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THAT EVERYONE GET EVERYONE TO TAKE THEIR SEATS, PLEASE. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, SIR. BYE.

[a. Resolution 022-23 (911 Fee Increase-Telephone Bills)]

FOR THREE. GOOD EVENING CHAIR CAUSE ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION 0 22-23 911 FEE INCREASE TELEPHONE BILLS COUNCIL THIS EVENING. PLEASED TO HAVE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OR EXCUSE ME.

DIRECTOR AIRS CARES AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR WOODS AND BRENNA KEY HERE WITH US THIS EVENING AND ROSS. GOOD TO SEE YOU AS WELL, SIR. UM, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. COUNTY TREASURER ROBBIE SAILORS , SO ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, BRINGING FORTH A PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE 911 FEE FROM 75 CENTS TO A DOLLAR 50 PER MONTH IN THE PROCEEDS OF WHICH ARE USED TO PARTIALLY OFFSET ARE 911 EXPENSES AT THE COUNTY HAS JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH. UM A COUPLE OF QUICK SLIDES HERE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR AIRS. UM THE MARYLAND PUBLIC SAFETY CODE. 1 31 GIVES COUNTIES THE RIGHT TO HAVE A 911 FEE YOU COULD SEE IN ADDITION TO THE STATE 91 FEE, THE GOVERNING BODY OF EACH COUNTY MADE BY ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION AND ACT, A 911 FT AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS OF COURSE, WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR THIS EVENING, AND THEN THE AMOUNT OF THAT COUNTY 911 FEEDS MAY NOT EXCEED THE LEVEL NECESSARY TO COVER THE TOTAL ELIGIBLE EXPENSES OF THE 911 SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY, SO WE CANNOT SET A FEE THAT WILL BE HIGHER THAN THOSE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES AND THAT IS AUDITED. THE AUDITS ARE TURNED INTO THE STATE. IT'S ACTUALLY DONE BY AN EXTERNAL AUDITOR, THE SAME EXTERNAL AUDITOR, JUST THE COUNTY'S. UM UH COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL AUDIT. SO JUST KIND OF PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY HERE OF THE 911, SO BE BACK IN 1979 STATE OF MARYLAND ENACTED A 10 CENT FEE FOR ALL TELEPHONE SUBSCRIBERS AND THEN TOOK THAT REVENUE FROM THOSE DIMES AND SPLIT IT AMONG ALL 24 COUNTIES IN BALTIMORE CITY. THAT LASTED TO ABOUT 1983. WHEN SAID MARILYN THEN ALLOWED THE COUNTIES TO ENACT THEIR OWN SPECIFIC 911 FT, UP TO A TOTAL OF 35 CENTS. HARTFORD COUNTY FOLLOWING YEAR ADOPTED AT THE 25 CENT RATE. UM THEN, ABOUT SEVEN YEARS LATER, THE STATE OF MARYLAND ALLOWED COUNTIES TO INCREASE THAT LOCAL FEE TO 50 CENTS, AND HARFORD COUNTY FOLLOWED SUIT BY ADOPTING A 50 CENT RATE IN 1990. IN 1995, THE STATE OF MARYLAND EXPANDED THE STATE AND THE LOCAL FEE TO COVER WIRELESS PHONE BILLS. IN ADDITION TO LANDLINES. THEN IN 2003, THE STATE OF MARYLAND INCREASED THE STATEWIDE FEE TO 25 CENTS AND THE LOCAL FEE CAP 2 75 CENTS. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, HARFORD COUNTY ADOPTED AT THAT 75 CENT RATE, THEN IN 2018 , THE STATE OF MARYLAND ESTABLISHED THE COMMISSION TO ADVANCE THE NEXT GENERATION 911 ACROSS MARYLAND. THIS WAS MORE OR LESS A COMPREHENSIVE WORK GROUP THAT WAS GOING TO LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS OF THE 911 SYSTEM, NOT JUST THE 911 FEES BUT ALSO THE TECHNOLOGY BEHIND 911. UM THE ABILITY TO TEXT FOR 911 WHOLE ISSUES REVOLVING AROUND RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF DISPATCHERS. HERE ON THE COUNTY THAT RAINY RANDY CUNNINGHAM WAS ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OF THAT IN EUROS. CODES WAS ALSO VERY ACTIVE IN IT AS WELL. UM AND I FOUND MYSELF AS A LATE ADDITION TO THAT COMMITTEE IN 2020. THEN IN 2019 STATE OF MARYLAND. KIND OF OUT OF THAT 911 COMMISSION INCREASE THE STATEWIDE FEE TO 50 CENTS, AND THEY RAISED THE LOCAL CAP TO A DOLLAR 51 OF THE BIG CHANGES THEY MADE HERE IS THAT THEY SAID HENCEFORTH, THE FEE WOULD APPLY TO ALL PHONE NUMBERS, NOT JUST BILL SO BEFORE IT WAS APPLIED TO JUST AN INDIVIDUAL BILL, AND LET'S SAY IF YOU HAD A FAMILY. A FAMILY BILL. YOU HAD TWO PEOPLE ON THE SAME SAME ACCOUNT OF THREE PEOPLE. YOU STILL ONLY HAD THAT 1 75 CENTS FROM THE COUNTY. UM HENCEFORTH, AFTER 2019 THAT THEN APPLIED TO ALL ALL INDIVIDUAL PHONE NUMBERS. UM THEN IN 2022 ALSO COMING FROM THAT 911 COMMISSION, THE STATE OF MARYLAND INCREASE THE LOCAL CAP TO A LEVEL SUFFICIENT TO COVER ALL 911 EXPENDITURE, SO THERE WAS NO LONGER A HARD CAP. AND ALLOWED COUNTIES TO SET THEIR 911 FEE AT A RATE THAT THAT FULLY CAPTURED ALL OF THEIR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. OH, YEAH, I FORGOT TO PUSH THE SLIDE LAST TIME. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS KIND OF A HISTORY OF OUR 911 REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. THESE ARE AUDITED. UM YOU CAN SEE BACK IN 2013. WE WERE BRINGING IN AROUND 1.6 MILLION, BUT WE WERE EVEN THEN SPENDING ABOUT SIX MILLION RUNNING A DEFICIT OF ABOUT FOUR MILLION AND WE'VE CONTINUED TO RUN THAT DEFICIT KIND OF THROUGH EACH AND EVERY YEAR YOU WILL SEE IN AROUND 2020 20 THAT WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR REVENUES.

THAT WAS THE EFFECT OF THOSE OF THE BILLS OF THE 911 PHOEBE AND APPLIED TO INDIVIDUAL PHONE

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LINES AS OPPOSED TO THE BILLS. I WILL SAY THAT ORIGINALLY, THE EXPECTATION ACROSS THE STATE WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO RECEIVE A LOT A LOT MORE FUNDING FROM THAT , AND THAT WAS WAS WAS VERY MUCH KIND OF UNDER UNDERESTIMATED. WE DID SEE AN INCREASE YOU SEE GOING FROM ABOUT 1.8 MILLION TO ABOUT 2.52 POINT 62.8 MILLION, BUT AGAIN NOWHERE NEAR THE LEVEL OF, UM TO A LEVEL SUFFICIENT TO COVER OUR EXPENDITURES. KIND OF LOOKING INTO FISCAL YEAR. 23 THE CURRENT YEAR WE'RE IN AND ALSO SOME PRELIMINARY LOOKS AT AT THE FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET SO IN FISCAL YEAR 23 WE BUDGETED $2.7 MILLION IN REVENUE ARE BUDGETED EXPENDITURES WERE 9.3 SO EVEN THEN, STILL MAINTAINING THAT DEFICIT OF 6.6 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 24 IF WE DO NOT CHANGE THE REVENUE AS PROPOSED, AND IF IT JUST STAYS AT THAT $3 MILLION AROUND IT THERE. UM WE ALREADY KNOW THAT ARE PROJECTED EXPENDITURES ARE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO $11 MILLION, AND THIS WILL BE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DIRECTOR AIRS GOES OVER WITH MOMENTARILY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN MANY CHANGES WE'VE HAD TO MAKE BOTH TO PROVIDE THE ADEQUATE LEVEL OF 911 SURFACE SERVICE THAT OUR CITIZENS, UM, ARE ENTITLED TO, BUT THEN ALSO REALLY, TO KEEP IN IN LINE WITH A LOT OF THESE ONGOING STATE MANDATES, UM, AND REQUIREMENTS FROM THEM. UM AND SO THEN IN FISCAL YEAR 24 IF WE DO INCREASE THE RATE TO A DOLLAR 50 ARE PROJECTED REVENUE WOULD GO TO $6 MILLION OR PROJECTED EXPENDITURES WOULD STILL SAY THE SAME AND IT WOULD REDUCE THE SIZE OF THAT OF THAT OVERALL OF THAT OVERALL DEFICIT. AND WITH THAT. THEY WILL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR HEIRS TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE YOU'RE 23 WILL BE CARRYING ON THIS WEEK. 24. OKAY THANK YOU. ROBBIE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANKS FOR LETTING ME COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT. UM IT'S IRONIC THAT WE'RE INTRODUCING THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY THE TELE COMMUNICATOR WEEK AND I THINK WE'RE I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER TONIGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL. BUT JUST WANTED TO START OFF THE CONVERSATION THAT I THINK ARE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE 911 CENTER ARE THE UNSUNG HEROES OF PUBLIC SAFETY. REALLY, UM THEY'RE HELPING REALLY STARTS UNTIL THEY ANSWER THE CALL AND SEND HELP. SO, UM IN 2018. WE DID A STAFFING STUDY OF OUR NORMAL ONE CENTER AND, AND THAT'S STUDY SHOWED THAT WE WERE UM. VERY UNDERSTAFFED. UM. AND THERE WAS THERE REALLY WAS AN IMMEDIATE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FULL TIME. PERSONNEL TO WORK IN THE NOMINAL 17. SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE SEEN THE POPULATION GROW. WE'VE SEEN STATE MANDATES COME DOWN ON THINGS THAT HAD TO HAPPEN IN THE 911 CENTER. TECHNOLOGY AS YOU PROBABLY CAN IMAGINE AN ANOMALY. ONE CENTER CHANGES DRASTICALLY AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE HAVE TO STAY UP ON. NEW TECHNOLOGY. UM.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS WHY WE NEED THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE TO PUT IN 17 NEW PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS IN THE FY 24 BUDGET. AND WE NEED THAT FOR SEVERAL REASONS, BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THERE'S A STATE MANDATE THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO ANSWER ALL 911 CALLS. WITHIN 10 SECONDS. WE HAD 5000 PEOPLE THAT CALLED 911 IN HARFORD COUNTY LAST YEAR WHERE THEY DIDN'T GET ANSWERED UNTIL IT PASSED THAT 10 SECONDS. MARK AND AS A DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT. UM THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL REAL GOOD TO KNOW THAT 10 ARE 5000 OR MORE PEOPLE. UM DIDN'T GET ANSWERED UNTIL WELL PAST THAT 12TH MARK SO WE DEFINITELY NEED ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO TRY TO MEET THAT STATE LAW AND NATIONAL STANDARD. UM. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY ENHANCEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO USE THIS MONEY FOR CYBER SECURITY IS A HUGE THING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AND I THE OLD, SIMPLE TELEPHONE LINES HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY DATA NETWORK. UM ALL OF THESE CHANGES REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. UM. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT OUR PAY FOR OUR PEOPLE IN THE 911 CENTER WHERE NEEDS TO BE, BUT WE'RE WORLD. WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN THE MARKET. WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO AN ADJUSTMENT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE 911 CENTER. UM WE HAVE TO STAY COMPETITIVE JUST LIKE WE DO WITH THE M S BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS STEALING EVERYBODY'S EMPLOYEES IF THEY OFFER TWO OR $3000 MORE THAN A NEIGHBOR JURISDICTION, THEN WE LOSE OUR PEOPLE TO THOSE JURISDICTIONS. UM ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE 911 CENTER HAVE TO BE TRAINED ON NATIONAL

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STANDARDS. SO BEFORE THEY'RE RELEASED TO WORK ALONE IN THE IN THE AND AN ANSWER NUMBER ONE CALLS. THEY HAVE TO BE TRAINED ON. EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH, EMERGENCY POLICE DISPATCH AND EMERGENCY FIRE DISPATCH. UM. AND THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE CERTIFICATIONS TO CONTINUE TO WORK THERE. UM IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS WHEN I GOT HIRED IN 1984 WHERE YOU'VE GOT TRAINING FOR ABOUT ONE DAY, AND THEN YOU WERE TOLD THAT YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. NOW THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FIVE WEEK ACADEMY BEFORE THEY EVEN MAKE IT INTO THE 911 CENTER. UM WE ALSO WE ARE CURRENTLY MEETING WITH THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES. UM ONE OF THE RECENT LAWS THAT WAS CHANGED IN ANNAPOLIS. UM SAID THAT WE CAN'T TRANSFER A NOMINAL ONE CALLS ANYMORE. SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU CALL 911 IN BEL AIR, ABERDEEN OR HABIT, AGREES. WHEN WE ANSWER THE 911 CALL, WE SAY HOLD ON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CALL AND TRANSFER THAT CALLER TOO. THAT TOWN. THAT'S NOT REALLY GOOD BUSINESS, AND WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT. THE MALL SAYS. WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. SO WE'RE MEETING NOW, WITH THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES TO PUT A PLANNING TEAM TOGETHER. UM WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SUPPORT TO SEE HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR US TO PLAN TO GET THE TOWN'S ENROLLED IN OUR CENTER AT HICKORY, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO NEED THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR, UM IT WAS THAT I THINK I'LL BE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF YOU MIGHT HAVE. WELL DIRECTOR AIRS, MR SEAMLESS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND MR AYERS 84 1984. AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY SINCE THEN. YOU MENTIONED 5000 CALLS COMING INTO THE BOC THAT TOOK YOU A LITTLE LONGER TO ANSWER THAN POSSIBLE. HOW MANY SECONDS HOW MANY CALLS TOTAL DO YOU GET ANNUALLY? LAST YEAR WE HAD ON THE BUSINESS LINES. WHICH WE ALSO GET EMERGENCY CALLS ON THE BUSINESS LINES. I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY STILL CALLED THE 6600 NUMBER TO GET THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE INSTEAD OF CALLING 911. SO ON THE BUSINESS LINES WE TOOK 120,893 YEAR AND ON THE 911 LINES WE TOOK 97,022 CALLS NORMAL MORNING CALLS SO BETWEEN THE TWO ABOUT 200,000 CALLS CAME INTO THE CENTER. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DISPATCHERS, THEY ARE DEFINITELY OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT UNSUNG HEROES THAT THEY ARE, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF MY YOUNGEST DAUGHTER WHO'S BEEN HERE ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW. SO SHE DOES IN OUTSTANDING JOB AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT SHE'S THERE AND CARES AS MUCH AS SHE DOES WITH THAT COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. MR. AYERS MR SANDERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I WOULD CONCUR. UM THE DISPATCHERS ARE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE AND HEROES. UM SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ARE LONG ADVOCATED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT JUST QUESTIONS ABOUT IT BEING CENTERED ON A FEE OR A TAX INCREASE, AND I THINK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ALSO HAD THE SAME CONCERN SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION IN 2019 UNDER SENATE BILL 3 39 IN THE MARYLAND GENERAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHEN HE VOTED NO FOR IT, SO IT'S JUST JUST A FEW QUESTIONS JUST TO KIND OF CLEAR UP. AH, UM ON THE BILL ON PAGE TWO LINES. SEVEN. THE BILL IMPLIES TO THE COUNTY MAY IMPOSE FEES SUFFICIENT TO COVER MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COSTS OF 911. MY THOUGHTS IS THAT COULD BE A BROAD STATEMENT . 91 SYSTEM INCLUDES, UH, EQUIPMENT, THE DISPATCHERS THE CALL CENTER AS YOU MENTIONED, BUT ALSO THE DEPUTY IS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR FOR THAT EMERGENCY. WOULD ANY OF THAT MONEY QUALIFIED TO THE ACTUAL FIRST RESPONDERS ON THE GROUND? NOT NECESSARILY IN THE DISPATCH CENTER, SO ALL OF THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES ARE SET BY THE STATE. THIS IS BEFORE THE WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO AN AUDIT WITH THE STATE. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LIKE THE NEXT STEP, THE DEPUTIES RESPONDING WOULD BE SO IT WOULD BE THE IT'S LARGELY THE SALARIES OF THE OF THE DISPATCHERS AND THE, UM THE SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND TECHNOLOGY THAT THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE SO IT WOULDN'T INCLUDE THOSE THOSE OTHER ADDITIONAL COSTS AND AS WE'VE SHOWN IN THOSE SLIDES BEFORE, EVEN WITH THE NEW ENHANCED REVENUE, IT WOULD STILL FALL SHORT OF WHAT OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES ARE JUST FOR THOSE ISOLATED ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES. UM. IN THE CODE.

MARYLAND PUBLIC SAFETY CODE 1-3 11 UNDER SECTION C PARAGRAPH TWO READS. I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT AT THE REVENUES ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE COUNTY 911 FEE FOR FISCAL YEAR DO NOT PROVIDE THE REVENUES NECESSARY TO COVER COUNTIES OPERATIONAL COSTS FOR NINE ONCE A SYSTEM FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR.

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THE COUNTY MAY FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR IMPOSED ACCOUNTING 911 FI SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE COUNTY'S PROJECTED OPERATION COSTS FOR THE 911. AND I THINK THAT WORDING IS KIND OF UNIQUE.

UM AND YOUR YOUR BILL ALLUDES TO THAT AS WELL. SO MY QUESTION IS , THOUGH, IS THAT FEE INDEFINITE , OR AT LEAST WOULD HAVE COME BACK FOR A SECOND RESOLUTION, UM , FOR AN UPDATE FOR THE NECESSARY REVENUES, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THERE COULD BE AN AUDIT DONE, OR THERE IS AN ANNUAL AUDIT DONE WITH THAT. BE THE ONLY LAYER OF THE AUDIT, NOT THE COUNCIL. THE FEET WOULDN'T SUNSET IN THAT REGARD, SO UNLESS THE FEET WERE TO BE TO BE CHANGED NOW, WE DID FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHEREBY, UM, I DON'T KNOW. EVERYBODY GOT 10 PHONES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WERE BRINGING IN $10 MILLION.12 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REVENUE. YOU KNOW, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN LOOK INTO HATE. OUR OUR REVENUES NOW EXCEED THOSE ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURE, SO WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO CHANGE THAT. BUT I THINK THAT'S LARGELY KIND OF A ACADEMIC POINT. AT THIS POINT, I THINK IN SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THAT ORIGINAL BILLS BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THEY HAD, UM AGAIN THAT HARD CAP OF 75 CENTS AND THEN A DOLLAR 50 AND THE DOLLAR 50 CAPITALLY LASTED ABOUT A YEAR OR SO BEFORE THEN. THEY JUST THEY REMOVED THE CAP. AND SO SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE, I THINK, STILL KIND OF ALLUDES BACK TO LIKE WHEN THERE WAS TWO WHEN THERE WAS THE CAPTAIN KIND OF AS FAR AS AND THEN WENT THEN, WHEN THE CHANGE WAS MADE TO MAKE IT FOR NO FOR NO CAP GOING FORWARD. OKAY? UM WELL, THE INCREASED FUNDS BE SPECIFICALLY EARMARKED , MAYBE IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT THAT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THE INTENDED ATTENDED PURPOSES LIKE SIMILAR TO THE 50% OF THE TRANSFER TAX BEING USED FOR THE AG PRESS. SO IT IS PART OF THE GENERAL FUND. UM AND THERE ARE ACCOUNTING RULES THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN ONLY HAVE A SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDING. UM, IF THE MAJORITY OF THE REVENUE COMES FROM THOSE REVENUE SOURCES, SO WHEN THEY SAY CASE OF OUR TRANSFER TAX ALL OF THAT REVENUE THAT PAYS RIGHT TRANSFER COMES FROM THAT TRANSFER TAX, SO IT'S ELIGIBLE TO BE A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. IN THIS CASE, UM THERE'S STILL A HIGH LEVEL OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS BEING USED . SO YOU REALLY CAN'T HAVE THAT SAME YOU WOULD HAVE TO TRANSFER MONEY IN FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY THAT, UM MORE OR LESS TO OFFSET THAT SUBSIDY COSTS IF YOU WILL, AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT IT'S REALLY NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. BUT AGAIN, WE DO THE AUDIT EACH AND EVERY YEAR. UM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SPEND OR I'M SORRY. BRING IN MORE THAN ARE ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES. AND I THINK THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE FY 23 WERE THE, UH, OPERATING COSTS. 10.2 MILLION. UM AND THE FEE WOULD INCREASE TO 5.6 SO ROUGHLY $15 MILLION FOR DISPATCH. SO UM, WOULD YOU SUBTRACT THAT THAT, UM, 5.6 MILLION TO WHAT? YOUR ALLOTTING FOR THE DISPATCH CENTER, OR WOULD YOU GIVE 15 MILLION FOR ALL THE INCREASES OF SALARIES RECRUIT? MOVEMENT AND THE UPDATED SOFTWARE AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE MOST. I MEAN, THOSE THOSE COSTS ARE ALREADY IN PLAY. AND SO IF THESE FEE INCREASES WEREN'T WEREN'T APPROVED, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD ROLL BACK THESE COSTS BECAUSE THESE ARE NECESSARY PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENTS THAT AGAIN THAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE , UM, THE CITIZENS REQUIRE THEM AND ALSO BECAUSE OF STATE MANDATES, AND SO ANY ADDITION, IF THERE IF THE FEES WEREN'T UM, WEREN'T INCREASED, THEN THAT WOULD JUST BE AN ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND. DOLLARS FROM TAXES , PROPERTY TAXES, INCOME TAXES, OTHER REVENUE SOURCES WOULD HAVE TO COVER OFF THAT DIFFERENCE. SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND. SO THE 10.2 MILLION, UH, THIS NEXT YEAR , YOU'RE GOING TO STILL FUN, AND WHATEVER IS IN ADDITION FROM THE FEES IS GOING TO BE ON TOP OF THAT. SO I KNOW THE SO THE FEES . IT'S I MEAN, WE NEEDED TO ACT . I THINK BEFORE THE FEES WERE IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE OF THE DIRE NEED TO MEET THESE OBLIGATIONS THAT DIRECTOR AREAS UM, SPOKE ABOUT BUT AS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET PROCESS, AND THIS IS TRUE OF ANY TIME WHERE WE HAVE FEES, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE EXPENDITURE UM AND BEING ABLE TO RETRIEVE AT LEAST A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT RELATED EXPENDITURE THROUGH THE FEES, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT IN ITS ENTIRETY. THE ONLY PLACE WHERE WE DO IT IN ITS ENTIRETY IS WATER AND SORE FUND. THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THE FEE IS 100% COVER. THE COST OF THE SYSTEM. YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING PERMITS OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT WEEK WITH SOLID WASTE, OR, UM, HERE WITH 911 FEES? UM WE KIND OF HAVE THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE. UM AND THEN WE NEED TO TRY TO FIND A FAIR AND REASONABLE AND EQUITABLE FEE STRUCTURE TO OFFSET A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT, UNDERSTANDING THAT WILL STILL MAINTAIN THAT SUBSIDY. UM MR AYERS OR MR WOODS OR ROSS? UH REMEMBER HEARING THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE CAT SYSTEM. IS THIS WAS THERE STILL A CURRENT PROBLEM WITH THE CAT SYSTEM KIND OF GENERATING INFORMATION AND GENERATING THE REPORTS THAT THIS WOULD HELP OUT WITH I MEAN, WE

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HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING WITH THE CAD VENDORS TO TRY TO FIX UM JUST LIKE ANY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER. I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS SOME ISSUES THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON WITH THE CAT SYSTEM. UM WE, UM WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING GOOD SUPPORT FROM THE CAD VENDOR NOW TO FIX MOST OF THE ISSUES, BUT I DO HAVE DEPUTY DIRECTOR BERNANKE STUDYING OUR CURRENT CAD SYSTEM RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THE SYSTEM. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE, GOING FORWARD OR WHETHER WE WANT TO LOOK AT ANOTHER SYSTEM. OKAY WE ARE HELP WITH THAT. YES. UH AND I THINK, UH, YOU ANSWER THE ONE QUESTION THIS IS PER LINE NOT PER BILL. CORRECT YES. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR PRESIDENT. BEEN A WHILE SINCE I SAID THIS, MR BENNETT. WELL, IT IS GOOD. UM AND I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 75 CENTS PER LINE AND INCREASE, RIGHT. SO ALL RIDE THE SNOOPY AIRPLANE AT THE MALL ONE LAST TIME PER YEAR IN ORDER TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE IN MY BUDGET 75 LAST CENTS PER YEAR IN MY BUDGET TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE. BY YOU KNOW, IT'S 75 . CENTS MORE IN MY PHONE BILL, ESSENTIALLY FOR EACH EACH PHONE BILL, THERE WOULD BE A DOLLAR 50 FROM THE COUNTY AND IN 50 CENTS FROM THE STATES. DOLLARS UM, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ALREADY PAYING 75 CENTS. IT'S AN EXTRA 75 CENTS. IT'S. YEAH I COULDN'T EVEN BUY A CHEESEBURGER AT MCDONALD'S OF 75 CENTS, SO IT'S REALLY A NOMINAL FEE COMPARED TO THE SERVICE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED TO THE COMMUNITY BY PAYING THAT 75 CENTS. AND WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT? I JUST THINK, WHAT WAS IT A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, WE HAD 911 DISPATCHER COME TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND SHARE ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY DO, AND JUST, YOU KNOW. I THINK IT'S EASY TO FORGET JUST WHAT THEY HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND THEN THEY HANG UP THE PHONE AND THE NEXT CALL COMES IN AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO. IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT WORK, EMOTIONALLY DRAINING WORK. UM, I JUST I DON'T SEE THE DIFFICULTY AND SUPPORTING THAT, YOU KNOW 75 CENTS, BUT THE TO GIVE THAT UP IN EXCHANGE FOR WHAT THEY DO. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER AS A COMMUNITY. WHAT ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY IF WE CAN'T SUPPORT THAT AS A FUNCTION? BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN THAT 911 DISPATCHER CAME, THEY ASKED FOR SUPPORT AND, UM, IN THEIR RETIREMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY WORKERS THEY RETIRE EARLIER THAN THEM. AND YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH JUST AS MUCH TRAUMA, IF NOT MORE THAN A LOT OF PUBLIC SAFETY WORKERS AND WHAT THEY DEALING WITH EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND TO THINK ABOUT MAKING IT TO RETIREMENT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THEM, AND I JUST THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH US CONTINUING TO EXPLORE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE COMING TO OUR COUNTY WITHOUT NECESSARILY RAISING. UM AH INCOME LEVELS BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD ENVISION THEMSELVES RETIRING IN HARFORD COUNTY. THEY'D STAY IN HARFORD COUNTY, KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW THEY COULD FINISH THEIR CAREER HERE VERSUS MAYBE NOT MAKING IT TO THEIR END OF THEIR CAREER IN A NEIGHBORING COUNTY. SO THAT WAS JUST A COMMENT THAT WE HEARD BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL. BUT WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO THE MEETINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY WORTH CONSIDERING BECAUSE I HAD NEVER REALIZED JUST HOW MUCH LONGER THEY HAD TO WORK THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY WORKERS. AND THAT REALLY TOUCHED ME BECAUSE JUST YOU KNOW, YOU MAKE ONE TRAUMATIC PHONE CALL THE 911 . BUT THEN WHEN THAT PHONE CALLS OVER THERE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEXT PERSON AND LIKE YOU, SAYS 200,000 PHONE CALLS A YEAR . THAT'S A LOT SO I YOU KNOW, I FULLY SUPPORT THIS, BUT I REALLY THINK YOU FOR SHARING AND BREAKING DOWN THE COST, AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL START BUYING SO MANY GUMBALLS IN EXCHANGE TO SUPPORT WHAT YOU ALL DO. BUT TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE RETIREMENT, WE ARE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY BOARD ABOUT TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVICE RETIREMENT SYSTEM GOING FORWARD. BECAUSE R E. M. T S AND PARAMEDICS ON THE STREET. THEY DON'T HAVE IT, EITHER. SO IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT.

GOING FORWARD. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP THANK YOU. MR BENNETT. MR RILEY. I JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, I SEE. WE GOT A PROJECTED DEFICIT OF 4.9 MILLION AND 24. WHY WOULDN'T WE INCREASE IT? SO WE COVER THAT DEFICITS AND WE HAVE THAT ABILITY. MAYBE WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE LEGAL THE LEGAL RIGHTS IN THIS KIND OF GETS BACK TO THAT QUESTION OF HOW DO WE BALANCE FEES WITH GENERAL TAX DOLLARS TO PAY FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICES? UM YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE'RE TALKING WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND WE KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING IN ACROSS ACROSS MARYLAND. YOU SEE THAT THAT DOLLAR 50 RANGE IS WHERE A LOT OF THEM ARE

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SETTLING. BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO INCREASE THAT AND AGAIN IN THE FUTURE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COST THAT THAT WOULD THAT WOULD NECESSITATE THAT OR THAT THAT DEFICIT WOULD WOULD CONTINUE TO GROW AND CROWD OUT OTHER GOVERNMENT SPENDING. THAT'S CERTAINLY FOR ME A CONVERSATION YOU KNOW WE CAN HAVE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE THAT WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. WE COVER THESE COSTS THROUGH THAT. THE OTHER THING YOU SAID TO ROLL IN ROLL HICKORY. AND ROLL THE TOWNSHIPS AND THE HICKORY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE TAKE A NOMINAL ONE CALL TRANSFERRED. I GOT THAT SAYS WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY A ROLLING THEM IN? ARE YOU BRINGING THEM TO THE TEAM TOGETHER TO PLAN? MOVING THEM INTO OUR DISPATCH. OKAY, SO THEY'RE DISPATCHED UNDER WILL AND ESSENTIALLY JUST CLOSED DOWN. AND THEY WILL BE UP IN IN NEW EUROPE STILL HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE THERE TO GREET PUBLIC WHEN THEY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THEIR 11 AND WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PAY FOR A DISPATCHER? UH, RAW. SOMEONE REFERRED.

SORRY. AFTERNOON ROSS CODES. I'M THE MANAGER OF THE 19 1 CENTER FOR THE COUNTY. UM, TAKE A COUNCIL MEMBERS SO STARTING SALARY FOR NINE MORE MONTHS. NATIONALIST TODAY IS $44,000 A YEAR. UM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE PARENTS, PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS A CAREER OPPORTUNITY, AND THEY'RE DEALING WITH YOUR WIVES EVERY DAY.

$44,000 HARDLY SEEMS SUFFICIENT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LIFESAVING ACTS THAT HAPPEN EVERY DAY IN THAT CENTER GO UNRECOGNIZED. WE DO HAVE CAREER GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES. UM, BUT STILL NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO BE COMPETITIVE IN TODAY'S PUBLIC SAFETY SPECIALIST MARKET, OBAMA 911 OPERATOR AND I STARTED OUT AT 44. WHAT CAN I TOP OUT AT JUST BEING A 911 OPERATOR? SO OUR CAREER PATH REQUIRES YOU TO PROMOTE INTO A PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER TO POSITION WHICH IS A RADIO DISPATCHER AND A NOMINAL ONE CALL TAKER CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT IS RIGHT AROUND 52,000. HMM. THAT'S ALL. MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. ROSS WILD WHILE YOU'RE SPEAKING, CAN YOU GIVE JUST A COUPLE BRIEF EXAMPLES WITHOUT GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL? SOME OF THE CALLS THAT ARE CALL TAKERS TAKE. I MEAN, WE KNOW, BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO GIVE SOME SORT OF INSIGHT TO THE PUBLIC. ABSOLUTELY. AND IN FACT, WE HAVE ONE OF OUR SPECIALISTS HERE WITH US TODAY, JOY. JOY CLARK IS ONE OF OUR NUMBER ONE SPECIALIST TODAY BUT JUST SOME BROAD EXAMPLES. WE DEAL WITH THE HAPPY TIMES. RIGHT CHILDBIRTHS THE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S NOT A IMMEDIATE LIFE THREAT, AND WE CAN BRING HAPPINESS TO SOMEBODY'S. CRISIS UM, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE RARITY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS OR TRUE CRISIS. AND PEOPLE DON'T THINK THAT OH, VANDALISM TO YOUR CAR OVERNIGHT IS A CRISIS. BUT TO THAT PERSON WHO'S EXPERIENCING IT, IT'S THE WORST DAY. AND YOU'RE TRYING TO COACH THEM THROUGH THIS CRISIS. GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED. GET THE OFFICERS ON SCENE TO ASSIST THEM GET THE POLICE REPORT WRITTEN, POSSIBLY LOOK FOR CLUES, SUSPECTS THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN THE COUNTY . UM IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY. THERE'S UM THERE'S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WITH WEAPONS. UM I THINK YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY VERY AWARE OF THE LARGE FIRE. THAT HAPPENED, UM EARLIER THIS WEEK. UM MANY RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY WE LOST THEIR HOMES. WE DEAL WITH THAT ON A DAILY BASIS, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT R CALL VOLUMES. NOT ONLY ARE THEY INCREASING, BUT THE ACUITY OF THESE CALLS IS INCREASING AND THE PUBLIC'S EXPECTATION IS INCREASING AND IN ORDER TO TRY AND MEET THESE DEMANDS. THAT'S WHERE THIS LEGISLATION PASSED. HELPS US MEET THAT DEMAND AND WHAT THAT COMMUNITY REALLY EXPECTS FROM US. AS A SERVICE FOR ROGER. AND IN MANY CASES, THE DISPATCHER IS GIVING DETAILS ON LIFE SUSTAINING EFFORTS UNTIL THE PARAMEDICS GET THERE.

CORRECT ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WE'RE DOING THAT EVERY DAY, SO NOT JUST LIFESAVING, BUT HOW TO GET YOURSELF OUT OF A SINKING VEHICLE. HOW TO GET YOURSELF OUT OF A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE NOT SAFE WHERE THERE'S WEAPONS INVOLVED. HOW TO GET OUT OF A BURNING BUILDING. DELIVER A CHILD. HOW DID YOU CPR? ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT ARE PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH ON A

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DAILY BASIS. THANK YOU. MR JAN JANET. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. DIRECTOR AIRS DIRECTOR SANDERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. MR ROSS QUESTION. GOING BACK TO THE SALARY IS THAT HOURLY? OR IS THAT A SALARY WAGE? WE ARE PAID OUR WE AND THERE IS PREMIUM OVERTIME INVOLVED WHEN NECESSARY. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S MORE FREQUENTLY THAN WE I WOULD LIKE TO ADMIT THAT IT IS WHAT IS OVER TIME? HOW MANY HOURS AFTER THEY WERE COMING HOURS SO WE CAN MANDATE UP TO FOUR HOURS ADDITIONAL. UM MOST OF OUR STAFF ARE DOING AT LEAST THAT IN A PAY PERIOD 40 HOUR, THEY SO ANYTHING OVER AFFORDING AND OKAY, SO THAT WAS THAT WAS MY ONE QUESTION. SO YOU'RE GETTING THE THEY ARE GETTING OVERTIME. UM. WHEN YOU HIRE SOMEBODY NEW AND THEY COME FROM ANOTHER JURISDICTION, AND I KNOW THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, ESPECIALLY BALTIMORE COUNTY, THEY'RE PAYING MORE SO. YOU'RE NOT MATCHING THEIR SALARIES TO BRING THEM UP HERE. CORRECT WE ARE NOT. HOWEVER WE DO OFFER A SLIGHT LATERAL INCENTIVE OF A 3% INCREASE IN YOUR INITIAL STARTING SALARIES, SO 3% ABOVE THE 44,000. BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CARRY WITH YOU AS YOU PROGRESS THROUGH THAT CAREER PATHWAY, RIGHT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT BALTIMORE COUNTY STARTS HIM AT ALL? I THINK THEY ARE 40. THREE KEY RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE SO THE DISPARITY COMES IN WHERE THE AMOUNT OF YEARS THAT THEY HAVE AND THE PAY RAISE THAT THEY GET THAT GOES UP. THAT'S OUR WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT ON PART WITH THEM AT THAT. THIS POINT, OKAY? ACTUALLY JUST, UM WE LOST VERY QUALIFIED, UM, CANDIDATE A WEEK AGO. UM KEN WAS WORKING FOR ANOTHER DISPATCH CENTER. UM IT WAS LOOKING AT AN OPPORTUNITY WITH US. UM, BUT IT IS IN THE END. CALVARY WAS THE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? OKAY, JUST COULDN'T NEED IT. WOW I WANT TO THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S A VERY STRESSFUL JOB BEING ON THE, UH ONE THING. I DIDN'T MENTION WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IN THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR COUNTY. WE GET SO MANY FARMERS IN REFERENCE TO THAT AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT ROSS DID NOT MENTION IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY HAVE EXPECTATIONS. FOR US TO STAY ON THE LINE WITH THEM DURING THE CALL UNTIL HELP ARRIVES, WHICH OBVIOUSLY TIES UP THE LINES FOR OTHERS, AND WE CAN END AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. GET THEM OFF OF THE PHONE. BUT IF THEY ARE IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WE REALLY CAN'T THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO THE PROJECTED EXPENDITURES A 10.9 FROM THE 9.3 IS THAT DUE TO THE 16 PEOPLE THAT WE'RE HIRING. IN ADDITION, MOST OF THOSE WERE NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET. SO WHEN COUNTY EXECUTIVE KATHLEEN CAME ON ONE OF HIS ONE OF HIS FIRST, UM MAJOR DECISIONS WAS WAS PROVIDING THOSE 17 ADDITIONAL POSITIONS AND ALSO DOING SOME SALARY ENHANCEMENTS. SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE WHAT WE WOULD CALL YOU MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, BUT THEY REALLY WILL SHOW UP IN THE FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET VERSUS THE ORIGINAL 23. SO THE DISPATCHERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FOR A MINUTE FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES. HOW MANY OF THOSE TOTAL OR OR ARE WE GOING TO TAKE IN FROM THERE? I THINK THIS 16. THAT'S THAT'S ALL OF THAT PART, WILL THEN NEED TO BE DETERMINED AN ADDITIONAL AND THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THAT I DO THINK THAT THE COSTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. WHETHER THAT IS, IF WE NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS FOR THIS, WHETHER WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR OUR SALARIES , WHETHER WE CONTINUE TO NEED TO DO OTHER FORMS OF TECHNOLOGY UPGRADES. IF WE EVER DO ANYTHING WHEN THEIR RETIREMENT SIDE THAT WOULD ALSO RESULT IN A HIGHER BUDGET BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A HIGHER PENSION PAYMENT IF YOU WILL. SO YEAH, THIS THIS AREA IS PROBABLY NOT WILL WILL CONTINUE TO GROW ONE PROBABLY FASTER THAN THE REST OF THE BUDGET OF THREE RM MUNICIPALITY EMPLOYEE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BECOME A HARTFORD COUNTY. EMPLOYEE I BELIEVE ALL OF THIS WILL WELL WHAT WE WERE IN THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF THIS FIRST PLANNING MEETING. ARE WE GONNA GET COMPENSATED FOR THE COUNTY GONNA GET COMPENSATED FROM AN ADMINISTER PALETTE EASE FOR BRINGING THESE PEOPLE IN THAT WE'RE TAKING OVER THERE. WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT AT THE ARRANGEMENTS WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE TOWNS AS FAR AS HOW THAT WORKS, I DO KNOW. WHEN WE CALCULATE OUR POLICE SAY TO THE TOWNS THAT THERE IS A THERE WAS A 911 COMPONENT, SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THAT THERE COULD BE A CHANGE IN THAT FORMULA. WHICH COULD REDUCE SOME OF THAT.

BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THIS WILL ALL NEED TO BE DISCUSSED. IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY, UM EACH PHONE LINE IS THAT ONLY IF THE BILLINGS IN HARTFORD COUNTY SO IF THE BILLING IF A BUSINESS IS IN BALTIMORE COUNTY AND PEOPLE LIVE UP HERE YEAH, THERE IS CERTAINLY SOME SOME SOME LEAKAGE WITH WITH THAT TYPE OF ARRANGEMENTS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE ON UM, YOU KNOW

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NORMALLY WHEN YOU DO GO AND YOU YOU HAVE, LIKE A FAMILY BUILDING AND YOU MIGHT HAVE SAY, SAY, YOUR YOUR MOM AND YOUR DAD ARE ON YOUR PLAN, AND THEY LIVE IN THE LIVE IN THE NEXT COUNTY OVER, UM, BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO KIND OF TRACK THAT TO BE LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S TWO IN BALTIMORE COUNTY AND TWO IN HARFORD COUNTY. BUT THERE'S PROBABLY NO DOUBT THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THINKING MORE BUSINESSES THAN THAN FAMILY BUSINESS. MAYBE PERHAPS SOMEONE THAT ON THE BUSINESS CELLPHONES AND LIKE IT'S DIFFICULT NOW WITH, UM I WOULD TELEPHONE NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, LIKE NOWADAYS, WHATEVER YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER IS PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO CHANGE IT. IT'S THE ONLY NUMBER I KNOW. UM SO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE PHONE NUMBERS FROM FROM KIND OF ALL OVER AND I DO THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THAT THAT THE WHOLE 91 WANTS. SOME KIND OF STATEWIDE AND NATIONWIDE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S ALL ALIGNED. AND WHAT ABOUT VOICE? UH, WHERE I'M WORKING FROM HOME AND I GET A PHONE NUMBER FROM HOME. IF IT HAS THE NUMBER THAN YES, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN, IF YOU LOOK FOR A WHILE. WHEN I HAD THE COMCAST TRIPLE PLAY, I KNOW THAT I HAD THE 911 FEELING THAT I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT MY NUMBER WAS WITH THAT TRIPLE PLAY, BUT I KNEW THAT I HAD A 911 FEE ATTACHED TO IT. WHAT I'M THINKING IS PEOPLE THAT WORK AT HOME, MAYBE IN THERE IN BALTIMORE CITY OR SOMETHING, AND THEY GET A PHONE NUMBER AT HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE USING A VOID.

WHAT DOES THAT DOES THAT COUNT OR NOT, IF IT IF IT IS BUILT TO IF IT'S GOT A SEPARATE NUMBER, IT SHOULD BE. IT SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER UNDER THAT, IF, BUT AGAIN WITH SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT CAN GET CAN GET MONEY. THEY'RE PROBABLY PAYING IT SOMEWHERE. UM AND YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE REALLY IT'S THE STATE THAT MINISTERS THIS AND IT'S SO HOW HOW THIS WORKS IS I WILL. ASSUMING THAT THIS IS ALL PAST. WE'LL LET THE CONTROLLER ALONE. NO, UM, THAT THAT THIS ACTION WAS TAKEN ALSO THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION AND THE STATE NUMBERS BOARD. UM BUT IT'S REALLY THE STATE THAT MORE OR LESS IS COLLECTING THE FEE AND THEN THEY SEND IT TO US AND FOUR QUARTERLY DISBURSEMENTS. ANY OTHER COUNTIES HAVE THE SAME PROJECTED DEFICIT, AND ARE THEY ARE THEY MORE OR LESS LOOKING TO RAISE THEIR FEES OR GET REVENUE FROM ANYWHERE ELSE IS THERE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE OR IS THERE ALWAYS GOING TO BE A DEFICIT AND THEY HAVE A DEFICIT? EVERYBODY HAS A DEFICIT. YOU TALKED TO A LOT OF THESE WOULD SO I KNOW CARROLL COUNTY RAISED THEIR RATES $2.50 LAST YEAR. I KNOW THAT THERE THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO COVER ALL OF THEIR THEIR EXPENDITURES. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY COUNTY YET THAT THAT HAS SAID LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS FEE. EXACTLY WHAT IT WHAT IT WOULD BE. IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF EACH UM EACH 75 CENTS BRINGS IN $3 MILLION WITH WITH ABOUT A $5 MILLION DEFICIT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT HIM. YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR AND A QUARTER OR SO OF PROBABLY NOT OF AN ADDITIONAL FEE YOU WOULD NEED TO DO SO I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OTHER COUNTIES. UH DO THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT GOES DOWN TO THIS IS A ANYTHING THAT WE DON'T BRING IN FROM THIS FEE HAS TO BE COVERED WITH GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, WHICH MEANS THAT THAT'S MONEY THAT COULD OTHERWISE BE GOING TO ANY OTHER. UM WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY OR PARKS OR OR EDUCATION OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT KIND OF GOES AFTER THOSE SAME DOLLARS. UM BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE SAME DISCRETION SOMETIMES TO SAY NO TO THESE EXPENDITURES. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT AS DISCRETIONARY IF YOU WILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN. THANK THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION . ONE OTHER THING THAT I FAILED TO MENTION THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT. I THINK EVERYBODY STILL THINKS OF THE 911 CALL IS JUST SOMEBODY PICKING UP THE PHONE. AND DARLING NORMAL MORNING CALLING THAT WAY. NOW WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO CALL 911, THEY CAN TEXT THE NORMAL ONE. AND THIS NEXT YEAR, NOMINAL ONE ALSO WAS GOING TO ALLOW US FOR PEOPLE CONCERNED VIDEOS AND PICTURES INTO THE 911 CENTER WHEN THEY'RE CALLING IN THE EMERGENCY. AND BEFORE THE RESPONDERS EVEN GET TO THE SCENE. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHARE PICTURES AND VIDEOS WITH THEIR RESPONDERS. SO IMAGINE IF YOU'RE A POLICE OFFICER RESPONDING TO A CALL OR YOUR FIRE CHIEF RESPONDING TO A CALL, AND YOU HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY AT YOUR HAND, EVEN BEFORE YOU GET THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. IS THE NEXT GEN REMEMBER WORKING ON THE NEXT GEN. WE'RE ON HERE, AND THAT'S IS THAT UP AND RUNNING. SO THAT THE TEXT THE NOMINAL ONE FEATURES ALREADY SOME OF IT STILL. IN THE PROCESS, AND I KNOW THAT THAT GAVE BETTER PINPOINTING OF PEOPLE IN CELL PHONES FOR WHERE THEY'RE AT. I DON'T EVEN THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THAT YOU KNOW WHEN THESE MASSIVE STORMS COME THROUGH AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING THAT AS WELL AS 911 EMERGENCY. YOU KNOW ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF ABDUCTED AND THEY CALL 911. WE CAN PRETTY MUCH POINT GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION WHERE THAT PERSON IS. GREAT THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR GUTHRIE. GO SOMEWHERE. QUESTIONS FOR ANSWER, BUT I GOT A COUPLE TALKING ABOUT CELL PHONE FOR A MINUTE. HOW DOES HAVE IS A FEET PUT ON A CELL PHONE, FOR INSTANCE. LET'S SAY SOMEONE FROM BALTIMORE COUNTY AS A BOMBER COUNTY PHONE CELLPHONE WILL EVER BALTIMORE COUNTY COMES IN

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HARFORD COUNTY. SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY HAVE DONE 911. HOW DOES HOW IS THE FEE CHARGED TO A CELLPHONE, PARTICULARLY TODAY'S WORLD? BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE THEY NO LONGER HAVE LIGHT LANDLINES. YOU KNOW, THEY JUST HAVE CELL WHERE, UM, WITH THE HOME ADDRESS OF THE INDIVIDUAL, UM RESIDES AND THIS IS WHERE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THAT'S NOT. THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BUILDING.

BUT AGAIN IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD UM, A LOT OF YOU HAVE FAMILY PLANS, AND YOU KNOW THEY MIGHT HAVE THEIR PARENTS OR THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON THEM AND THEY MAY BE. THERE ARE WAYS THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO GO BACK TO WHEREVER THAT INDIVIDUAL LIVES LIVES, RESPECTIVELY. BUT I THINK A LOT OF TIMES IT PROBABLY JUST ENDS UP GOING TO WHEREVER IT'S BILLED. UNLESS THOSE THOSE FIELDS ARE ALWAYS FILLED OUT. UM, BUT IF YOU CALL 911 AND YOU'RE YOU'RE FROM OUT OF STATE. I MEAN, IT'S AND YOU YOU CALL 911. I'M NOT SPEAKING ATTORNEY.

BUT YOU WANNA WANNA CELLPHONE AND YOU'RE FROM NEW YORK CITY AND YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH 95.

IT'S GOING TO GO TO YOU GUYS AND IF YOU GO DOWN THE ROAD AND GO IN THE BALTIMORE COUNTY, IT'LL IT'LL THEN GO TO BALTIMORE COUNTY. SO THEN, UM LET ME GUESS THAT MIGHT BE THE MAYBE THAT'S A MINUSCULE PART. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO LOOK. YOU GET THE FEEDS FROM THEM. I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE ANY WAS GONNA HAVE SOME THAT YOU HAVE, UM VISITORS FROM OUT OF AREAS. UM YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE HAVE SOME OF THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S UM SOME OF THOSE THINGS. YOU KNOW, THOSE INDIVIDUALS PROBABLY AREN'T REALLY PAYING FOR A LOT OF OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND SAFETY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE THAT IN ANY IN ANY COMMUNITY, AND I THINK YOU ALSO TOUCHED ON THIS. NOTICE IN IN 22 , YOU HAVE OVER $6 MILLION DEFICIT AND IN 23/7 MILLION, THEN YOU DROP DOWN WITH HELPED A LITTLE BIT IN 24. YOU HAVE A 4/4 MILLION DOLLARS, DAVID. SO I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON THIS. UM UH , DEFICIT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT MONEY TO OPERATE. OKAY SO IS SUBSIDIZING IT REALLY PROPERTY TAXES AND INCOME TAXES ARE COVERING UP THE SHORTFALL. AND THE REASON WHY I GOT A LITTLE BIT BETTER IS THAT WHEN THEY WENT IN 2020 FROM DOING IT FOR BILL TO DOING IT FOR LINE BECAUSE THEN YOU HAD SITUATIONS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE A BUSINESS THAT MIGHT HAVE 10 PHONES OR YOU MIGHT HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY PLAN. THAT'S WHERE WE WENT FROM PICKING UP. WHAT THEY USED TO DO. UM THAT'S WHERE WE WENT FROM FROM BRINGING IN ABOUT 1.8 MILLION TO ABOUT 2.8 MILLION , SO WE DID SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM THAT FROM THAT CHANGE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR AYERS. THANK YOU, BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU YELL OR COLUMN OR CALLING OR SOMETHING MY WIFE SAID THERE GOES UP MR EARS AGAIN . WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. ANYONE ELSE? MISTAKES AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO, MR PRESIDENT. WE HAVE TO THIS EVENING JOYED CLARK, FOLLOWED BY BOB TIBBS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

FOR 18 CRISFIELD DRIVE, ABINGTON. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AS A 911 DISPATCHER AGAIN ON 22-23.

MR BENNETT. I'M THE SAME ONE THAT WAS HERE LAST YEAR, SPEAKING ON RETIREMENT AND TAX CREDITS. SO I'M VERY MUCH FORWARD AND A LOT OF OUR DISPATCHERS ARE FORWARD AND FOR THIS RESOLUTION SEVEN YEARS AGO , WE DID NOT HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE NOW RABBIT S. O S AS A INTEGRATED SOFTWARE THAT WORKS THROUGH OUR PHONE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS US LIKE BASICALLY UBER TECHNOLOGY ON PINPOINTING SOMEONE TO THEIR EXACT SPOT. SEVEN YEARS AGO, A CALL CAME IN AND WE WERE PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE SCREAMING FOR HELP, AND WE HAVE NO IDEA IT WOULD TAKE SO LONG. TECHNOLOGY IS SO IMPORTANT TO US. WHEN PEOPLE PICK UP THE PHONE. THEY WANT RESULTS THEY DON'T WANT. WELL. WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? WHERE I CAN'T FIND WHERE YOU'RE AT A WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY EXPECT THAT SO THAT'S WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY ARE. WHEN IT COMES TO HIRING, WHICH THIS IS INCLUDED. HIRING IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE RETENTION IS A PROBLEM. IT IS VERY HARD TO DO THIS JOB AND NOT EVERYBODY IS CUT OUT WITH IT AND THEY COULD GET THROUGH THE ACADEMY. GET OUT ON THE FLOOR, BE DOING A GREAT JOB AND SUDDENLY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS? JUST NOT FOR ME. IT'S TOO STRESSFUL. I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS EVERY DAY. SO RETAINING THE PEOPLE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IS ALSO JUST AS IMPORTANT AS HIRING PEOPLE, BUT AS ALSO STATED IN THERE AND PROPOSAL. UM THERE IS AN ADEQUATE SEES IN THE AMOUNT OF NUMBERS THAT WE ARE HAVING HOW, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO ANSWER THE PHONE. THOSE INADEQUACIES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED NOT ONLY BY HIRING NEW PEOPLE, BUT BY INCREASING THE SHIFT MINIMUMS FOR EACH SHIFT THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. SO THERE ARE MORE

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DISPATCHERS, NOT IN GENERAL, BUT ON THAT SHIFT, ANSWERING THOSE CALLS. SO AGAIN. I'M HERE TOO.

TO, UM. SAY I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'M I'M ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT IT'S ONLY A DOLLAR 75. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD PAY MORE. I KNOW THERE'S A LAW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. TIBBS 35 45 OLD LEVEL ROAD HABIT OF GRACE. I'M NOT HERE. I'M KIND TO JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO OUR DISPATCHERS AND CHECK OUT THE PROTOCOL. WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE DIFFICULTY RIGHT NOW. AS I UNDERSTAND, UH GETTING RID OF GETTING PEOPLE ON THE ROAD FOR AMBULANCES. I CAN CITE ONE LAST WEEK. IT HAPPENED AT OUR FARM. WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE. YOU GOT HURT. MY WIFE WAS SCARED TO DEATH. SHE CALLED AN AMBULANCE. I WASN'T HOME. I CAME HOME, SHE SAYS, GET UP HERE. WE GOT A NAME WAS ON THE WAY, SO I LOOKED I SAID, WELL, HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN? SHE SAYS I SPENT A COUPLE OF THREE MINUTES. YOU KNOW HOW TIME GOES BY. AND SO HERE COMES VOLUNTEERS IN FROM LEVEL IN THEIR CARS. HERE COMES AN THE LEVEL AMBULANCE IN FOLLOWED BY A AMBULANCE FROM HARVARD GRACE.

FOLLOWED BY A COUNTY AMBULANCE. COMING UP THE ROAD AND COMING IN , SO THERE'S THREE AMBULANCES ON ONE CALL. WITHIN I DON'T KNOW. FIVE OR SIX MINUTES. AND THE FELLOW FROM LEVEL SAYS WE DID NOT GET THE CALL. IT'S LESS THAN A MILE FROM MY HOUSE. SO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, WE NEED TO CHECK THE PROTOCOL AT FIRE HEADQUARTERS AND CHECK THINGS OUT. I WAS THE M T FOR OVER 30 YEARS. I AM UNDERSTAND THE PREDICAMENT THAT THEY'RE IN. I DO SUPPORT UH, SOME OF THE FUNDING BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE GOTTA LOOK WITHIN BEFORE WE GO WAY OUTSIDE. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, MR TIPS. ANYONE ELSE ? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS. MR. PRESIDENT MR AYERS WITH SOME POINT WHERE YOU REACH OUT TO MR TIBBS. THANK YOU. WITH NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION 22-23. IF I MAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER LEGISLATIVE

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SESSION DAY 23-0 12 ASKED YOU TO PLEASE JOIN US IN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE AND THE FOLLOWING PRAYER BY COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG STATES OF AMERICA REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OUR HEADS. DEAR LORD, HEAR OUR PRAYER AS WE COME BEFORE YOU SOFTEN OUR HEARTS DURING THIS TIME, WHERE THERE'S SO MUCH PAIN AND SUFFERING EXISTS IN THE WORLD. RECENTLY THE U. S SENATE CHAPLAIN. FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS, BARRY BLACK URGE LAWMAKERS AFTER THE NASHVILLE SHOOTING. SCHOOL SHOOTING TO QUOTE MOVED BEYOND THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. BECAUSE QUOTE THERE COMES A TIME WHEN ACTION IS REQUIRED. AND TALKING NEEDS TO STOP. I AGREE. HE ALSO SAID, ETERNAL GOD, WE STAND AT ALL WITH YOU. MR BLACK PRAYED LORD WHEN THE FOLLIES WHEN THE BABIES DIE AT THE CHURCH SCHOOL AT HIS TIME FOR US TO MOVE BEYOND THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS REMIND OUR LAWMAKERS OF THE WORDS OF THE BRITISH STATEMENT EVERY BLACK THAT ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING.

AMEN. AMEN. YEAH. COUNCIL IF I MAY, I WAS JUST ADVISED THAT ARE CLOSED. CAPTIONING IS NOW WORKING LIVE. I'M VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THAT MY SEND MY CONGRATULATIONS TO NOT ONLY OUR STAFF IN THE HOUSE BUT ALSO THE IT DEPARTMENT FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO WELCOME COUNCILMAN BENNETT BACK TO THIS. IT'S A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. AND WITH

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THAT, I'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS. BUT PRIOR TO THAT, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MISS CATHY MCFADDEN. LAURA METS AND ANYONE ELSE THAT'S WITH YOU THIS EVENING COME FORWARD TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON FAIR HOUSING MONTH. HMM.

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WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, MAN. GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. GOOD EVENING, OKAY? YES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND CITY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. WE THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME TONIGHT BEFORE YOU TO CELEBRATE THE NATIONAL FAIR HOUSING MONTH. I'M KATHY MCFADDEN, THE CEO OF THE HARFORD COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS. I THINK ALL OF YOU PRETTY MUCH KNOW US. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE BRIANA STEVENS. SHE'S THE CHAIR OF OUR INCLUSIVE.

DIVERSITY EQUITY AND AWARENESS COMMITTEE, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE IDEA COMMITTEE SHOULD BE TALKING TONIGHT ABOUT HOW OUR ASSOCIATION TRIES TO ENSURE THAT THE MEMBERS AND THE RESIDENTS OF HARTFORD COUNTY FAIR HOUSING THANK YOU SO MUCH, CATHY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, KATHY AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL FOR INVITING THE HARFORD COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS HERE TONIGHT. UM SO AS YOU JUST HEARD, APRIL IS FAIR HOUSING MONTH AND BEGINNING WITH THE FAIR HOUSING ACT IN 1968. CONGRESS BEGAN, UH PUTTING IN PLACE. SEVERAL PROTECTED CLASSES . UM AND THIS WAS DUE TO AT THE TIME. SO MANY DISPARITIES THAT WERE IN THE SELLING AND RENTING OF HOUSING. SINCE THEN, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY. THE STATE OF MARYLAND AS WELL AS HARTFORD COUNTY. HAVE UH, ADDED ONTO THAT AND HAVE ADDED PROTECTED CLASSES. SO IN LIEU YVETTE AND SPIRIT OF THAT THE HARFORD COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS HAS A FAIR HOUSING TASK FORCE.

IN OUR FAIR HOUSING TASK FORCE EVERY YEAR INVITES SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN TO PARTICIPATE IN A FAIR HOUSING POSTER CONTEST. THIS YEAR. THE THING FOR OUR FAIR HOUSING POSTER CONTEST WAS, WILL YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR? SO WE WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO JUST THANK ALL OF THE STUDENTS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THAT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE APPRECIATED. UM AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT. TWO. THERE WERE OVER 80 80 CHILDREN OR 90 CHILDREN WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS WE WANT WE WANT TO COME FORWARD. WE WANT TO INVITE FORD ARE FIVE WINNERS. TO BE RECOGNIZED. SO FOR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL, FIRST PLACE WAS CAMERON ALMOND. FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CATEGORY. FIRST PLACE IS OLIVIA CHIN. SECOND PLACE. AMINA SURGEON. THIRD PLACE PAUL KNOCKS . AND FOR HONORABLE MENTION. WE HAVE GRAY LYNNE GILLIAN. AND WE ALSO HAVE A WAVERLY PET. UH PERSON SHE WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT. ALSO ON THESE PICTURES , WE GOT TO GRADE THEM ALL. AND UM, IT WAS AMAZING. A LOT OF THEM WERE IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES THEY HAD. I THINK THIS ONE RIGHT HERE HAD DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SO THAT IT WAS REALLY COOL. UM, I WAS SO AMAZED. WHAT ARE CHILDREN WERE ABLE TO DO AND WE HAVE THEM ALL OVER OUR WALLS IN THE ASSOCIATION OFFICE. SO PRESIDENT MANCINI COME BY AND SEE HIM OKAY, ALRIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION REAL QUICK. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ IN THIS PROCLAMATION. IF LADIES YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN ME UP FRONT WHEREAS APRIL 2ND 2023 MARKS THE 55TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE PASSAGE OF THE US FAIR HOUSING LAW TITLES, UH, EIGHT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1968 AS AMENDED. WHICH.

NANCY EIGHT'S A NATIONAL POLICY OF FAIR HOUSING WITH THE REGARD TO RACE, COLOR, CREED, NATIONAL ORIGIN, SEX, FAMILIAR STATUS AND HANDICAP AND ENCOURAGES FAIR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS THE HARFORD COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS HAS COMMITTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FAIR HOUSING LAW TITLE EIGHT THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1968 BY CONTINUING TO ADDRESS DISCRIMINATION AND COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT WILL EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE

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RIGHT TO EQUAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND TO PLAN PARTNERSHIP EFFORTS WITH THEIR ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP ASSURE EVERY AMERICAN OF THE RIGHT TO FAIR HOUSING NOW. THEREFORE WE CANNOT COUNCIL OF HARFORD COUNTY , MARYLAND, ON THIS 11TH DAY OF APRIL, 2023 TO HEAR BY PROCLAIM FAIR HOUSING MONTH APRIL 2023, WHICH BEGINS A YEARLONG COMMEMORATION OF US FAIR HOUSING LAW AND HARTFORD COUNTY AND URGES ALL CITIZENS TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY RECOGNIZE THIS CELEBRATION. THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. AMAZING SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU ON YOUR ARTWORK. UM MUCH BETTER THAN I COULD HAVE DONE. I'M SURE SO CONGRATULATIONS, CATHY. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE SERVICES THAT YOU PROVIDE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AND CONGRATULATIONS. LET'S SAY SOMETHING. THIS IS REALLY A GREAT MOMENT WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY COMMITTED TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT FAIR HOUSING IS ALL ABOUT. YOU SHOULD SEE OUR WALL. WE HAVE 90 PICTURES 80 OR 90 PICTURES ALL OVER THE WORLD. THEY ARE AMAZING. ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD AND NOT TOO LONG AGO. UM, ABOUT AN ARTIST. ASK ADULTS HOW MANY OF YOU CAN DRAW NOBODY RAISED THEIR HAND. THEY ASKED HIGH SCHOOLERS. HOW MANY OF YOU CAN DRAW? NOBODY RAISED THEIR HAND, MAYBE ONE OR TWO. THEY ASKED GRADE SCHOOL, JUNIOR HIGH, SEVERAL RAZOR AND THE DANCE THE KINDERGARTENERS AND THEY ALL RAISED THEIR HANDS. THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO GET BACK TO, AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO DRAW AND ACTUALLY MAKING SOMETHING OUT OF THIS. THAT IS AMAZING. LOOK AT THESE PICTURES . IF THEY CAN WALK AROUND THE ROOM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STOP BY OUR ASSOCIATION OFFICE AND SEE THESE PICTURES. IT IS TRULY AMAZING.

THEY ARE THEY WILL BE PUT OUT ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE. I THINK THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE A COUPLE TIMES SO PLEASE LOOK AT IT. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HIM. THANK YOU. PHOTOGRAPH OF COURSE PICTURE OF CAMERON. SHE'S MY STUDENT AROUND. YES. THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALWAYS BEING PLEASURE.

STAND NEXT TO HER. SHE'S TIRED. AND YOU, JACOB. MISS KINDERGARTEN. SO I'M STANDING UP HERE. THANK YOU. THE HAMBURGER. HELP IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. YEAH. YES MA'AM. OKAY, GUYS, YOU WANT TO STAY UP HERE ALL NIGHT? THAT'S A PIG COUNCIL . YES I'LL GET SOMETHING DONE.

AS YOU HEARD EARLIER. THIS IS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS WEEK. AND UM, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MR AYERS AND MR WOODS, MR BRENNAN. COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

HE WASN'T THERE. COULDN'T GET ENOUGH. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY SO AGAIN. A LOT ABOUT THE NON ONE CENTER TONIGHT. BACK IN THE 19 NINETIES CONGRESS RECOGNIZED THIS WEEK AS THE NATIONAL TELE COMMUNICATOR WEEK AND UM, MY CAREER IN HARTFORD COUNTY SPANS 39 YEARS WITH THE 911 CENTER, AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT I FELT LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE NOMINAL ONE CENTER ARE REALLY THE YOUNG SONG HEROES. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS BAD TODAY. AS WHAT IT WAS 20 OR 25 YEARS AGO. I THINK MORE PEOPLE ARE REALIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT ARE PEOPLE DOING THE 911 CENTER , BUT I WANT TO THANK DEPUTY DIRECTOR BERNANKE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WOODS. OH ROSS COATS WHO MANAGES A NORMAL ONE CENTER, JOY CLARKE. UM SO ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN

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THEIR NOMINAL ONE CENTER. UM I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HAVING US HERE TONIGHT.

RECOGNIZE WHAT THEY DO, UM CERTAINLY I. I'M PREJUDICED BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN MY CAREER , BUT I REALLY DO THINK WE HAVE SO MANY OUTSTANDING PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THE NORMAL ONE CENTER.

THE PRESIDENT AND SUNNY CALLED ME TODAY AND WANTED ME TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH ALSO THE M S TRANSITION. DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT NOW? SO ALONG WITH THE IMPORTANCE OF ANSWERING THE NOMINAL ONE CALLS IS THE DISPATCHING OF THE FIRE POLICE AND E M S SERVICE AND I KNOW THAT UM, SOME OF YOU ARE AWARE OF ALL THE WORK WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW ON TRANSITIONING THE EMS SERVICE UNDER OUR DEPARTMENT. THAT KIND OF CAME TO US QUICKLY EARLIER THIS YEAR WHEN THE E. M S FOUNDATION THAT WAS FORMED, UH, RIGHT AFTER 9 11 BACK IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

AS A WAY TO SUPPLEMENT THE VOLUNTEERS AND HARTFORD COUNTY. IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO ONLY BE A SHORT GAP SOLUTION OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO SUPPLEMENT THE VOLUNTEERS FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. AND HERE WE ARE IN 20 23/20 YEARS LATER, UM THEY FINALLY CAME TO THE COUNTY AND SAID WE CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. WE REALLY NEED TO COUNTY TOO. STEP IN AND, UM TRANSITION THIS TO COUNTY GOVERNMENT SO UM, I PUT A TEAM TOGETHER IN FEBRUARY AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE'RE ONLY TWO MONTHS INTO THIS. AND IN THE MONTH OF APRIL, WE WILL HAVE TRANSITION FIVE. MEDIC UNITS FROM THAT TRANSITION INTO OUR FORCE. WE PUT OUR WE ALREADY HAD THREE COUNTY MEDIC UNITS AND SERVICE. SO THE ONE WE PUT IN SERVICE AT PFOSTEN THIS PAST SATURDAY. UM, WE NOW WILL HAVE EIGHT. COUNTY MEDIC UNITS AND SERVICE. AND TO MR TIBBS CONCERN AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT YET . CERTAINLY I WILL. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE FOUNDATION WAS STILL DOING WAS SOME STATIONS ONLY HAD A DRIVER. SOME STATIONS ONLY HAD AN E M T. SO WE WERE SENDING MULTIPLE UNITS FROM DIFFERENT STATIONS TO TRY TO PATRICK CREW TOGETHER. ONCE THIS TRANSITION IS COMPLETED.

THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE. WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE THIS FULLY ROLLED OUT, HOPEFULLY SOMETIME LATER THIS YEAR WILL HAVE 15 STAFF MEDIC UNITS IN THE COUNTY. AND, UM. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHALLENGE AHEAD. MY TEAM HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH BMS ALONG WITH THANKING OUR DISPATCH PERSONNEL . THANK YOU. COUNCIL JUST BRIEFLY, REAL QUICK. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? ALRIGHT OKAY, MR CHANDLER, NOW HOW MANY UNITS ARE THERE TOTAL E M S IN THE COUNTY? I KNOW. YOU SAID WE'RE GONNA HAVE 15. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE WITH ALL DAY? UM FOUNDATION. NOW. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE WERE AVERAGING ON ANY GIVEN DAY, ONLY SEVEN OR EIGHT STAMP MEDIC UNITS IN THE COUNTY. THE REASON WHY WE WERE HAVING SO MANY CHALLENGES AND WAYS IN RESPONSE. FROM THE TIME OF CALLS DISPATCH FROM THE NORMAL ONE CENTER, AND THIS IS WHY IT'S ALL CONNECTED. BUT BY THE TIME CALL IS DISPATCHED. THE NATIONAL STANDARD IS WE SHOULD HAVE AN AMBULANCE ON SCENE WITHIN EIGHT MINUTES. AND WE'RE NOT THERE WERE OVER EIGHT MINUTES, SO WE'RE HOPING AFTER WE FULLY TRANSITION THIS UNDER THE COUNTY. WE CAN GET UNDER THAT EIGHT MINUTE MARK, WHICH IS A NATIONAL STANDARD THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE. AND, UM I SEE GOOD THINGS AHEAD. BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 15 OR ARE WE GOING TO GO ABOVE 15? OR WHAT'S THE PLAN START WITH 15, WHICH ALSO WOULD INCLUDE US TRANSITIONING, UM. BEL AIR FIRE COMPANY, WHICH HAS THEIR OWN SERVICE. THEY'VE ASKED THE COUNTY TO TAKE THEIR OPERATION OVER TO MAGNOLIA HAD THEIR OWN SERVICE. THEY'VE ALREADY CAME TO US AND TOLD US THEY WANTED US TO TAKE THEIR SERVICE, THE ONLY ONE THAT WE STILL DON'T HAVE 100% COMMITMENT ON YET IS THE CITY OF ABERDEEN. KIND OF ABERDEEN. SO WE'RE WE MET WITH ABERDEEN FAR COMPANY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THEY'RE EVALUATING WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING IT YOURSELF OR WHETHER THEY WOULD WANT THE COUNTY. TO TAKE TAKE IT OVER.

BUT ONCE ONCE ALL OF THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED, INCLUDING THE THREE TOWNS. WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE 15 STAFF MEDIC UNITS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MR PENTON. UM THANK YOU, UM, FOR GOING INTO THE M S SIDE. THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION BETTER FOR MR STAINLESS THAN YOU AS FAR AS BUDGETARY CONCERNS. THE FOUNDATION WAS A COST TO THE COUNTY. AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY INCREASED

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COSTS, OR MAYBE IT'S COST NEUTRAL. BUDGET NEUTRAL. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ON INCREASED COST TO THE NEW SWIRLING AROUND EIGHT OR $9 MILLION A YEAR THAT WE WERE GIVING THE FOUNDATION TO OPERATE? UM CERTAINLY, THIS IS GOING TO COST THE COUNTY MORE THAN THAT EIGHT OR $9 MILLION, BUT WE I DIDN'T KNOW ROBBIE WAS STILL HERE. OKAY THANK YOU, MR AND I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE STILL HERE, EITHER. OKAY ROBBIE. OKAY AND I DON'T DO NOT HAVE, UM , DO NOT HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS, UM, IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I DO THINK THAT WITH THE INCREASED BILLION AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS AT A LATER DATE WITH THE BUILDING COMING OVER TO THE COUNTY SIDE, UM, THAT THAT A LOT OF THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS WILL BE SOMEWHAT MUTED. BUT THERE IT IS GOING TO BE AGAIN AND AN INCREASE IN OVERALL EXPENDITURES, AND A LOT OF IT WILL BE ONE TIME EXPENDITURES HAS BEEN KIND OF TRYING TO GET GET UP TO SPEED AND WE'LL BE BRINGING FORTH A RESOLUTE, UM, A BUDGET TRANSFER SOON TO TRY TO CAPTURE A LOT OF THOSE ONE TIME COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS THIS YEAR BEFORE WE GO INTO AN ONGOING UM KIND OF RECURRING COSTS IF YOU WILL, AND ASSUMING THE ONE CARD ONE TIME CALLS FOR AMBULANCES, AMBULANCES WE KNOW I MEAN, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF LOOKING AT AT, UM PURCHASING AMBULANCES, WHETHER THEY'RE NEW WHETHER THEY'RE USED, UM AND SO THERE IS THERE WILL BE SOME CONSIDERABLE ONE TIME COSTS AS WE MORE OR LESS STAFF A COMPLETELY NEW OPERATION ALMOST FROM THE GROUND UP. DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE AND WHEN THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE AS FAR AS ANY OF THE INCREASE ITS WELL. WE'LL DEFINITELY NEED A BUDGET TRANSFER BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. IN ORDER TO FACILITATE ALL THIS, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT WILL BE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THAT LEGISLATION OVER HERE FOR TO BE INTRODUCED NEXT WEEK, HOPEFULLY, WHICH WOULD THEN MEAN THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE A WHAT WOULD THAT BE THE THIRD THIRD MONDAY IN MAY. MORE THAN LIKELY, UM SO I SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. I HEARD WHEN I WAS OUT THERE SATURDAY, SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, TAKING PICTURES ABOUT ACQUIRING AMBOS. AREN'T WE ACQUIRING THE AMBOS THAT THE VOLUNTEERS HAVE SO THAT IS THAT IS PART OF THIS. WE'RE PURCHASING AMBULANCES FROM THE VOLUNTEER PARK. AND WHAT WOULD THEY DO WITH THEM IF YOU DIDN'T PURCHASE THEM? SO SOME OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES ARE STILL GOING TO TRY TO MAINTAIN VOLUNTEER CREWS. WE DON'T WANT TO DO AWAY WITH VOLUNTEERS OF SOME OF THE PARK COMPANIES THAT STILL HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT WANT TO RIDE. WE WAS THE ONLY STIPULATION IS THEY HAVE TO HAVE A VOLUNTEER CREW IN THE STATION.

LETTER DISPATCH CENTER. NO, THEY'RE ATTENDED. DISPATCH THEM AS A VOLUNTEER CREW. OKAY THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE PARTS COMPANIES WILL KEEP THEIR AMBULANCES THANK DRINK. DREAM. TRAINED SO, GENTLEMEN, IF YOU WILL JOIN ME UP FRONT, PLEASE. ALL OF YOU, PLEASE. MISS CLARK. I UNDERSTAND. UNDERSTAND, PLEASE. HMM. AFTER YOU HEAR THE THREE. HMM OKAY, YOU SHOULD HAVE WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS HAVE UNITED STATES HAVE ESTABLISHED THE SECOND WEEK OF APRIL EACH YEAR AS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATION WEEK AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR HUNDREDS OF CITIZENS AND VISITORS TO HARFORD COUNTY CALLED 911 TO SUMMON HELP FOR EMERGENCIES, SUCH AS DWELLING FIRES, MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, MEDICAL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT RELATED EMERGENCIES , AND WHEREAS THE HARTFORD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AS A WELL TRAINED, HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL TEAM OF DISPATCHERS WORKING IN THE 911 CENTER. AND WHEREAS PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS ARE THE SINGLE VITAL LINK BETWEEN RESPONDING LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE AND E M S PERSONNEL BY MONITORING THE RADIO TRAFFIC THAT'S PROVIDING THEM VALUABLE INFORMATION TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY AND WELL BEING NOW THEREFORE WE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARTFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND, ON THIS 11TH DAY OF APRIL, 2023. TWO HEREBY PROCLAIM NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS WEEK. APRIL 9TH THROUGH THE 15TH 2023 THE ENTIRE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARFORD COUNTY. THANKS ALL THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND DISPATCHERS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM AND KEEPING THE CITIZENS OF HARTFORD COUNTY SAFE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. UM YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY, MANY TIMES ABOUT THE VALUE THAT OUR DISPATCHERS BRING TO THIS PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE COUNTY, AND YOU HIT IT. UNSUNG HEROES. THAT'S IT . UM SO I KNOW THAT WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE OPPORTUNITIES EVERY NOW AND THEN TO VISIT THE YOU SAY. DO YOU EVER OPENED IT TO PUBLIC? FOR THEM TO COME. DO TOURS, UM, THAT WE CAN BE PART OF. SO YEAH. FOR

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TOUR GROUP WANTS TO COME AND SEE THE NUMBER ONE CENTER. WE CAN ARRANGE THAT. THEY JUST NEED TO CALL AND LET US KNOW. I THINK IT'S AH, EXTREMELY VALUABLE TO MOST OF OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FIRSTHAND TO WALK IN AND SEE THE CAPABILITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY WHEN WE WENT TO MAKE OH, AND WE SAT UP THIS PAST. I GUESS THEY WERE LAST SUMMER. ACTUALLY WE HAD HARFORD COUNTY SET UP IN OCEAN CITY. TAKING CALLS, LIVE CALLS AND DISPATCH AND BACK HERE IN THE COUNTY IS JUST ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO EACH ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU. AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. JOE.

I CAN'T BELIEVE I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE GREAT OKAY. THANK YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK. YEAH I GOT SOME GOOD KICK HIM OUT OF THE TABLE. HERE WE GO. CAN I ACTUALLY HAVE THE WHOLE BACK ROAD? A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE MR BENNETT BETWEEN THESE TWO AND SO ON.

MR BENNETT NEEDS TO GET THICKER SOLES. SURE OKAY. DEALS BOX TO STAND ON.

CHEESE OFF THE HAMBURGER BE CHEAPER. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS. WE HAVE NONE SIX SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE NONE. SEVEN APPROVAL OF MINUTES . PUBLIC HEARING APRIL 4TH 2023 LEGISLATIVE DAY 23-0 11 APRIL

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4TH 2023. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? THERE BEING NO CORRECTIONS. THE

[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS]

MINUTES STAND APPROVED. TONIGHT AND NUMBER EIGHT INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION 0 18, MASTER WATER AND SEWER PLANT UPDATE SPRING 2023 MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ZERO ONE 8-23. YOU HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN. SECONDED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION. 0 18-23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE PENMAN. MR JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY. MR BENNETT. I THEY'RE BEING SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ONE ABSENT THE AMENDMENTS OR THE RESOLUTION. 0 18 23 IS HEREBY APPROVED. RESOLUTION 0 1923 M S FOR FINANCIAL ASSURANCE PLAN 2023 MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION ZERO ONE. 9-23 MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. IT'S BEEN MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION. 0 19-23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR BENNETT. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT I DID REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TODAY TO CLARIFY, UM YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE HAVING MORE RETIREES THAN EXPECTED? I'M JUST TOO IN ENSURE THAT IT WASN'T DUE TO LIKE WE'RE EXPECTING TO IS IT IS THIS THE WRONG I APOLOGIZE. I GOT MY NUMBERS MIXED UP. THAT'S QUITE ALRIGHT. QUITE ALRIGHT. AND MY CHAIR WAS DUSTY. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A SECOND SHOT. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO. MR. RILEY MR. BENNETT BEING SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ONE ABSENT RESOLUTION, 0 1923 IS HEREBY APPROVED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE INTRODUCTION TO BILLS WE HAVE NONE 10 INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE NONE. 11 CALL FOR FINAL

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READING OF BILLS BUILT 23-7. SPECIAL PAYS MAY HAVE EMOTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVED TO APPROVE BILL 23-7. WE HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IN A SECOND TO APPROVE BILL 23-7. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR BENNETT? GO. ALRIGHT, SO I DID REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY

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EXECUTIVE TODAY JUST TO CLARIFY , YOU KNOW WHY ARE WE HAVING MORE RETIREES THAN EXPECTED? IS IT THAT WE'RE INCENTIVIZING IT? ARE WE TRYING TO SHRINK THE DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, UM, WITH THE BUDGET COMING UP VERY SHORTLY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE UM, THAT WE HAD CLARITY ON THAT, AND HE ASSURED ME IT'S NOT ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, UM, THAT IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE AT RETIREMENT, AND YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS GET THAT NUMBER EXACTLY RIGHT WHEN YOU BUILD A BUDGET, AND THAT'S THE CASE HERE, SO I WAS GLAD TO BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT, AND THAT MADE ME A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE LOOKING AT THIS. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO. HI, MR RILEY. MR BENNETT. FOR BEING SIX. VIRGINIA AFFIRMATIVE. ONE ABSENT BUILT 23-7 IS HEREBY APPROVED. THE

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GENERAL ITEM 12 IN ROMAN OF BILLS. BILL 23-7 APPROPRIATION SPECIAL PAYS THE CERTIFIES AS BEING THE TEXT FINALLY PASSED. 13 UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE. 14 NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE

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NONE. 17 COMMENTS FROM INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS. YES MR PRESIDENT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SEVEN THIS EVENING. VERY WELL AGAIN. UM AS I'VE ALWAYS SAID. UM BE MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME AND RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER. CALL YOUR FIRST SPEAKER JEANNINE LOCKE, OR FOLLOWED BY HOLLY MCCOMAS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. JEANNINE LOCKE OR 18 20 PARK BEACH DRIVE IN PERRIMAN, AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT TO A LOT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, FOR THROUGH THE PAST MONTH OR SO I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTY. UM AND ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STATE, AND, UM ONE THING THAT AS A REOCCURRING THEME IS, PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY. UM THERE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT AN EXCESSIVE. UM UM, AMOUNT OF TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT ARE ON OUR ROADS. AND I'VE EVEN HAD PEOPLE AGAIN. I'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE STATE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT IT JUST KEEPS COMING UP, AND IT'S BEEN COMMENTED ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL AND PRISTINE HARFORD COUNTY HAS BEEN AND RECOGNIZING THAT HARFORD COUNTY IS SOMEWHAT OUT OF THE POINT AT A CUP. OF WHERE DO WE WANT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNTY TO GO AND, UM, WE CAN CONTINUE ON THIS PATH THAT WE'VE BEEN ON CREATING, UM, JUST HORRIBLE. CONDITIONS FOR THE CITIZENS, UM OR WE CAN PAUSE AND STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IS IT? WHAT KIND OF LEGACIES DO WE WANT TO LEAVE FOR THE GENERATIONS BEHIND US? UM WHERE PAVING OVER , UM, HISTORIC PROPERTY. AT THE EXPENSE OF, UM OUTSIDE INTERESTS WHO HAVE NO INTEREST IN WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN THE CAFE. I WAS AT THE HARTFORD TO 50 CELEBRATION AND OUR THREE P WAS INUNDATED WITH CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHO WERE CONCERNED WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTY MUNICIPALITIES ARE TALKING ABOUT PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE HAVING, UM , WITH OVERSIZED TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THEIR ROADS. SO IT'S JUST AN EXCESSIVE PROBLEM THAT IS THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY. UM WE HAVE CHOICES, AND WE CAN MAKE REALLY HARD CHOICES NOW. UM THAT WILL HAVE A LONG LASTING UM, UM, IMPACT. FOR OUR FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. UM AND WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE A TOP OF MIND ARE THE CITIZENS THE VOICES OF THE CITIZENS? UM IT'S WONDERFUL THAT AS PERRIMAN WE HAVE AN ELECTIVE OFFICIAL NOW REPRESENTING US, SO WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT PROCESS. I KNOW IT WAS A DIFFICULT PROCESS. SO THANK YOU, JACOB. UM BUT OUR VOICES NEED TO BE HEARD. AND OUR VOICES ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN AS I SAID, OUTSIDE INTERESTS, SO I REALLY JUST RESPECT OR RESPECTFULLY ASKED THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL UM SET ASIDE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS, UM, AND LOOK AT THE FACTS. UH LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE'RE CREATING HERE IN THE COUNTY AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT YOUR LEGACY. TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. EVENING HOLLY MCCOMAS 18 26 PARK BEACH DRIVE. ABERDEEN. I WAS DRIVING

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ALONG DEPLORABLE, PART FILLED ROAD, WHICH CROSSES THE B AND O ROAD. I'M SORRY. BEING A RAILROAD TRACK THAT WAS ABINGDON ROAD. HAVING BEEN ROAD AT THE END OF ROUTE. 40 IS THE CROSS STREET THERE. UM THE BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. HAS A RESTRICTED SIGN. IT, SAYS SINGLE UNIT £20,000. COMBO UNIT £36,000. AND I'VE SEEN THIS MANY TIMES I'VE GROWN UP THERE. AND LIKE I THOUGHT TO MYSELF WHAT AFTER SEEING MANY TRACTOR TRAILERS DRIVING OVER THIS BRIDGE. A SEMI PULLING AN EMPTY TRAILER. IS ESTIMATED AT £3500. EMPTY. LOADED IT'S TYPICALLY £80,000. I GET THIS. I LOOKED UP FOUR DIFFERENT WEBSITES TO GET THAT TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND IT ALL. THEY WERE ALL THE SAME. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO GO BY. THIS IS A BRIDGE. UM THAT HAS THESE RESTRICTIONS. THE TRACTOR TRAILERS DRIVE OVER REGULARLY, UM THE BRIDGE IS IN NEED OF REPAIRS. LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY . I CAN'T TELL YOU THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT THE BRIDGE NEEDED REPAIRS. WE'RE GOING BACK YEARS. THAT PROJECT WAS PUSHED BACK BECAUSE OF ANOTHER PROJECT ON ROUTE SEVEN, WHICH IS PUSHED BACK ANOTHER TIME BECAUSE OF THE OTHER PROJECT. UM OVER TOP OF 95 ON ABINGDON ROAD. UM. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THAT BRIDGE TO CRUMBLE WITH A TRACTOR TRAILER ON IT? AND A TRAIN UNDERNEATH CARING. WHO KNOWS WHY. THIS IS MY TOWN. AND THIS IS MY CONCERN.

ESPECIALLY AFTER HEARING THE NEWS WITH OTHER TRAINS AND ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.

THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NOT SUPPORT THE CURRENT TRAFFIC IN PERRIMAN AND SURROUNDING AREAS. AND I'VE SAID THIS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S HEARD. THIS WAS TOLD TO US BY LAW ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICALLY SAID THEY CANNOT ENFORCE LAWS DUE TO INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT IS NOW. THE FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS OF HARFORD COUNTY. KEEP GETTING BIGGER, WHILE NOTHING HAPPENS TO IMPROVE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS TRYING TO SUPPORT IT. IN OUR SURVEY 93% OF THOSE SURVEYED DO NOT FEEL SAFE DRIVING ON THE ROADS IMPAIRMENT . THAT'S JUSTIN PERRIMAN, AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE IF YOU TAKE THAT SURVEY OUTSIDE OF PERRIMAN.

I'VE GIVEN YOU SEVERAL OF THE OTHER STATISTICS FROM OUR SURVEY, BUT AFTER LISTENING TO WHAT? WHAT WHAT WAS HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE 911 IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THOSE 911 IMPROVEMENTS. BECAUSE THE ROADS THE INCREASING, UM UNREALIZED. APPROVED CONSTRUCTION ALREADY WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM MORE THAN EVER. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THE 911 IMPROVEMENTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

JOHN MALLAMO, FOLLOWED BY HENRY GIBBONS. COMPLETED. YEAH. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. SURE. GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES. JOHN PEMA LHAMO 24 02 EAGLE VIEW DRIVE. CHAPTER TWO WHEN THE CODE IS INCONVENIENT, IGNORE IT. THE MISCHIEF BEGINS. AIRPORT OWNERS GROUP SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO OPERATE A JOURNAL AVIATION AIRPORT PERMITTED USE ON OCTOBER 16TH 2013 ZONING CASE 58 14. THE SECONDARY PURPOSE WAS TO OBTAIN APPROVAL OF THE EXPANSION PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE PERMITTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT FOR A PERMITTED USE. WE NOTE THAT THE APPLICATION WAS FOR AN AIRPORT AND ONLY FOR THE AIRPORT PROPERTY AT 35 38 ALBINO ROAD. THE COMMERCIAL OPERATION WAS NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION. THERE ARE NO APPROACH AND LANDING PADS AND NO ACCESSORY USES, AND ONLY ONE RUNWAY MAY APPROVED LAYOFF PLAN WAS NOT SUBMITTED ON ITS FACE. THE APPLICATION WAS INCOMPLETE. THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING CONSIDER ONLY THE APPLE. THE INFORMATION IN THE APPLICATION AND COMPARED THE APPLICATION WITH THE CODE AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL STATEMENT ON OPERATIONS WITHIN THE AG AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. APPLICANTS SUBMITTED A PLAN ENTITLED OPERATION EXHIBIT, WHICH DETAILS OF PROPOSED COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS WITHIN THE AG AND G I DISTRICTS A TOTAL OF 62% OF THE COMMERCIAL AIRPORT OPERATION WILL BE LOCATED IN THE GI DISTRICT. THE REMAINING 38 WILL BE LOCATED IN THE AG DISTRICT. STATEMENT ON ACCESSORY USES APPROPRIATE AIRPORT ACCESSORY USES, SUCH AS RESTAURANTS, SNACK BARS, AUTOMOBILE RUNNING AGENCIES, AIRLINE BUSINESS OFFICES AND SERVICE FACILITIES, BUT NOT OTHER BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIAL USES, MAY BE

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PERMITTED STATEMENT ON APPROACH AND LANDING PADS. THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN ALL APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL PERMITS TO CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE THE AIRPORT. THE AIRPORT SHALL BE OPERATING IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL THE PICKLE BALL, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS CONCERNING THE OPERATION. PUBLIC USE AIRPORT STATEMENT ON FUELING AIRCRAFT AND A FULLY ENCLOSED BUILDING APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT NUMEROUS HANGERS FOR THE SHORT STORAGE OF AIRCRAFT ON THE SITE. COMMERCIAL MAINTENANCE AND SERVICING SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED WITHIN THOSE HANGERS. THAT MEET THE 200 FT SETBACK REQUIREMENT HAS SHOWN IN THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN ENTITLED SPECIAL EXTRA X. SPECIAL EXCEPTION EXHIBIT. THE STAFF REPORT WAS SIGNED BY THE CHIEF OF SITE PLANNING AND BUILDING PERMITS REVIEW MR SHANE P. GRIMM WHO IS NOW THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING. THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR WHO HAS SINCE RETIRED, ALSO SIGNED. RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL IS A GROCER AS RELATED TO THE COMMERCIAL OPERATION. IT IS NOT THE COMMERCIAL OPERATION PRESCRIBED IN THE ZONING CODE. IT IS AN UNAUTHORIZED CHANGE TO THE ZONING CODE AND DEFEATS ITS PURPOSE. IT EFFECTIVELY REDUCES THE SCOOP SCOPE OF THE COMMERCIAL OPERATION BY EXCLUDING APPROACH AND LANDING PATHS, ELIMINATES APPROACH AND LANDING PATH FROM CONSIDERATION APPROVAL, ACCESS AND USE. LIMITS THE OPERATION TO THE AIRPORT PROPERTY AT 35 38. ALL DINO COMPOUND ZONING AND LAND USE PROBLEMS AT THE AIRPORT, AND IT CONFUSES ZONING AND LAND USE PROCESSES IN HARFORD COUNTY. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. HENRY GIBBONS, 24 02 PAPAYA ROAD, EDWARD. UM JACOB, WELCOME BACK. COUNCIL INVENTED WELCOME BACK.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT F NOW HAVE PROPER REPRESENTATION. UM AND, UM YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THESE ARE SOMETIMES THESE ARE SOMETIMES HARD FOUGHT BATTLES. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THAT A LOT OF THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY VOTES ON THE IN THE LEGALS SPACE AND THE POLITICAL SPACE LATELY, AND I WAS COMFORTED TO SEE AND GLAD TO SEE YOUR PICTURE TODAY ON THE HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT PAGE WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. WHO WAS HIS? WE COMMEND FOR GRACIOUSLY ACCEPTING THE LEGAL VERDICT HANDED DOWN BY THE MARYLAND SUPREME COURT. IT'S. AND I WANT TO USE THAT AS KIND OF A MODEL FOR US. WE ARE ALL ENGAGED IN PITCHED BATTLES HERE. UM LEGAL AND POLITICAL AND ADVOCACY AND OTHERWISE, BUT ULTIMATELY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER. AND WE ALL HAVE TO RESPECT THE OUTCOME OF OUR POLITICAL INSTITUTIONS. WHETHER THOSE BR ELECTIONS WHETHER THOSE BE OUR LEGAL INSTITUTIONS, OUR JUDICIARY, UH AND WE HAVE TO DO SO GRACIOUSLY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T WE'RE IN VERY SERIOUS TROUBLE. AND SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO'S INVOLVED IN THIS FOR THEIR FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN THAT IN THAT FIGHT AND COMMEND EVERYBODY FOR PURSUING PURSUING THIS THROUGH THE CHANNELS THAT ARE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AS A CITIZENRY IT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GLAD THE OUTCOME CAME OUT THE WAY IT DID. UM, AND WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE RESPECTING THAT. AS AS THE LEGAL OUTCOME OF THAT OF THAT PROCESS, SO UM, I CHALLENGE ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM. TOGETHER TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE THINGS WILL TWEET FOR WHICH WE BELIEVE STRONGLY VERY GOOD CONTINGENT HERE FROM THE P THREE GROUP ARE DOING JUST THAT, UM WE SEE OTHER PEOPLE DOING THE SAME FOR OTHER CAUSES. AND I PROMISE WE WILL. I WILL DO THE SAME FOR THE CAUTIOUS THAT I ADVOCATE FOR BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ALL HAVE TO COME BACK. AND WILL YOU HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY? AND SO, UM, I CHALLENGE CHALLENGE EVERYBODY HERE AND I WILL ACCEPT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHENEVER I STEP OVER THE LINE. HOPEFULLY I DON'T BUT I CERTAINLY HOPE TO ADHERE TO THOSE STANDARDS MYSELF . SO WITH THAT, THANKS. I APPRECIATE IT. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, SIR. PAUL FOR LACI, FOLLOWED BY EMMA PELLER. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, PAUL PALOCCI, 3, 20, MARINA AVENUE AND PERRYMAN. UM I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME COUNCILMAN BENNETT BACK TO THIS IS GOOD TO SEE DISTRICT F SEAT FILLED THIS EVENING AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL STAY FILLED. UM AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. I LIKE THE TEAL IN YOUR TIE.

PRESIDENT VINCENTE LOOKS IT LOOKS GOOD. UM I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THIS EVENING. I WAS

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JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S GOING TO BE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS FOR THE COUNCIL IN JULY AND AUGUST. NO, SIR. WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY BEING ON SUMMER BREAK HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET. OKAY? THAT'S IT. THANKS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. EVENING PELLER 14 47 REDFIELD ROAD, BEL AIR. HELLO COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT. FIRST. I WANTED TO THANK YOU AND HARTFORD TV FOR ADDING THOSE LIVE CAPTIONS ONTO THE MEETING TONIGHT TO INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE COUNTY. I'M ALSO HERE TO ONCE AGAIN ASK YOU TO REVIEW PART ONE SECTION I SUBSECTION FOUR OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE. IF YOU'RE UNFAMILIAR, THE SECTION READS COMMENTS PERMITTED TO BE MADE BY CITIZENS DURING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17 ARE GENERALLY PERMISSIVE, EXCEPT THAT MATTERS WHICH ARE THE SUBJECT OF A PUBLIC HEARING, SUCH AS BILLS.

MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED UNTIL THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION DAY, WHICH FOLLOWS FINAL ACTION ON THE MATTER AND PENDING ZONING CASES MAY NOT BE ADDRESSED UNTIL CONCLUDED, AND THE EXPIRATION OF ALL APPEAL RIGHTS HAS OCCURRED. I STILL STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND. THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS PROCEDURE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE CAN COME IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BOOKS THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AN HTTPS LIBRARIES, WHICH IS NOT UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL. THEY CAN'T DISCUSS A BILL THAT WILL BE VOTED ON WITHIN THE MONTH. THAT TO ME IS JUST NOT YOU KNOW, OPEN PARTICIPATION, SO I ALWAYS TRY TO START MY COMMENTS THANKING THE COUNSEL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AND I TRULY DO APPRECIATE THE CHANCE. WHAT I'M ASKING IS YOU CONSIDER REVISING THIS TO MAKE IT A TRULY OPEN FORUM WHERE PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT THEIR GRIEVANCES THAT THEY HAVE AND ALSO UPCOMING LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR FELLER. AND BE MINDFUL OF THANK COUNTY I T DIVISION TWO BECAUSE THEY WERE A LARGE LARGE PART OF THIS BRINGING CLOSED CAPTIONING. TO BE. THANK YOU.

KATE MACDONALD. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MCDONALD, 2100 PARK BEACH DRIVE PYRAMID. WELCOME BACK. MR JACOB . WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE. LIKE OUR FIGHT. IT WAS A FIGHT THAT NEEDED TO BE FOUGHT. AND I'M GLAD IT CAME OUT. THE WAY IT DID. TONIGHT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. I THINK YOU WERE ALSO IN A VIDEO EARLIER THIS WEEK LAST WEEK, I CAN'T REMEMBER OF SITUATION OVER ON OLD POST ROAD. I WAS THE PERSON IN THE CAR. UM BUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE I STARTED ROLLING THE FOOTAGE. AND WHAT HAPPENED AFTER ? UM I SAT THERE FOR ABOUT 5 TO 7 MINUTES I CALLED ABERDEEN PD. AND LIKE SHE DOES, SHE SAYS.

WE'RE SENDING A UNIT OUT. I SAID. THAT'S GREAT. I SAID. I HAD A LINE OF CARS BEHIND ME. UH THE PEOPLE BECAUSE BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD WE'RE BACKED UP WITH ABOUT NINE TRUCKS ON EACH SIDE.

SO THE CARS BEHIND THE TRUCKS ON THE WESTBOUND LANE. WE'RE CUTTING AROUND COMING THROUGH AND THEN THE CARS BEHIND ME ONCE IT GOT CLEAR. WE'RE PASSING ME PRETTY QUICKLY TO GO ON THE EASTBOUND LANE TO CUT BACK OVER. HOPEFULLY YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, SINCE PUBLIC'S IDEAS SHOULD BE YOUR NUMBER ONE. ISSUE. MS MCDONALD. I CAN ASSURE YOU WATCH THE VIDEO. WE WATCHED IT WITH MEMBERS OF YOUR GROUP. GREAT. THANK YOU, UM SO ONCE I GOT BACK OVER AND I SAW THE TRUCK IN IN MY LANE, UM AND THERE WERE TWO CARS BEFORE ME. THAT'S WHEN I STOPPED ROLLING SO BECAUSE I HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO SO THE CARS IN FRONT OF ME, HOW'D YOU GO UP ON THE BERM TO GET AROUND THE TRUCK WHO THE TRUCK DRIVER WAS IRATE. FLIPPING US OFF. YOU KNOW, HE WAS VERY UPSET, UNDERSTANDABLY. SO HE WAS IN THE SAME PICKLE. WE WERE SO I GOT AROUND AND THEN I STOPPED AND I WAITED FOR THE POLICE TO SHOW UP ANOTHER 5 TO 7 MINUTES. SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF TIN 2 14 MINUTES THAT BOTH LANES ON THIS ROAD. WE'RE TIED UP. SO HAD AN AMBULANCE BEEN STUCK WHERE I WAS STUCK. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A SIGNIFICANT DELAY TO SOMEONE THAT'S WAITING ON EMERGENCY HELP. SO ALL THAT'S TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE TRUCKS ON OUR ROADS. THEY'RE NOT BUILT TO HANDLE WHAT WE HAVE. I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T SEE THAT I JUST I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE ANY WORDS FOR YOU. SO ANYWAY. THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD . GOOD NIGHT. YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY WORDS FOR SO THAT'S GOOD. THEY'RE ENORMOUS SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. THANK

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YOU, MISS DIXON. UM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16 BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I'M GOING TO START WITH MR BENNETT BECAUSE HE TELLS ME THAT HE'S OWED. HOW MUCH TIME AGAIN. WELL, LET'S SEE HOW MANY MEETINGS DID I MISS? UM SO ANYWAY, UM, I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE READY TO BE HERE TILL WEDNESDAY.

UM BUT I SHOULD BE QUICK. FIRST OFF. THANK YOU ALL. IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK. GLAD TO BE BACK IN MY ABSENCE. I WATCHED EVERY MEETING FROM HOME. UM IF HEATHER WAS CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT HER PHONE BECAUSE I WAS CONSTANTLY TEXTING HER TO WRITE SOMETHING DOWN. AND IT WAS IT WAS. YOU KNOW, IT WAS HARD PERIOD OF TIME, BUT I WAS CONSTANTLY ACTIVE IN ANY WAY I COULD BE AS A AS A CITIZEN, UM, DURING THAT TIME, BUT NOW WE HAVE A LOT TO DO. AND I HAVE TO HIT THE GROUND SPRINTING, NOT, YOU KNOW, CAN'T EVEN JUST JOG TO GET A LOT DONE IN THE NEXT WEEK. AND THEN THE WEEKS THAT FOLLOW UM, REAL QUICK. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SUSQUEHANNA, WHOSE COMPANY INSTALLATION AND AWARDS BANQUET. THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE EVENT. SPEAKING ABOUT SAFETY, UM WE WERE ABLE TO CELEBRATE THEM, UM SUSQUEHANNA, WHOSE COMPANY IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT SUPPORTS, UM HAVE A GRACE AND, UH AND THEY ARE RATED AS A CLASS ONE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THERE THE ONLY VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND THAT'S RATED AS CLASS ONE, AND THERE ARE PART OF A GROUP OF LESS THAN 250 FIRE DEPARTMENTS. VOLUNTEER WORK CAREER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UM , IN THE UNITED STATES, SO THEY'RE PART OF A GROUP OF LESS THAN 1% THAT ARE RATED THAT HIGH. WHICH IS JUST AMAZING. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW MY WIFE AND I PERSONALLY FEEL LUCKY. UM YOU KNOW, WE HEAR THEIR ALARM GO OFF CONSTANTLY BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN. BUT EVERY TIME WE HEAR THAT BELL, WE KNOW WE SEE THEIR TRUCKS GO BY INSTANTLY. IT'S THEIR RESPONSE.

TIME IS AMAZING. WE LEARNED THAT THEY HAVE OVER 40 VOLUNTEERS. ON AVERAGE RESPOND PER COAL, UM, AND MANY OF THEIR VOLUNTEERS RESPOND TO 600 PLUS CALLS A YEAR THEIR COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY. IS SECOND TO NONE. AND LIKE I TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW, UH, THEIR COMMITMENT TO US IS ONLY, UH, RESPONSIBILITY TO US TO BE COMMITTED TO THEM AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THEM OR, UM ARE ARE 911 DISPATCHERS. YOU KNOW THE FACT THAT IT'S EVEN A DEBATE OVER 75 CENTS. I JUST THINK IT'S PREPOSTEROUS. IT'S 75 CENTS, AND THEY MAKE IT SO WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY GETS HELP IN TIME. IT'S 75 CENTS, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, IT'S I ONLY EVEN THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION AT 75 CENTS, BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS A REALLY GREAT EVENT. WE GOT TO CELEBRATE.

DREW'S HIP LIT AND STEPHANIE DEAL WHO WERE THE FIREFIGHTER OF THE YEAR AND VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR. UM AND IT WAS JUST IT WAS REALLY FUN. UM SPEAKING OF SAFETY, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, I HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, UM I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN THE PAST WEEK WITH MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND ABERDEEN. UM I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IT'S REALLY A TRICKY SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CITY OF ABERDEEN, WHICH JUST MAKES IT HARD FOR US TO NAVIGATE . BUT I'M LOOKING AT HOW TO ADDRESS THAT SITUATION BECAUSE EVEN MOVING FORWARD IF WE NEVER WE NEVER HAD ANOTHER TRUCK TO HARFORD COUNTY. THAT ROAD IS UNACCEPTABLE AND IT'S AN UNSAFE SITUATION PRESENTLY WITHOUT ANYTHING ELSE, SO WE HAVE TO SOLVE THAT SITUATION, AND WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS IT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING ON. HEATHER AND I ARE WORKING TO FIND A WAY TO CONTACT . UM, YOU KNOW, C N S WHOLESALE GROCERS AND SET UP A MEETING WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY AND, UH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEIR OPERATIONS THAT KYLE'S TRUCKS TO CONSTANTLY BE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OUTSIDE OF THEM, UM ALSO JUST WORKING WITH ABERDEEN TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THEM GET SOME SOLUTIONS INTO THE WORKS? UM AND SO, JUST LOOKING FOR ANY ANGLE THAT WE CAN WORK ON TO GET SOMETHING GOING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVEN BEYOND THE MORATORIUM BEYOND WHATEVER LEGISLATION COMES NEXT. WE HAVE TO SAVE THAT ROAD. MAKE IT SAFE SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN GET TO AND FROM YOUR HOUSE. FOREVER IN A SAFE AND ORDERLY FASHION, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M WORKING ON. UM UH AND I WANT, YOU KNOW THAT'S A PRIORITY OF MINE THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT CAREFULLY, SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON IN THE PAST WEEK SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK IN OFFICE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR ME

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TODAY. WELL, THAT WAS NOT NEAR WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO MR RILEY. YES I'LL BE SURE MY WIFE IS BACK FROM ANNAPOLIS FOR 90 DAYS, SO SHE SHE WANTS MY PRESENCE FOR SOME REASON, BUT I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT. JESSICA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ON COUNTY COUNCIL. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, SIR. MR GENTRY, JANET. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. UM I'D ALSO LIKE TO THINK TEST CUT FOR YOUR SERVICE AND JACOB USED ALL MY TIME. SO I'M GONNA HAVE A PASS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNSEL, MR FELDMAN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT, HAVE A FEW THINGS TO DISCUSS. DISTRICT COUNCIL OFFICE HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BEAR TRAIL. AH AND WHEN IT WILL REOPEN THAT'S ALONG TOLLGATE ROAD ACROSS FROM EMERTON ELEMENTARY. THE TRAIL HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR NEARLY A YEAR BECAUSE FIVE OF THE 40 ACRES HAS BEEN CUT DOWN. MY OFFICE REACHED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH IS THE MARYLAND CENTER OF ARTS MYSELF AND LEGISLATED, SLIP SLIP. LEGISLATIVE AIDE JESSICA BLAKE. EXCUSE ME MET WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, DR BOB WILL AND BRICK ON THE PROPERTY TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROGRESS. WHILE IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, THE MARYLAND CENTER OF ARTS AND TENDS TO PRESERVE THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAIL TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE. THE MARYLAND CENTER OF ARTS IS IN CURRENT AND CURRENTLY IN THE PERMIT AND APPROVAL PROCESS AND HOPES TO RESUME CLEARING A PORTION OF THAT LOT FOR THE ARTS VENUE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I THOUGHT WHAT WAS UNIQUE ABOUT THE PROPERTY IS IT POSSESSES A SLAVE BURIAL SITE ON THE PROPERTY, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND THE ARCHAEOLOGISTS WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE ERROR BECAUSE OF THE STONES THAT WERE USED TO MARK THE GRAVES WERE TOO WE'RE NOT NATURAL TO THE AREA. THE BARREL SIGHT IS NOT NOT THE AREA THAT IS INTENDED TO BE CLEARED IN THE CENTER HOPES WILL PLANS TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE GROUNDS TO HONOR THE MEMORY OF THE ENSLAVED PEOPLE THERE. ALSO LAST WEEK WHEN MAJOR GENERAL EDMONDSON WAS GIVEN HIS ANNUAL REPORT. I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE UPDATE ON WOODLEY ROAD, UM, WHICH WOULD REDUCE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. THE GENERAL MENTIONED THAT HE WAS WAITING FOR THE COUNTY TO FINALIZE SOME OF THOSE THINGS. UM I SPOKE WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, JOE SEE MAC, WHO INDICATED THE COUNTY SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING OVER TO THE GENERAL EMERSON IN THE STAFF LATER THIS MONTH THIS MONTH, WHICH IS ENCOURAGING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, JESSICA BLAKE . JESSICA WAS PRESENT. UM HERE AT THE COUNCIL UNDER JOE WOODS IN MYSELF, AND NOW SHE HAS A GREAT CAREER OPPORTUNITIES. SO I CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNCIL. SHE'S BEEN, UH , A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO DISTRICT B AND, UH, DURING MY TRANSITION DURING THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, SO THANK YOU, UM JESSICA WILL BE REPLACED BY A NEW LEGISLATIVE AIDE, LAUREN MCDOUGALL, EFFECTIVE THIS SATURDAY. LAUREN BRINGS HER EXTENSIVE HUMAN RELATIONS EXPERIENCE, AND I'M CONFIDENT SHE WILL DO A GREAT JOB TO REPRESENT DISTRICT BE AS WELL. SO WELCOME, LAUREN. THANK YOU, JESSICA. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU, MR PENMAN, MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT . ALSO JESSICA, CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE GOT YOU'LL DO AS WELL THERE AS YOU AS YOU DON'T HEAR. UM ON APRIL 5TH. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVITED TO REVENUE CUTTING CEREMONY ALONG WITH PRESIDENT PAP PLACENTA AND CAL EXECUTIVE UM, BOB CASSILLY. AH I REMEMBER COMING OUT OF THE OF THE BRAND NEW DEFENSE CENTER FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND A PG EDGEWOOD EDGEWOOD CENTER. UM WE ALSO GOT AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY TO SPEND ABOUT TWO HOURS WALKING THROUGH THE ENTIRE THIS HUGE BUILDING. UH AND SEEING ALL THE FACILITIES THAT ARE INSIDE THAT BUILDING, UM YOU YOU'RE WELL PROTECTED IN THIS CENTER. UH IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU CAN GET TO THE CENTER AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET A TOUR THAT BUILDING I HIGHLY MET RECOMMENDED. AND IT WAS ONE PART OF THE BUILDING THAT GOT ME THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A WHOLE SECTION WHERE THEY DEAL WITH LITERALLY ALL KINDS OF BUGS , TICKS. ROACHES UH, YOU NAME IT AND THEY HAVE THIS WHOLE FOR SOLELY AND THEY HAVE A MOMENT JARS AND EVERYTHING, AND THEY AND THEY REALLY HAVE SPECIAL ROOMS AND THEY'RE THEY'RE FENCED OFF AND THEY'RE THEY'RE GATED OFF AND EVERYTHING SO NOTHING INTERFERES WITH THE OTHER ONE.

AND YOU YOU WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY SURPRISED AT WHAT THEY GO THROUGH FOR THAT, SO WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE. ON APRIL . 5TH ALSO ATTENDED THE SUBSEQUENT WHO'S UH UM, AWARDS BANQUET AT THE LEVEL OF FIRE HALL AND UH, OF COURSE I LOVE THEIR MASHED POTATOES. SO IT GETS THAT'S ONE REASON WHY UM, ON A ON A ON KIND OF A LESSER NOTE, UM AH, EVERYBODY KNOWS WE HAD A BAD FIRE AND EDGEWOOD ON BROOKSIDE DRIVE WHERE FIVE HOUSES WERE DESTROYED. UM AND AH

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APPRECIATE PAPPAS CYNTHIA CALLING ME BECAUSE USUALLY I'M USUALLY UP ABOUT SEVEN IN THE MORNING. TAKE MY DOGS OUT. I COME BACK IN AFTER FOR ABOUT AFTER ABOUT 15 MINUTES AND I GO RIGHT INTO MY OFFICE AT THE HOUSE AND I STORED ON MY CELL PHONE AS WELL PRESSING ON NOTICES. THERE'S A CALL FROM PAT AND HE TOLD ME ABOUT THE FIRING IN EDGEWOOD. SO AH, ON BROOKSIDE DRIVE, SO I JUMPED RIGHT IN MY CAR AND WENT RIGHT UP THERE GOT UP THERE PROBABLY AROUND 7 30 OR SO AND APPRECIATE BOBCATS. LEE. HE WAS HE WAS THERE HE HAD LEFT JUST BEFORE I GOT THERE. UM BUT IT'S REALLY A SAD CASE OF AFFAIRS TO LOOK AT THAT THOSE HOUSES DOWN BECAUSE ONLINE LOOK AT SOME PICTURES. YOU'LL SEE THEM. THEY'RE GUTTED. THEY'RE GONE. UM AND I JUST JUST TO, UH I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE IT. MAYBE YOU DON'T. BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF HOUSES AND JOPPATOWNE HABIT AND NUMBER EDGEWOOD AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MY DISTRICT, BUT THEY DID BUILD A LOT OF HOUSES IN, UH, IN HARFORD COUNTY THAT HAVE ALUMINUM WIRE. NOW I'VE COME FROM THE ELECTRICAL TRADE 50 YEARS AND THE I B W SO I KNOW A BIT ABOUT THE SUBJECT. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION AND LOOK TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ALUMINUM WIRE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ALUMINUM WIRE CAUSE THIS FAR, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO AFTER TALKING TO THE FIRE CHIEF AND ALL IN THE BACK THESE. THEY THINK THAT THE MIDDLE HOUSE THE FIRE STORY IN THIS MIDDLE HOUSE, BUT ON THE SECOND DECK OUTSIDE AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE HOW AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING OF FIRE STARTS ON A DECK ON THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE HOUSE. UM AH, JUST JUST OUT OF NOWHERE. IT'S JUST HARD TO BELIEVE THE ONLY THING THAT I COULD THINK OF IS ABOUT THIS ALUMINUM WIRE PROBLEM BECAUSE I HAD, UM, HOUSE I HAD BEFORE THIS ONE IN IN JOPPATOWNE HAD ALUMINUM WIRE AND I GOT A FIRE. I HAD A FIRE HAPPENED FROM THE ALUMINUM WIRE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT ALUMINUM AND COPPER DON'T MIX. OKAY SO YOU GOT ALUMINUM. YOU GOT A COPPER OUTLET. WE ALL DO THE ROLE. THEY'RE ALL COPPER. AND YOU TAKE AN ALUMINUM WIRE. YOU WERE WRAPPING AROUND THAT SCREW AND YOU TIGHTEN IT DOWN. THAT'S WHERE THE SCREWS STAYS, HOWEVER , PARTICULARLY IF IT'S ON AN OUTSIDE WALL. WHEN I SAY OUTSIDE WALL, I MEAN YOU'RE INSIDE, BUT THE WALL RIGHT ON THE OUTSIDE, YOU GOT SOME REAL COLD WEATHER. AND THEN SOME OF THESE OPERATING SOMETHING LIKE A DRYER LIKE MY WIFE WAS AND RUNNING IT. AND UM UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU THE COLD AIR ON OUTSIDE, IT SHRINKS THE ALUMINUM WIRE. I MEAN, IT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, SO SMALL AND YOU YOU DEFINITELY CAN'T SEE IT. BUT THE ALUMINUM WIRE SHRINKS, BUT THE COPPER DOESN'T SO THERE'S AN ARC BETWEEN THE ALUMINUM WIRE AND THE AND THE COPPER. WELL COPPER SCREW. AND THEN THAT ART GOES UP CATCHES ON THE WALLBOARD. YOU GOTTA FIRE. OKAY AND I GOT ONE JUST LIKE THAT IN MY HOUSE AND CALLED THE WALL BORN CAUGHT BURN THE WHOLE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF HOUSES. AND IN THE JOB OF TOWN OVER THE YEARS, AND THEN THAT WOULD THAT HAVE CAUGHT FIRE BECAUSE OF IT, SO IT'S JUST A WARNING. UM TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF YOU'VE GOT ALUMINUM WIRE AND ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE OUTLETS, PARTICULARLY OUTSIDE. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A LITTLE BUT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH AN OUTLET, THERE'S TWO LITTLE BUTTONS RIGHT IN BETWEEN THEM. THAT'S THE TRIP. JUST IN CASE THE PUG GETS OVERLOADED AND DON'T GET MADE AT IT, BECAUSE THAT'S SAVING YOU A FIRE SAVING YOU A PROBLEM. IF IT'S STRIPPING, YOU GOT A PROBLEM. YOU NEED TO REPLACE THAT. SO THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. SORRY ONE ON, BUT THAT CONCERNS ME WHEN I WAS THERE 7 30 IN THE MORNING, AND BY THE WAY, LET ME SAY ONE THING. I REALLY GOTTA THANK THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS WHO HAD THREE ALARM FIRE. AND I WENT TO SOCIAL SERVICES. I MEAN, THEY WERE ALL THERE EARLY, AND I GOT THERE ABOUT 7 39 WERE ALREADY THERE AND THEY ALREADY HAD TALKED TO HIM AND I TALKED SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE AND WAS ABLE TO HELP ALONG WITH SOCIAL SERVICES TO GET THEM INTO A HOTEL ROOM. UM SINCE THEY LOST THEIR HOME AND LOST EVERYTHING IN IT, SO UM, PRAY FOR HIM, AND , UH, WE'LL DO WITH THE COUNTY WILL DO WHAT WE CAN DO. TAKE CARE OF THESE PEOPLE UNTIL THEY CAN GET THEIR HOUSE BUILT. THANK

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YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. UM AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT TRIP DOWN THERE BECAUSE I KNEW AS SOON AS I SAW IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT AND BE THERE TO HELP WITH. UM AND THEN TO ADD ON TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEALTH LABORATORY. IT WAS AN AMAZING FACILITY. IT HAS 67 INDIVIDUAL LAB. SPACES. 300 SCIENTISTS. AND THERE. NUMBER

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ONE CHARGE IS TO FOLLOW BASICALLY THE WARFIGHTER WHEREVER THEY GO IN THE WORLD TO COVER ANY TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH, TOXICOLOGY, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO KEEP THEM SAFE. ABERDEEN SOUTH AT EDGEWOOD IS ONE OF THE FEW FACILITIES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT HAD THIS CAPABILITY. IT'S AMAZING, UM SO I APPRECIATE THE TOUR AND THEN ALSO, UM FOLLOWING UP FROM TUESDAY NIGHT'S MEETING. MAJOR GENERAL EDMONDSON WAS THERE AND HE PULLED ME OFF TO THE SIDE, HE SAID. I COULDN'T SAY LAST NIGHT WHEN YOU ASKED ME HOW MUCH LONGER I WAS GOING TO BE HERE, BUT HE DID CONFIRM THE EXTENDED HIS STAY FOR ANOTHER YEAR, SO HE WILL BE HERE FOR A WHILE. UM OUR BUDGET IS DUE WITH US BY THE CHARTER ON THE 15TH. SOME ASSUMING THAT WILL GET IT FRIDAY AND THE BUSINESS AND ALONG WITH THAT I'M NEED TO REMIND EACH OF YOU WITH OUR BUDGET WORK SESSIONS. AND IF I MAY THIS TIME JUST TO GIVE THE AUDIENCE A CHANCE TO HEAR ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 19TH ON THE WE WILL BE INTERVIEWING OR LISTENING TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND SPENDING AFFORDABILITY REPORT. THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE STAFF DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATION BUDGET MANAGEMENT , OUR COUNTY COUNCIL BUDGET, HUMANE SOCIETY, HARFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE, HARTFORD CENTER, THE ARK AND THE ELECTIONS BOARD. ON THE 20TH.

WILL BE LISTENING TO THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR FOR DPW. HIGHWAYS DPW ENVIRONMENT SERVICES AND SUSTAINABILITY, DPW WATER AND SEWER DPW. TREASURY. THE LAW DEPARTMENT OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT EXTENSION SERVICES AND SO CONSERVATION ON THE 24TH MONDAY, THE 24TH IN THESE CHAMBERS AS WELL. AT 10 O'CLOCK, WE'LL START WITH THE LIBRARY'S BOARD OF EDUCATION. DELP. COMMUNITY SERVICES, PLANNING AND ZONING, THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM. ON THE 25TH. AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE EAST CHAMBERS WILL GO WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, HUMAN RESOURCES PROCUREMENT, HEALTH DEPARTMENT INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY. SHERIFF'S OFFICE EMERGENCY SERVICE OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT TYPE OF RESEARCH THAT MY COLLEAGUES AND THEIR CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORS ARE GOING TO BE DIVING INTO IN JUST A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. UM UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T GET IT ANY SOONER. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW EACH DEPARTMENT. UM BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN. AND FINALLY, JESSICA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE WHEN I NEED YOU APPRECIATE IT. AND WITH THAT THIS WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING. CONCLUDE THE MEETING.

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