Oct 18, 2022 County Council

$500,000 IN GRANT MONEY TO RESIDENTS FOR SEPTIC SYSTEM REPAIR THROUGHOUT COVID, OUR VITAL RECORDS UNIT WAS RUNNING IN ON APPOINTMENTS THAT WERE SPACED APART FOR SAFETY REASONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU LADIES.

OUR CLINICAL HEALTH BUREAU OFFERS MANY VACCINES BASED ON AVAILABILITY.

THE CDC NOW RECOMMENDS PRIMARY COVID VACCINES FOR PEOPLE AGES SIX MONTHS AND OLDER, AS WELL AS UPDATED BY VALENT COVID BOOSTERS FOR PEOPLE AGES FIVE YEARS AND OLDER APPOINTMENTS.

AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CAN BE OBTAINED AT OUR WOODBRIDGE CLINIC AT 1321 WOODBRIDGE STATION.

WAY IN EDGEWOOD IT WITH THE GROWING NEED FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN OUR COUNTY FOR OUR SCHOOL AGED KIDS.

THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BUREAU IS IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A YOUTH AND ADOLESCENT COUNSELOR AND ALSO A SPANISH SPEAKING COUNSELOR.

IN ADDITION, MANY COMMUNITY PARTNERS CAME TOGETHER ONCE AGAIN TO CELEBRATE RECOVERY MONTH IN SEPTEMBER.

THERE WERE PURPLE LIGHTS ON MAIN STREET BANNERS ON BUILDINGS AND UPLIFTING PERSONAL STORIES OF RECOVERY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

AND HERE ARE SOME OF OUR STAFF SHOWING OFF THEIR THEIR PURPLE SPIRIT.

DURING FY 22, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH BUREAU UTILIZED OVER $535,000 IN GRANT MONEY FROM THE BAY RESTORATION FUND TO FINANCIALLY ASSIST HARFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS WITH THE REPAIR OF THEIR FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THE F Y 22 COMPLETED PROJECTS CONSISTED OF 32 ONSITE SEPTIC REPAIRS AND ONE PUBLIC SEWER SEE CONNECTION.

THIS IS THE THIRD FISCAL YEAR IN A ROW WHERE HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS APPROVED OVER

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JUST RECENTLY, WE FINALLY MOVED FULLY BACK TO WALK-IN APPOINTMENTS, WHICH IS SO MUCH MORE CONVENIENT TO THE PUBLIC BIRTH AND DEATH CERTIFICATES CAN BE OBTAINED FROM EIGHT TO FOUR ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AT OUR ONE 20 SOUTH HAYES LOCATION.

OUR POPULATION HEALTH UNIT PROGRAMS ARE HOSTING SOME GREAT UPCOMING EVENTS.

THE FIRST EVENT IS A COMMUNITY HEALTH EVENT THAT WILL BE HELD ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 23RD AT THE MARY RESTOW COURTHOUSE PARKING LOT FROM 12 TO FOUR.

EXCUSE ME.

THIS EVENT WILL HAVE MANY COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITH RESOURCES, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ATTENDEES WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE FREE HEALTH SCREENINGS SUCH AS BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS AND DIABETES RISK ASSESSMENT SCREENINGS.

AT THE EVENT SAVE MART INTERNATIONAL FOOD WILL ALSO BE ATTENDING AND PROVIDING FREE GROCERIES.

THE SECOND EVENT IS HOSTED BY OUR MIN MINORITY HEALTH PROGRAM AND REGISTRATION IS BEGUN FOR THEIR NEXT YOUTH SYMPOSIUM FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS.

THE SYMPOSIUM WILL BE HELD ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH FROM 6:30 PM TO 12:00 AM AT THE ABERDEEN EPICENTER.

THE EVENT IS FREE AND WE'LL DISCUSS TOPICS SUCH AS THE BENEFITS OF SELF CARE, CYBER BULLYING, SOCIAL MEDIA ETIQUETTE, AND VARIOUS MENTAL HEALTH TOPICS SUCH AS DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY.

THEY HAVE AMAZING GUEST SPEAKERS WHO WILL BE AN AT ATTENDANT, SUCH AS MS. TAYLOR WILLIAMS, WHO WAS MS. MARYLAND INTERNATIONAL IN 2022.

KUDOS TO FELICIA HOPKINS AND MICHELLE PETERSON, WHO RECEIVED PRAISE FROM THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

FOR HOSTING EVENTS THAT ARE NOT DONE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE, PEOPLE CAN GO TO THE HAR COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WEBSITE FOR THE FLYER AND LEARN HOW TO REGISTER.

THE HARFORD COUNTY LOCAL IMPROVEMENT COALITION BRINGS ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND INTERESTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS TOGETHER TO DISCUSS AND WORK ON IMPROVING HEALTH DISPARITIES IN THE COUNTY AND HOSTS THE COALITION'S ANNUAL MEETING EACH YEAR.

THE L H CONCENTRATES ON THE THREE PRIORITIES THAT WERE DETERMINED BY THE MEMBERS.

THEY ARE BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, FAMILY HEALTH AND RESILIENCY, AND CHRONIC DISEASE PREVENTION AND WELLNESS.

THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WORK GROUP FOCUSES ON ADDRESSING MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES, NEEDS AND IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OVERDOSE PREVENTION.

THE FAMILY HEALTH AND RESILIENCY WORK GROUP FOCUSES PRIMARILY ON CONNECTING PREGNANT AND POSTPARTUM.

WOMEN EXPERIENCE SUBSTANCE, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES, TREATMENT AND RESILIENCY RESOURCES.

MOST RECENTLY THEY BEGAN CONCENTRATING ON INFANT MORTALITY.

THE CHRONIC DISEASE PREVENTION AND WELLNESS GROUP HAS THREE MAIN AREAS OF FOCUS.

I'M SORRY, I'M FORGETTING TO NOPE, WE'RE STILL THERE.

UM, HEALTHY.

UM, THE CHRONIC DISEASE PREVENTION WELLNESS WORK GROUP HAS THREE MAIN AREAS OF FOCUS, HEALTHY EATING AND ACTIVE LIVING, CANCER PREVENTION, SCREENING, AND TOBACCO USE PREVENTION.

THE WORK GROUP IS ALSO DEDICATED TO IMPROVING HEALTH LITERACY WITHIN EACH FOCUS AREA.

MOST RECENTLY, THE GROUP HAS PLACED A STRONG FOCUS ON DIABETES PREVENTION.

THE NEXT THREE SLIDES ARE TOPICS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE ANNUAL L H MEETING.

FIRST THE TOP, THE UM, TOP CAUSE OF MORTALITY IN HARFORD COUNTY IN 2020 WAS HEART DISEASE FOLLOWED BY CANCER, THEN C COVID DUE TO THE RISE OF COVID CASES IN 2020.

AND NO VACCINE DEVELOPMENT AT THAT STAGE IN THE PANDEMIC.

COVID BECAME THE THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN HARTFORD COUNTY, THE LEADING CHRONIC CONDITIONS RESULTING IN THE MOST EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT VISITS IN HARTFORD COUNTY, OUR HYPERTENSION, MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS AND HYPERLIPIDEMIA FOR INFANT MORTALITY.

BLACK WOMEN HAVE HIGHER RATES OF INFANT MORTALITY EACH YEAR IN 2020.

79.2% OF INFANT MORTALITY CASES WERE NON-HISPANIC BLACK WOMEN AND ONLY 20.8% WERE NON-HISPANIC WHITE WOMEN.

THESE THREE TOPICS WILL BE DISCUSSED IN MORE DETAIL AT THE EL H MEETING NEXT MONTH.

AND THIS IS THE FLYER FOR OUR 2022 ANNUAL EL H MEETING, WHICH WILL BE HELD TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH FROM EIGHT TO 1130 AT THE HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE CHESAPEAKE CENTER.

WE HOPE YOU CAN ALL JOIN US THERE.

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THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS PARTNERING WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND UPPER CHESAPEAKE HEALTH AND THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO PROVIDE FREE FLU VACCINES ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 30TH FROM NINE TO ONE.

IT WILL BE A DRIVE THROUGH CLINIC AT THE EMISSIONS TESTING SITE.

FOREST HILL.

THIS IS FOR AGES SIX MONTHS AND OLDER HIGH DOSE VACCINE IS AVAILABLE FOR OVER 65.

NO APPOINTMENTS NECESSARY AND NO NEED TO GET OUT OF YOUR CAR.

THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS PROVIDING THE COVID TEST KITS FOR FREE TO ANYONE RECEIVING THE FLU VACCINE.

NOW I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DR.

JAMIE SEBE, OUR NEW DEPUTY HEALTH OFFICER IF YOU WANNA COME UP.

UH, DR.

SEBEL STARTED WITH US ON SEPTEMBER 7TH.

HER PRIMARY ROLE IS TO PROVIDE MEDICAL OVERSIGHT TO ALL OF OUR CLINICAL OPERATIONS.

IN PARTICULAR OUR CLINICAL HEALTH BUREAU LOCATED AT OUR WOODBRIDGE SITE IN EDGEWOOD AND OUR NEWEST CLINIC SERVICES AT ONE NORTH MAIN FAMILY HEALTH CENTER.

AND NOW I'LL GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE HER BACKGROUND AND WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE HER HERE.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU ALL AND TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

MARCY SAID I'VE HAD A GREAT INTRODUCTION TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND TO BEING HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LITTLE OVER A MONTH NOW AND IT'S REALLY EXCITING AND I'VE GOTTEN TO WORK WITH GREAT PEOPLE AND GET INVOLVED WITH THESE PROGRAMS THAT MARCY'S ALREADY DESCRIBED.

SO A BIT ABOUT MYSELF.

I GREW UP IN MARYLAND.

I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND SCHOOL OF MEDICINE FOR MY MEDICAL DEGREE AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY COMPLETED MY PREVENTATIVE MEDICINE AND PUBLIC HEALTH RESIDENCY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND AS WELL.

I DID AN INTERN YEAR IN INTERNAL MEDICINE AT THE MEDSTAR HOSPITALS, INCLUDING FRANKLIN SQUARE, NOT TOO FAR AWAY.

SO I AM TRAINED IN PREVENTIVE MEDICINE AND PUBLIC HEALTH, WHICH IS WHY I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

AND CUZ THOSE ARE MY PASSIONS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING TO REALLY WORK ON.

WHILE HERE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

I ALSO EARNED MY MPH IN EPIDEMIOLOGY.

SO I'LL BE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF, UH, EPIDEMIOLOGY RELATED TOPICS HERE.

AND THE POPULATION HEALTH UNIT THAT MARCY DESCRIBED, UH, THAT'S ABOUT ME SO FAR.

I LIVE IN MIDDLE RIVER AND, UM, QUICK, QUICK COMMUTE.

AND I HAVE TWO CHILDREN AND MM-HMM , JUST REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND, AND WORK ON WHAT I FIND TO BE, UM, MOST INTERESTING AND, AND THINGS THAT I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT.

AND I'M JUST FORTUNATE THAT THESE ARE AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY COVERED SO WELL BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND I GOT RIGHT IN THERE ALREADY.

SO YEAH, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW YOU ALL OVER THESE COMING YEARS OR MONTHS.

WHY DON'T YOU STAY RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

SO USED TO STAY RIGHT THERE AND, AND LOOK AT THIS LITTLE, LITTLE PICTURE RIGHT HERE.

DO YOU SEE THAT? ? SEE THAT LITTLE FACE? .

SO THIS IS MY NEW LITTLE GRANDBABY.

I PUT HIM IN HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO, AND THIS IS MY POWERPOINT .

HIS NAME IS SILAS, WHICH MEANS OF THE WOODS.

SO YOU CAN SEE HE'S DRESSED APPROPRIATELY IN CASE HE VENTURES OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE.

THAT IS CAM CAMOUFLAGE PANTS.

THIS IS NOW THE LITTLE FACE I THINK ABOUT DAILY.

AND AS WE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILD ALL OF OUR NEW PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS, EXCUSE ME, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THIS NEW INSPIRATION.

I HAVE HOPE THAT THIS WORLD BECOMES A KINDER PLACE AS COVID BECOMES MORE MANAGEABLE.

AND I WISH FOR HIM THE HAPPIEST, BRIGHTEST AND HEALTHIEST FUTURE MIXED WITH A LITTLE MISCHIEF.

OF COURSE.

AND ON THAT NOTE, THANK YOU.

HIS MOM MIGHT BE IN THE ROOM.

HI .

SO MARCY, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME OTHER TEAM MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE.

WOULD YOU INTRODUCE THEM PLEASE? SURE, SURE.

WE MET PAULA AND HE NES OKAY, BACK THERE.

WE'VE GOT FELICIA AND LINDA DUES.

IS THAT LAUREN BEHIND? HI LAUREN.

UM, ASHLEY.

OH MY GOD, I'M REMEMBERING JOHN .

HIM DR.

MO.

, UH, RONYA IS BACK THERE.

AND I THINK THAT'S IT.

DID I MISS ANYBODY? WELL, LET ME, UH, LET ME THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT.

LET ME ALSO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS OF HARTFORD COUNTY.

AND DR.

SABEL, I ASKED YOU TO STAY THERE BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUES, UH, MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

BOY, I TRIED TO SAVE YOU SOME UP AND DOWN.

GO BACK TO THAT.

SO, UM, COUNCIL AT, AT THIS TIME, I KNOW COUNCILMAN BU YOU HAD A QUESTION EARLIER.

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THERE WE GO.

UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, MARCIE.

AND AS ALWAYS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS ON THE PLAN, UH, AMOUNTS.

LET'S SEE, WHERE WAS THAT? THE FIRST ONE WAS THE PLEDGE GRANT, THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

THAT WAS A THREE YEAR PROGRAM.

THREE YEAR GRANT.

AND WHAT WAS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ON THAT? IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THREE YEARS.

SO MIL A LITTLE OVER 330,000 FOR EACH YEAR.

OH, SO IT'S A MILLION TOTAL.

TOTAL, OKAY.

UH, AND THE NEXT GRANT, THAT ONE, LET ME THINK THAT WAS, HMM.

NOW I KNOW YOU'RE TAKING YOUR PRE, SO GO AHEAD.

HUNDRED.

500 AND SOME, UM, OVER TWO YEARS.

OVER TWO YEARS.

JUST 500 PLUS THINK.

IS THAT CORRECT GUYS? MM-HMM.

AND THEN BACK, UH, NOW YOU SAID IN 2020 THAT CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE WAS THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH IN HARTFORD COUNTY.

UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, IN 2019, WAS IT CARDIOVASCULAR OR CANCER? OH, NOW WE HAVE A PHYSICIAN, AND WE HAVE ONE BACK THERE.

SO, AND CARDIOVASCULAR IS THE, THE WAITING DOCTOR, CAN YOU PULL THAT MICROPHONE CLOSER TOO? FOR SURE.

CLOSE.

I HAVEN'T READ YOU THE SPECIFIC DATA, BUT IN GENERAL, CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH.

YEAH, I KNOW.

STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT I KNOW FOR QUITE A WHILE, UH, STOP SHAKING.

I SAID YES, CANCER WAS THE CAUSE OF DEATH HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY AND NOW I SEE IN 20.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT BIT.

WELL, MAYBE WE'RE DOING BETTER WITH THE CANCER OR WHATEVER.

AND SHE ALWAYS SAY WE'RE, I PUT IT THIS WAY, WE'RE BACK ON PAR WITH , THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAD COUNSEL PRESENT.

THANK YOU MR. BULO.

MR. JERDEN.

GOOD EVENING, MARCY.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING.

HOW ARE YOU, DR.

SEBEL? YOU'LL LOOK REALLY FAMILIAR.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE, BUT, BUT, UH, UH, HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T HAVE TO SEE YOU FOR SOMETHING AND I DON'T OH MY GOSH.

BUT, UH, GLAD YOU'RE A MARYLAND GRAD.

SO, UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS.

MARCY, THE LOW INCOME, WHAT'S THE, UH, FOR THE HEALTHY HAPPY HOMES PROGRAM? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF LOW INCOME? WHAT'S CONSIDERED LOW INCOME? SO, AND AS DOES IT RISE UP WITH INFLATION? GOSH, KIM, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, IF YOU CAN GET BACK TO US, THAT THAT FINE.

JUST CURIOUS.

I'LL PROBABLY ON THE SLIDE, BUT WE WE GET THAT.

YEAH, I JUST SAW THAT AND JUST WAS WONDERING WHAT LOW INCOME WAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I SAW SOME OF THE THINGS, WHICH I KNOW REALLY HELPS SOME OF THESE OLDER PEOPLE.

UM, DO WE ANTICIPATE ANOTHER GRANT FOR THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS? DO WE KNOW WHAT A RESTORATION WE GET THAT EVERY YEAR.

WE GET THAT EVERY YEAR.

RESTAURANTS, INSPECTIONS ON RESTAURANTS, EXISTING RESTAURANTS, NEW RESTAURANTS.

UM, THIRD QUESTION.

, I THINK WE WERE GONNA QUESTION JOHN OR SOMETHING.

GUESS WHO'S IN THE ROOM? .

PARDON? GUESS WHO'S IN THE ROOM? JOHN UHHUH.

SO I, I I HAVE A COMMON QUESTIONS, JOHN .

QUESTIONS ON, ON RESTAURANT INSPECTIONS.

SO, UM, CAN YOU COME FORWARD, JOHN? YEAH.

IT'S A COOL SEAT.

I KNOW HE'S LOVING THIS.

OH YEAH.

WHICH I TRIED TELLING HIM.

IT'S A COOL SEAT.

GOOD EVENING, JOHN.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, NOT ONLY EXISTING RE LET'S GO TO THE EXISTING RESTAURANTS THERE, THERE'S COME TO MY LIGHT THAT THERE'S SOME RESTAURANTS THAT ARE PROBABLY IN POOR SHAPE CLEANLINESS WISE.

AND, UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN AN INSPECTION OR TWO HERE AND THERE, BUT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, UM, ANYTHING WAS DONE OTHER THAN YOU.

MAYBE YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL? HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GUYS GOING IN? IF, IF YOU SEE, UH, MICE, RODENTS, ROACHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN THERE IN A CASE LIKE THAT? OKAY, SO BOY, UM, THE SIMPLE WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS IF, IF YOU'RE SEEING A MASS INFESTATION OF INSECT OR VERMIN AND IT'S GOING OVER TOP OF FOOD PREP, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT OR FOOD PREP SURFACES, A LOT OF TIMES IF THE INFESTATION IS TO THAT DEGREE, WE WOULD CLOSE THE FACILITY UNTIL THEY GET A PEST OP, YOU KNOW, PEST CONTROL OPERATOR IN TO MITIGATE THE SITUATION.

LIKE WE, WITHOUT GOING INTO SPECIFIC DETAILS, WE CLOSED THE FACILITY RECENTLY THAT HAD, YOU KNOW, A REALLY BAD ROACH INFESTATION

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AND THE PEST APPLICATOR CAME OUT, DID SOME, YOU KNOW, REMEDIATION, SOME TREATMENT, UM, SOME, SOME STUFF THAT THEY COULDN'T DO WHILE THE FACILITY WAS IN OPERATION.

AND ONCE THE CONDITIONS WERE UNDER CONTROL, THE PLACE GOT CLEANED UP, THEN WE ALLOWED THEM TO REOPEN.

SO IS THAT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE RESTAURANTS TO CLOSE AND WHY THEY CLOSE? SO IF YOU WERE INQUIRING ABOUT A SPECIFIC RESTAURANT, WE WOULD RELEASE THAT INFORMATION THROUGH, UM, WHAT'S CALLED A PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUEST.

SO IS THAT ONLY IF YOU KNEW THE NAME OF THE RESTAURANT? WELL, IF YOU WERE IN JUST ANY RESTAURANTS? YEAH, SO I GUESS THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS IF WE CLOSE A FACILITY, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, SEND THAT OUT TO THE MEDIA AND BROADCAST THAT.

BUT IF, UH, LIKE WE HAD A, A REQUEST RECENTLY ABOUT A COMPLAINT WE INVESTIGATED WHERE THE COMPLAINANT FILED A COMPLAINT WITH US.

WE INVESTIGATED A, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATED THE COMPLAINT.

THEY CALLED THE NEWSPAPER, AND THE NEWSPAPER WAS ASKING US QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OBSERVATIONS THAT WE OBSERVED DURING OUR INSPECTION OF THE COMPLAINT.

AND GENERALLY WE'LL ANSWER THOSE REQUESTS.

JUST, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT FROM THE PUBLIC, WE GO OUT, WE PERFORM AN INSPECTION, AND IF THEY WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, COPIES OF THE INSPECTION REPORTS, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO FILL OUT A PIA, WE WOULD RELEASE IT TO THEM AND THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THE PUBLIC RECORDS.

BUT WE GENERALLY AREN'T RELEASING EVERY TIME WE CLOSE A FACILITY FOR, FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

BUT IF THEY INQUIRE AND THEY MAKE A REQUEST, THEN WE WOULD RELEASE IT TO YOU.

SO IF YOU HAD A PLACE THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, JUST SEND US A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND WE WOULD SEND YOU THE INSPECTION REPORTS.

UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOUR HIGH PRIORITY FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD BE YOUR FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS THAT YOU WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, GO TO GET A SIT DOWN MEAL.

THEY'RE GENERALLY INSPECTED THREE TIMES A YEAR.

IF THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED CRITICAL ITEM VIOLATIONS, WE, WE CLOSE THEM FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD DO RE-INSPECTIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR TYPICAL SIT DOWN RESTAURANT SHOULD SEE US THREE TIMES A YEAR.

UM, THINGS THAT WOULD BE LIKE A CONVENIENCE STORE TYPE OPERATION, THEY WOULD SEE US, YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR.

AND THEN PLACES THAT WOULD BE LIKE A, A RETAIL PACKAGE STORE, UM, SUCH AS LIKE A DOLLAR GENERAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY WOULD BE EVERY TWO YEARS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OPEN FOOD.

UM, ALL THOSE MANDATES HAVE TO DO WITH STAFFING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MORE STAFFING THAT WE HAVE, THE MORE CAPABLE WE ARE OF MEETING THOSE MANDATES.

SO IF WE HAVE TURNOVER OR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 50 NEW IN, YOU KNOW, 50 NEW FACILITIES THAT OPENED, BUT THE STAFFING HAS STAYED THE SAME.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MEET MANDATES WHEN YOUR RESOURCES HAVE BEEN STAGNANT AND YOUR DEMANDS HAVE INCREASED.

SO I MEAN THAT'S, I COULD GO ON FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THIS MEETING IS SUPPOSED TO LAST, NOT TONIGHT.

ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THAT.

IF, IF SOMEBODY, IF YOU GET HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT CALL IN AND GET SICK, MAYBE SOMAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHEN DO YOU CLOSE DOWN A RESTAURANT IN, IN A CASE LIKE THAT? PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'VE GOT, IS THERE, IS THERE A NUMBER MAYBE DR.

SADEL WOULD, YOU KNOW THAT, I MEAN, IS THERE, IS THERE AN INSTANCE WHERE IF YOU GOT SIX PEOPLE TO HAVE SALMONELLA, DO YOU, DO YOU CLOSE THE RESTAURANT OR WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT CASE? I, I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF THAT PROCEDURE AND HOW THAT WORKS AND KIND OF CURIOUS ON THAT.

SO THE OUTBREAK BY THE STATE DEFINITION IS TWO OR MORE UNRELATED PEOPLE THAT ARE, UM, CONFIRMED TO HAVE THE SAME DISEASE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A HOUSEHOLD, YOU KNOW, IN MY IMMEDIATE HOUSE THERE'S FIVE MEMBERS.

SO IF WE ALL HAD SALMONELLA, THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CONSTITUTE AN OUTBREAK.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD SALMONELLA AND ANOTHER PERSON AT EIGHT FROM THE SAME FACILITY HAD SALMONELLA, THAT WOULD BE A, YOU KNOW, A, A BONAFIDE OUTBREAK.

AS FAR AS THE STATE IS CONCERNED, WE GET A COMPLAINT OF A SINGLE INSTANCE OF ILLNESS.

WE'LL INSPECT THAT.

NOW, WHAT LEADS TO CLOSURE ISN'T NECESSARILY THE ILLNESS BY ITSELF, BUT WHAT WE MIGHT FIND DURING THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION, SO LIKE IF I WAS INSPECTING A PLACE AND THEY HAVE A SANITARY SEWER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOW AND THE, YOU KNOW, KITCHEN IS FLOODED WITH SEWAGE, I WOULD CLOSE THEM IMMEDIATELY.

YOU KNOW, IF I WENT OUT TO A FACILITY AND THEY HAVE NO REFRIGERATION THAT'S FUNCTIONAL, I WOULD CLOSE THEM IMMEDIATELY.

BUT IF SOMEBODY JUST IMPROPERLY HANDLED A, YOU KNOW, 20 POUND ROAST OF BEEF, GENERALLY THAT WOULDN'T BE A CLOSURE.

WE WOULD JUST DISCARD THAT PRODUCT BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY TO CORRECT,

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YOU KNOW, MISHANDLED FOOD YOU HAD JUST DISCARD IT.

AGAIN, I COULD GO IN LIKE FOREVER.

NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

JUST, JUST WANTED A BRIEF EXPLANATION ON THAT AND UH, I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT HOW OFTEN YOU GO OUT ON THE FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS.

SO KNOWING THAT YOU GUYS GO OUT THREE TIMES A YEAR, UM, IS, IS IS GOOD AND, UH, IF THERE WAS A RESTAURANT IN QUESTION, YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO ME ABOUT WHEN YOU WENT OUT AND INSPECTED THAT RESTAURANT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND, AND THOSE ROUTINE INSPECTIONS DO NOT INCLUDE COMPLAINTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET, UM, 50 CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ON A FACILITY AND THOSE WOULD ALL BE INSPECTED REGARDLESS IF WE WERE THERE FOR THREE ROUTINE INSPECTIONS OR NOT.

ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. JERDEN AND MR. WOODS.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THE VITAL, UH, RECORD ISSUE.

IS THAT, HAS THAT BEEN RESOLVED WITH THE HACK A FEW YEARS AGO? OH, YOU MEAN THE, THE STATEWIDE, YES.

DO WE HAVE A WAY OF, UH, ISSUING THEM ON THE GRAM, THE GRANDMOTHER'S CERTIFICATE STILL.

OH, HAD, WAS IT WHERE THEY HELD UP 2015? RIGHT.

SO WE CAN DO THAT NOW.

EXCELLENT.

THERE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE WOULD BE PUT IN, BUT THEY ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, B A T SEPTICS, RIGHT? I DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS A, UM, IT HELPS OUT FOLKS TREMENDOUSLY, ESPECIALLY THOSE ON FIXED INCOMES.

THANK YOU, MR. WOODS.

ANYONE ELSE? MR. ODES? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, ESPECIALLY ABOUT JOHN'S HERE.

UM, I'M NOT GOING TO GO REAL LONG.

WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS AGO.

WE SURE HAVE.

SO, UM, THE BAY RESTORATION FUNDS I SAW WHERE FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW WERE, WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, UH, WITHIN ABOUT A $500,000 BUDGET.

I KNOW A LOT OF 'EM WERE SEPTIC REPAIRS AND THE NEW SYSTEMS AS WELL AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC SEWER HOOKUPS.

UM, IS, IS THAT NUMBER ALWAYS AROUND THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THERE'S SOME KIND OF, UH, RATIO BASED ON HOW MUCH WE COLLECT THROUGH THROUGH THAT FEE, AND THEN IT'S, IT'S KICKED BACK OUT TO US, OR COULD WE USE MORE OR DOES IT DEPEND ON HOW OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING IT? BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF, IF WE'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS, MAYBE YOU AREN'T SPENDING OUR MONEY DOWN, COULD, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO, TO HAVE MORE, UH, FUNDING IN THAT BUDGET OR ARE YOU ABOUT AT YOUR MAX? SO, UM, IN ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WORKS IS THERE IS A FUND THAT EVERY, UM, RESIDENT OF MARYLAND PAYS INTO, AND THEN MDE IS OBLIGATED TO DISTRIBUTE THAT MONEY BASED ON A FORMULA ON THE COUNTY'S CRITICAL AREAS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY POSSESS.

NOW, HARTFORD COUNTY, WE HAVE SOME CRITICAL CRITICAL AREA.

MOST OF IT'S SERVICED BY PUBLIC UTILITIES.

AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE PROVING GROUNDS.

HOWEVER, I ALWAYS ASK FOR A FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER, LOTS OF RECORD WITH OLDER SYSTEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T DESIGNED ACCORDING TO TODAY'S STANDARDS.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE SOME SEWER PETITIONS THAT I'M WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER AND SEWER ON TO BRING, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SEWER TO THESE AREAS TO SERVICE, UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN, IN GROSS NEED OF PUBLIC UTILITIES.

SO, YOU KNOW, I ASK FOR $800,000 AND THEY MIGHT GIVE ME, YOU KNOW, 700.

SO, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, LIKE IN FY 21, I WAS AWARDED 776,000 AND I SPENT 759,000 OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, SO IN FY 20 I WAS AWARDED 676,000, YOU KNOW, SO I CAN GET A FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE I CAN JUST JUSTIFY THE NEED WITHIN, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT, THAT MD HAS TO COMPLY WITH.

YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR TO START FY 23, I WAS AWARDED 325,000.

WE'VE HAD THAT ALLOCATED FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

SO I'M WAITING FOR, UM, THE CHANCE TO GET AN ADDITIONAL ROUND OF FUNDING AND USUALLY I PUT THAT REQUEST IN NEXT MONTH, SO DECEMBER, JANUARY IN ORDER TO MOVE SOME MORE PROJECTS FORWARD BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR ALL THESE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, PERMITTING.

RIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN ALWAYS USE MORE MONEY, BUT THEN I HAVE TO FIGHT WITH CONTRACTORS AND TIMING AND ALL THOSE THINGS TO GET THINGS WRAPPED UP BY THE FISCAL YEAR.

BUT SURE, YOU KNOW, I, I USUALLY AM PRETTY SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING SUBSTANTIAL QUANTITIES OF MONEY FROM MDE.

RIGHT.

AND ON THE, UM, THE SEPTIC SIDE, THOSE ARE PRIMARILY, UM, THE B A T SYSTEMS, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, WE, YOU KNOW, SO THESE WOULD BE REPAIRS THAT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER REQUIRE A B A T EVEN, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE THE DESIGN OF THE SYSTEM REQUIRES A B A T TO MAKE SURE THE WASTE WATER GOING OUT TO THE DISPOSAL AREA IS THE BEST QUALITY IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE IT'S THE LAST REPAIR ON THE PROPERTY.

UM,

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AND, UM, OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, THESE LOTS WERE RECORDED BEFORE, UM, PERKS WERE REQUIRED.

YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTIONS ON TAX MAPS ESSENTIALLY, AND THOSE BECAME YOUR LOT.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK OFTENTIMES, UM, THE SEPTICS END UP FAILING CUZ NOW WE DO ALL THAT WORK UP FRONT SO YOU KNOW WHERE TO PUT THE HOUSE IN THE SEPTIC AND TYPICALLY THEY CAN LAST A VERY LONG TIME IF THEY'RE TAKEN CARE OF.

YEAH, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

YEP.

SO, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW YOU WERE COMING.

I GUESS THE, THE OTHER LITTLE PART TO THAT, I KNOW THE B A T, THAT THAT STANDS FOR BEST AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS TO ANYBODY OUT THERE.

UM, THOSE REQUIRE MAINTENANCE, UH, CONTRACT AGREEMENTS.

AND I KNOW THAT THE MORE WE GET ONLINE, THE MORE, UM, OVERSIGHT THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE OVER THEM.

AND I JUST WAS CURIOUS HOW THAT WAS PLAYING OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIPS, THEY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS AND THAT DOES AN ONGOING SERVICE CONTRACT AND IT REQUIRES ELECTRICITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO OPERATE THE FANS AND SUCH TO REDUCE THE, THE NITROGEN IN OUR, SO OUR O AND M COMPLIANCE RATE IN HARTFORD COUNTY IS, IS, IS FAIRLY GOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE MINIMUM IS 80% FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

IT'S LIKE A SIDE GRANT THAT THAT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH GETS FOR OVERSEEING THE O AND M OF THE BS.

SO WE'RE WELL ABOVE THE 80% COMPLIANCE RATIO OR THE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT OVERALL.

O AND M IS OKAY, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

PEOPLE BUY PROPERTIES ALL THE TIME AND AREN'T AWARE OF WHAT THEY'RE BUYING AND THEN THEY GET A LETTER FROM SOMEBODY IN MY OFFICE SAYING, YOU'RE PAST DUE ON YOUR ON AND M AND YOU KNOW, THE ON AND M IS A COST, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU MAINTAIN THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, WELL IF YOU MAINTAIN THE B A T, IT'S A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE THAN HAVING YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEM FAIL.

MR. WAGNER, JUST WANNA WELCOME DR.

SEBE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT WE'RE HEARING ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, THAT YOU'VE BEEN A GOOD FIT SO FAR AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION OR TWO BEFORE I LEAVE OFFICE IN DECEMBER.

MARCY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I'M SURE WE'LL BE TALKING AGAIN SOON AND THANK ALL OF YOU AGAIN.

THIS WILL CONCLUDE, UH, THE BOARD OF HEALTH UPDATE, BUT ALSO, UH, AS A PIECE OF BOARD OF HEALTH, UH, BUSINESS.

UH, WE HAVE BOARD OF HEALTH APPOINTMENT, OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH COURSE SERVICE AGENCY OF HARFORD COUNTY.

UH, MR. WAGNER, I WOULD MOVE FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF CHRISTINE ALTON AND NAOMI FABRICANT TO, UM, THE OFFICE ON MENTAL HEALTH, UH, COURSE SERVICE AGENCY.

THANK YOU MR. BUILA.

IT'S MOVED IN SECOND TO APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF CHRISTINA ALTON AND NEW APPOINTMENT OF NAOMI FABRICANT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MS. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

THE ORDER ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ZONING APPEAL, CASE NUMBER 59 68.

MR. WOOD? AYE.

MR. JANNO? AYE.

MR. SRO, MR. WAG? AYE.

MR. BU AYE.

THERE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMED AND ZERO AND NEGATIVE? THE APPOINTMENTS ARE HERE BY APPROVED.

LIKE WHAT? WHO DID? THANK YOU.

NO.

OH, I THOUGHT YOU DID.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU DID.

YEAH.

HMM, GENTLEMEN.

UM, ARE WE READY TO GO AHEAD AND START? MM, CHAIR CALLS

[ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ]

UH, JOHN AND HAZELWOOD THERE, MS. MR. DOLA,

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MS. BRAG, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SIT THE BACK? UM, NO.

YOU, YOU SIT, YOU'LL BE SITTING AT THIS TABLE.

WE'LL NEED ONE OF THOSE SEATS FOR MS. BRAG.

THE, UH, FOUND THAT THE ADARE PROPERTY WAS NOT UNIQUE AND QUOTE FOUND THAT IT WAS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE SURROUNDING PARCELS.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, EACH OF YOU WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT, UH, YOUR CASE AND, UH, YOU MAY WANNA SAVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL AND MR. LAW, I'LL START WITH YOU.

YOU WANT ME TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH? UM, WE'LL JUMP RIGHT IN.

IT'S WELL ESTABLISHED BY THE MARILYN APPELL COURSE AND THE Z LAW COMMENT, UH, COMMENTATORS AND ALSO THE HEARING, I'M SORRY, TALKING, YOU NEED TALKING IN THE MICROPHONE.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU'LL LET ME KNOW IF IT PICKS IT UP.

THE MARYLAND COURTS, THE ZONING LAW COMMENTATORS AND OUR OWN HEARING EXAMINER IN THIS BOARD HAVE PREVIOUSLY FOUND THAT QUOTE, VARIANCES CAN ONLY BE GRANTED UPON A SHOWING OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THE PROPERTY AND RESULTING HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY.

OUR HEARING EXAMINER ECHOED THIS FINDING ON PAGE FOUR OF HIS DECISION.

HE ALSO REVIEWED THE VARIOUS APPELLATE CASES, SO I WILL NOT BELABOR THEM THIS EVENING.

THE APPLICANTS JOHN AND HAZEL ADA REPRESENTED THEMSELVES AT THE PREPARATION AND FILING OF THE APPLICATION BEFORE THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND WHEN THEY APPEAR BEFORE THE HEARING EXAMINER TONIGHT, I WILL DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT THEIR APPEAL TO YOU.

THE ADA'S REPRE, UH, REQUESTED APPROVAL TO CREATE THREE LOTS ON THE TWO NON-CONFORMING PARCELS THAT THEY HAD ACQUIRED IN 2021.

TONIGHT, I WILL ASK YOU TO, TO CONSIDER TWO THINGS.

THE FIRST IS STRICTLY A PROCEDURAL ISSUE, WHETHER A DECISION ISSUED OUTSIDE THE TIMEFRAME MANDATED IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, SPECIFICALLY SECTION A 2 74 DASH FOUR C, WHICH REQUIRES WITHOUT EXCEPTION THAT A DECISION BE ISSUED BY THE HEARING EXAMINER WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE HEARING DATE.

AND IN THE EVENT THAT SUCH A DECISION IS NOT ISSUED, THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS? WHERE IS THE JURISDICTION? DOES THE CASE GO BACK TO THE HEARING EXAMINER FOR RECONSIDERATION OR DOES IT BECOME A MOOT DECISION? THE SECOND ISSUE IS MORE FACTUALLY BASED, WHETHER THE FINDINGS OF FACT MADE IN THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION ARE SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT HIS FINDINGS THAT THE ADARE PROPERTY WAS NOT UNIQUE AND THAT THEREFORE THE APPLICATION OF THE CODE THAT REQUIRES PANHANDLES FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY EVEN WHERE THAT PROPERTY HAS SUFFICIENT WITH FOR THOSE PANHANDLES TO MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH KN ROAD, BUT IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO PROVIDE THE ENTIRE 12.5 FEET THROUGH THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE PANHANDLE DID NOT WORK A HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY FOR THE PROPERTY.

I'M ASKING YOU TO REVIEW THE HEARING EXAMINER DECISION BECAUSE YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE VESTED WITH THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT A VARIANCE TO PERMIT A PANHANDLE OF LESS THAN THE WIDTH REQUEST REQUESTED, PARDON ME, REQUIRED UNDER SECTION 2 67 22 F FIVE B I E 12.5 FEET.

IF YOU FIND THAT BOTH PRONGS OF THE VARIANT STANDARD IS MET THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESS, THE APPLICATION AND PREPARED A STAFF REPORT RECOMMENDING THAT THE VARIANCE BE APPROVED.

THE STAFF REPORT FOUND THAT THE QUOTE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS UNIQUE.

THE PROPERTY IS IN A REGULARLY SHAPE, LOT WITH LIMITED STREET FRONTAGE ON KN ROAD AND THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY ACCESSED BY A RIGHT OF WAY FURTHER WEST ON KNOP ROAD.

IN FACT, THE ADDRESSING REFERRING TO THE STREET ADDRESS ASSIGNED FOR THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS BASED OFF THE RIGHT OF WAY LOCATION, NOT AT THE AREA WHERE THERE WAS ROAD FRONTAGE.

THE HEARING EXAMINER, HOWEVER, DID NOT FIND UNIQUENESS.

I CONTEND TO YOU THAT THERE WERE ERRORS IN THAT FINDING ON PAGES 1, 3, 4, AND FIVE OF THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION, THE ADA PROPERTY WAS REFERRED TO AS A SINGLE PARCEL THAT'S ERRONEOUS AS IS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE ADAS APPLICATION AND THAT YOU'LL FIND AN EXHIBIT D OF THE APPEAL BRIEF SUBMITTED TO YOU.

UH, AND ALSO YOU WILL FIND IT REFERENCED IN EXHIBIT I, WHICH IS THE TITLE DEED FOR THE ADAS.

THE ADAIR PROPERTY IS IN FACT COMPOSED OF TWO SEPARATELY DEEDED PARCELS AND DESCRIBE PARCELS.

THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN COMBINED BY A DEED OF CONSOLIDATION OR PLAT ALL REFERENCES TO THE ADARE PROPERTY IN THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION, INCLUDING THE STATEMENTS THAT PROCEED, THE HEARING EXAMINER'S FINDING THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT UNIQUE INCORRECTLY CATEGORIZE THE PROPERTY AS BEING A SINGLE PARCEL OF LAND.

AND ON PAGE FIVE OF THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION, THE HEARING EXAMINER FOUND THAT THE BASIS FOR FINDING THAT THE PROPERTY WAS NOT UNIQUE, UH, AND PARDON ME, FOUND THAT

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END QUOTE.

I WILL SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE ADARE PARCELS FROM THE DATE OF THEIR CREATION TO TONIGHT'S HEARING ARE UNIQUE IN THE EVENT OF THEIR CREATION, THEIR ROAD ACCESS, ET CETERA.

THE ADARE PROPERTY IS IN FACT COMPOSED OF TWO SEPARATELY DEEDED PARCELS NOT CREATED BY THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS THROUGH A RECORD PLAT.

BOTH PARCELS ARE NON-CONFORMING AND WERE CREATED BY A SURVEYOR'S DESCRIPTION.

MUCH LIKE THE EXAMPLES THAT MR. SCHS UH, DISCUSSED DURING, UH, THE RECENT DISCUSSION WITH WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UM, THE LARGER PARCEL WAS ORIGINALLY DESCRIBED AS CONTAINED 32 ACRES.

IT WAS CREATED IN 1918 AND SINCE 1906 HAS BEEN SERVED BY A 12 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT, CURRENTLY PASSING THROUGH THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE BRAGS WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING.

THE 12 FOOT RIGHT AWAY WAS MOST RECENTLY DOCUMENTED IN A PLA RECORDED IN 2012 BY HIGHLAND SURVEY ASSOCIATES AND RECORDED IN THE LAND RECORDS, YOU'LL SEE THAT AS EXHIBIT H IN THE SUBMITTAL.

THE SECOND PARCEL OWNED BY THE ADAS IS ALSO UNIQUE.

IT CONTAINS 0.05 ACRES.

THAT PARCEL, UNLIKE THE LARGER PARCEL, HAS DIRECT FRONTAGE ON THE KN ROAD.

IN FACT, THE THIRD, UH, THE OH 35 PARCEL BINDS DIRECTLY ON THE LARGER PARCEL AND IS LOCATED AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE 12 FOOT RIGHT AWAY THAT I JUST REFERRED TO.

EACH PARCEL IS SEPARATELY DESCRIBED BY ITS OWN MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTIONS.

HOWEVER, BOTH PARCELS ARE DESCRIBED AS IF THEY ARE A SINGLE PARCEL IN THE UH, STATE DEPARTMENT OF ASSESSMENTS AND TAXATION RECORDS.

THEY ARE REFERENCED AS 31.035 ACRES 1416 KN ROAD NORTH OF ROCKS.

THE TAX MAP MAKES THE SAME ERROR AND IS NOTED AS SUCH IN THE HEARING EXAMINER'S FINDINGS, UH, THE TAX MAP, WHICH YOU WILL SEE AS ATTACHMENTS TO FOUR AND SEVEN OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS BEFORE THE HEARING EXAMINER, UH, ALL DESCRIBES THE ADARE PROPERTY AS IF IT IS A SINGLE PARCEL.

THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ADARE PROPERTY AS A SINGLE PARCEL IN BOTH THE STAFF REPORT AND THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION IS SIMPLY ERRONEOUS AS INDICATED BY BOTH THE SITE PLANS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION AND THE DEED ALSO SUBMITTED IN WITH THE APPLICATION.

AND IN YOUR PACKETS THIS EVENING, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE SPECIFIC TREATMENT OF THE ADARE PROPERTIES, A SINGLE PARCEL IS AN ERROR IN FACT, AND IT'S AN ERROR THAT APPEARS IN THE TAX RECORDS AND TAX MAPS ON WHICH BOTH THE DEPARTMENT AND THE HEARING EXAMINER RELIED.

IT MAY BE THAT THAT ERROR WAS ERRONEOUSLY RELIED ON IN MAKING THE DECISION.

NOW THE, UH, SITE PLAN SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE STAFF REPORT AND ALSO PART OF THE ADA'S ORIGINAL APPLICATION SHOWS THAT THE INTENTION IS THAT THE ADAS WOULD COMBINE THOSE TWO PARCELS AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, THEREBY PROVIDING ROAD FRONTAGE TO THE LARGER PARCEL.

IN FACT, THAT SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWS THAT AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE WHAT IS NOW THE SMALLER PARCEL AND KN ROAD, THERE IS SUFFICIENT FRONTAGE TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE CODE WITH NO VARIANCE NEEDED.

THE SOLE REASON FOR THE VARIANCE IS THAT AS YOU PROCEED UP, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD OR NORTH UP THE SMALLER PARCEL TO INTERSECT WITH THE LARGER ADARE PARCEL, THERE IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A CHOKE POINT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS A NARROWING OF THE SMALLER PARCEL THAT THEN CAUSES THE WIDTH OF THE PANHANDLES TO BE LESS THAN THE REQUIRED 12.5 FEET UP THEIR ENTIRE WIDTH.

THAT'S THE SOLE PROBLEM THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO BE SUBDIVIDED.

IT HAS THREE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, IT HAS FRONTAGE IF THE TWO PARCELS ARE COMBINED ONTO KNOP ROAD, THE AREA OF THE NARROW WIDTH WOULD IN FACT BE COMPLETELY CONTAINED WITHIN A COMMON DRIVE AGREEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.

IT MAY HAVE IN FACT BEEN MORE PRACTICAL FOR THE ADAIRS TO HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION WITH TWO STANDARD WIDTH PANHANDLES AND A SINGLE REQUEST FOR A SINGLE VARIANCE FOR ONE PANHANDLE LESS THAN THE 12.5 REQUIRED FEET.

HOWEVER, BASED ON THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR THREE SEPARATE PANHANDLES, NONE OF WHICH MEETING THE FULL 12.5 FEET THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE LENGTH.

BASED ON THE UNIQUENESS I FEEL OF THE TWO PARCELS, ONE PARCEL CREATED AGAIN IN 1918 WITH NO NO ROAD FRONTAGE WHATSOEVER ON KN ROAD EXCEPT THROUGH AN EXISTING 12 FOOT RIGHT OF AWAY THAT WAS REFERRED TO IN A 1906 AND A SEPARATE PARCEL, WHICH IS TOO SMALL TO BE USED AS A HOME SITE, BUT IS LAID OUT IN A MANNER AND WAS CONVEYED IN A MANNER TO THE ADAIR PARCEL, UH, FOR OBVIOUS USE AS A RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION.

BOTH PARCELS STANDING ON THEIR OWN ARE CERTAINLY UNIQUE AND COMBINED TOGETHER, THEY STILL PRESENT A, A UNIQUE PARCEL

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IN THAT, VERY MUCH LIKE A PROPERTY CALLED THE HUGHES PROPERTY COMING OFF OF COPENHAVER ROAD, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF A VARIANCE, ASKING FOR THE EXACT SAME VARIANCE THAT IS A PANHANDLE THAT AT A CERTAIN POINT IN ITS LENGTH WENT DOWN TO A CHOKE POINT OF LESS THAN 12.5 FEET.

THAT WOULD BE BOARD OF APPEALS CASE 59 28 WHERE THE VARIANCE WAS APPROVED SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF MEETING HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SEPTIC RESERVE, ET CETERA.

THE PARALLELS BETWEEN BOARD OF APPEALS CASE 59 28, THE HUGHES PROPERTY AND THIS CASE ARE STRIKING IN EACH CASE THE PARCEL OR GENERALLY RECTANGULAR IN SIZE WERE CREATED BY MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION AND NOT BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.

AND WERE SERVED BY A PANHANDLE AREA CREATED BEFORE THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS WERE IN EFFECT.

AGAIN, REFERRING TO MR. SCH ROAD'S ORIGINAL, UH, COMMENTS DURING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION, THESE ARE NOT LOTS THAT WERE REGULATED BY STATUTE.

THEY WERE CREATED IN ONE CASE OVER A CENTURY AGO, JUST AS IN THE HUGHES CASE, A CASE AGAIN WHERE A VARIANCE WAS GRANTED.

AS WITH THE CONDITION BEING THAT AT THE INTERSECTION WITH THE PUBLIC ROAD, IN THAT CASE COPENHAVER ROAD, IN THIS CASE NOT ROAD, THAT THE RIGHT OF WAYS WOULD BE ABLE TO MEET CODE STANDARDS THAT IS EACH RIGHT OF WAY BEING 12.5 FEET IN WIDTH, WHICH CAN BE DONE WITH THE ADARE PROPERTY.

SUBDIVISION APPROVAL COULD BE GRANTED IF THE BOARD OF APPEALS FILES A REASONING LAID OUT IN HUGHES.

IT WOULD IN FACT FIND THAT THE ADARE PROPERTY IS UNIQUE AND THAT THE REQUEST TO PERMIT A PROPERTY TO SUBDIVIDE PANHANDLES WITH SUFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THAT CAN MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE ROADWAY AND WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A COMMON DRIVE SHOULD BE GRANTED.

AND THAT THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION WAS AN ERROR PERHAPS BASED ON THE REPRESENTATIONS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF THIS PARCEL BEING A SINGLE PARCEL.

I CAN'T SAY I'M NOT MR. CAHO.

NOW, IF YOU'RE STILL WITH ME, I'LL BRIEFLY JUMP INTO THE PROCEDURAL ISSUE, WHICH IS FAR DRIER PURSUANT TO SECTION A 2 74 DASH FOUR C OF THE PROCEDURAL RULES.

YOU GENTLEMEN KNOW THESE RULES BETTER THAN I THE HEARING EXAMINER SHALL A MANDATORY SHALL FILE A WRITTEN DECISION WITHIN 30 CALENDAR DAYS AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF A HEARING UNLESS THERE IS A REQUEST FOR BRIEFING ADDITIONAL BRIEFS OR SUBMISSIONS WITH WHICH THERE WERE NOT.

IN THIS CASE, THE HEARING HEARINGS DOWN ARE IN THIS CASE DID NOT.

THE DECISION ACTUALLY CAME OUT ON FRIDAY.

UH, IF IT HAD BEEN TIMELY, IT WOULD'VE BEEN ISSUED FRIDAY, AUGUST 12TH.

IT WAS NOT ISSUED UNTIL THE FOLLOWING MONDAY.

UM, I WOULD CONCEDE THAT IF IT WAS DUE ON A WEEKEND FILING MONDAY WOULD BE CORRECT, BUT IN THIS CASE, FRIDAY WAS NOT A HOLIDAY OR A COURT HOLIDAY.

WE WERE ALL IN SESSION.

IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THESE MARI THESE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT ARE BEFORE YOU THAT WERE ALL GOVERNED BY, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A TOUGH SANCTION IF AN APPLICANT MISSES A FILING DEADLINE, IF AN APPLICANT FAILS TO FILE ON TIME, IF AN APPLICANT FAILS TO UH, FILE ITS REQUEST FOR A TRANSCRIPT ON TIME.

IF YOU AS THE BOARD DO NOT FILE YOUR DECISION IN TIME, ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE SPECIFIC SANCTIONS.

THE SOLE AREA OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT IS SILENT AS TO WHAT OCCURS IF A MANDATORY TIMEFRAME IS NOT MET IS THE ONE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE, THE DECISION THAT STARTS THE APPEAL PROCESS IS NOT FILED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MANDATORY TIMEFRAMES? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER THAT DEPENDS ON YOU.

IN EVERY OTHER CASE, THE APPLICANT LOSES THEIR RIGHT TO APPEAL OR IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS BOARD WOULD NOT RENDER ITS DECISION, WHICH IS INCONCEIVABLE BEFORE THE DATE THAT'S IN THE, IN THE HEARING EXAMINER'S, UH, TIMEFRAME, WHICH IS NOT UNTIL JANUARY.

AT THAT POINT, THE WHO WOULD LOSE THE APPELLATES WOULD LOSE BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION STANDS.

SO IN EVERY CASE ALONG THE WAY IN THE MAR IN THE UH, RULES OF PROCEDURE, THE APPLICANTS ARE HELD TO A STANDARD IN A SANCTION.

AND IN EACH CASE THERE IS THE WORD MANDATORY.

SHALL THE DECISION SHALL ISSUE, THE APPELLATE SHALL FILE, THE TRANSCRIPT SHALL BE REQUESTED, THE BOARD OF APPEALS SHALL RULE.

WE HAVE THE FOUR OF US A SITUATION THAT PERSONALLY I IN CHECKING THE BOARD OF APPEALS CASES, I'VE NEVER SEEN RAISED BEFORE YOU BEFORE.

NOT THIS BOARD, NOT ANY OTHER BOARD.

UH, AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS DOESN'T INFER IN A TIMELY MANNER.

I LEAVE THAT TO YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.

THE BOARD CAN EITHER ACCEPT, REJECT, OR MODIFY THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION OR REMAND THE CASE TO THE HEARING EXAMINER.

IF THE CASE IS REMANDED, YOU AS THE BOARD WILL SPECIFICALLY STATE THE SUBJECTS IN WHICH THE HEARING EXAMINER IS TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE.

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I'M READING TO YOU FROM, FROM THE, UH, RULES OF PROCEDURE SECTION E I WOULD URGE YOU TONIGHT TO LOOK AT AND I HAVE A COPY OF IT IS NOT IN, IN THE RECORD OF THE HUGHES DECISION CASE 59 28.

AND IF YOU LOOK EITHER AT THE SITE PLAN OR AT THE DISCUSSION, YOU'LL BE STRUCK BY THE DIFFERENCES, PARDON ME BY THE SIMILARITIES, UH, BETWEEN THE ADAIR REG, UH, RECTANGULAR SHAPE PORTION AND THE HUE RECTANGULAR SHAPE PARCEL.

YOU MAY ALSO BE STRUCK WITH THE FACT THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE POINT AT WHICH THE PANHANDLE AREA OR THE AREA TO BE USED IS SPLIT INTO PANHANDLES IS NARROW.

IT'S NOT AT THE ROAD FRONTAGE IN EITHER THIS DECISION OR IN THE ADARE PROPERTY.

AND I WOULD URGE YOU THEREFORE TO GRANT THE VARIANCE OR IF YOU FEEL THAT THE DECISION, UH, A IS BASED ON AN ERROR CAUSED BY A MISTAKE IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS WHERE THE TAX MAP SHOWED THE PROPERTY AS A SINGLE PARCEL, PERHAPS IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO REMAND THE CASE TO THE HEARING EXAMINER SO THAT ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE REGARDING THESE PARCELS MAY BE ABLE TO BE SUBMITTED.

I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU, MS. DELAU.

YOU'LL HAVE A MINUTE AND 52 SECONDS FOR REBUTTAL.

THANK YOU MS. BRAG.

THANK YOU COUNSEL MEMBERS.

UM, I'LL ADDRESS THE PROCEDURAL QUESTION FIRST.

AND SHE IS CORRECT.

THERE IS NO PROCEDURE AS TO WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE DOESN'T, IF MR. CAHO OR ANY OTHER HEARING EXAMINER DOESN'T GET THEIR BRIEF IN WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.

BUT I WOULD POSE TO YOU THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DEALT WITH ON THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE.

THAT THERE IS A GAP THAT WE SHOULD NOT IMPOSE ON THE HEARING AID AND WE WOULD NOT, SHOULD NOT IMPOSE ON YOU TODAY.

IT SHOULD BE LEGISLATIVELY WRITTEN IN AS TO WHAT HAPPENS.

AND I WAS CURIOUS MYSELF IF THIS HAD HAPPENED BEFORE WHERE A HEARING DECISION WASN'T PUT IN WITHIN 30 DAYS.

IT HAPPENS A LOT.

I JUST WENT THROUGH A FEW OF 'EM.

5 9 66, 5 9 63 5 9 62 AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON WHERE IT WASN'T WITHIN 30 DAYS.

SOMETIMES IT WAS ONE DAY, TWO DAYS, SOMETIMES IT WAS THREE WEEKS.

NOW I'VE, AGAIN, I'VE NOT, AS COUNSEL SAID, WE'VE NOT HEARD OF THIS ISSUE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD, BUT IF YOU DECIDE TO SEND IT, YOU HAVE TO SEND IT BACK BECAUSE IT WASN'T WITHIN THE 30 DAYS.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH ALL THE LISTS AND SEND THEM ALL BACK AND SAY THIS WASN'T DONE WITHIN 30 DAYS.

THAT SETS A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THIS WORK AND ALL THIS MONEY HAVING TO BE SPENT AGAIN FOR ISSUES THAT WERE SETTLED AND NOT APPEALED BY OTHER PARTIES.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT WHILE IT WASN'T WITHIN THE 30 DAYS, IT SHOULD BE DRESSED LEGISLATIVELY GOING FORWARD.

THIS IS THE RULE, THIS IS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE QUITE THE CASELOAD COMING BACK AT YOU AND AT MR. CAHO AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HEARS THESE CASES.

UH, IF YOU WANT MORE WORK, I MEAN THERE'S PLENTY TO DO, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS BE DEALT WITH IN A DIFFERENT MATTER.

NOW, THE HEART OF THIS MATTER, THE SIZE OF PROCEDURAL IS THE VARIANCE.

AND NOW THERE IS WIDE LATITUDE IN WHETHER TO GRANT OR NOT GRANT A VARIANCE.

IT'S A MAY NOT A SHALL.

YOU HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND IT'S A VARIANCE UNDER THE TORONTO VERSUS NORTH, WHICH IS 1 23 MARYLAND APPELLATE 2 34 19 98.

A VARIANCE IS PRESUMED TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE ORDINANCE AND THE APPLICANT.

THE ADAS WOULD BEAR THE BURDEN TO OVERCOME THIS PRESUMPTION.

AND IT'S A HIGH BURDEN.

NOW UNDER HARTFORD COUNTY CODE, THE 2 67 DASH 11 A VARIANCE MAY BE GRANTED.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT, IT'S A REQUEST.

IT'S TO TRY AND MEET THAT BURDEN TO TRY AND OVERCOME THAT PRESUMPTION.

NOW UNDER CROMWELL VERSUS WARD 1 0 2, MARYLAND APPELLATE 6 91 19 95 CASE, I BELIEVE YOU ONLY GRANT VARIANCES SPARINGLY AND ONLY UNDER EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

THE LAW IS THE LAW FOR A PANHANDLE.

IT IS 12 AND A HALF FEET.

THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY WRITTEN IN.

IT HASN'T BEEN CHANGED FOR YEARS.

WHY MESS WITH WHAT WORKS.

THAT'S WHY THE BURDEN IS THERE FOR ANY APPELLANT, ANY APPLICANT LIKE THE ADAIRS WHO WANT TO OVERCOME THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PINCH POINT.

NOW, I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE IDEA PROPERTY HAS THREE BUILDING RIGHTS.

AND IT WAS POINTED OUT AT THE HEARING, AND I'LL POINT IT OUT AGAIN TODAY, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD TWO, THEY JUST WANT THE THIRD.

SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF OF PROPERTY BEING COMPLETELY UNUSABLE, IT'S COMPLETELY USABLE AS IT IS AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME FARM OR AS A, AS SPLIT INTO TWO PIECES.

SO THE FIRST STEP THOUGH, IN THIS PROCESS AND WHERE MR. CAHO STRUCK THEM DOWN ESSENTIALLY WAS IS THE PROPERTY UNIQUE? AND MUCH HAS BEEN POINTED OUT THAT THERE ARE, I WANTED TO TAKE THE ARGUMENT FOR THE OTHER SIDE TO BE IS THAT THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PIECES.

YOU HAVE ONE LARGE TRIANGLE OF ABOUT 30 ACRES,

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AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS TEENY TINY LITTLE PART THAT GETS THEM TO KNOP ROAD.

NOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR APPLICATION, THE INITIAL APPLICATION, PAGE TWO, THEIR PROPERTY IS UNIQUE AND IT HAS THREE BUILDING RIGHTS, LIMITED FRONTAGE, AND THEN PAGE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT PAGE IT IS, BUT IT'S WHERE THEY HAVE THE RENDERING OF THEIR DRAWING PARTIAL TWO 30 ACRES AND CHANGE PARCEL ONE, THE 0.035.

SO THEY KNOW, AND I MENTIONED IN THEIR APPLICATION THAT THERE WERE TWO.

IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED IN THE HEARING BOARD THAT THERE ARE TWO, TWO PARCELS, PAGE FIVE LINES 12 THROUGH 17.

MR. ADA, THERE'S TWO PARCELS THAT ACTUALLY MAKE UP OR ARE CONSIDERED THE SUBJECT PARCEL.

THERE WAS A LARGER 30 ACRE PARCEL THAT I THINK AROUND A HALF ACRE PARCEL TO GET THAT ROAD FRONTAGE TO CANOP.

NOW THAT'S ALL THAT WAS SAID IN THE APPLICATION AND DURING THE HEARING EXAMINATION AS TO THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND WHEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY BY MR. CAHO ON PAGE SEVEN, I HAVE READ YOUR FILE.

IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND YOU CAN GIVE ME? NO, HE ASKED MRS. ADA ON THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE EIGHT, IF SHE HAD ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

NO.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING HERE AT AN APPEAL, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN APPEAL ON THE RECORD, WHAT WAS IN THE RECORD, THEIR APPLICATIONS, THE STAFF REPORTS THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE HEARING, AND THEN MR. CA HO'S REPORT ITSELF THE DECISION.

SO WHAT UNIQUENESS IS THERE? WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES, BUT THEY'RE BEING COMBINED ESSENTIALLY WHETHER OR NOT FORMALLY IN LAND RECORDS.

THEY ARE FOR ALL INTENSIVE PURPOSES BEING COMBINED TO ALLOW THIS ACCESS FROM KNOP ROAD UP TO THE PROPERTIES.

SO THAT'S WHERE THEY STOPPED.

THERE WAS NO OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, TOPOGRAPHY, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS GOING ON.

IT WAS REALLY, OH, WELL, WE HAVE A PINCH POINT AND WE NEED TO GET, WE WANNA GET THREE DRIVEWAYS UP WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE.

THAT WAS IT.

THAT WAS THE END OF THE UNIQUENESS, AND THAT'S WHERE IT WAS STRUCK DOWN.

AND I WILL NOTE THAT MR. CAHO LOOKED AT EVERYTHING.

HE LOOKED AT OVERVIEWS, HE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE FILE AND HIS EXPERIENCE, IT WASN'T UNIQUE.

NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TOO, THAT THE CASE THAT, UM, OPPOSING COUNSEL WAS REFERENCING 5 9 28 SAYING, THIS IS THE PRECEDENT THAT YOU ALL FOLLOW.

SO THIS WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS ABOUT 71 ACRES.

AND ON IT, INTERESTINGLY, THERE WAS THE MAIN HOUSE AND THEN TWO OR THREE OTHER TENANT HOUSES WHERE PEOPLE LIVED IN THEM.

AND THEY WERE THERE.

THEY WERE ALL PART OF ONE PROPERTY.

SO WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO IN THIS CASE FOR MY READING, IS TAKE ONE OF THOSE PLACES, THE HOUSES, CARVE IT OUT AND SELL IT TO THE TENANT WHO LIVED THERE.

YOU KNOW, WHY PAY RENT, JUST OWN IT.

BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS THIS HOUSE WAS TO PUT A DRIVEWAY IN AT THE SAME POINT AS THE MAIN DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OF THE TOPOGRAPHICAL ISSUES.

BECAUSE IT WAS IN A, UM, WATER AREA.

IT WAS OFF MARYLAND 5 43.

THERE WERE MANY OTHER ISSUES WITH IT, AND THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD DO IT.

AND THEY NEEDED A VARIANCE TO GET THERE.

SO THERE IT SHOWS YOU THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS IT IS THERE.

THE HOUSE AND THE TENANT WERE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.

SO IT'S BASICALLY ROBERT STAMPING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN THERE AND SAYING, OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY AND YOU CAN OWN THE PROPERTY YOU'VE BEEN RENTING FOR GOODNESS KNOWS HOW LONG.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

WHAT WE HAVE IS A SITUATION WHERE THE ADAS BOUGHT A PROPERTY, THEY WANNA SUBDIVIDE IT INTO THREE LOTS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY OPPOSITION AT THE HEARING, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TRANSCRIPT, A LOT OF OPPOSITION FOR VARIOUS REASONS ABOUT THIS.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE SAME CASE.

THERE'S DIFFERENCES THAT I THINK IS A REASON YOU SHOULD NOT USE 5 9 28 AND SAY, OH, WELL, WE'RE JUST GONNA DO THIS.

THIS MAKES SENSE.

WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THIS BLUEPRINT.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BLUEPRINT.

IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

AND YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACTS OF THIS CASE.

IT'S NOT A UNIQUE PROPERTY.

THE ADAS MAY WISH IT IS, BUT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD THAT THEY PUT IN BESIDES THE FACT THAT IT HAS THAT LITTLE STRIP OF LAND THAT ATTACHES TO THE MAIN PART.

AND THEY ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF PUTTING IN TWO P TWO PROPERTIES, TWO HOUSES DOING THAT.

THE FACT THAT THEY JUST CAN'T GET A THIRD, I DON'T THINK IS ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THE BURDEN THAT THEY HAVE.

AND IT'S THEIR BURDEN TO DO.

AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DENY THEIR APPEAL AND UPHOLD MR. CAO'S DECISION.

THANK YOU, MR. BRAG.

YOU'LL HAVE SEVEN MINUTES IN 44 SECONDS IF YOU NEED IT,

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MR. D LAW.

UH, OKAY.

VERY QUICKLY.

UM, ACTUALLY, MS. BRAG HAS, HAS HIGHLIGHTED ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES HERE.

THE APPLICATION MAKES IT VERY CLEAR.

THE SITE PLAN MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THERE ARE TWO PARCELS, BUT YET THE HEARING, HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION NEVER ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IT CONSISTENTLY AT ALL POINTS REFERENCING THE PARCEL AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT FINDS WHETHER THE PARCEL IS UNIQUE OR NOT, REFERS TO IT AS A SINGLE PARCEL, NOT AT ONE POINT.

ARE THERE, IS, IS THERE AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THERE ARE TWO PARCELS? THE REFERENCES IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE OVERVIEW MAPS, AS MS. BRAGG POINTED OUT, SHOW IT AS A SINGLE PARCEL.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE APPLICANTS FAILED TO, TO FILE THAT THEY HAD TWO PARCELS.

THE APPLICANTS CERTAINLY KNEW THERE WERE TWO PARCELS.

THEY SAID IT IN THEIR APPLICATION, THEY SHOWED IT ON THEIR SITE PLAN, BUT YET THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION TREATS THE PROPERTY NOT AS UNIQUE, BUT AS A SINGLE PARCEL.

AND REGARDING PARCEL, UH, OR DECISION 59 28, I'M PARTICULARLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE AS I ARGUED IT.

UM, THE PROPERTY, THE PINCH POINT AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PINCH POINTS IN THE COPENHAVER ROAD PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY IS 2.3 BEEPED.

SO AGAIN, AT THE AREA WHERE THE INTERSECTION AND THE SUBDIVISION REGS REQUIRE THAT A PROPERTY HAS SUFFICIENT ROAD FRONTAGE, THE ADAIR PROPERTY QUALIFIES THE COPENHAVER ROAD PROPERTY QUALIFIED ALSO AND HAD A SINGLE PINCH POINT FAR UP AWAY FROM THE ROADWAY.

AND IN THAT CASE, THE HEARING EXAMINER AGREED THAT THE PROPERTY WAS UNIQUE.

BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES, COPENHAVER ROAD AND KN ROAD, WERE CREATED BY SURVEYOR'S DESCRIPTION LONG BEFORE ANY OF US THOUGHT ABOUT 12.5 FEET.

THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT HAS EXISTED FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION.

THANK YOU, MS. TILLO.

MS. BRAG? YES.

I WOULD JUST BRIEFLY NOTE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR. CAHO WAS THINKING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE BASED IT ON.

IS IT THAT HE REALLY ONLY TRULY THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE PROPERTY OR WAS HE JUST LUMPING BOTH IN TOGETHER AS THE APPLICATION AND AS THE TESTIMONY OF MR. AND MS. DARE THAT THERE WERE TWO PIECES? I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS NOT REALLY A STRONG HOOK TO HANG YOUR HAT ON FOR AN ARGUMENT, AND THAT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ASK MR. CAHILL, BUT IT WAS CLEAR ON THE RECORD THAT HE KNEW THERE WERE TWO PIECES.

HE REFERRED TO THEM AS ONE, BUT THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE APPELLANTS HAVE MET THEIR BURDEN IN TRYING TO OVERTURN MR. CAO'S DECISION IN THIS RESPECT BY, WE'RE NOT SURE IF HE MET ONE OR TWO.

HE CLEARLY KNEW THERE WERE TWO, JUST FOR LACK OF REFERENCING.

I KNOW THERE ARE TWO IS NOT ENOUGH.

THANK YOU, MR. BRAG.

UM, COUNSEL, ANY, UM, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TESTIMONY? MR. SCH? UM, MR. CARNEY? UM, I DON'T RECALL CASE FIFTY NINE TWENTY EIGHT, THE HUGHES CASE ON COPENHAVER IN THE ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT.

NO, IT WAS, BUT, BUT, BUT IT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY VALID TO BE ABLE TO QUOTE THE PRIOR DECISION OF, OF THE EXHIBIT BOARDS.

I I WAS PROVIDED WITH THIS MR. UH, MR. LAW MADE HER ARGUMENT.

SO I CAN CERTAINLY SHARE.

IT SEEMS LIKE, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, MOST ALL OF OUR DECISIONS, IT GOES FROM WHAT IS IN THAT ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT.

AND I DID NOT RECALL, AND THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING OF THIS CASE, THAT I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WITH RESPECT.

UH, COUNCIL MORO, IT WAS REFERENCED IN THE MEMORANDUM THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE CASE, AND I WAS, I'M REFERENCING IT AS PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORITY.

, MUCH LIKE BOTH MS. BRAGG AND MYSELF HAVE REFERENCED MARILYN CASE LAW.

ANYONE ELSE? THIS WILL, UH, CONCLUDE THIS, UM, ZONING APPEAL HEARING, UH, FOR CASE NUMBER 59 68, AND WE WILL RENDER A DECISION AT A LATER TIME.

ORDER OF LEGISLATIVE SESSION DAY 22 DASH 0 26.

UM, MS. DIXON, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BRIEF RECESS.

WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE LOBBY.

I'D LIKE TO LET THEM GET IN.

IF, CAN YOU GET THE MIC FROM ME, PLEASE? THANK YOU.

GOOD

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

EVENING, CHAIR CALLS,

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UH, PLEASE JOIN US IN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE, UH, FOLLOWING THE, THE PRAYER BY MR. WAGNER, A I PLEDGE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH SPANS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN THE VISIBLE WITH DELIVERY AND JUSTICE.

FOR ALL OF ALL OUR DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING ELECTED LEADERS OF OUR GREAT COUNTY AND ASK THAT YOU BLESS OUR WORK OVER THESE PAST FOUR YEARS AND GUIDE THE WORK IN FUTURE YEARS.

MAY YOUR HAND BE UPON AND GUIDE THE INCOMING COUNCIL AND THE NEW ADMINISTRATION GIVE THEM UNDERSTANDING AND WISDOM TO IMPLEMENT INFORMED, PRUDENT AND LEGAL DECISIONS FOR ALL OUR CITIZENS.

AS THIS IS THE FINAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION OF THIS COUNCIL, LORD, WE PRAY YOU WATCH OVER MY FELLOW DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS.

AS THE NEXT CHAPTER UNFOLDS.

MAY YOU USE EACH OF THESE FINE INDIVIDUALS TALENTS TO YOUR GLORY AND SATISFACTION.

BE WITH ALL THOSE WHO HAVE GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING AND CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTY IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WAGNER.

COUNCIL, MAY I HAVE GENERAL CONSENT TO MOVE TO ITEM FIVE A THROUGH C ON THE AGENDA AND RETURN BACK TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR THEREAFTER.

SO MOVE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS, AND NOMINATION.

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]

HARTFORD LIVING TREASURER GENE UMBARGER.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MR. SROS? COUNSEL PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE GENE UMBARGER AS A HARTFORD LIVING TREASURER.

THANK YOU MR. JANER.

DANIEL, MOVE TO SECOND TO APPROVE MR. UMBARGER AS A HARVARD LIVING TREASURER.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MS. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

MR. WOODS, MR. JANNO? AYE.

MRR AYE.

MR. WAGNER? AYE.

MR. BOLA AYE.

THERE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRM OF ZEROING AND NEGATIVE.

THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. GENE UMBARGER IS HARTFORD LIVING TREASURER.

IS HARVARD LIVING TREASURES HEREBY APPROVED EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENTS COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES MAY HAVE A MOTION.

MR. JOHNSON, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL, UH, RIGHT TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES.

MR. DOULAS.

MOVE IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL.

I BELIEVE IT'S RATE, RATE, UM, TO THE COMMISSION OF DISABILITIES.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

THERE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE? ZERO IN A NEGATIVE.

THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED.

WE WILL NOW ACT AS A ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND MOVE BACK INTO LEGISLATIVE SESSION THEREAFTER, UH, DUE TO THE TIMING OF ZONING APPEAL, CASE NUMBER 59 68 JOHN AND HAZEL LADA, UH, THIS CASE WILL BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING ZONING APPEAL CASE NUMBER 59 68.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION MR. SHREDS? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO UPHOLD THE HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION AND ZONING BOARD OF A CASE BOARD OF APPEALS CASE 5 9 6 8.

YOU MAY HAVE A SECOND.

THANK YOU MR. WAGNER.

IT'S MOVEMENT.

SECOND TO UPHOLD THE DECISION OF RECOMMENDED BY THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS.

MR. WOODS? AYE.

MR. JANAN AYE.

MR. SROS? MR. WAGNER AYE.

MR. BUA AYE, YOU'RE BEING SIX VOTES IN INVERTIVE ONE ABSTENTION.

THE DECISION TO UPHOLD THE ZONING A HEARING EXAMINERS IS APPROVED.

[4. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS]

MR. SROS, WE STEP DOWN PLEASE.

MR. UMBARGER, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, PLEASE.

GENTLEMEN, MR. WAGNER, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

WHEREAS GENE UMBARGER RECEIVED THE HARTFORD COUNTY CULTURAL ARTS BOARD RECOMMENDATION TO THE HARFORD COUNTY COUNCIL FOR RECOGNITION AS A HARTFORD LIVING TREASURER.

AND WHEREAS GENE IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF HARTFORD COUNTY, HE AND HIS WIFE LOUISE HARLAN, HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR 60 YEARS.

THEY LIVE AT WOOLSEY FARM, WHICH WAS PURCHASED IN 1918 BY GENE'S GRANDFATHER.

AND WHEREAS GENE LED THE EAST HARTFORD FOUR H CLUB FOR 40 YEARS.

IN 2011, HE DANCED FOR THE MARYLAND CENTER FOR THE ARTS FUNDRAISER, DANCING WITH THE STARS.

GENE IS A DEACON OF THE CHURCHVILLE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WHERE

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HE HAS PERFORMED MANY DUTIES OVER THE YEARS, WHICH INCLUDED MOWING THE GRASS, MAINTAINING THE GRAVEYARD, AND SETTING UP THE PARISH HALL FOR EVENTS.

GENE SUPPORTS HIS FELLOW FARMERS AND CAN BE SEEN AT MANY COMMUNITY EVENTS ACROSS THIS COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS IN 1996, GENE WAS NAMED THE HARFORD COUNTY FARMER OF THE YEAR AND A MARYLAND HONORARY FARMER FOR HIS OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO MARYLAND AGRICULTURE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND COOPERATIVE EXTENSION SERVICE.

NOW, THEREFORE, WE THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND ON THIS 18TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2022, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM GENE UMBARGER, A HARTFORD LIVING TREASURER, AND BE IT FURTHER KNOWN THAT HIS LIFETIME EXPERIENCES AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE HARFORD COUNTY COMMUNITY WILL PROVIDE A PERMANENT RECORD, WHICH WILL RECALL THE PAST, INFORM THE PRESENT AND GUIDE THE FUTURE OF HARTFORD COUNTY, AND THAT HIS MEMORIES AND HISTORY WILL BE RECORDED BY THE HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY, ORAL HISTORIAN, AND WOULD BECOME PART OF THE ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION OF THE LIBRARY.

MY DAUGHTER KATE, AND, UH, HER, HER YOUNGEST, YOUNGEST DAUGHTER, AND OF COURSE, SON-IN-LAW, DAVID.

I COULDN'T LET MY LAST COUNCIL MEETING GO WITHOUT ONE MORE HAR LIVING TREASURE, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING I THINK WE DO THAT, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HARFORD COUNTY HISTORY AND GENE UMBARGER, LIKE MANY OF US OUT THERE, EVERYBODY KNOWS GENE.

WE WE LOVE HIM.

AND, UM, THERE'S NOT TOO MANY EVENTS OR AGRICULTURAL EVENTS OR CHURCH SUPPERS AND DINNERS THAT YOU GO TO THAT, UM, MR. UMBARGER ISN'T THERE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR OUR AG COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE YOUTH.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I WISH I WOULD'VE SEEN, UM, YOU'D DANCE, UM, FOR THE STAR WITH THE STARS.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT THING TO SEE, BUT I MISSED THAT.

UM, BUT I DID READ ONE LITTLE THING THAT YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT, AND IT WASN'T IN THE PROCLAMATION, BUT COULD YOU TELL ME ABOUT THIS, THIS, UM, UM, LITTLE DAM THAT YOU WENT WOULD GO SWIMMING IN? OH, .

WELL, IT WASN'T FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THIS BOAT .

WE WENT DOWN AND MILLSTREAM DOWN BY THE HOUSE, THE COLD BOYS, AND THERE WERE FOUR COLD BOYS AND FOUR ARMBARS.

AND, UH, WE HAD OUR OWN LITTLE SWIMMING POOL AND, UH, A LITTLE SANDY BEACH AND A ROCK TO LIE ON AFTER WE HAD THAT MILL RUN IS COLD.

WE GOT IN THERE AND WE'D GET OUT AFTER THAT AND LIE ON THIS ROCK AND DRY OFF.

AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T NEED BAEN SUIT CAUSE , THEY WERE ALL BOYS, BUT IT WAS A, IT WAS A PLACE TO GO AFTER, AFTER WE HAD UNLOADED A LOT OF HAY.

WE, WE USED TO HAVE LOTS OF YOUNG FOLKS WORK THERE AT THE FARM.

AND, UH, AND WE HAD GREAT TIMES WITH THEM.

WONDERFUL MEMORIES.

UH, ONE THING ABOUT GROWING OLD, YOU HAVE GREAT MEMORIES.

UH, THEY JUST PILE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND, UH, IT'S LOVE TO YOU LOVE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR STORIES.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE EMBELLISHED A LITTLE BIT , BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S A GREAT LIFE.

HARTFORD COUNTY IS JUST A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PLACE.

AND WHENEVER YOU GO AWAY, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT'S WONDERFUL TO GET BACK TO HARFORD COUNTY.

UH, REMEMBER GOING TO HIGH SCHOOL, WE, THERE WEREN'T, THEY WERE ALL FARMS WHEN WE, WHEN WE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL, NO, UH, HOUSES.

THERE WERE ABOUT 10 OR 12 MAIN FARM HOUSES ON THE WAY TO BEL AIR.

AND, UH, MY HOUSE CHANGED.

IT'S, UH, BUT PEOPLE LIKE HARFORD COUNTY AND THEY LIKE COMING HERE.

I, I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH SAID.

I HAVE A GREAT FAMILY TOO.

AND I, UH, IT JUST HAPPENED.

UH, TODAY, FOR INSTANCE, UH, MY WIFE GOES OVER TO JERSEY'S, OUR OLDEST GRANDDAUGHTERS.

SHE HAS A CABINET FOR BOOKS AND SHE'S OUT OF THIS BOOK.

SHE CAME CABINET, UH, LIBRARY THERE.

THIS LITTLE BOOK SAYS, KNOW WHEN TO SPEAK AND WHEN TO SHUT UP.

I THINK.

TOM, SHUT UP.

CAN I HAVE YOU THREE SCOOT AND A LITTLE CLOSER PLEASE.

THANK YOU, HONEY.

WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE, OH, I HAVE TO

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UH, AND OF COURSE, FARM WOULDN'T BE WORKING WITHOUT BE.

AND DON'T FORGET BELL .

WELL SEE BELL AND WORRY MY WIFE.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS GIRL, HIS WOMAN IS .

THIS REASON I'M HERE, I THINK .

MR. WOODS, COULD YOU STEP THIS WAY JUST A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE? OKAY.

YEAH, I CAN'T GO ANYMORE.

ONE THING I WANNA SAY, ROB WAGNER'S FATHER WAS A GREAT MAN.

I ENJOYED HIM SO MUCH AND, AND HE WAS A GREAT CHRISTIAN.

HE HAD, AND BOB HAD A WONDERFUL PRAYER.

I APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU, JEAN.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO NOT LIVING TREASURE.

I'M SO GLAD WE PULLED THIS OFF.

YOU FORGOT IT THOUGH, GENE.

YOU LEFT.

REMEMBER, YOU HAVE TO DO THE ORAL HISTORY AS WELL.

LIBRARY.

WITH THE LIBRARY.

OH MY.

OUR NEXT, UM, PROCLAMATION WILL BE PRESENTED TO OUR ROTARY, UH, FOR WORLD POLIO DAY, OCTOBER 24TH, 2022.

MR. YELE PRESENTED BY ROTARIAN.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WHEREAS ROTARY INTERNATIONAL LAUNCHED POLIO PLUS IN 1985.

IN 1988, A ROTARY HELPED ESTABLISH THE GLOBAL POLIO ERADICATION INITIATIVE TO IMMUNIZE THE CHILDREN OF THE WORLD AGAINST POLIO.

THIS ORGANIZATION INCLUDES THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION, US CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, UNITED NATIONS CHILDREN'S FUND, WHICH IS UNICEF, THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION AND GAVI, THE AT VACCINE ALLIANCE.

AND WHEREAS ROTARY HAS CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN 2.4 BILLION IN COUNTLESS VOLUNTEER HOURS TO PROTECTING NEARLY 3 BILLION CHILDREN IN 122 COUNTRIES, ROTARY IS ALSO WORKING TO RAISE AN ADDITIONAL $50 MILLION PER YEAR, WHICH WILL BE LEVERAGED FOR MAXIMUM IMPACT BY AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY FROM THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION.

ROTARY HAS PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN DECISIONS BY DONOR GOVERNMENTS TO CONTRIBUTE MORE THAN 10 BILLION TO THE EFFORT.

AND WHEREAS THESE EFFORTS ARE PROVIDING MUCH NEEDED OPERATIONAL SUPPORT, MEDICAL STAFF, LABORATORY EQUIPMENT AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS FOR HEALTH WORKERS AND PARENTS.

SINCE 1988, POLIO CASES HAVE DROPPED BY 99.9%.

AND THE WORLD STANDS ON THE THRESHOLD OF ERADICATING THE DISEASE.

AND WHEREAS THE ROTARY, ROTARY IS A GLOBAL NETWORK OF NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS, LEADERS, AND PROBLEM SOLVERS WHO UNITE AND TAKE ACTION TO CREATE LASTING CHANGE TO COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE GLOBE, THERE ARE OVER 1.4 MILLION ROTARY MEMBERS IN 46,000 CLUBS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

THEIR MOTTO, SERVICE ABOVE SELF INSPIRES MEMBERS TO PROVIDE HUMANITARIAN SERVICE, FOLLOW HIGH ETHICAL STANDARDS, AND PROMOTE GOODWILL AND PEACE IN THE WORLD.

NOW THEREFORE, WE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE DATE OF OCTOBER 24TH, 2022 WORLD POLIO DAY IN HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND.

THANK YOU, MR. WAGNER.

UH, IF I MAY, I WANT WELCOME MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS HERE TONIGHT, UH, IN ROTARY.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU DO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

UH, THE PROCLAMATION SPEAKS WORLDWIDE, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE EFFORTS THAT YOU PUT FORTH IN HARVARD COUNTY AND BILL, UH, YOU LEAD THAT EFFORT AND HAVE DONE IT FOR YEARS.

AND IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO TURN THE MIC TO YOU.

CLUBS THAT YOU COULD JOIN.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE, UH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HELPING US TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT POLIO.

I SHOULD INTRODUCE THREE OTHER KEY MEMBERS HERE.

OUR, UM, DISTRICT ASSISTANT GOVERNOR FOR AREA ONE, RONNIE DAVIS.

UM, AND THEN IT'S HER LAST NAME IS NOT JOURNEY, AND IT IS JAN AGAIN, AMY DANIGAN AND DIANE SANSAD.

UM, ROTARY IS, UH, ONE OF MANY SERVICE

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UM, IT DOES HAVE A MOTTO OF SERVICE ABOVE SELF.

AND IN ABOUT FOUR DECADES AGO, AS YOU HEARD, WE STARTED A, A PLEDGE TO RID THE EARTH OF POLIO UNTIL COVID HIT.

WE WERE DOWN TO TWO COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN.

BECAUSE OF COVID, WE HAD TO INTERRUPT, UH, GIVING POLIO VACCINE TO CHILDREN AROUND THE WORLD.

AND SINCE THEN, POLIO HAS HAD A RESURGENCE.

SO NOW, INSTEAD OF JUST AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN, IT HAS SPREAD TO MOZAMBIQUE, UH, TO MALAWI, TO ENGLAND, AND TO THE UNITED STATES.

WE'VE NOT HAD A POLIO CASE IN THE UNITED STATES FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

WE'VE NOW HAD ONE IN NEW YORK.

WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE.

SO BEFORE I GET EMOTIONAL, ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK TO THESE, UH, CHALLENGE COINS THAT YOU PRESENTED.

WE PRESENTED EACH OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH A PAUL HARRIS COIN.

PAUL HARRIS COIN HAS THE IMAGE OF PAUL HARRIS, WHO STARTED ROTARY INTERNATIONAL IN 1905 A FEW YEARS AGO.

UM, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT HAS SOMETHING CALLED THE FOUR-WAY TEST.

IT'S THE FOUR-WAY TEST THAT ROTARIANS THINK, SAY, OR DO FIRST.

IS IT THE TRUTH? SECOND, IS IT FAIR TO ALL CONCERNED? THIRD, WILL IT BUILD GOOD WILL AND BETTER FRIENDSHIP? AND FOURTH, WILL IT BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL CONCERNED? THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD FOUR-WAY TEST EVEN FOR COUNTY COUNCILS.

GO STEPPING THIS WAY JUST A LITTLE.

MY WIFE UNDERSTOOD THIS THAT WE DID THAT.

IS THAT GOOD? WE GOOD? THAT LOOKS GOOD.

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, APPROVAL OF MINUTES PUBLIC HEARING.

OCTOBER 11TH, 2022.

LEGISLATIVE DAY 22 DASH 0 25.

OCTOBER 11TH, 2022.

AND THERE'S ALSO NO NUMBER SIX SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.

I'M SORRY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, INTRODUCTION IN CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION 0 22 DASH 22.

THERE IS NO NUMBER SIX.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? THERE BEING NO CORRECTIONS.

THE MINUTES STAND APPROVED

[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS]

ABERDEEN ANNEXATION ZONING WAIVER IS OUR MOTION.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU MR. WAGNER.

THANK YOU MR. JANAN.

IT'S MOVED IN A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 22 22.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

ITEM NUMBER 10, INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS.

MR. WOODS? HI MR. JANNO.

AYE.

MR. ODES? MR. WAGNER? AYE.

MR. BUA AYE.

THERE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO IN A NEGATIVE RESOLUTION.

0 22 DASH 22 HEREBY APPROVED INTRODUCTION OF BILLS? WE HAVE NONE.

AGENDA

[10. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]

UH, MR. WAGNER, PLEASE READ AMENDMENT ONE TO BILL 22 DASH 0 22.

AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER G JORDANO ON PAGE TWO IN LINE 19, AFTER IN QUOTES THAT STRIKE THE PROVISION OF SECTION TWO OF MR. UH, JANA, DO YOU WANNA PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION? UM, THAT JUST TAKES OUT THE, I I THINK IT JUST MADE IT CLEAR.

UM, OKAY.

UM, AND AGAIN, DUE TO THE NATURE AND TIMING OF THIS AMENDMENT, IT WILL BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING.

SO I MAY HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BILL, UH, 22 DASH 24.

NO, UH, ZONING.

DAYCARE CENTER AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

AMENDMENT.

AMENDMENT NUMBER

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ONE TO BILL NUMBER 2222.

MAKE AMENDMENT TO NUMBER AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO BILL 2222.

MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE, UH, THE AMENDMENT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MS. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

THERE'RE BEING SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

ONE NEGATIVE AMENDMENT, ONE TO BILL 22 DASH 0 22 IS HEREBY APPROVED.

[11. CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS]

NUMBER 11, CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS BILL 22 DASH 0 22 DEFINITIONS, TAX CREDIT FOR ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS AND VETERANS AS AMENDED.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION COUNCIL PRESENT MR. SROS? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BILL NUMBER 22 DASH 22 AS AMENDED.

THANK YOU MR. JANER.

DANIEL, LET'S MOVE IN A SECOND TO APPROVE BILL 22 DASH 0 22 AS AMENDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION IT MR. WAG? IT IS AVAILABLE IN AMENDED FORM.

ANYONE ELSE? MS. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

MR. WAG, MR. BUA AYE, BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OF ZERO IN A NEGATIVE BILL, 22 DASH 0 22 AS AMENDED IS HEREBY APPROVED.

BILL 22 DASH 0 23 HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE PENSION DEFERRED RETIREMENT OPTION PROGRAM.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? MR. PRESIDENT? MR. WOODS, I MOVE TO APPROVE BILL 22 0 23 HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE PENSION, DEFERRED RETIREMENT AND PLAN.

THANK YOU MR. SROS, MOVE TO SECOND TO APPROVE BILL 22 DASH 0 23.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

MR. WOODS? MR. JANNO? AYE.

MR. SCHURZ AYE.

MR. WAG AYE.

MR. BUA AYE, BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN A NEGATIVE BILL, 22 DASH 0 23 IS HERE BY APPROVED BILL 22 DASH 0 24 DEFINITION ZONING DAYCARE CENTER.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION, MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE BILL DASH 22 DASH 0 24 ZONING DAYCARE CENTER.

CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, BUT HE ALSO BELIEVES THAT THIS WILL HELP WITH, UH, SOME OF THE CAPACITY ISSUES, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU.

MR. SROS, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND TO APPROVE BILL 22 0 24.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MR. JOHNSON? I THINK THAT, UH, THIS BILL RIGHT NOW, UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY VAGUE.

IT, IT'S LACKING, UH, VETTING OF, UH, THIS COUNCIL.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT.

I KNOW THAT WE HAD A DISCUSSION EARLIER TODAY, UH, BUT IT'S STILL, UH, LACKING IN, IN, UM, IN INFORMATION.

I THINK BASED OFF OF THAT, UH, I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE TONIGHT REMOTELY, UH, BE COMFORTABLE IN VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE, UH, IT JUST SAYS DAYCARE CENTERS.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AND I KNOW THAT WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE ZONING DISTRICTS, RIGHT? BUT, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK UP DAYCARE CENTERS, UH, IN THE, UH, PERMITTED USE CHART, DAYCARE CENTERS ARE, ARE, UM, PERMITTED IN EVERY SINGLE, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.

SO I THINK THAT, UH, WE'RE OPENING UP PANDORA'S BOX HERE SO THAT I KNOW THAT THE, THAT THIS WAS INTENDED FOR LARGER DAYCARES.

BUT THEN IF YOU OPEN, IF YOU OPEN UP PANDORA'S BOX, THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY TAKES A SPECIAL, UH, EXCEPTION FOR SOMEONE IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A DAYCARE CENTER TO THEN TURN AROUND AND ALSO USE THAT AS A KINDERGARTEN.

UM, AND I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT, WE REALLY NEED TO DRILL DOWN ON THE INFORMATION THAT IS, UH, PROVIDED INSIDE THE, THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE OF THIS, UH, BILL AND REALLY COME UP WITH A CLEAR AND CONCISE BILL THAT EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH.

THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE, UH, CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD EARLIER TODAY WERE WITH SUPERINTENDENT BOLSON.

AND, UM, HE BELIEVES, UH, HE DID HAVE SOME

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UH, RECENTLY AT THE, UH, HARTFORD BUSINESS ROUND TABLE ANNUAL MEETING, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PRIVATE, UH, PROVIDERS TO ASSIST IN OFFERING PRE-K CLASSES, WHICH WILL ALSO HELP, UH, HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS OPEN UP SOME OF THEIR, UH, CAPACITY TO, UH, HELP WITH KINDERGARTEN AND OTHER CLASSES.

UM, AND EACH OF THESE TEACHERS OR INSTRUCTORS, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

UH, SO, UH, FROM MY MEETINGS AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, I, I DO BELIEVE IT IS, UH, A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL, PLEASE, MR. JOHNSON? UH, I, AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT POINT.

HOWEVER, UM, THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS IS, UH, FOR PUBLIC OR I'M, I'M SORRY, FOR PRIVATE OR FOR A CHARTER.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THESE, UH, UH, DAYCARE CENTERS ARE GONNA GET STATE MONEY OR IF THE DAYCARE CENTERS ARE U GONNA USE TUITION THAT, THAT, UH, PARENTS PAY FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO GO TO THESE DAYCARES, UH, AS TUITION FOR THE KINDERGARTEN.

SO WE HAVE, WE, WE DON'T, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS.

UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS.

UH, ARE, ARE THERE GONNA BE, UH, UM, HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS THAT ARE AT THESE DAYCARES? UM, ARE THEY GONNA BE PAID OR DO, UH, FOR INSTANCE, ARE FOLKS THAT SELL, UH, CELEBRATE THAT IS A DAYCARE? ARE THEY GONNA PAY THEIR, UH, EMPLOYEES $15 AN HOUR TO TEACH, UH, UH, PARENTS, KIDS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, KINDERGARTEN, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, FOR KIDS TO GO TO THE NEXT GRADE, TO FIRST GRADE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS.

ARE THEY GONNA HAVE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AT THESE, UH, DAYCARES? AND WE, WE STILL, WERE GOING, WE'RE GOING AHEAD AND WE'RE RUBBER STAMPING THIS WITHOUT DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, UM, AND, AND REALLY VETTING OUT THIS, UH, THIS, UH, THIS BILL.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A CRITICAL POINT WHERE WE, I KNOW WE'RE ALMOST OUT THE DOOR, BUT WE STILL NEED TO VET EVERYTHING THAT, THAT'S GONNA GO FORWARD BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY DESERVE BETTER.

SO I, UM, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AND ADDRESSED IN THE MEETING TODAY.

UM, AND THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT COULDN'T BE ANSWERED BECAUSE THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND THE STATE ARE STILL TRYING TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE BLUE POINT, UH, KWAN ISSUES THAT WERE BEING, UM, MANDATED ON US.

SO, UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME EXPERIENCE WITH SOME OF OUR PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTY, UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT ACADEMIES WITH PRE-K AND KINDERGARTEN CLASSES, AND, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY, SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS TO GROW.

SO, UM, YOUR POINTS ARE ALL WELL TAKEN, COUNCILMAN.

UM, BUT ANYONE ELSE? MS. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? HI, MR. JOHNSON? NO.

THERE BEING SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND ONE NEGATIVE BILL.

22 DASH 0 24 IS HEREBY APPROVED.

[12. ENROLLMENT OF BILLS]

AGENDA NUMBER 12, ENROLLMENT OF BILLS BILL 22 DASH 0 22.

BILL 22 DASH 0 23.

BILL DASH, EXCUSE ME, BILL 22 DASH 0 24 ARE CERTIFIED AS BEING THE TEXT FINALLY PASSED.

UM, AGENDA NUMBER 13, UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

WE HAVE NOT YOUR PRESIDENT, BILL.

22 DASH 0 22 IS AS AMENDED.

I'M SORRY, BILL 22 DASH 0 22 AS AMENDED.

I MISSED THAT.

I HAD IT WRITTEN THERE.

UH, BILL 22 DASH 0 23.

BILL 22 DASH 0 24 ARE CERTIFIED AS BEING THE TEXT FINALLY PASSED.

THANK YOU MS. DIXON.

UH, 13 UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

WE HAVE NONE.

[14. NEW BUSINESS]

14 NEW BUSINESS.

UH, MS. BROOKS, ARE YOU WITH US THIS EVENING? SO WE HAVE AN AUDITOR, UH, REQUEST.

WE DO.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UM, I AM HERE THIS EVENING WITH THE SAME REQUESTS THAT I BRING TO YOU ALL EVERY

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YEAR REQUESTING AN EXTENSION FOR THE DEADLINE TO COMPLETE THE FINANCIAL AUDITS FOR THE COUNTY'S AFFILIATED AGENCIES.

THE COUNTY CHARTER REQUIRES THAT THE AGENCIES THAT RECEIVE AND DISPERSE COUNTY FUNDS BE AUDITED BY OCTOBER 31ST OF EACH YEAR.

UM, THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT WILL BE DONE BY THEN, AS WILL THE COMPONENT UNITS, THE SCHOOLS, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, UM, THE HARTFORD CENTER AND THE, UH, LIBRARY SYSTEM.

BUT THE SMALLER AGENCIES THAT RECEIVE COUNTY FUNDS THAT AREN'T INCLUDED IN THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THAT WOULD BE THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES.

A, UH, HUMANE SOCIETY, AND THE FIRE AND EMS ASSOCIATION AND FOUNDATION JUST GENERALLY CAN'T GET THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTING DONE BEFORE OCTOBER 31ST.

SO I AM REQUESTING AN EXTENSION FOR THOSE TO BE COMPLETED TO DECEMBER 31ST.

UM, I'M ALSO ASKING THAT YOU ALL EXEMPT FROM AUDIT, UM, EXTENSION SERVICES, WHICH IS PART OF THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM OF MARYLAND AND THE HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS PART OF THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE AUDITED THROUGH THOSE AGENCIES.

UM, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT THIS REQUEST.

THANK YOU MS. BROOKS.

UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, SEEING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MISS ANYONE? COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU MR. SHIRTZ.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUDITOR'S REQUEST OF THE FY 22 AUDIT EXTENSION.

THANK YOU MR. JAN.

IT'S BEEN MOVED A SECOND TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. DIXON? NOW, MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

MR. WOOD? AYE.

MR. JANNO? AYE.

MR. SCHS? HI, MR. WA.

THE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE.

UH, THE REQUEST THE AUDITOR'S REQUEST HAS BEEN APPROVED.

SO, B HEALTH OFFICER SEARCH COMMITTEE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR OR RECOMMENDATION OF HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH OFFICER.

UM, OUR HEALTH OFFICER SEARCH COMMITTEE, UM, HAS BEEN MEETING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UH, AND IT CONSISTS OF NINE MEMBERS, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, DR.

FELDMAN COUNTY EXECUTIVES DESIGNEE, MR. LAUDER, HARFORD COUNTY RESIDENCE, MS. VICKY JONES FROM THE NAACP AND MARY NADA FROM HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HEALTH SERVICES, HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH COMMUNITY PROVIDERS, BARRY KLEIN, HEALTHY HARFORD, AND DR.

MOY FROM THE HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE COUNCIL PERSONNEL COMMITTEE, WHICH CONSISTS OF COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, COUNCILMAN WAGNER, AND MYSELF.

WE WERE ALSO JOINED BY, UH, HARFORD COUNTY HUMAN RESOURCES TIFFANY STEVENS AND OUR COUNCIL ATTORNEY, MR. CHARLIE CARNEY.

WE WERE ALSO, UH, JOINED BY DR.

CHIN LYNN CHAN, THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

UM, I BELIEVE WE HAD 10 MEETINGS, UH, IN BOTH OPEN AND CLOSED SESSIONS.

WE REVIEWED NEARLY 40 APPLICANTS.

WE INTERVIEWED SIX QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, AND WE NARROWED THE CHOICE DOWN TO ONE APPLICANT.

AND I WANT TO THANK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THEIR TIME, DEDICATION, AND COMMITMENT, UH, TO THIS TASK.

UH, BECAUSE AS WE LEARNED, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE NOT UNIQUE IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND.

MARYLAND, AND WE ARE NOT UNIQUE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

THERE ARE FIVE OR SIX JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND, UH, GOING THROUGH A HEALTH OFFICER SEARCH AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THERE ARE MANY JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING.

SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION TO THE MARYLAND STATE BOARD OF HEALTH TO APPOINT MS. AUSTIN AS THE HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH OFFICER.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? ANYONE? I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF MS. AUSTIN AS THE, UH, HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH DIRECTOR AND BE SENT TO THE STATE.

KNOW, JOURNEY TO GET TO WHERE WE WERE OR GET TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

COUNCILMAN JERDEN.

DENI, I DON'T HAVE A LETTER.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE HEALTH OFFICER SEARCH COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO THE MARYLAND STATE BOARD OF HEALTH OF MS. MARCY AUSTIN TO SERVE AS THE HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH OFFICER.

AND AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNSEL PRESENT MR. JOHNSON? AFTER, UH, BEING ON THE, THE COMMISSION TO, UH, TO LOOK AT OUR HEALTH OFFICER, UM, IT WAS A LONG AND TEDIOUS, UH, UM, YOU

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UM, ALTHOUGH I REALLY, REALLY BELIEVE THAT MS. AUSTIN IS, UH, EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY QUALIFIED, UH, DURING THE PROCESS, THERE WAS ONE OTHER CANDIDATE THAT STUCK OUT, UH, TO ME.

UM, AND, UH, FOR, FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S WHY I WILL, UH, UH, SAY NO TO, UH, MS. AUSTIN TONIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON.

AND, UM, ANYONE ELSE? MR. JAN? YEAH, I, I THINK OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS WE'VE SEEN MARCY STEP UP.

SHE'S BEEN, UH, SHE'S BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UM, SHE'S ANSWERED TONS OF QUESTIONS WHEN THERE'S BEEN ISSUES.

I'VE CALLED HER.

I KNOW MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE CALLED HER TOO, AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANYBODY, UH, BETTER THAT KNOWS HARTFORD COUNTY AS WELL AS SHE DOES THAT CAN CONTINUE TO HARD WORK, BUILD ON A PROGRAM.

I KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT, THAT HER STAFF LOVES WORKING.

UH, THEY LOVE WORKING FOR HER AND I THINK THAT'S A, A MAJOR PART TO RETAINING, UH, QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND BRINGING THEM INTO THIS, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

SO I, I FULLY, UH, SUPPORT MARCIA AS OUR, UH, HEALTH OFFICER.

AND, UH, COUNSEL, UH, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT AND I'D LIKE TO START WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU MR. JANAN.

ANYONE ELSE? MR. DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? AYE.

SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND ONE NEGATIVE.

THE RECOMMENDATION IS HEREBY APPROVED.

[17. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS]

MR. DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO.

MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE SIX THIS EVENING.

VERY GOOD.

I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO BE MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME AND RESPECTFUL CALL YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, GLENN GILLIS, FOLLOWED BY RON CHESKY.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

GLENN GILLIS, 1936 PARK BEATS DRIVE IN ABERDEEN.

JUST VISIT CAMPAIGN FINANCE.MARYLAND.GOV.

MY GRANDFATHER WAS IN METHODIST MINISTER IN ABERDEEN.

HE ALWAYS HAD GREAT SERMONS, WHICH FOCUSED ON THREE POINTS TO MAKE SURE THE CONGREGATION GOT THE INTENDED MESSAGE.

SO TONIGHT I'M HERE TO PREACH AGAINST THE PROPOSED MITCHELL CRAIG FREIGHT DIS FREIGHT TERMINAL DISTRIBUTION PROJECT.

FIRST POINT TO REMEMBER PROPERTY RIGHTS.

WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.

THIS IS THE CONCEPT WHERE OWNERS HAVE A RIGHT TO FOR THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBOR OWN OWNERS.

AS YOU WELL KNOW, ZONING CODE BALANCES THESE RIGHTS AND PROVIDES THE RULES TO GOVERN PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION.

OFTEN THE CITIZENS CONCERNED WITH THE CRAIG PROJECT HAVE BEEN TOLD TO LET THE ZONING DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WORK.

UNFORTUNATELY, GIVEN THE PAST AND ONGOING HISTORY OF HARTFORD COUNTY, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS BEING FAIRLY IMPLEMENTED.

SECOND POINT TYPE AND INTENSITY OF USE AND IMPACT.

THIS IS FUNDAMENTAL IN THE CODE TO GAUGE APPROPRIATE USE AS DESCRIBED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT DEFINITIONS AND THE PERMITTED USE TABLES.

THIS IS HOW WE RECONCILE ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AND COMMUNITY RIGHTS.

HOWEVER, OWNERS, DEVELOPERS, AND THE COUNTY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH PLANS EVEN AS MANY OF US ARGUE THAT THE CRAIG PROJECT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NATURE OF THE PERRYMAN COMMUNITY AND IN FACT IS ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO THE CODE.

NOW THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INCREASING THE HEIGHTS OF THE BUILDING FROM 40 FEET TO 65 FEET.

NO OTHER BUILDINGS LIKE THAT IN NO OTHER, OTHER DISTRIBUTION CENTERS LIKE THAT IN HARFORD COUNTY.

INCREASING THE VOLUME OF THEIR FREIGHT BEING STORED AND PROCESSED, INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS NEEDED TO TRANSPORT, TRANSPORT THIS FREIGHT, THUS INCREASING THE INTENSITY OF USE AND FURTHER VALIDATING THAT THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE UNDER EXISTING CODE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

AND IT ALSO JUST DOESN'T MAKE INCLUDE SENSE.

THREE POINTS, PROPERTY RIGHTS, INTENSITY OF USE.

WHAT WAS THE THIRD POINT? THE THIRD POINT.

OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND ELECTIVE OFFICIALS MUST DO THE RIGHT THING AND ACT TO STOP THIS DEVELOPMENT AND FIX THE PROCESS SO THAT IT IS COMMUNITY BASED, NOT

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DEVELOPER BASED.

DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIZENS OR WILL EVENTUALLY FIND AND ELECT ONES THAT WILL PROPERTY RIGHTS INTENSITY OF USE.

RON KINSKI, THREE 19 MARINE AVENUE.

I DID LIKE THE ROTARY MOTTO THAT WAS SAID HERE EARLIER.

SERVICE OVER SELF.

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF THE NEW UPCOMING COUNCIL ADAPTED THAT MOTTO? LAST MEETING KEN SHANNON STOOD UP HERE AND MADE YOU AWARE OF, OF A NEW SUBSTANTIAL PLAN CHANGES SUBMITTED BY WIT MCQUAIG OF OF GREG.

DO WE GET ANY INFO ON A POSSIBLE NEW SIM OR DAC HEARING REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY FOR THESE CHANGES? DO WE HAVE DATES AT ALL FOR THESE MEETINGS? REMEMBER WHEN DIM WOODS STOOD OUTSIDE YOUR CHAMBERS THE DAY OF THE MORATORIUM VOTE WITH SEVEN OF HIS WORKERS HOLDING SIGNS SAYING JOBS? REMEMBER THE DEVELOPERS, LANDOWNERS, BUILDERS, LAWYERS, ALL STOOD UP HERE AND USED THE WORD JOBS REPEATEDLY WHILE NEWS FLASH? THE NEW PLANS OF THE MEGA FREIGHT CUBES ELIMINATE OVER HALF THE JOBS THEY SO BADLY NEEDED TO CREATE IT IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY DOWN ALMOST 35% OF EMPLOYEES NEEDED TO FILL CURRENT OPEN WAREHOUSE POSITIONS.

SO WHY ARE WE THE RESIDENTS OF PERRY STILL FIGHTING THESE MEGA FREIGHT CUBES BEING PROPOSED FROM RUINING OUR COMMUNITY? YOU ASK.

I COULD TELL YOU WHY.

THERE YOU COULD SEE HOW MUCH MONEY FROM DEVELOPERS, LOCAL BUILDERS, LOCAL ATTORNEYS THAT REPRESENT THEMS BEING PUMPED INTO EVERY POCKET FROM GLASSMAN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR LOCAL DISTRICT.

DEF COUNCILMAN CURTIS.

BU I MEAN, WHILE GOD'S EARTH WOULD SOMEONE SPEND MORE MONEY CAMPAIGNING THAN THEY MAKE ANNUALLY AS A COUNCILMAN? OR WHY EVEN WOULD THEY SPEND MORE TIME WAVING THE CARS ON THE HIGHWAY THAN WORKING FOR THE CONSTITUENTS? MAKES YOU WONDER, DOESN'T IT? SO LET ME GET BACK TO A COUPLE POINTS IN THE MEGA FREIGHT CUBE NOW PROPOSED, I FOUND PUBLISHED IN LIST OF PROS AND CONS.

POSSIBLE POSITIVE, POSITIVE OUTCOMES MAY BE LOCATED WHERE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE RESIST NOPE, NOT US MAY INCLUDE GREEN AND RENEWABLE INFRASTRUCTURE TO OFFSET ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

NOPE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A SURVEY AND STUDY IN OVER TWO DECADES SINCE THE CURRENT BUILDINGS WERE BUILT, DESIGN MAY IMPROVE COMMUNITY SKYLINE.

NOW THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO ON A FARMLAND ON THE BUSH RIVER.

NEGATIVE OUTCOMES, INCREASED ENERGY MANAGEMENT NEEDS, DECREASED AIR QUALITY DUE TO FREIGHT TRAFFIC AND TRUCK IDLING.

INCREASED WEAR AND TEAR ON ROADS.

FEWER JOBS ARE REPEAT.

FEWER JOBS, INCREASED FREIGHT TRAFFIC, INCREASED FREIGHT TRAFFIC IN CAP IN COMPATIBILITY DESIGNED THAT SUBSTANTIALLY.

HARMS COMMUNITY SKYLINES.

DO YOU THINK WE REALLY WANT A 60 FOOT SKY SCRAPER IN IMPAIRMENT? ONCE AGAIN, I ASKED WOULD ANY OF YOU WANT THESE IN YOUR YARDS? I KNOW I'VE ASKED IT REPEATEDLY.

HOW ABOUT YOU BARRY GLASSMAN? WOULD YOU WANT A CUBE SITTING UP ON NOBLES MILL COURT IN DARLINGTON? I ASSUME YOUR IMMEDIATE ANSWER WOULD BE NO WAY, WHICH HAS BEEN OURS SINCE WE STARTED THIS FIGHT FOR A COMMUNITY.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, MR. BULE, YOU CALLED ME ON JUNE 30TH SAYING YOU WERE WORKING ON BIG THINGS, BUT YOU COULDN'T TELL ME AT THE TIME.

I HAVE 25 SECONDS LEFT.

CAN YOU TELL ME NOW POSSIBLY WHAT THEY MAY BE? THE SUSPENSE HAS BEEN KILLING ME.

THIS IS THE RULE AND THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE, IS RATHER DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE EITHER A, YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE A RULE, NOT EVEN A LAW, A RULE, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS RIDICULOUS.

10, I'M SORRY.

TIM VAN EMDEN FOLLOWED BY ALLISON GALBRATH.

GOOD EVENING SIR.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD EVENING.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ANY TEXTS FROM YOUR WIFE, ? NO, SIR, MY NAME'S TIM VAN.

THEN I LIVE AT 1963 MITCHELL DRIVE, THAT'S IN PERRYMAN.

UH, AGAIN, I'D LI FIRST OFF I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY COMMENTS AND ACTIONS THE OTHER WEEK WHILE WE SPOKE.

COUNCIL, PRESIDENT AND TIM, ME TO YOU AS WELL.

WE, WE SHOULD ALL STRIVE TO BE PROFESSIONALS.

MY EMOTIONS GOT THE BETTER OF ME.

THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR PHONE CALL AFTERWARDS, SIR.

YES, SIR.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY DURING THAT PHONE CALL YOU MADE A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT I DID FIND A LITTLE DISCONCERTING.

I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THEM HERE.

SURE.

AGAIN, WITH THE VERBALLY STATING WHERE WE LIVE, THIS IS EQUIVALENT TO DOXING AS THIS IS LOCALLY BROADCASTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WITHOUT A DELAY.

AND THEN FURTHER ONLINE, AS I STATED, WE HAVE, WE HAVE MEMBERS WHO, OR EXCUSE ME, CONSTITUENTS OUT HERE LIVE IN LI LIVE AND WORK ON ABERDEEN, WHICH HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CLEARED PERSONNEL IN ADDITION TO OUR FRIENDS DOWN AT FORT MEAD.

THE POLITICAL CLIMATE HAS CHANGED SINCE YOU FIRST GOT ELECTED TO THE COUNCIL IN 2014, SIR.

AND IT HAS CONTINUED TO CHANGE SINCE YOU GOT ELECTED AS PRESIDENT IN 18 TO SIT THERE AND SAY, THIS HAS BEEN THE RULE FOR THE LAST FOUR, EXCUSE ME, THE LAST FOUR PRESIDENTS.

AND TO BASICALLY INSINUATE OR COME OUT, NOT NECESSARILY COME OUT AND STAY, BUT INSINUATE,

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THIS COUNTRY HAS A VERY STORIED EVENT OF THAT GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 18TH AND 21ST AMENDMENT IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

THAT IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT WITH IT, BUT STILL WE AS PRIVATE CITIZENS SHOULD HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF EXPECTED PRIVACY THAN YOU GENTLEMEN AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE THE ONES SITTING HERE GIVING OUT OUR ADDRESS ACROSS LOCAL TELEVISION.

I HAVE YET TO HEAR YOU DO THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL NEED TO BE THINGS WORKED OUT.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE I'M GONNA BE AT TONIGHT.

YOU SO TIM, BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY, MY ADDRESS IS 3 0 3 WEST LANE CHURCHVILLE.

I'VE BEEN THERE 44 YEARS.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE I'M AT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, UH, I TYPICALLY, WE TYPICALLY DON'T RESPOND.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK THAT OR TAKE THAT UP AND MAKE CHANGES IF THEY LIKE.

I, I UNDERSTAND, SIR.

I JUST WANTED TO GET THIS ON RECORD.

RECORD AS WELL AS THE APOLOGY.

SO I HAVE TO GIVE MY ADDRESS? YES MA'AM.

ALLISON GALBRATH, 29 0 5 LAMONT PLACE, ABINGDON, MARYLAND.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE SOME FEELINGS ABOUT GIVING OUT MY ADDRESS, BUT THEN AGAIN, I'M TECHNICALLY A PUBLIC SPEAKER, SO FINE.

BUT, UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT ABOUT CONDO ASSOCIATIONS AND HOA IS GONE ROGUE, UH, NOT HOLDING PUBLIC MEETINGS, NOT HAVING VOTES ON CONTRACT AWARDS, DOING SOLE SOURCE NON-COMPETITIVE CONTRACT AWARDS FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

I LIVE IN MONMOUTH MEADOWS.

UH, THAT JULY 12TH STORM THAT KNOCKED OUT EVERYBODY'S POWER, TOOK OUT THE ROOFS IN MY ROW AND I KNEW BECAUSE MY YARD WAS FILLED WITH SHINGLES.

SO WE CALLED AND WE DID THE RESPONSIBLE THING, BROUGHT OUT FOUR ROOFERS TO GET QUOTES LIKE YOU DO.

I PICKED THE BEST ONE, WENT THROUGH MY OWN INSURANCE AND GOT MY ROOF REPLACED, BUT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON ON MY STREET WHO DID IT.

IT TURNS OUT THAT 60 UNITS IN MY SUBDIVISION ENDED UP AS PART OF A INSURANCE PAYMENT ON THE MASTER POLICY.

SO MINE BRO KNEW THAT WE WERE GETTING ROOFS REPLACED, BUT PROBABLY 50 PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS BEING DONE UNTIL, OR THAT THEY WERE PART OF AN INSURANCE CLAIM UNTIL THEY ROLLED UP WITH INFERIOR QUALITY ROOFING PRODUCTS THAT CAUSED TWO TO THREE GRAND PER ROOF MORE THAN I PAID FOR MONEY, NO MEETING WAS HELD.

THEY WILL NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION WITH REGARD TO POINTS OF CONTACT AT BRETHREN, THE INSURANCE COMPANY.

CHRIS CONSTRUCTION IS THE COMPANY THAT GOT $430,000 WORTH OF WORK WITHOUT THEM EVEN GETTING THREE BITS FOR THE FULL SCOPE OF WORK.

AND WHEN I STARTED ASKING AROUND, THIS IS THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS CASE I'VE HEARD OF, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE.

THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

I CALLED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND THEY SAID THEY JUST COULDN'T STOP THEM IN TIME.

WHEN I SAID, HEY, THE COMPANY THAT DID MY ROOF IS INTERESTED IN DOING THE NEIGHBORS THE DISCOUNT, YOU KNOW, PER ROOF FOR MULTI-UNIT DISCOUNT, THEY WOULDN'T EXPEDITED THE SCHEDULE OF THE OTHER COMPANY.

LIKE NO PUBLIC MEETING, NO INPUT FROM ANY OF THE OWNERS.

CAN YOU IMAGINE IF SOMEBODY JUST ROLLED UP AND REPLACED YOUR ROOF WITH TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE QUALITY MATERIALS? I, I MEAN, SO I WOULD ASK PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, AND I BELIEVE MONTGOMERY COUNTY DO HAVE SOME LEGISLATION REGARDING THE CONDO ASSOCIATIONS AND THE HOAS ON TOP OF THE CONDO ACT AND THE HOA ACT AND THE MARYLAND STATUTE.

I WOULD ASK THAT HARPER COUNTY ADOPT SOMETHING SIMILAR SO THAT THERE IS A MANNER TO ENFORCE OUR BYLAWS AND KEEP OUR CONDO ASSOCIATIONS AND HOA BOARDS IN CHECK WHEN THEY JUST TOSS THEIR OWN BYLAWS AND MARYLAND STATUTE BEST PRACTICES IN OH FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES OUT THE WINDOW AND DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO AWARD A MASSIVE CONTRACT TO, I GUESS THEIR BUDDY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE IT.

YEAH, IF YOU COULD, UH, ASSIST WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THANK SO MISS GALBREATH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UM, I I WOULD SAY, UH, MR. MR. WOODS, YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, IF YOU HAVEN'T AND I CAN HELP YOU TOMORROW WITH IT, IF WE REACH OUT TO THE INSURANCE COMMISSION, THE STATE INSURANCE COMMISSION AS WELL.

CHRIS CONSTRUCTION HAS ALREADY BEEN INVESTIGATED ONCE FOR INSURANCE FRAUD.

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HOLD UP JUST A MINUTE, MR. JANDA.

UM, I'VE CALLED THE INSURANCE COMMISSIONER QUITE A FEW TIMES ON VARIOUS CONTRACTORS, UM, THAT GO OUT AND DO THESE PERPETUAL CLAIMS FOR DIFFERENT, UH, UH, SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THEY GO OUT AND THEY SAY THAT YOUR ROOF IS DAMAGED.

SOME OF THEM ACTUALLY PULL UP THE, UH, THE SHINGLES ON THE ROOF.

WE'VE, WE'VE CAUGHT THEM DOING THAT AND REPORTED THEM.

PART, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, UM, THE CONDO ASSOCIATIONS, IF YOU'RE IN A TOWN HOME AND IT'S A TOWN HOME CON CONDO, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU PROBABLY HAVE, WHICH IS THE WORST THING.

BUT I ALSO JUST SENT A MESSAGE TO MY LEGISLATIVE AID TO LOOK INTO THAT BILL BECAUSE IT, IT, I'M IN THE INSURANCE BUSINESS SELLING IT.

SO THAT IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM AND I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING ME THAT INFORMATION.

I CAN PROVE THAT THEY MESSED UP YOUR PART, MS. GALBREATH, IF WE WILL, WE'LL JUST STOP RIGHT THERE.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU, MS. DICKON.

DIANE SENDAK, FOLLOWED BY PAUL LAC.

I THINK MS. SINTEC LEFT ALSO.

YEAH.

NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR.

I BELIEVE SHE LEFT.

ENTERPRISE ZONES, RESIDENTS.

UH, PAUL PHALA, UH, THREE 20 MARINE AVENUE, PERRYMAN, MARYLAND.

I WANNA TALK ABOUT ENTERPRISE ZONES.

WHAT GOOD HAVE ENTERPRISE ZONES BROUGHT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THEM? ENTERPRISE ZONE IS A GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT HAS BEEN GRANTED SPECIAL TAX BREAKS, REGULATORY EXEMPTIONS, OR OTHER PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB CREATION IN HARFORD COUNTY, WE ENCOURAGE THE CREATION OF WELL PAYING JOBS FROM THE CODE, ENSURE RETENTION AND SPUR EXPANSION OF RESIDENT BUSINESSES OR TWO OTHER THINGS.

TAX INCENTIVES, TAX CREDITS ARE AVAILABLE FOR 10 YEARS ON PROPERTY TAX AND A THOUSAND TAX CREDIT PER PERSON IN THE FIRST YEAR.

THAT CAN INCREASE TO 6,000 PER EMPLOYEE OVER THREE YEARS FOR THE RESIDENT BUSINESSES OR THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THERE.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN PERRYMAN THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE BUILDINGS OR THE FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.

ENSURE RETENTION AND SPUR EXPANSION OF RESIDENT BUSINESSES, AMAZON HEADQUARTERS, SEATTLE, WASHINGTON.

THEY'RE ALL GETTING TAX BREAKS TO THESE COMPANIES.

XPO LOGISTICS HEADQUARTERS, GRENWICH, CONNECTICUT, SEPHORA HEADQUARTERS, PARIS, FRANCE, COLDWELL BANKER REAL ESTATE HEADQUARTERS, DALLAS, TEXAS.

AND THAT'S THE 860,000 SQUARE FOOT DISTRIBUTION FREIGHT TERMINAL THAT'S EMPTY ON OLD STEPHANIE ROAD.

ENTERPRISE ZONES DO NOT HELP THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN, AROUND OR NEAR RESOLUTION.

LET'S TALK ABOUT ENTER ENTERPRISE ZONES.

MORE RESOLUTION.

1217 IN 2017 WAS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMAN DISTRICT F CURTIS BULO.

BESIDES THE TWO LOTS, HE, IT ADDED 114 ACRES TO THE ENTERPRISE ZONES.

BESIDES THE TWO LOTS ON PERRYMAN ROAD AND ON CHELSEA ROAD, IT ADDED 88 ACRE LOT ON OLD STEPHANIE ROAD.

THIS EXPANSION CAME OUTSIDE THE 10 YEAR RENEWAL CYCLE OF THE NORMAL ENTERPRISE ZONE.

IT WAS ONE OF, HE WAS ALSO ONE OF SIX COUNCILMEN THAT VOTED TO EXPAND THE ENTERPRISE ZONE IN ABDON.

I MEAN, IN IN ABINGDON ON RESOLUTION SEVEN 19 IN 2019, ON NINE APRIL OF 2019 TO GIVE TAX BREAKS FOR ABINGDON WOODS.

IT WAS ALSO OUTSIDE THE 10 YEAR RENEWAL CYCLE.

HOW MANY RESOLUTIONS HAS COUNCILMAN BULO FROM DISTRICT F GIVEN TO OVER THE SAME TIME PERIOD TO APPROVE BUS STOPS? ZERO.

HOW MANY RESOLUTIONS DURING THIS TIME TO ADD SIDEWALKS? ZERO.

HOW MANY RESOLUTIONS TO ADD CROSSWALKS? ZERO.

HOW MANY RESOLUTIONS TO IMPROVE PARKS? ZERO.

WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH ALL THE TAX BREAKS AND THE TAX MONEY IF WE'RE NOT APPLYING IT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE AREAS OF THESE ENTERPRISE ZONES? I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHO THEY BENEFIT OTHER THAN THE OUT OF STATE, OUT OF COUNTRY COMPANIES AND THE DEVELOPERS.

ANYONE ELSE? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.

MR. PRESIDENT, RIGHT? WITH, UM, NO OTHER SPEAKERS?

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WE'LL GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16, BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MR. JOHNSON.

THANK COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

UM, I GUESS TONIGHT WOULD PROBABLY BE, UM, MY LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, SO DON'T ANYBODY JUMP OUTTA YOUR SEATS.

I KNOW MY WIFE IS OVER THERE, UH, JUMPING OUT OF HER SEAT.

UH, BUT, UM, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK, GO ON RECORD AND THANK THE PEOPLE OF MY DISTRICT.

UM, I REALLY, REALLY, UM, APPRECIATE, UM,

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SERVING THE PEOPLE OF MY DISTRICT AND IT WAS MY HONOR AND MY, AND MY, AND, AND IT WAS A PRIVILEGE FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND ADVOCATE FOR MY COMMUNITY.

UH, SO I JUST WANT TO THANK MY COMMUNITY, UH, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING ME TO, TO BE ONE OF THEIR LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO THANK, UH, MY AIDES AND I SET MY AIDES BECAUSE I HAD TWO, UH, IN MY TERM HERE.

AND I'M GONNA SHOUT OUT, UH, RACHEL, UH, TERSON AND MY CURRENT AID.

UH, HE'S, HE'S, UH, HE'S A LITTLE COUNTRY , UH, UH, AND, AND HE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ROCK AND ROLL, BUT, UH, BUT, UH, RYAN COOK, UH, YOU KNOW, HE, HE'S, UH, HE'S DONE ME WELL.

UM, EVEN THOUGH, UH, HIS, HIS DAD RETIRED FROM THE RAVENS, HE, HIS DAD WAS THE PUNTER FOR THE RAVENS.

UH, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S REALLY BEEN, UM, HE'S REALLY BEEN A, A, A REALLY GOOD, UH, LEGISLATIVE AID FOR ME.

I WANT TO THANK, UH, THIS LADY RIGHT HERE, UH, BECAUSE SHE IS THE GLUE THAT KEEPS US TOGETHER AT THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, MILE.

YOU ARE TREMENDOUS.

UH, AND I JUST, AND THIS IS HEARTFELT.

I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR US.

OKAY? UM, I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE DEPUTIES.

BERNIE, I KNOW YOU OVER THERE.

UH, BERNIE'S BEEN .

BERNIE'S BEEN A LIFELONG, UH, NOT A LIFELONG FRIEND, BUT HE'S BEEN A, HE'S BEEN A, A FRIEND, UH, UH, FOR A LONG TIME.

AND, UH, THESE GENTLEMEN OVER HERE, I DON'T REALLY KNOW YOU GUYS OVER THERE TOO MUCH , BUT I DO KNOW ERIC OUT THERE.

UH, SO, UM, I JUST THANK YOU GUYS FOR KEEPING US SAFE, UH, BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU GUYS, UH, WE WOULD BE NOTHING IN HERE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME ROUGH TIMES IN THIS, IN THIS CHAMBER.

UM, ALSO, I WANT TO THANK THE LADY IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

UH, MY, MY WIFE, SHE HAS, UH, BEEN MY ROCK, UH, THROUGH THESE, UH, THROUGH THESE FOUR YEARS, ESPECIALLY THROUGH C AND, YOU KNOW, UP UNTIL THESE LAST, UH, DAYS.

UH, SO SHE'S A, SHE'S, SHE'S A, SHE'S A BULLDOG.

YOU KNOW, SHE .

YOU KNOW, ANYBODY, ANYBODY THAT, THAT COMES TO ATTACK, UH, ANDRE JOHNSON, I GOTTA, I GOTTA GET HER ON HER LEASH BECAUSE SHE'S GONNA GO AFTER THEM.

UH, SO I, I THANK YOU.

UH, I LOVE YOU.

UH, SHE'S BEEN MY WIFE FOR, FOR 25 YEARS, AND I, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, UH, UH, BABY, UH, YOU, YOU ARE DEFINITELY EVERYTHING TO ME.

AND FINALLY, I WANNA SAY THIS, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I TAKE THIS JOB REALLY, REALLY SERIOUS, AND I LIVE MY LIFE BY A, BY A CREED, BY A CODE.

AND, UH, THAT CODE, IT COMES FROM THE MILITARY.

AND, UH, JUST THE FIRST PASSAGE OF, UH, THE NCO CREED REALLY, UH, EMBODIES WHAT I'M ALL ABOUT.

IT SAYS NO ONE IS, AND I'M SAYING IT LIKE I'M IN THE MILITARY NOW, .

NO ONE IS MORE PROFESSIONAL THAN I, I AM A NON-COMMISSION OFFICER, A LEADER OF SOLDIERS.

AS A NON-COMMISSION OFFICER, I REALIZE THAT I'M A MEMBER OF A TIME HONOR CORE, WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE BACKBONE OF THE ARMY.

I TAKE THAT VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE WHEN YOU BECOME A LEADER, YOU BECOME THE BACKBONE OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS LOOK AT YOU TO UPHOLD THEM AND TO, AND TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THIS JOB HAS BEEN, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, I GUESS IT, IT'S HAD ITS UPS AND DOWNS, RIGHT? UH, AND COVID HAS BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, A MONSTER FOR US.

BUT I CAN SAY THIS, THAT THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING, I HAVE ENJOYED MY TIME WITH YOU GUYS UP HERE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN, UH, BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, BROTHERS TO ME IN A, IN A CERTAIN KIND OF WAY BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY DEMOCRAT UP HERE , YOU KNOW.

BUT, UH, BUT I, I TRULY ENJOY, ENJOY MY TIME UP HERE WITH YOU AND WITH THAT, UH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M GONNA SIGN OFF TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

UH, MR. WOODS.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.

WELL, OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, UH, COUNCIL BEING APPOINTED, THEN ELECTED THREE TIMES AND SERVING ON THE HAR COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THE LAST THREE AND A HALF, UH, TERMS, IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE TOP EXPERIENCES

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OF MY LIFE.

FIRST MY LIFE, UH, WITH MY WIFE LAURA, WHO HAS ALWAYS LOVED, SUPPORTED AND HELPED ME THROUGHOUT THIS GURNEY.

WE MET WHILE WE WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'M SO THANKFUL THAT LAURA WAS HERE AT MY VERY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING AND THAT SHE'S HERE TONIGHT FOR MY LAST, IT'S FUNNY, UH, MR. BONFACE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT IT TONIGHT.

AND IF YOU THINK BACK TO WHEN I FIRST, UH, WAS APPOINTED SITTING COUPLE ROWS BACK THERE, LAURA WAS SITTING NEXT TO ME AND FROM THE DAY, MR. BONFACE, HIS COUNCIL'S PRESIDENT, SAID, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THEM JOE IS A LEADER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE COUNTY AT FIRE CHIEF.

EVERYONE KNOWS HIM.

IT'S LIKE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS THAT EVERYWHERE I GO, HIS WIFE IS WITH HIM.

SO, THANK YOU, BILLY.

THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING THAT TONIGHT TOO.

UH, SO OF COURSE, BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AT ANY LEVEL TAKES A TOLL ON YOU, AND THAT TOLL AFFECTS ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR LIFE.

AND I'M SO THANKFUL THAT I'VE HAD A PARTNER LIKE LAURA THAT HELPED ME THROUGH IT ALL.

SECOND, SERVING AS A FIRST RESPONDER IN THIS COUNTY, , UH, MAN, THAT HAS ALLOWED ME SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT I COULD HAVE NEVER IMAGINED.

JOINING THE FOLSOM VOLUNTEER FIRE AND ANIMALS COMPANY AT 15 PROBABLY SAVED MY LIFE.

IRONICALLY, IT ALSO ALMOST KILLED ME IN 1998, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT.

UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROVIDED ME WITH A EDUCATION THAT I COULD NEVER AFFORDED, PROVIDED ME WITH THE TOOLS AND EXPERIENCE TO BECOME A FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGER AND TO ALLOW ME OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP OTHERS ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY.

AND OF COURSE, HERE AT HOME, IT'S ALSO GIVEN ME, GAVE ME KATIE, MY SEARCH RESCUE DOG, .

SHE WAS HERE THAT FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, AND I WISH SHE WAS HERE TONIGHT TOO.

THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF MY LIFE, OF COURSE.

BUT SERVING ON THIS COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS, HAS NEVER BEEN EXACTLY EASY, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN INCREDIBLE.

I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY IN THE HISTORY OF THIS GREAT COUNTY.

I'M SO PROUD OF THE MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE ALL ACHIEVED.

I'M PROUD THAT I NEVER SENT A NEGATIVE MAILER OR A NEGATIVE POST ABOUT ANY OPPONENTS I EVER HAD.

I'M PROUD THAT I HAVE JUST ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY IN MY CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT AS I DID WHEN I STARTED WITH, AND THAT'S BASICALLY NOTHING.

THANK YOU TO ALL MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS, ON EACH COUNCIL I'VE SERVED ON OVER THE YEARS.

I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM EACH OF YOU.

YOU'LL ALWAYS BE MY FRIENDS AND I'LL THINK OF EACH OF YOU AS MY FAMILY.

THANK YOU TO ALL THE COUNCIL STAFF.

MYLA, YOU'VE BEEN AWESOME.

ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS' AIDS HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLE, BUT JESSICA, SORRY.

SHE BEAT YOU ALL.

JESSICA IS INCREDIBLE, AND, UH, SHE, UH, REALLY HELPED ME OUT WHEN THE YEAR, THROUGHOUT THE TIME I WAS DEPLOYED, ALWAYS MAKING SURE I HAD EVERYTHING READY, EVERY ANSWER, EVERY QUESTION.

SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE.

UH, AND SHE'S AN OUTSTANDING PERSON TO MY REPLACEMENT.

I WISH YOU THE BEST.

I HOPE YOU FIND THIS EXPERIENCE AS INSPIRING AND REWARDING AS I DID.

THE BIGGEST PIECE OF ADVICE I CAN OFFER YOU IS ALWAYS BE HONEST, CONSISTENT, AND, AND IMPARTIAL.

LET THE PEOPLE KNOW WHY IT'S A YES AND WHY IT'S A NO.

AND NEVER FORGET WHY YOU'RE HERE.

ERIN.

I KNOW THAT YOU'LL SERVE DISTRICT B IN HARTFORD COUNTY WITH HONOR AND DIG DIGNITY.

FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK THE DISTRICT B COMMUNITY FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE THIS COUNTY IN THIS CAPACITY.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AS A CANDIDATE AND FOR EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT TO SUPPORT ME AND TO PROVIDE IMPORTANT FEEDBACK ON MANY ISSUES.

THE NIGHT AT MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, I SAID THANK YOU TO ALL MY SUPPORTERS AND TO THOSE WHO, UH, DIDN'T SUPPORT ME.

I SAID, I HOPE I CAN GAIN YOUR TRUST.

WELL, TONIGHT I SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE, AND I FEEL LIKE I DID JUST THAT OVER THE YEARS.

SERVE WITH HONOR AND DIGNITY.

THANK YOU, MS. PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU MR. WOODS.

MR. JAN JORDANA.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

UM, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE, UH, ALL MY FELLOW COUNCILMEN FOR BEING UP HERE, UH, AND HELPING ME FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, UH, ESPECIALLY APRIL OF 2020 WHEN I, UH, HAD BACK SURGERY AND WAS OUT FOR A MONTH.

THANKFULLY, I WAS ABLE TO, UH, STAY HOME AND, AND NOT MISS A MEETING, UH, ALTHOUGH I COULDN'T SIT AND, UH, IT WAS QUITE A LENGTHY RECOVERY.

BUT I'M, I'M GLAD I'M RECOVERED.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HE WAS ABLE TO ASK A LOT OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

UM, CHAD, UH, ROB, CURTIS, UM, ANDRE, EVEN ANDRE AND, UH, JOE.

UM, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS ALL MAKE US THINK A LITTLE BIT HARDER.

UM, SO I, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, ANDRE, YOUR COMMENTS A LOT OF TIME MAKING US THINK DIFFERENT WAYS.

UM, CERTAINLY PAT, UM, I TALK TO YOU QUITE OFTEN, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

HOPEFULLY I'VE, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, DO A GOOD JOB FOR THE CONSTITUENTS.

I KNOW DURING COVID, I, I TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT BUSINESSES STAYED OPEN, GOT THEIR FUNDS.

I WORKED REAL HARD ON THAT.

UM, PEOPLE CALL ME ALL THE TIME, ASK

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QUESTIONS.

HOPEFULLY I CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

BE HONEST.

I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, FOUR MORE YEARS.

UM, AND, UH, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY.

AND THEN TODAY, UH, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I MET IN A RESTAURANT EATING DINNER, UH, OPENED UP A BUSINESS RESOURCE CENTER, WHICH WAS, UH, GIL KENNEDY AT HARKO.

UM, I'VE TALKED TO GIL QUITE A FEW TIMES.

HE'S ASKED ME ADVICES.

I'VE, I'VE SENT HIM SOME PEOPLE THAT, UH, I KNEW WERE LOOKING FOR SOME LOANS.

I KNEW THEY WERE VERY LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS TO DO, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I BRING TO THE TABLE IS THAT SOMEBODY'S GOT A QUESTION OR NEEDS HELP.

I CAN DIRECT SOMEBODY TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

AND, UH, SO HOPEFULLY I CAN CONTINUE DOING THAT.

AND I THANK ALL YOU GUYS, AND I WISH EVERYBODY WHO'S NOT GONNA BE HERE BEST IN WHATEVER YOUR ENDEAVORS ARE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. GINGER DREN AND MR. SHREWS.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

THERE'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH TIME TONIGHT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE AMAZING PEOPLE THAT I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING AND WORKING WITH OVER THE LAST 16 YEARS.

SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN THE GREATEST HONOR TO SERVE AS YOUR COUNCILMAN IN MY LIFE.

AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL, AND GOD BLESS HARTFORD COUNTY.

THANK YOU, MR. SROS.

MR. MR. WAGNER.

TONIGHT, I WANNA GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO MY BETTER HALF, WHO HAS ALWAYS STOOD WITH ME AS MY GREATEST SUPPORTER.

POLITICAL LIFE ISN'T EASY FOR A SPOUSE.

TINA, I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT ALL THE YEARS, AND I AM SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU AS MY PARTNER.

MY COUNCIL OFFICE RAN SMOOTHLY AND WAS DEDICATED AND HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL IN DEALING WITH OUR MANY CONSTITUENT ISSUES AND REQUESTS BECAUSE OF MY LEGISLATIVE AID.

MISS DEBORAH BUNTON, WHO WAS WITH US THIS EVENING AS WELL, HAS TRULY BEEN A BLESSING TO ME OVER THESE YEARS, THESE FAST FOUR YEARS.

I WANNA PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM AND FOR BEING A GOOD FRIEND AND FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO HARTFORD COUNTY.

OVER THIS TERM, MY OFFICE HAS WORKED ON MANY ISSUES.

WE'VE FOCUSED ON MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES, ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH SUBSTANCE USE AND ADOLESCENTS.

I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT WE STARTED MANY CONVERSATIONS AND SHED A SPOTLIGHT ON SOME ISSUES THAT OUR COMMUNITIES NOW RECOGNIZE AS REAL ISSUES.

WE DEVELOPED WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH MANY HOMELESS ENTITIES AS WE STRUGGLED TO FIND THE PROPER WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS FACET OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE WORKED WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AND ASHLEY ADDICTION TREATMENT TO IMPLEMENT THE CLUBHOUSE, A MUCH NEEDED RESOURCE FOR OUR YOUTH.

THERE IS MUCH MORE WORK AND RESOURCES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS IN OUR COUNTY.

MY OFFICE WORKED TO PROVIDE BETTER WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND DEVELOPED OUTSTANDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL STATE HIGHWAYS AS WELL AS OTHER STATE AGENCIES.

WE IMPLEMENTED A FARM BREWERY STANDARDS WORK GROUP THAT ULTIMATELY CREATED ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THAT MADE SIGHTING FUTURE BREWERIES MORE COMPATIBLE.

THE ABERDEEN ACTIVITY CENTER IS IN THE PLANNING PHASE AND WILL BECOME A REALITY FOR ABERDEEN IN 2024.

THERE WERE MANY OTHER ISSUES AND INITIATIVES THAT WERE WORKED ON FOR MY OFFICE OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES.

COVID DID NOT DEFINE THIS COUNCIL.

IT WAS A PROBLEM THAT WAS HANDED TO US TO DEAL WITH, BUT OUR WORK CONTINUED.

ALTHOUGH THE TIME HAS PASSED FOR ANY NEW LEGISLATION TO BE INTRODUCED BY THIS COUNCIL, MY OFFICE WILL CONTINUE WORKING ON CONSTITUENT ISSUES AND WILL BE RESPONDING TO OUR CITIZENS.

THE DISTRICT E COUNCIL OFFICE REMAINS OPEN, AND I WILL FINISH OUT THE TERM THAT WE WERE ELECTED TO FULFILL.

I VALUE THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT I'VE DEVELOPED.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT FROM SO MANY OVER THE YEARS.

LET US ALL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE HARTFORD COUNTY A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

IT HAS TRULY BEEN A PLEASURE AND A PRIVILEGE SERVING AS COUNCILMAN FOR DISTRICT E.

WAITING FOR THEM TO BE INSTALLED.

THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAM.

MR. BUA.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL PRESIDENT.

I THINK I'LL HAVE MY VEGETABLE FIRST TONIGHT AND THEN I'LL HAVE DESSERT.

I, MY COMMENTS.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, MR. UH, RON, AND I'M NOT GONNA WORK WITH YOUR LAST NAME THERE, I STATED THAT I WAS STILL WORKING ON ISSUES PERTAINING TO PERRYMAN TO BETTER THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BIG ISSUES CAME FROM.

MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY YOU REMEMBER IT.

MR. PAUL LAC, YOU DO NOT PUT IN RESOLUTIONS FOR SIDEWALKS OR BUS STOPS.

AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN ABINGDON, I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CROSSWALKS PUT IN, TALK TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE, AND HAVING RACE, I'VE HAD BUS STOPS PUT IN.

I'VE WORKED WITH LYNN PARISH AND IT TOOK A GREAT A LONG TIME BECAUSE OF ALL THE ADA COMPLIANCE AND STATE ISSUES.

THIS COUNTY HAD BUS STOPS SETTING IN WAREHOUSES

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SO SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES AS FAR AS THE PARK IMPAIRMENT.

SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE CAME AND STATED THAT THE PARK HAS BEEN CANCELED.

IT HAS NOT BEEN CANCELED.

THE FUNDING OF $120,000 FOR THE DESIGN PHASE WAS FUNDED.

ONCE THE DESIGN PHASE IS COMPLETED, THEY WILL KNOW EXACTLY THE COST OF THE PARK AND THEN THE, THEY WILL REQUEST THE FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE PERUSIA ROAD.

THE WIDENING OF THAT, IT'S BEEN STATED THAT THERE'S BEEN NO CHANGE IN THE PLANS.

WELL, THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR THAT, AND THAT IS BECAUSE D P W REQUESTED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ROAD PLANS, UH, THE WATER AND SEWER IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED FOR MAINTENANCE OPERATION FOR THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THEY CAME IN AND I TALKED WITH, UH, OH GOSH, JOE CMA, AND THIS IS STANDARD PROCEDURE IF THEY'RE GONNA RIDE WIDEN THE ROAD OR DO ANYTHING MAJOR, THEY WANT TO PUT IN NEW WATER AND SEWER LINES AND ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FIRE HYDRANTS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

AND THE UPDATED PLANS ARE EXPECTED POSSIBLY SOON AS THE FALL OF 2022.

SO, AND THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN FULLY FUNDED, FULLY FUNDED WITH, AND I EXPECT TO GET EVERYTHING THAT I ASK FOR TO INCLUDE SIDEWALKS, BUS STOPS, AND LIGHTING.

AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN THOSE PLANS ARE UPDATE, THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE.

BUT THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, AS FAR AS THE HYPE MONITORING SYSTEM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, UH, SB BILL 6 22 WAS AMENDED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

I HAD ASKED SENATOR CALEY JUST TO PUT THAT BILL IN FOR, UH, SPIA ROAD, OLD STEPHANIE AND MITCHELL.

NOW THEY AMENDED IT TO AND EXPANDED IT TO THE ALL OF HARVARD COUNTY.

IN OTHER WORDS, A STUDY HAS TO, TO BE DONE TO FIND OUT WHERE THOSE HEIGHT MONITORING SYSTEMS WILL BE DONE ANYWHERE OR NEEDED ANYWHERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY.

SO AS SOON AS THAT COMMITTEE'S PUT TOGETHER AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE WILL LOOK AND SEE ABOUT GETTING THE HEIGHT MONITORING SYSTEMS AND, UH, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE.

THEY ALL HAVE TO BE PRIORITIZED, BUT I CAN'T, UH, I FEEL THAT PERRYMAN WOULD PROBABLY BE FIRST ON THE LIST, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE WIDENING SPA SUSHI ROAD.

SO THAT'S THE COMMENTS THERE.

NOW TO MY DESSERT, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, COUNCILMAN WOODS, COUNCILMAN SHREDS.

COUNCILMAN WAGNER.

I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO A LONG GROW OUT STATEMENT CAUSE I'LL END UP GETTING ALL EMOTIONAL.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, WELL, I'LL JUST SKIP THAT.

BUT I'M GONNA JUST TELL YOU, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR, IT'S BEEN A BLESSING.

AND I FEEL ALL OF YOU, I MEAN, I, UM, FEEL ALL OF YOU AS BROTHERS BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW FIRSTHAND, AND I'M GONNA JUST TELL IT LIKE IT IS THE BS THAT YOU'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH.

AND I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT AND APPRECIATION FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

AND I HOPE IN MY PRAYERS ARE THAT GOD WILL BLESS YOU AND ALL YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS, AND YOU WILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS BE IN MY MEMORIES AND IN MY PRAYERS.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE THAT YOU'VE DONE.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE, YOU HAVE INTEGRITY, AND YOU'RE JUST ALL AROUND GOOD GUYS.

AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M NOT GONNA MISS YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GONNA SEE EACH OTHER IN THE FUTURE.

AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, MAYBE WE'LL GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A PARTY, JOE WOOD STYLE .

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND JUST TELL YOU, IT, IT'S BEEN A BLESSING, GUYS AND AN HONOR.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, COUNSEL.

THANK YOU, MR. BU.

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SADLY, THIS PAST FRIDAY, WE LOST ANOTHER LIFELONG HARFORD COUNTY AND BELL AIR RESIDENT.

UH, AND MY DEAR FRIEND, STAN GOETZ, UH, STAN PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 89.

UH, HE WAS AN ATTORNEY AND HE AND HIS FAMILY

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FORMED A FIRM IN HARFORD COUNTY, HIS TWO BROTHERS.

AND HE IN 1957, AND I FIRST MET HIM IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES.

UH, AND THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE CAUSE I'M ONLY 39.

BUT, UH, I MET HIM IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES WHILE I WAS WORKING AT THE BELLAIRE BAKERY, AND WE'VE STAYED CLOSE EVER SINCE.

UH, SO JEANIE AND I WISH TO EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE GETZ FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP THEM IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.

AND ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I WANNA THANK THE CITIZENS OF HAR COUNTY FOR HONORING ME, UH, WITH THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS YOUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, FOR THEIR ATTENTION AND COMMITMENT, UH, TO THEIR DISTRICTS AND THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY.

UH, I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT WE'VE HAD TOGETHER, UH, YOUR INPUT AND KNOWLEDGE AND DIFFERENT ON DIFFERENT ISSUES.

YOUR CONCERNS, UH, YOUR, YOUR ABILITY TO HELP WITH LEGISLATION HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO ME.

UM, AND JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I WANNA WISH ALL OF YOU THE BEST IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.

UM, I GUESS I NEED TO START AT HOME BECAUSE WITHOUT GENIE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, YES, IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS, I WOULD'VE NEVER RAN FOR THE FIRST ELECTION.

AND WHEN I GOT ELECTED, UH, CHAD TOLD ME, HE SAID, THIS IS A 24 7 JOB.

YOU'RE NEVER OFF.

AND JEANIE CAN ATTEST TO THAT BECAUSE WE GET CALLS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, AND I'M NOT KIDDING.

SOMETIMES 2, 3, 4 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, UH, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT, IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A CONSTITUENT JUST HAD A QUESTION, OR IT COULD BE A CALL FROM COUNCILMAN WOODS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TWO FIREFIGHTERS FALL THROUGH A FLOOR AT A FIRE.

AND WE WENT TO THE SCENE, NOT ONCE, BUT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

BUT WITHOUT HER, UH, SAYING YES TO THIS AND BEING A TRUE PARTNER IN ALL THIS, I COULD NEVER SERVE IN ANY CAPACITY.

SO, AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S TRUE.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

THIS JOB INVOLVES YOUR FAMILY, WHETHER YOU WANT IT OR NOT.

AND SHE'S BEEN A TEAM PLAYER ALL ALONG.

SO, UM, BUT HERE, I GOTTA THANK MY COUNCIL FAMILY.

I THANK MY COLLEAGUES, BUT I GOTTA START WITH MS. DIXON, MR. KEARNEY, MS. BROOKS, WHENEVER WE HAVE A QUESTION OR ANYTHING TO DO IN THE OFFICE, YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN FOR ME PERSONALLY, UH, WITHOUT MS. HARRIS, UH, SUAT OR CYNTHIA, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE.

THESE GUYS, THEY DO THE BULK OF THE WORK EVERY DAY, UH, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE AIDES.

SO WE COULD NOT OPERATE OR FUNCTION WITHOUT 'EM.

AND, AND I REMEMBER WHEN ROB CAME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT I KNEW WHAT I WAS GONNA BE DOING, BUT THIS IS TOTALLY CHANGED.

THE, THE AMOUNT OF INVOLVEMENT, UH, THE ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE US, UM, ARE EVERY DAY, UH, JUST LIKE MS. GALBRATH BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT CITIZEN IS GONNA CALL YOU WITH AN ISSUE.

AND EVEN THOUGH THESE GENTLEMEN REPRESENT A DISTRICT, WE ANSWER TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

AND WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST EVERY DAY TO DO THAT.

UM, SO AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU, UH, FOR THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU IN THE FUTURE FOR HARFORD COUNTY.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

GOODNIGHT AND GOD BLESS.