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GOOD EVENING CHAIR CALLS TO ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION 0 20 22.
MASTER WATER AND SEWER PLAN FALL 2022.
UPDATE, UH, GENTLEMEN, THIS EVENING WE HAVE, UH, MR. DUNBACK WITHS.
THE FIRST SECTION IS TABLES AND GRIDS.
THERE ARE SEVEN SERVICE CATEGORY MAP CHANGES BY THE WAY OF REQUEST AND SIX MAP CHANGES PERTAINING TO FUTURE PROJECTS BEGINNING WITH REVISION ONE LOCATED IN GRID A, ONE OF THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA MAPS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF ROUTE 23 AND 24 AND FOREST HILL AND FOUND ON TAX MAP 33.
IT INCLUDES PARCEL 4 29 AND IS LOTS TWO AND THREE OF THE LAND OF C KELLY SMITH AND WIFE.
THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN HAS ENTITLED FOREST HILL ESTATES PROPOSES TO CONSOLIDATE TWO EXISTING LOTS AND THEN RE SUBDIVIDE THE LAND IN THE 70 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THIS IS A MARYLAND AMERICAN WATER CUSTOMER AND THE WASTE WASTEWATER WILL BE DISCHARGED INTO A COUNTY GRAVITY SEWER BY WAY OF PROPOSED SEWAGE PUMP STATION FORCE MAIN AND GRAVITY SEWER.
THIS PROPERTY IS BEING MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER FIVE CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY REVISION TWO AND THREE OR LOCATED IN GRID B FOUR OF THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA MAPS AND TAX MAP 56 REVISION TWO CONSISTS OF PARCEL 3 77 AND IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF ROUTE 9 24 AND PATTERSON MILL ROAD.
THE PROPERTY ENTITLED 1703 EMERTON ROAD HAS PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL FOR A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AND FUTURE RESIDENTIAL USE FOR THE REMAINING LANDS.
THE PROPERTY IS BEING MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER FIVE CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY REVISION THREE CONSISTS OF PARCEL 56 AND 60 AND IS LOCATED IN BETWEEN ROUTE 9 24 AND 24 ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF PLUM TREE ROAD.
THE PROPERTY ENTITLED BEL AIR VILLAGE HAS PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE CONSOLIDATION AND RE SUBDIVISION OF TWO PARCELS INTO SEVEN COMMERCIAL LOTS FOR RETAIL AND FUTURE MIXED USE CENTER.
THE PROJECT WAS FORMALLY KNOWN AS EVERGREEN FARMS. THIS PROPERTY IS BEING MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER FIVE CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY REVISION FOUR IS LOCATED IN GRID C FIVE OF THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA MAPS LOCATED IN ABINGTON ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SEA WELL ROAD JUST EAST OF ABINGDON ROAD.
IT CONSISTS OF PARCEL 6 27 AS FOUND ON TAX MAP 62.
THE PROPERTY ENTITLED SEA WELL ROAD RECEIVED PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL FOR FIVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
THE PROPERTY IS BEING MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER FIVE CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY.
THE LAST THREE REVISIONS FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN ARE LOCATED ON GRID D THREE OF THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA MAPS AND WERE REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF ABERDEEN.
REVISION FIVE IS LOCATED IN IN BETWEEN AL DINO, STEPHANIE ROAD AND LONG DRIVE JUST NORTH OF ROUTE 22 AND IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY OF ABERDEEN LIMITS.
IT CONSISTS OF PARCEL 96 AND 9 48 OF TAX MAP 51 AND IS BEING MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER FIVE CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY REVISION SIX IS LOCATED OFF LONG DRIVE AND ADJOINS REVISION FIVE.
IT CONSISTS OF PARCELS 9 46 AND 9 51 OF TAX MAP 51 AND IT'S BEING MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER SIX CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY.
THESE TWO PARCELS WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF ABERDEEN IN 2021.
REVISION SEVEN IS LOCATED OFF GILBERT ROAD AND IS KNOWN AS THE WETLANDS GOLF COURSE.
IT CONSISTS OF PARCELS 3 53 81 AND 3 92 OF TAX MAP 43 AND IS ALSO PARCEL 1 66 OF TAX MAP 51.
THESE PROPERTIES ARE BEING MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER NO PLAN SERVICE CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY.
THESE PROPERTIES WERE ALSO ANNEXED IN THE CITY OF ABERDEEN IN 2021.
THE DIVISION WATER SEWER CONTRACTED WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO PREPARE A WATER SYSTEM PLANNING STUDY FOR THE HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC WATER
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SYSTEM.THE PREVIOUS STUDY INCLUDED PROJECTIONS IN BUILD OUT INFORMATION THAT INVOLVED THE BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE OTHERWISE KNOWN AS BRA.
THE NEW STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN MARCH OF 2022 AND THE FINAL REPORT OUTLINES THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COUNTY WATER SYSTEM.
THIS STUDY IN THE SUBSEQUENT REPORT REVISED THE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SYSTEM TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED GROWTH WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
THE FIRST REVISION IS THE REMOVAL OF THE TRANSMISSION MAIN ALONG ROUTE 24 AND A SHORT SECTION ALONG ENTERPRISE COURT IN HICKORY.
THE NEXT IS THE REMOVAL OF A PARALLEL WATER MAIN ALONG ROUTE SEVEN, BETWEEN ROUTE 1 52 AND ROUTE 7 55.
NEXT IS THE REMOVAL OF ANOTHER PARALLEL WATER MAIN ALONG ROUTE SEVEN.
THIS, HOWEVER, IS BETWEEN ROUTE 5 43 AND EMINGTON ROAD.
FINALLY, WE HAVE THE REMOVAL OF TRANSMISSION MAIN ALONG ROUTE 40, BETWEEN ROUTE SEVEN AND BELL LANE, HEIM LANE AND ABERDEEN.
THE LAST REVISION OF THIS SECTION IS THE ADDITION OF A PROPOSED PARALLEL WATER MAIN ALONG ROUTE 7 55 FROM VAN BIBER ROAD TO ROUTE 40.
THE NEXT SECTION WILL BE CHAPTER THREE.
THE FOLLOWING FIVE PAGES IN THE WORKBOOK COVERS SECTIONS 3.01 AND 3.06.
THESE SECTIONS WERE REVISED PER THE REQUEST OF MARYLAND AMERICAN WATER COMPANY BASED ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING STUDY PREPARED FOR THEM IN 2020.
THE REVISIONS DISCUSSED THE CURRENT METHOD OF OPERATIONS TO SERVE THE TOWN OF BELL AIR.
NEXT WE HAVE MAP THREE DASH ONE.
THIS IS THE MARYLAND AMERICAN WATER SERVICE AREA MAP, AND IT HAS BEEN UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE FOREST HILL STATE SUBDIVISION THAT WAS SPOKEN OF IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION MAP THREE DASH TWO, WHICH IS THE CITY OF ABERDEEN'S WATER SERVICE AREA MAP.
THIS MAP WAS UPDATED TO INCLUDE THE FOUR PARCELS OF LAND THAT MAKE UP THE WETLANDS GOLF COURSE.
SECTION 3.13 WAS REVISED TO ADD THE THREE HARFORD COUNTY DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
THEY ARE 17,003 EMERTON ROAD FOREST TILL ESTATES AND SEA WALL ROAD.
THE FORMER EVERGREEN FARM DEVELOPMENT WAS RENAMED THE BEL AIR VILLAGE AND ITS DEVELOPMENT DATA WAS REVISED TABLE THREE DASH ONE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS WAS REVISED TO INCLUDE THE FOUR NEW PROJECTS WITH PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL AND TO REMOVE TWO PROJECTS THAT HAD THAT HAVE HAD THEIR UTILITY INSTALLATION COMPLETED.
IN ADDITION, THE EVERGREEN FARMS PROJECT WAS REMOVED FROM THE LIST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN RENAMED THE BELL AIR VILLAGE.
THE LAST PAGE OF TABLE THREE DASH ONE IS SEEN ON THE SLIDE SHOWS THE REVISIONS TO THE SUMMARY OF THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIALLY ZONE UNITS WITH APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLANS WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NET CHANGE IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS WAS IN ADDITION OF 11 UNITS WITH 3,306 UNITS REMAINING.
THERE IS ALSO AN ADDITION OF 166 EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A BUSINESS ZONE FOR A TOTAL OF 381 UNITS REMAINING.
THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE INDUSTRIAL ACREAGE.
TABLE THREE DASH TWO PRESENT AND PROJECTED WATER SUPPLY DEMANDS AND PLAN CAPACITIES.
TABLE WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE MOST CURRENT DATA AVAILABLE FROM HARFORD COUNTY AND THE MARYLAND AMERICAN WATER COMPANY.
THE REVISIONS PERTAIN TO PER CAPITA WATER CONSUMPTION, RESIDENTIAL POPULATION SERVED AND DOMESTIC INDUSTRIAL AND TOTAL CONSUMPTION.
TABLE THREE DASH THREE, THE HISTORICAL AND PREDICTED CONNECTIONS TO COUNTY WATER AND SEWER TABLE WAS UPDATED TO SHOW THE DOCUMENTED VALUES FOR THE 2021 THROUGH 2022 FISCAL YEAR, AS WELL AS THE PROJECTIVE VALUES UP TO THE YEAR 2035 TABLE THREE DASH SIX, THE INVENTORY OF EXISTING COMMUNITY AND MULTI-USE WATER SOURCE TREATMENT PLANTS AND DISTRIBUTION
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SYSTEMS. THIS TABLE WAS UPDATED PER THE REQUEST FROM THE MARYLAND AMERICAN WATER COMPANY.THE REVISIONS INCLUDE ADJUSTMENTS TO PERMIT NUMBERS, AVERAGE AND MAX AVAILABLE WATER APPROPRIATION VALUES, SAFE PLANT PRODUCTION, CAPACITY, VALUES, AND AVERAGE DAILY FLOW VALUES.
TABLE THREE DASH EIGHT PLANNED WATERWORKS, IMMEDIATE FIVE AND 10 YEAR PRIORITIES.
THIS TABLE WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE REQUEST MADE BY THE MARYLAND AMERICAN WATER COMPANY AND THE CITIES OF ABERDEEN INHAB GRACE.
THE HARFORD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER ALSO UPDATED THE CHART TO REFLECT THE FINDINGS FROM THE WATER SYSTEM PLANNING STUDY REFERRED TO IN THE FIRST SECTION OF THIS PRESENTATION.
AS STATED BEFORE, SOME OF THESE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ARE DIRECT RESULT OF THE BRA NOT COMING TO FRUITION.
THE TABLE IN THIS WORKBOOK INCLUDES ONLY THE PROJECTS TO WHICH CHANGES ARE PROPOSED.
A COMPREHENSIVE TABLE SHOWING ALL CAPITAL WATER PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY AND THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER THREE OF THE OVERALL WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT.
MOVING ON TO CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.10, PRIVATE MULTI-USE SEWAGE SYSTEMS AND PUBLICLY OWNED ONSITE SEWAGE SYSTEMS WITH PEAK FLOWS GREATER THAN 5,000 GALLONS PER DAY WAS REVISED TO ADD THE CAMPUS COMMONS PROJECT, EXCUSE ME, CAMPUS COMMONS IS LOCATED AT 2215 EAST CHURCHVILLE ROAD ACROSS THE STREET FROM HAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
THIS SITE CONTAINS ONE BUILDING WITH A PEAK FLOW OF APPROXIMATELY 1800 GALLONS PER DAY AND IS SERVED BY AN ONSITE PRIVATE SEP PRIVATE SEPTIC SYSTEM WITH A PROPOSED BUILDING WE'RE BUILDINGS.
THE SITE IS ANTICIPATED TO PRODUCE A TOTAL ULTIMATE AVERAGE FLOW OF 4,200 GALLONS PER DAY IN A PEAK OR MAXIMUM DAILY FLOW OF 7,000 GALLONS PER DAY.
MDE REQUIRES THAT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A GROUNDWATER DISCHARGE PERMIT, THE PROJECT, THE PROPOSED PROJECT BE IDENTIFIED IN THE WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN.
IT IS ALSO STATED IN THE DESCRIPTION THAT WHEN FINAL CALCULATIONS OF THE DISCHARGE ARE PROVIDED, THE COUNTY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO OBJECT THE PROPOSED FACILITY AND REMOVE IT FROM THIS PLAN.
IF IT DOES NOT MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS OF STATE AND LOCAL LAW.
MAP FOUR DASH TWO, THE CITY OF ABERDEEN SEWER SERVICE AREA, THIS WOULD RISE TO INCORPORATE THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT MAKE UP THE WETLAND GOLF COURSE TABLE FOUR DASH TWO PLAN CAPITAL SEWAGE PROJECTS IMMEDIATE FIVE AND 10 YEAR PRIORITIES.
THIS TABLE WILL RISE TO INCORPORATE THE REQUEST FROM THE CITIES OF ABERDEEN INHAB GRACE.
THE TABLE IN THIS WORKBOOK INCLUDES ONLY THE PROJECTS TO WHICH CHANGES ARE PROPOSED.
A COMPREHENSIVE TABLE SHOWING ALL CAPITAL SEWERS PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY AND THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER FOUR OF THE OVERALL WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT EXHIBIT FOUR DASH ONE HARFORD COUNTY EXISTING AND FUTURE SEWAGE SYSTEMS. THIS IS BEING REVISED TO SHOW THE FEWER FUTURE SEWER PUMP STATION FOR THE FOREST HILL STATE SUBDIVISION IS DESCRIBED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION.
IN ADDITION, THE OAK GROVE SEWAGE PUMP STATION IS BEING REMOVED DUE TO, DUE TO A DESIGN CHANGE THAT ALLOWS GRAVITY SEWER TO SERVE THE AREA.
THE FINAL SECTION IN THE WORKBOOK OR THE WRITTEN REQUEST FOR THE REVISIONS FROM THE VARIOUS ENTITIES.
THAT CONCLUDES THE 2022 FALL WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE.
THANK YOU MR. ECK, FOR YOUR, UM, PRESENTATION.
UM, COUNSEL AT THIS TIME'S YOUR TIME FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, ANYONE, MR. JANNA? SO GOOD AFTERNOON, ECK.
HOW ARE YOU? UM, ON, I GUESS IT'S PROBABLY THIS, UH, GRID B FOUR COUPLE REVISIONS ON THAT REVISION TWO AND REVISION THREE.
IS THAT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE FIREHOUSE IN, UH, PATTERSON MIDDLE HIGH SCHOOL DOWN THERE? IS THAT YES, IT IS.
SO THERE'S A STREAM BED THAT GOES DOWN THERE.
UM, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THE SEWER LINE? BECAUSE THAT STREAM HAS BEEN ERODING ALL THE WAY BACK INTO SOME OF THE PEOPLE'S LOTS.
SO WHERE IS THE SEWER LINE GONNA GO? I DON'T, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALREADY CONNECTED TO SEWER, UM, THAT I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT.
THAT CORNER LOT WASN'T SEWER, SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SEWER.
THERE, THERE IS A PROPOSED SEWER THAT GOES THROUGH THE BACK.
UM, THEY'LL HAVE TO TAKE, DO TYPICAL, UM,
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PRECAUTIONS, TAKE THE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STREAM IS PROTECTED.WELL, THAT, THAT STREAM HAS BEEN DETERIORATING OVER THE LAST, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
WE'VE GOTTEN SOME CALLS FROM, UM, CONCERNED CITIZENS THAT IT'S FLOWED INTO THE BACKYARD OR, OR IT'S DETERIORATING INTO THE BACKYARD AT AN ALARMING RATE.
SO I'M WONDERING WHERE THE SEWER LINE'S GONNA GO, WHERE THAT CONNECTS TO.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANYWHERE THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THAT SEWER LINE'S GOING AND, AND WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEN FIXING THE STREAMED BEFORE THEY PUT A SEWER LINE IN? THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN SHOWS THE SEWER CONNECTION, AND THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ENGINEERS TO PROVIDE ALL THE ADEQUATE, UM, PROTECTION OF THE STREAMED.
AND THAT TYPICALLY THE IDEA IS TO MAKE IT AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN IT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO THE COUNTY WILL PAY FOR THE REVITALIZATION OF THE STREAM BED? CORRECT.
THAT WOULD BE DONE THROUGH PRIVATE ENTITIES.
THROUGH, SO WHOEVER'S GONNA PUT THAT STREAM BED, UH, THAT WHOEVER, ONCE THAT SEWER IN THERE IS GONNA HAVE TO FIX THE STREAM BED, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND HOW DO I GET A COPY OF THAT? IS THAT SOMEWHERE THAT I CAN GET A COPY OF WHAT THAT PLAN LOOKS LIKE? YES, THEY'RE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE P AND Z WEBSITE.
THE P AND WHAT? PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND YOU CAN GO TO THE, UH, D D AGENDAS AND THEN IN, THERE'S LINKS THAT TAKES YOU TO THE PRELIMINARY PLANS.
SO REVISION THREE IS TO CREATE A COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING, BUT THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE SOME RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.
THE PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL WAS JUST FOR SEVEN LOTS.
IT WAS JUST A PRELIMINARY PLAN.
UM, CURRENTLY THERE IS TWO DAC PLANS THAT ARE IN CIRCULATION RIGHT NOW THAT SHOW THAT, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AS WELL FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL, DOES THAT MEAN MORE OR DIFFERENT SEWER LINES? WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN WHEN THEY COME BACK AND THEY WANT MORE? WHAT HA WHAT WHAT GOES ON THERE FOR THAT? WE HAVE TO INVESTIGATE IT.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS AND SEE IF THEY'RE ADEQUATE AND SEE IF THEY MEET ALL OF OUR STANDARDS.
I THOUGHT THE ORIGINAL D I I KNOW I WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DAC MEETING AND I KNOW THERE WAS APPROVAL FOR MIXED USE AND AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, BUT YOU'RE SAYING HERE, THERE IS NO APARTMENT COMPLEX, IT'S JUST COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING.
WHAT WAS APPROVED? AS FAR AS I KNOW, FOR THE RECENT DAC PLAN THAT CAME THROUGH AND IT WAS APPROVED, IT WAS JUST FOR THE SUBDIVISION OF THE, IT WAS THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE TWO PARCELS AND THEN RE SUBDIVISION IN THE SEVEN LOTS.
WHEN WAS THIS DONE? THAT WHAT I'M SPEAKING OF THE SEVEN LOTS.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
SOMETHING'S NOT JIVING THAT FOR ME.
IT JUST, I KNOW I SAW THE D PLAN WHERE THEY HAD APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THAT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
SO EITHER THIS IS BEHIND OR SOMETHING'S THERE.
WHERE DO I FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT SAME THING.
PLANNING AND ZONE IS GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I KNOW THAT THE PLANS THAT ARE SHOWING ALL OF WHAT'S GOING IN THERE.
YEAH, THE RETAIL BUILDINGS AND THE, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, CORRECT.
ARE IN THE, THEY IN CIRCULATION RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED FOR THE WATER IN, FOR THE CORRECT WATER OR TWO.
ANYONE ELSE? WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT AND HELP HIM? HE'LL, HE'LL DO THAT ON HIS OWN.
UM, MS. DICKSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? THERE IS NO SPEAKERS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND UH, THIS WILL BE TAKEN UP AT A FUTURE MEETING.
THIS WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ZERO 20 DASH 22.
AND IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO, UH, START, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 22 DASH ZERO 19.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, GETS YOU A CALL TOMORROW, GIVE YOU UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.
SO COUNCIL, I'M HERE BEFORE YOU AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO, UM, EXTEND THE, UH, UH, TEMPORARY MORATORIUM WE PUT IN PLACE FOR OUTDOOR DINING.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, UH, THE, UH, PANDEMIC, UM, WE, UH, HAD INTENDED TO LOOK AT THE CODE AND, UH, DETERMINE WHETHER WE SHOULD DO SOME THINGS ON MORE PERMANENT BASIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE OUTDOOR DINING HAS BEEN AN ADVANTAGE FOR PEOPLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WANNA MAINTAIN THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING.
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UM, AND THERE'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT TO IT.UM, BUT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE FELT THAT THE, UH, BEST WAY TO HANDLE THAT WAS WE'D GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM FOR ANOTHER YEAR, WHICH WOULD ALLOW A, UH, NEW COUNCIL AND NEW ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, SHOULD BE LOOKED AT ON A MORE PERMANENT BASIS OR ALLOWED TO EXPIRE, UM, AT THE END OF 23.
UM, AND WE ALL CAN ATTEST TO THE BENEFIT THAT IT BROUGHT TO OUR BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT COVID.
COUNCILMAN, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. BONNA FACE? MS. DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE HAVE ONE.
MR. PRESIDENT, MR. KOEL NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
JOSH KOEL PO BOX 4 52, BOSTON, MARYLAND.
UM, KNOW WHERE TO START, BUT I GUESS THE VERY FIRST LINE HERE, AN EMERGENCY ACT.
WE'RE NOT IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION ANYMORE.
UNDERSTAND THE PANDEMIC, UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE SITUATIONS AND UNDERSTAND BEING HEALTHY BUSINESS OR HEALTHY TO OUR BUSINESSES AROUND HERE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN TURN A PROFIT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS DOING.
THIS IS PANDERING TO A PANDEMIC THAT IS OVER.
IT'S BEEN CLARIFIED BY THE CDC.
EVEN JOE BIDEN SAYS IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NEEDED.
AND AGAIN, WHAT MR. BONNA FACE SAID HERE IS, WE LOOKED AT LOOKING AT MORE PERMANENT SITUATIONS.
WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU ACT ON THE PERMANENT SITUATIONS INSTEAD OF SITTING BACK AND NOT DOING ANYTHING? AND ESPECIALLY HERE AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THESE THINGS PERMANENT, MAKE THEM PERMANENT, STOP PANDERING AND GOING TO THE, UM, EMERGENCY ACTS TO PUSH SOMETHING THROUGH.
YES, IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT IN THE COUNTY FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
BUT TO USE A PANDEMIC TO DO SO IS QUITE CONCERNING.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE.
THE CAPACITY TO OPEN UP THESE RESTAURANTS INITIALLY BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, BEFORE INTRODUCING THESE OUTDOOR DINING, UH, PLACES, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY REQUIRED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING SPOTS.
THEY, THEY HAD TO MEET SOME CRITERIA.
AND IT'S ALSO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, SOME OF THESE RESTAURANTS AREN'T MEETING THAT CRITERIA ANYMORE, BUT THEY ARE NOW HAVING EXTENDED HOURS, OR EXCUSE ME, EXTENDED PLACES OUTSIDE TO EAT THE RESTRICTIONS INSIDE THE EVERY OTHER TABLE WHERE EVERY OTHER SEAT, SIX FEET HERE AND SIX FEET THERE, THEY'RE NOT THERE.
THE BUILDINGS ARE PACKED INSIDE AND PACKED OUTSIDE.
UM, SO HOW CAN THAT BE? ARE THEY STILL, ARE THEY VIOLATING WHAT THEY, UH, WERE INTENDED TO BE AT THE BEGINNING? AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GLAD THAT MR. BONNA FACE IS HERE.
MAYBE, UM, HE CAN ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS OR MR. GLASSMAN CAN COME GIVE AN ACTUAL PRESENTATION.
BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, LAST YEAR, GOVERNOR HOGAN IN SAID THAT HE RECOMMENDS THAT THIS GETS EXTENDED THIS YEAR.
HE WAS DEAD SILENT, DIDN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT SAYS, SAYS HERE, WHEREAS DUE TO THE CONTINUED SPREAD OF COVID 19, I WANT SOME EVIDENCE AND I WANT SOME INFORMATION FROM THE PERSON THAT IS RECOMMENDING THIS.
WHETHER IT BE MR. GLASSMAN OR MR. BONNA FACE, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, AGAIN, FINDS IT NECESSARY TO CONTINUE TO FACILITATE AND ENCOURAGE THE CONTINUATION OF SOCIAL DISTANCE AND, AND THE OPERATION OF OUTDOOR SEATING AREAS AT RESTAURANTS, BARS, BREWERIES, NIGHTCLUBS TO AGAIN, RENEW THE TEMPORARY MORATORIUM WHEN THE APPLICATION OF CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF THE HARFORD COUNTY ZONING, UH, CODE TO ENCOURAGE OUTDOOR DINING.
SO I WOULD ASK YOU GUYS TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT IF YOU WANT IT TO HAPPEN, MAKE IT PERMANENT, BUT STOP PANDERING AROUND FOR THREE STRAIGHT YEARS ON A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM.
ANYONE ELSE? MS. D? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.
MR. BOND FACED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, THIS WILL BE LOOKED AT AT A FUTURE MEETING AND THIS WILL CONCLUDE, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR 22 0 19.
AND NOW, BILL 22 DASH ZERO 20.
VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER LENGTH OF SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM, MR. SANLESS.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UM, ROBBIE SANLESS, HARTFORD COUNTY TREASURER.
THE, UH, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS PROPOSING SOME CHANGES, UH, TO LO LSAP, WHICH JUST STANDS FOR THE LENGTH OF SERVICE AWARD PROGRAM FOR OUR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS.
AND THE CHANGES DEAL WITH LOWERING THE AGE, UM, AT WHICH A VOLUNTEER, UM, WHEN AT WHICH LOWERING THE AGE, UH, FOR A VOLUNTEER, WHEN HE OR SHE CAN START RECEIVING BENEFITS AS WELL AS REMOVAL OF THE CAP FOR THE TOTAL MONTHLY BENEFIT AMOUNT.
SO, JUST A REAL QUICK KIND OF BRIEF EXPLANATION ABOUT LOW SSAP.
IT'S A NON-CONTRIBUTORY, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT COUNTY FUNDED OR LESS AUGMENT TO THE VOLUNTEER.
UM, UH, FIRE SYSTEM PROVIDES A MONTHLY CASH BENEFIT TO VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE MET BOTH SERVICE AND AGE REQUIREMENTS.
THE SERVICE REQUIREMENT IS TO EARN 50 POINTS IN THE YEAR.
UH, AND POINTS CAN BE EARNED IN VARIOUS WAYS FROM GOING OUT ON A,
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ON A CALL TO SERVE ON COMMITTEE, UH, TRAINING, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU.SO IF YOU EARN 50 POINTS, YOU HAVE ONE YEAR OF OF SERVICE.
THE CURRENT PROGRAM PROVIDES $13 FOR THE FIRST 25 YEARS, UH, AND $6 FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS TO A MAXIMUM OF 4 75.
WE BUMPED UP THE FIRST 25 YEARS, UM, TO $13 FROM $12 WAS PART OF A COLA INITIATIVE.
UM, SO AN INDIVIDUAL CAN START COLLECTING WHEN THEY HAVE 25 YEARS, UM, AT AGE 55 OR 10 YEARS AT AGE 70.
SO THIS NEW PROPOSAL, UH, LOWERS THAT AGE REQUIREMENT TO 50 YEARS WITH 25 YEARS OR 60 YEARS WITH 10 YEARS.
SO THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE SERVICE REQUIREMENT, ONLY IN THE AGE REQUIREMENT.
UH, THE PROPOSAL WOULD ALSO DO AWAY WITH THE CAP.
SO IF AN INDIVIDUAL CONTINUES TO VOLUNTEER, THAT INDIVIDUAL'S MONTHLY PAYMENT WOULD INCREASE BY RATE OF $6 A YEAR.
SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE ABOUT 2000 VOLUNTEERS IN THE SYSTEM AND OF THAT AMOUNT, ABOUT 515 ARE RECEIVING BENEFITS.
455 OF THEM ARE, UM, UH, THE PRIMARY VOLUNTEER AND THEN 60 ARE SURVIVING SPOUSES BENEFICIARIES.
UM, THE SURVIVING SPOUSES RECEIVE 75% OF THE DECEASED SPOUSES PAYOUT.
NOW, THAT WAS ANOTHER CHANGE WE MADE A FEW YEARS AGO.
SO THE CHANGE IN AGE ELIGIBILITY WILL MEAN THAT 132 INDIVIDUALS NOT CURRENTLY ELIGIBLE WILL BECOME SO, SO, 87 OF THEM WILL BE DUE TO THE CHANGE, UH, FROM, UH, UH, 70 TO 60 AND 45 DUE TO THE CHANGE FROM 55 YEARS, UH, OLD TO 50.
AND ALMOST ALL OF THE REMAINING VOLUNTEERS WILL BE ELIGIBLE, START COLLECTING BENEFITS, UM, IN THE FUTURE AT A SOONER DATE THAN THEY OTHERWISE WOULD'VE.
UH, THERE'S ALSO ABOUT 36 EMPLOYEES, UH, WHO HAVE MAXED OUT AT THAT, UM, UH, 50 YEARS OF SERVICE, THAT 4 75 AMOUNT WHO WOULD BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR THE HIGHER, UH, MONTHLY PAYOUTS.
NOW, THE EXACT BENEFITS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS WILL KIND OF VARY.
UH, YOU COULD HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S, WHO HAS, UH, UH, 50 YEARS OF SERVICE NOW.
SO WHEN ADDITIONAL $6 A MONTH, UH, TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO JUST BECAME ELIGIBLE UNDER THE 25 YEAR SERVICE, UH, PROVISION, AND WE'LL BE RECEIVING A, UM, A BENEFIT OF, OF 3 25.
SO SOMEWHERE IN THOSE, THOSE VARIES FOR, FOR ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
UM, AND ANY OF THESE CHANGES WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE, UH, WITH THE PAYMENTS, UH, GOING OUT IN THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY.
AGAIN, IT'S A, UH, 60 MONTH AFTER, 60 DAYS AFTER THE LEGISLATION HAS PASSED.
UM, SO THE COST OF ALL THESE CHANGES IS, IS NOT JUST AS SIMPLE AS, AS THE EXTRA BENEFITS GOING OUT, UM, THIS YEAR OR NEXT.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A DEDICATED TRUST WHEREBY WE IN, WE INVEST THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION TO LOW SAP SO THAT WE WILL HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, NOT JUST TO PAY, UH, WHAT THE CURRENT BENEFICIARIES ARE RECEIVING TODAY, BUT SO THAT WE CAN PAY, UH, WHAT THE CURRENT VOLUNTEERS ARE EARNING TODAY, BUT WON'T BE PAID OUT FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTION TO THE TRUST NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR WE DO AN ACTUARIAL ANALYSIS.
AND WHEN THERE IS A PROPOSED SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.
UH, WE DO ANOTHER ACTUARIAL ANALYSIS FOR THAT.
SO THE CHANGES, UM, THAT WE'VE SPOKE ABOUT HERE TODAY, UH, UH, WILL COST THE ANNUAL REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION TO INCREASE BY $734,000 OVER WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, WITH MOST OF THAT COST, ABOUT 700,000 OF IT, UH, COMING FROM THE CHANGE IN THE AGE REQUIREMENT.
AND IN ABOUT 30,000 OF IT FROM THE ELIMINATION OF, OF THE CAP FOR THE LONG TIME VOLUNTEERS, NEARLY ALL OF THAT 734,000, ALSO ABOUT 700,000, UM, IS FOR THE PRIOR SERVICE THAT WAS ALREADY EARNED BUT NOT FUNDED.
UM, THAT'S YOUR KIND OF YOUR UNFUNDED LIABILITY AS OPPOSED TO YOUR CURRENT YEAR SERVICE, YOUR, YOUR NORMAL COST.
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING BACK AND WE'RE SAYING THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, IF THEY HAD THAT PRIOR SERVICE FROM YEARS PAST, THEY WOULD THEN BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR THAT, THAT PAYMENT.
SO WE HAVE TO MAKE UP THAT, THAT GAP.
UM, NOW OVER TIME THAT UNFUNDED LIABILITY WILL GO AWAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO, TO FUND THE PROGRAM CONTINUES TO, TO FUND IT, YOU KNOW, EACH AND EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS SOMETHING I WOULD EXPECT.
THAT'S ALWAYS A POINT WE MAKE TO THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES EACH AND EVERY YEAR.
HOW HARTFORD FUNDS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ITS TRUST OBLIGATIONS, WHETHER IT'S OEV OR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PENSION OR THE LOW SSAP SYSTEM.
NOW THE ANNUAL COST, UM, FROM YEAR TO YEAR WILL VARY KIND OF DUE TO A HOST OF ASSUMPTIONS CHANGING FROM MORTALITY, UM, TO THE EXPECTED RETURN, OUR INVESTMENTS TO THE ACTUAL PERFORMANCE OF OUR INVESTMENTS.
UM, SO WITH ALL OF THESE CHANGES, THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION, UM, IS ABOUT $2 MILLION.
IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE LESS, THAT'S LESS THAN IT IS, UM, THIS YEAR AND ABOUT THE SAME AS WHAT IT WAS, UM, IN YEARS PAST.
NOW AS WE GET INTO THE FUTURE, AGAIN, LOTS OF UNCERTAINTY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, PARTICULARLY WITH WITH INVESTMENTS.
SO YEAH, WE, WE, WE, WE MAY VERY WELL SEE, KNOW THE COSTS KIND OF GO UP, UM, GO UP SOMEWHAT IN SOME YEARS AND KIND OF, AND KIND OF SWING BACK DOWN.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE TAKE THESE, THESE FUNDS INTO THIS TRUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INVESTING FOR, UM, WE'RE INVESTING FOR THE LONG HAUL.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN THE BENEFICIARY OF SOME, SOME VERY STRONG INVESTMENT YEARS AND, UM, ALSO SOME CHALLENGING INVESTMENT YEARS.
SO CURRENTLY THE PLAN IS FUNDED, UM, ABOVE A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, AT 109%.
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AREN'T ENACTED, WE WOULD STILL BE AT THE 94% FUNDED LEVEL.IT'S STILL A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO BE.
REALLY, ANYTIME YOU'RE OVER 80% IS A GOOD, GOOD PLACE TO BE.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, JUST TO ALWAYS REMIND THAT ANY OF THE FUNDS IN THE LOW SEP TRUST CAN ONLY BE USED FOR LOEP.
SO ONCE WE PUT 'EM IN THERE, THEY CAN'T BE REALLOCATED TO ANY OTHER MEANS, YOU KNOW, RETURN TO THE GENERAL FUND OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
MR. SANDS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU, UH, FORMALIZE YOUR PRESENTATION AND SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WOULD YOU PLEASE, UM, COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, MR. WOODS.
THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU MR. SANDS.
IN FACT, ODDLY ENOUGH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A WEEKEND A HALF AGO OR TWO WEEKS AGO AT THE AIRPORT.
SO THAT WAS, WENT THROUGH A LOT OF IT.
ALSO, WANNA TAKE TIME COUNCIL MEMBERS WANNA THANK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICE THAT ARE OVER IN THE CORNER THERE.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT BILL FOR US, IS AN IMPORTANT, UH, THING TO HELP WITH RETENTION, RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.
ESPECIALLY IF THE DEPARTMENTS GET OUT AND PUT THE INFORMATION OUT, WE CAN USE IT AS A RECRUITING TOOL.
I ALSO WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION, MR. BONNA FACE, AND YOU OF COURSE FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER AND BRINGING THIS UP HERE.
PAST, WE'VE TRIED TO GET THIS THROUGH AND PUT IT ON, BUT THERE WAS HURDLES WITH SEEING WITH THAT $2 MILLION A YEAR AND COMING UP WITH THAT.
BUT THIS, UH, THIS IS DEFINITELY WELCOME AND NEEDED.
I DO ENCOURAGE THE FIRE SERVICE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THIS AS A RECRUITMENT TOOL, PROVIDING US GOS THROUGH.
UH, I KNOW IT ONLY HITS A CERTAIN AGE GROUP AND SEGMENT THAT THIS WORKS AT WHEN I JOINED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WHEN I WAS 16, I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT LOS APP.
IN FACT, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE I WAS COLLECTING IT WHEN I FIRST JOINED.
AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS AT THE TIME SAID, OH, YOU'RE NOT EVEN ELIGIBLE TO GET IT UNTIL YOU TURN 21.
THEY RECENTLY FIXED THAT FROM 16 TO TO 21.
AND SO I, I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF I WAS GONNA BE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT LONG, OF COURSE.
AND HERE ALMOST 30 YEARS LATER.
UM, BUT I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT HIT IN THE LITTLE BIT LATER LINES OF LIFE AND WE CAN RETAIN THEM AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE MY THOUGHT ON IT.
I'VE ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT THE BRINGING IT TO AGE 50 FOR ONE REASON.
THE GUYS THAT ARE MEN AND WOMEN ARE BETWEEN 50 AND 60, THEY'RE STILL STRONG, READY TO GO, CAN RUN FIRE CALLS AND OUTRUN A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I DO WORRY THAT SOMETIMES THAT MIGHT AFFECT THAT, BUT I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH TOOLS TO, TO KEEP THEM ENGAGED AND KEEP THEM COMING BACK.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH OF A WORRY TO MAKE ME PUT AN AMENDMENT OR CHANGE OR, OR THAT I DON'T, I THINK THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT MIGHT SAY, HEY, I'M AT 50 AND I'M NEVER GONNA COME TO THE VOLUNTEER FIREHOUSE AGAIN.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING EACH COMPANY DEPARTMENT CAN TAKE CARE OF INTERNALLY TOO AND FIX.
I'M ALSO GLAD TO SEE, UH, THE EXTRA PIECE THAT EXTENDS IT.
I KNOW IT WAS IMPORTANT TO A COUPLE OF MY MEMBERS AND OTHER MEMBERS ACROSS THE COUNTY, SO THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL AND THAT WILL DEFINITELY KEEP THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE STICKING AROUND OUR FIRE SERVICE BECAUSE JUST CUZ SOMEONE CAN'T HOP ON THE FIRE TRUCK OR THE AMBULANCE ANYMORE, THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND THE WHAT WE NEED THEM BACK TO HELP PAY THE BILLS AND KEEP THE STATION OPEN AND RUNNING IS JUST AS CRITICAL.
SO REALLY NO BIG QUESTIONS OTHER THAN, UH, THE 2 MILLION TOTAL.
THAT'S A TOTAL AMOUNT WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE ARC, UM, WITH THE A WITH THE TOTAL ARC IS.
AND THEN IF WE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE THESE CHANGES, THE ARC WOULD HAVE BEEN 2.1, 0.2, 1.3.
SO INSTEAD IT'LL BE, UH, A 2 MILLION.
WHICH AGAIN, EVEN THAT ARC THOUGH WAS LOWER THAN IT'S BEEN IN SOME OTHER PREVIOUS YEARS BECAUSE OF THE FLUCTUATION INVESTMENTS.
LIKE UP UNTIL THIS YEAR WE WERE DOING REALLY WELL WITH INVESTMENTS RIGHT NOW.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A RECRUITMENT TOOL.
WE CAN USE EVERY RECRUITMENT TOOL TO KEEP GOING FORWARD.
FOLLOW THROUGH FIRE SERVICE IS OUR BEST THING.
AND I PROMISE YOU IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO STAY STRONG, IS LONG AS WE CAN POSSIBLY TAKE IT INTO THE FUTURE.
AND IF THAT MEANS NEW RECRUITING TOOLS AND, AND, UH, TAX, TAX CREDITS IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO KEEP MEMBERS IN AND BRINGING THEM IN, IT'S SOMETHING THIS COUNCIL AND THIS COUNTY HAS TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
UH, MR. BONNA FACE, UM, I CAN TELL YOU MAY BE GETTING A REQUEST TO ADD NAMES TO THAT.
THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WOULD WELCOME ANY FUNDS.
I'LL PUT ALL IF YOU WERE MR. BU.
DID YOU WANT, OH NO, I'M SORRY MR. SHROVE, I JUST WANNA, UH, THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND EMS, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT THING BECAUSE, UM, YOU JUST LOOK OUT IN THE CROWD.
YOU DON'T SEE TOO MANY YOUNGER FOLKS.
I DO SEE A FEW AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET YOUR FRIENDS INVOLVED WITH THIS AND UM, CAUSE WE KNOW IT WOULD COST THE HECK OF A LOT MORE IF WE HAD TO HAVE A PAID FIRE SERVICE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY, UM, DOING, UM, PAID EMS AND I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT MOVE THERE BECAUSE, UM, WHEN YOU'RE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND YOU'RE MAKING THAT CALL, YOU WANT
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SOMEBODY TO SHOW UP.IT'S A PARAMEDIC AND AN AMBULANCE.
AND EACH DAY I DROP MY DAUGHTER OFF AT WORK, AT WORK, AT SCHOOL.
UM, I, UH, SEE THE PROGRESS, UM, DOWN AT BUSH'S CORNER BY THE NORTH HARTFORD, UH, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT.
I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO HELP THINGS UP IN THE NORTH END.
BUT THE MORE WE CAN DO WITH INITIATIVES LIKE THIS AND OTHER INITIATIVES, THE BETTER WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE.
SO JUST PLEASE EXTEND MY THANKS TO HIM ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR MEMBERS THAT SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
MR. JAN, DAN, THANK YOU, ROBBIE.
UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT YOU SPEWED OUT A LOT OF NUMBERS, SO I CAUGHT SOME OF THEM, BUT, UH, BUT DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.
THE ONE THING I PICKED UP ON WAS, I THINK YOU SAID YOU PUT A COLA IN THIS YEAR OR SOMETHING FOR THAT.
THIS, THIS UNDER THIS COUNCIL, UM, UH, WE MORE OR LESS IT TRANSLATED TO ABOUT A 20, AN EXTRA $25, UH, A MONTH WE WENT, UM, THE FIRST 25 YEARS WENT FROM $12 TO $13.
WHY CAN'T THAT BE IN THERE EVERY YEAR? DOES THAT AMENDMENT HAVE TO BE ADDED TO THIS TO GIVE THAT COLA BASED ON, SINCE THE INFLATION HAS GONE UP, TRAMA, UH, TREMENDOUSLY, CAN WE MAKE AN AMENDMENT, PUT A COLA IN THERE? AND CAN YOU TELL US HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT NEXT YEAR? I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO THEN DO, IF YOU HAD AN AUTOMATIC COLA, WE WOULD NEED TO DO ANOTHER ACTUARIAL ANALYSIS.
IT'S LIKE WITH ANYTHING, I MEAN, EVERYTHING THEN REQUIRES ADDITIONAL, UM, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO WHAT EXTENT THAT WOULD BE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DIFFICULT.
IT WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE A DECENT FISCAL NOTE ATTACHED, ATTACHED TO IT.
UM, CAN, CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD BE? UM, IS THAT TOO HARD TO DO? OR WHAT? WELL, I MEAN, WHEN WE WENT, SO THE LAST TIME THAT WE DID THE, THE, THE, THE, AND AGAIN, THINGS KIND OF, KIND OF FLUCTUATED.
IT WAS, IT ENDED UP COSTING THE, THE, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT CAUSE WE KINDA HAVE MULTIPLE PARTS KIND OF MOVING.
UM, CUZ WE ALSO CHANGED THE, UM, UH, THE KIND OF THE ASSUMED RATE OF RETURN AND THERE WERE SOME OTHER FACTORS.
UM, BUT THE ACTUARIAL ANALYSIS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, THE COLA AND THE UM, UH, THE SURVIVING SPOUSE CHANGE, UH, CHANGE THE, THE ARC FROM $2 MILLION TO 2.8.
AND THEN, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, THROUGH SOME OTHER CHANGES, IT CAME, IT CAME BACK DOWN TO TWO.
SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING IN THAT COMPARABLE RANGE IN, IN A, AGAIN, ANOTHER 700,000, 800,000.
BUT THEN IF YOU HAD A, A ONGOING COLA, UM, THEN THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERABLE TO THAT.
CUZ THEN THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CHANGE EVERY YEAR.
SO IF YOU HAD A, WHATEVER IT WAS, SO WHAT IF YOU DID A COLA THAT WAS MAYBE AFTER TWO OR THREE YEARS INSTEAD, BECAUSE HOW LONG WAS IT BEFORE THAT? WE DID A COLA INCREASE THE LAST TIME IT WAS A DECENT AMOUNT OF A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND WE ALL KNOW $25 FIVE YEARS AGO ISN'T $25 TODAY.
AND I KNOW THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT IN MAYBE THE CHANGE, BUT IT CERTAINLY WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG RUN.
LIKE COUNCILMAN WOULD SIT OVER HERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THAT IN THE LONG RUN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT THAT AMOUNT WHERE SOMETHING, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, WHERE WE COULD PUT IN FOR THREE OR FOUR YEAR CHANGE.
MAYBE NOT IT'S AN AUTOMATIC EVERY YEAR, BUT MAYBE THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR FOUR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN DISCUSS WITH, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEW ADMINISTRATION, NEW COUNCIL, GET OUT DOING THAT TYPE OF ACTUARIAL STUDY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE IN A WEIRD SITUATION RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE INVESTMENT MARKETS, UM, UH, AND, AND THE LIKE.
AND AGAIN, ANYTHING THAT, THAT, UM, ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE, ANYTHING THAT RAISES THAT ARC IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FUNDS THAT CAN'T BE USED THEN FOR OTHER THINGS.
WHETHER IT'S, UH, OPERATING FUNDS FOR THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY AND LIKE, NOT, NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A, UM, A WORTHWHILE INITIATIVE, BUT, UM, WE, WELL, I HAVE, I KNOW ANOTHER PLACE WHERE I CAN GET MONEY, BUT I'M NOT GONNA BRING THAT UP RIGHT NOW.
I THINK WHEN WE ADJUSTED THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK WE ADDED WORD THAT SAID IT HAD TO BE REVIEWED EVERY SO OFTEN.
I THINK WE ADDED SOMETHING LIKE INSTEAD IT JUST BEING WHENEVER THE COUNTY EXEC CALLS ON IT.
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT I THOUGHT WE, IT'S SUBJECT TO ANNUAL APPROPRIATION.
I CAN LOOK BACK IN THE, IN THE LEGISLATION AND AGAIN, WE DO A, UM, AN ACTUARY ANALYSIS EACH AND EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? SO, UM, WELL MAYBE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT LIKE EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS WE REVIEW IF A, IF A POLL IS NEEDED, RIGHT? I THINK SOMETHING I JUST TRIGGERS THAT TO LOOK AT.
THAT, THAT WAS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
NO, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, UH, AGAIN TO, UH, THANK THE ADMINISTRATION, UM,
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FOR BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD, BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANKED OUR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS FOR THE SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE EACH AND EVERY DAY.WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO AS FAR AS GETTING YOU THE NECESSARY SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED AS FAR AS BARRACKS, LIVING CONDITIONS, ALL THESE THINGS.
AND, UM, I FEEL THAT THE COUNCIL, WELL, I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS WORKING TO, UH, GET THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR HANDS, THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB EACH AND EVERY DAY.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BLESSED IN THIS COUNTY TO HAVE SUCH A, UH, VOLUNTEER, UH, FIREFIGHTERS.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY.
IT'S, UH, IT'S JUST AN OUTSTANDING AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY ALL THE TIME, WHAT YOU GUYS DO, WHAT YOU VOLUNTEER TO DO, UH, PASSIONATELY, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN WILL GIVE YOU A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO GO INTO THAT BURNING BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, COUNCILMAN.
ANYONE ELSE? UM, I GENTLEMEN, I, I AGREE WITH HIM A THOUSAND PERCENT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND, AND THE LADIES, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR COUNTY AS A WHOLE, OUR NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS, NO MATTER WHEN IT IS, YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS THERE AND WE APPRECIATE IT MORE THAN YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, MS. DIXON, ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE ONE.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, RUSTY IER, 26 10 CHESTERTON HILL ROAD IN FOREST HILL.
YOU'VE MADE MY JOB A LOT EASIER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.
UM, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT, AS YOU KNOW, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION AND WE WANNA THANK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATION FOR INTRODUCING THIS BILL.
AND WE WANT TO ASK THE COUNCIL SUPPORT AS, UH, COUNCILMAN WOOD SAID IT'S A GREAT RECRUITMENT RETENTION, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT MORE ATTAINABLE.
PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE THAT, AND I THINK WE WILL BE ABLE TO RETAIN A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS, AND I THINK IT WILL BRING SOME MEMBERS IN.
WE'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS AVAILABLE.
AS AGAIN, COUNCILMAN WOOD SAID HE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS AVAILABLE, SO WE DO NEED TO GET BETTER AT THAT, BUT I THINK BY MAKE MAKING THIS CHANGE, WE'LL REALLY ENHANCE IT AND MAKE IT A MUCH BETTER TOOL FOR US.
SO WE JUST ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WE THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? MS. JASON, THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.
WITH NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP, BILL 22 DASH 20.
THIS WILL END THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, AND WE'LL TAKE THIS UP AT A ANOTHER TIME.
TAX CREDIT FOR PROPERTIES NEAR REFUSE DISPOSAL SYSTEM, MR. WOODARD.
OKAY, UM, MR. SALES COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, BRINGING FORTH THIS BILL AS WE DO, UH, EACH AND EVERY TIME.
UH, THIS YEAR, ALTHOUGH A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS YEAR, DUE TO THE, UM, UH, FALL SCHEDULE, UM, THIS BILL REQUIRE, UM, THIS BILL PROVIDES FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, LOCAL PROPERTY TAX, COUNTY PROPERTY TAX, UH, CREDIT, UM, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, UH, WITHIN 1000 FEET OF, OF THE, UM, THE LANDFILL, UM, UP IN, UP IN SCARBOROUGH.
UM, KIND OF THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THE, THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE BENEFITS FROM, UM, THE LANDFILL, BUT THE COST OF, OF, UM, OF DEALING WITH THE LANDFILL IS, IS PROBABLY DISPROPORTIONATELY BORN BY, UM, THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
SO THIS IS A WAY OF, OF THE COUNTY.
UM, WHILE IT'S KIND OF COMPENSATING THEM IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD, UM, THIS BILL HAS, UH, 36, UM, ELIGIBLE PROPERTIES.
IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET AND IT HAS TO BE YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE USE IT AS A RENTAL PROPERTY OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THINGS LIKE THAT, IT WOULD NOT BE BE ELIGIBLE.
UM, 36 FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR.
THAT'S 33 IN THE, UM, UH, LEGISLATION ITSELF.
AND THREE, IN SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, AMENDMENTS.
UM, THAT'S ONE MORE THAN WE HAVE THIS CURRENT YEAR.
IT KIND OF BOUNCES AROUND AGAIN IN THAT 36, 35 RANGE, UH, FROM YEAR TO YEAR, AGAIN, BASED UPON HOW, WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING WITH THEIR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY AND THE LIKE, UH, FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS, UM, IS APPROXIMATELY AROUND $70,000.
UH, OF COURSE WE WON'T KNOW THE EXACT UNTIL THE, UH, STATE DEPARTMENT OF ASSESSMENTS AND TAXATIONS COMES OUT WITH WHAT THE, UM, THE ASSESSMENTS WILL ACTUALLY BE FOR, UM, JULY ONE, AND THIS IS FOR NEXT TAX YEAR.
THE TAX YEAR THAT, THAT BEGINS IN JULY OF, OF 20, THE YEARS ARE STARTING TO BLEND TOGETHER.
UM, MRES, YOU TYPICALLY SPEAK TO THIS.
I JUST WANNA ASK FOR MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT ON THIS.
AS YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVING NEAR A LANDFILL ISN'T THE GREATEST PRICE PLACE PROBABLY TO LIVE.
SO THEY DO TOLERATE A LOT AND THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS WITH WATER CONTAMINATION AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE VERY UNPREDICTABLE.
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YOU KNOW, THE DUST, THE NOISE, THE, THE SEA GOS, THE BUZZER, YOU KNOW, THEY DEAL WITH A LOT AND THEY DEAL WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THE WEEKENDS.IT'S USUALLY LINED UP ON SCARBOROUGH ROAD.
SO, UM, JUST AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
THIS IS A BILL THAT I MODIFIED, UH, PROBABLY A LITTLE OVER A DECADE AGO WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE LANDFILL EXPANSION, INCREASED IT TO A THOUSAND FEET AND A FEW OTHER, UH, TWEAKS WE MADE TO IT.
BUT, UM, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY COMMUNITY NEEDS A LANDFILL AND THIS HAPPENS TO BE THAT, UM, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF IT.
SO FOR ALL, ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO GO UP THERE, UH, ANY TIME MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND DROP YOUR MATERIAL OFF AND THAT, AND THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE LITTER.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY NEAT WITH, UH, TAKING THEIR STUFF TO THE LANDFILL AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THEY WIND UP WITH THINGS IN THEIR YARDS AND, YOU KNOW, IT BLOWS OUT OF THE VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO AGAIN, JUST APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE DO HAVE AN OFFSITE, UM, PLACE FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR TRASH GOES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S, UH, STILL A VERY BUSY PLACE UP AT THE LANDFILL AS I'VE SPENT
SO I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS BUSY.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK TO MR. WAGNER? THIS, THIS IS NOTHING NEW, IT'S JUST AN ANNUAL THING THAT WE DO, AND THEN WE, WE DO IT, UH, GRACIOUSLY.
I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE COUNT.
UM, ANY AND THE BILL YOU'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US, YOU TALK ABOUT 32 APPLICANTS TO START WITH, AND THEN THERE'S THREE ADDITIONAL FOUR, WELL, IS THERE FOUR, FOUR EXTRA PROPERTIES? WELL, THERE IS, THERE IS THREE.
THE AMENDMENT LATER ON WILL, UM, WILL CORRECT THAT 32 TO 36, 2 36, AND THERE'LL BE THREE ADDITIONAL NAMES ADDED WHERE, AND THE LEGISLATION ITSELF, THERE'S 33 ADDRESSES.
SO THERE WAS A OKAY THAT, THAT CLEARS IT UP.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THIS, WE, WE, UM, WE'VE GOTTEN VERY MUCH BETTER OVER THE YEARS IN, IN, UM, UH, GETTING, UH, EMAIL COMMUNICATION AND LIKE WITH, WITH THE, THE PROPERTY RESIDENTS.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME FLUCTUATIONS THAT COME, UM, UH, FROM INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES MAYBE THEY, THEY RENTED FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
WE ALWAYS, UM, WE ALWAYS HAVE A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT WE, UM, WHEN WE RUN OUT OF, OF, UH, SOLUTIONS ON OUR OWN, WE, WE, WE, WE PUNTED OVER TO COUNCILMAN RHODES AND, UM, HE GOES OUT AND COLLECTS THE NAMES HIMSELF.
AND I KNOW WE HAD A COUPLE OF THEM THIS YEAR AND, UH, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAD EVERYBODY IN PLACE.
BUT WE ARE, WE ARE COMFORTABLE NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE, UH, RESIDENTS.
SO NOBODY WILL BE, WILL BE, UH, WITHOUT THIS.
DID, DID WE ADD MORE THAN WHAT WAS LAST YEAR'S NUMBER? YEAH, LAST YEAR WAS 35.
SO AGAIN, SOMETIMES LIKE A PERSON WILL, WILL HAVE A PROPERTY THAT THEY RENTED LAST YEAR AND THEN MAYBE THEY DECIDED NOT TO RENT IT THIS YEAR OR, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO IT BOUNCES AROUND THAT NUMBER.
UM, BUT YES, ONE MORE NEXT YEAR THAN, THAN THIS YEAR.
MR SH I WILL SAY I WISH THERE WAS AN EASIER AWAY.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING THIS, BUT I DO KIND OF IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING DOWN TO THE FINAL DAYS HERE.
I JUST WONDER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR I ENDED UP, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS I FOUND OUT THAT SHE WAS IN A REHAB FACILITY.
SO YOU HAD, I'D GO DOWN TO BELL CAMP THIS TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, WE'RE WE'RE DOING A LOT BETTER.
I'M NOT RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO COLLECT LIKE A DOZEN OF THESE ANYMORE.
SO, BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF, A LITTLE BIT OF A CHASE.
I I DO ANNUALLY AND I DON'T MIND IT.
AND I GUESS IF EVEN I WOULD BE SITTING UP HERE IN THE FUTURE, IF, IF YOU NEED ME, I GUESS I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD VOLUNTEER MYSELF TO, TO DO THAT IF I, I NEED TO.
BUT, UM, BECAUSE I, I CARE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE.
UM, I KNOW WHAT THEY TOLERATE AND UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART, UH, VERY, VERY LIMITED INCOME.
SOME ARE ELDERLY, LIKE THE ONE I VISITED.
I MEAN, SHE WAS PROB SHE MAY HAVE BEEN IN HER NINETIES EASY.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A WAY TO TWEAK THE LEGISLATION MIGHT JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT LESS PROBLEMATIC.
I KNOW THAT THINGS CHANGE, LIKE YOU SAID, ROBBIE, WITH WITH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY OPINION IS, IS LIKE MAYBE, UH, TO OFFER A MODIFICATION, IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S OWNER OCCUPIED OR NOT.
I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WE GOTTA GO DO THIS CUZ WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ALL STILL OWNER OCCUPIED.
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SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IF IT'S RENTAL OCCUPIED, RIGHT? SO IF WE MAKE THAT AS A CORRECTION, THEN, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS, UH, ANYMORE AND THEY JUST GET THE CREDIT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS THE PROPERTIES AROUND A THOUSAND FEET.YOU CAN USE THE GIS SYSTEM, THE COUNTY HAS AND YOU KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE AND JUST, UH, CHANGE IT IN A WAY THAT IT, UM, THAT THE, THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT AREA GET THE CREDIT.
AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A SOLUTION, BUT THERE MIGHT BE A REASON WHY WE DON'T DO THAT TOO.
THINK HOW THE LEGISLATION WOULD TAKE ENABLING LEGISLATION WAS WRITTEN THAT, THAT IT SAID THAT IT KIND OF MORE OR LESS KIND OF REQUIRED THE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO, YOU KNOW, DETERMINE, DETERMINE THE PROPERTIES AND KIND OF LIST THEM, LIST THEM OUT TO HAVE THAT APPLICATION.
I MEAN, WE, WE KNOW WHICH ONES ARE, UM, HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED BECAUSE IT'S IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ASSESSMENT TAXATIONS.
THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF KNOW WHO TO TARGET AND WHEN, WHEN WE GO IN THERE AND SEE, HEY, THIS IS HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED, LET'S, LET'S WORK ON, UM, MAKING SURE WE GET THOSE, UM, THOSE ONES COVERED.
SO AGAIN, I THINK YOU WOULD THEN BE LOOKING AT A, A CHANGE IN THE, UM, LEGISLATION.
IT IS A FAIRLY MA MANUAL MANUAL PROCESS.
AND OF COURSE THIS IS ONLY FOR SOME 36 PEOPLE WITH OTHER TAX CREDITS AND THE LIKE, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER AND, AND CORRECT IT DOES, IT CREATES, UM, UM, TRUE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES.
AND IT USED TO BE, I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME DATE THAT WAS ATTRIBUTED TO IT, LIKE BEFORE A CERTAIN DATE, BUT WE GOT RID OF THAT.
WE KIND OF CLEANED IT UP, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO TRY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MY COGS IN THE FUTURE.
UM, MS. DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO.
UH, THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 22 DASH 21.
AND THIS WILL BE, UH, TAKEN UP AT A FUTURE MEETING, UH, BRINGS US TO RESOLUTION 0 21 DASH 22 DETENTION CENTER.
UM, WARDEN, GOOD EVENING, SIR.
THE BEST FOR LAST MR. PRESIDENT.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, ERIC ROW, BE DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
TO MY LEFT IS, UH, THE WARDEN GENTLEMAN THAT PROBABLY NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION, BUT WARDEN DAN GALK FROM OUR DETENTION CENTER.
UH, WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, BOARDING FEE.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WEEKEND OR PROGRAM, UH, HERE AT THE HARTFORD COUNTY DETENTION CENTER.
IT'S OF COURSE DESIGNED SO THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SENTENCED HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY THAT ARE EMPLOYED CAN CONTINUE ALONG WITH THEIR GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT WHILE THEY'RE ACTUALLY SERVING THEIR SENTENCE, UH, TO THE CITIZENS OF HARVARD COUNTY.
UH, WHAT THIS PROGRAM, UH, WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES AND WHAT THIS RESOLUTION WILL DO IS ACTUALLY PUT A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT WILL GIVE THE GENTLEMAN TO MY LEFT THE WARDEN THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THOSE FEES, UH, IF THERE IS A HARDSHIP THAT COMES INTO PLAY.
SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS, UH, AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, UH, WHEN AN INMATE IS SENTENCED TO THE HAR COUNTY DETENTION CENTER, THEY'LL GO BEFORE A JUDGE.
THE JUDGE WILL THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THEIR FEES.
NORMALLY THIS HAPPENS WHEN THEIR ATTORNEY ASKS FOR IT.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING A PROCESS WHERE SOMETIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BASED ON INCOME, IT'S NOT BASED ON NEEDS, IT'S JUST BASED ON WHETHER THE ATTORNEY ASKS FOR IT OR NOT.
UH, WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS SEEKING TO DO IS TO PUT THAT PROCESS IN PLACE SO THAT OUR, UH, WARDEN OF THE DETENTION CENTER WILL BE ABLE TO WAIVE THOSE FEES.
CURRENTLY THOSE FEES ARE TWO HOURS, UH, TWO HOURS OF THEIR HOURLY, OF THEIR HOURLY RATE MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF CREDITS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SERVING.
SO THE NUMBER OF WEEKEND DAYS THAT THEY'RE SERVING HERE IN OUR FACILITY.
SO I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO THE WARDEN AND HE'LL GIVE YOU SOME, UH, SOME STATISTICS ON THE PROGRAM.
SO THIS FIRST CAME TO LIGHT, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN THE COUNTY CAME TO DETENTION CENTER, WAS QUESTIONING THE REDUCING REVENUES.
UM, AND IT WAS ALL REVOLVING AROUND COVID.
THE WEEKEND PROGRAM WAS NON-EXISTENT.
UM, THE INMATE POPULATION WENT DOWN CONSIDERABLY AND WE EXPLAINED THAT TO THEM.
IT MADE US START LOOKING AT THE WEEKEND PROGRAM, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY LAW DEPARTMENT AND, UH, TRYING TO ESTABLISH THE GROUNDS IN THE LAW AS PERTAINS TO THE WEEKEND PROGRAM.
AND IN THE LAW IT SAYS THAT THERE HAS TO BE THE GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS THE COUNTY COUNCIL, HAS TO SET A PROCEDURE IN PLACE LIKE MR. ROBY SAID TO THE DIFFERENT JUDGES IN THE DISTRICT COURT, CIRCUIT COURT.
THERE WAS NO CONSISTENCY ON THE WAVING OF THE BOARD BILLS.
UM, SO WE ARE JUST ASKING TO DO WHAT THE LAW IS SAYING IS PUT CONSISTENCY IN THE WAVING OF THE BOARD BILL AND ALLOWING THE DETENTION CENTER TO BE THE, UM, CENTRAL REPOSITORY.
THE CENTRAL DECISION MAKING ON THE WEEKEND PROGRAM.
THE WEEKEND PROGRAM IS VERY IMPORTANT
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TO THE CITIZENS OF HARTFORD COUNTY.UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME MODEL INMATES THAT JUST GOT INTO A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE AND THEY WERE SENTENCED TO THE DETENTION CENTER.
THEY'RE WORKING INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE JOBS DURING THE WEEK AND EVEN ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, YOU, WE CALL IT THE WEEKEND PROGRAM, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A WEEKEND OR PROGRAM CUZ THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WORK FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND THE JUDGES THEM THEN SENTENCE THEM TO LIKE A MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY TYPE SENTENCE.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALLED A WEEKEND OR PROGRAM, IT'S TRULY NOT.
IT'S, IT'S THE JUDGES HAVE THE ABILITY TO SENTENCE SOMEBODY UP TO 48 HOURS CONSECUTIVE, UM, CONFINEMENT.
UM, WE JUST CALL IT THE WEEKENDER PROGRAM.
IT'S A PROGRAM THAT IS A, UH, PROGRAM OFFERED BY SHERIFF GAYLOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO RUNS THE DETENTION CENTER.
UM, SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICY, THE LAW, ALL ALIGN TO THIS.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION, IT COSTS ABOUT $233 PER DAY TO HOUSING INMATE AT THE HARTFORD COUNTY DETENTION CENTER.
I CURRENTLY HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 40 WEEKENDERS COMING IN IS THEIR SENTENCE.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THEM COME IN ON A FRIDAY NIGHT BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 5:00 PM AND 8:00 PM UM, 40 INMATES COMING IN AT ONE TIME THROUGH THE INTER AGENCY PROCESSING CENTER IS A HUGE STRAIN ON THE STAFF IN THE DETENTION CENTER BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO PROCESS THEM INTO THE FACILITY, BOTH THROUGH BOOKING AND ALSO MEDICALLY.
UM, WHICH CAUSES ME TO SOMETIMES HAVE UP TO EIGHT DEPUTIES ON OVERTIME WORKING JUST TO GET THESE INMATES IN, RECEIVE THEM, SEARCH 'EM, GIVING THEM INTO THEIR INMATE UNIFORM AND THEN GETTING 'EM OVER TO MEDICAL FOR MEDICAL SCREENING BEFORE THEY'RE HOUSED IN THEIR HOUSING AREA.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THE STRAIN IS PUT ON THE DETENTION CENTER AND THE ADDED COST, UM, FOR HOUSING THESE PARTICULAR INJURIES.
BUT I DO SEE THE BENEFIT BECAUSE WE ARE KEEPING HARPER COUNTY CITIZENS EMPLOYEES, IT ALLOWS THAT TO HA HAPPEN.
UM, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING TO FORMALIZE IT AND GIVE A WAY TO IF NEED BE WAIVED, THESE BOARD BILLS.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE MR. RUBY? NO, JUST, UH, MR. PRESIDENT AS, AS THE BOARD MENTIONED, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IF SOMEONE'S SENTENCED FOR 20 DAYS AND THEIR SENTENCED IS, UH, IS THROUGH THAT NON-CONSECUTIVE PERIOD OF 48 HOURS, THE WEEKEND OR PROGRAM, UH, THEY'RE COMING IN AND OUT OF OUR FACILITY 10 DIFFERENT TIMES.
WHEREAS THAT INMATE THAT'S JUST SENTENCED, THAT DOES THEIR 20 DAY STRAIGHT SENTENCE, THEY'RE COMING IN ONCE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S WHERE THE ADDED COST COMES INTO PLAY, AND THAT'S WHY THE CORRECTIONAL SERVICES ARTICLE, UH, IN, IN MARYLAND LAW ACTUALLY GIVES THE ABILITY TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO CHARGE THAT FEE FOR, UH, FOR BOARDING, FOR LODGING AND FOR CLOTHING.
NOW, I, UM, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE JUDGE'S UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP EVERYONE EMPLOYED AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND, AND, UM, DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO, UH, WORK WITH THEM.
UM, SO, UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. WOODS? THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF THE HARDSHIP THAT YOU'RE, YOU WOULD, SOMEONE WOULD REQUEST, SO OF THE HARDSHIP AND HOW WOULD YOU SET THAT STANDARD IN? SO IF, IF WE HAD A, A PARENT THAT IS UNEMPLOYED, BUT THE ONLY TIME THEY CAN GET A FAMILY MEMBER TO WASH YOUR CHILL, TO WASH YOUR CHILDREN WHILE THEY'RE INCARCERATED AND THEY'RE UNEMPLOYED, THEY'RE FULL TIME AT HOME PARENT, THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION, UM, TO WAIVE THE BOARD BILL.
SO WHAT WAS, WHAT'S THE, IS IT THE DAILY RATE OF TWO 20 SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CHARGE THEM? NO, NO, NO, NO.
SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE PAYING, SO IF THEIR HOURLY RATE, LET'S SAY THEIR HOURLY RATE IS $40 AN HOUR, SO THEY'RE NOT IN THEIR, THEIR 40 HOUR WEEK IN THEIR REAL WORLD JOB.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE CHARGED TO, THEY'RE GONNA BE CHARGED FOR TWO HOURS PER DAY THAT THEY'RE IN THE FACILITY.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A STANDARD THAT'S SET BY THE CORRECTIONAL SERVICES COMMISSION THAT SAYS IT CAN'T EXCEED THE AMOUNT, WHICH WOULD NORMALLY BE CHARGED FOR LODGING, MEALS, AND CLOTHING.
SAME FOR MALES AND FEMALES? YES.
SO, SO THE, THE MINIMUM THAT WE WOULD CHARGE SOMEBODY IS 1250, WHICH IS MINIMUM WAGE.
THE MAXIMUM IN THE EXAMPLE OF THE $40, THE MAX WE WOULD CHARGE SOMEBODY PER HOUR IS 27 96.
THE MAX, IF YOU HAVE A $40 AN HOUR
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JOB, THE MAX YOU CHARGE IS 27, 27 96.DO THEY
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INMATES ON THEIR LAST WEEKEND, CUZ THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK.
THEY DON'T PAY THAT BOARD BILL.
SO IN THE POLICY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY THEIR LAST WEEK BOARD BILL IN ADVANCE OF THEIR LAST WEEK.
SO WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF INMATES THAT DON'T PAY THEIR, AND WE JUST PUT THEIR, UH, THEIR AMOUNT DUE IN THE COST RECOVERY BECAUSE I HATE TO SAY THIS, WE SEE A LOT OF THESE TO THEM.
ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL P MR. JOHNSON? THANK COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
UM, SO DO, DO INMATES PAY RIGHT NOW IN THE PROGRAM? YES.
AND, UM, SO HOW LONG HAVE THEY, HAVE THEY BEEN PAYING, UM, IN THIS PROGRAM? WHEN, WHEN DID THAT START? DO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? I, I DON'T KNOW, IDEA.
UM, IT WOULD GO BACK TO WHEN, UM, UH, 1990S, 11 WHEN THE LEGISLATION WAS ENTERED? YEAH.
AND, UM, SO YOU SAID IT WAS $233 FOR AN INMATE TO BE HOUSED AND FOR MEDICAL FOOD, CLOTHING, UM, ELECTRIC? YES.
AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT 40 THAT ARE ON THE WORK RELEASE PROGRAM.
IT RANGES ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 40.
UM, THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 35 40.
AND IN, IN, UH, SECTION 11 8 0 1, IT SAYS, UH, THE WORD REASONABLE.
SO WHAT, WHAT DO WE DETERMINE AS A GOVERNING BODY AS BEING REASONABLE? IS THE 1250 OR IS THE 27 96, WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED REASONABLE? UNDER, YOU KNOW, WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE, OR, OR IF ANYONE ELSE IS, IS HAS THIS IN, IN PLACE? DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? SO THE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL DOESN'T SET THE AMOUNT MM-HMM.
I, I BELIEVE THERE'S STATE, UH, LAW THAT TALKS MORE ABOUT THE MAX WEEKEND, AND THAT'S THE 27 96 THAT WE CAN CHARGE IN MINIMUM, UH, MINIMUM WAGE IS SET BY, YOU KNOW, THE STATE, BY THE STATE.
SO, SO, UH, WARDEN, WHEN, UH, WHEN YOU KNOW THESE INMATES COME IN, DO THEY GET A, A BOOKLET OR PAMPHLET THAT THAT TELLS THEM WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE? SO WHAT THEY, AND, AND THE NEW PROPOSED POLICY, THEY WOULD COME TO THE DETENTION CENTER AT LEAST TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE.
THEY WOULD MEET WITH OUR ADMIN STAFF, THEY WOULD GO OVER THE RULES OF THE PROGRAM.
THEY WOULD GO OVER THE AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING IN THEIR FIRST AM INCARCERATION.
THEY WOULD RECEIVE A MEDICAL PACKET BECAUSE WE NEED MEDICAL INFORMATION AND THEY GO OVER THE RULES SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE RULES.
THE MEDICAL PACKET WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED THREE DAYS BEFORE THEIR INCARCERATION FOR MEDICAL TO BRIDGE OVER THEIR MEDICINES THAT WE NEED TO ADMINISTER TO THEM WHILE THEY'RE IN THE DETENTION CENTER.
SO IT'S ALL PRE THEIR FIRST NIGHT COMING IN TO GET BOOKED IN AND RECEIVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
SO, SO THEY, THEY, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
AND, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE DOING THIS, UH, TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR THE WARDEN TO, TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE WAIVER? MOST OF THEM DON'T ALLOW WAIVERS.
SO, SO, UM, SO HOW MANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE, ARE DOING THIS? SO, OR, OR HAVE THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE? WHEN I DID A SURVEY, EIGHT OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THOSE JURISDICTIONS HAVE THIS PROGRAM.
MOST ONLY HAVE ONE TO FIVE INMATES ON THE PROGRAM.
THE OTHER JURISDICTION THAT HAS A LARGE POPULATIONS AND HONOR COUNTY, AND THEY AVERAGE 30 TO 35 INMATES ON THEIR PROGRAM.
SO WE EVEN HAVE MORE ON OUR PROGRAM.
YOUR BALTIMORE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE A WORK RELEASE PROGRAM? UM, CISO COUNTY DOES NOT.
THERE'S A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE THE PROGRAM.
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UM, TO PUT A BUTTON ON THIS, UM, IF AN INMATE FAILS TO, UH, PAY, THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT INMATE DO? ARE THERE OTHER FINES IN LEVIES, YOU KNOW, UM, GIVEN TO THAT INMATE? OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO IF A FIT INMATE COMES IN AND FAILS TO PAY THE PARTICULAR WEEKEND, WE THEN ADVISE THEM THAT THEY NEED TO REPAY DOUBLE THE NEXT TIME.IF THEY COME IN A SECOND WEEK IN A ROW AND DON'T PAY, THEN WE WILL CONVERT THEM TO STRAIGHT TIME.
JUST LIKE IF WE HAVE AN INMATE THAT BREAKS THE RULES OF THE PROGRAM, WE VIOLATE THEM, WE CONVERT THEM TO STRAIGHT TIME, UM, AND THEN JUST STAY WITH US UNTIL THEY'RE UNDER THEIR INCARCERATION.
IF AN INMATE DOESN'T PAY, WHO COVERS THAT COST? ORFORD COUNTY.
SO, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
SO, MR. JOHNSON, UH, SO THAT MONEY DOESN'T GO TO LIKE A COLLECTION AGENCY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO.
UH, WARREN, I'VE KNOWN FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, IN MY BUSINESS THAT THEY EMPLOY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE WORK RELEASE PROGRAM.
I, I, AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A LIFESAVER FOR A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS, DO THEIR, THEIR TIME THAT THEY'RE ALLOTTED FOR, AND THEN TO CONTINUE ON WITH THEIR, THEIR LIFE.
THEY, IT'S NOT SHATTERED, AND MOST OF THEM DON'T GO BACK AND, AND DO THAT.
SO IT IS, IT IS A, IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
UM, I, I'VE HAD PEOPLE TELL ME THAT, THAT, LOOK, I CAN'T GET TO SEE YOU UNTIL THIS TIME.
I'M, YOU KNOW, WORK RELEASE PROGRAM.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE HIRE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE FOR THE WORK FOR RELEASE PROGRAM TOO, THAT THEY'RE MOSTLY GOOD IN PEOPLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN.
SO I I, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE STILL DOING THE PROGRAM.
I, I THINK IT'S A, AND AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE BIGGER ONES THAT HAVE AT BALTIMORE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE IT.
AND I THINK SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO GO AWAY PROBABLY APPRECIATES THAT AS WELL.
WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE WEEKENDER.
WE HAVE NOT RESTARTED YET, UM, BECAUSE OF COVID.
THE WORK RELEASE IS STILL NOT OPERATIONAL BECAUSE OF COVID.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. WOODS? THANK YOU.
MR. PRESENT WITH, YOU BROUGHT UP THE MEDICATIONS THAT ARE INMATES ALLOWED TO BRING THEIR OWN MEDICATIONS OR DOES THE COUNTY SUPPLY COMPLETELY? COUNTY HAS TO SUPPLY.
SO IF IT'S SOMETHING UNREAL EXPENSIVE, WE'RE WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT TOO? YES.
MR. JOHNSON, ONE MORE QUESTION.
SO, UH, UH, IT'S TWO HOURS OF THE, UH, INMATES HOURLY PAY MULTIPLIED, UH, CORRECT? YES.
AND, UM, SO, SO THAT, THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE, RIGHT? THAT THAT SECTION IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING THAT ALREADY? YES.
ANYONE ELSE? MS. DIXON? ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
JILLIAN MILLER, 4 0 8 CRISFIELD DRIVE, ABINGTON, MARYLAND.
UM, I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING THAT I THINK THAT OUR CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH ON THEIR PLATE WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL, UM, JOB OF PROCESSING SO MANY INMATES IN AND OUT.
UM, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, IT ACTUALLY SOUNDS LIKE THE PROGRAM IS JUST NOT BENEFICIAL AT ALL.
AND SO I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF CONCERNS WITH IT.
I'M REALLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION YOU GUYS GAVE CUZ IT HELPED ME WITH SOME CLARIFICATION ON THINGS THAT I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT.
UM, I DO THINK THAT BEFORE MAKING A DECISION, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PRESENT DATA TO SHOW HOW MUCH OF THESE STAY TO PAY FEES ARE ACTUALLY COLLECTED IN OTHER SYSTEMS AND IN THIS CURRENT SYSTEM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WITH MANY OF THE SYSTEMS THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
AND SO THE FEES KIND OF JUST LINGER.
AND YES, WE ARE GOING TO, AS, UH, MR. JEN JORDANO ASKED, WE ARE GOING TO END UP PAYING FOR IT.
THE COUNTY IS GONNA PAY FOR IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE COUNTY'S ALREADY PAYING FOR THE INDIVIDUALS TO BE INCARCERATED AND IN THE JAIL SYSTEM.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS I THINK THAT OUR PRISON SYSTEM SHOULD NOT, SHOULD BE ABOUT REFORM AND NOT FINANCIAL GAIN.
OUR SYSTEM ONLY ATTEMPTS TO REFORM AT THE JAIL LEVEL INSTEAD OF AT THE POVERTY LEVEL.
AND THIS MAKES IT RIGHT FOR DISCRIMINATION, NOT NECESSARILY COLOR DISCRIMINATION, FINANCIAL DISCRIMINATION.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS AROUND THIS.
UM, LEAVING THE DECISION JUST ON THE WARDEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD ACT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME OVERSIGHT THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE BILL.
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SO THAT'S, UH, A CONCERN.PEOPLE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS ALREADY STRUGGLE TO FIND EMPLOYMENT AND YES, THEY DID THE CRIME, BUT IF THEY DID THEIR TIME, WHY DOES THE RECORD CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THEM? WE HAVE SO MANY, UM, LOCATIONS I KNOW IN HARTFORD COUNTY THAT ARE IN NEED OF VOLUNTEERS AND VOLUNTEER SERVICES.
AND AS I SAID, IT SEEMS LIKE THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS JUST NOT BENEFICIAL COST WISE TO OUR COUNTY.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE WARD, AND I HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE PEOPLE IN OTHER AREAS.
AND SO THOSE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, MY FEEDBACK ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO GIVE TO YOU BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE STRUGGLE IN OUR COUNTY WITH PEOPLE GETTING GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A STRENUOUS TIME FOR ANYONE I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE JAIL SYSTEM AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO OBTAIN THE MEDICATION IN THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE BEEN THERE.
SO THESE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
ANYONE ELSE FROM MS. DIXON? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.
UH, WELL WITH NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP, THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE HEARING FOR 0 21 22.
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
WE'LL, UH, TAKE THIS UP AT A FUTURE MEETING AND WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND WE'LL START BACK AT SEVEN 30.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
GOOD EVENING CHAIR CALLS TO ORDER LEGISLATIVE SESSION DAY 22 DASH 24.I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE JOIN US IN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE, FOLLOWED BY OPENING PRAYER BY COUNCILMAN JAMES.
I PLEDGE ALLEG TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
OR WE PRAY FOR YOUR HAND AND PROTECTION AND THE HEALING OVER ALL THE RESIDENTS IN FLORIDA, THE CAROLINAS, AND THE CARIBBEAN.
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES, FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING, HAVE NO HOME, WE ASK THAT YOUR POWERFUL PROTECTION WILL BE WITH THEM THROUGH THE STORM.
MAY YOU PROTECT THEM, GUIDE THEM TO SAFETY WITH YOUR WISDOM.
WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PROTECT AND HEAL THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN, FIRST RESPONDERS, POLICE, EMS, AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE ASSISTED THOSE AFFECTED.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS.
[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]
CONSIDERATION PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS.DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD MAY HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT MR. SHS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD OF NEW APPOINTMENT, PATRICIA WEAVER AND PAMELA SMITH AND THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ALICIA HAMILTON.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND CHECK.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? UH, IF I MAY, UM, I HAVE THE GREAT HONOR TO SERVE AS THE LIAISON TO THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND, UH, MS. HARRIS IN MY STAY.
UH, WE'VE BOTH HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THESE FOLKS FROM TIME TO TIME.
UH, I THINK THERE'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE BOARD AND, UM, CONTINUATION OF, OF OTHERS.
SO, UM, I, UH, GLADLY WILL APPROVE THOSE.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT.
HERE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE AND ZERO IN A NEGATIVE.
THE APPOINTMENTS ARE HEREBY APPROVED.
SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS, WE HAVE NONE.
[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, APPROVAL OF MINUTES LEGISLATIVE DAY.ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? THERE BEING NO CORRECTIONS? THE MINUTES STAND APPROVED AGENDA ITEM
[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS]
NUMBER EIGHT, INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS.HISTORIC LANDMARK, 1123 BALDWIN MILL ROAD, KURTS MANSION MAY HAVE A MOTION.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT MR. SHS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 23 DASH 22, HISTORIC LANDMARK, 1123 BALDWIN MILL ROAD, THE KURTS MANSION, SECOND, SECOND.
AND MR. BUER, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 23 22.
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MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? HI, MR. JOHNSON.SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN A NEGATIVE RESOLUTION 0 23 DASH 22 IS HEREBY APPROVED RESOLUTION 0 24 DASH 22, HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN 2022 IS OUR MOTION, MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 0 0 24 DASH 22.
SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 24 DASH 22.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS MR. PRESENT? MR. WOODS? ONCE AGAIN, NO, I THINK THE, UH, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT STAFF, WERE PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
LET'S TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND, UH, GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH FEMA AND ALL THE, THE MUNICIPALITIES INVOLVED TO MAKE IT A OUTSTANDING DOCUMENT.
AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB ON THIS ONE.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? HI, MR. JOHNSON.
THERE'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE RESOLUTION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, INTRODUCTION OF BILLS.
[10. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]
ITEM NUMBER 10, INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS.UH, MR. WAGNER, PLEASE READ AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH FOUR INTO THE RECORD FOR INTRODUCTION AMENDMENTS TO BILL NUMBER 22 DASH 0 21, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT BEN CINDY AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE ON PAGE ONE IN LINES EIGHT AND 10, STRIKE 32 AND SUBSTITUTE IN LIE THERE OF 36 AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ON PAGE ONE AFTER LINE 17, INSERT THE FOLLOWING, ZERO FIVE DASH 0 2 2 7 38 3 2 3 4 SCARBOROUGH ROAD AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE ON PAGE ONE AFTER LINE 23, INSERT THE FOLLOWING, 0 5 0 0 9 9 0 1 3 3 26.
SCARBOROUGH ROAD AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR ON PAGE TWO AFTER LINE 17, INSERT THE FOLLOWING, ZERO FIVE DASH 0 3 43 5 3 3 0 3 DUBLIN ROAD.
UM, DUE TO THE TIME CONSTRAINTS AND NATURE OF THESE AMENDMENTS, UH, THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING AMENDMENTS TO BILL 2221.
TAX CREDIT FOR PROPERTIES NEAR REFUSE DISPOSAL SYSTEM IS THEIR MOTION.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT MR. SHROUDS, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR TO BILL NUMBER 22 DASH 21.
IT'S MOVED IN SECOND TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO BILL 22 DASH 0 21.
UM, ANY COMMENTS MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.
MR. TRUE, MR. WA, MR. BOLA AYE, BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRM ZERO IN A NEGATIVE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH FOUR ARE HEREBY APPROVED.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS.
ENROLLMENT OF BILLS NUMBER 12, WE HAVE NONE.
AND ITEM NUMBER 13, UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
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14 NEW BUSINESS, UH, THE AT ADEQUATE PUBLIC ADVISE REWARD, UH, ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES ADVISORY BOARD MET ON JUNE 22ND, 2022.AND, UH, WE ARE REQUIRED UNDER A LAW TO PRESENT ITS REPORT TO HARFORD COUNTY COUNCIL.
UH, GENTLEMEN, UH, TOMORROW YOU WILL HAVE A COPY OF THIS REPORT IN YOUR FILES, UH, FOR REVIEW.
AND IN THAT REPORT, UH, HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, UH, REALIZED AN ENROLLMENT NUMBER OF 37,843 STUDENTS.
IT'S A DECREASE OF 113 STUDENTS SINCE THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR IN SEPTEMBER, 2021.
UH, THE, THAT NUMBER IS BROKEN DOWN BY SCHOOLS, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, MIDDLE SCHOOLS, HIGH SCHOOL, JOHN ARCHER AND SWAN CREEK.
UM, MR. CORNELL BROWN REPORTED THAT THE BELLAIRE ELEMENTARY HAVE GRACE ELEMENTARY AND HOMESTEAD WAKEFIELD ELEMENTARY HAVE ALL HAVE REACHED THEIR OR EXPECTED TO REACH THE A P O 110% THRESHOLD FOR MORATORIUM.
AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, BELLARD MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS OVER CAPACITY.
HOWEVER, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION IN HARFORD COUNTY APPROVED THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RECOMMENDATIONS
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TO BOUNCE ENROLLMENT AT SECONDARY SCHOOLS.UM, AS FAR AS MR. SANDLER'S REPORT, UM, THE FUNDS COLLECTED, UH, TO DATE HAVE EXCEEDED BUDGET ESTIMATES, UH, BY NEARLY $6 MILLION AND WILL BE APPLIED.
THAT MONEY WILL BE APPLIED TO THE BOARD OF ED DEBT SERVICE.
AND MR. SANLESS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ELABORATE, THIS IS LARGELY JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, BUT WE HAVE, UH, THREE DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCES, UH, WHICH WE USE TO PAY FOR OUR SCHOOL DEBT SERVICE.
IT'S, UH, HALF OF THE TRANSFER TAX, TWO THIRDS OF THE RECORDATION TAX AND ALL OF THE IMPACT FEES.
AND WHILE ALL OF THOSE REVENUES HAVE SEEN A BIG INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE HOT HOUSING MARKET WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, THEY ARE STILL LESS THAN, UM, WHAT OUR BUDGETED DEBT SERVICES.
NOW, THAT'S NOT A BUDGET ISSUE.
WE BUDGET THE FULL AMOUNT OF, OF DEBT SERVICE JUST MEANS THAT, THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, TAX DOLLARS, UH, FROM, FROM OTHER REVENUE SOURCES, GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, UM, THAT KIND OF, UH, MAKE UP THAT MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST FOR, UH, INFORMATIONAL, UH, PURPOSES AS IT RELATES TO OUR DEDICATED REVENUES AND OUR, UM, OUR SCHOOL NET SERVICES.
GENTLEMEN, UM, IN THE REPORT, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, AND I BELIEVE MR. SAND WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
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GEN ITEM 15, BUSINESS FROM THE PRESIDENT.UM, THIS PAST TWO WEEKS HAS BEEN VERY PAINFUL AND TRAGIC, UH, FOR MANY OF OUR FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTY WITH THE LOSS OF EITHER LOVED ONES OR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
UH, JEANIE AND I WISH TO EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE DARTY LAE SMITH BOWMAN, HES AND MENOR CARGO FAMILIES.
UM, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND FIRE AND EMS FAMILY HAS LOST TWO MEMBERS, UH, MR. LAMONE FROM WAFER THREE.
UM, AND, UH, DB SMITH SENIOR FROM ABERDEEN.
UM, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER, MR. RICK, HES LOST HIS MOTHER, MARY AIRS WAYNE DARTY, UH, IN HA GRACE, WHO WAS A FORMER COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR OF HA GRACE, I SERVED ALSO AS A HA GRACE POLICE OFFICER IN THE, IN THE, UH, HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, AND I DO REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST JOINED HA, GRACE AMERICAN LEGION ANALYST CORPS BACK IN THE SEVENTIES, THE EARLY SEVENTIES.
WAYNE WAS THERE, SO, UH, HIS SERVICE TO THE COUNTY GOES WAY BACK.
UH, ALSO, UH, WE LOST EDDIE BOWMAN, UH, WHO LIVED ON AL DINER ROAD, WHO WORKED FOR BARTON FELDER FOR YEARS.
UH, HE OUT OF THE BLUE ONE DAY, GENIE HAD A PROBLEM WITH A TIRE, FLAT TIRE HE ROLLED UP ON AND GOT OUT OF HIS TRUCK, PULLED HER TIRE OFF THE VEHICLE, FIXED IT, PUT IT BACK ON AND DOWN THE ROAD HE WENT.
NEVER SAID ANYTHING, BUT THANK YOU AND BE SAFE.
SO, UM, HE'S GONNA BE MISSED AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, CARRIE MINS OR CARGO, UH, DIED TRAGICALLY IN A CAR ACCIDENT THIS PAST WEEK OR SO.
UM, AND SHE WAS EXTREMELY ACTIVE IN HER COMMUNITY, AND SHE WILL BE MISSED AS THEY ALL WILL BY MANY.
SO WE ASKED YOU TO KEEP ALL THESE FAMILIES AND THEIR FRIENDS IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.
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WITH THAT, MR. JOHNSON, THANK COUNCIL P I YIELD MY TIME TONIGHT.UM, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND I SAW MARY S NOT EVEN A MONTH AGO, I GUESS IT WAS, WE WERE NOT POC AND SAW RICK, SO CONDOLENCES TO RICK.
ALSO FROM THE FALLS AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, A MEMBER JOINED A FEW YEARS BACK NOW, TOM WAEL.
HE, UH, BECAME AN EMT AND ONE OF OUR FIRE POLICE MEMBERS AND OFTEN ON OUR SCENES TAKING PICTURES, PHOTOGRAPH AND RAN OUR BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND, AND, UH, A LOT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
HE PASSED AWAY UN OR UNEXPECTEDLY ON MONDAY.
AND HIS SERVICES WERE TODAY A MEMBER THAT JOINED WHEN I WAS FIRE CHIEF DREW HALLMAN, UH, YOUNGER MEMBER.
HE PASSED AWAY VISITING HIS FAMILY DOWN IN FLORIDA, UH, UNEXPECTEDLY ALSO AND EARLIER THIS WEEK.
AND HE WAS A MEMBER OF FALLS FOR YEARS DROP OF MAGNOLIA AS WELL.
AND, UH, THEN DAN LIVING, DAN.
DAN AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND UNFORTUNATELY I WAS STUCK DOWN SOUTH THO THE HURRICANE AND COULDN'T GET UP HERE, SO I MISSED HIS FUNERAL, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, WE FORMED THE COUNTY RESCUE TEAM TOGETHER, AND THIS WEEK WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO SOME WORK ON WHAT'S NEXT FOR THE COUNTY TOGETHER AND JUST GONNA MISS HIM A WHOLE LOT.
UH, IT WASN'T EVEN, I GUESS A MONTH AGO, YOU AND I, I ARE ON A RESCUE BOAT TOGETHER OUT IN THE RIVER, SO WITH CHEMO A COUPLE TIMES A DAY AND EVERY DAY HE WAS STILL GETTING IT EVERY DAY.
UM, SO ON THIS PAST WEEKEND, IT WAS, UH, GLOOMY WEEKEND.
IT WAS, UH, RAINING OUT, BUT, UH, FOR SOME KIDS OF THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A BOCHE TOURNAMENT FOR THEM AT THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
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THINK WE HAD 10 TEAMS, IT WAS RAINING, BUT THE KIDS HAD A FANTASTIC TIME.UM, REALLY GLAD THAT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, PART OF THE SOCIETY OF AMER ITALIAN AMERICAN BUSINESSMEN PUT THAT ON TO SUPPORT THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS.
THAT'S GONNA BE AN ANNUAL EVENT HELD AT THE EQUESTRIAN CENTER.
AND, UH, THE KIDS REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.
AND MY, UH, TO ALL THE PEOPLE DOWN IN FLORIDA, UH, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, UM, JUST VERY TRAGIC AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER WE CAN FOR THEM.
UM, JUST A FEW THINGS, UH, THE OTHER WEEK, UM, WE ATTENDED THIS CTP TOUR WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HERE, MYSELF, AND I KNOW COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND, AND SENT, AND, UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WERE HERE, AND MAY HAVE BEEN OTHERS AS WELL REPRESENTED.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ADVOCATE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AROUND THE COUNTY.
AND, UM, I THOUGHT IT WENT VERY WELL.
THEY SEEMED VERY RECEPTIVE OF, OF MANY OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED.
UM, SINCE, UH, COUNCILMAN ANDRE JOHNSON DIDN'T MENTION IT, WE BOTH ATTENDED THE UH, HA GRACE HIGH SCHOOL HALL OF FAME CEREMONY, SO I WANNA CONGRATULATE ALL OF THOSE.
AND EDGEWOOD, WHAT DID I SAY? I SAID, HA EDGEWOOD, I'M LOOKING AT EDGEWOOD.
UM, YEAH, THE, THE 11TH ANNUAL EDGEWOOD HIGH SCHOOL HALL OF FAME.
AND I WANNA CONGRATULATE ALL THE INDUCTEES, INCLUDING, UH, DAVID RICHMOND, GEORGE CHER, ROBERT FRESH, CARDELL WILLIAMS, AND KENDRA JACKSON.
THEY'VE JUST, UM, HAVE GIVEN SO MUCH BACK SINCE GRADUATING FROM THAT SCHOOL.
AND, UM, THERE WAS ALSO MANY THAT ATTENDED TO HAVE RECEIVED THIS REWARD AWARD IN THE PAST.
AND, UH, I THANK ALL OF THEM FOR WHAT THEY'VE, UH, DONE TO CONTRIBUTE BACK TO OUR, OUR COUNTY AND COMMUNITY AND NATION.
UM, ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE, UM, MY FRIEND MICHELLE HOPPY TANKERSLEY ON THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY, OVER TWO TUTORING SERVICE IN JARRETTSVILLE.
UM, ALSO TLC, PRESCHOOL AND DAYCARE, THEIR GRAND OPENING ALSO IN JARRETTSVILLE.
AND THEN WE HAD THE DARLINGTON APPLE FESTIVAL OVER THE WEEKEND.
JUST WANNA, UH, SAY A BIG THANKS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED THAT PULLS OFF THAT VERY LARGE EVENT, UM, IN THE SMALL TOWN FOR OUR ENTIRE COUNTY.
I, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CONGRATULATE FRANK GARRETT, WHO RECEIVED THE APPLE OF OUR EYE AWARD.
UM, ALSO I SEE MY FRIEND BOB TIS IN THE AUDIENCE, AND I WANNA, UH, THANK HIM FOR HIS CONTINUED ADVOCACY FOR THE, THE, UM, LIVESTOCK TRAIL AT NORTH HARTFORD.
I KNOW THAT WE RECENTLY SAW, UH, A NICE, UM, PRESS RELEASE ON THAT, AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND I, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR THAT.
I THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR GETTING THAT INTO BUDGET, UM, FOR ALL THE KIDS AT NORTH ARKANSAS CITY AND GET THEIR ANIMALS AROUND TO ALL THE DIFFERENT SHOWS AND TO THE VET AND, AND, UH, ALL THE PLACES THAT THEY NEED TO GO.
AND I KNOW ALL ABOUT THE VET LATELY, SO THAT IS VERY NECESSARY.
ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PASSING OF DANIEL EMON, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, REAL TRAGIC, HE FOUGHT A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HARD BATTLE OF CANCER, BUT IT DIDN'T STOP HIM.
HE WAS OUT THERE DOING WATER RESCUE MISSIONS AND JUST DOING SO MUCH.
HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE WHITEFORD VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY AS WELL, AND HE WAS ALSO A CAREER FIREFIGHTER.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR MOTHER MARY.
UM, SHE'S IN ALL OF HER THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.
AND THEN, UM, WAYNE DARTY, OF COURSE, HE'S GIVEN SO MUCH TO OUR COUNTY AND ESPECIALLY THE CITY OF HA GRACE.
UM, WANT TO CONGRATULATE BOTH, UH, JIM RILEY AND AARON PENMAN ON THEIR RETIREMENTS ON LAST FRIDAY, AND I WISH THEM BOTH VERY WELL IN THEIR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
UM, JUST SUCH A HORRIFIC STORM AND JUST KEEPING ALL THOSE IMPACTED IN MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.
I DID REACH OUT SOME OF MY FRIENDS IN FLORIDA TO SEE HOW THEY FARED.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME FEARED OKAY AND SOME NOT, SO.
SO, BUT THERE'S MANY AND THOUSANDS AND PEOPLE IMPACTED.
I DO WANT TO EXTEND SYMPATHIES TO ALL THOSE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD OF FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ALREADY THIS EVENING, BUT ESPECIALLY TO, UH, UH, THE FAMILY OF DB SMITH AND, UH, THE FIRE SERVICE THERE IN ABERDEEN, THAT HE WAS SUCH A MENTOR AND AN INSTITUTION IN THE HARTFORD COUNTY FIRE SERVICE, AND ESPECIALLY
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AT ABERDEEN AND TRAINED SO MANY AND BROUGHT HIM UP THROUGH THE FIRE SERVICE.AND THEN FOR RICK HEIRS, CERTAINLY WE ARE ALL, UH, HE, HE RICKS IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS, UH, WITH THE PASSING OF HIS MOM.
UH, I ATTENDED THE RIBBON CUTTING AND GRAND OPENING FOR, SAY, DELICIOUS CONFECTIONS BAKERY, WHICH IS ON WEST BEL AIR AVENUE IN ABERDEEN.
AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A START TO, TO REVITALIZING THE, THE, UH, THE BEL AIR AVENUE OF, UH, OF ABERDEEN.
SO IF ANYBODY GETS DOWN THAT WAY AND WANTS A COOKIE, A DONUT, OR SOMETHING SWEET, THAT'S THE, I THAT'S THE IDEAL PLACE TO STOP IN.
UH, IT'S OFF TO A GREAT START AND, UH, WE WISH THEM WELL AS THEY MOVE AHEAD.
I ATTENDED THE ABERDEEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 27TH FOR THEIR, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AWARDS.
THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AWARD WENT TO FAMOUS IN SPAN INSURANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER.
UH, REVITALIZATION AWARD WENT TO THE ABERDEEN VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE, UH, THE NEW FIRES FIREHOUSE THERE AND, AND EVERYTHING THEY PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AWARD WENT TO GOLDEN CORRAL AFTER THEIR, UH, RENOVATION PROJECT.
AND IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE A WHOLE NEW STRUCTURE INSIDE AND OUT.
UM, AS I WON'T BE HERE WHEN THE NEW COUNTY EXECUTIVE TAKES OVER, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE AND MAYBE THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REMAIN, UH, BRING IT TO HIS ATTENTION THAT, UH, UH, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF WHICH WE HAVE 40 OF, UH, IF UNLESS THERE'S A LAG IN THE, UM, THE OUR IT THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE, UH, ACCURATE INFORMATION, IT APPEARS THAT THERE ARE MANY BOARDS AND, AND COMMISSIONS THAT THE, UH, AND THIS CAME UP LAST WEEK WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, APPOINTMENTS TO A COUPLE OF THEM.
UM, A LOT OF THOSE TERMS HAVE EXPIRED AND SOME OF THOSE HAVE DEFINITE EXPIRATION DATES.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CARRY ON THROUGH, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GO CONTERMINOUS WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE.
THEY ARE LONG EXPIRED AND GONE.
AND, AND WE STILL HAVE EITHER PEOPLE IN THERE OR WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED TO SOME OTHER LOCATION.
THEY'RE NOT HARTFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS.
AND THE ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT, UH, I WANT TO POINT OUT AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT ONE IS DONE SOONER THAN LATER IS THE BOARD OF ETHICS.
UH, WE DON'T USE THE, UH, THE BOARD OF ETHICS THAT FREQUENTLY, BUT, UH, AS THINGS MOVE ALONG, YOU MAY SEE THAT YOU MAY HAVE A NEED TO USE THEM MORE AND HAVE, UH, HEARINGS WITH THEM AS, AS THINGS MOVE.
SO, UH, WHOEVER CAN PASS THAT ALONG, COMING UP, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOME ACTIVITY ON THOSE 40 BOARDS THAT WE, WE REFRESH THEM.
MR. BU THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF BRIEF STATEMENTS.
UM, JEAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND OUR SINCERE CONDOLENCE TO RICK EIRS AND HIS FAMILY ON THE LOSS OF, UH, THEIR MOTHER AND ALSO TO, UH, THE DARTY FAMILY ON THE LOSS OF WAYNE DARTY.
UM, AGAIN, JUST WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND OUR SINCERE CONDOLENCES AND WE'LL KEEP THEM, THE FAMILIES AND OUR PRAYERS FOR STRENGTH AND COVER.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.
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AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 17, COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS.MS. DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO.
MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE SIX THIS EVENING.
JOHN MALMO, FOLLOWED BY ELLEN CHANEL.
JUST REMIND EVERYONE OF YOUR TIME AND BE RESPECTFUL.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR, GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES.
JOHN PMO, 24 0 2 EAGLEVIEW DRIVE, BELAIRE, MARYLAND ON SIX SEPTEMBER, 2022.
I OFFERED $1,000 TO THE CHARITY OF CHOICE IN THE NAME OF WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU COULD CONCLUSIVELY PROVE THAT THE HARPER COUNTY AIRPORT COULD OPERATE A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT AS A PERMITTED USE AT ITS PRESENT LOCATION AND COMPLY WITH ALL OF PART ONE OF THE PRESENT ZONING CODE, THE HEARING EXAMINER'S CONDITIONS AND ZONING CASE 58 14 AND ALL OF THE MAA AND FAA REQUIREMENTS FOR A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT AND $500 FOR IDENTIFICATION IN ANY LOCATION IN HARFORD COUNTY FOR SUCH AN OPERATION.
I'M LEFT TO CONCLUDE THAT MY POSITION ON THE SITUATION IS CORRECT.
IT CANNOT, AND THERE IS NOT EVERYBODY I SPOKE WITH BET THE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE NO ACTION.
NO ONE WOULD CONSIDER THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE ACTION.
COUNCIL HAS BECOME KNOWN FOR TAKING NO ACTION.
YOU HAVE SHOWN YOURSELVES FOR WHAT YOU ARE ON OTHER NOTES RELATED TO LAND USE AND ZONING CODE.
MR. GLASSMAN IS NOT ON THE BALLOT FOR ANY COUNTY ELECTED POSITION.
HIS POLICIES, CURIOUS APPROACH TO LAND USE LAWS, THE ZONING CODE AND AN EXPANSIVE VIEW OF EXECUTIVE AUTHORITIES, PRACTICES, PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES WERE THEY WERE REJECTED.
MAYBE THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION WILL BE MORE ATTENTIVE TO THE ISSUES OF HARFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS, THE ZONING CODE, LAND USE LAWS, THEIR APPLICATION AND THE LIMITS OF EXECUTIVE AUTHORITIES.
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MAJORITY, NO MORE THAN THREE OF YOU COULD POSSIBLY RETURN.HOPEFULLY THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT THE ZONING CODE, LAND USE LAWS, THEIR OWN AUTHORITIES AND APPLY THEM FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL RESIDENTS, NOT JUST SPECIAL INTEREST OFFER.
COUNT COUNTY WILL DEVELOP WHETHER IT WILL LOOK LIKE PHILADELPHIA, BALTIMORE, OR WASHINGTON, DC OR NEWARK WHEN FINISHED WILL BE DECIDED IN THESE CHAMBERS.
NOT BY THE RESIDENTS OF HARFORD COUNTY, BUT THE HARFORD COUNTY COUNCIL.
PERHAPS THAT COUNCIL WILL BETTER APPRECIATE THE VOICES OF THE RESIDENTS.
THEY REPRESENT THE ZONING CODE AND LAND USE LAWS.
FINALLY, GOVERNING IS MORE THAN JUST REMINDING PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE ONLY THREE MINUTES OR ATTENDING SOCIAL ACTIVITIES WITH CONSTITUENTS WILL RUBBER STAMP APPROVALS OF LEGISLATION.
YOU GOVERN BY MY CONSENT FOR MY BENEFIT, NOT JUST THOSE OF THE SPECIAL INTEREST AND CERTAINLY NOT YOUR OWN.
I WILL THANK YOU TO REMEMBER THAT WHILE YOU WERE STILL IN OFFICE.
I THINK THAT WAS REALLY WELL SAID.
I REALLY THINK HE MADE SOME GREAT POINTS.
SO, A YEAR AGO, I NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, MA'AM.
UM, MY NAME IS ELLEN CHANEL 1704 PARK BEACH DRIVE IN PERRYMAN.
SO A YEAR AGO, PROBABLY LIKE A LOT OF HARTFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WERE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
NOW IF I'M NOT ATTENDING, I'M LIKELY WATCHING LIVE.
BUT TODAY I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THINGS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE IN HARTFORD COUNTY.
SOME EXAMPLES WOULD BE THE AMAR EMAR.
THE COUNTY LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN AN OBVIOUS MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING IS RE PERMITTED INTO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT A 19 BEDROOM, 19 BATH, 10 GARAGE HOME WILL NOT SELL IN HARVARD COUNTY.
I GET TIRED OF HEARING THAT THE DEVELOPER IS FOLLOWING CODE AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
WHERE IS THE COMMON SENSE? ON AUGUST 4TH, A HARPER COUNTY JUDGE DENIED AN INJUNCTION TO TEMPORARILY HALT THE TREE CLEARING AT ABINGTON WOODS, ALLOWING CONTINUED FOREST THE UM, FOREST REMOVAL TO OCCUR WHILE KNOWING THAT AN APPEAL WAS IN THE QUEUE.
THAT SAME JUDGE GRANTED THE CHESAPEAKE BAY FOUNDATION'S REQUEST SIX WEEKS LATER, WHICH REQUIRED THE DEVELOPER TO STOP THE CLEARING BUT WAS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THE WORK.
I PASS THAT AREA EVERY DAY AND I CAN SEE THAT THAT DEVELOPER IS WORKING HARD TO CONVERT THE ALREADY CLEARED LAND INTO ROADS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THEIR PLAN.
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT THE PROJECT WILL BE TOO FAR GONE TO REVERSE THE DAMAGE WHEN THE PROJECT IS STOPPED? WHERE IS THE COMMON SENSE NOW? A DEVELOPER, THIS IS A THIRD DEVELOPER, SO THEY'RE NOT THE SAME DEVELOPER, UM, HAS SUBMITTED A NEW PLAN FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE 711 ACRES OF FARMLAND ON THE PERIN PENINSULA.
THE PLAN HAS CHANGED TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES BY 600 SPOTS.
IT HAS DECREASED THE LARGEST SHIFT EMPLOYEE NUMBER BY 1400 TO 953.
AND WHY NOT? THIS IS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER HISTORY SHOWS THAT ONCE APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER CAN CHANGE PLANS AND STILL GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
WHERE'S THE COMMON SENSE? WHY ARE NO ELECTED OFFICIALS TRYING TO FACILITATE SAVING GREEN SPACE, SAVING FOREST, SAVING OUR WATERS IN NOVEMBER? I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THOSE REPRESENTATIVES THAT HAVE COMMON SENSE.
TIM VAN AND THEM FOLLOWED BY GENE LACO.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
I LIVE AT 1963 MITCHELL DRIVE.
I'M GIVING YOU MY ADDRESS UNDER PROTEST AS YOU BASICALLY FORCED ME.
YOU CAN SMILE ALL YOU WANT, PATRICK, BUT I DON'T SEE YOU GIVING ME, SIR.
SIR, YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THAT AIN'T GONNA WORK BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE, I I WASN'T SMILING, I WAS LISTENING WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
I WAS NOT DISRESPECTING YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT, SIR.
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I'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.JANINE LACORE, 1820 PARK BEACH DRIVE, PERRYMAN.
I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PERRYMAN PENINSULA AND AS WE'VE SEEN, THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTIONS AROUND THE TRAVESTY THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THE CITIZENS SHOULDN'T BE FAULTED FOR DEALING WITH WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH AND TO BE INFORMED IN CITIZENS.
WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO COUNTY PROJECTS AND PROGRESS REPORTS.
SO HOW CAN WE STAY CURRENT WITH PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN OUR BACKYARDS BY SHEER PERSISTENCE OF OTHERS AND SCOURING WHAT PUBLIC INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE? AS A CITIZEN OF PERRYMAN PENINSULA, I, ALONG WITH MS. CHANEL, LEARNED THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN SCOPE TO THE PROPOSED MITCHELL FARM DEVELOPMENT.
I LEARNED THE PROJECT SHIFTED TO A HIGH CUBE FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION TERMINAL, INCREASING BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 40 FEET TO 65 FEET.
YET ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT CONTORTION TO AN ALREADY GROTES PROJECT SITUATED ON THE BANKS OF THE BUSH RIVER, WHICH FEEDS DIRECTLY TO THE CHESAPEAKE GUY.
THIS PROPOSED SHIFT TO THE MASSIVE PROJECT, THE NUMBERS JUST DON'T ADD UP.
CHANGES TO EMPLOYEE COUNTS GO DOWN.
SO THERE'S A DEFICIT TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT BENEFIT IN TERMS OF JOBS, BUT CORRESPONDING PARKING SPACES AND TRAFFIC COUNTS DON'T RE REDUCE PROPORTIONATELY.
HOW CAN THIS BE OTHER THAN CITIZENS BEING AFFECTED BY THE PROJECT WHO'S PAYING ATTENTION? CLEARLY AS MR. WAGNER STATED, WE'VE LET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES SUCH AS A BOARD OF ETHICS AND OTHERS LAPSE HAS THE COUNTY GOTTEN SO COZY WITH OUTSIDE INTEREST THAT WERE BLIND TO ILLOGICAL MATHEMATICAL MANIPULATIONS.
MEANWHILE, PERRYMAN REMAINS UNDERSERVED WITH HOUSEHOLD INCOMES LESS THAN THE HARTFORD COUNTY AVERAGE.
AS HARTFORD COUNTY PREPARES TO CELEBRATE 250 YEARS.
WHAT SHOULD WE CELEBRATE IN PERRYMAN? 30 YEARS OF DUMPING IN PERRYMAN HAS NOT PRODUCED THE PROMISED ECONOMIC BENEFITS FOR 30 YEARS.
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A COUNTY OVERSIGHT, BUT NOW THAT THE COUNTY CLEARLY KNOWS IT'S CALLED DISCRIMINATION.
GREG LACORE, FOLLOWED BY STACY STONE.
GREG LACORE FOR 1820 PARK BEACH DRIVE.
UM, WHAT GOOD OF ENTERPRISE, UH, ZONES BROUGHT TO THE RESIDENCE IN OUR AREA? THE ENTERPRISE ZONES IS A GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT HAS BEEN GRANTED SPECIAL TAX RATES AND, UH, EXEMPTIONS IN HARFORD COUNTY.
ABERDEEN, TY GRACE EDGE WOODEN JOB, THE DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE THE CREATION OF WELL PAYING JOBS, ENSURE RETENTION AND SPUR EXPANSION OF RESIDENTS BUSINESSES, PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT AND OCCUPANCY OF VACANT, UNDERUTILIZED LAND AND BUILDINGS.
SUPPORT THE COUNTY'S COMMITMENT OR REVITALIZE IN OLDER INDUSTRIAL AREAS OF HARFORD COUNTY.
THIS TAX INCENTIVES, THE TAX CREDITS AVAILABLE FOR 10 YEARS ON PROPERTY TAXES.
THIS TAX CREDIT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS TAX CREDIT PER PERSON IN THE FIRST YEAR AND INCREASES TO 6,000 PER EMPLOYEE OVER THREE IN 2022.
WE STILL HAVE EMPTY, UH, FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ON ROUTE 40 IN THE PERRYMAN AREA.
THESE THINGS ARE READY TO BE OCCUPIED FOR THESE PAST NINE MONTHS THIS YEAR.
RESIDENTS IN PERRYMAN, WHAT HAVE WE GOTTEN FOR CHIP ROAD? PREPARES ON CANNING HOUSE, CLUBHOUSE AND LOCUS ROAD.
IT'S BEEN NO PROGRESS OR DESIGNED ON ANYTHING ON SPIA ROAD PROJECTS.
DROP THE PER PARK UH, PROJECT.
ALSO ENTERPRISE ZONES RESOLUTION 1217 WAS SPONSORED BY UH, COUNCILMAN BULO.
IT ADDED 114 ACRES TO THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.
BESIDES THE TWO LOTS ON THE PERRYMAN ROAD AND ONE ON CHELSEA ROAD,
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IT ADDED 88 ACRES.IT'S A LOT ON OLD STEPHANIE ROAD.
THIS EXPANSION CAME OUTSIDE THE 10 YEAR REEVALUATION CYCLE OF THE NORMAL ENTERPRISE ZONE, WHO'S ALSO ONE OF SIX CURRENT COUNCILMEN THAT VOTED TO EXPAND THE ENTERPRISE ZONING.
AON RESOLUTION SEVEN 19 ON, UH, THE 9TH OF APRIL, 2019 TO GIVE TAX BREAKS FOR THE ABSON WOODS.
IT WAS ALSO OUTSIDE THE 10 YEAR RENEWAL CYCLE.
NOW COMES SOME QUESTIONS DURING THIS RESOLUTIONS.
THESE RESOLUTIONS DURING THIS TIME, ANY UH, IMPROVEMENTS RESOLUTIONS TO IMPROVE THE BUS STOPS? NO.
NOW I BROUGHT THIS, UH, SUBJECT UP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION LAST YEAR.
ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEIR TRANSPORTATION, HELPING THESE PEOPLE GAIN GOOD EMPLOYMENT AND TO GET THEM BACK ON THEIR FEET.
SO YOU CAN JUST SAY THAT WITH ALL OF THIS, THAT THE COUNCIL VOTED IN 2017 TO ADD THREE MORE PARCELS OF LAND PERRYMAN TO THE ENTERPRISE ZONE.
28 ACRES ON, UH, THE PERRYMAN.
THE QUESTION COUNCIL AND, UH, BUILDING.
DID YOU ASK ANYBODY OUTSIDE THE, UH, THE HOMEOWNERS? DO YOU ASK ANYBODY OUTSIDE THE LANDOWNERS? DID YOU CONSULT WITH ANYBODY AT THE RESIDENCE IN THIS AREA? THANK YOU.
STACY STONE, 2106 PARK BEACH DRIVE.
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ON STATE HIGHWAY.
UM, TIM SMITH'S GROUP COMING TO VI HARFORD COUNTY AS AS IS DONE ANNUALLY.
UM, QUITE FAMILIAR WITH CPTP AND, AND THE TOURS THAT HAPPENED.
UM, BEEN INVOLVED WITH THOSE IN THE PAST MYSELF.
UM, I WAS QUITE DISAPPOINTED TO SEE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CTP.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE FOR PERRYMAN.
NOT SURPRISED, BUT DISAPPOINTED.
SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD, LET'S TALK A BIT ABOUT SPIA ROAD.
UM, WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THE OVERNIGHT VEHICLE MONITORING SYSTEM? SINCE THIS LAW WAS ENACTED BY STATE, WHAT HAS THE COUNTY DONE? IS THERE A COUNTY LAW ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT'S REQUIRED.
UM, WHERE'S THAT TEAM THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT TOGETHER TO ANALYZE LOCATIONS FOR OVER HIGH VEHICLE DETECTION SYSTEMS? UM, IRONICALLY ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS EVALUATING EXISTING SIGNAGE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
I PERSONALLY HAVE DONE THAT IN PERRYMAN, MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS STATE HIGHWAY, WORKING WITH HARFORD COUNTY, TRYING TO GET THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THE TWO JURISDICTIONS BUT UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.
WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DONE? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? ARE YOU EVER GOING TO DO SOMETHING FOR US? CAUSE WE'RE WAITING.
MS. STONE, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF TIME SPENT ON PERRYMAN AND, UH, OTHER ROADS DURING THAT MEETING, DURING THE CTP MEETING.
AND I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH YOU AFTER THIS MEETING.
THERE WAS, YOU CAN ASK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
IT WAS I'LL, I'LL MEET WITH YOU AFTER YOU'RE LOOKING AT I WAS HERE.
I HEARD THE CONVERSATION SO I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU.
YEAH, NO, I'M JUST SAYING I HAVE THE DOCUMENT.
UM, WITH NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.