[County Council Budget Work Session ]
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UM, WE JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT OUR AUDIO PORTION OF THIS SESSION IS BEING LIVE STREAMED AND, UM, ARCHIVES ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY COUNCILMAN WAGNER WILL NOT BE WITH US THIS MORNING.
UH, FOR SOME OTHER REASONS, COUNCILMAN SRODES IS ON HIS WAY, UH, SHOULD BE HERE SHORTLY.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE MR. WOODS IS THAT.
SO, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
UH, HOW'S PRESIDENT SANDY AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JOE SEAMAC ON DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR OUR COUNTY.
PUBLIC WORKS IS THE LARGEST DEPARTMENT WITHIN PARKER COUNTY.
GOVERNMENT COUNTY CHARTER HAS CHARGED DPW WITH THE DESIGN CONSTRUCTION OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT WHOLE PROJECT COUNTY ROADS, BRIDGES AND DRAINAGE STRUCTURES, SEWAGE COLLECTION, TREATMENT FACILITIES, WATER SUPPLY, TREATMENT, AND DISTRIBUTION, SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS AND FACILITIES.
AND IN RECENT YEARS, THE MS FOR STORM WATER PERMIT PROGRAM AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE INSPECTIONS HAVE INCLUDED IN OUR INITIAL, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL GUIDANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO ALL OF PUBLIC WORKS AND TO PROVIDE A MORE EFFICIENT COST-EFFECTIVE DEPARTMENT WILL UNDERSTAND AND MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS AND OUR COUNTY WHILE MAINTAINING A WORK ENVIRONMENT BASED ON COMMON SENSE AND ACCOUNTABILITY BY LEVERAGING MY 38 YEARS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR ENGINEERING PROFESSION, BEFORE JOINING THE COUNTY, I'VE APPLIED A BUSINESS OPERATION PERSPECTIVE TO DPW, IMPROVING PROCESSES, PROCEDURES, EFFICIENCY, AND SUSTAINABILITY IN OUR LARGE AND VERY TECHNICALLY DIVERSE ORGANIZATION.
YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR DEPUTY DIRECTORS, YOU'LL MCKEAN AND STEVE WALSH WITH DETAILS OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL OPERATING DIVISIONS.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE BUDGET.
IT'S ON PAGE 4 58, THE OPERATING BOOK I GIVE A SECOND TO GET THERE.
I'M READY WHENEVER YOU ARE KIM.
UM, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE BUDGET OF 31,641.
AGAIN, AS YOU SAW YESTERDAY, MOST OF THAT IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES.
IT IS FOR THE MERIT INCREASE IN THE COLA OF 27,000 3 99, THE 27TH PAY 10,007 16.
AND THEN THERE IS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN HEALTH BENEFITS OF 2008 31.
UM, THERE WERE NO CHANGES IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, SUPPLIES, OR BUSINESS AND TRAVEL FOR THAT DIVISION.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE.
UM, WELL, JOE, UH, AS ALWAYS, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING AVAILABLE FOR ME.
IF I HAVE A QUESTION OR A CONCERN YOU'RE ALWAYS AFFECT ALL OF, YOU'RE ALWAYS THERE TO ANSWER THE PHONE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
DID YOU SAY 38 YEARS PRIOR TO YES, SIR.
UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, IN REFERENCE TO, UM, HIGHWAYS AND PROJECTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT NOW OR DO WE WANT TO WAIT AND GET INTO THOSE? I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU HAVE SPECIFICS ABOUT HIGHWAYS AND THEIR PROJECTS.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY'RE ON NEXT SO THEY COULD RUN THROUGH THE
UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN BILL? YES.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHILL AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD WAIT.
THE DEPARTMENT LET'S SEE IS PAUL LAUDER LAUDER LAUDERDALE.
NOW HE'S UNDER INSPECTIONS, LICENSE INSPECTIONS.
I'LL WAIT, WHENEVER HE COMES OUT.
THESE ARE THE POTHOLE FOLKS CURTIS, THE POTHOLES.
I WANT THE HOUSES TO BE DEMOLISHED, SO THAT WOULD BE FALL.
I DO, UM, I KNOW DURING OUR LAST DISCUSSION, YOU SAID THAT, UH, AS FAR AS, UM, CHAPEL ROAD, UM, THAT'S NOT IN THE SCHEDULE ANYWHERE TO BE, UH, WE PAVED OR ANYTHING.
I THINK FOR YOUR LAST EMAIL THAT I GOT FROM YOU, THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, THAT ONE STRETCH OF CHAPEL ROAD, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE BORDER BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF POVERTY.
WE HAVE THE LAYMAN'S RESPONSIBILITY, THEY HAVE THE OWNERSHIP OF IT.
UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM FROM
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OUR INSPECTION STANDPOINT.IT'S NOT REQUIRED YET FOR, UH, UH, FOR, UH, RESURFACING, UH, HOWEVER, THE CITY, SINCE THEY OWN IT AS A DISCRETION TO DO THAT, ANYTIME THEY LIKE, AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH STEVE AND HIS FOLKS HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM WITTY, UH, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE WOULD DO ENTERTAIN A COST SHARING.
UH, LIKE WE NORMALLY WOULD DO ONE TYPE OF THING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW STEVE, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY MORE INFORMATION THAT THEY WILL TAKE THE LEAD, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A SURFACING PROJECT LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE'LL PROVIDE ASSISTANCE.
SO I NEED TO TALK TO TIM LIQUIDY DOWN IN HAVRE DE GRACE AGAIN, RIGHT NOW I'VE BEEN JUST GETTING SOME COMPLAINTS.
IT'S KIND OF GETTING THERE THOUGH.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE DIVISIONS OF HIGHWAYS, OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS ON THEIR OPERATING, AND THEN WE'LL GO ONTO THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO YOU'RE OF HIGHWAYS ENGINEERING.
WARNING AGAINST EACH STEVE WALSH.
HAVE YOU DIRECTOR FOR HIGHWAY SUSTAINABILITY, UM, HIGHWAYS DIVISION BECAUSE THERE'S THE TWO BUREAUS, YOUR HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE AND THE BUREAU OF HIGHWAY ENGINEERING.
UM, YOU'RE A HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE.
THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MANAGEMENT OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF 1079 MILES OF COUNTY ROADS AT TWO THIRDS OF WHICH ARE, UH, ASPHALT, A THIRD OF WHICH ARE FOREIGN SHIT.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE 42 MILES OR THROWS OUT THERE.
UM, 225 COUNTY BRIDGES, 3,376 CULVERTS, 280 MILES OF STORM DRAIN, UH, 31,000 SIGNS, 5,000, 361 STREETLIGHTS AND RIGHT AWAY MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WHERE WE ACTUALLY PERMIT, UH, UTILITIES AND ACCESS TO OUR ROADS, UM, AND ROADSIDE TREE MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS STORM SNOW REMOVAL AND STORM CLEANUP.
AND YOU THINK ABOUT THE THOUSAND MILES FROM COUNTY ROAD, YOU DRIVE THEM TO YOUR MIAMI BEACH.
THAT'S IN MANY WAYS WE HAVEN'T IN HARTFORD COUNTY.
SO ALL THE BUDGETS THAT WE REQUEST THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SUPPORT MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT, THOSE ASSETS.
UM, YOU'RE A HIGHWAY ENGINEERING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INVESTIGATION, PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND THE DESIGN OF COUNTY ROADWAY, TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY BRIDGE, AND DRAINS IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
UM, AS WELL AS BONDING AND THE PERMITTING OF PRIVATE LAND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, WHICH BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TURNER, OKAY.
YOURS HIGHWAYS ENGINEERING HAS AN INCREASE OF 3 37, 1 45.
AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES AT A COST OF 3 26, 3 50, 70,000 TO 40 AS AN INCREASE.
UM, IT SAYS JUST SUMMER ENGINEERING INTERNS, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS, UM, FOR THEIR TEMPORARY SALARIES.
UM, THE MERIT INCREASE OF ONE 70, $170,300 27TH PAY 72, 3 42 HEALTH BENEFITS WERE ADJUSTED FOR AN INCREASE OF 39, 7 94.
AND THEN WE HAVE OPEB AND PEP OPEB IS 56, 1 51 AND AN INCREASE IN PEP OF 9,003 30.
THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN OVERTIME OF $5,000.
THERE'S INCREASE THERE OF 22, 6 IT'S A NET INCREASE OF 32,000 ADDED TO OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
THIS IS TO, UM, HIRE SOME CONTRACTUAL ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS ALSO, UM, OFFICE EQUIPMENT, UH, DECREASED 95, 90 $500.
AND THAT'S BASED ON NATIONALS AS WELL AS UNDER SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS.
THERE'S A DECREASE THERE 12,105, AND THAT WAS FOR A ONE-TIME PERSON PURCHASE LAST YEAR.
UM, FOR SOME COMPUTER HARDWARE, SLIGHT INCREASE OF $2,000 FOR TRAINING AND SEMINARS.
AND THEN AGAIN, CAPITAL OUTLAY DECREASED 1,700 BASED ON THEIR NEEDS.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 4 97, THIS IS THE BUREAU OF HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE 3004 96, 9 90 TO 2 MILLION, 2 69, 8 93 IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES.
THREE 70 TO $372,090 IS FOR THE 27TH PAY.
THERE WERE SOME SALARY ADJUSTMENTS DURING FISCAL YEAR 22 FOR COST OF 4 35, 6 19 MA THE MERIT INCREASE OF 3%
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AND THE 7% COLA FOR ALL ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES IS 1020 $8, ONE THOUSAND ONE THOUSAND TWENTY ONE MILLION TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND 1 63.A PENSION AND RETIREMENT WAS ADJUSTED FOR 44,983.
AGAIN, HEALTH BENEFITS INCREASED 1 29, 360 3 OPEB.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD IT IN THE BUDGETS OF 2 86, 8 66, AND THEN PEP AT 79, 2 20 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES INCREASES $880,000.
UM, THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF THIS INCREASES DUE TO A NEW, ADDITIONAL, UM, TREE TRIMMING CREW, AS WELL AS SAMOAN CONTRACTS.
WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL COST IN THERE FOR A PIPE REPAIR AND BUILDING AND CUSTODIAL AT 179 OFFSET BY CURB REPAIR, WHICH WE HAVE MOVED TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR A DECREASE IN THE OPERATING BUDGET OF 250,000 SUPPLIES.
AND MATERIALS INCREASES 143,500, 145,000 IS FOR BY TWO MINUTES, CONCRETE TRAFFIC SIGNS, PAINT PIPES, AND SO FORTH.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON EXPENSE HISTORY AND THE, UH, VERIZON INCREASE IN MATERIALS, BUSINESS AND TRAVEL INCREASES 28,600.
THIS IS MAINLY FOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND THEN PRO-RATA, UM, WHICH IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST FOR, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND OF ONE.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 5 0 1, THIS WOULD BE SNOW REMOVAL ACCOUNT.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 2 21, 800.
AND THE BULK OF THAT IS FOR SAND AND SALT.
AGAIN, DUE TO THE INCREASED ALSO THE MATERIALS AS WELL AS 18,000 FOR EQUIPMENT REPAIR PARTS.
AND THAT'S BASED ON EXPENSES AND SLIGHT INCREASE FOR TRAINING AT $3,500.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OPERATING, UH, COUNSEL, MR. JAMES DAN.
HOW ARE YOU? UM, SO MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS I WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND I NOTICED SOMETHING IN SOME OF THE OTHER STATES THAT I THOUGHT, EXCUSE ME, THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
UM, I HAD SERGEANT EATON, UM, IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM FLASHING STOP SIGNS.
SO I, UM, BASICALLY VALE ROAD AT RED PUMP PROSPECT, MILA THOMAS RUN ROSS ROAD AT MEADOW ROAD PERRY AVENUE.
AT ONE POINT BEING, HE SAYS, EACH OF THESE INTERSECTIONS CONTINUED FOUR STOP SIGNS.
THAT WOULD MEAN 16 SIGNS OR VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGH THE COUNTY.
SO PILOT PROGRAM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE? AND HOW CAN WE GET THAT IMPLEMENTED? I, UH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING FOR SAFETY IN THIS COUNTY AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL ABOUT SAFETY.
UM, REALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PUT IN THIS BUDGET.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF LOOKING AT THOSE RIGHT NOW, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T CURRENTLY USE THOSE, UM, THAT WE NEED TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THINGS LIKE THAT STUFF I'M GOING TO FORWARD YOU OVER SERGEANT EATON'S INFORMATION.
UM, I THINK WE GOT YOUR REQUEST.
THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE, SO OUR GUYS ARE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW.
HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU HAD ANY FEEDBACK IN ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS OUTSIDE OF MAYBE? I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN MARYLAND IS USING THEM.
I SAW THESE PARTICULARLY IN NORTH CAROLINA, WE HAD NOT YET.
AND THEY WERE ALL SOLAR POWERED.
SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
AND ESPECIALLY IF SOME, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT HE IDENTIFIED.
SO I APPRECIATE IT, BUT THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THAT AROUND HERE.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MR. JOHNSON.
I WANT TO GENTLEMEN, UH, UM, BRINING THE ROADS VERSUS HARD SALTING THE ROADS.
WHAT'S THE COST SAVINGS OF THAT? SO USE OF BRINE, UM, USES ABOUT A THIRD LESS, I'M SORRY, A FIFTH OF THE AMOUNT OF SALT, AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING UP STRAIGHT ROPS ON THE ROAD.
I'M NOT SURE WE EVER BROKE OUT A COST OF, UH, THE YEARLY SAVINGS, UM, PAUSE.
BUT CERTAINLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT GETS US, GIVES US A HEADSTART ON STORMS. UM, THERE ISN'T PROSTATE EXISTS, WOULD THAT REDUCE SALT USAGE? BUT THE BIGGEST BENEFIT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT.
UM, SALT IN THE, IN THE WATERWAYS IS NOT,
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NOT, NOT A GOOD THING.SO ANY, ANY, ANY WAY WE CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF SALT WE USE IS, IS A GOOD THING.
UM, ALSO WITH OUR NEW IN THIS WORK PERMIT, THERE'S SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THAT PERMIT TO HOW ABOUT THE SPORT WAYS TO PRODUCE SALT, USE YOURSELF? UM, YEAH.
DO YOU FIND THAT THAT'S, UM, MORE EFFECTIVE THAN ACTUAL THE HARD SALT? UH, NOT MORE EFFECTIVE, IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL FOR US.
UM, THE STORMS COMING IN, SWEAT OR RAIN UP FRONT AND YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT'LL JUST WASH THE BRIAN OFF.
SO IT HAS TO BE ON A CERTAIN KIND OF STORM, BUT CERTAINLY WE FOUND IT EFFECTIVE
WE CAN DO THAT FOR 48 HOURS BEFORE THE ACTUAL SNOW HITS, UM, AND JUST IT'S OPERATION.
AND THE FINAL QUESTION, UH, WITH THE BRINE, UM, THE EQUIPMENT WHAT'S THE, THE MAINTENANCE FACTOR OF, OF THAT EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO SPREAD THAT BRIAN ON THE ROAD.
UH, SO OUR EQUIPMENT'S ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, ANY MAINTENANCE ISSUES YET WITH IT.
YOU CERTAINLY NEED TO CLEAN IT AFTER STORMS BECAUSE IT IS CORROSIVE CERTAINLY, UM, APPROACH TO DO A GOOD JOB OF THAT.
SO, UH, NO, NO PARTICULAR MAINTENANCE CONCERNS WITH THAT EQUIPMENT YET STILL EARLY IN THE STAGES OF, OF USING IT.
IF I COULD ADD THE, THE APPLICATIONS UNITS ARE ACTUALLY SELF-CONTAINED AND MANUFACTURED SPECIFICALLY TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT BRINE SOLUTION.
THEY SLIDE INTO THE BACK OF OUR EXISTING DUMP TRUCKS.
SO THE, THE HOUSING AND THE CONTAINERS AND THE SPREADERS ARE ALL FABRICATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.
SO THEY'RE ABLE TO BE TAKEN OUT WHEN WE'RE USING THE DUMP COSTS FOR, UH, FOR OTHER, UH, OTHER ACTIVITIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE LIFESPAN OF, OF THOSE APPLICATORS.
DO YOU KNOW, OR HAZEL PLASTIC TANKS, PLASTIC LINE.
UM, IT KIND OF TRIGGERED A LOT OF THOUGHTS THERE.
UM, ACTUALLY I HAD SOME SCOUTS IN WITH ME AND THEY ASKED ABOUT THE SALT AND I MENTIONED, I THOUGHT REAL QUICK TO THINK OF THE BRINE.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A MUCH MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
I THINK I GOT PRETTY CLOSE TO THE RATIO THERE.
UM, HOW MANY DID WE HAVE? I REMEMBER EARLY ON, WE DIDN'T HAVE, UM, UH, SO MANY OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY EXIST.
SO HAVE WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AMP THAT UP, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRUCKS THAT CAN BE OUTFITTED 4 44 UNITS WITH BRIAN SPREADERS.
WE'D HAVE THE MAIN TANKS THAT ARE GOOD RELOCATION AND WE HAVE A MOBILE UNIT WHICH ACTUALLY CREATES THE BRYANT KIND OF HANGING AROUND.
SO WE'RE ALSO DOING THIS WITH YOU, PUT THE PURCHASES THERE'S, UH, SOME OF THE TRUCKS ARE OUTFITTED WITH TANKS TO ACTUALLY PRE-WET THE SALT.
UM, SO WE REALLY LIKED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT OPERATION AND BASICALLY TRIGGERS THE SALT IN THE SALT FOR FAMILY ACTIVATES, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR PUTTING SALT DOWN, WAITING FOR THE SNOW, TO HIT IT, WAITING FOR THAT TIME, AND THEN ACTIVATE, UH, THIS PRE-WEDDING SYSTEM WE'VE FOUND TO BE REALLY EFFECTIVE IN OUR FLIPS REALLY LATE LIKE THAT.
AND FUTURE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES WILL INCLUDE THOSE, THOSE PRE-WEDDING TAGS.
UM, AND ALSO THE JOBS CAN, UH, THE SALTS ARE MORE EFFECTIVE.
I LOVE TEMPERATURE FROM 17 DEGREES, RIGHT AROUND 1780.
SALT'S NOT AFFECTED HAVE THAT WHEN WE FREQUENT THE SALT, WE CAN GET IT DOWN TO LIKE ZERO THREE THREES AND CAUGHT HER NAME ALL SOLID, 300 TIMES BURNING MOUTH AND ANOTHER TOOL TO TRY TO REDUCE THE SALT.
AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T, AND I KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET IN THE CAPITOL, BUT WHEN SALT, UM, YOU KNOW, NO ASSAULT FACILITY IS, UH, I GUESS, GOING TO BE HAPPENING PRETTY SOON UP IN THE NORTH HILL AREA.
I KNOW IT'S KINDA, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROVERSY EVERYBODY'S WORRIED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW IT USED TO BE.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE STORED SALT OUT IN PILES.
OF COURSE, THIS IS CONTAINED WITHIN A FACILITY AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS THERE.
IS THAT GOING TO BE TANKS THERE FOR THE, FOR THE LIQUID SALT, FOR THE BRINE, OR YOU JUST KIND OF PRE-MIX IT WITH THAT ONE THING, BUT THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR SOFT FACILITIES, I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M ALSO COMING FROM.
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STILL GOING TO BE, YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE SALT AND EVERYTHING BEEN UNDERCOVER AT THE NEW FACILITY AND IT WILL BE LOADED INSIDE, INSIDE THE MILITARY.IT'S GOING TO BE VERY PRETTY AND AESTHETICALLY LOOKING LIKE A BARN, THAT'S YOUR PROJECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LATEST DESIGN THERE.
SO, UM, THEY ALSO BROUGHT A, ANOTHER QUESTION.
TONY ALSO TRIGGERED A QUESTION WITH THE STOP SIGN AND THAT MADE ME THINK OF THE, UH, THE SPEED LIMIT, UM, SIGNS THAT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WE HAVE, UH, COME THROUGH TRAFFIC IN AREAS.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF THESE, BUT THE NEAT THING IS THAT IT DOES PROVIDE THE STATISTICS.
NOT ONLY DOES IT ALERT PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN, YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE MIGHT BE CHILDREN PLAYING, BUT IT, IT KEEPS TRACK OF EVERYTHING.
AND I KNOW THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A MOBILE UNIT, BUT IT'S A BIG CLUMSY KIND OF THING.
AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET AHOLD OF.
UM, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO EXPAND THAT OTHER, UH, UH, PROGRAM WHERE IT KIND OF TIES ON TO A SPEED LIMIT SIGN? SO WE, WE DO HAVE THOSE, THOSE MOBILE UNITS THAN WE DO, UH, DEPLOY THEM.
AND I TRIED TO GET AHOLD OF IT.
I CAN'T AND WHAT IT DOES, LIKE YOU SAID, IT INFORMS DRIVERS OF THEIR SPEED AND WE GATHER THE DATA AND WORK WITH SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON WHETHER THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL PERSON THAT NEEDS TO GO ON TARGETED DAYS AND TIMES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, CERTAINLY CAN LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING A LOT WITH LESS WITH THE HIGHWAY USER TAXES.
I MEAN, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME AND EVERYBODY HAD, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF EXCITED.
WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FROM THE STATE, WE'RE GETTING 3.3 MILLION.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS CLOSER TO 15 AND I JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT THE OTHER WEEK WHEN WE HAD THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM MAACO HERE.
SO IT'S AMAZING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STRETCH THOSE FUNDS OUT AND TO, UH, KEEP UP THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT I AM STARTING TO GET THE CALLS WHERE, UH, CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLIGATORS, THEY'RE GETTING MORE BROKEN UP AND I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH A HUGE, A LOT LESS MONEY.
SO YOU GOT TO SPACE IT OUT WHERE BEFORE YOU COULD DO IT MORE RAPIDLY.
NOW YOU GOT TO, INSTEAD OF A WHATEVER CYCLE YOU MIGHT HAVE NOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUSHING IT MORE.
SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE WITH THE FUNDS, BUT I THINK THAT IN CERTAIN CASES, WE'RE, W WE'RE LOSING THAT ROAD BASE.
WE'RE WERE, YOU CAN ONLY DO WHAT YOU CAN DO.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB, BUT IT REALLY DOES TAKE MONEY.
AND, UM, HOPEFULLY TO STAY KIND OF COMES AROUND.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S REALLY KIND OF BEYOND OUR CONTROL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JUST PUSHING IT AND LOBBYING, WHICH WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO.
UM, AND WHAT WE DO TO HELP US DEAL WITH THAT IS WE INSPECT ALL OF OUR ONCE A YEAR FOR PAVEMENT CONDITION AND DO AN ANALYSIS OF EACH CAUSE THAT'LL SERVE AS THE BASIS FOR PRIORITIES OF WHATEVER AMOUNT OF FUNDS THERE ARE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE FUNDS FOR PROJECTS, FOR RESURFACING, THAT THEY'RE GOING WHERE THE DOCUMENTED NEED IS.
AND NOT NECESSARILY THE ONES ON THE SQUEAKY WHEELS, SQUEAKY WHEELS, THAT WE FEEL IT USED TO BE DEALT WITH THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT IS NICE THAT WE DO HAVE A REAL, A REAL PROCESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UP TO INTERPRETATION LIKE YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR SCORING VERSUS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN NEIGHBORHOODS SCORING IS, IS DIFFERENT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO YOUR GUYS AND KENNY AND YOUR TEAM.
I'M GOING TO DEAL WITH YOU GUYS AN AWFUL LOT, UM, DOING AN AMAZING JOB.
AND I WILL SAY, ESPECIALLY ON THE QUICK FIX STUFF, YOU GUYS ARE THERE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, MOVING IN AN INTERSECTION OR FILLING A POTHOLE OR A STORM, GREAT THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NOT WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THESE OLDER, EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, I HAVE HAD, AND THEN YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN THESE REQUESTS FROM ME EVEN RECENTLY, WHERE YOU HAVE THE SHEETING OF THE WATER FROM THE STORM GOING DOWN, AND IT GOES INTO A STORM DRAIN AND THEN LIKE 35 FEET AWAY.
OR SO THEN IT OUTLETS INTO AN EASEMENT THAT'S ONE, A PLAT, BUT THEN IT'S NOT MAINTAINED.
AND I, I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THAT.
I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR TO
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A LANDOWNER WHEN THEY'RE NOW DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT WATER, ALL THOSE GALLONS AND GALLONS OF WATER THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET.AND THEN IT, OF COURSE THE WATER, IT GOES TO THE GOES DOWNHILL.
AND THEN ONCE IT GETS A CERTAIN DISTANCE AT OUTLETS, AND THEN IT'S JUST LIKE, UM, UH, EROSION, YOU GOT TREES TURNING OVER, YOU GOT, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
I REALLY THINK THAT WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB WITH THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING ALL THAT ON AND WITH NO RECOURSE, NO WAY TO FIX IT.
UM, SOME OF THESE CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THESE PROBLEMS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND, AND YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE A GOALIE IT'S ESSENTIALLY ALMOST BECOMES A FLASHY CREEK WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE A STORM, IT, IT RUSHES THROUGH THERE AND IT ERODES, AND IT CREATES ALL THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WITH EROSION.
AND I, I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT UNTIL IT GETS TO THE CREEK USUALLY, OR THE STREAM OR THE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF OFF OF THEIR LAWN.
LIKE, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
AND SO IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THOSE, I KNOW I SAY ONE, TWO, YOU ALL RECENTLY OVER ON, OFF OF DELANEY ROAD IN JARRETTSVILLE, AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT WE CAN TACKLE THAT CONSTITUENT ISSUE.
NO, THERE'S OTHER SITUATIONS TOO.
YOU HIT THE BACK OF MY HEEL AND WOULD FREAK OUT.
YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CAPITOL SCARF.
UM, I LIVE IN AN HOA NEIGHBORHOOD, FAIR COUNTY, THE ROAD, THE PARKING SPACES, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S A RELATIVELY DENSE, UM, SO I AM WELL AWARE OF THE DRY FOR SPEED HUMPS AND ACCEPTED BECAUSE OF THE LARGE AMOUNT OF CHILDREN.
AND I KNOW THE RULES, YOU KNOW, FACING HOMEOWNERS FACING THE ROAD.
THERE'S A BROTHER THAT DOES HAVE SPEED BUMPS, UM, HOUSES OPEN INTO THE ROAD OF THEIR FRONT DOOR.
AND OUR PUT, HOWEVER I RECENTLY WAS ON
AND I WAS WONDERING IF IN SOME OF THE MORE POPULATED ROADS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A TEST TO SEE IF THESE STRIPS, UM, I'M SURE THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR AS EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN OR FLY AS, AS FOAMS REPEATED, BUT IT MIGHT BE PSYCHOLOGICALLY A GOOD MOOD TO HAVE PEOPLE SLOW DOWN.
AND THE AMOUNT OF TALKING, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND CONSTANT FRIENDSHIP, MOM, AND PEDOS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE ARE DEATHS POPULATIONS WITH A LOT OF, THANK YOU.
HOLD ON, MS. JOHN YESTERDAY, DPW DIDN'T HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF MY COMMENT HERE, BUT I WAS ON CAPITAL OUTLAY, UH, WITHIN SOME BUDGETS.
AND ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS THAT I'VE MADE IS CAPITAL OUTLAY DOES NOT REALLY APPEAR IN A LOT OF BUDGETS.
HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE IS ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS.
YOU HAVE BEEN BUDGETING ABOUT $13,000 A YEAR ON PRETTY CONSISTENTLY THIS YEAR.
UH, THE BUDGET OFFICE HAS REDUCED THAT TO $9,000.
YET WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURES THAT ARE OCCUR, UH, IN THE YEARS PRIOR TO YOUR BUDGET, THIS IS ONE OF THE PRIME CASES WHERE THEY SPEND ABOUT $60,000 IN CAPITAL OUTLAY EACH YEAR.
UH, SO YOU GET THIS DISCONNECT OF USE, YOU'RE REDUCING AN EXPENDITURE, BUT THE EXPENDITURE IS ACTUALLY SEEDING.
WHAT'S BEEN BUDGETED IN THE END RESULT.
AND IT JUST, IN MY MIND CREATES CONFUSION.
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DOESN'T GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY REVIEW OF WHAT THOSE EXPENDITURES ARE.COULD YOU DESCRIBE BRIEFLY WHAT THOSE $60,000 ON THE AVERAGE EXPENDITURES AND CAPITAL OUTLAY WITH BEFORE IT'S? IS IT THE SMALL TOOLS? IS IT PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, A SMALL PIECES OF EQUIPMENT? WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE WE DEALING WITH IN THESE EXPENDITURE? BARRY WILSON.
MR. SCOTT, PARDON? I SAY, BEAR WITH ME A SECOND.
WHAT I WOULD PREFER THAT WE DO, AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND I'D RATHER, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO DIG INTO THE SPECIFICS, TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER THAT WE COULD GET BACK TO YOU WITH.
AND THE, YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF WHERE I WAS AT YESTERDAY WITH MY COMMENT ON CAPITAL OUT, LIKE WITH YOUR BUDGETS DO BUDGET FOR SOME CAPITAL OUTLAY, BUT YET WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN REDUCED, BUT YET YOU EXPEND MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAD BEEN BUDGETING.
IT JUST CREATES QUESTIONS TOMORROW.
UH, LOOK BACK ON YOUR CIVIL REMOVAL OF RATIOS.
HAVE YOU EVER SUPPLEMENT WITH PRIVATE CONTRACTS OR IS IT FAIRLY THE ONLY TIME THAT WE HAVE HAD TO SUPPLEMENT WITH PRIVATE CONTRACTORS WAS, AND I HATE BRINGING IT UP 2016 WHEN SOMEBODY AGAIN CAME THROUGH A AND R SESSION WAS NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT.
AND WE DID HAVE TO BRING IN SOME HEAVY DUTY CONTRACTOR OR EQUIPMENT TO DO SO, BUT FOR THE REGULAR STOVE USE THE DEDICATED EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COVER ALL GROWTH IN THE ACCOUNT, SIR.
UM, BACK TO HIGHWAY SAFETY, UM, LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE THOROUGHLY FOR MYSELF AND FOR THE, FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE AREA.
UM, HOW DOES THE INTERACTION BETWEEN COUNTY HIGHWAYS AND STATE HIGHWAYS WORK AS FAR AS INTERSECTION UPGRADES? WHEN YOU HAVE A STATE HIGHWAY AND A CANNY ROAD AT A UNCONTROLLED, ALMOST UNCONTROLLED AT A STOP SIGN CONTROLLED INTERSECTION, SPECIFICALLY, I'M REFERRING TO THE INTERSECTION OF US ONE BEL AIR ROAD AND RECORD ROAD, BUT GENERALLY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ALSO, UM, THE CITIZENS IMMEDIATELY, WHEN WE HAVE ACTS MULTIPLE ACCENTS AT A GIVEN LOCATION, THEY JUMP ON THE SEVEN MEMBER PANEL IN FRONT OF ME.
THEY WONDER WHY THE COUNTY COUNCIL CAN'T FIX THIS HIGHWAY SITUATION.
THIS IS ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEAR THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITIES.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CANNY HIGHWAYS CAN DO SPECIFICALLY FOR THE RECORD ROAD, ROUTE ONE INTERSECTION TO HELP WITH SOME ENGINEERING MATTERS TO HELP CHANGE THE BEHAVIORS OF DRIVERS, PRIMARILY THE INTERSECTION, THE INTERSECTION LIGHTS.
AND SO WE HAVE, THERE ARE FOLKS TRYING TO CROSS FROM ONE SIDE OF BELAIR ROAD TO THE OTHER WHILE ON RECORD ROAD, UM, OR MAKING LEFT TURNS OUT OF RECORD ROAD.
UH, IS THERE ANY WAY TO DEVELOP A RIGHT TURN ONLY, UM, INSTRUMENT THERE AS YOU ENTER A BELLY OR ROAD FROM RECORD ROAD OR ANY OTHER TRAFFIC ENGINEERING PROCESSES THAT YOU COULD PUT INTO PLACE THAT YOU COULD THINK OF? OR CAN YOU DO A STUDY TO DETERMINE THAT? SO IN A BROAD SENSE, UH, THE STATE HIGHWAYS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ROADS, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY LARGER ROADS.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNTY ROADS, AND WE DO HAVE A, A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH STATE HIGHWAY, BOTH WHEN AND MAINTENANCE SIDE AND THE ENGINEERING SIDE, UH, WHEN THERE ARE, ARE, ARE PATIENTS IDENTIFIED HIGH ASSET LOCATIONS OR WHATEVER, UM, THEY'RE ENGINEERING FOLKS AND OUR ENGINEERING FOLKS WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO COME UP WITH YOUR JOINT PROJECT OR THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ON THE COUNTY SIDE, WHICH CAN HELP THE SITUATION OR, UM, THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR THEMSELVES, BECAUSE REALLY THE, THE ISSUES DRIVEN BY THE, THE LARGER STATE ROAD RECORD ROAD ONE, RIGHT NOW, YOU MENTIONED THE HIGHWAY IS LOOKING INTO A PROJECT THERE, UM, EARLY STAGES, UH, EARLY DISCUSSIONS WITH, WITH GLEN HEVEL.
AND SO I DIDN'T EXPLAIN THAT OUR CHIEF HIGHWAY ENGINEER, UM, TALKING ABOUT THAT VERY LOCATION, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ABSENCE IN THAT LOCATION.
SO THE REAL ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT EVERY ISSUE INVOLVING A STATE HIGHWAY WITH US.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IF THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO ON OUR SIDE, UM, BUT THEN IT PASSED, BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT REALLY IS THE, UH, THE WHOLE INTERSECTION, UH, ITSELF.
AND THEN SOMETIMES WE COST SHARE WITH THOSE
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THAT THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE ON THE COUNTY PORTION, AS WELL AS THE STATE.UM, SO REALLY IT'S LOOKED AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE INTO CAPITAL, MR. JOHNSON? UM, GENTLEMEN, SO, UH, HOW, HOW IS THE DEPARTMENT ON, UM, ON YOUR RETENTION OF YOUR LABOR FORCE, UM, ARE YOU HAVING A PROBLEM WITH KEEPING YOUR LABOR FORCE OR DO YOU HAVE SHORTAGES ANYWHERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE HAVE THE SAME DIFFICULTY THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY BUSINESS OR WHEN AN ORGANIZATION HAS IN THE COUNTRY.
UH, WE DO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TURNOVER.
WE'VE GOT REALLY GREAT EMPLOYEES THAT, UM, UH, THAT WE MINIMIZE THAT I THINK, UM, AND WE ALSO ARE LOSING SOME OF OUR MORE SENIOR FOLKS ON THE TERM RETIREMENT, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BACKFILL THAT.
SO I THINK THAT WE ARE, UH, BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL, NOT ONLY IN HIGHWAYS, BUT IN THE OTHER DIVISIONS OF DPW AND SORT OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE BACKUP FOLKS IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND.
AND THEN IT'S, IT'S NOT QUITE A REVOLVING DOOR, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE JUST HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET GOOD PEOPLE AND RETAIN THOSE GOOD PEOPLE.
I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S A PROBLEM ACROSS NOT JUST THE COUNTY, BUT ACROSS THE NATION.
AND I JUST WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS THE COUNTY GROWS THAT YOUR OPERATION WILL ALSO GROW AND IT'S PUTTING A STRAIN ON YOUR OPERATION, AND I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE COUNTY CAN HELP YOU ALL RETAIN GOOD PEOPLE AND BUILD THAT AND BUILD THAT NETWORK OF GOOD WORKERS.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR ANSWER.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
UM, THEY'LL START CAPITAL ON PAGE 2 68.
IT'S UNDER THE BRIDGES TAB TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE BOOK WITH BARNA PUBLIC WORKS, HIGHWAY ENGINEERING DIVISION, THE HIGHWAY CAPITAL PROJECT, WHICH, BUT IT'S ROADWAYS, BRIDGES AND RESURFACING.
I'LL GO OVER A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE PROJECTS HIGHLIGHTING THE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE STARTING WITH THE BRIDGES ABINGTON ROAD BRIDGE 1 69.
THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT FOR THE EXISTING THREE SPAN BRIDGE.
WE ARE PROPOSING A 215 FOOT LONG SINGLE SPAN BRIDGE.
THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN WITH CONSTRUCTION TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR 2024.
IT IS A FEDERAL AID BRIDGE PROJECT.
SO, UH, WE WOULD GET 80% OF THE COST FOR CONSTRUCTION FROM FEDERAL FUNDS VIA PROPOSING THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
OUR FIRST INSTALLMENT CAME IN 2000 AND FISCAL YEAR 22 IN FISCAL YEAR 23.
WE ARE REQUESTING A TOTAL OF 2.5 MILLION, AND WE WOULD ASK FOR ANOTHER PORTION TO FINALIZE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING, AND
THIS IS AN ONGOING CAPITAL PROGRAM TO REPAIR AND REHABILITATE EXISTING BRIDGES AND CULVERTS ON COUNTY MAINTAINED ROADS.
WE USE OUR HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE FORCES, A BRIDGE MAINTENANCE CREW TO MAKE THE REPAIRS, OR WE OUTSOURCE IT TO CONTRACTORS FOR LARGER REPAIRS.
CURRENTLY WE ARE REPLACING THE DECK ON RIVER ROAD BRIDGE WITH OUR HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE CREWS, AND WE ANTICIPATE TWO RIDGE REPAIRS REPLACING THE BRIDGE SUPERSTRUCTURES ON TROYER ROAD AND LINKOUS ROAD USING FUNDS IN THIS PROGRAM OR FISCAL YEAR 23, WE ARE REQUESTING $1.2 MILLION RIDGE AND ROAD SCOUR REPAIRS.
THIS IS AN ONGOING CAPITAL PROGRAM TO USE TO REPAIR STREAM AND BANK MINTS, ADJACENT TO COUNTY ROADS AND FOR, TO REPAIR UNDERMINING OF COUNTY BRIDGES, BRIDGE ABUTMENT PEERS THAT IS CAUSED BY THE CUMULATIVE
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DAMAGE FROM SMALLER STORMS AND SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE FROM MAJOR STORM EVENTS.IN FISCAL YEAR 23, WE WERE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF 250,000 FOR THIS PROGRAM BRIDGE INSPECTION UNDER 20 FEET, WE HAVE A BRIDGE INSPECTION PROGRAM IT'S BROKEN INTO TWO CATEGORIES.
FEDERAL AID BRIDGE INSPECTION IS FOR OVER 20 FEET AND FUNDED AND EVEN CAPITAL BUDGET YEARS.
UH, THE BRIDGE INSPECTION UNDER 20 FEET IS COUNTY FUNDED AND FUNDED IN OD CAPITAL PROJECT YEARS BRIDGE INSPECTIONS HELPS THE ENGINEERING STAFF IDENTIFY PROBLEM AREAS ON COUNTY BRIDGE STRUCTURES AND PRIORITIZE BRIDGE REPAIRS AND REHABIL AND REPLACEMENTS.
WE'RE REQUESTING A TOTAL OF 300,000 FOR THIS BRIDGE INSPECTION PROGRAM IN FY 23.
I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT TWO BRIDGES TOGETHER.
THE GLEN COVE ROAD BRIDGE 1 55 AND THE STAFFORD ROAD BRIDGE 24.
THESE TWO PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION, BUT DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED ALONG WITH LAND ACQUISITION, PERMITTING AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS DUE TO INCREASING COSTS RELATED TO INFLATION SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND FUEL INCREASES.
WE ARE CRESTING ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDING FOR Y 23.
THE GLEN COVE ROAD BRIDGE 1 55 IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
THIS SUMMER, WE ARE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL $250,000 FOR CONSTRUCTION FOR THE STAFFORD ROAD BRIDGE OVER 24, WHICH IS OVER DEER CREEK AND SUSKO HANNAH'S STATE PARK.
THE CONSTRUCTION IS ALSO SCHEDULED FOR THIS SUMMER WITH THE BRIDGE TO BE CLOSED AFTER LABOR DAY.
AND WITH OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE SUSKO HANNA STATE PARK TO BE OPEN BY MEMORIAL DAY 2023, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE ARE REQUESTING $350,000.
THIS IS A FEDERAL AID PROJECT.
SO 80% OF THOSE FUNDS WILL BE FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE ARE FOR FURTHER PROPOSING NEW DESIGN FUNDING FOR TWO NEW BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECTS ON AIRS CHAPEL ROAD AND STAFFORD ROAD, AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE DESIGN LAND ACQUISITION AND OR CONSTRUCTION OR UTILITY RELOCATIONS FOR SIX CURRENT CAPITAL BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.
MOVING ON TO ROADS, I'LL START WITH THE WOODLEY ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT CONSISTS OF EXTENDING WOODLEY ROAD, APPROXIMATE DISTANCE OF 1200 FEET FROM ITS CURRENT TERMINUS, WHICH IS ABOUT 2.3 MILES NORTHEAST OF CHELSEA ROAD ACROSS TO ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND PROPERTY AND CONNECTING TO MARYLAND ROUTE SEVEN 15.
THIS IS TO PROVIDE AN ALTERNATE ACCESS INTO THE PAIRING OF PENINSULA.
WE ARE REQUESTING FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 5 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION IN FY 23, FUNDED THROUGH COUNTY FUNDS THROUGH FUTURE BONDS.
WE ARE REQUESTING CONTINUED FUNDING FOR SEVERAL OF OUR HIGHWAY CAPITAL PROGRAMS, INCLUDING DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, GUARDRAIL, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, STORM DRAIN, REHABILITATION, TRAFFIC CALMING, BICYCLE, AND ROAD SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
WE HAVE TWO NEW CAPITAL PROGRAMS WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS YEAR, UH, CURB SIDEWALK AND HANDICAP RAMPS.
THIS IS REALLY JUST COMBINING TWO EXISTING PROGRAMS. AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE CURB REPLACEMENT PROGRAM WAS FUNDED THROUGH HIGHWAY OPERATING BUDGET.
PREVIOUSLY, WE ARE GOING TO COMBINE THIS WITH OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM FOR SIDEWALK AND HANDICAP RAMPS.
UH, THIS WILL GIVE US MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE DESIGN AND BUDGETING OF THESE PROJECTS.
THE WILL, UH, ALLOW US TO REPLACE HER AND GUTTER AND HANDICAP RAMPS THAT HAVE BEEN DETERIORATED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND ALLOW US TO CONSTRUCT NEW SIDEWALKS OR NEW CONNECTIONS TO SCHOOLS, COMMUNITIES, COMMERCIAL AREAS.
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AND F Y 23 FOR THIS PROGRAM.WE ALSO HAVE A NEW CAPITAL ACCOUNT FOR STREET LIGHTS.
THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY FUNDED THROUGH OUR HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE OPERATING BUDGET.
THE NEW CAPITAL PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE US CAPABILITY OF UPGRADING THE STREETLIGHTS TO LA E FIXTURES.
WE ARE REQUESTING $50,000 IN FYI 23 FOR THIS PROGRAM, RESURFACING THAT'S TOUCHED ON, UH, WE HAVE 692 MILES OF ROADS IN HARPER COUNTY WITH AN ASPHALT SURFACE.
WE CONTINUE TO PROPOSE INCREASED FUNDING LEVELS TO BRING THIS CONDITION UP TO AN ACCEPTABLE CONDITION.
WE ARE REQUESTING A TOTAL OF $8 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 23 AND LAST LAND GOING TO TOUCH BASE ON THE NORTHVILLE HIGHWAY FACILITY BRIEFLY, WE ARE REQUESTING A TOTAL 2.7 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTHVILLE HIGHWAY FACILITY, WHICH CONSISTS OF ASSAULT THEM AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY AT THE PROPOSED WE'RE STILL RECREATION CENTER.
UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR OUR FIRST OF ALL.
LET ME THANK YOU FOR THE WOODLEY ROAD UPDATE.
I WAS GOING TO ASK HOW THAT PROCESS WAS MOVING FORWARD.
I KNOW I GET A REPORT FROM MR. BONIFACE ABOUT EVERY MONTH, I GUESS, BUT IN YOUR MIND, IS THAT PROCESS ACTIVELY MOVING FORWARD AS FROM THE COUNTY'S POINT OF VIEW? IT IS, UM, WE ARE, WE'VE ENGAGED OUR, OUR CONSULTANT WHO HAS ONE BOARD AS PART OF THEIR TEAM, UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE GOLF COURSE RENOVATION BECAUSE THERE ISN'T THAT, UH, UH, FORCE PROTECTION AND BLAST PROTECTION TECHNOLOGIES.
AND SO ONE, UH, SO WE HAD MADE, I BELIEVE IT WAS A 30%, UH, SUBMITTAL TO APG FOR THEIR REVIEW.
SO IT IS A, IT'S A REGULAR BACK AND FORTH AT THE PACE THAT SNAIL PACE WELL AT THE, AT THE PACE THAT THEY MOVED AND WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, DO OUR PORTION AND OUR DEDICATION AND OUR UTILIZATION OF OUR TECHNICAL ASPECTS, WHERE I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND THEN DID I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DOWNGRADED THE AMOUNT OF PROTECTION BLAST PROTECTION THEY NEEDED? DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY? WELL, IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE PUN INTENDED, REALLY MOVING TARGET BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND WE RESPECT THAT AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDING AS MUCH AS THEY WILL REQUIRE.
AND SO WE'RE KIND OF VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR TECHNICAL SPECIALISTS, WITH OUR TACTICAL SECTORS TO GET TO THAT, THAT UNDERSTANDING.
AND MR. HUBBLE, JUST FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU, AGAIN, STATE HOW LONG THAT ROAD IS? 1200 FEET, 1200 FEET.
UM, AND THEN, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, WAGNER ASKED ME TO MENTION EDWARDS LANE.
UM, HE SAYS THAT IT GOT PUSHED OUT TO 2027.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THAT CAN'T BE TAKEN CARE OF ALL THE CALLS OF DAVE MENTIONED THE CALLS THAT WE GET ON DIFFERENT ROAD ISSUES? I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY WE'VE RECEIVED FOR EVERS LANE AND SHUCKS ROAD WITH FLOODING.
IS THERE NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO SOONER THAN THAT? IT HAS THE EDWARD LANE PROJECT HAS BEEN IN FISCAL YEAR 27, THE PAST TWO YEARS, BUT THAT IS THE PRIORITY THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED TO IT.
UM, WE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME, AS SOON AS YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED ABOUT A THOUSAND MILES OF COUNTY ROAD, SOME OF THOSE PARTICULARLY THE RURAL ROADS WERE BUILT WITH THEIR DRAINAGE CULVERTS THAT MEET NO STANDARD WHATSOEVER.
THEY WERE APPROPRIATE FOR WHATEVER TRAFFIC WAS ON THAT AND EDWARD LANE.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS PRIORITIZE THOSE THAT HAVE EITHER LIFE SAFETY OR ROAD RISK ISSUES IN ORDER TO PUT THEM ON THE, UH, I GUESS ON THE HIGHER PRIORITY.
UM, ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA THAT WE USE FOR DETERMINING PRIORITY IS, IS THERE ONE WAY IN ONE WAY OUT, AND THOSE GO TO THE TOP OF THE LIST EDWARDS LANE, WHERE THAT CULVERT CROSSING IS, IS ACTUALLY SORT OF CENTRAL TO TWO WAYS OUT GOING OUT TO THE 22 TO THE, UH, I GUESS TO THE NORTH AND FOR THE LAST HILL OR COMING THE OTHER WAY, UH, OUT TO CHEF'S ROAD.
SO THAT ONE HAS THE, UH, HAS THAT ADVANTAGE, I'LL CALL IT THAT IT DOESN'T, UH, IT DOESN'T MOVE IT TO THAT HIGH PRIORITY.
UH, ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED AS PART OF THAT EVALUATION OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME SCALLOP, UH, OF THE DRAINAGE CORES, AS IT MAKES A LITTLE TERM
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BEFORE THAT.UH, AND WE DID PROVIDE OUR HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE FOLKS.
NOW, PART OF THAT, THE CHALLAH PROGRAM THAT GLENN MENTIONED IN ORDER TO REINFORCE THAT FACT.
SO I SAW THE NEW STONE AND STUFF IN PLACE THERE.
SO, UM, SOME OF THE ARGUMENT THAT WE'RE HEARING IS, UH, SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF
UM, IT'S DESIGN OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, WHICH ARE DESIGNED OR INTENDED TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE FLOWS, DO NO HIGHER THAN EXISTING, UH, WERE DESIGNED AND WERE CONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL OF THE STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, UH, AND THE SAME THING FOR ANY OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE ALONG SHOCKS ROADS.
SO I, I KNOW THAT THEY THEY'VE MET ALL THAT CRITERIA.
I ALSO CAN SAY THAT SINCE ABOUT 20 17, 20 17 OR 2018, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT SHORT DURATION, LARGE QUANTITY RAINFALL THERE.
WHY, HOW DID THAT FOR A DIFFERENT GROUP OR A DIFFERENT DAY? UH, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE, UH, UH, THE, THE PERCEPTION OR THE OBSERVATION THAT, OH, IT SEEMS TO BE SO MUCH HIGHER.
UM, HOWEVER, WHETHER I, WHETHER THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE, TO THE PARK OR NOT, WHICH AT LEAST HAS, THIS HAS THE FACILITIES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF STORM.
IF THE FORM THAT COMES THROUGH IS IN EXCESS OF THAT, WHATEVER THAT CRITERIA IS.
WELL THEN UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S PART OF MOTHER NATURE GETTING EVIL WITH ALL, UH, BUT, UH, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR OBSERVATION, AT LEAST IN HOW THAT HAS BEEN AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.
AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE VIDEOS.
I MEAN, THEY'RE PRETTY DISTURBING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS RAIN EVENTS.
UM, I'M SURE YOU'LL HEAR FROM COUNCILMAN WAGNER, UH, AT SOME POINT, UM, ANYONE ELSE, MR. WOODS, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE LED REPLACEMENT PROGRAM AND PUTTING THE LIGHTING IN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, WE CALLED THE LIGHTS, THE ONES THAT ARE TRYING OR PURPLE OR WHATEVER COLOR IT IS.
UM, YES, WE WERE WORKING WITH BG AND A, UH, APPARENTLY THEY HAD A AND MATCH YOUR VOICE.
THE THING I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, SO NOT JUST THE STREET LIGHTS, THE STREET LIGHTS, OR AFTER ABOUT A YEAR, THEY TURNED THE PURPLE, SOLID WAS BAD IN IT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS MARINES NEW ORLEANS AS OFFENSE.
AND THEN, EXCUSE ME, JUST A SECOND.
AND AS I GO THROUGH HERE, IS, IS THERE A PIECE IN HERE FOR EDWARDS LANE THAT I DIDN'T SEE AS WE LOOK AT OUT HERE GOING 24 TO 28? YES.
UM, GENTLEMEN, I USE THIS, UH, REALLY, BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY IN HERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING IN, UM, THE RESURFACING.
SO, UH, HOW MANY TYPES OF RESURFACING, UM, OPTIONS DO YOU HAVE DON'T HAVE? RIGHT.
WELL, I
WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROAD SURFACES IN THE, UM, AND I'LL WORK FROM THE ROUGHEST.
MOST OF THIS DECATUR, WE HAVE THE BIRTH RATES, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY GRAVEL, AND THEN WHEN YOU HANG UP AND THEN WE DO OUR BEST TO KEEP THEM IN THE CONDITION OF THE CAMP, THEN THERE IS HARD ROAD, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE NORTH OF THE COUNTY, UH, AND THE REPAIR, UH, WILL RENOVATION OF THOSE ROADS BECAUSE THEY'RE STRUCTURALLY, UM, NOT INTENDED TO LAST A VERY LONG TIME, UH, ON A CYCLES ABOUT EVERY FLEET, UH, EXCUSE ME, EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, OUR HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE FORCES WILL PUT A NEW LAYER OF, OF HOT TAR OR MICRO, BETTER WORD AND ANOTHER LAYER OF, OF CHIPS OR STONES AND THEN ROLL IT.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY BASICALLY REED REFINISHING, THE SURFACE THAT'S, UH, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH
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OUR FOLKS IN HOUSE SECURITY.THE NEXT STEP UP IS ASPHALT ROADS.
AND THAT'S THE PRIMARILY THE ROADS THAT YOU SEE HERE IN, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO THE, I GUESS, THE PROJECTS THAT WERE BUILT AS PART OF DEVELOPMENTS, UH, OR, UH, THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE STATE ROAD.
AND THEN THERE ARE WITHIN THAT.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES OF RESURFACING, MIDDLE THE ROADS.
NOW, ALL THE THIRD TO MY TECHNICAL EXPERT TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT PRODUCTS AND PROCESSES THAT WE USE.
UH, THE TRADITIONAL WOULD BE AN ASPHALT OVERLAY, UH, MAYBE COMBINED WITH PATCHING THE ROADWAY CRACK, FILL IT, PRACTICING THE ROADWAY OR MILLING THE ROADWAY, REMOVING A COUPLE INCHES OF ASPHALT ACROSS THE ENTIRE ROADWAY, AND THEN RESURFACING WITH AN ASPHALT OVERLAY.
AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER METHODS THAT WE USE A COLD IN PLACE.
RECYCLING PROCESS IS ANOTHER PROCESS WE'VE USED.
WE DID THAT RECENTLY ON CHELSEA ROAD DOWN IN PAIRING THEM IN THAT'S WHERE YOU GRIND UP THE EXISTING ROAD, MAYBE FIVE, SIX INCHES, UH, TO TRY TO GET MORE OF THE DISTRESSES OUT OF IT.
YOU INJECT A HOT, UH, ASS LIQUID ASPHALT INTO THE PROCESS AS YOU PUT IT BACK DOWN, AND IT GOES DOWN AS LIKE AN ASPHALT BASE.
AND THEN WE WOULD RESURFACE THAT WITH A TWO INCH THREE INCH OVERLAY.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROCESS PROCESSES, A ASPHALT OVERLAYS, TYPICALLY GOING INTO LAST YEAR, 15 TO 20 YEARS, A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TREATMENT MIGHT LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
SO WE HAVE SOME MICRO SURFACE SEEING AND SLURRY SEAL APPLICATIONS THAT WE CAN PUT DOWN FOR A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE TREATMENT.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE THINNER LIFT OVERLAYS, UH, MAYBE ABOUT AN INCH THAT WE CAN DO AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE OUR TYPICAL PRODUCTS AND PROCESSES, RIGHT, MAN, I, I SHOULD NOT HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ASK, PARTICULARLY FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX AND AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO KEEP OUR ROADS IN THE BEST CONDITION WE POSSIBLY CAN WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN SOME OF THOSE PARTICULAR, UH, ALTERNATIVES, UH, ARE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN OTHERS.
THEY'RE MORE, WANTED MORE EXPENSIVE THAN OTHERS.
UH, SO WE DO OUR BEST TO, UH, TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
AND, UM, SOMETIMES THOSE DECISIONS ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH EXPECTATIONS, UM, FOR FOLKS THAT DRIVE ON KNOW ROADS AND THEY'VE WANTED TO BE A CERTAIN WAY, WHICH I RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND I LIVE HERE IN THE COUNTY AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO COME UP WITH THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND, AND MOST APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENT OR EACH ONE OF THE ROADS IN THE COUNTY.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT A SHORT DRIVE DOWN IN JOPPA TOWN.
I'M GETTING MY LUNCH HANDED TO ME.
UH, SO, UH, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A PROJECT THAT I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT SHORT DRIVE IS CURRENTLY ON OUR RESURFACING LIST, SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
UH, GLEN ALSO, YOU TALKED ABOUT STAFFORD GROUP RIDGE OVER DEER CREEK.
HOW OLD WAS THAT BRIDGE? IT SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER THAT BEING EITHER RESURFACED OR REPLACED BEFORE.
IT WAS BUILT IN THE 1950S, SO, OKAY.
SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER SOME WORKS ON YESTERDAY, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.
IS IT KATZMAN GILL? THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT WHEN I WAS GOING TO STAY OUT OF PARAMIN, BUT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, UM, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
I, UH, TO, FOR ALL YOU DO, I KNOW YOU GUYS DO AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE, BUT, UM, LIKE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I'M GETTING MINE LUNCH HANDED TO ME ON ALL THE PROJECTS, CHELSEA ROAD.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT YOU DID THE RECYCLING.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHICH ROADS GET WHICH PROCESS? AND THE REASON I SAY THAT BECAUSE, UH, YOU JUST RECENTLY DID CHELSEA ROAD, RIGHT? IT'S NOT HOLDING UP WELL, IT'S ALREADY, I MEAN, SO I'M WONDERING, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, A METHOD THAT YOU SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, YOU DO THIS ROAD THIS WAY, OR, YOU KNOW, USE THIS METHOD OR, UH, SURE.
UM, FOR CHELSEA ROAD WAS AN OLDER, OLDER ROAD.
WE DID SOME ROAD CORINGS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BASE MATERIAL
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WE HAD.SO WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER INSTEAD OF JUST MILLING OFF THE TOP TWO INCHES AND PUTTING TWO INCHES OF ASPHALT BACK DOWN.
ALSO WITH IT BEING IN AN OPEN SECTION ROAD AND LIMITED UTILITIES, THE COLT IN PLACE RECYCLE PROCESS WORKS WELL THROUGH THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADJUST UTILITIES OR TIE INTO CURB AND GUTTER.
SO ABLE TO GO DOWN DEEPER, GET US A MORE SOLID BASE AND THEN PUT IT ON TWO INCH OVERLAY ON IT.
DO, BECAUSE HAVE YOU BEEN OUT THERE SINCE YOU DID THIS? BECAUSE IT'S TO ME ALREADY AND I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL CONSTITUENTS, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY CONCERN FROM MY STAFF IN REGARDS TO THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD, BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT IF YOU COULD PLEASE, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE, IT'S JUST HOW IT IS.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CALL ME BACK.
UM, AND I HAVE, UH, I DON'T LIKE TO ASSUME ANYTHING.
UM, I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE VEHICLE HEIGHT MONITORING SYSTEMS. AND, UM, I THINK IT WAS SENATE BILL 6 42 JUST PASSED WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE.
AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BRING SOME FOR SOME LEGISLATION TO GET THOSE, UH, DEVICES, UH, PUT OUT ON, UM, OLD STEPHANIE MITCHELL AND POSITIO ROAD TO KEEP THE 18 WHEELER CRAFTED.
AND I GUESS THE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF, UM, WHAT THOSE WOULD COST, BECAUSE I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND GET FUNDS APPROPRIATED TO PUT THOSE DEVICES IN.
I DO NOT, WE HAVE NOT STARTED TO DO ANY RESEARCH ON THAT, AS YOU SAID, THAT BILL AND SEVERAL VERSIONS OF IT WERE UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE LEGISLATURE.
UH, AND, UH, I DON'T RECALL WHAT THE FINAL DECISION WAS.
SO, UH, UH, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN PART OF WHAT WE'LL PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT, UM, TYPICALLY ENFORCEMENT OF, UH, VEHICLES AND OVER-HYPED AND SO ON IS TYPICALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL COORDINATE WITH, UH, WITH THEM AS NECESSARY DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC.
LIKE I SAID, 6 42, A SB 6 42 DID HAS A, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, SPELLED OUT REAL SIMPLE THERE IN THE BILL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM THERE.
UM, AND IF YOU COULD JUST SKIP BACK WITH ME BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, LOBBY FOR THAT, MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
AND I SEE, UM, THE SUSHI ROAD, I GUESS, ALL THE FUNDING IS THERE AND, UH, THE BUDGET FOR THAT TO START AS FAR AS THE UPGRADES ON POSITIO ROAD.
UM, WHAT DO YOU SEE A TIMELINE OF WHEN YOU PLAN ON STARTING THAT PROJECT? WE'RE STILL PROCEEDING WITH THE FINAL DESIGN.
WE ANTICIPATE BEGINNING LAND ACQUISITION AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER FEEL OF WHEN CONSTRUCTION, IF WE CAN BEGIN AS WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES TO IT.
UM, AND WHAT'S THE TYPICAL LENGTH OF THAT UPGRADE? UH, I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
AND I THINK I REMEMBER, UM, MR. BONIFACE TELLING ME THAT THE PROJECT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
THAT'S PROBABLY ACCURATE 18 MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, 18 MONTHS.
I WOULDN'T GO TOO DEEP INTO DEPARTMENT, BUT SO THANK YOU, MR. BEAL, MR. JAMES JORDANA.
DO WE HAVE ANY CONCRETE HIGH GROSS? I THINK WE HAVE ONE CONCRETE ROAD IN THE COUNTY.
IS THAT 14 YEARS AT ANY PORTION OF ROUTE 40.
NOW WE DON'T MAINTAIN ROUTE 40 THAT BE THE MARYLAND STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE CAPITAL PROJECT ON PAGE 3 34, UH, UNDER RESURFACING.
UM, THE PROJECT APPEARS TO BE REMOVING $10 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDING AND DOING AWAY WITH THE RESURFACING PROJECT ENTIRELY.
SO ORIGINALLY WHEN WE RECEIVED A WORD THAT WE WERE OUT OF THE VIDEO MARKET FUNDS, UM, WE WERE HEARING A LOT THAT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
IT TURNS OUT THAT, UM, THE CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT SPECIFICALLY OUT OF, UM, ROADS, UM, THEIR IDEA
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OF INFRASTRUCTURE WAS, UM, STORM WATER OR WATER OR THINGS LIKE THAT.UM, SO ONCE WE, UM, OF COURSE WE BUDGETED THAT BEFORE WE GOT, UH, WORDED THE DIRECTIONS AS THIS IS AN INELIGIBLE USE.
UM, WE NEEDED TO TAKE THE FUNDS OFF OF THAT, THAT PROJECT, AND THEN REAPPROPRIATE THEM TO OTHERS.
WHEREAS WE DO RUN INTO, UM, THE ISSUES WITH, BECAUSE HIGHWAYS IS ITS OWN SEPARATE FUND.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITED HIGHWAY USER REVENUE.
AND THE OTHER THAN THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH IS THE, UM, UH, THE PROPERTY TAX THAT IS DEDICATED TOWARDS.
SO THERE'S BEEN TALK THAT, UH, CONGRESS MIGHT ALLOW INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ROADS.
IT'S COME CLOSE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS AND IT GETS DERAILED ABOUT LIKE THE LAST ONE, THEY CAME VERY CLOSE AND THEN REINTEGRATION KIND OF FELL APART.
AND IF I COULD ADD, YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT $10 MILLION THAT WAS ADDED ON THE ANTICIPATION OF HAVING GRANT FUNDS FROM THE PROGRAM LAST YEAR, SEQUEL MOVE, AS GLEN MENTIONED, THERE IS STILL A NEW $8 MILLION BEING ASKED FOR REQUESTED FROM THE COUNCIL FOR ROAD RESURFACING.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A VERY ROBUST, OR AS MUCH AS WE CAN AFFORD A RESA RESURFACING PROGRAM, REGARDLESS OF THAT HOPED FOR, BUT NOT RECEIVED, UH, FEDERAL FUNDS.
WHAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ORBIT FUNDS THAT WE HAD ON THAT PROJECT TOTAL THAT 49 AND ALL ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES? UM, NOT NECESSARILY.
UM, THE ARPA FUNDS ARE MUCH MORE RESTRICTED THAN WHAT THE CARES FUNDS WHERE, UM, I, I THINK FROM A MATTER OF POLICY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS DO A LOT OF ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES.
UH, BUT THERE ARE SOME PLACES WHERE, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT USING SOME ARTFUL FUNDS FOR, UM, SOME INITIAL FUNDING AND THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME ONE TIME.
THE BIGGEST ONE IS, IS ONE OF THE BROADBAND WHERE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING THOSE, THOSE SPOTS.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, I ALSO VISITED, UH, EDWARDS LANE AND IT DOES SEEM TO BE A BIG PROBLEM.
THERE'S MULTIPLE, I THINK, POSSIBLE FACTORS GOING ON WHAT'S UP UPSTREAM.
UM, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE BIG THING IS THAT YOU HAVE THE CONCRETE TUBES THAT GO UNDER THE ROAD THERE.
I BELIEVE MAYBE AT THE SET OF TWO OR THREE, IF I CAN REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU HAD A OPEN SECTION, LIKE A CONCRETE BOX BRIDGE, LIKE IT WOULD JUST GO THROUGH, I MEAN, ANYTIME YOU HAVE THOSE, LIKE THE AREAS IN BETWEEN, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE STICKS AND THE BRANCHES AND YOU GET A LOT OF DAMNING THAT OCCURS.
UM, I ALSO KINDA THINK, UM, CHRISTINE BUCKLEY'S, UH, WATER RESOURCES, UH, SIDE COULD LOOK AT, UM, WHAT'S, UH, UM, BEYOND THE STREAM AS YOU GO DOWN PATHS, UM, IT DOES KIND OF SEEM LIKE, UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER MAYBE ISSUES THERE WHERE IT'S KIND OF FLOODING MORE THAN IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES THERE.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THAT.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT PROBLEM, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT I WAS JUST WANTING TO MENTION.
I WAS OUT THERE CONSTITUENT CALL AND I WENT RIGHT OUT.
UM, WHEN ANOTHER NOTE I NOTICED THE REAR NURSERY ROAD BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE COMING UP.
AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, I REALIZED THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BOULEVARD BRIDGE, IT GOES PAST UP EXPANDED DEER CREEK.
UM, BUT THE TIMING YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK WITH, UH, STATE HIGHWAYS, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING SECTION G THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK, UM, WITH THAT.
SO THE ROAD MAY BE CLOSED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TWO BRIDGES CLOSED AT THE SAME TIME.
I KNOW THAT THE STATE HIGHWAYS GOING TO D TWO TORE YOU AROUND 1 65, BUT REALISTICALLY WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE HER IN HER FREE ROAD.
THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FASTEST SHORTEST WAY.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE BOTH CLOSED AT THE SAME TIME THAT WOULD, UH, UH, SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET A CALL.
I'LL PROBABLY EVEN GET A CALL, EVEN THOUGH I WON'T BE HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
UM, BUT, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT YOU KNEW ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU KUDOS.
IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE CONVERSION THAT HARDSHIP AND HAS BEEN WORKING, I WAS WORRIED, UM, IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT IT WOULD INCREASE SPEED AND I'D GET ALL THOSE CALLS.
SO I KNOW THAT IT'S A LOT EASIER WHEN YOU WERE ON YOUR TEAMS TO MAINTAIN TAR AND CHIP VERSUS EARTH.
AND, UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THERE ARE TWO SPOTS THAT I'VE NOTICED, UM, WHEN EATON MILL NEAR THE PARK, UM, GOING UP TO THE BRIDGE, THAT BIG BRANCH, UM, IT WAS KIND OF POTHOLE ON THE ONE SIDE AWAY FROM THAT AWAY FROM THAT LITTLE PARKING AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE.
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USE SOME, A LITTLE BIT OF A DAY'S WORTH OF RESURFACING, NOT, NOT EVEN A BIG PROJECT.UM, HARTFORD CREAMERY ROAD WAS ALSO DONE TOWARDS IVORY MILLS, AND I KNOW IT STOPS SUPPOSED TO STOP AT THAT BRIDGE, BUT I THINK IT STOPS A LITTLE SHORT OF THE LARGE BRIDGE.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO THE LITTLE BRIDGE AND THE DYSPHORIC AREA I'M SAYING AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE HILL, KENNY, UM, IT KINDA, IT'S KINDA ROUGH THERE.
I GUESS IT FEELS LIKE THAT THE ASPHALT SHOULD GO UP RIGHT TO THE BRIDGE.
AND IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH RATE IN ADVANCE OVER THERE FROM WHAT I REMEMBER.
SO JUST, JUST FORGOT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I, WE COMMUNICATE ALL THE TIME THROUGH JANE AND EVERYTHING.
THANK YOU, MR. SHREWD, CYNTHIA, THANK YOU, PRESIDENT.
UM, I'M THE BENEFIT OF, OF NEW ROAD RESURFACING ACTUALLY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE THIS PAST YEAR.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.
I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT, BUT THERE'S A PROJECT THAT SEEMS TO HAVE DROPPED OFF THE RADAR, WHICH IS THE ROUNDABOUT AT TOLLGATE AND AIR SOUTH PARKWAY.
THERE WAS MANY YEARS TALK OF TRYING TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY.
LAST YEAR, WE TALKED ABOUT ACQUIRING IT BY EDELMAN DOMAIN.
WHERE ARE WE WITH BELLAIRE SOUTH PARKWAY, THE ROUNDABOUT OF TOLL GATE.
UH, WE ARE STILL PURSUING THAT PROJECT WITH THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS.
IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES ON, IN THE DIGITAL PROJECTS, BUT YES, WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT COMMUNITY TO ACQUIRE THE LAND NECESSARY TO BUILD THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND HOW LONG WILL WE CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE UNTIL WE TAKE THE PROPERTY 20 YEARS? HOW ABOUT THOSE? O'S CYNTHIA.
WHERE ARE WE GOING NEXT? ANYONE ELSE PLEASE? KIM, WHERE YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT? OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO, UM, THE DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY AND THEY START ON PAGE 4 64.
SO, UM, SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS, YOU THINK ABOUT WATER AND SEWER.
SO ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY, SORT OF THE REST OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, FIVE DISTINCT BUSINESS UNITS.
YOU'RE A SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, UH, HANDLES ALL THINGS RELATED TO DISPOSAL OF COUNTY SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLABLE MATERIAL.
UM, AND, AND MANAGEMENT OF THE COUNTIES MES CONTRACT FROM THE OPERATIONS AT THE LANDFILL BUREAU.
UH, AND JEFF SCHOENBERGER IS HERE TO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT.
UM, CAPITAL PROJECTS MANAGEMENT MANAGES THE PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF COUNTY CAPITAL FACILITY AND BUILDING PROJECTS, UH, FOR VARIOUS COUNTY AGENCIES.
UH, WE ACKNOWLEDGED BARKLEY CHIMP, UH, CREIGHTON FOR A RECENT RECENTLY PROMOTED.
UH, HOW DID THAT WORK UNIT YOUR AS A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COUNTY'S DAM SAFETY PROGRAM AND THE DELEGATED REVIEW OF STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PLANS AND, UM, SENATE RODENT CONTROL, UH, FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND FOR THE ONGOING INSPECTION OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, BUREAU OF WATERSHED MANAGEMENT, MS. BUCKLEY BEEN HEADED THAT GROUP FOR A LONG TIME AND OVERSIGHT OF THE MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM, MS. FOUR PERMIT WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UH, AND THAT'S THE, UH, THE PERMIT THAT REQUIRES US TO DO PROJECTS, TO TREAT IMPERVIOUS AREA OF THE COUNTY.
AND THEN FINALLY THE, UH, EURO OF CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION THAT MICHAEL WAS IN THE AUDIENCE BACK THERE REPRESENTING THAT GROUP PROVIDES FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FOR COUNTY ROADS AND BRIDGES, STORM DRAIN, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY, STREAM RESTORATION, WATER, AND SEWER LINES IN ANY DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS BUILT AND WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE COUNTY.
SO ALL THOSE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS UNITS, MAKE-UP ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY,
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OKAY, THEY'RE GOING TO START ON PAGE 4 64.THIS WOULD BE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UH, THE BULK OF THAT IS, UM, TWO POSITIONS WERE, UM, TWO VACANT POSITIONS WERE TRANSFERRED FROM PARKS AND RECREATION INTO THIS DIVISION, UM, AT A COST OF 2 12, 703, AND ENGINEERING ASSOCIATE AND A CIVIL ENGINEER.
UM, DID THE, I BELIEVE THEY MAINLY WORK ON PARKS AND REC PROJECTS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO FALL UNDER DPW CAPITAL PROJECTS.
NOW TEMPORARY SALARIES INCREASES 54, 9 17.
UH, THE MERIT INCREASE AND THE COLA IS 63, 8 57.
THE 27TH PAY 25, 9 60 HEALTH BENEFITS INCREASE 39, 6 86 OPEB.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE BUDGETED IT'S INCREASES 19 5 99, AND THEN PEP INCREASES 8,470.
THERE WAS NO CHANGE IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, UM, BUT THERE'S SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PROVIDE FOR TELEPHONE SERVICE, ET CETERA, UNDER SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 1,001 THOUSAND $50, UM, FOR GENERAL OFFICE SUPPLIES, UNIFORM PURCHASES, AND SO ON.
AND THIS WAS ALL BASED ON ACTUALS.
THIS IS THE PRO-RATA FORMULA, UM, INCREASE 1070 $3 ON PAGE 4 67 IS CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS.
THERE ARE 4 11, 8 83, 2 71, NOT 1 92 IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES OF WHICH 1 34 99 34 IS FOR THE MERIT AND COLA.
THE 27TH PAY IS 61,502 HEALTH BENEFITS INCREASES $21,016.
AND THEN OPEB INCREASES 52, 7 18 MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ARE ADJUSTED FOR, UM, SO THAT WE CAN USE OUTSIDE CONTRACTUAL, UM, FOLKS FOR INSPECTION SERVICES.
THAT'S AN INCREASE OF $133,000 ON PAGE 4 71.
THIS IS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 7 85, 3 18 80 9,005.
12 IS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES OF WHICH 59, 8 12 IS FOR THE MERIT NICOLA.
THE 27TH PAY IS 22, 8 18, AND THEN OPEB INCREASE, UH, INCREASES THIS BUDGET FOR 24, 1 60 CONTRACTUAL SERVICES INCREASED AT $695,000.
AND THIS IS BASED ON ANTICIPATED ADDITIONAL, UM, SERVICES FOR CONSULTANT INSPECTIONS AS WELL AS PLAN REVIEWS UNDER MISCELLANEOUS.
THERE'S AN, UH, IT'S SLIGHT INCREASE THERE OF $2,734 ON PAGE 4 75 IS WATERSHED MANAGEMENT.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE 360 9, 7 89, 1 57, 4 16 IS PERSONAL SERVICES OF WHICH 40,000 8 84 IS FOR TEMPORARY, UM, SALARIES FOR ADDITIONAL SUMMER INTERNS TO ASSIST WITH THE MS FOR COMPLIANCE MERIT AND COLA OF 42 40 2007 75, THE 27TH PAY AT A COST OF 19 TO 51.
AND THEN OPEB OF 16, 8 97, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES INCREASES $39,028.
AND THE BULK OF THAT IS FOR, UM, MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DUE TO PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS BASED ON ACTUALS OF 39, 1 90 FOR SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS SLIGHT INCREASE THERE 2040 $7.
AND THIS IS FOR DRAFTING AND LAB SUPPLIES, AS WELL AS AUDIO VISUAL SUPPLIES, BUSINESS AND TRAVEL INCREASES $7,700.
THIS IS FOR MEMBERSHIP FEES AND TRAINING, UM, DUTY AND ANTICIPATED DUES, AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER CONFERENCES RELATED TO WATERSHED MANAGEMENT AND UNDER MISCELLANEOUS, THERE'S AN INCREASE THEIR $50,000.
THIS IS PAYMENTS TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL AS PRO-RATA SHARES INCREASES ONE 13,598 FOR THE SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE ADMINISTRATIVE GENERAL FUND.
UM, ON PAGE 4 79 IS SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENGINEERING AND THE 25,000 6 58 INCREASES ALL IN PERSONAL SERVICES FOR THE MERIT INCREASE, THE 27TH PAY, AND THEN OPEB, YOU TURN TO PAGE PAGE
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4 82.THIS IS THE TRANSFER STATION CONTRACT, AND THAT $2,230,000.
THIS IS, UM, THE PAYMENT TO BALTIMORE COUNTY FOR THE TRANSFER STATION AGREEMENT ON PAGE 4 84 IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, THE SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT, UM, CONTRACT, UM, INCREASES THE CONTRACTS WILL SERVICES INCREASES, UH, 7,009, EXCUSE ME, $8,014 OF WHICH THE BULK OF IT IS FOR THE MES CONTRACT BUSINESS AND TRAVEL INCREASES ONE 50 TO 2 73.
THIS IS FOR THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE OF THE VEHICLES UP AT THE LANDFILL, AS WELL AS FUEL CHARGES.
AND THEN CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASES FOR 12 800.
THIS IS, UM, THE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO PURCHASE FOR THE LANDFILL TO INCLUDE TWO TUBERS ARE TWO RUBBER TIRE LOADERS, A COMPACTOR AND A TANKER TRAILER.
AND THE LAST WOULD BE ON PAGE 4 85.
AND THIS IS THE POST CLOSURE ACCOUNT.
THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE OF 8,006, $8,762.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE OPERATING BUDGETS, UH, COUNSEL, MR. JAMES, OR DANNON.
SO IS THIS WHERE I GET TO ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, HOOKUPS FOR BUSINESSES WITH THE WATER AND SEWER AND THE PACKAGES, AND HE'D BUY A PACKAGE OF 30 AND THEN IF YOU NEED MORE, YOU GOT TO BUY ANOTHER 30.
I WANT TO ENSURE ALL THE TEAM WILL BE HERE MOMENTARILY.
I GOT TO TIGHTEN THESE CHAIN UP.
HE'S HURTING ANYONE ELSE, CYNTHIA.
SO ON OUR WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT WE'RE, UM, TRUCKING TO BALTIMORE COUNTY ARE THE INDEPENDENT TRASH COLLECTORS PAGE, THE COUNTY FOR THE ABILITY TO DUMP THEIR WASTE IN OUT OF BALTIMORE COUNTY TO THE BART.
FELDER'S THOUGH THERE ARE THREE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE THREE TRASH COLLECTORS.
WE HAVE TRASH EVERY DAY, THE WAY THE AGREEMENT WORKS THERE.
YES, THE HAULERS TO TAKE YOURSELF TO WALMART COUNTY, THEY PAY US $700.
IT'S PEOPLE TAKING THEIR TRASH TO BALTIMORE COUNTY FARMER COUNTY, THEN CHARGING DOS, AND WE PAY THEM SO DIVORCE.
SO OBVIOUSLY THIS PRICE HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE YEARS.
UM, AND DO WE HAVE A CONTRACT OUT SO THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO PAY INCREASED COSTS FOR THE YEAR IT'S POSSIBLE CONTINUING TO INCREASE? YEAH.
SO, AND AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A GUESS.
UM, SO WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED THE CONTRACT, WALMART COUNTY HAD HAD THEIR OWN AGREEMENT TO HAUL THE WASTE FROM EASTERN TO LANDFILLS IN VIRGINIA EVERY YEAR, UH, AN INCREASE IN CPI JUST EVERY MONTH BASED ON THE PRICE OF DIESEL FUEL.
AND OF COURSE, HOWEVER MANY TONS COME IN AFFECTS THE PRICE.
SO WHERE DO WE SHOW THE REVENUE FROM THE INDEPENDENT TRASH COLLECTORS? THE RABBIT REVENUE SHOWS UP IN THE, IN THE GENERAL FUND AS A REVENUE SOURCE, DOES IT OFFSET THIS COST? UH, NOT, NOT IN A TOTAL.
I MEAN, IT DOES FOR JUST THE TRANSFER, BUT IT DOES IT FOR THE COMPLETE RUNNING OF THE SOLID WASTE SYSTEM.
SO THAT WOULD JUST BE JUST A COMPONENT OF IT.
SO WHEN WE HAD SCARBOROUGH, CORRECT.
THAT'S WHERE THE TRASH COMPANIES, WELL, PARTIALLY, WHY CAN'T WE HAD SCARBOROUGH.
WE ALSO HAD THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT AND MAKE NEW ORLEANS.
AND THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE TRASH WHITE NATHAN THAT DIDN'T FIT IN THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT WAS THAT ALL SET EQUAL.
AND THAT WAS NEVER REGAL, NEVER EQUAL.
THE SOLID WASTE HAS OFFERED ENTERPRISE FUNDING IN A WAY THAT TRULY COVERS ITS OUT EXPENSES, RIGHT? IT GETS SOLID WASTE IS SUBSIDIZED BY THE, BY THE TAX PAYERS.
BARRY MAY WANT TO MAKE THAT AS ONE OF HIS POINTS WHEN HE SENDS OUT HIS MONTHLY THINGS.
UM, BOTH HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS BECAUSE THE, UH, THE CITIZENS WHO UTILIZE PRIVATE TRASH COMPANIES ARE NOT AWARE OF THAT.
THE COUNTY, YOUR COUNTY TAXES ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE TRASH COLLECTION.
ANYONE ELSE MR. SCOTT AND THUMBS? SORRY, CAN YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EIGHT, UH, THE 693,000 IN THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, THE INCREASE THERE FOR A CONSULTANT WORK? CAN YOU KIND OF ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE? WHAT KINDS OF THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING,
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TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? SURE.UM, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE HAVE A CORE STAFF OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS THAT ARE ACCOUNTING EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THE STROMA AND MANAGEMENT REVIEW, WHO ARE THE ONES THAT THROUGH THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION PLANS AND EVEN OUR OWN ROAD PLANS.
UM, THE VOLUME OF WATER THAT COMES IN IS HIGHLY VARIABLE DEPENDING ON THE ECONOMY, DEPENDING ON THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT PACE WITHIN THE COUNTY.
THE NUMBER OF SUBMITTALS CANNES THAT ARE COMING IN THAT HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH IS CHANGES FROM MONTH TO MONTH AND QUARTER TO QUARTER.
UM, AND WE FOUND THAT RATHER THAN TRYING TO STAFF FOR THE HIGHEST VOLUME TO HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO STAMP THE HIGHEST VOLUME WE MADE THE DECISION TO KEEP THE POOR BASED ON A CERTAIN VOLUME, AND THEN ESSENTIALLY USE THE CONSULTANTS AS WHAT I USED TO CALL PETE SHAVING AS THE WORK COMES IN, AND IT INCREASES BEYOND THE CAPABILITY OR THE, UH, THE, THE AVAILABILITY OF OUR FOLKS, WE'RE ABLE TO BRING CONSULTANTS ON IN ORDER TO BROADEN OUR STAFF.
AND THEN WE HAD THE FLEXIBILITY TO THEN SHRINK THE STAFF OR SHRINK, UH, RESOURCES, UH, TO CORRESPOND TO THE AMOUNT OF WORKLOAD.
SO WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR, UH, AN AMOUNT THAT WE EXPECT DURING THAT, THAT A SERIES OF EATS AND VALLEYS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE ABILITY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
BASED ON THAT EXPLANATION WITH THE INCREASED IN THE INTEREST RATE AND THE DECREASE IN DEMAND FOR HOUSING HAS A RESULT THAT WE'VE SEEN, YOU'RE STILL ANTICIPATING A LARGE INCREASE IN THE RE PLANS REVIEW ASPECT, ACTUALLY.
UM, AND THE REASON WE DO THAT, PART OF THE METHODOLOGY WE USE TO DO THAT IS, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS THAT THEY'RE FORWARD THINKING.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE ECONOMY TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW, BECAUSE THAT'LL BE THE TIME WHEN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THEIR STARTING NOW WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN PLACE.
SO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET, AND I GET FROM MY MEETING WITH THAT COMMUNITY, TELL ME THAT THAT, THAT VOLUME IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE, IS THAT GOING TO BE WITH INDIVIDUAL ENGINEERS OR ARE YOU GOING TO GO TO LIKE THE FRED WARDS IN THE GEORGE W. STEVENS? I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO THAT KCI IS.
ONE OF THEM THAT WE GO TO CONSULTING ENGINEERING FIRMS, PRIMARILY THOSE WHO DO NOT DO LAND DEVELOPMENT, DESIGN, AND ACCOUNTING, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT OUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST, A CONSULTANT REVIEWING AN ENDORPHIN.
UH, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS ON BOARD, UH, AVAILABLE FOR THAT, UM, UH, WALLACE, MONTGOMERY AND ASSOCIATES IS ONE.
PCI IS ANOTHER, UH, WBCN, THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, SO THEY ARE, THEY ARE, UH, READY AND AVAILABLE WHEN WE DO NEED THEM.
UH, AND THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE AND HIGHLY QUALIFIED TECHNICAL FOLKS THAT ARE REVIEWING AS IF THEY WERE OUR STAFF.
THANK YOU, SCOTT AND MR. SHREWD? YES.
UM, YEAH, JUST WANTED TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SOMEBODY, UM, TUNING IN AND HAD A QUESTION ABOUT HIGHWAYS, BUT YOU GUYS ARE THE MAIN GUYS HERE.
SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE, UM, A LIST OF, UH, THE PRIORITIES WITH CONVERSION FROM EARTH IN THE TAR AND CHIP? UM, THIS SPECIFIC, UM, CONSTITUENT WAS CALLING FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF DEER CREEK ON AMOS ROAD.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS BACK THAT WE DID HAVE A FULL-OUT PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ROAD.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL WHEN WE HAD THAT PROCESS OF, UH, GOING THROUGH TO, TO KIND OF SEE WHERE THEY WOULD ALL LINE UP.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LIST OF THE, UH, THE ASPHALT SIDE, 682 MILES, BUT THIS WOULD BE
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OKAY.AND I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ASPHALT OR HARDSHIP ALL EARTH AND ROADS.
THAT'S NOT ME, BUT, UM, THERE ARE ONES THAT HAVE KIND OF GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHERE, UM, THE RESIDENTS WANT THAT IT HAPPENS TO BE THIS ISN'T A CUT-THROUGH ROAD.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE LIKE INCREASE OF SPEEDING TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE A LIST OF, UH, OUR PRIORITIES IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSION.
THERE IS NO FRAUD BUDGET TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE CONVERSIONS.
SO BUILDING OUR OPERATING BUDGET, SOME MONEY TO CONVERT SMALL SECTIONS OF ROADS THAT ARE CREATING THESE PROBLEMS FOR US, HILLSIDES, WETLAND AREAS, THINGS LIKE THAT, OR WET AREAS THAT REALLY CAUSES A MAINTENANCE PROBLEM.
SO WE DO HAVE A LIST OF THOSE THAT WE'D LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS AREA IT'S, IT'S LIKE REAL SHADY.
SO IT, IT LIKE FREE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN ON A EARTH AND ROAD THAT'S FROZEN.
IT DOESN'T REALLY GO WELL BECAUSE IT HOLDS SO MUCH MOISTURE.
AND I THINK IN THIS CASE, UM, THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
AND THERE IS A VERY STEEP BANK OFF TO THE LEFT.
I HAD YOU GUYS PUT GUARD RAILS.
I REQUESTED GUARD RAILS, WHICH YOU DID A FEW YEARS AGO.
CAUSE IF YOU WENT, I MEAN, YOU'RE LITERALLY GOING DOWN LIKE 500 FEET OFF TO THE LEFT.
UM, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, UM, SOMEBODY WAS TUNING IN AND LISTENING TO US AND IT BROUGHT THAT UP AT, AT THE END OF THAT ROAD THERE.
AND, UM, SO I THOUGHT I'D BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION, BUT I GUESS IF I COULD SEE A COMPREHENSIVE LIST, UM, IF YOU HAVE A PRIORITIZE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING THEM ALL AT ONCE, BUT WE'RE DOING A FEW YEAR AND I THINK IT'S WORKED OUT WELL.
UM, I DO KIND OF THINK CERTAIN ONES ARE SPECIAL THAT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SHOULD NEVER BE CONVERTED TO TAR AND CHIP OR ASPHALT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC CHARACTER IN THERE, UH, OTHER ATTRIBUTES, UM, THAT THEY HAVE, BUT IN CASES OF SAFETY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UM, CONSTITUENTS REALLY WANT IT, NOT ALL OF THEM WANT IT, YOU KNOW, BUT IN THIS CASE, UM, WE DID GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.
UM, AND YOU'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AFTER I TOLD THEM THEY SHOULD FOLLOW UP WITH ME, RIGHT.
UH, JUST HOPEFULLY IT'S ONE QUESTION.
UM, SO I KNOW THE TRANSFER STATION IN BALTIMORE COUNTY, RIGHT? UH, COUNCILMAN SHERDS, AND I VISITED THAT.
SO THE FOLKS DOWN ON THE SOUTHERN END, IT'S A LONG TRACK FROM THE SOUTHERN END OF THE COUNTY TO SCARBOROUGH.
WHAT'S THE POSSIBILITIES OF GETTING INTO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH, UH, I GUESS IT'S HONEY GOAT DOWN IN BALTIMORE COUNTY SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT TRACK ALL THE WAY UP TO SCARBOROUGH.
IS IT A POSSIBILITY, COULD IT BE A POSSIBILITY? IT WOULD ONLY BE A POSSIBILITY OF BALTIMORE COUNTY WE'RE WILLING TO DO IT.
UM, FARMER CAN USE UP THEIR SOLID WASTE SYSTEM IS OPERATING A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN STATE.
THEY PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES TO THEIR RESIDENTS, WE DOWN.
SO SINCE THEY OFFER FREE, FREE TRASH SERVICE SUBSIDIZED ON THEIR CUSTOMERS OR THEIR RESIDENTS COME IN FOR FREE AND THEN TRYING TO CHOOSE AIR CUSTOMERS AND RECHARGE OURS, BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T OFFER THAT BECAUSE, UM, THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESISTANT TO THAT IN THE PAST.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA CHANGE ANYTIME IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, MR. SCOTT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'VE MISSED MY OPPORTUNITY OR WE'RE NOT ON THIS BECAUSE DPW HAS GOT SO MANY PIECES EVERYWHERE.
UM, WATERSHED MANAGEMENT FUND THAT I MISSED MY OPPORTUNITY THERE.
THEY'RE STILL SITTING HERE, UM, WITHIN THAT AND WITHIN THE INDEX, UH, 30, 33 20, WHICH IS THE WATER SAID MANAGEMENT, UH, THERE'S MONEY THAT GETS, UH, FOR PAYMENTS FOR THE TOWNS.
IS THAT AN, ARE THOSE PAYMENTS, IS THAT BY AGREEMENT AS FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE OR IS THAT A GUARANTEED PAYMENT EACH YEAR TO THE TAMPA? AS WE ENTERED INTO A MOU WITH THE THREE TOWNS, I WANT TO SAY ABOUT, UH, TWO YEARS AGO, UM, ONCE THEIR, UM, PERMITS STARTED COMING TO A LINE THAT THEY NEEDED TO, TO ADDRESS, UM, TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THE COUNTY WAS USING RECREATION COUNTY
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WIDE REVENUE SOURCE AS ITS, UM, UM, SUPPORT, UM, FOR THE, UM, UH, FOR THESE PROJECTS AND NOT DO IT, A RAIN TAX, WE NEED TO COME TO AN AGREED WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO COME TO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWNS, UM, TO DO SOME SOMETHING LIKE REVENUE SHARING OR RELEVANT PARTNERSHIP.AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH IS THAT, UM, THEY GET A POSSIBLY 20% OF ANY DEDICATED REVENUE, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS RECREATION, UM, TO THEM.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL FORMALIZED AND, AND WE'RE ALL, UH, ALL FALL PARTIES ARE ON BOARD WITH THAT.
WAS THAT AGREEMENT BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL FOR VERBAL, THAT AGREEMENT WAS, UM, AND WE, WE, UH, YOU SIGNED OFF ON ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
I CAN'T RECALL IF IT WAS UNDER, WAS UNDER THE HEALTHY, UH, I MEAN, DEFINITELY THE, UM, ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES SIGNED, SIGNED OFF ON IT.
UM, IT WAS, THIS IS A LEGAL QUESTION FOR CHARLIE.
IS THERE NOT A PROVISION IN THE CHARTER WHERE YOU MAKE COMMITMENTS OF FUTURE FUNDS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THAT AGREEMENT? YEAH, IT IS.
I BELIEVE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT, OR ANYONE ELSE SINCE HE'S UP HERE, YOU WOULDN'T JUST DO HIS CAPITAL.
UM, SOLID WASTE HAS CAPITAL AND THEY'RE ON PAGE.
HE HAS ONE CAPITAL PROJECT, 180 2.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR $5 MILLION TO BE ADDED TO THE WASTE ENERGY FACILITY CLOSURE PROJECT, UM, WHICH AS YOU PLANNED A WHILE AGO, UM, WE DID, UM, REMOVED THE PLANT AND, UM, NOW WE HAVE TO GO ON POST AND REMOVE ALL THE STEAM LINES.
YOU HAD MEETING WITH THE ARMY LAST WEEK TO GO OVER WHAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO.
AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD TO THAT PROBLEM.
DID THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WOODLEY ROAD? NO, NOTHING AT ALL.
BECAUSE WE HAD HEARD, WE HAD HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE THAT, THAT THE WHOLE PLAN WAS TIED TO THIS COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT DISCUSSION.
THIS WASTED ENERGY CLOSURE PROJECT WAS INITIATED 10 YEARS AGO.
UM, WENT THROUGH TWO PHASES AS HE SAID, DEMOLISHED MEANT OF THE PLAN AND DECOMMISSIONING.
AND THEN PART OF THAT AGREEMENT ALSO INCLUDED THE REMOVAL OF THE STEAM LINES.
SO THAT, THAT FUNCTION, THAT BUDGET, THAT EFFORT IS COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF ANYTHING ELSE.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, OKAY.
WATERSHED MANAGEMENT, CAPITAL PROJECTS.
START ON PAGE 82 IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHO MENTIONED THAT I'D BEEN HERE A LOT OF TIMES, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I, I LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND OF, OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR PERMIT PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE DON'T FIT INTO KIND OF THE NORMAL NICHE OF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH, UH, MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT, ALONG WITH THE OTHER FOUR MEDIUM MUNICIPALITIES WHO HAVE MS FOR PERMITS, UH, TO COME UP WITH A DRAFT AND ALSO AN MEP ANALYSIS, MEP BEING MAXIMUM EXTENT, PRACTICABLE THAT OUR ANALYSIS IS BASED BOTH ON OUR PHYSICAL AND FINANCIAL CAPACITY.
AND THOSE ARE UNIQUE TO EACH OF THE FIVE MEDIUM JURISDICTIONS, AS WELL AS THE LARGE IN MARCH.
UH, MDE ISSUED ALL FIVE OF THOSE PERMITS FOR TENTATIVE DETERMINATION.
AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY OPEN FOR PUBLIC THROUGH JUNE IN JUNE
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OF LAST, OR I'M SORRY.IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, FOUR OF THE FIVE LARGE MS. FOUR JURISDICTIONS WERE ISSUED THEIR FINAL PERMITS.
AND TWO OF THOSE ARE UNDER APPEAL CURRENTLY, UM, THROUGH, UH, APPEALS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY.
UH, THE JURISDICTION PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY IS, UH, IN TENTATIVE DETERMINATION CURRENTLY.
AND THEY ARE UNDER A CONSENT ORDER BECAUSE THEY DID NOT COMPLETE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEIR PAST PERMIT.
UH, WE WERE, UH, FIRST ISSUED RMS FOUR PERMIT IN 1994.
I WAS HERE AT THAT TIME AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR PERMITS OVER THAT TIME PERIOD.
SO IF YOU, YOU DO THE MATH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A FIVE-YEAR PERMIT, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT IS ADMINISTRATIVELY EXTENDED, UH, WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE EXTENSION RIGHT NOW.
UH, THE FIRST 20 OF THE 27 YEARS OF THIS PROGRAM WAS SOLELY FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO COMPETE WITH THE LARGER DEPARTMENTS FOR GENERAL FUNDING IN 2015, UH, THAT BUDGET WAS APPROVED, UH, WITH PROPOSALS FROM MR GLASSMAN AND APPROVAL THROUGH THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO HAVE A DEDICATED REVENUE SERVE, UH, SOURCE FOR THROUGH REPUTATION.
AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY BIG GAME CHANGER FOR US TO HAVE THOSE DEDICATED FUNDS THAT ALLOWS US TO DO PLANNING.
AND IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER AMOUNTS OF FUNDING TO MOVE OUR PROGRAM FORWARD.
UH, THE LARGEST PIECE OF FUNDING FOR OUR PROGRAM, OUR RESTORATION PROJECTS AND OUR RESTORATION PROJECTS ARE FOCUSED ON IMPROVEMENTS TO WATER QUALITY.
WE HAVE, UH, JUST RECENTLY COMMITTED, COMPLETED OUR MOST ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SEASON TO DATE.
UM, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD.
UH, THREE OF THOSE, UH, ARE CURRENTLY COMPLETED, UH, UM, ON COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES, UH, SEE MOUNTAIN, RIGHT AS A STREAM RESTORATION.
SO IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY GO SEE THAT ENTIRE PROJECT IS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
UM, FALSE, UM, FALLSTON LIBRARY WAS RECENTLY COMMITTED, UH, COMPLETED.
THAT WAS AN UPGRADE TO AN EXISTING STORM WATER MANAGEMENT FACILITY.
THERE WERE SOME REPAIRS THAT WERE NEEDED.
SO WE WORKED, UH, THROUGH A REPAIR FUND AND THEN UPGRADED IT TO MORE MODERN STANDARDS.
AND WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON FINALIZING A HEAVENLY STREAM RESTORATION PROJECT ALONG THE MOD, PAUL OFF THE TALKY ROAD.
UM, WE HAVE 11 DESIGNS CURRENTLY, UM, CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN.
UM, FOUR OF THOSE ARE ON COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES, ALL OF THREE OF ALL, THREE OF THOSE, THREE OF THOSE ARE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.
SO WE PARTNER WITH SCHOOLS QUITE A BIT.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, UH, DEVELOPING A MATRIX FOR SELECTING NEW PROJECTS.
UM, OUR CURRENT MIX OF PROJECTS IN THE PAST HAS BEEN UPGRADING EXISTING STORM WATER FACILITIES, CONSTRUCTING NEW STORM WATER FACILITIES AND A STREAM RESTORATION.
UH, WE'VE BEEN EXPANDING THAT TO ALSO INCLUDE, UH, LAND CONVERSION PROJECTS, UH, PRIMARILY, UH, MEADOW PLANTINGS AND TREE PLANTINGS.
AND WE'VE ALSO CONTINUED TO WORK, UH, WITH OTHER COUNTY AGENCIES, PARKS AND REC SCHOOLS, SOLID WASTE, AND MOST RECENTLY HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE, WE USE ROUTINELY, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE US A LOT OF CREDITS, BUT IT'S A REALLY GREAT PROGRAM THAT, UH, IS REALLY VERY LITTLE WORK ON MY HAT ON MY BEHALF.
BUT YOU DO RECEIVE CREDITS FOR, UH, RESIDENTS WHO DISCONNECT FROM THE YEAR SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND THEN CONNECT TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND THAT IS A DIRECT, UH, GRANT TO PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, IN $4,500 THAT GOES TOWARDS EACH OF THOSE CONNECTIONS AND A WATER SEWER HAS BEEN DOING A REALLY FANTASTIC JOB, HONESTLY, OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, IT'S REALLY SEEN A VERY, UM, ACCELERATION OF THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S NICE TO HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR MIX OF TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.
UM, IN ADDITION TO RESTORATION, IT IS A LARGE BULK OF THE MONIES THAT WE SPEND, BUT WE ALSO HAVE REQUIREMENTS TO DO A WATERSHED BASED MONITORING.
UH, POST-CONSTRUCTION MONITORING, UH, REQUIRED FOR PERMITTING, UH, WATER QUALITY, MODERN MODELING, UH, RESTORATION PLANS FOR TMDL, AND THOSE ALL HELP US DRIVE WHERE OUR PROJECT SELECTIONS ARE OCCURRING.
AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING VERY ACTIVELY ON, UH, HOW WE MANAGE THESE FACETS AS, UH, MORE AND MORE BECOMING INVENTORY INVENTORY.
WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS INSPECTION.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONIES THAT WE'RE SPENDING ARE ARE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT THEY DON'T NEED REPAIRS IN THE LONGTERM.
AND WE HAVE A COMPONENT FOR OUTREACH AS WELL.
OVERALL REQUEST FOR FYI 23 IS $1.3 MILLION.
UH, A LARGE PORTION IN BONDS, 8 MILLION, $450,000, 850 IN PAYGO, AND $2 MILLION FOR A
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FUTURE, UH, GRANT CAPACITY.UM, IF THE, UH, COUNCIL REMEMBERS, UH, EVERY TWO YEARS, WE ARE REQUIRED TO COME FORTH TO YOU FOR OUR FINANCIAL ASSURANCE PLAN THAT'S REQUIRED, UM, THROUGH OUR PROGRAM.
WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU, UM, IN LATE SUMMER, EARLY FALL FOR, UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
UM, THIS YEAR WE HAVE A RESET, SO TO SPEAK OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, TO ALIGN WITH OUR PENDING APPROVAL OF OUR MS. FOUR PERMIT.
UH, WE WORK GENERALLY IN UMBRELLA ACCOUNTS BY WATERSHED.
UM, THOSE WATERSHEDS ARE AREAS THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, ASSESSMENTS ARE READY AND WE FOCUS, UH, IN, IN THOSE DIRECTION.
UM, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY UNDERDESIGNED WE CAN GO THROUGH, UM, GO THROUGH THE PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY, OR I CAN ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS MR. JAMES, OR DONE.
UM, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THE SUNNY FEW STREAM RESTORATION? IT SAYS DESIGNED IS 95% COMPLETE NOTHING BUDGETED FOR 23, BUT PRIOR IS 5 MILLION.
SO IS IT DONE? WE ARE FULLY FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND, UM, THE REASON THAT WE, UM, HAVE, HAVE FOCUSED SOME OF OUR PROJECTS ON COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES IS THAT THE LAND ACQUISITION HE'S ON THESE PROJECTS CAN BE VERY ARDUOUS.
UM, SUNNY VIEW, UH, HAS 25 PLUS PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND WE HAVE ONE THAT WE ARE HAVING A DIFFICULTY WITH ACHIEVING EASEMENT ACCESS TO IN GENERAL, OUR PROJECTS ARE VOLUNTARY AND, UH, WE DON'T PUSH FOR EASEMENTS IN THIS CASE.
UM, W WE HAVE IMPACTS, UH, WITH SEWER AND IN THIS CASE, UM, WE WE'RE, WE KEEP TRYING TO NEGOTIATE AND COME TO TERMS, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MEET THOSE.
SO I SEE SO FAR LAND ACQUISITION WAS 845,000.
SO DID WE PAY SOME PEOPLE FOR THEIR PROPERTY? WHAT IS THAT? STEVE SHAKEN SAID, NO, NO, WE DO NOT PAY, WE DO NOT PAY FOR EASEMENTS.
SO WHAT'S THAT PAINT? WHAT'S THAT PAYMENT OF 845,000 LAND ACQUISITION.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT PAGE YOU'RE ON? THE RESEARCH THAT ONE AND THEN OLD PROJECT OR AN OLD, UH, THIS IS AN OLD ITEM, SO IT WAS NOT FOR EVERYTHING.
SO AT THIS POINT WHERE WE'VE GOT, AND I KNOW THIS WAS ALSO A TIMING ISSUE WHERE WE CAN ONLY DO THIS IN THE SPRING BECAUSE OF SOME FISH.
AND I DON'T MEAN JUST SOME FISH, BUT CERTAIN YOU CAN'T BUILD AFTER SPRAYING BECAUSE OF THE SPAWNS AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE KEEP, IF THIS DOESN'T GET RESOLVED, WE'RE AT ANOTHER YEAR ON THIS, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE GOT THE FUNDING, WE'VE GOT A CERTAIN WINDOW OF TIME THAT WE CAN DO THIS.
IN THE MEANTIME, THESE PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES ARE ERODING MORE AND MORE.
WHAT DO WE DO IF THE ONE PERSON DOESN'T WANT TO AGREE TO THE EASEMENT? IS IT GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE HAVE TO, I MEAN, WHERE DOES THIS GO FROM HERE? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EXPERIENCED, UM, A PUSHBACK FROM AN EASEMENT WHERE THERE IS A SEWER LINE INVOLVED.
IN OTHER CASES, WE'VE WORKED AROUND, IF THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNER THAT DOES NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, AND THERE'S NOT AN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT, WE'LL WORK AROUND IT AND ADJUST THE DESIGN ACCORDINGLY.
UNFORTUNATELY,
SO OF COURSE WE CAN BUILD ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY AND EVEN ENTER A VIEW TO DO THE WORK WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL.
UM, AND AS CHRISTINE SAID, UM, WHEN THESE SORTS OF THINGS HAPPEN, WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO HAVE BEEN REDESIGNED TO POSSIBLY AVOID ANY IMPACT OF AVOID ANY IMPORTANT, ANOTHER AFFECT SCHEDULE AND EFFECTS, COST.
AND IT'S VERY, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO WORK AS WE NORMALLY DO.
UM, UH, MAY THE PROPERTY OWNERS IS POSSIBLE.
UH, AND IF I COULD ADD TO THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAD ABOUT THE
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LAND ACQUISITION FEES, UH, TYPICALLY THERE ARE, UH, SURVEYOR FEES WORK ASSOCIATED WITH AN ELEPHANT TWENTY-FIVE SEPARATE FIVE SORT OF AGREEMENTS.UH, SO IN THE PAST THAT'S BEEN WHERE SOME OF THAT LINE ITEM HAS BEEN FOR NOT FOR THE COST OF WRITING THE CHECK FOR AN EASEMENT, BUT THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS TOGETHER.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR PROJECTS FOR THE MOST PART ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE WHERE YOU HAVE THE MOST IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF CREDITS FOR THAT, BUT THERE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS OUTSIDE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ADULT AREAS THAT ALSO HAVE EROSION PROBLEMS, FLASHY, CREEKS, YOU KNOW, UM, SCOURING, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DEAL WITH.
AND I JUST THINK IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE A LITTLE OR A LITTLE POT OF MONEY TO DEAL WITH SITUATIONS.
LIKE I JUST MENTIONED UP IN JARRETTSVILLE, UM, OFF OF DELANEY DELANEY ROAD.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW UP IN RURAL HARFORD COUNTY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN DEAL WITH SOIL CONSERVATION ON A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS AND, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT NOT EVERYTHING'S AG ZONED AG ASSESSED AND BEING FARMED.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER LAND OUT THERE THAT MAY, AND OFTENTIMES THESE EROSION PROBLEMS ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE IMPERVIOUS PERVIOUS SURFACE OF ROADWAY OR ROAD OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, IT'S JUST THAT THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SUBS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SUBDIVISION, NOT LIKE AN ACRE LOT OR WHATEVER OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TYPICALLY BUILT BETWEEN, UH, PRIOR TO FEBRUARY, 1977.
THERE'S SMALLER LOT SUBDIVISIONS ARE, ARE AWARE OF OTHER PROBLEMS OCCUR.
UM, IT DOES SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEN WE, WE DEAL WITH, UM, JUST LIKE WE DO IN THE DEVELOPED, WE HAVE A LOT MORE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT CONTROLS.
AND, UM, WELL THE SAME THING HAPPENS IN A RURAL AREA.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT PROJECTS HERE AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT YOU UTILIZE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF WE COULD JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR PROJECTS THAT WOULD REALLY MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND THEY WOULD BE SMALL, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT HONESTLY WOULD NOT TAKE A LOT OF DESIGN.
IT MIGHT NOT EVEN HARDLY TAKE ANY ENGINEERING AT ALL.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COMMON SENSE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A ROADWAY THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, HANDLING, LET'S SAY A QUARTER MILE OF ROAD.
AND WHEN IT RAINS, EVERYTHING COMES OUT ON THE STREET, GOES, DOWNHILL, GOES INTO BOX DRAIN, AND THEN JUST OUTLETS DOWNHILL TOWARDS A CREEK OR A DITCH OR SOMETHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL THING.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, BUT I THINK YOU WOULDN'T GET A LOT OF BANG FOR THE BUCK.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH CREDITS, BUT MY POINT IS, IS NOT EVERYTHING IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT THE SOLE CONSERVATION DISTRICT WOULD HANDLE OUTSIDE OF IT.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, IF YOU HAD A FARM HERE, YOU COULD DO IT.
YOU CAN DO IT HERE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVOY.
BUT IF YOU'RE IN BETWEEN OR IN ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE UP THE CREEK, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM.
YOU HAVE TO HIRE, UH, ANY CATONE OR SOMEBODY WHO DOES THE TYPE OF WORK.
SO I DON'T KNOW, CHRISTY, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
IT'S KIND OF MY LAST HURRAH HERE.
AND I JUST KIND OF THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE FUN FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO IT, OR IF I SAID IT THE WAY PROPER WAY BEN.
SO, SO ONE THING THAT, THAT THERE'S CERTAINLY DISCUSSION WITH HIGHWAYS AND CHRISTINE'S OFFICE AND CHRISTINE ABOUT PROJECTS AND EROSION ISSUES THAT ARE, ARE GREATER THAN WHAT NORMAL HIGHWAY MAINTENANCE CAN CAN RESOLVE.
NOW WE DO, UH, STABILIZE OUTFALLS.
WE GO A CERTAIN DISTANCE DOWNSTREAM FROM CULVER'S WHERE THERE'S A ROSEN AND TRY TO STABILIZE THAT SORT OF WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE HIGHWAY ITSELF, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWNSTREAM TO THOSE OUTFALLS BIG ONES.
WE DO HIT CHRISTINE INVOLVED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER, UH, THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS FIT INTO THE PROGRAM AS THEY ARE.
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UM, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.I LOOKED DOWN HERE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE HUGE IN, UM, IN PERSPECTIVE, UM, WHERE THERE'S A BENEFIT TO DOING IT, BOTH FOR THE ROADWAY, BECAUSE THE ROADWAY, LIKE YOU SAID, CAUSED CAUSE EROSION PROBLEM, AS A CLEAR AS THE BILL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A CASE BY CASE, BUT NEAR YOUR POINTS WHILE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.
YEAH, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE OUT 9 24.
CAN'T QUITE REMEMBER THE ROAD, BUT I KNOW IT'S OUT OF MY DISTRICT.
CAUSE SOMETIMES I DO THAT, PEOPLE KNOW ME.
AND, UM, CAN'T REMEMBER THE SITE OUT TO, I COULD GIVE YOU THAT ADDRESS AS WELL, BUT HERE IT WAS THE SAME THING IN COMMON SENSE SHOWS YOU WHAT'S CAUSING THE PROBLEM.
AND THEN IT GOES RIGHT IN, HE'S TAPPING THE FRONT OF MY FOOT.
HEAR MY POINT? I THINK SO, MR. SCOTT, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PROJECT ON PAGE 91, IT'S THE WHEEL CREEK WATERSHED, UH, ASSESSMENT, UH, OR RESTORATION PROJECT.
UM, YOU'RE ADDING, WE'RE REQUESTING TO ADD 300,000 IN THIS YEAR TO THE PROJECT, UH, YET IN THE PROJECT STATUS, YOU SAY ALL PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
THERE WERE IDENTIFIED, UH, BUT IT'S ONGOING MONITORING.
UH, IS THIS 300,000 FOR THE MONITORING? I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE THAT THAT THE FULL $300,000 IN THIS CASE IS FOR MONITORING.
WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, REPAIRS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ON LOWER WHEEL CREEK FOR A COMPLETED PROJECT.
UM, SO A PORTION OF THAT IS LIKELY COVERING, UH, THE REPAIR COSTS AS WELL.
WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THE MONITORING ASPECT AFTER PROJECTS COMPLETE.
UM, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT, UH, IT IS OUR AMBIENT STATION, WHICH, UH, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THROUGH OUR PERMIT TO MONITOR BEFORE AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE DO BEFORE IT OCCURS, CONSTRUCTION OCCURS.
AND THEN WE LOOK AT WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE.
UH LONG-TERM AND IT'S REALLY THREE COMPONENTS OF MONITORING.
IT'S A PHYSICAL MONITORING WHERE YOU TAKE MEASUREMENTS OF THE STREAM ACROSS THE STREAM, AS WELL AS A LONGITUDINAL, UM, IT'S BIOLOGICAL MONITORING OF AQUATIC INSECTS, AND THEN ALSO CHEMICAL MONITORING.
AND THE CHEMICAL MONITORING COMPONENT ALSO INCLUDES A, UM, RAINFALL AND A USG S GAUGE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO, UH, DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF POLLUTANTS ARE COMING OFF AND MODEL THOSE OVER A YEAR'S TIME BASED ON THOSE PIECES.
AND IS THE MONITORING GOING TO BE A FOREVER? NO, NO.
AND THAT'S WHY WE, UM, ANTICIPATE, UM, INCLUDING THE, THE MONITORING HERE WITH THE COMPLETION OF OUR, OUR CURRENT PERMIT.
AND THEN THERE ARE NEW MONITORING OPTIONS IN THE PERMIT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UH, WE WILL BE DOING SOME MONITORING IN THIS LOCATION ON LONG-TERM, BUT IT WILL BE MUCH LESS INTENSIVE.
AND THAT MONITORING IS DICTATED BY THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND PART OF THEIR POOR POWER, MS. PUMP ENDS WITH THEM.
SO J SPECIFY, WE EXTENDED THE DURATION OF THE MONITOR.
SO THE MONITORING TIMEFRAME IS PROJECT SPECIFIC.
UM, AND IN THIS PHASE IT'S TIED TO A BIGGER WATERSHED BASED REQUIREMENT IN OUR MS FOUR PERMIT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PERMIT MONITORING FOR STREAM RESTORATIONS THAT IS LIMITED, USUALLY THREE TO FIVE YEARS POST CONSTRUCTION.
AND WE FUND THAT THROUGH OUR WATERSHED ASSESSMENT CAPITAL PROJECT.
THIS QUESTION IS PROBABLY MORE FOR ROBBIE.
UM, HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO CONSIDER MONITORING PART OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO AN OPERATING COST? WELL, I MEAN, IF IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT, TO THAT PROJECT, MAYBE WE LIKE TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD.
IF WE WOULDN'T KEEP IT UP FOR YEARS, IT WOULD JUST BE JUST A YEAR OR SO.
WE WOULDN'T BE THAT IN ANY PROJECT OR ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, WHERE IT'S JUST KIND OF MORE OR LESS THE MONITORING.
UM, SO IT'S A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT, ANYONE ELSE? RIGHT.
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WELL, THANK YOU.AND THE SHORE WATER SOURCE NEXT.
SO DID I MS. SNOW REMOVAL? YOU MISSED IT.
I AIN'T ASKED PAT
YOUR QUESTION, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
SO, SO THE WATER, SO THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT, THERE'S SNOW REMOVAL.
SO THE QUESTION I HAD WITH SNOW REMOVAL IS FROM MY GOSH, ONE YEAR THERE WAS A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING THOUSAND AND THE NEXT YEAR THERE'S 600,000.
UM, WHY SUCH THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS AND THE AUDITED? AND THEN DID WE SPEND ALL OUR MONEY THIS YEAR? IF NOT, HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND? UM, WHAT I REMEMBER, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONAL SERVICES, EVERY OVERTIME COST.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE STORY, HOW MANY STORMS WE HAVE.
SO HOW MUCH DID WE, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT WE SPENT THIS YEAR AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY? DOES IT JUST GO BACK INTO THE HIGHWAYS? OKAY.
STAYS WITHIN THERE IN YOUR MIND THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE SNOW REMOVAL, WHAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS YOU THINK WHEN WE HAD THAT GREAT JOB, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO IN THE SPRING, THE FALL, WHENEVER WE HAD IT, SO YOU CAN HAVE NON SNOW.
AND IT WAS SUCH A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE COST OF 117,000 TO 770,000.
AND WE BUDGETED LIKE 630,000 THIS YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THANK YOU, THE SUBSIDY FOR EXPENDITURES, NOT ONLY THE NUMBER OF STORMS THAT THE TIMING TWO WINTERS AGO, WE HAD, IT ALL SEEMED TO HAPPEN ON THE WEEKEND, WHICH MEANT THAT OUR FOLKS RESPONDING OVER TIME ON WEEKENDS, AS OPPOSED TO THANK YOU.
YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE THIS PRESENTATION.
LOOK, HE'S GOT PROMPTS TOO LATE.
IT'S ALREADY PRI RECOGNIZES THAT TERRACOTTA WITH INSURANCE, SOMETHING BRIGHT AND SHINY, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THAT FLORENCE.
IS THAT THE POLY? JOE, DO YOU WANT HIM TO START OFF AND OR YOU GIVE YOU A BRIEF TERRA COTTA PLATE OR NO, GO AHEAD.
UM, GOOD MORNING COUNCIL, PRESIDENT OF INCENTIVE WARNING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I SERVE AS A DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER.
UH, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW TODAY, FUNDS HARTFORD COUNTIES, PUBLIC WATER, AND SEWER UTILITY.
WHAT IT DOES, UM, JOINING US THIS MORNING ARE SELECT MEMBERS OF MY MANAGEMENT TEAM WHO WILL TURN THIS BUDGET INTO RESPONSIVE, HIGH QUALITY, 24, 7 WATER AND SEWER SERVICES FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
I'M GOING TO ASK THEM TO RAISE THEIR HANDS AS I, AS I POINT THEM OUT.
BUT WITH US TODAY IS THE CHIEF OF OPERATIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE THE CHIEF OF MAINTENANCE AND THE METERS DEPARTMENT AND AS DARCY AND SOME OF HIS SUPPORTING TEAM, HIS MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT, BETH UNDERLINE, AND HIS SUPERINTENDENT ALSO, DAVE IS NOT HERE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE CHIEF OF PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATION, DAVE BERG, AND TO ROUND OUT THE SUPPORTING TEAM WITHIN THE DIVISION.
ALSO HERE IS PAM SIMPER, THE DIVISION MAN, A MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT.
THERE'S OUR ACCOUNTANT DIPTI WHY'D YA AND OUR SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE OFFICER JOHN DUMAS AT THANK YOU, TIM FOR JOINING.
AND THEY'RE HERE TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT THEY'RE ALSO MY PHONE, A FRIEND OR MY LIFELINE IN CASE I GET A TOUGH QUESTION THAT I NEED DETAIL ON.
WE ALL THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND PRESENT THIS BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, ONTO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FUNDS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET I HANDED OUT THE FRONT ONE, UM, OUR SERVICE AREA IS
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THE DARKER GREEN.AND AS A UTILITY, WE SERVE ABOUT 46,000 CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS, WHICH SERVES A POPULATION OF ABOUT 130,000 PEOPLE, CITIZENS RESIDENTS.
UM, WE HAVE 169 WATER AND SEWER EMPLOYEES WHO OPERATE, MAINTAIN AND MANAGE THE UTILITY.
IF WE GO TO THE WATER SYSTEM, IF YOU LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT, UH, CONSISTS OF THREE HIGH-TECH TREATMENT PLANTS JUST ABOUT A YEAR AGO, MOST OF YOU WENT ON A TOUR AND WE WENT TO TWO OF THOSE THREE.
SO YOU MAY REMEMBER, UM, SO THOSE PLANTS, IF YOU RECALL, PRODUCE ABOUT 13 MILLION GALLONS OF HIGH QUALITY DRINKING WATER EVERY DAY, THIS WATER IS THEN DISTRIBUTED TO OUR CUSTOMERS THROUGH 12 STORAGE TANKS AND ABOUT 700 MILES OF WATER DISTRIBUTION PIPE.
AFTER OUR CUSTOMERS USE THIS WATER, IT IS COLLECTED THROUGH ABOUT 750 MILES OF PIPE CONVEYED THROUGH FIFTY-FIVE PUMPING STATIONS AND TO ONE OF OUR TWO WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS THAT SAME APPROXIMATELY 13 MILLION GALLONS A DAY OF NOW, WASTEWATER IS TREATED DISINFECTED AND THEN RETURNED TO THE BUSH AND GUNPOWDER RIVERS ARE RETURNED.
WATER IS SAFE, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AND MEETS ALL REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON A NEW CAPABILITY THAT YOU FUNDED BY YOUR APPROVAL OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO DURING FISCAL YEAR 22, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE AND THEN FIELD A NEW SEWER INSPECTION CAMERA, VAN CAPABILITY.
SO IF YOU LOOK TO PAGE TWO OF YOUR HANDOUT IS A PICTURE OF THAT NEW CAPABILITY, BOTH THE VAN AND THE SEWER CAMERA ABOUT TO BE LAUNCHED INTO A SEWER.
SO THIS NEW CAPABILITY, IT'S NEW FOR US AND I'LL CALL IT REALLY CUTTING EDGE STATE OF THE ART.
THAT'S WHAT THE MOST ADVANCED UTILITIES IN THE COUNTRIES HAVE, ALLOW US TO MAKE SAFE.
NON-INVASIVE VIDEO INSPECTIONS OF MAINLINE SEWERS USING THAT CAMERA THAT YOU SEE ROBOTIC CAMERA THAT DRIVES THROUGH THE SEWER.
THERE'S A SEPARATE LATERAL LAUNCH.
A SMALL CAMERA CAN GO AT A RIGHT ANGLE FROM THAT MAIN LINE SEWER UP ONE OF THE HOUSE CONNECTIONS AND TAKE A LOOK, UH, WHERE, WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSE CONNECTS TO OUR SEWER.
SO AGAIN, INSPECT AND HELP US FIX PROBLEMS THERE.
UM, THAT CAPABILITY ALSO CAME WITH A SOFTWARE PACKAGE, THE PACKAGE, AND INTERPRETS THE IMAGES THAT THAT CAMERA PICKS UP TO HELP US ASSESS THE CONDITION OF THE PIPE AND TO EVEN HELP US MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT.
SO IF YOU GO TO PAGE THREE OF YOUR HANDOUT, TWO PICTURES ABOUT A RECENT EXAMPLE, WHEN RESPONDING TO A STOPPAGE, WE FOUND A CRACKED SECTION OF CLAY PIPE.
THAT'S THE TOP PICTURE THERE, AND THIS IS NOT THAT PIECE OF PIPE, BUT IT COULD WELL BE IT TALKS ABOUT A HINGE FRACTURE AT THE TOP.
WHAT'S A PIPE BREAKS LIKE THIS, AND IT WAS AT THE TOP.
NOW THAT'S AN URGENT PROBLEM THAT WE MUST IMMEDIATELY REPAIR.
IT COULD OTHERWISE COLLAPSE AND HAVE A FULL BLOCKAGE OF THAT BIT OF SERVICING SEWER.
UM, BUT IN THIS CASE, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO FIND IT WITH THE CAMERA, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE AN ON THE SPOT, NO DIG REPAIR.
AND THIS IS ALSO A DEVELOPING CAPABILITY USING A FIBERGLASS SLEEVE AND UPROXY RESIN.
WE CAN RUN IT INTO THE SEWER LINE, TO THE POINT OF THAT REPAIR.
THERE'S A BLADDER THAT INFLATES IT AND PUSHES IT UP AGAINST THE WALL.
AND YOU HAVE A STRUCTURALLY SOUND REPAIR.
THE SECOND PICTURE ON THAT PAGE THREE IS A LOOK AT WHAT THAT REPAIRED SECTION OF PIPE LOOKS LIKE.
YOU SEE THE WHITE AND A BOXY LINER.
THIS IS A LITTLE BETTER LOOK CUT OUT OF SOME PVC PIPE.
AND IT CURES HARD TO BOTH BE WATERPROOF AS WELL AS TO ADD STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY TO THE PIPE.
SO AGAIN, NOTABLE, IN THIS CASE, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE AN IN-HOUSE REPAIR USING OUR OWN TEAM LESS THAN ONE DAY, PROBABLY ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE MATERIAL OF THIS SLEEVE AND THE EPOXY VERSUS IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO A TRADITIONAL OPEN CUT DIG WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT A $20,000 JOB IN A VERY DISRUPTIVE ONE AT THAT TIME TO DIG THAT FRONT.
SO THIS NEW CAPABILITY TO ROUND IT OUT HERE, NOT ONLY DO WE BELIEVE OUR CAMERA TRUCK WILL PAY FOR ITSELF RELATIVELY QUICKLY, BUT IT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT NEW TOOL IN OUR OVERALL ASSET MANAGEMENT APPROACH.
IN THAT APPROACH, WE USE TOOLS LIKE THIS TO INSPECT, MAINTAIN, AND REPAIR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A LOW COST LONG SERVICE LIFE.
UM, AS A NOTE, THIS NEW CAMERA TRUCK AND SOME OF ITS STAFF ARE IN THE PARKING LOT TO THE REAR.
SO AFTER THIS MORNING'S PRESENTATIONS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE STEP OUTSIDE, YOUR TEAM WILL BE OUT THERE TO SH TO SHOW IT TO YOU
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LIVE IN IT PERSONALLY.SO THANK YOU AGAIN, THE TEAM, AND I WILL GLADLY ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AS WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GOING TO START ON PAGE FIVE 15.
THIS IS THE BUREAU OF WATER AND STORE ADMINISTRATION.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 6 46, 45 TO 35.
UH, THE BULK OF THAT IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES AT 3 72 38, 100,001.
16 IS FOR THE MERIT AND COLA 1 95, 190 $5,047 IS THE NET RESULT OF TRANSFERS OF POSITIONS BETWEEN DIVISIONS OF WATER AND SEWER.
SO YOU WILL MOST LIKELY SEE A REDUCTION.
ONE OF THE OTHER DIVISIONS OR BUREAUS THAT I'LL BE DISCUSSING.
UM, HEALTH BENEFITS WERE ADJUSTED FOR $5,667.
UH, OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, 9,536, AND THEN SOME FICA ADJUSTMENTS UNDER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON ACTUAL SPENDING FOR ELECTRICITY, TELEPHONE FACILITY, REPAIR RENOVATION, ET CETERA.
YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE THERE OF $25,000.
THIS IS AUDIO VISUAL SUPPLIES FOR ONE TIME UPGRADE, UM, OF THEIR TRAINING ROOM AND TELECONFERENCE EQUIPMENT UNDER MISCELLANEOUS THAT'S, THE PRO-RATA SHARES.
UM, AND THAT INCREASES TO 97, 1 47 ON PAGE FIVE, 18 IS DEPRECIATION, AND THAT INCREASES $335,000.
PAGE FIVE 20 IS WATER AND SEWER ENGINEERING.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE 3 84, 1 67.
AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES.
1 39, 5 39 IS FOR THEIR MERIT AND COLA.
58,000 5 32 IS FOR THE 27TH PAY.
AND AGAIN, THE RESULT OF PERSONNEL TRANSFERRING BETWEEN DIVISIONS INCREASES.
UM, THIS BUREAU 1 33, 9 94, OPEB INCREASES 44,000 1 64, AS WELL AS HEALTH BENEFITS, 12,187.
CONTRACTUAL SERVICES DECREASES $24,400.
AND THIS IS, UM, DUE TO A DECREASE, UM, REMOVAL OF LINES IN THE METER STATIONS.
SO FORTH FOR DATA SOFTWARE, TELEPHONE, SERVICE SUPPLIES, AND MATERIALS DECREASES $4,225.
AGAIN, THAT'S BASED ON ACTUALS FOR GENERAL OFFICE MAILING AND SO FORTH.
CAPITAL OUTLAY INCREASES AGAIN HERE $25,000 FOR THEIR SHARE, UM, TO UPGRADE THEIR TRAINING ROOM AND TELECONFERENCE EQUIPMENT AND MONITORS ON PAGE 5 25.
THIS IS THE BUREAU OF WATER SEWER MAINTENANCE.
THIS INCREASE IS 9 58, 7 86, UH, 750 3003 86 IS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES OF WHICH 4 35 9 65 IS FOR THE MERIT.
THE 27TH TO PAY IS 1 62, 5 36.
AND HERE YOU'LL SEE A NET DECREASE FOR RESULT OF TRANSFERS BETWEEN DIVISIONS OF 70 2005 61.
HEALTH BENEFITS INCREASES 34,000 8, 78, AS WELL AS OPEB INCREASES 1 29, 6 23.
OVER TIME ALSO INCREASES THE $84,000.
AND THIS IS TO PROVIDE FOR UTILITY CREWS TO COVER THE 24 HOUR OPERATIONS CONTRACTUAL SERVICES INCREASES 4 28, 100, UM, 300,000 OF THAT IS FOR WATERLINE MAINTENANCE, UM, B UM, THE REMOTE.
WE MOVED FIRE HYDRANT PAINTING FROM THE CAPITAL BUDGET TO THE OPERATING.
SO THAT'S NOW COVERED UNDER OPERATING, AND THEN OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INCREASES FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THREE PRESSURE, REDUCING VALVES AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS INCREASED THE $63,000.
THE BULK OF THAT IS BASED ON ACTUALS, UM, 10,700 FOR MEALS, UNIFORM EQUIPMENT, REPAIR PARTS, 50,500, JUST FOR CHEMICALS IN BULK SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH UNDER BUSINESS AND TRAVEL.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF $42,800.
THIS IS FOR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, FUEL, ET CETERA.
AND THEN CAPITAL OUTLAY DECREASES $328,500.
THE BULK OF THAT IS A RESULT OF ONE TIME PURCHASE OF REMOTE CONTROL, WHAT HE JUST SPOKE ABOUT.
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UM, SO OUR INSPECTION CAMERA IN FISCAL YEAR 22, BUT THIS STILL PROVIDES SUFFICIENT FUNDS FOR, UM, THEIR NORMAL YEARLY ANNUAL REPLACEMENT OF, UM, SAUL SHORING, BLOCK SHORING BOXES, ET CETERA.AND ON PAGE 5 32, THE BUREAU OF WATER AND SEWER OPERATIONS.
THIS IS WAITS WATER PROCESSING.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 1 MILLION 9 25, 5 29.
PERSONAL SERVICES INCREASES 5 83, 8 35 OF WHICH 4 59, 4 58 IS FOR THE MERIT INCREASE IN THE COLA.
AND AGAIN, HERE IS A DECREASE FOR THE RESULT OF THE TRANSFERS.
MOVING TRANSFERS OF POSITIONS MOVING AROUND OF 2 0 6, 3 TEEN OPEB INCREASES 1 13, 5 50 AND PEP $18,012.
THERE IS AN INCREASE IN OVERTIME BASED ON THE ACTUALS OF $17,000 UNDER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, SLIGHT INCREASE THERE, 14,000 6 73.
AND THE BULK OF THAT IS FOR BARCODE BARCODING SYSTEM UPGRADE FOR CENTRAL STORES UNDER SUPPLIES, THE MATERIALS.
THIS IS WHERE THE LARGEST INCREASES $1,327 AND 21 CENTS.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS FOR CHEMICALS AND BULK BASED ON ACTUALS AND THE INCREASED COST THAT WE'RE ALL SEEING EVERYTHING.
UM, ON PAGE 5 38, THIS IS WATER PRODUCTION.
2 MILLION, 6 0 4, 4 94, 6 84, 7 92 IS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES.
AGAIN, TO HAVE THAT 2 9, 200 90,000 2 87 IS FOR THE MERIT AND PULL UP 27TH PAY IS 1 0 8, 180 2.
AND THEN THERE AGAIN, THE TRANSFERS OF POSITIONS, 1 28, 8 35 TO THIS DIVISION AS THE COST OF THAT HEALTH BENEFITS INCREASES 50 2005 87 OPEC 53, 50 2002 57, AND THEN PEP AN INCREASE OF 18,000 4 96.
CONTRACTUAL SERVICES INCREASES 1 47, 3 41 70 $4,043 OF THAT IS FOR ELECTRICITY.
AND THAT'S BASED ON ACTUAL EXPENSES THREE AND THEN 50,000 FOR CONTRACTUAL.
UM, EXCUSE ME, NOT CONTRACTUAL COUNT COUNTY FACILITY, REPAIR INNOVATIONS, UM, IT'S FOR FLOORING, UM, ALONG WITH OTHER MAINTENANCE OF VALVES, PUMPS, ET CETERA, 74,000 FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES.
THIS IS FOR THE SKATE OF REPAIRS AND PROCESS MODIFICATIONS OFFSET BY A REDUCTION IN OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, A LOT OR 95,000, UM, OPERATING EQUIPMENT INCREASE FOR PLACEMENT OF KEMBLE METERING, PUMPS AND CENTRIFUGE REPAIRS, 57,000 AND THEN SECURITY SYSTEM AND OTHER EXPENSES, UM, FOR THE CYBER LOCK SYSTEM, ET CETERA, IS INCREASES 84,000 6 73 SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AGAIN INCREASES HERE 3 57, 360 1.
AND THE BULK OF THAT IS FOR THE CHEMICALS AGAIN AT 2 76, 360 1, AS WELL AS EQUIPMENT REPAIR PARTS INCREASED 81,000 BACK BASED ON ACTUALS UNDER EQUIPMENT, YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE HERE, 1 MILLION, $415,000.
UM, A MILLION DOLLARS IS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THE ELEVATED WATER TANKS.
THIS FUNDING WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS TANK PAINTING.
UM, ELECTRONIC PROCESS CONTROL EQUIPMENT INCREASES 15,000 AND THEN LAB EQUIPMENT, UM, FOR PURCHASE OF WATER TESTING OF EQUIPMENT INCREASES 400,000.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS ON THEIR OPERATING BUDGET.
SO, BILL, UM, YOU MENTIONED A TOUR, WE ALL TOOK NOT TOO LONG AGO.
IT SEEMS LIKE NOT TOO LONG AGO, BUT, UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
IT GIVES US GREAT INSIGHT TO WHAT YOUR TEAM DOES EVERY DAY.
UM, AS BUT AS I SIT HERE AND I GO THROUGH THE PAGES AND I'M LOOKING AT THE POSITIONS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF DPW, HOW MANY TOTAL EMPLOYEES? UH, 350.
AND THEN I, IF I UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT HERE ON THIS, A COUPLE OF LAST PAGES WITHIN STAFF, IS IT, ARE WE NOT, ARE WE LOSING SOME PEOPLE? WE MOVING PEOPLE AROUND A COUPLE OF POSITIONS.
WE ARE NOT, YOU, YOU MIGHT'VE SEEN THIS TRANSFER FROM TIME TO TIME.
WE RECLASSIFY A POSITION AND WE RECLASSIFY AND USE A PIN OR A POSITION IN A, IN A MORE NEEDED PLACE.
THEN THAT SHOWS AS A, LIKE A PLANT SUPERINTENDENT.
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LET ME EXPLAIN.THERE IS MULTIPLE INDEXES OR ACCOUNTING DIVISIONS WITHIN WATER AND SEWER FOR THE BUDGET BOOK.
WE LUMP THEM ALL LIKE WATER PROCESSING.
WE USED TO SPLIT OUT A LOT OF THEIR POSITIONS DOWN TO 5%.
SO 5% WOULD BE CHARGED TO ONE ACCOUNT.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO COMBINE THAT AND JUST DO A 50, 50 SPLIT 50 SPLIT BETWEEN WATER ENGINEERING AND 50 SPLIT BETWEEN SEWER ENGINEERING.
IT'S JUST REALLOCATING HOW MUCH OF A PERCENTAGE WE'RE CHARGING OFF TO THIS INDEX.
UM, THANKS COUNCIL QUESTIONS, MR. JAMES RUDIN AND MR. PATEEN.
SO, UH, GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST ONE, DO WE HAVE ANY LEAD PIPES THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE? WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED ANY YET.
AND HERE'S, IS THAT TRUE? YEAH, SO WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF AN INVENTORY, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A REGULATORY REQUIREMENT AND A FEW YEARS TO COME, BUT WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED ANY YET.
WE WERE RELATIVELY YOUNG SYSTEM, WHICH IS TO OUR ADVANTAGE.
WE TALKED OUTSIDE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PACKAGES OF WHEN YOU, UM, OPEN UP A FACILITY AND YOU BUY THE PACKAGES AND OF THE NUMBER OF, UH, I GUESS CUPS.
AND THEN IF YOU THEN GO OVER THOSE HOOKUPS, YOU HAVE TO BUY A WHOLE NOTHER SET OF HOOKUPS.
AND I THINK THAT WAS, WAS LAW.
AND I, AND I THINK YOU, YOU MIGHT WANT TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT YOU TALKED TO ME ABOUT, WHAT YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT THE SITUATION I WAS WORKING ON.
IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE ABOUT A BUSINESS OWNER, WANTING TO EXPAND OR IMPROVE THEIR BUSINESS, THAT LOCATION HAD ALREADY PAID FOR TWO SETS.
THIS IS WHERE YOU BUY, YOU PAY THE CAPITAL INTO, TO BUY THE CAPACITY FOR WATER AND SEWER SERVICE.
AND THAT PROPERTY HAD ALREADY PURCHASED TWO SETS AND WE DO IT BY A FIXTURE COUNT.
SO WE HAD UP TO 60 AND IN DOING THIS RENOVATION WITH SOME NEW SINK AND NEW BATHROOM FACILITIES, IT HAD TAKEN HIM JUST OVER THAT THRESHOLD OF 60, MEANING YOU HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER SET, WHICH THE BASE PRICE FOR THAT IS ABOUT ANOTHER $15,000.
THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL SURCHARGES.
UM, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG EXPENSE IN THIS CASE THOUGH.
UH, MY STAFF WAS ABLE TO JUST LAST NIGHT AND THIS MORNING WORK WITH THAT OWNER, UM, UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HIS PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS.
TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TANK VERSUS A VALVE TOILET AND A PUBLIC VERSUS A PRIVATE RESTROOM AND BRING HIM FROM BEING JUST OVER THAT LINE TO JUST UNDER THAT LINE.
SO IN THIS CASE, UH, THE CAPACITY HAD ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED AT THAT PROPERTY AND THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR ADDITIONAL CAPITAL PURCHASE OF THE CAPACITY JUST HAPPENED THIS MORNING.
AND I THINK GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, MAYBE BEING, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU PURCHASE THINGS IN, IN BLOCKS, BUT MAYBE IF THERE'S AN OVERAGE AND, AND IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ON OUR END TO MAKE A CHANGE, UM, IS THAT MAYBE THEN ONCE YOU PURCHASE LIKE TWO BLOCKS AT 30 OR SOMETHING AND YOU NEED ADDITIONAL THAT THEY'RE PRORATED AND MAYBE BLOCKS OF FIVE.
UM, NOW I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS RUN ON YOUR OWN, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S, BUT THAT'S AN IDEA.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT ON THIS END, BUT I KNOW THAT IT COULD BE A HARDSHIP FOR SOME BUSINESSES.
I'VE HEARD THAT FROM OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT COST OF THEM GETTING HIT WITH ALL OF A SUDDEN, AN ADDITIONAL BILL OF $18,000, BECAUSE THEY'VE, THEY'VE PUT EXTRA BATHROOMS IN OR THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
UM, AND AT SOME POINT THEY'VE ALREADY HAD THE PLANS DRAWN, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH IT.
SO IT'S LIKE, WELL, I'VE GOT TO PAY FOR THIS BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY DONE IT OR IT'S IN THE PLANS.
UM, SO, UM, AND I THINK THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, UM, THE WELLHEADS AND PERRY MEN THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN RECERTIFIED ALSO IN A NUMBER OF YEARS FROM WHAT I'VE READ NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CORRECT OR INCORRECT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN ALMOST 20 YEARS SINCE THEY'VE BEEN RECERTIFIED.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, OR WHO DOES THAT, AND WHEN'S IT GOING TO BE DONE AGAIN, I'M NOT FAMILIAR OR CERTAIN OF THAT TERM RECERTIFIED, AND I GUESS I'M NOT
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AWARE OF IT BEING SOMETHING THAT'S A REQUIREMENT IN THAT THEY'RE PRODUCING THEY'RE FUNCTIONING AND PRODUCING.WE MAINTAIN AND WE UPGRADE PUMPS AND DRIVES AND DO REGULAR, UM, AGAIN, UPGRADE AND MAINTENANCE OF, OF THEM AS FUNCTIONING WELLS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING.
OR MAYBE I'M YOU SHARE WITH US EITHER NOW, OR AT SOME POINT IS WHATEVER YOUR SOURCE OF THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE THAT TERM I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH EITHER.
AND IT MIGHT BE THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT'VE LIKED, BUT I'LL, I'LL GET WITH THE INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, MR. JANITOR, DAN, ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.
SO, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE FUND ITSELF.
AND, UM, WHEN WE VOTED ON NOT THIS COUNCIL WHERE THE LAST ONE WENT BEFORE, VOTED ON THE, THE FEE STRUCTURE AND CHANGING IT.
AND I THINK WE UPDATED IT LAST YEAR.
I THINK IT WAS EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT ALL THE DATA AND SEE IF IT'S STILL OUT HERE.
HAS THAT BEEN DONE LATELY? WHERE ARE WE AS IT ON TRACK, MORE OR LESS ONE? WE ARE IN YEAR TWO OF A, OF A LEGISLATIVE LEE APPROVED FIVE-YEAR MODEST PRICE INCREASE BASED ON THE STUDY IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT CONTINUE ON.
WE WOULD NEED A NEW RATE PACKAGE APPROVED AND IN PLACE BY JULY 1ST, 2025.
SO WE'RE IN YEAR TWO, YEAR THREE WILL COME WITH THE TURN OF THIS FISCAL YEAR FOUR AND FIVE.
UM, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? WELL, SO WHEN, UM, WE HAD THE INITIAL, UM, RATE CHANGE, UH, 6, 7, 6, 7 YEARS AGO, UM, WE BROUGHT IN THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS, THEY LOOKED AT IT, THEY CAN TAKE IT, UM, UH, THERE, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO ILLUSTRATE AND SHOWCASE THE, THE DEFICIT.
WE WERE RUNNING A CONSIDERABLE DEFICIT AT THAT TIME.
UM, THEN WE INSTITUTED THOSE RATE CHANGES.
THEY CAME BACK FIVE YEARS LATER, LOOKED AT, LOOK AT WHAT THE GAP WAS AND THEN LOOKED AT WHAT OUR PROJECTED PRICE INCREASES WERE.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY PUT IN A MUCH MORE MODEST ABOUT 4% A YEAR.
SO YES, EACH TIME WE, WHEN WE COME BACK TO DO THOSE, THOSE, UM, THOSE ASSESSMENTS, UM, THAT'S REALLY, WHAT'S DRIVING THE, UM, THE NEW RATE CHANGE AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THEY COME UP WITH, OKAY.
THAT WE THINK YOU NEED TO INCREASE IT BY 2% A YEAR, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING BACK AND THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING, LOOKING FORWARD.
SO, UM, AND THAT IS THE, UM, THIS ADMINISTRATION'S PLAN.
AND I DON'T THINK IN THE FUTURE ADMINISTRATION'S PLANS IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, EVERY FIVE YEARS, LOOK BACK, LOOK FORWARD AND HAVE COUNCIL APPROVAL AND GIVE OUR, OUR CITIZENS, UH, AN INCOMPETENCE THAT, THAT THE RATES ARE, ARE, ARE FUNDING, UH, WATERS OR OPERATIONS WITH SUFFICIENT RESERVES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO NOW HAVE A 90 DAY RESERVE, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED BY, UM, BY THE CONSULTANTS AS WELL AS BY THE BOND RATING AGENCIES.
UM, AND WE ARE IN A POSITION NOW WHERE OUR RATES ARE, ARE INCREASING ACTUALLY LESS THAN CPI.
UM, SO, UM, IF WE, WE HAVE KIND OF FIXED THAT PROBLEM.
THAT WAS THE NEXT QUESTION ABOUT WHERE IS IT? SO THANK YOU.
UM, ROBBIE, WE, WE MADE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE IN 2014, 15, AND, UM, THEY'VE PAID OFF IN THE LONG RUN FOR US MOVING INTO THE FUTURE AS LONG AS WE UP WITH IT.
UM, ANYONE ELSE MR. TIBBS, THE CHEMICAL BREAK IS, I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN PREACHING AGRICULTURE.
HAVE YOU BUILT THAT INTO THE RATE FOR THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED THAT THESE QUESTIONS ARE NOT GOING TO COME DOWN AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL LOOK AT THAT AND ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THE CHEMICALS? I, I THINK YES, TO ALL THREE THOUGH, THE PRICES ARE GOING UP.
UM, WE'VE BUILT THAT INTO THIS BUDGET BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY WE CAN ANSWER THAT, THAT NEED THAT FORECAST AS BEST WE CAN.
AND AS MY CHIEF OF OPERATIONS WILL TELL YOU, WE, WE DO RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH, WITH SUPPLY, UM, THAT THERE IS LIMITED.
SO WE W WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU CAN'T GET THESE CHEMICALS? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, AND I, AND I LOOKED TO LARRY AGAIN, MY CHIEF OF OPERATIONS TO HAVE A PLAN, HAVE YOUR BACKUP SOURCE AND HAVE THE BACKUP TO THE BACKUP.
SORRY, THE PROBLEM IS WITH AGRICULTURE.
IF YOU CAN'T GET THEM EITHER, AND YOU HAVE TO BUY ADDITIONAL CHEMICALS, OR, AND SOMETIMES THOSE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO GET.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, BILL AND JOE, WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE I'M NOT HERE TODAY, BUT JUST SEND ME SOME SORT OF A SYNOPSIS ON WHAT IT DOES COST US TO PRODUCE POTABLE WATER PER THOUSAND GALLON OR WHATEVER.
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UM, MR. SCOTT, UH, THANK YOU.UM, THE STUDY THAT YOU ALL JUST REFERENCED FORUM OPERATING RATES, CORRECT.
UH, WELL, THIS PAST TIME WE LOOKED AT OPERATING AND, AND THE, UH, THE HOOK-UP RATES AS WELL.
AND THEN WE ADJUST THEM, UH, PRIOR TO THAT, THE HOOK-UP RATES WERE INCREASING BY 6% PER YEAR.
THEY LOOKED AT THAT AND WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO REDUCE THAT TO FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT, I BELIEVE.
UM, SO WE LOOKED AT OPERATING AND, AND, AND APPLE.
I HAVE BEEN STUNNED SIX YEARS AGO WHEN WE LOOKED AT OPERATING, BUT THEN THIS TIME TWO, WE LOOKED AT, WE LOOKED AT BOTH AND WE'RE ABLE TO, WELL, AGAIN, THE WHOLE IDEA OF WATER ABSOR IS THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WEREN'T CHARGING PEOPLE.
UM, YOU KIND OF EXACTLY THEIR FAIR SHARE.
YOU DON'T, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE COST TO RUN THE SYSTEM, BUT FROM LIKE AN OUTBREAK.
I WASN'T SURE THAT THE CAPITALIST SIDE CHARGES AT ALL HAD BEEN LOOKED AT RECENTLY, SO PLAY IT.
UM, WHICH TAKES ME ONTO THE FURTHER QUESTION.
UM, HOW MANY CONNECTIONS ARE BASICALLY REQUIRED A YEAR TO SUPPORT THE DEBT SERVICE BUILDING? IS THERE A NUMBER OF QUANTIFIED WE USED TO USE? I WISH COUNCILMAN WAGNER WAS HERE BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
YOU CAN ASK THAT QUESTION AFTER THE LUNCH.
UH, AND IT SEEMED TO ME IT WAS AROUND 1100.
IF I REMEMBER WAS REQUIRED, BASICALLY IN A WALL MODEL THAT WE HAD DEVELOPED.
DO WE HAVE A NUMBER LIKE THAT NOW? AND ARE WE MEETING THAT OR WERE TO TWO PARTS MORE ON THE ORDER OF 500? I UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER YOU CITED WAS, I'VE HEARD IT CALLED THE OLD HAY DAYS OF DEVELOPMENT IN HARFORD COUNTY, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE KNOW.
THAT'S WHAT WAS USED IN OUR PROJECTIONS AND THE FISCAL OR THE FINANCIAL MODEL.
AND THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE ADDING AT LEAST IN RECENT YEARS, ABOUT 500.
AND WHEN WE DO COLLECT HOOKUP FEES, THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THEY GENERALLY USE FOR THAT, THAT, UH, SYSTEM PRESERVATION CAPACITY, UM, RELATED DEBT, THAT SERVICE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID ADD THOUGH, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE PAST WAS WE ADDED THIS, A NEW KIND OF ASSET RE-INVESTMENT CHARGE TO KIND OF MAINTAIN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THAT GIVES US NOW ANOTHER REVENUE SOURCE TO DEAL WITH THAT NON EXPANSIONARY KIND OF STUFF, AS THE SYSTEM BECOMES MORE MATURE AND YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE JUST WANT TO GET ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REPLACING PUMP PUMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO NOW WE DO HAVE A DIFFERENT, UM, I WOULD SAY A MORE DIVERSE RATHER THAN STRUCTURE SO THAT WE, UM, AS WE DEVELOP AS A SYSTEM WHERE IT CAN MEET THOSE NEEDS, BUT WE CAN ONLY USE THOSE, UM, THOSE THINGS, THOSE DEDICATED REVENUES TYPES OF CALLS.
AND WE DO HAVE ADEQUATE RESERVES IN PLACE SO THAT IF YOU'VE HAD A, A YEAR WHERE YOU JUST GONNA HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, WE STILL HAVE THE RESERVES IN PLACE FROM PRIOR YEARS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS.
UM, AND LOOKING AT PRIOR YEAR EXPENDITURES, IT APPEARS THAT THE WHITE FOR CARTER SUBDISTRICT COST JUMPED TWO YEARS AGO.
IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT JOB? DID WE EXPAND THAT SUB DISTRICT AREA? WAS THAT THE BOROUGH, THE DELTA, WHO DOES THE TREATMENT AT ALL INCREASE THE COST BACK ONTO THE SEWER SYSTEM? WHAT IS IT JUST A NATURAL INCREASE IN COSTS TO OPERATE? CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION THERE? I'M NOT AWARE OF A PARTICULAR JUMP IN COST OR A DRIVER FOR IT? UM, IT WAS RUNNING ABOUT 80,000 A YEAR BASED ON WHAT I CAN SEE HERE IN THE BUDGET BOOK.
AND THEN IN FISCAL 21, IT JUMPED TO 180.
THEN IN FISCAL 22, YOU WENT OVER 200,000 IN AN ANNUAL COST.
I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME REASON WHY THE COST WENT 80 TO 180 AND ONE YEAR.
AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE GOING FORWARD BASED ON WHAT I CAN SEE HERE AT THE BUDGET PLAN.
I'M GOING TO LOOK TO THE BACK ROAD.
THE, UH, MY CHIEF OF ENGINEERING HAS JOINED US AND HE ALSO SITS ON THE DELTA BOARD.
SO HE, IF ANYONE WOULD HAVE INSIGHT TO THAT, I HAVE ANYTHING TO,
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THE BIGGEST CONCERN, THE DELTA RIGHT NOWDID THEY END UP WITH THEIR OWN RATE, SEPARATE FROM THE COUNTY'S CUSTOMER RATE, WE ADOPTED A RATE FOR THEM SPECIFIC TO THEIR, THEIR SITUATION.
UM, IS THAT A CONSULTANT? I THINK LOOKED AT THAT AS WELL.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME.
I BELIEVE IT IS A SEPARATE RATE
AND THAT SHOULD BE THERE IN THE LEAD RATE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED BY THE I'M GOING TO SAY TIMING WISE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS INCREASE THAT WAS OCCURRING BECAUSE THEY CHANGED SOMETHING IS PICKED UP IN THIS LAST RATE INCREASE.
SO THAT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS EQUITY BETWEEN THEM AND THE LOWER HALF OF THIS COUNTY AND WHO'S PAYING FOR, WHEREAS IT ALL GET BLENDED ULTIMATELY, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER.
I THINK WHEN THE, WHEN THE CONSULTANTS LOOKED AT IT, I MEAN, THEY, THEY ARE, THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A UNIQUE SITUATION, BUT FROM A, FROM AN ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, UM, PUTTING IT NECESSARILY IN THE SEPARATE BUCKETS AND THE LIKE WAY IN THAT CASE, EITHER THE FUND IS THERE, BUT WHEN THE THERE'S OFFICE LOOK AT THE PLAN, THEY'RE SAYING, OKAY, YEAH, THIS IS THESE, THESE ARE THE RATES.
UM, THEY'RE KIND OF IN A UNIQUE SITUATION, WOULDN'T HAVE OTHER, AND A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES KIND OF OUR COUNTY SYSTEM KIND OF HAD THIS SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR ONE MAIN SYSTEM.
AND THEN FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU HAVE SOME, SOME ALL SHOOT SYSTEMS WITHIN THE ONE IN JARRETTSVILLE WAS WELL
AND WHEN I WAS IN CAROL, WE HAD SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN ALL THEM.
SO YOU, YOU IN DISTINCT WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO, UH, UM, UM, BLEND THE RATES, AND IT'S NOT AS IF IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT IT STANDS ON ITS OWN, BUT YOU ARE RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE THE DAR DIFFERENCES.
SO IT DOESN'T AS IF YOU JUST USE THE SAME EXACT CURRENT MR. JOHNSON.
UM, I SEE ON HERE UNDER, UH, I GUESS IT'S PAGE 5 0 9, UH, UNDER MISCELLANEOUS, UH, IT'S $180,000, UH, FROM, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, LIKE, UH, HEAVY GRAY, SO A WATER PLANT AND A DELTA BEAR.
UM, HOW MUCH ASSISTANCE DO WE GET FROM, FROM THOSE TWO? AND IS THAT, IS THAT, UM, NUMBER GOING TO CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS? I SEE THAT IT'S, IT STAYED CONSISTENT FROM 22 TO 23, BUT IS IT GOING TO CHANGE, UH, IN THE UPCOMING YEARS, WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO AT LEAST NOT FOR THIS YEAR.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE, THE, THE NUMBER WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE PAY OUT FOR SERVICES THAT OTHERS PROVIDE TO US.
SO, SO HOW MUCH, UM, HOW MUCH OF A SERVICE DOES, UM, HAVE DEGREES WATER PLANT PROVIDE FOR, FOR THE COUNTY? WE USED TO REGULARLY PURCHASE WATER FROM THEM, AND THIS WAS THE PLACE THAT WE HAD THE LINE ITEM FOR BUYING THAT WATER WE HAVE SINCE STOPPED THAT ARRANGEMENT.
SO WE ARE NO LONGER PAYING THEM TO PURCHASE WATER.
WE DO HAVE SOME FACILITY SHARING MECHANISMS IN
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PLACE, BUT WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A STABLE AND AN ACCURATE NUMBER FOR THIS YEAR.AND, UM, FOR, AND IS THIS THE PART WHERE WE'RE AT? UM,
UM, UM, SO I, I SEE, UH, ALSO, UM, I'M SORRY, YOU GOT ME YESTERDAY, TONY.
UM, I SEE, UH, THAT FROM 20 TO 23 FOR, UH, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, UH, IT'S DOUBLED OVER AND I'M ON PAGE 5 0 6.
COULD YOU, UH, AND I HATE TO BE THAT GUY, BUT COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT AGAIN? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALLY TOUCHED ON THAT.
WHY, WHY SUCH A, A LARGE JUMP? WELL, I, I CAN, AND IN BRIEF, AND, AND LET ME START WITH LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY DOUBLED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN, AN AUDITED AMOUNT OR WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SPENT AND THEN COMPARING IT TO THE PROPOSED AMOUNT.
AND I HAVE A, SO WHAT I CAN DO IS TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IS CAPTURED IN THAT CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
IT'S SO HARD TO ADDRESS THE PAST, BUT FOR MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT.
AND JUST, JUST BRIEFLY, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, I'M TAKING MR. SCOTT'S THUNDER.
UM, SO INCLUDED IN, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE PROFILED.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE.
SOME OF THE BIGGEST TICKET ITEMS. IT INCLUDES THE COST OF ELECTRICITY AT 3.7 MILLION, THE COST OF THE FACILITY, REPAIRS AND RENOVATION.
AND THAT'S ACROSS THE SIX PLANTS, THE TWO BIG ONES, THE FOUR OTHER SMALL ONES, AND THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM HVAC TO FLOORING TO PAINTING THEM.
SO FACILITY REPAIR AND RENOVATION AT 2.8 MILLION, AND THEN THERE'S OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHICH INCLUDES SOME OF OUR CONTRACTED MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES THAT, UM, CLEARING OF RIGHTS OF WAY, AND VALVE MAINTENANCE, AS WELL AS THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR BIOSOLIDS, THOSE BIG PILES OF SOLIDS AT SOD RUN AT THE END THAT WE HAVEN'T PAID TO GET RID OF.
AND THAT'S A TOTAL OF 3.9 MILLION.
SO JUST THOSE THREE THINGS I CITED AS FAR AS BIG BUCKETS, GET US TO THIS $10.4 MILLION.
IT'S JUST, IT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS FOR A LARGE UTILITY.
SO, SO FOR, LET'S SAY 21, UM,
UH, SO WAS THAT THE, THE, THE MONEY THAT YOU SPENT OR IS THAT THE MONEY THAT YOU ASKED FOR THAT'S THE ACTUAL FIPSE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT WAS SPENT? SO THEN YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE SPENDING $14 MILLION THIS YEAR.
PART OF IT IS THAT WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR COST INCREASES.
AND SO IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR, BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING THE COST OF CHEMICALS AND ELECTRICITY AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE BUY ARE FUELED BY THOSE COST DRIVERS.
SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING COSTS GOING UP.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WITH PERFECT CLARITY IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, WHAT WE'LL SPEND ALL OF THAT OR NOT.
I, I, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MR. SCOTSMAN HITTING ON THIS, UH, AND YOU GUYS WEREN'T HERE YESTERDAY, BUT HE WAS HITTING ON THIS YESTERDAY, THAT YOU MISSED IT YESTERDAY.
THAT, THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A LARGE DISPARITY, BECAUSE FOR INSTANCE, YOU, YOU ASKED FOR, UH, UH, $13 MILLION LAST YEAR, BUT YOU ONLY SPENT 7 MILLION OF THAT.
SO, UH, WHY THE LARGE DISPARITY OF THESE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BUT YOU'RE ONLY SPENDING X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
AND WE W AND MR. SCOTT SAYS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING THIS, NOT, NOT JUST IN YOUR DIVISION, BUT ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO IT, IT, IT, IT'S BECOMING A RE A RED FLAG, UM, THAT THERE'S SUCH A DISPARITY YOU ASKED FOR SO MUCH, BUT THEN YOU SPEND SO LITTLE, AND THEN THAT MONEY GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO IS THERE A REASON FOR IT, FOR THAT? AND IN THIS CASE, THE MONEY WOULD GO BACK INTO THE SPACE IN THE WINTER SORT LINE.
AND IF I COULD ADD, UM, PART OF THE BUSINESS PRACTICE THAT WE USE IS THAT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE WORST AND HOPE FOR THE BEST, RIGHT.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS ANTICIPATE
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WHAT THOSE VIEWS ARE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZING THAT YOU'VE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT HER INTO A FUND IN PARTICULAR IS.WE KNOW THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE STAYING IN THAT ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT TO RUN SHORT.
WE DON'T WANT, WE WANT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE RESPONSIVE AND THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AND WHERE WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THINGS EVEN MORE UNANTICIPATED, IF WE CAN.
SO THAT'S THE APPROACH WE USE.
AND I WOULD ALSO PROBABLY ADD THAT THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE, WE KEEP THAT EXTRA FUNDS IN THERE IN CASE WE NEED TO USE OUTSIDE SERVICES.
IN ORDER TO PERFORMANCE, WE HAVE VERY GOOD STAFF KIND OF THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT WHERE SOMEONE'S EITHER KIND OF ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS IN IN-HOUSE.
BUT AGAIN, IF, IF, IF THE SYSTEM COMES TO IT AND YOU NEED TWO PEOPLE TO OPERATE IN A SYSTEM, OR WE NEED TO GO OUTSIDE FOR ADDITIONAL WORK, IF THAT'S THE CASE AGAIN, WHERE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS AS BEST WE CAN.
AND WE'VE BEEN WITH CURRENT RESOURCES.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, MR. TIBBS, GOING BACK BY THE SHOP.
I KNOW AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION TO TRYING TO PUT INTO THE CAPITAL BUDGET, A MACHINE THAT WILL ACTUALLY PALLETIZERS AND GET THEM OUT.
I GET LETTERS IN THE MAIL, ALL WAS GONE WITH BIOSOLIDS TELEPHONE ON YOUR FIELD ORIENTED, PAID FOR IS THE HALLWAY.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT PAYING FOR YOUR, OH, THAT'S IT.
AND IT IS IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET IN THE OUT YEARS.
NOT, NOT ANY FUNDING THIS YEAR, BUT A FEW YEARS OUT IS THE MONEY TO DO JUST THAT IT WOULD BE CALLED THE BIOSOLIDS DRAWING, WHICH, WHICH TURNS IT INTO A CLASS A AND THEN IT CAN BE EITHER PELLETIZED OR IT CAN BE DIRECTLY APPLIED OR HANDING OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
IT GIVES YOU MORE OPTIONS FOR DISPOSAL.
WELL, I REALIZE THAT AS WE'RE REGULATIONS COME DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE COMING EVERY YEAR, BIGGER AND BETTER, AND IT'S GOING TO COST YOU MORE MONEY TO DO THESE THINGS.
AND I'LL GIVE, THANKS TO MY CHIEF OF ENGINEERING DAY OF PROGRAM HAS BEEN SAYING THAT VERY THING TO ME FOR YEARS NOW.
AND WE DO HAVE THAT, THAT WEDGE BUILT INTO OUR, OUR CAPITAL L YEARS.
AND THANKS MR. TIBBS, ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE A QUICK SPOKEN SUMMARY AND THEN GO TO A COUPLE OF PROJECTS TO HIGHLIGHT OUR EFFORTS, AND THEN OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS THAT I HOPE IS A WAY TO GET THROUGH THIS.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET YEAR 20 30, 20 23, THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR, WE'RE REQUESTING A $3 MILLION APPROPRIATIONS FOR WATER PROJECTS, 10 MILLION FOR SEWER PROJECTS AND 2 MILLION FOR MISCELLANEOUS.
SO OUR TOTAL CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST FOR 2023 IS 15 MILLION.
IF WE CAN GO TO PAGE 3 53, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT TWO WATER PROJECTS, UM, ABINGTON WATER TREATMENT, PLANT SWITCH GEAR, GENERATOR UPGRADES.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS FOR THE DESIGN AND BUILD OF A NEW SWITCH GEAR ON A BACKUP GENERATOR SYSTEM AT THE ABINGTON WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THAT'S OUR MAIN BIG WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT YOU ALL SAW.
UH, THE CURRENT ONE IS AT THE END OF ITS USEFUL SERVICE LICE LIFE SPARE AND REPAIR PARTS ARE BECOMING DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN.
WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE POWER FEEDS THROUGH TWO SEPARATE OLDER SWITCH GEARS.
I'LL PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND MAKE THAT OPERATE WELL.
AND WITH THE BACKUP GENERATOR, AGAIN, BEING PREPARED FOR ANY CASE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE WATER SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
UH, SO THIS YEAR'S APPROPRIATION IS, UM, FIRST SOME CONSTRUCTION COSTS ADDITIONAL COSTS BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND UPDATED COST ESTIMATES.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT SCHEDULE, WE'RE AT ABOUT 50% DESIGN AND WE DO EXPECT TO START CONSTRUCTION, AT LEAST IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT ONE, I CAN GO TO THE NEXT WATER PROJECT.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS ON PAGE 3 57, THE OAK GROVE BOOSTER STATION.
THIS IS A DEVELOPER PROJECT FOR WHICH THE COUNTY WE WILL HAVE SOME COST SHARE.
UM, IT'S THE SUBDIVISION NOW KNOWN AS RIDGELY'S RESERVE.
THEY ARE AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
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THEY'RE BUILDING A BOOSTER STATION.WE'RE ASKING THEM TO UPSIZE IT AND INCLUDE WOODBRIDGE SO THAT WE CAN DECOMMISSION THAT OLD WATER BOOSTER STATION.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WILL PAY THE COUNTIES WILL PAY A SHARE FOR THAT COUNTY REQUESTED CAPABILITY.
UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS APPROPRIATION FOR THE APPROPRIATE, UM, COUNTY SHARE OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
IF YOU LOOK TO THE SCHEDULE, WE ARE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF, OF THAT PUBLIC WORKS UTILITY AGREEMENT.
THIS IS DRIVEN BY THE DEVELOPER.
SO WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THAT, BUT WE DO EXPECT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD TO START THAT CONSTRUCTION, THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR OF 23, OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO TWO SEWER PROJECTS.
THE FIRST ONE IS PAGE 3 87 SOD RUN FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THIS IS PART OF PLAN, REGULAR IMPROVEMENTS TO EXTEND THE USEFUL LIFE OF THIS ASSET.
SOD RUN AS OUR PRIMARY WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BY ANOTHER 10 TO 20 YEARS FOR THOSE IMPORTANT TWO PROCESS STEPS.
THOSE STEPS ARE THIS, AND WE'RE WE'RE APPROPRIATING CONSTRUCTION MONEY FOR TWO SPECIFIC UPGRADES, UH, DIGEST OR UPGRADES, WHICH PART OF THOSE UPGRADES IS TO GENERATE MORE METHANE GAS TO FUEL A FUTURE DRAWING CAPABILITIES.
SO WE'RE LOOKING A COUPLE OF YEARS AHEAD, THIS WILL ENABLE DRAWING AT A LOWER COST IN THE FUTURE OR THE OTHER ONE IS A PRIMARY CLARIFIER UPGRADE.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT SCHEDULE THAT THE DIGESTER DESIGN IS DONE, UM, WE EXPECT TO START CONSTRUCTION IN FISCAL YEAR 23, AND THAT MAY BE A TWO YEAR PROJECT.
THE CLARIFIER DESIGN IS UNDERWAY AND WE MAY START CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 23.
AND THAT, THAT AGAIN, MAYBE A MULTIPLE YEAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
THE SECOND AND LAST PROJECT IS THE VERY NEXT PAGE THREE 80 SOD RUN ULTRAVIOLET DISINFECTION PROJECT.
UM, SO DISINFECTION IS THE FINAL TREATMENT STEP AT SOD.
RON, BEFORE WE TREAT, BEFORE WE DISCHARGE OUR TREATED WATER BACK TO THE BUSH RIVER, WE WANT TO REPLACE THE CHLORINE GAS DISINFECTION WITH AN ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT SYSTEM.
UM, IT'S BOTH A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.
WE NO LONGER HAVE TO MANAGE STORE OR HANDLE TWO TON CHLORINE GAS CYLINDERS.
UM, AND IT'S COST-EFFECTIVE CHANGE, WHICH WE'RE ESPECIALLY SEEING WHAT THE PRICE OF CHEMICALS, INCLUDING CHLORINE GOING UP.
SO NOW WE'RE JUST PAYING FOR ELECTRICITY TO RUN THE UV DISINFECTION LIGHT.
UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO APPROPRIATE CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT DESIGN IS ESSENTIALLY DONE AT 95% AND WE'RE PLANNING TO START CONSTRUCTION IN FISCAL YEAR 23.
WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE OR OTHER PROJECTS.
SO JUST, JUST IN GENERAL BILL FOR ME, I NOTICED ON PAGE 360 6, IT SAYS PARAMIN WELL FIELD IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT'S PART OF ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THOSE WEALTH FIELDS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR NOTHING IN THIS YEAR, RIGHT? THE NEXT APPROPRIATION WE HAVE PLANNED IS OUT IN 2025 FOR SOME CONSTRUCTION THAT I'M GOING TO LOOK OVER MY LEFT SHOULDER, SAY, WHAT'S THE NEXT THING? UM,
UPGRADES, SMALL BUILDINGS, SMALL BRICK BUILDINGS.
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OKAY.ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CAPITAL MR.
I CAN, BUT SINCE I HAVE AN EXPERT IN THE ROOM, I'M GOING TO ASK DAVE BERG TOO, BECAUSE HE MANAGES THAT AS PART OF HIS ROLE AS, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UH, PAGE 3 84, THE OAKLAND MANOR DROP AREA.
SO WE'RE REALLY ON BOARD WAITING FOR AGREEMENT TO THAT.
PUT IN THE AIR, UM, ESSENTIALLY FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT DIDN'T GO FORWARD.
ANYONE ELSE SEEING NO ONE ELSE.
UM, AND I GUESS THIS FINISHES UP FOR THIS SESSION.
WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND BE BACK AT TWO.
I HOPE YOU HAD A GREAT BREAK FROM THIS MORNING.
I'M JUST GOING TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE AUDIO PORTION OF THIS SESSION IS BEING LIVE STREAMED AND WILL BE ARCHIVED ON TO COUNCIL WEBSITE, UH, WITH THAT, UH, MR. ST.
GOOD TO SEE YOU SEE YOU AS WELL IN DIFFERENT SEAT.
NOW WITH THE MICROPHONE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO START ON PAGE 2 22.
THERE'S A TREASURY TAB, AND THIS IS THE OFFICE OF THE TREASURE.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 1 28, 33.
ALL OF THAT IS RELATED TO PERSONAL SERVICES.
59, 6 47 FOR THE MERIT AND COLA 23, 1 35 FOR THE 27TH PAY $7,300 FOR HEALTH BENEFITS AND AN INCREASE OF 13, 5 75 FOR OPEC.
IF YOU TURN THE PAGE TWO TO 24, YOU'RE COUNTING INCREASES 1 36, 9 0 7.
AND AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS IMPERSONAL SERVICES.
UM, 1 38, 1 26 IS FOR THE MERIT AND COLA 51 9 32 IS FOR THE 27TH PAY.
THERE WERE SOME CHANGES IN HEALTH BENEFITS ALONG WITH THE INCREASE FOR A COST OF FOUR INCREASED COST OF 41, 3 53, OPEB INCREASES 34, 3 93 AND PEP $4,300.
THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES OF $650 IN MISSES FOR SEVERAL THINGS, FINANCIAL AUDIT, OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BACK.
SO ON PAGE 2 28, YOUR REVENUE COLLECTIONS INCREASES THREE 40 TO 3 96.
AGAIN, UH, THE BULK OF THAT, ALL OF IT IS IMPERSONAL SERVICES.
18 7 80 IS FOR TEMPORARY SALARIES TO PROVIDE FOR SEASONAL HELP.
27,000 9 62 IS THE MERIT AND COLA.
28, 20 $8,024 IS FOR THE 27TH PAY.
THERE IS A NET RESULT OF FULL-TIME STAFF.
THEY LEAVE THAT CAME FROM WATER AND SEWER, JUST THE TRANSFER OF STAFF AT A COST OF ONE 30 TO 130, 2050 $4.
PENSIONS WERE ADJUSTED FOR AN INCREASE OF 13, 9, 19 OPEB INCREASED COST AREA, 25, 5 39, AND THEN SOME FICA ADJUSTMENTS.
THERE WERE SOME REALLOCATIONS OF FUNDS BASED ON ACTUALS, VERY MINIMAL FOR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND BUSINESSES TRAVEL TURN TO PAGE 2 31.
THIS IS WATER AND SEWER ACCOUNTING, AND THIS IS PAID THROUGH THE WATER AND SEWER ENTERPRISE FUND.
UM, PERSONAL SERVICES INCREASES $7,605, BUT IT'S THE NET RESULT OF TEMPORARY FUNDING ELIMINATED BASED ON ACTUAL SPEND EXPENDITURES OF 37,500, THE MERIT INCREASE FOR COST OF 77,000 706 27 PAY 29,000 TO 12.
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ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES MOVED OUT FOR A NET RESULT OF 20 NEGATIVE 20,000 1 96, OPEB INCREASES 19,000 2 82, PEP $8,900 IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.EXCUSE ME, THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 26,003 20.
THIS IS WHERE THE NEW BILLING SOFTWARE, THE ANNUAL LICENSE FOR THAT WILL BE PAID OUT OF THAT WE JUST PURCHASED OR JUST RECEIVED.
UM, AND THEN SUPPLIES, A MATERIALS INCREASES 84,990 MISSES, UM, COSTS TO, UM, FOR COMMERCIAL PRINTING AND OFFICE MAILING, UM, BASED ON THE MAILING BID AND THE POSTAGE INCREASE.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CRAPPY.
SO YOU JUST WANT TO JUST, UH, HIT ON A COUPLE OF KEY THINGS THAT TREASURY IS DOING, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS MADE CLEAR SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE COUNTY NEVER, UH, NEVER, NEVER DID SHUT DOWN.
AND OF COURSE, TREASURY WAS CERTAINLY A PART OF THAT ALL THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC AND EVEN, UM, AND NOW AS WE CONTINUE AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY INDICATIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES, THE STATE DEFINITELY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD LUCK GETTING PEOPLE ON THE PHONE, GOOD LUCK GETTING THAT LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.
BUT I THINK HERE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, AND I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT ON, ON TREASURY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT STRONG CUSTOMER SERVICE.
UM, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE A LOT OF TIMES, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOME WHEN YOU CALL TREASURY IT'S MAYBE ABOUT TAXES OR PAYING SOMETHING.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE BEST CALL, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NEED HELP FILLING OUT THEIR SENIOR VETERANS TAX CREDIT OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY TAX OR, OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING THROUGH TO LIVE, UM, LIVE PEOPLE, UH, ONE AREA IN PARTICULAR, LIKE THE HIGHLIGHT IS THE TURNAROUND WE HAVE WITH PROPERTY TRANSACTIONS, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR LEAN SHEETS, OUR DEEDS, AND, YOU KNOW, GO AND TALK TO ANYBODY IN THE REAL ESTATE, UM, COMMUNITY.
AND, AND THEY'LL TELL YOU JUST HOW QUICK THE TURNAROUND IS FOR US TO DO THAT.
WORKING WITH THE CLERK OF THE COURT.
UM, WE'RE GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT A DAY OR SO OTHER COUNTIES WEEKS, UM, AND IT REALLY DOES, UM, UH, KIND OF GUM UP THE PROCESS.
UM, ANOTHER AREA, UM, ONE OF THE TWO TO NOTE WAS EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, THE COMPANY THAT DOES OUR TIME, UH, AND TIMEKEEPING, UM, UH, SOFTWARE CHRONIS WENT DOWN WITH THE BIG, UM, UH, CYBER ATTACK AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, THEY WERE, THEY WERE DOWN, YOU KNOW, OUR PAYROLL STAFF WORKING WITH ICT AND HUMAN RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, MADE IT SO THAT WE NEVER MISSED A, WE NEVER MISSED A PAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE, WERE GETTING THEIR PAY, THEY WERE GETTING THEIR OVERTIME OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GETTING SHIFT DIFFERENTIAL, ALL OF THAT.
AND, UM, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE.
UM, A LOT OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS DID NOT HAVE THAT SAME RESULT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I KNEW WHEN I TOOK THIS JOB IS YOU DON'T MESS UP PAYROLL.
YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME THINGS MAY BE, YOU KNOW, NO MAY OR MAY NOT CATCH IT, BUT, UH, DON'T MESS UP PAYROLL.
AND SO REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO JUST, UM, HIGHLIGHT OUR STAFF THAT DOES THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS TRULY COMMENDABLE.
UH, I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT VACANCY, SO RIGHT NOW TREASURY HAS TWO VACANCIES.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FILLING THEM.
UH, WE JUST COMPLETED THOSE INTERVIEWS.
SO HOPEFULLY, UM, WE'LL FIND, UH, TWO CANDIDATES.
THOSE ARE FOR OUR CLERK POSITIONS, UM, OUR ENTRY LEVEL POSITION.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THEN WE'LL BE, WE WILL BE FULLY, UM, FULLY STAFF.
I DO THINK THAT THIS, UH, A PAY PLAN TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE PUT FORWARD IS GOING TO HELP US, UM, UH, TO BE, UM, COMPETITIVE AND HELP WITH OUR RECRUITMENT AND OUR RETENTION.
UM, YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM OTHER OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND, UH, OUTSIDE AGENCIES, IT'S A VERY TIGHT LABOR MARKET, UH, BUT I THINK THIS WILL HELP US KEEP UP, KEEP FULLY STAFFED SO WE CAN SERVE THE CITIZENS.
UM, TREASURY HAS BEEN KIND OF OUT IN FRONT WITH A LOT OF SUCCESSION PLANNING.
UM, I WAS HERE A WEEK OR SO AGO TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE RETIREMENTS.
SO TRYING TO KEEP ON TOP OF, OF WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE RETIREMENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING TRAINING INDIVIDUALS, WE'VE STARTED AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
WE'VE ACTUALLY HIRED SEVERAL OF THOSE INTERNS THAT HAVE NOW MOVED ON TO FULL COUNTY EMPLOYMENT.
UM, A LOT OF PROMOTING FROM WITHIN A LOT OF CROSS TRAINING, UH, AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, TO FILL ANY OF THOSE GAPS, UM, EITHER WHEN THEY'RE PLANNED THROUGH RETIREMENT OR WHEN THEY'RE UNPLANNED, BECAUSE, UM, SOMEONE MOVES ON TO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
UM, OUR FINANCIAL REPORTING CONTINUES TO BE STRONG.
UM, OUR, OUR ANNUAL, UM, COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, UH, UH, AS YOU KNOW, FROM YOUR BRIEFINGS WITH CRYSTAL AND WITH, UM, CLIFTON LARSON ALLEN, UH, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CLEAN AUDITS.
WE'VE HAD THE EXTRA WORK, UH, PAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF A LOT OF THIS FEDERAL FUNDING.
UM, THIS ARPA FUNDING IS WE WERE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IS DEFINITELY, UH, A MORE CUMBERSOME THAN MAYBE THE CARER'S MONEY WAS.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF REPORTING KIM AND I ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME DOING, DOING THAT AND, UH, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADHERE TO, UM, ALL OF THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE A MUCH MORE IN-DEPTH THAN I THINK YOU WOULD INITIALLY THINK.
UM, BUT AGAIN, CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE PAST, UH, EIGHT YEARS, WE'VE, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY STRONG BOND SALES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO
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DO FOR REFUNDING SAVING COUNTY TAXPAYERS, $31 MILLION MAINTAIN OUR AAA BOND RATING.UH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ABOUT TREASURY, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY OPERATION, UH, FROM THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO THE COUNTY EXEC TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WHO REALLY KIND OF SHARE IN ON THAT, THAT AAA BOND RATING AND THOSE SAVINGS THAT WE DO GET, UM, OPEB.
UM, ALSO KIND OF MENTIONED THIS WHEN I WAS IN FRONT OF YOU A FEW, A FEW WEEKS AGO, UH, WE HAVE, UH, MORE OR LESS FULLY FUNDED OPEC.
UM, WE, WE NO LONGER REALLY HAVE AN OUTSTANDING, UM, LIABILITY, AND THAT'S A LARGE PART BECAUSE OF DECISIONS THAT COUNTY EXECS COUNTY COUNCILS HAVE MADE IN ORDER TO BOTH, UH, FULLY FUND OPEB EACH AND EVERY YEAR TO PUT, UH, PUT THAT MONEY ASIDE SO WE CAN INVEST IT, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE STRONG STOCK MARKETS, THESE STRONG INVESTMENT GAINS, UM, BUT ALSO WORKING TO REDUCE OUR LIABILITY, WHETHER THAT WAS, UH, MOVING AWAY FROM TRADITIONAL OPEB TO THE, UM, WHAT USED TO BE CALLED THE PAP IS NOW CALLED THE RETIREMENT SAVINGS ACCOUNT OR WORKING TOWARDS THE MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THAT IS PUTS US VERY IN VERY UNIQUE GROUND, UM, FOOTING, UM, THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND REALLY EVEN THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS WELL.
UM, WELL, I THINK THAT KIM, UH, DID MENTION IS, UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING A NEW WATER AND SEWER BILLING SYSTEM.
UH, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION, UM, BOTH TO MY STAFF'S, UM, UH, PRODUCTIVITY, BUT ALSO THE, THE CITIZENS THEMSELVES, OUR CURRENT WATER AND SOURCE SYSTEM WAS BUILT IN-HOUSE BY BALTIMORE CITY BACK IN THE SEVENTIES, AND IT'S BEEN ON THEIR MAINFRAME.
THAT'S STILL OUR LAST BIG PROGRAM, STILL ON THE MAINFRAME.
UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MUCH MORE OF A 21ST CENTURY APPLICATION.
UH, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, SEE A LOT MORE INFORMATION, BE ABLE TO MAKE PAYMENTS A LOT EASIER.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE THINK, UH, THAT THAT SHOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION AND WE HOPE TO GO LIVE WITH THAT, UM, IN JULY AND WITH THAT, UM, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
IT WAS VERY THOROUGH ROBBIE AS ALWAYS.
WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WHENEVER I CALL YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS, OR AT LEAST GET BACK TO ME AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN, UH, IS NO SECRET THAT YOU'RE A BIG PART OF THAT AAA BOND RATING THAT WE GET.
UM, AND JUST WANTED TO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, I DID ACTUALLY GET A CALL WHILE WE WERE IN BREAK AND A HOMEOWNER WAS ASKING ME THE SENIOR TAX CREDIT THAT A GIFT FOR SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN IN HER HOME FOR 40 YEARS, WHATEVER THE DEAL IS.
UM, IS THAT, DOES THAT GET EXTENDED OR IS THAT COMING UP SOON? SO THERE WAS, UM, THIS UPCOMING JULY WILL BE THE FIFTH, THE FIFTH YEAR OF THAT.
AND THE, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TOOK LEGISLATION DOWN TO ANNAPOLIS.
UH, WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING SOMETHING PAST, BUT WE NEED TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY CAUSE IT WAS KIND OF PASSED AT THE END.
UM, BUT YES, THE HOPE IS THAT THAT WILL, UM, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO EXTEND IT THAT WILL THEN NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL, UM, PROBABLY IN THE, IN THE FALL, UM, FOR APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN WORK THAT OUT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET ALL THE, ALL THE DETAILS, UM, OF THE DETAILS ON THAT.
UH, COUNCIL QUESTIONS, MR. TIBBS.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I KNEW THAT OUT OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT NON-PROFITS AND THE FLUSH TAX, THEY GOT A TAX SALE BILL HERE LAST TO LOSE TONIGHT, CAROL, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE OLD ADDRESSES AT, THAT WERE IN FIVE, 10 YEARS AGO ARE THE NUMBERS.
WE DON'T HAVE OUR NEW NUMBERS.
AND I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT GETTING THESE NUMBERS TRANSFERRED TO NEW ADDRESS.
WE CAN, WE CAN I'LL I'LL WORK WITH, I MEAN, THERE ARE, UM, A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM THE STATE THAT THE STATE PROVIDES THE, THE BILLING FILES AND, AND THE LIKE, UM, OF COURSE THE FLUSH TAX TAXES, A STATE IS A STATE TAX THAT WAS PASSED ON THROUGH US.
UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CLEAN THINGS UP.
WE DO OFTENTIMES HAVE THOSE SITUATIONS, I WILL SAY WHEN IT COMES TO TAX TAIL, WE DO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO.
AND I'M PRETTY MUCH ONE PERSON IN MY OFFICE.
UM, WHO'S PRETTY MUCH DEDICATED TO THAT.
AND SHE IS CONSTANTLY KIND OF CALLING UP AND WORKING WITH WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, BUT WE STILL DO RUN INTO THESE DATA FIELD ENTRIES.
WELL, SOMETIMES THERE'S, THERE'S A LAG IF WE'RE PAID UP, THEN YOU WON'T BE IN THE SALE, BUT YES, YES.
I, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW WITH THAT, UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S LIKE, SO I KNOW THAT'S NOT A, UH, UH, SOMETHING ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY, SO THANK YOU, MR. TIBBS, ANYONE ELSE MR. SCOTT? UM, CAN WE JUMP THE DEBT SERVICE? IT'S NOT NORMALLY A TOPIC THAT WE GO THROUGH.
UM, BUT, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS IN THERE AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND ONE PART OF IT BASED ON THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE YESTERDAY, UM, THERE'S 3.3 MILLION IN THERE FOR LEASES.
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THAT'S THE MOVEMENT FROM PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, THE DEBT SERVICE, BECAUSE YEAH.OR, OR REALLY ANY PLACE THAT THERE WERE RELEASED, BUT MOSTLY IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THERE IS A GATSBY, THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD, WHOSE JOB IS TO BASICALLY MAKE LIFE DIFFICULT ON YOU AND ME AND ALL THE PRACTITIONERS OUT THERE.
THEY SAY IT'S TO, UH, TO HELP OUT THE INDUSTRY OR THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EVERY YEAR THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING NEW TO KIND OF TORTURE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTANTS WITH.
AND THIS ONE, UH, WAS THAT THEY WANTED LEASES TO BE TREATED MORE AS LIKE A LOW ONGOING OBLIGATION TO COUNTIES SO THAT PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, YOU HAVE DEBT, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THESE, THESE LEASES THAT ARE LIKE OBLIGATIONS.
SO YOU NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THEM DIFFERENTLY.
AND SO, YES, UH, WE ARE MOVING TOWARD, UM, TOWARDS PUTTING THOSE LEASES WITHIN DEBT SERVICE, UM, AND THEN PUTTING THE FULL VALUE OF THE LEASE, UM, INTO THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
UM, IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO ALMOST LIKE BONDS WITH LIKE BONDS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT THEN THE DEBT SERVICE IN THE, IN THE, UM, THE, THE PAYMENTS, IF YOU WILL, IN THE, UH, IN THE DEBT SERVICE BUDGET, AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE US DO THAT WITH THESE, UH, SOFTWARE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS NOW IS THAT A LOT OF SOFTWARE IT USED TO BE WITH BY SOFTWARE, YOU WOULD OWN IT.
MAYBE YOU WOULD UPDATE IT 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND NOWADAYS EVERYTHING'S SO SUBSCRIPTION LIKE NETFLIX AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO YOU BUY LIKE A YEAR'S WORTH OF THE SERVICE AND SAME THING THERE, THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING A LOT OF THE SOFTWARE EXPENSES FOR THAT SERVICE TO UNDER THE LEAST CATEGORY.
WOULD THAT INCLUDE COPIER LEASES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? ARE WE TALKING PROPERTY? YEAH, BOTH.
BOTH, BOTH, UM, PROPERTY AS WELL AS LONG, LIKE SOME OF THE LONG-TERM, UM, TECH TECH KNOW, WE DON'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF VEHICLES, BUT YES, THERE IS A THRESHOLD FOR, FOR, FOR WHETHER OR NOT, UM, IT WOULD NEED TO BE INTO THAT, BUT A LOT OF THOSE LARGE COPIER TYPE THINGS WOULD ALSO GET, WOULD ALSO GET MOVED AS, YEAH.
UM, AGAIN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A THRESHOLD, BUT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THOSE COSTS GET MOVED THERE BECAUSE GATSBY WANTS TO MORE OR LESS TREAT THEM LIKE KIND OF ONGOING OBLIGATIONS.
UH, AND THE 700,000 HERE FOR SOFTWARE, IS THAT THE SUBSCRIPTION FOR THE SOFTWARE OR IS THIS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT YOU'RE INTENDING ON DOING FOR, UM, YEAH.
FOR THE SAME THING FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE? UM, UM, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES BECAUSE I'M ON THE TREASURY SIDE, I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS YEAR'S THIS YEAR'S FINANCIAL REPORT.
UM, BUT WE WERE BUDGETING FOR IT IN 23, IF WE COULD PUT IT IN NEXT YEAR'S FINANCIAL REPORT.
SO THAT'S FOR YOUR, LIKE THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM? YEAH.
WELL FINANCIAL AND REALLY ANYTHING THOUGH.
THAT'S A SUBSCRIPTION-BASED SOFTWARE.
NOW I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE INSURANCE.
IS THAT YOU, OR DO WE DO THAT WITH, ALONG WITH LIKE CELL, UM, INSURANCE TAB? UH, OH, THE INSURANCE.
I MEAN, SOME OF THIS FALL, UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT.
UH, THE NEXT TAB BACK AFTER DEBT SERVICE.
WE WORK WITH, WE WORK WITH, UM, WITH, WITH RISK IN DEVELOPING THESE, UM, BUDGETS.
UM, BUT, UH, THE WORKER'S COMP AND THE INSURANCE AT ALL IS ALL UNDER A LAW.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEXT? YEAH, I KNOW.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, ROBYN.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MELISSA LAW DEPARTMENT, PAGE TWO FORTY ONE, ACTUALLY HAVE THREE CALL CENTERS.
SO FOR LEGAL SERVICES, THERE'S AN INCREASE OF ONE 73,890.
AND ALL OF THAT ISN'T PERSONAL SERVICES.
THE 1 31 8 40 IS FOR THE MERIT AND COLA.
25,600 IS FOR HEALTH BENEFIT ADJUSTMENTS.
AND THE 10% INCREASE FOR THE PLAN.
UH, OPEB INCREASES 36,457 AND THEN THE 27TH PAY IS 62, 8 0 6.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, BUSINESS AND TRAVEL, ET CETERA.
IF YOU TURN TO PAGE 2 45, THIS IS A NEW CALL CENTER FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATIVE BOARDS RELATED TO THE NEW POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY ACT THE 2021.
AND JUST TO START OFF, WE PROVIDED 200,000
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FOR THAT CALL CENTER ON PAGE TWO FORTY SIX RISK MANAGEMENT.THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE 15,000 3 95.
AND AGAIN, ALL OF THAT IS IMPERSONAL SERVICES.
IT PROVIDES FOR THE MERIT AND COLA OF 18,342.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF TURNOVER.
SO YOU'LL SEE, UM, A DECREASE OF $8,317 DUE TO TURNOVER 27TH PAY $6,869, AND THEN OPEB AT A COST OF 5,656.
AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
UM, AS I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU OVER THESE PAST YEARS, UM, THE LAW DEPARTMENT AT THIS POINT HAS HAD, UM, DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF STAFFING.
AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE FIVE ATTORNEYS, UH, ONE RISK AND SAFETY OFFICER, ONE INVESTIGATOR, AND FIVE SUPPORT STAFF.
THE ATTORNEYS PROVIDE ADVICE AND COUNSEL TO 14 DEPARTMENTS.
SO FIVE ATTORNEYS, 14 DEPARTMENTS, AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
THESE DUTIES INCLUDE DRAFTING AND REVIEWING CONTRACTS, REVIEWING PLATS, REVIEWING GRANT APPLICATIONS, DRAFTING LEGISLATION FOR CODE CHANGES, BOND AUTHORIZATIONS, RATE CHANGES, BUDGET PROCESSES, MASTER PLAN, REVISIONS, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES AND INITIATIVES.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES.
UM, ADDITIONALLY HUMAN RESOURCES, ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS, AS WELL AS STATE FILINGS ARE ALL HANDLED BY OUR ATTORNEYS.
WE ALSO PROVIDE REPRESENTATION TO THE LIBRARIES, THE BOARD OF ETHICS, AS WELL AS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WHICH KEEPS THE LAW DEPARTMENT VERY, VERY BUSY.
SO, UM, WE ALSO REPRESENT THE OFFICE ON AGING AND AS PART OF THAT FUNCTION, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, WE ADMINISTER APPROXIMATELY 50 GUARDIANSHIP CASES TO PROVIDE GUARDIAN RESPONSIBILITIES TO THOSE SENIORS IN THE COUNTY WHO CAN'T DO IT FOR THEMSELVES.
AND THAT THE COURT HAS ORDERED US TO BE INVOLVED WITH.
UM, WE ALSO DO COLLECTIONS THROUGH THE LAW DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR, WE RECOVERED $1.7 MILLION IN COLLECTIONS, WHICH IS REALLY A RECORD HIGH THIS YEAR.
I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME IN, THAT WAS A FUNCTION THAT WAS NOT BEING DONE IN HOUSE.
SO THAT'S A GREAT SAVINGS FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, AS YOU HEARD, RISK AND SAFETY IS ALSO HOUSED IN THE LOSS DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ALL THE MOTION, OSHA COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UM, WE, UM, MAINTAIN THE INSURANCE POLICIES AS WELL AS INVESTIGATE ALL ACCIDENTS AND DAMAGES OCCURRED IN THE COUNTY.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY JUST A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT ROLLS INTO THE LAW DEPARTMENT ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT GIVES YOU A GLIMPSE OF HOW HARD SUCH A SMALL STAFF WORKS EVERY DAY TO KEEP THE COUNTY, UM, SAFE AND ON FROM LEGAL GROUND.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANKS MELISSA, WITHOUT GETTING IN ANY GREAT DETAIL TO COLLECTIONS.
YOU JUST SPENT TWO ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WERE THEY FROM? UM, IT'S FROM A BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT HASN'T BEEN COLLECTED.
WE HAVE A, A WOMAN IN MY OFFICE WHO IS VERY, VERY GOOD AT WORKING WITH PEOPLE COMING UP WITH NEGOTIATIONS AND, AND, UM, OR ON TAXES THAT HAVE GONE ON PAID MAKING CONTACT WITH THEM SHORT OF GOING TO COURT TO WORK OUT SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
SHE'S VERY GOOD AT WHAT SHE DOES.
AND I NOTICED TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS A $700,000 THAT SHE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNTY.
SO MY OTHER QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THIS, BUT A POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.
WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY A COUPLE OF TIMES.
UM, AND I WAS TALKING TO CHARLIE ABOUT IT TODAY, AND I KNOW IT'S COMING TO US IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
UM, SO IS THERE A PATH OR AN AVENUE BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL HAS TO CONFIRM, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO IS THERE A PATH OR AN AVENUE IN PLACE THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT IF SOMEONE COMES HERE THAT WE FEEL IS NOT DESIRABLE, IS THERE A WAY FOR THAT TO BE CHANGED? SO, UM, THEY WILL ALL COME TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.
UM, I THINK WE CAN TALK PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE OFFLINE ABOUT THE TIMING OF ALL THAT AND GIVING YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, REVIEW AND PERHAPS MEET WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE NOMINATED FOR THE BOARDS.
THERE'S A, UH, POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
SO, AND THAT CHARGING BOARD AS WELL, THE CHARGING BOARD HAS TWO MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY THE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.
AND THEN IT HAS TWO MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY THE, UM, COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
AND THESE ARE ALL BY LEGISLATIVE.
THIS IS HOW THE, THAT SELECTION IS MADE.
NOW THOSE TWO POSITIONS ARE NOT APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
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SELECTED BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.AND AGAIN, THE PAB SELECTS TWO PEOPLE, BUT THE FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD, THEY, ALL THOSE NAMES WILL COME TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
IT HAS TO BE IN PLACE BY WHEN JULY 1ST, FIVE MEMBER, SEVEN MEMBER ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAS LIFTED IN MY PROBATION COMING NOW.
WHAT ROLE DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT PLAY IN THIS, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY? WELL, REALLY, UM, WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATION PROVIDES FOR IS THAT THERE IS A BUDGET FOR THESE BOARDS.
I THINK HOW THAT ALL IS SPECIFICALLY GONNA ROLL OUT CAN BE, UM, AGAIN, PREVIEWS OF COMING ATTRACTIONS, AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE IS ONE POSITION THAT IS NEEDED FOR THE TRIAL BOARD, WHICH IS A RETIRED JUDGE.
SO I SUSPECT THAT SOME OF THOSE, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WILL GO TO THAT POSITION, UM, WITH REGARD TO, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE HELP WITH REGARD TO THE OTHER, UM, NEEDS OF THE BOARDS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARDS WILL DECIDE AND SOMETHING WE ALL CAN DISCUSS AS, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS.
JUST WAS CURIOUS, MR. REAGAN, JUST ON THAT, YOU SAID THEY NEED TO BE IN PLACE JULY ONE.
WHEN WILL WE SEE ANYTHING COME TO US? THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION IS GOING TO BE INTRODUCED THE SECOND, AS FAR AS I KNOW, EITHER THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN MAY.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAD? DOES ANYONE ELSE MR. SCOTT, UM, FOLLOWING ALONG THIS AND, AND I, I GET THE SENSE YOU'RE HEDGING ON AN AWFUL LOT.
HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE 200,000 FIGURE? I THINK IT'S A JIM TOOL TYPE THING.
I HONESTLY, I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH IT.
IT, AS WE, YOU KNOW, I I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN A LOT, ALL OF THE COUNTIES ARE JUST TRYING TO WORK THEIR WAY THROUGH THIS.
WELL, YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE ATTIRE JUDGE, ARE THESE INDIVIDUALS? WELL, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS WHEN WE INTRODUCED THE BILL.
I'M NOT MEANING TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT SOME THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN FINALIZED YET.
SO UNTIL I BRING THE BILL ACROSS, I HATE TO MISSPEAK AND THEN SAY SOMETHING THAT WON'T ACTUALLY BE THE CASE.
SO, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN I TALKED WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, THE THOUGHT WAS, LET'S PUT THIS MONEY IN THERE SO THAT WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER THESE BOARDS, WHICH MEANS ONCE THE MONEY'S APPROVED, YOU CAN MOVE IT AROUND.
AND INSTEAD OF HOWEVER YOU WANT THEIR APPROVAL, WELL, I MEAN THE ONLY THING I HAVE IN MY BUDGET OR SALARIES, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A LOT ELSE IN, IN MY BUDGET.
THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY OR A POTENTIAL HERE THAT YOU'LL HAVE COUNTED EMPLOYEES HERE.
WELL, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS LIKE PART OF THE ETHICS BOARD THAT WE HAVE THE ATTORNEYS FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT HELP GIVE THEM A GUIDANCE ADVICE.
WE HELP WITH SOME OF THEIR, LIKE SOME OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF HELPS DO SOME OF THOSE FUNCTIONS FOR THEM.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE MIGHT DO SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, HELPING OF ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION.
WE MAY DO THAT WITH WHO WE HAVE, BUT THEY WOULD BE EXISTING ATTORNEYS THAT YOU'RE TALKING FOR.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS HERE, ARE WE TALKING POTENTIALLY ADDING NEW COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO THIS BUDGET? SO AGAIN, UM, THE LEGISLATION, AT LEAST THE DRAFT, I HAD THOSE ADDRESS THAT.
SO WAIT, WAIT AND SEE, IS, IS WHAT I CAN TELL YOU.
SO, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE INTRODUCED THE SECOND MEETING IN MAY.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION BEFORE IT'S BEEN FINALIZED AND PART OF THE LEGISLATION, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, MANY COUNTIES HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THE WHOLE IDEA OF LEGAL REPRESENTATION.
WHEN WE ALSO REPRESENT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON ALL THEIR LIABILITY CASES.
IS THERE THE POTENTIAL, THEN ONCE YOU INTRODUCE THIS LEGISLATION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION BE SUBMITTING BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO MOVE THIS 200,000 TO THE APPROPRIATE CATEGORIES, ONCE THAT LEGISLATION IS FINALIZED,
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UM, MR. GLASSMAN, I'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THIS LEGISLATION, HE'S AWARE OF WHAT'S IN IT AND THE BUDGETARY AMOUNTS AND HE FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH IT THE WAY IT IS.UM, MY QUESTION THEN GOES TO WHERE I WAS WITH RAVI ON THE SELF-INSURANCE BETWEEN MY TENURE AND ROBBIE'S TENURE.
THERE WERE YEARS WHERE THERE WAS NO MONEY BUDGETED IN THE INSURANCE CATEGORY AND THEREFORE THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND DID NOT RECEIVE FUNDS.
UM, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER FROM THE LIFE OF HOW THOSE AMOUNTS WERE DETERMINED.
IS THERE A, UH, A STUDY THAT IS DONE BY AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE LEVELS OF THESE FUNDS? I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW THAT YES, THERE, SO THERE'S A, THE ACTUARY COMES OFF, BUT IT'S FRANKLY, AS IT RELATES TO, UM, A LOT OF THE, UM, THE WORKERS' COMP CLAIMS AND, AND THOSE KNOW THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SALARIES AND THEN ALL OF THAT, WHEN, WHAT WE NEED OUT OF THE, PUT IT THROUGH THE SELF-INSURANCE AND THERE ARE ALSO OTHER FORMS OF INSURANCE WHERE WE WORK WITH THE RISK, THE RISK MANAGER FOR SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE.
SO LIKE THIS YEAR THERE'S BEEN INCREASED SUPPORT CYBER INSURANCE.
SO THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT DO COME UP THE STUFF THAT'S NOT SELF-INSURANCE, BUT IT IS MORE LIKE KIND OF SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE.
UM, THEN, THEN IN THOSE PHASES WHERE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IT AS ADDITIONAL WORK.
AND I NOTICED IN THE, UM, PERSONNEL MATTERS CATEGORY THERE'S RE-INSURANCE FOR THE HEALTH.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, BUT THAT'S, UM, LOOK TO THAT.
THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT RELATED TO, SO THAT'S WHERE TOMORROW HR.
SO WHY IS IT, WHY ARE WE NOT GOING TO A PAGE? YOU GO WORKER'S COMP MODULE, A MODEL, LIKE A LOT OF OTHER BUSINESSES ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, IT'S PAY AS YOU, AS YOU GO.
I MEAN, I'M SURE WE HAVE THAT ABILITY WITH OUR PAYROLL SYSTEM, INSTEAD OF SEEING THESE THINGS ON THE, ON THE WORKERS' COMP WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DAVENING AND EVERYTHING HAS THAT NOT BEEN ACROSS THE BOARD WE'RE SELF-INSURED RIGHT.
SO, SO WE, THE ACTUARY COMES OFF WITH, OKAY, THIS IS HOW MANY CLAIMS ARE OUTSTANDING.
THIS IS WHAT WE THINK SALARIES ARE GOING TO BE.
SO YOU SHOULD PUT THIS MUCH INTO THE SELF-INSURANCE FUNDS THAT YOU HAD, YOU HAD COVERAGE, BUT WE'RE PAYING THE CLAIMS OUT MORE OR LESS AS, AS THEY, AS THEY GO WITH, THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF WAS SETTLEMENT EARLIER OR SOMETHING, ARE WE SELF-INSURED ON OUR COMMERCIAL AUDIT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
SO MY, MY QUESTION THEN ON THE COMMERCIAL AUTO SAYS, AND I ASKED THIS QUESTION, AND IF SOMEBODY IS, HOW OFTEN DO WE PULL THE DRIVER AND RECORDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING OUR VEHICLES ON A YEARLY BASIS? IS IT BEING PULLED OR WE DO HAVE, UM, UH, AS PART OF THE RISK DEPARTMENT, EVERYBODY WHO HAS A LICENSE, WE HAVE FLAGS WITH THEM, WITH THE MBA AND ANYTIME THEIR LICENSES GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF POINTS OR SUSPENDED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THE NBA AUTOMATICALLY SHOOTS US A FLAG.
SO WE KNOW THAT THOSE SITUATIONS ARE IN A VERY, IS IT, IS IT A MOVING VIOLATION OR IS IT A POINT BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY ARE DIFFERENT.
IF, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE TWO MOVING VIOLATIONS IN ONE POINT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T GIVE YOU POINTS.
I MEAN, WE LOOK AT MOVING VIOLATIONS.
IF WE'RE NOT PULLING PEOPLE'S DRIVING RECORDS, AT LEAST EVERY TWO YEARS, WE HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING THESE VEHICLES.
I KNOW THAT SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING THESE VEHICLES AND WE'RE AN M W WE'RE NOT, YOU JUST SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO IT IF THEY'RE FLAGGED.
SO IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT FLYING ENOUGH TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE THE TRIGGER IN PLACE TO NOTIFY US.
SO WE KNOW THAT WHEN AN EMPLOYEE GETS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POINTS ON THEIR LICENSE, THAT WE GET THAT BACK FROM THEM, THE EMPLOYEE IS ALSO HAVE IT'S PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO INFORM US WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS A TWO-WAY STREET.
WE, WE DO THE FLAGGING AND THEN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPORT WHEN THEY HAVE THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO, INTO RUNNING RECORDS ON, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HOPING TO GET SOME MORE ADMINISTRATIVE HELP IN THE RISK MANAGEMENT DIVISION, AND THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING AN ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST COULD HELP US WITH WITH A MORE REGULAR RUNNING OF RECORDS.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW HR IS STRAPPED TO PO THAT'S PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL.
SO WE KIND OF BOTH TRY TO MANAGE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, BUT I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO DOING IT.
IT CERTAINLY COULD MAKE IT BETTER.
I THINK AT LEAST EVERY TWO YEARS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THERE'S PEOPLE I KNOW THAT ARE DRIVING VEHICLES, THAT, THAT WOULDN'T
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BE INSURED ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT THEY'RE DRIVING OUR VEHICLE.AND CERTAINLY PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW ARE DRIVING ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WOULD CUT DOWN THE NUMBERS.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO REALLY BE DOING IT FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE, BUT THOSE THAT WE KNOW AS PART OF THEIR JOB FUNCTION ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DRIVE.
DO YOU REPORT THE ACCIDENTS THAT SOMEBODY IS IN TO CLUE? I'M SORRY.
SO IF I'M A COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND I HAVE AN ACCIDENT TO YOU REPORT THOSE ACCIDENTS TO A THIRD PARTY CLUE, COMPREHENSIVE LOSS, UNDERWRITING EXCHANGE, YOU KNOW, I COULD CHECK WITH MY RISK MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, MELISSA.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TYPE PLANNING AND ZONING.
WE'RE GOING TO START ON PAGE 2 59 DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING WHO HAS, UH, 1 37 42, 70 2007 99 IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES.
$47,004 IS FOR THE MERIT COLA, $5,525, OR FOR CHANGES IN HEALTH BENEFITS AND SLIGHT INCREASE 27 PAY INCREASES $18,028.
AND THEN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES DECREASES $50,000 WITH RE ALLOCATED, UM, PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS DOWN TO MISCELLANEOUS, UM, FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND THIS IS TO REFLECT WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN SPENDING THE MONEY, THE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR, UM, THINGS, UH, LIKE THE TREE CANOPY STUDY AND SO FORTH.
UM, ON PAGE 2 66, CURRENT PLANNING, THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 2 68, 7 0 7.
AND ALL OF THAT IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES.
1 57, 6 52 IS FOR THE MERIT INCREASE AND COLA 63, 4 41, THE 27TH PAY HEALTH BENEFIT ADJUSTMENTS AND INCREASE 39,000 8 97, AND THEN OPEB, UH, 50 3002 58.
THERE WERE NO NO CHANGES TO CONTRACTUAL OR BUSINESS AND TRAVEL FOR THAT.
I MISSED COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING ON PAGE 2 63, AND THAT IS ALL AN INCREASE IN PERSONAL SERVICES AS WELL.
AT 3 11, 7 87, UH, 80 1008, 15, UH, 77,400 IS REINSTATEMENT IS SALARY WHERE WE HAD OFFSET SALARIES WITH GRANTS.
SO THAT'S A REINSTATEMENT, UM, OF SOME SALARIES THERE.
97,607 IS FOR A MERIT, UH, AS FOR THE MERIT INCREASE IN AND COLA.
THE 27TH PAY A 40 2004 20 HEALTH BENEFITS, 22,000 TO 24 POST-EMPLOYMENT HEALTH PLAN, UH, 16,009 40 AND THEN OPEB 34,000 5 58.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES IN CONTRACTUAL OR BUSINESS AND TRAVEL GOING TO RUN THROUGH JUST AG PRESERVATION, REAL QUICK AG PRESERVATION ON PAGE 2 71, THERE'S A DECREASE THERE OF 248,000.
AND IT'S JUST REALLOCATION OF, UH, MAINLY THE FUNDING AND WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, THERE WAS A DECREASE IN CAPITAL OUTLAY OF A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THEN YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN, UM, MISCELLANEOUS, WHICH IS THE INNER FUND REIMBURSEMENT OF 600, $3,100.
AND THEN THE STATE AG PRESERVATION, THERE'S A DECREASE THERE, 1 51, THE CITIZEN BASED ON THE MATCHES AVAILABLE FOR IT.
UM, NOW WITH THAT, OR WHAT'S HURTING GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.
NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY AS KIM AS USUAL DOES AN AWESOME JOB DETAILING OUR BUDGET.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, UM, I CAME IN HERE, UM, I GUESS LAST BUDGET SEASON, WE FINALLY WERE, UM, UH, CERTIFIED AS A LOCAL, UH, CERTIFIED GOVERNMENT, WHICH GIVES US ACCESS TO FUNDING FOR
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HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS.UM, WE HAVE APPLIED FOR, AND WE WERE GRANTED FUNDING TO BEGIN PHASE TWO OF DRAFTING, OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION GUIDELINES.
UM, THAT'S GOING TO FOCUS ON RENEWABLE ENERGY AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR OUR DESIGN REVIEW.
UM, AND THAT GRANT FOR PHASE TWO WAS IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,000 WITH A $10,000 STATE CHAIR AND THEN A $10,000 CASH MATCH.
UM, WE SPENT A LITTLE OVER $12,000 SO FAR ON THAT PROJECT, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE FOR THE COUNTY AND IT WAS DEFINITELY SORELY NEEDED.
UM, WE'VE ALSO APPLIED FOR A FIFTH ARCHITECTURAL SURVEY GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF 28,000 2 68 WITH A STATE CHAIR OF 18 TO 68 AND A $10,000 CASH MATCH.
UM, AND THIS PROJECT WILL FOCUS ON, UM, OUR AT RISK HISTORIC VILLAGES.
UM, THE LAST TIME A HISTORIC VILLAGE STUDY WAS DONE FOR THE COUNTY WAS IN 2007.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S SORELY NEEDED AS WELL TO GET THAT WORK COMPLETED.
UM, AND WE'RE ALSO VERY EXCITED THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS ALLOCATED 19 MILLION AGAIN FOR AGRICULTURAL PRESERVATION, UH, WHICH WILL HELP SIGNIFICANTLY TOWARDS OUR 75,000 ACRES OF PRESERVATION.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I'D WELCOME.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I GUESS THIS IS THE FART.
PAUL WAS HIS FIRST NAME LAUDERDALE? NO, NOT YET.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE, MR. BUELLER, GO ON YOUR OWN ROLE.
IT'S BETTER THAN THE SNOW REMOVAL.
UM, AT LEAST I'M NOT BE ON MY HEAD, NOT BEHIND, YOU KNOW, ME LET'S DON'T EVEN START ON THAT.
UM, ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, THERE WAS THAT ZONING ENFORCEMENT QUESTION SOMEBODY HAD YESTERDAY.
I THINK I ANSWERED IT, BUT ON AVERAGE WE DO, UH, IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS, WE'VE DONE ABOUT 653 CASES, RIGHT? WITH HOW MANY TOTAL IN THE STAFF THERE WAS, I THINK A TOTAL OF FIVE STAFF MEMBERS.
WE HAVE THREE INSPECTORS, UM, TWO ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND THEN THE ZONING ENFORCEMENT COORDINATOR, THREE INSPECTORS COUNCIL, PRESIDENT.
I COULDN'T REMEMBER, BUT YOU DID ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR ME YESTERDAY, SO I APPRECIATE YOU.
SO YOU SAID THAT THE RIGHT TIME WAS PERSON
SO, SO WHAT, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS DO YOU GET NORMALLY, UM, IN A FISCAL YEAR, IT IS WAY MORE THAN THAT AT THAT AVERAGE OF SIX 50 OR SO.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES WE GET PHONE CALLS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, SAY SOMEONE'S PUTTING A FENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY, UM, NEIGHBOR CALLS TO LODGE A COMPLAINT, BUT THEY ALREADY HAVE A PERMIT FOR IT.
AND THEY MIGHT NOT JUST NOT KNOW THAT.
SO A LOT OF TIMES, UM, THOSE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT WE HAVE IN THE ZONING ENFORCEMENT SECTION FIELD, A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF PHONE CALLS JUST DAILY, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT GOES FOR A SHED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I'M PERMITTED PULL NINE TIMES OUT OF 10.
THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE PERMIT AND IT'S NOT A VIOLATION.
AND, AND HOW MANY OF THOSE COMPLAINTS COME THROUGH, UM, AND DOES CLICK IT OR FIX IT, ACTUALLY WORK FOR YOU.
I DO NOT HAVE THAT STATISTIC, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, MR. JANDER THEN.
SO I UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT BE A, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A BIG ISSUE, BUT IT'S AN ISSUE WITH VEHICLES, UM, ON LOTS ON ROUTE 40 ABERDEEN, HAVRE DE GRACE SPILLING OUT ONTO THE ROAD, IS THAT, IS THAT YOU GUYS, IT CAN BE IN CERTAIN CASES, IT DEPENDS ON THE CASE BY CASE BASIS AND WHERE THE, WHERE THE, WHERE THE VIOLATION COULD OCCUR.
UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE ROUTE 40 CORRIDOR, IT MIGHT GO OVER TO STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION OF IT'S IN THERE, RIGHT, RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT'S, IT IS A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHERE WE HAVE TO DO THAT, THAT WORK.
UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING A SPECIFIC CASE YOU'D LIKE TO ASK ME ABOUT MORE THAN HAPPY TO, I WAS, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY A CASSIE.
I THINK CASSIE BOYER FROM HAVING TO GRAY CITY COUNCIL ABOUT, UM, SOMEPLACE.
I'M NOT SURE SOMEONE MIGHT'VE BEEN IN ABERDEEN OR AVERAGE GRACE YOU'D TELL HER.
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I THINK IT TELLS YOU GATEWAY IN.THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TOMORROW.
YOU STOLE MY THUNDER TAG TEAM.
I LOVE, YEAH, NO, WE CAN TAG TEAM.
THEY DO DEAL WITH HAWKER AND PEDDLERS ALONG ROUTE 40 OFTEN.
SHE'S ONE OF MY VERY FIRST JOBS WITH HARTFORD COUNTY, WHICH CAN BE VERY SCARY, WHETHER IT'S A CRAB OR SOMEBODY JUST PULLING OVER AND SELLING WHATEVER.
UM, AND THEN THAT IS ZONING ENFORCEMENT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE RIGHT IN THE RIGHT AWAY.
AND SO TO, TO THAT POINT DOWN IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS, YOU HAVE HOS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AREA AND THERE COULD BE CARS PARKED ON LAWNS OR WHATEVER, UM, UH, ABANDONED VEHICLES.
SO IS THE HOA RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? OR DO YOUR TEAM COME IN AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? THE VIOLATION LETTER WOULD GO TO THE PERSON OF RECORD WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY NINE TIMES OUT OF 10.
UM, AND THEN FROM THERE WE'D WORK WITH THEM.
SOMETIMES IT'S ACTUALLY THE HOA CALLING ON THEMSELVES AND THEY DON'T KNOW IT.
UM, AND WE, WE DO HELP THEM OUT FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN, PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE LINES START TO GET BLURRED.
IT'S EASIER IN A, IN A NEW SUBDIVISION WHERE, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS MY PROPERTY LINE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE DECADES OLD, IT'S HARD TO TELL WE CAN HELP THEM OUT WITH THAT.
AND, AND, UH, ARE YOU, ARE YOU BECOMING A LITTLE, OR CAN YOU BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THESE HOS THAT MAY BE DISBANDED OR, OR DON'T HAVE REALLY A BOARD THAT, THAT HANDLES THINGS LIKE THAT? IT IS A, THAT IS A VERY, VERY HARD THING TO DEAL WITH.
UM, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, UM, WE DO HAVE OLDER, UH, HOS PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, UM, THAT HAVE JUST BECOME DEFUNCT.
UM, AND, AND IT'S, IT BECOMES A VERY, VERY, UM, CHALLENGING THING TO KIND OF START TO TALK TO THE PARTIES AND GET THEM INVOLVED BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT MAYBE LIVE IN SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WANT TO SEE THE RESOLUTION AND OTHERS THAT MAYBE DON'T.
SO, SO HOW IN A, YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD, HOW WOULD YOU FIX THAT ISSUE? OR IT WOULD, WOULD YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME LEGAL MEASURES AGAINST THE HOA? NOT SO MUCH US.
I MEAN, WE COULD, IF IT BECAME A VIOLATION, BUT WHAT WE WOULD BEFORE WE'D EVEN GO DOWN THAT PATHWAY.
I MEAN, WHETHER WE TRIED TO GET SOME SORT OF MEDIATION TO OCCUR THAT ALL THE PARTIES CAN KIND OF AGREE TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
IT'S, BUT AGAIN, IT'S HARD BECAUSE IF THEIR HOA DUTIES ARE NOT BEING PAID, RIGHT.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, PULL OUT AN ABANDONED VEHICLE.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, MR. SCOTT, UM, QUESTION MORE OF OPERATIONS.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND POINTING INTO ZONING WITH THE ZONING INSPECTIONS.
YOU'RE RESPONDING MORE TO JUST COMPLAINTS.
YOU'RE NOT THE PROPERTY THAT I'M THINKING OF WAS REZONED THE HEARING EXAMINER SET, DANIEL PROPERTY CONSTRAINTS OF THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE ON THE PROPERTY.
PROPERTY SELLS NEW OWNER COMES IN REMODELS, THE BUILDING, TEARS, ALL OF THE THINGS OUT THAT THE HEARING EXAMINER PREVIOUSLY STATED NEED TO BE DONE, AND THEY JUST DISAPPEAR.
YOU DON'T GO OUT AND ENFORCE ANY OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UNLESS THERE IS A COMPLAINT MADE AGAINST THAT PROPERTY.
AT THAT SOMETHING I THINK OUGHT TO BE CORRECTED SOMEBODY OFF TO BE ENFORCING WHAT WAS SET DOWN.
SO WHEN A CASE GOES THROUGH THE HEARING EXAMINER AND SAY, THEY START TO COME IN FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND SUCH, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE HEARING EXAMINERS DECISION RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.
AND WE MAKE SURE THAT AS THAT GOES THROUGH WHATEVER APPROVAL PROCESS THAT THEY NEED TO CONTINUE ON WITH THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE MEETING WHAT THE HEARING EXAMINER TOLD THEM THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO.
BUT WHEN A RENOVATION PUR, THEN IT COMES THROUGH, WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE OLDEST HEARING EXAMINER IN CERTAIN CASES, DEPENDS ON HOW THE EXAMINER WE'RE AT THE DECISION.
ARE YOU SAYING HIS DECISION ARMY CUP APPLIES TO THE PROPERTY AT THAT TIME? NOT NECESSARILY, BUT IT DEPENDS.
AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY, THEY WROTE THE DECISION BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT HEARING EXAMINERS OVER TIME THAT WRITE VERY DIFFERENTLY, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW.
UM, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT STYLE IF YOU WILL, OR DEPENDING UPON THE PARTICULARS ABOUT A CASE AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THEY MAY HAVE FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO WRITE THE DECISION IN SUCH A MANNER THAT THEY DECIDE TO WRITE IT IN.
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OKAY.WHEN YOU WERE SAYING THAT, THANK YOU.
ENFORCED WHAT THE HEARING EXAMINER SAID, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COMPLAINT BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
NOW, WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, TWO THINGS.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS, WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE BOARD OF APPEALS PROCESS AND SAY, THEY'RE COMING INTO TO GET ALL THEIR PERMITS, WE HAVE THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION IN FRONT OF US.
WE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER PERMITTING THEY'RE PULLING SITE PLANS, WHATEVER HAS THOSE PARTICULAR PARAMETERS IN THE ACTUAL PLAN ITSELF AND OR THE PERMIT, UM, WITH REGARD TO ANY SORT OF COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN, WE ARE COMPLAINT DRIVEN BY ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO IF YOU CALL ON YOUR NEIGHBOR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT YOUR NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR MAY BE AS ENCOURAGING WITH A FENCE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
THEN WE GO OUT AND WE INSPECT THE PROPERTY AND TAKE PICTURES AND STUFF.
OPEN OUR CASE, MISSISSIPPI CASE WHERE THE HEARING EXAMINER SAYS THIS PROPERTY HAS THE FENCE FENCE WENT ALONG THE ROAD, BUT IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
UH, ANYONE ELSE? JENNY AND MASTER PLAN NEXT, NEXT, I GUESS 20 26, 20 26 PLUS ALSO TOO FAR, 10 YEARS, 2016.
THAT'S COMP ZONING USUALLY COMES ON AND HE FOLLOWS THE MASTER PLAN, BUT IT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW EVERY 10 YEARS.
THE MASTER CLEANERS NEVER DENIED KUMAR SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE A REVIEW OF THE MASTER PLAN.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY AND DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, DEPENDING UPON WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN, WE'LL EITHER DO A FULL REWRITE OR THEY DO JUST THAT THEY DO A REVIEW.
UM, MY TIME AT THE STATE, YOU KNOW, SOME JURISDICTIONS FELT LIKE THEIR PLAN WAS STILL GOOD WITHIN THEIR PLANNING HORIZON, BUT THAT, THAT HAS TO HAVE THAT REVIEW HAS TO OCCUR BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT DECISION.
USUALLY NOT SO MUCH PRESSURE ABOUT THE MASTER PLATE AS IT ARE AS COMPREHENSIVE PEOPLE THAT WERE PUSHING PUSH FOR THAT KIND OF MAKE THE WHEELS TURN A LITTLE BIT.
SO AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, YOU'RE THINKING THAT 20, 26.
IT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED ON MY DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2016.
WHAT? I SAW SOMETHING RIGHT HERE, SOMETHING RIGHT HERE THAT WAS YESTERDAY.
SO IS THAT A NO, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE AN THANK YOU, JEFF.
UH, GUYS, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH, UH, MS. BURLEY.
PAGE SIX 40 IS WHERE WE'LL START.
WAS THERE AN ISSUE WITH THE MOM PAUL TRAIL AFTER I SAW YOU, THIS WAS THE HOME ACCIDENT TO SAY IT'S BRAND NEW.
I HIT TRIP, WHICH PAGE? SIX 40.
40 IS PARKS AND REC ADMINISTRATION.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE 1 15, 5 17.
AND, UM, THAT IS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES.
THE MERIT INCREASE OF 61, 180 6, OPEB, 11,000 1 38 AND 27TH PAY 23,117.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES, UM, IN ALL THE OTHER AREAS, CONTRACTUAL MATERIAL AND MISCELLANEOUS.
THIS IS RECREATIONAL SERVICES.
AND THE BULK OF THAT AGAIN IS IN PERSONAL SERVICES.
THERE'S FUNDS FOR THE 27TH PAY OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND $15.
MERIT INCREASE AND NICOLA FOR 2 61, 7 45, UH, HEALTH BENEFITS, 49,003, 60 OPEB,
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76 INCREASED 76,000 2 47 AND PEP 9,005 30.THERE WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES OF $6,000 IN THIS, UM, PROVIDES FOR THE ANNUAL INSPECTION MAINTENANCE REPAIR OF GYM AND FITNESS EQUIPMENT BASED ON ACTUAL EXPENSES STORY, AS WELL AS TELEPHONE FAX SERVICE AND OTHER ADVERTISING.
AND THEN DOWN UNDER BUSINESS AND TRAVEL.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND THIS IS FOR TRAINING SEMINARS AND COURSES FOR STAFF ON PAGE SIX 50 IS PARKS AND FACILITIES.
THEY HAVE AN INCREASED THEIR FOUR 20 TO 4 61, 2 38, 4 63 IS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES.
UM, WE MOVED, WE MOVED TO FUNDED VACANCIES FROM PARKS AND REC TO DPW CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT I SPOKE ABOUT THIS MORNING, AS WELL AS WE TOOK THREE UNFUNDED POSITIONS.
UM, THEY WERE VACANT, BUT WE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING FOR THEM.
WE MOVED THEM TO THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DIVISION OF EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR NEW EMS. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WHEN THEY COME BEFORE US, UM, OPEB INCREASED THE 75,000 9 90, 20 SEVENTH PAY COST OF 78, 8 63, 8 63, THE MERIT INCREASE AND THE S UH, 7% COLA IS A COST OF 2 0 3, 7 21.
AND THEN HEALTH BENEFITS INCREASES 43, 7 0 2 UNDER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF $184,000.
THIS PROVIDES FOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE BUILDING CUSTODIAL SERVICES, AND THIS, THESE WERE ALL ADJUSTED NOT TO EXCEED THE CONTRACTUAL AMOUNTS AS WELL AS AN ADJUSTMENT IN OTHER RENTS AND LEASES, MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES AND BUSINESS AND TRAVEL.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES AND THERE'S FUN FUNDING LEVELS ON PAGE 6 54.
AND THIS IS UNDER THE SPECIAL REVENUE PARKS AND REC FUND.
UM, EMERTON RECKONED TENDER CENTER.
THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE, 37,704.
AND THIS AGAIN IS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES.
THIS IS FOR TEMPORARY SALARIES PROVIDED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND BUILDINGS AT EMERSON RECORD TENNIS CENTER OF 16,000 6, 25 OF ALL, ALONG WITH THE HEALTH BENEFITS AND FIGHT, GO ON PAGE 6, 57 IS OPEN TO PENINSULA, AND THERE'S AN INCREASE THERE OF 19,000 5 98.
AGAIN, UM, 8,000 4 33 IS FOR PERSONAL SERVICES FOR TEMPORARY STAFF TO FUND THE EVENTS, UM, AT OAKINGTON AS SO PAYS FOR FICA.
AND THEN WORKERS COMP ALSO CONTRACTUAL SERVICES INCREASES $10,000, AND THIS IS FOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, SMALL FACILITY, REPAIR RENOVATIONS, AND SO FORTH AT TWO ON PAGE SIX 60 IS THE REC COUNCIL AND SPECIAL ACTIVITIES ACCOUNTS.
THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE OF $9,197.
AND THE BULK OF THAT IS TO PROVIDE BUILDING CUSTODIAL SERVICES AND VARIOUS BUILDINGS.
AND THIS IS BASED ON ACTUAL EXPENSE HISTORY.
AND WITH THAT GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, PRESIDENT VINCE, ANY FELLOW COUNCILMAN, UM, I'M JOINED TODAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO INTRODUCE MY STAFF IN CASE YOU'RE NOT, I THINK Y'ALL KNOW PAUL MAGNUS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
UM, I HAVE LISA MGA, CHIEF OF RECREATION, MIKE SIMON, OUR BUDGET AND PURCHASING MANAGER AND STEVE CONTACT.
CONDUCT'S OUR CONTRACT MANAGER.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THE BUDGET TO YOU GUYS TODAY.
UM, I WANT TO GO BACK A QUICK STEP AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COVID REMINDED EVERYONE, ALL OF US, HOW VITAL IT IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET OUTSIDE AND RECREATE RECENT STUDY BY THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION IDENTIFIED THAT SEVEN IN 10 PEOPLE MAINTAINED OR INCREASED PARK TRAIL AND PUBLIC SPACE USAGE DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
AND WE CERTAINLY SAW THAT IN OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES, UH, WE'VE HAD CONTINUED TO WORK HARD TO KEEP UP UP, KEEP ALL OF THOSE CITIZENS TO CONTINUE TO ENJOY OUR SPACES, LEAVE UPDATED FACILITIES, ADAPTED CONTRACTS, TO FLUCTUATING NEEDS AND EXPANDED RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING OFFERED BY OUR DEPARTMENT.
WE MOST RECENTLY PUT OUR NEW REC MOBILE INTO SERVICE IN HOPES THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING RECREATIONAL EXPERIENCES TO MORE CITIZENS.
AND AS MANY OF YOU SAW, SOME OF YOU JOINED US THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE CUT THE RIBBON ON THE SECOND SEGMENT OF OUR MOM POD TRAIL CONNECTOR.
OUR REC COUNCILS HAVE ALSO GOTTEN ALMOST BACK TO PRO NORMAL PROGRAMMING, AND THEY WERE ONCE AGAIN, ALLOWED BACK IN THE SCHOOLS THAT WAS A MAJOR
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HIT I'VE SAT BEFORE YOU EVERY YEAR AND SAID, WHAT A GREAT PARTNER AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY WEREN'T A GREAT PARTNER.IT'S JUST, THEY HAD THEIR GOAL OF GETTING THE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS AND KEEPING THEM THERE.
UM, AND THAT MEANT NOT ALLOWING OUR REC KIDS IN THERE IN THE EVENINGS.
UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS HUGE.
AND WHILE OUR BUILDINGS WERE OPEN, THE REC COUNCILS THAT RELIED ON THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, THEY, THEY DID TAKE A HIT AND WE DID SEE CREATIVE PROGRAMMING.
WE SAW REC COUNCILS WORKING TOGETHER.
ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT WAS THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
UM, THEY HELD WRESTLING PRACTICES AND MEETS AT THAT INDOOR REC UH, BUILDING AT THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
SO THAT WAS MULTIPLE REC COUNCILS WORKING TOGETHER TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE NORMALLY THEY WOULD ONLY BE IN SCHOOLS.
UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS AWESOME.
UM, AS KIM MENTIONED, BESIDES, UH, PERSONNEL SERVICES, OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET HASN'T CHANGED THAT DRASTICALLY.
WE HAVE SEEN SOME INCREASES IN CONTRACTED SERVICES AND SHE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTED SERVICES, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE THING, UM, AS TO WHO'S THOSE CONTRACTED SERVICES ARE ACTUALLY BEING PROVIDED TO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY, UM, LIKE FACILITY AND OPERATIONS DIVISION FOR ALL THINGS OUTSIDE, THEY MANAGE THE INSIDE AND THE BUILDINGS WE MANAGE THE UPKEEP MAINTENANCE OF COUNTY, PARKING, LOTS, GRASS, LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA.
SO I'LL USE OUR SNOW OPERATIONS.
AS AN EXAMPLE, WHILE MOST OF OUR MAINTENANCE CREW, WHEN IT SNOWS, THEY GO TO HIGHWAYS, THEY CLEARED, THEY, THEY DO THE COUNTY ROADS.
UM, AND THEN OUR CONTRACT SERVICES CREW MANAGES THE REMOVAL OF SNOW FOR ALMOST ALL THE COUNTY SITES, INCLUDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, THE COURTHOUSES, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND THE LIBRARY.
IN FACT, THIS PAST WINTER ONLY 48% OF THE SNOW REMOVAL PAID OUT OF PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET WAS FOR SNOW REMOVAL AT PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF SNOW REMOVAL, A LOT OF THAT'S IN OUR BUDGET, UM, AND WE'RE DOING IT FOR EVERYONE.
UM, 24% WAS AT OTHER HARTFORD COUNTY BUILDINGS.
AND 6% WAS FOR THE HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S, UH, OFFICE IN A SIMILAR MANNER AT OUR INDOOR, WE PROVIDE CONTRACTED CLEANING AND MONITORING OF OUR BUILDINGS THAT ARE USED REGULARLY BY THE OFFICE ON AGING, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, CAFE CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
AND OF COURSE, ALL OF OUR REC COUNCILS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, WHEN LOOKING AT PAST BUDGETS COMPARED TO THIS YEAR DURING COVID OUR CONTRACTED SERVICES, MAINLY WITH OUR BUILDINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH OUR CLEANING CONTRACTS AND WHATNOT, WE'RE NOT USED AS MUCH AS ANTICIPATED AND WITH THE HOPES THAT WE ARE BACK UP AND RUNNING, UM, LIKE NORMAL, WE EXPECT ALL OF THAT, THOSE NUMBERS TO PICK BACK UP.
UM, AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO PAUL TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY OPERATING OR CAPITAL QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ASK THEM AT THAT TIME.
AND GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND, UH, COUNTY COUNCILMAN.
AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW PROJECTS.
SOME OF WHICH ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION, UH, AS WELL AS SOME THAT ARE PART OF OUR FYI 23 CAPITAL BUDGET REQUESTS, UH, THE ABERDEEN ACTIVITY CENTER, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN AND WORKING ACTIVELY WITH THE CITY OF ABERDEEN THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
AS WE LOOK TO BRING THAT PROJECT TO FRUITION, AS KATHY MENTIONED THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE OPENED UP SEGMENT TWO OF THE MON PARK TRAIL SEGMENT THREE, WHICH IS GOING TO CONNECT FROM NORTH AVENUE UP TO BLAKE'S VENTURE PARK, WHICH IS WHERE THE CURRENT, UH, TRAIL THE FOREST HILLS SECTION OF THE TRAIL CURRENTLY, UH, ENDS, UH, WE'RE AT 90% DESIGN DOCUMENTS ON THAT PROJECT AND WORKING TO GET OUR 100% DESIGN DOCUMENTS BACK TO THE STATE FOR THEIR REVIEW.
UH, THIS COMING JUNE WITH OUR GOAL IS TO GET THE PROJECT OUT TO BID BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE IT UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN 2023.
UM, THE OAKINGTON PENINSULA PARK SYSTEM, WHICH AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, WHEN WE ACQUIRED THE BELLEVUE FARM PROPERTY, UM, WE NOW HAVE OVER 1200 ACRES ON THAT, UH, ENTIRE PENINSULA.
UH, SO WE ARE STARTING THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS FOR THAT ENTIRE PENINSULA, WHICH WILL INCLUDE SWAN HARBOR, FARM BELLEVUE FARM, ELEANOR AND MILLER TIDINGS PARK, UH, AS WELL AS THE MULLINS PROPERTY, UH, TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE VISION FOR THAT ENTIRE AREA.
UH, WE HAVE LYNN STACY GETS, UH, THE PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT.
UH, WE ACTUALLY JUST RECENTLY, UH, COMPLETED PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE TWO TO FIVE-YEAR-OLD SECTION, UH, AND THEN PHASE TWO, UH, WHICH WILL BE THE REST OF THE PLAYGROUND WILL BE COMPLETED THIS COMING FALL, UH, ANNIE'S PLAYGROUND, UH, REPLACEMENT, UH, PHASE ONE IS ACTUALLY UNDERWAY NOW.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE TWO TO FIVE-YEAR-OLD SECTION, UH, AT THAT FACILITY.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO COMPLETE THAT BY MEMORIAL DAY.
UH, AND IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, OBVIOUSLY
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IN THE CASE OF LYNN STACY GETS, WE, UH, WORKED WITH THE GETZ FAMILY, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THE VISION THAT THEY HAD IN PLACE, UM, RELATIVE TO LYNN STACY GETS IS MAINTAINED.AND THEN WITH ANNIE'S PLAYGROUND, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE CUMPSTON FAMILY FOR THAT SAME, UH, IDEA SO THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THE VISION OF WHAT THEY HAVE IN MIND WITH REGARDS TO THOSE PLAYGROUNDS, UM, FOR
THIS IS A CONTINUING, UH, COOPERATIVE ARRANGEMENT INITIALLY, UH, PARTIALLY WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD REPLACEMENTS.
UH, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE ALSO, UH, COMBINED THAT WITH OUR NATURAL TURF FIELD REPLACEMENTS.
SO, UM, THE HARTFORD TECH UH, REPLACEMENT PROJECT ACTUALLY WILL BEGIN IN MAY, UH, AFTER THE SPRING SPORTS SEASON IS COMPLETE, UH, HAVRE DE GRACE SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD IS THE NEXT IN LINE FOR REPLACEMENT AND
UM, AND THEN WE ARE COMPLETING THE NATURAL TURF FIELD RENOVATIONS, UH, TO THE LAST FIELD AT CEDAR LANE PARK, THIS SPRING AND SUMMER, UH, AND HICKORY PARK, UH, IS THE NEXT, UH, FIELD IN LA OR THE NEXT FACILITY IN LINE FOR NATURAL TURF FIELD RENOVATIONS FOR
UM, WE HAVE FUNDING IN PLAY OR FUNDING SCHEDULED FOR, OR REQUESTED FOR THE JARRETTSVILLE RECREATION CENTER PROPERTY.
AGAIN, WE PUT A MASTER PLAN FOR THAT SITE IN PLACE, UM, AND ARE WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING THAT MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, THE NEW RECREATION CENTER.
UM, SO PART, PART OF THE FUNDING THAT IS THAT REQUESTED FOR THIS YEAR WOULD BE FOR THE DESIGN.
AND THEN WE HAVE FOLLOW-UP REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, RELATIVE TO THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, THE JOPPA YOUTH SENIOR CENTER.
UM, WE HAVE A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS CURRENTLY REQUESTED FOR, AGAIN, THE DESIGN OF THAT BUILDING.
UM, WE CURRENTLY ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON A COUPLE OF PROPERTY OPTIONS, UH, IN THE JOB OF TOWN AREA.
AND AS THOSE, HOPEFULLY ONE OF THOSE COMES TO FRUITION.
WE'LL HAVE NEWS FOR YOU ABOUT THAT.
UH, IN, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UH, WE HAVE DESIGNED MONEY IN PLACE FOR NORTHERN REGIONAL PARK.
UH, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WE ACQUIRED FROM THE ARCHDIOCESE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AT RIDGE ROAD AND ROUTE 1 36 A AND THIS WILL BE FOR THE FORD DESIGN, UM, OF THAT SITE.
UH, AND THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT WILL INCLUDE A FIELDS THAT, THAT SITE, AS WELL AS A WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE SITE.
AND THE LAST ONE IS A NEW, UH, GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECT, UM, ACCOUNT THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN OUR BUDGET, UH, WHICH IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY DEVELOPMENT RENOVATIONS, UH, FOR ABOUT $2.15 MILLION.
UM, SPECIFICALLY THERE ARE THREE PROJECTS WE HAVE IN MIND FOR THE FUNDING IN THAT ACCOUNT.
UH, ONE BEING THE BENSON FIELD PROJECT, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THE BENSON FIELD PROJECT, UM, MARRINER POINT PARK, TRAIL, RENOVATION, AND REPLACEMENT AT MEREDITH POINT PARK AND THE ANITA C LIGHT ESTUARY CENTER DOING SOME TRAIL RENOVATIONS AND REPLACEMENT DOWN AT THE ESTUARY CENTER.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL, WE AWAIT YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, KIM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD TRANSFERRED SOME POSITIONS FROM PARKS AND REC TO E M E O C.
SO WHAT POSITIONS WERE THEY AT? PARKS AND REC? THOSE WERE, UM, SOME OF OUR BUILDING CARETAKER POSITIONS AND WE HAD KEPT THOSE PINS, UM, SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO WORK OUT.
UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS AGO AND SAID, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAN, BUT WE HELD ONTO THE PANS.
THEY WEREN'T FUNDED AT THAT TIME, UM, JUST IN CASE.
AND, UH, SO WE HAVE GIVEN THOSE UP BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO BE WORKING.
SO NOT THE PEOPLE JUST DEPENDS.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF PARKS AND REC.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING AT THE EMS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, COUNSEL, UH, MR. WAGON, I'D JUST LIKE TO TOUCH ON THREE THAT ARE, ARE IN THE ABERDEEN AREA.
UM, THE DEMARCO PARK, UM, THE ABERDEEN ACTIVITY CENTER AND ALSO THE ROCKLIN PARK ON ROCKLIN AND ALSO ON A DEMARCO.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE, UM, UH, PROJECTION FOR THOSE PARKS WHERE THEY DEVELOPING IN TWO FIELDS ONTO ONE, I BELIEVE IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
ROCKLAND PARK, UH, ACTUALLY IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE JUST STARTED THAT PROJECT, UH, EARLIER THIS MONTH.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, THAT PROJECT IT'LL INCLUDES FIELDS.
UH, THERE'S A WALKING TRAIL AROUND THE FIELD THERE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING AGAIN IN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY OF ABERDEEN, SO THEY'RE BRINGING FUNDING TO THE TABLE FOR A PLAYGROUND THERE.
UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WORK WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE BRINGING? JUST, UM, HANG ON.
JUST GET IT TO ME IF YOU DON'T MIND.
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ABOUT ON DEMARCO? UH, DEMARCO PARK? WE HAD PUT FUNDING IN THERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR SOME WORK, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR OFFENSE, UM, ALONG ROUTE 22.UM, SO NOW THAT THAT WORK ON ROUTE 22 IS COMPLETE.
WE NEED TO JUST GO IN THERE AND GET THAT DEFENSING COMPLETE ESSENTIALLY BEHIND THE, UH, THE GOALPOSTS THERE AND WHERE, WHERE IS THE ABERDEEN ACTIVITY CENTER IN THE PIPELINE? UH, WE JUST STARTED DESIGN.
UM, AND, UH, DO YOU WORK AT THE COUNCIL WHEN YOU WERE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING? WE HAD, UM, SO WE'RE ON THE FRONT END OF THE DESIGN WITH THAT.
UM, AND WE SHOULD BE AGAIN, AS WE START TO DO THE SITE REVIEW OR THE SITE, THE SPECIFIC SITE DESIGN, UM, WE'LL BE BACK WITH WORKING WITH THE CITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TIME.
UM, ONCE WE KIND OF REFINE THE CONCEPTS, UM, FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, WITH THE CITY, UM, AND THEN WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE AS, AS YOU KNOW, UM, WEST BELLER AVENUE IS ALSO A STATE HIGHWAY.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME STATE HIGHWAY PERMITTING AND REVIEW, AND WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE, UH, WITH REGARDS TO ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS THERE AT WEST ON WEST BELLER AVENUE FOR PURPOSES OF THE OVERALL, UH, ACCESS TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY.
AND I GUESS GIVEN, AND, YOU KNOW, IT GIVEN WHERE WE ARE IN, UH, IN, IN THE GLOBAL ASPECT THAT THE $9 MILLION WON'T COVER WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO FINISH IT UP OR GET A CLOSE TO FINISH BECAUSE OF THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING GOING UP.
SO SUBSTANTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALL GUESS AT HOW MUCH MORE THAN THAT IS IT GOING TO COST, BUT I'M SURE ONCE YOU GET STARTED ON A PROJECT, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDING'S AVAILABLE TO COMPLETE WHAT WE DECIDE AS A DESIGN.
AND THAT'S PART OF, AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT DESIGN PROCESS, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT THOSE ACTUAL, WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS GOING TO BE FOR WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR.
AND TO CERTAINLY NOBODY WANTED TO COME IN AND, AND KEEP IT TO THAT 9 MILLION AND SQUEEZE IT DOWN AND MAKE IT, THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR 9 MILLION WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING AT A VISION DOWN THERE OF, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED AND WANT FOR, FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
SO, UM, I'M SURE WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAVING FUTURE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, RIGHT.
ANYONE ELSE MR. JOHNSON? THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED EFFORTS.
UH, IN JOPPA TOWN, TRYING TO GET THE, THE REC CENTER.
I SAY MY LAST ONE, BECAUSE HE GETS ON MY NERVES.
I GIVE UP MY LAST BORN TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED EFFORT THERE.
AND SECONDLY, UM, IT'S KINDA CONVOLUTED THE, THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO PUT MONEY INTO THE BALL FIELDS AT THE SCHOOLS, LIKE WHY IS THAT? DO WE, DO WE OWN, OR DO WE MAINTAIN, HE HAS A JOINT USE AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
UM, THAT, AND PART OF THAT AGREEMENT IS THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN THOSE BALL FIELDS.
UM, AND WE ACTUALLY MOW A STRIPE, A PIECE OF THE OUTFIELD, UM, AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, BUT IN RETURN FOR THAT, WE GET INDOOR USAGE OF THEIR SCHOOL FACILITY.
SO IT IS A VERY NICE EXCHANGE.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, MR. SCHROEDER.
WELL, ON THAT NOTE, THIS IS NOT MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.
UM, UM, THE LIKE BASEBALL DIAMONDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I KNEW THAT A LOT OF THE REC COUNCILS THEMSELVES HAVE TO PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT BORROWING MACHINES AND DOING SOME OF THEIR OWN WORK TO MAKE THEM NICE.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? I GUESS I KINDA TOUCHED THE, SO SOME OF THEM ARE SCHOOL PROPERTIES, BUT IT'S PARKS AND REC, BUT IT, SOMETIMES IT ENDS UP BEING THE VOLUNTEERS WITHIN THESE PROGRAMS THAT, AND, AND A LOT OF TIMES THE VOLUNTEER, THE REASON THEY GET INVOLVED IS BECAUSE THEY WANT THOSE FIELDS AVAILABLE EARLIER THAN WE HAVE A DATE THAT WE SAY, OKAY, THEY'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO GET THEM AVAILABLE BY THAT DATE, BECAUSE WITH ALL THE BALL FIELDS IN THE COUNTY TO GET THEM ALL OPENED UP, UM, BY A CERTAIN TIME, UM, WE HAVE TO DO THAT DATE.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, IN EVERY SPORT WORLD, EVERYONE'S TRYING TO GO EARLIER.
EVERYONE'S TRYING TO GO YEAR ROUND IF THEY CAN.
SO, UM, THAT IS WHERE WE GET A LOT OF THOSE.
UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH REC COUNCILS TO PROVIDE THEM, UH, A BIG PILE OF DIRT TO, SO THAT THEY CAN SPREAD IT.
UM, WE ALSO DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME PUBLIC RELATIONS ON THIS IS THE PROPER WAY TO MAINTAIN A FIELD CAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO SWEEP OUT OF THE WATER OUT OF A FIELD, AND THAT ENDS UP CAUSING US A LOT MORE WORK TO GO BACK IN AND FIX
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THAT FIELD.UM, SO WE, WE'VE TRIED TO WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE REC COUNCILS ON, ON WHAT W WHAT'S THE HELP AND TRY TO GET THEM OPEN AS SOON AS WE CAN.
THIS SPRING HAS BEEN AWFUL BECAUSE TO GET TO THE FIELDS, WE'VE GOT TO DRIVE OVER THE F THE GRASS FIELDS, WHICH ARE ALSO OUR SOCCER FIELDS.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO WRECK THOSE FIELDS IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING TO THE BALL FIELD.
SO THIS WET GEAR SPRING HAS BEEN TOUGH.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A WAVE IN THE CONTRACTED OUT, OR IT JUST, IT'S JUST LIKE A LOT OF EXTRA, A LOT OF WORK.
ONE, THESE PEOPLE, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN GAMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, NOT ONLY IS IT PREPPING BEFORE A GAME, BUT I THINK IT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING TOURNAMENT'S IN, THAT WERE COMING FROM FAR AWAY.
YOU WANT TO MAKE IT NICE FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY WITH CONCESSIONS AND, AND HAVING NICE FIELDS, BUT, BUT, BUT THE ACTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, MANICURE, THE DIAMONDS, I'VE HEARD THAT WE WORK WITH THE REC COUNSELORS TO COMMUNICATE IF THEY ARE BRINGING IN BIG TOURNAMENT'S TO LET US KNOW, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PAYING PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THAT AREA.
UM, WHILE WE'RE STILL MAINTAINING THEM ALL.
UM, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT CONTRACTING, UM, WE HAD SOME REC COUNCILS REACH OUT TO US THIS YEAR THAT WANTED FIELDS OPENED UP, THAT THEY HAVEN'T USED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
AND THAT'S TAKES A LOT OF MANPOWER THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN SOME PRICES AND SOME QUOTES TO LOOK AT CONTRACTING THOSE SERVICES OUT, AND THEN DETERMINING WHAT MAKES SENSE WITHIN, WITHIN OUR OPERATIONS TO DO SO.
I JUST THOUGHT OF ANOTHER ONE.
UM, I KNOW IT, UH, SOMA PROPERTY.
I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING ON HERE, BUT IS, IS, UM, MARYLAND AMERICA GETTING READY TO TURN THAT OVER WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THEY DID WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO, AND NOW THAT THEY HAVE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WATER AND THE FACILITY THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THERE WAS AN MRI A YEAR THAT WAS GOING TO BE TURNED BACK TO US ALONG THE EDGE.
THIS WAS CURIOUS WHERE THAT IS.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT CAN KIND OF TIE INTO THE REST OF THE NON POP.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE, UH, TWO COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
UH, FIRST IS YES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY SECURED APPROVAL FOR PROGRAM OPEN-SPACE FUNDING TOWARDS THE PURCHASE BACK OF ABOUT 25.3 ACRES OF THE SOMA PROPERTY.
UM, WE ARE WORKING TO FINALIZE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO GO TO SETTLEMENT, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY SUBDIVIDING, WHAT WAS ONE PROPERTY WE'RE NOW SUBDIVIDING IT.
SO WE DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE COUNTY SUBDIVISION PROCESS.
SO IT'S TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN, THAN THEY, THAN WE HONESTLY ANTICIPATED, UH, INITIALLY.
UM, BUT PART OF WHAT WE ARE GETTING FROM MARYLAND AMERICAN WATER IS A PERMANENT TRAIL EASEMENT, UH, THAT WILL WORK ITS WAY, ESSENTIALLY, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY NORTH AND THEN PARALLEL THE BYPASS.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ACTUALLY MET WITH STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS TWO WEEKS AGO TO DISCUSS THEY ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT FOR DESIGN, UH, IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS.
UM, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE BRIDGES FOR BOTH THE WINTERS RUN BRIDGE OVER THE BYPASS AT THE BYPASS, AS WELL AS THE TOLLGATE ROAD, A BRIDGE, UH, AS PART OF THE BYPASS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SO ACTIVE AND PERSISTENT, FRANKLY, WITH STATE HIGHWAY IN THE LAST 17 YEARS, THAT I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT SAYING, HEY, WHEN YOU GUYS REPLACED THE BRIDGE OF A WINNER'S RUN, WE WANT TO HAVE A TRAIL CONNECTION THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THEIR PLANS.
SO IT WILL MEET UP WITH WHERE OUR EASEMENT ON SOMA PROPERTY CYBIL, AND THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE ESSENTIALLY A SHELF, A 10 FOOT WIDE TRAIL BUILT INTO, UH, ON, IN THE UNDERPASS, UM, THAT WILL, WE CAN THEN CONNECT TO THE
UM, THE OTHER PIECE IS, UM, FOR THE TOLLGATE ROAD, BECAUSE OF THE STYLE OF BRIDGE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING IT WITH.
UM, IT WILL ACTUALLY FINALLY THANKFULLY WIDEN, UM, THE PIECE OF THE MONOPOD TRAIL THAT GOES UNDER THAT BYPASS AND GOES DOWN TO ABOUT FOUR FEET WIDE.
NOW ONCE THAT REPLACEMENT OCCURS, IT WILL BE THE FULL 10 FEET WIDE.
IT WILL MINIMIZE OR IMPROVE THE SAFETY, FRANKLY, THROUGH THAT AREA.
CAUSE IF YOU'VE EVER WALKED THAT AREA, UM, YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRAIL BECAUSE THE BRIDGE ABUTMENT, THE EVER PASS ABUTMENT IS IN YOUR WAY.
SO IT'S REALLY COST A TON OF MONEY TO DO ALL THAT.
AND IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE IN THE ONE CASE
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PHIL? UM, FOR MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, UTILIZED THAT AND ENJOYED IT, UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A THERAPEUTIC REC PICKUP BALL PROGRAM.IT MAY NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE ONE THAT WAS BEFORE, UM, AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE DETAILS.
UM, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT A FEW THINGS GOING ON WITH THE ONE BEFORE.
SO I FIRMLY BELIEVE IT'LL BE A NEW AND IMPROVED TYPE OF PROGRAM, OUR NEWEST, UH, THERAPEUTIC REC, UM, INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HIRED FOR THAT POSITION, UM, IS ACTUALLY A CERTIFIED PICKLEBALL INSTRUCTOR.
SO, UM, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT HE'LL BE, UM, PUTTING ON SOME AWESOME PROGRAMS. WHEN DID HE COME ON? WHEN DID HE START OUT A MONTH AGO? OKAY.
INSTRUCTIONS, ONE THING AND DEALING WITH PEOPLE OF DISABILITIES OR DIFFERING ABILITIES IS ANOTHER THING.
AND I THINK THAT WAS WHERE THAT DISCONNECT THAT WE STARTED HEARING ABOUT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE FROM WHERE THEY HAD BEEN BEFORE.
RIGHT? WELL, THE, ACTUALLY HIS PICKLEBALL CERTIFICATION IS FAIRLY NEW.
HE HAS A LONG HISTORY OF WORKING WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.
THANK YOU, MR. WAGNER, MR. CHIN, WHERE DO I GO TO ONE? UNPICKABLE WE CAN GET YOU EXACTLY 26 COURTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UM, AND, UH, OH YEAH, YOU CAN PLAY IT ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
BUT WE DO, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A NEW, UH, CERTIFIED PICKLEBALL INSTRUCTOR AND WE WILL BE OFFERING A WHOLE LOT MORE LESSONS DOWN THE ROAD.
JUST TELL ME WHERE ACTUALLY BEGINNER CAN GO TO LEARN HOW TO ABSOLUTELY.
SO WHEN IT SNAPPED, WHEN IT SNOWS AND THE SNOWPLOWS DON'T COME, MAN, I CAN GO PLAY PICKLEBALL.
CAN I, TONY, THE PICKLE BALL PLAYERS ARE SO DEDICATED THAT WHEN IT DOES SNOW, THEY WILL GO DOWN THERE AND SHOVEL THE OUTSIDE COURTS OFF TO GET THE SNOW OFF SO THEY CAN PLAY.
UM, ALSO A BUNCH OF ITALIAN GUYS SHOWING UP.
THAT'S GOING TO SAY, HE'LL BE THE NEW BOTCHY BOBBY BALL, DEACON DRINKS IN AND EVERYTHING.
WE HAVE A BOCCE BALL COURT AT THE MCFAUL ACTIVITY CENTER, AS WELL AS THE HEAVY GRACE ACTIVITY CENTER AND THE CHENOWITH CENTER.
I WILL SAY THAT THE ONE AT THE HABIT OF GRACE ACTIVITY CENTER, IF YOU DO HAVE A GROUP THAT'S INTERESTED, IT DOES NEED SOME TENDER, LOVING CARE TO BRING IT BACK UP.
UM, BUT THE ONE AT FAULT, THE ONE AT THE CHENOWITH CENTER, UM, IS VERY ACTIVE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A GROUP THAT IS A VERY DEDICATED GROUP THAT GOES OUT THERE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND YOU SOME VOLUNTEERS TO GET THAT BACK UP AND CHECK MR. SCOTT.
I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION CONTRACTUAL SERVICES TODAY.
AND I'VE HAD COUNCILMAN JOHNSON DID EARLIER THAT I HAVEN'T, UM, PARKS AND FACILITIES, UH, ACCOUNT IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR 184,000 AND CONTRACTION SERVICES, AND THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING OVER HALF FOR THEM BALANCE UNDERSTANDING FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED I'M THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT.
WELL, AND I WISH I HAD THE MOTHER NATURE'S A CRYSTAL BALL, SO I KNEW HOW MUCH OUR SNOW WAS GOING TO COST US EVERY YEAR.
CAUSE IF WE'VE GOTTEN, WE GOT A GOOD SNOW STORM OR HEAVEN FORBID TOO.
SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO CARRY THAT, BUT I MUST SAY I DON'T BELIEVE IN SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY DOWN, UM, JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET WIPED OUT BY SNOW STORMS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND AS I SAID YESTERDAY, THERE ARE PROCESSES IN PLACE IF YOU NEED TO REPLENISH YOURSELF AND THERE'S PLENTY OF FUNDS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT.
ANYONE ELSE, MR. TIBBS? I LOVE SAYING THAT MR. TIBBS, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO ASK
AND AS WELL AS MEMBERS, OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICE TAKE CARE OF THESE OR PARKS AND REC WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE DIFFERENT? UH, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE, WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE BEING LOCATED BECAUSE WE DO SHARE, UM, WE HAVE CONTRACTED OUT.
UM, I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED IN THE PAST, A LOT OF THEM SHOW UP IN OUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS, UM, IN THOSE AREAS, THOSE ARE CONTRACTED OUT.
UM, AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, THE RATE AT WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE PERFORMING THOSE DUTIES.
UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE LANDSCAPING.
UH, PART OF THAT LANDSCAPING IS CONTRACTED OUT AND PART OF THAT IS STILL IN HOUSE AND ANYONE ELSE I KNEW, I, I I'D BEEN DISAPPOINTED.
THIS SO ADJOURN, THIS SESSION WILL START TOMORROW MORNING.
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YEAH.