May 16, 2023 County Council

[BOARD OF HEALTH UPDATE ]

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CHAIR CALLS TO ORDER BOARD OF HEALTH. UPDATE BOARD OF HEALTH UPDATES SPRING 2023 COUNCIL.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME MS MARCY AUSTIN, OUR HEALTH OFFICER HERE THIS EVENING. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU, MR VINCENT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE WELCOME. JUST BRING OUT MY CLOSER TO YOU KNOW. UM SO LET'S GO. SO TONIGHT'S AGENDAS WERE GOING OVER THE HEALTH EQUITY REPORT PROGRAM UPDATES THAT BETTER. UM I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS WITH UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND PARTICIPANT HEALTH. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SPECIAL REPORTS FROM OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH BUREAUS. ACCORDING TO THE CDC. HEALTH EQUITY IS ACHIEVED WHEN EVERY PERSON HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTAIN THEIR FULL HEALTH POTENTIAL, AND NO ONE IS AT A DISADVANTAGE TO ACHIEVE THE POTENTIAL BECAUSE OF SOCIAL POSITION OR OTHER SOCIALLY DETERMINED CIRCUMSTANCES, HEALTH AND EQUITIES REFLECTED IN DIFFERENCES AND LENGTH OF LIFE QUALITY OF LIFE. RATES OF DISEASE, DISABILITY AND DEATH, SEVERITY AND DISEASE OF DISEASE AND ACCESS TO TREATMENT. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT POPULATION HEALTH UNIT HAS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED AND PRESENTED THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE 2023 HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH EQUITY REPORT TO MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS. A COPY OF THAT IS IN YOUR FOLDER. THANK YOU TO ZIL REVOLVE EPIDEMIOLOGIST AND ZACH MAKERS ARE HEALTH POLICY ANALYST FOR A GREAT REPORT AND FOR THEIR PRESENTATIONS AT MANY OF OUR PARTNERSHIP MEETINGS. THROUGHOUT HARFORD COUNTY DISPARITIES AND INEQUITIES EXIST IN EVERY REALM OF HEALTH. HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO IMPROVING HEALTH EQUITY IN THE COMMUNITY. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE INCREASING THE STANDARDIZATION OF PUBLIC HEALTH MESSAGING THROUGH COMMUNITY HEALTH OUTREACH WORKERS AND INCREASING THE CULTURAL COMPETENCY OF OUR STAFF, INCLUDING AN ALL STAFF TRAINING TO BE HELD THIS THURSDAY. THE TRAINING WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OF A UNIFIED HEALTH PROMOTION, EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY. YEAH, WE HAVE SOME PROGRAM UPDATES. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. MINORITY HEALTH PROGRAMS. SECOND ANNUAL I YOU WE MATTER, YOU SYMPOSIUM FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL. YOUNG MEN WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY MAY 20TH FROM 4 30 TO 9 P.M. AT ABERDEEN FESTIVAL PARK. THE AFTERNOON WILL BE FILLED WITH FOOD GAMES PRIZES, SPECIAL GUEST SPEAKERS AND PANEL DISCUSSION AND THE NEXT STEP SESSION TO EMPOWER THE YOUNG MAN MEN WITH IDEAS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO AFTER GRADUATION. THANK YOU, FELICIA HOPKINS AND MICHELLE PETERSON FOR THEIR CONTINUED EFFORTS AND SUPPORT OF OUR MINORITY HEALTH COMMUNITY. SO EVERY YEAR MEDICAID ENROLLEES ARE REQUIRED TO RENEW AND VERIFY THAT ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION IS CORRECT. ANY MEDICAID ENROLLEES WHO WERE DUE FOR RENEWAL IN MARCH OF 2020. FROM THE COVERAGE WAS AUTOMATICALLY EXTENDED THROUGH APRIL 30TH 2023 BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC NOW THAT THE EXTENSION ENDED, MANY MEDICAID ENROLLEES ARE NOT REALIZING THAT THEY MUST ONCE AGAIN RENEW THEIR COVERAGE EVERY YEAR. BECAUSE OF THIS, OUR STAFF IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO REACH OUT TO FOLKS BY PHONE AND LETTERS. TO INFORM THEM THAT THEY NEED TO RENEW THEIR COVERAGE. MANY FOLKS HAVE BEEN UNREACHABLE DUE TO CHANGE IN ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER. SO WE ANTICIPATE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL LOSE COVERAGE TEMPORARILY. WE ENCOURAGE MEDICAID ENROLLEES WHO MAY HAVE LOST COVERAGE TO REACH OUT TO OUR M TIP PROGRAM, AND OUR STAFF WILL ASSIST THEM WITH THEIR RENEWAL. THANK YOU TO OUR AMAZING M CHIP STAFF, LED BY KAREN PLATT FOR THEIR TIRELESS EFFORTS IN ASSURING PEOPLE HAVE THEIR MEDICAID COVERAGE. THIS IS, UH, HAPPY HEALTHY HOMES IS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROGRAM THAT HELPS SENIORS AGE COMFORTABLY IN THEIR OWN HOMES.

FUNDING FROM HUD, WHICH IS THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES MINOR OR MODERATE TO MODERATE HOME MODIFICATIONS TO HELP PROMOTE AGING IN PLACE, REDUCE FALL RISK AND ALLEVIATE COST BURDEN FOR SENIORS. THE HEALTHY HAPPY HOMES PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SINCE BEGINNING LAST FALL. THIS IS A THREE YEAR $1 MILLION GRANT PROGRAM STATISTICS SO FAR INCLUDE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S RECEIVED 43 REFERRALS. FIVE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, 27 PROJECTS ARE IN PROGRESS. 11 WERE NOT ELIGIBLE. MARCIE YES. THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS, BUT

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ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO. SO, UM. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CARE COORDINATION PLUS PROGRAM.

SO I WAS SENT AN INTERESTING STORY BY KIM PROUD. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S DIRECTOR OF CARE COORDINATION PLUS ABOUT HOW A NURSE CASE MANAGER ALL THE WAY AND ANCHORAGE, ALASKA, REACHED OUT TO KIM ALL THE WAY OVER HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY. WHAT COULD HAVE ENDED WITH SORRY YOU HAVE THE WRONG NUMBER ENDED INSTEAD WITH A CLIENT RECEIVING AND AN ENTIRE ARRAY OF SERVICES. IN HARTFORD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENTS CARE COORDINATION PLUS PROGRAM RECEIVED A CALL FROM A NURSE CASE MANAGER FROM PROVINCE HOSPITAL IN ANCHORAGE. ALASKA AS A BUREAU DIRECTOR FOR CARE COORDINATION. KIM WAS SPEAKING TO THE NURSE AND WAS JUST ABOUT TO TELL HER THAT SHE HAD THE WRONG NUMBER WHEN THE NURSE FURTHER EXPLAINED THE SITUATION. THE NURSE HAD A PATIENT SHE WAS WORKING WITH. TO PREPARE HER FOR DISCHARGE. IS THAT NOISE COMING FROM ME? YES, MA'AM. WHAT AM I DOING? YOU'RE DOING JUST FINE, OKAY? OR RIGHT, SO THEY'RE PREPARING FOR DISCHARGE. THE PATIENT WAS IN HER EARLY TWENTIES HOMELESS AND HAD LOST HER JOB. THE PATIENT'S FATHER LIVES IN BEL AIR IN HAS OFFERED HER TO COME TO MARYLAND AND LIVE WITH HIM. THE NURSE CASE MANAGER STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH AND FOUND THE NUMBER FOR THE CARE COORDINATION PLUS PROGRAM HERE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THE CLIENT HAS SINCE MOVED TO BEL AIR. IT WAS CONTACTED BY KIM. KIM REFERRED HER TO M CHIP TO APPLY FOR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE CARE COORDINATION UNIT FOR HEALTH CHOICE TO EDUCATION, INCLUDING FINDING PHYSICIANS AND TRANSPORTATION TO HER MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS. I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HER EXTRAORDINARY CASE MANAGEMENT AND CARE, COORDINATION, SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE OF SERVICES IN OUR COUNTY. TODAY. UM. THIS IS ONLY ONE EXAMPLE OF THE WORK. THE CARE COORDINATION BUREAU DOES DAILY TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH THE SERVICES THEY NEED, INCLUDING REFERRALS TO OUR OWN SERVICES AND REFERRALS TO COMMUNITY SERVICES AS WELL. KIM ALSO OVERSEES THE HEALTHY, HAPPY HOMES PROJECT THAT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT. RIGHT DENTAL PROGRAM. SO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DENTAL PROGRAM STRIVES TO IMPROVE THE ORAL HEALTH OF CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN IN HARFORD COUNTY THROUGH BOTH RESTORATIVE AND PREVENTIVE CARE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS TO CLINICS THE ORIGINAL CLINIC IN EDGEWOOD THAT WE LIKE TO CALL THE DION CLINIC BECAUSE HE WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THAT AND OUR NEWER CLINIC AT OUR ONE NORTH MAIN FAMILY HEALTH CENTER IN BEL AIR. SERVED CHILDREN AGES 1 TO 20, WHO ARE ENROLLED IN THE MARYLAND CHILDREN'S HEALTH PROGRAM. THE CLINICS ALSO SERVED PREGNANT WOMEN ENROLLED IN THE MEDICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THE DENTAL CLINIC HAS EXPANDED SERVICES TO INCLUDE ADULT MEDICAL MARYLAND MEDICAID PARTICIPANTS. WHO AS OF JANUARY , 1ST 2023 GAINED ACCESS TO COMPREHENSIVE DENTAL COVERAGE.

TO DATE, THE CLINIC HAS PROVIDED CARE TO 122 ADULTS WHO WERE NOT PREVIOUSLY ELIGIBLE. ACCEPTING ADULT MEDICAL MEDICAID PATIENTS IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION EXPANSION TO OUR EXISTING SERVICES. THEREFORE WE ARE IN SEARCH OF A SECOND GENERAL DENTIST, UM, TO ASSIST WITH THE DEMAND OF THIS ADULT DENTAL MEDICAID EXPANSION. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS TWO PEDIATRIC DENTISTS ON STAFF. THANK YOU TO MEGAN JIRSA. I'M SARAH MORE FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO THE DENTAL PROGRAM. IT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS HAD A LONGSTANDING PARTNERSHIP WITH UPPER CHESAPEAKE HEALTH AND THE FOLLOWING THREE SLIDES WILL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF OUR SHARED PROGRAMS. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S CANCER PROGRAM OFFERS NO COST CANCER SCREENINGS TO ELIGIBLE MARYLAND RESIDENTS FOR BREAST CERVICAL, COLORECTAL AND LUNG CANCER PROGRAM, ALSO ASSISTS WITH CASE MANAGEMENT AND PROVIDES EDUCATION TO PATIENTS.

THE BREAST, CERVICAL AND LUNG CANCER SCREENING PROGRAMS ARE CONDUCTED AND SUPPORTED BY UPPER CHESAPEAKE STAFF. MONTHLY AFTER HOURS BREAST AND CERVICAL CANCER SCREENING CLINICS OR HELD IN THE KAUFMAN CANCER CENTER. SCREENING IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL THAT CAN SAVE LIVES. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND UPPER CHESAPEAKE OR ALSO WORKING TOGETHER TO IMPROVE DIABETES CASES IN THE COUNTY BY EXPANDING THE DIABETES PREVENTION PROGRAM CALLED PREVENT T TWO DIABETES CLASSES, THE 12 MONTH IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL EVIDENCE BASED PROGRAM CAN HELP REDUCE ONE'S RISK OF DEVELOPING DIABETES. TRAINERS FOCUS ON SKILLS TO LOSE WEIGHT AND EAT BETTER BECOME MORE

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THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS ASSISTING IN PROVIDING CARE, COORDINATION AND NUTRITION CONSULTATION. THIS CLINIC WILL PROVIDE A NICE CROSS REFERRAL SYSTEM TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S CLINICAL SERVICES AND FURTHER STRENGTHENS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH UPPER CHESAPEAKE. IN ADDITION, WE ARE PLANNING A RIBBON CUTTING TO OFFICIALLY INTRODUCED THE CLINIC ON JUNE 5TH AND YOU ALL WILL BE INVITED. SO WHERE ARE SPECIAL REPORTS? I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE ANDREA PAPPAS COME UP. DIRECTOR OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, AND DR JULIE STAN CLIFF, MEDICAL DIRECTOR OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. THERE ARE FORWARD THINKING POWERHOUSE DUO WHO ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR INNOVATIVE WAYS TO SERVE THE EVER INCREASING COMPLEX NEEDS OF OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. CLIENTS THEY LEAD A LARGE TEAM OF COUNCILORS WHO ARE WORKING WITH INTENSE AND COMPLICATED CASES THEMSELVES. SO ANDREA AND DR STAN CLIFF ARE ALWAYS THINKING OF WAYS TO BOOST MORALE WITH THEME DAYS AND STAFF LUNCHES. I THINK YOU'RE GOING FIRST. THANK YOU, MARCY. SO THE BEHAVIOR HEALTH BUREAU IS COMPRISED OF THREE DIFFERENT UNITS ARE LOCAL ADDICTIONS AUTHORITY, OUR DIVISION OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FOR ADULTS AND OUR DIVISION OF BEHAVIOR, HEALTH FOR YOUTH AND ADOLESCENTS. FOR OUR DIVISION OF GABRIEL ADULTS. WE HAVE AN OUTPATIENT CLINIC AS WELL AS AN INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT PROGRAM AND INCLUDES GROUP THERAPY, INDIVIDUAL THERAPY, MEDICATION MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS FAMILY SESSIONS. FOR OUR DIVISION OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FOR YOUTH ADOLESCENTS THAT INCLUDES INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING, GROUP COUNSELING, MEDICATION, MANAGEMENT AND FAMILY THERAPY AS WELL. WE WENT TO SWITCH, OKAY? SO FOR OUR DIVISION OF YOUTH AND ADOLESCENTS, JUST A COUPLE OF STATISTICS AND 22. WE SERVED 125 YOUTH AND ADOLESCENTS IN OUR PROGRAMS AND SO FAR IN FY 23. WE'VE ALREADY SERVED 154 DEMONSTRATING AN INCREASE OF THOSE THAT WE'VE SERVED THUS FAR. BESIDES THAT INCREASE IN THE VOLUME, WE'VE ALSO SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE COMPLEXITY OF THESE CASES AND HOW MUCH MORE INTENSE AND INVOLVED COMPLICATED THESE PRESENTATIONS HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR. SO COMPOUNDING THIS THE SHORTAGE OF YOUTH ADOLESCENT PROVIDERS AT OUTPATIENT AND INPATIENT LEVELS AND THE WAIT LIST OF CURRENT PROVIDERS. WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN EXPERIENCING A SURGE AS WELL AS FACING OUR OWN BARRIERS. SO FOR BEHAVIOR OF ADULTS CLINIC IN CALENDAR YEAR 2020 HARFORD COUNTY SAW 101 OPIOID RELATED DEATHS AND SO ON INCREASE OF 110 OPIOID RELATED DEATHS IN CALENDAR YEAR. 2021 CALENDAR YEAR. 2022 WE DID SEE A DECREASE TO 20 EXCUSE ME TO 85 OPIOID RELATED DEATHS. AND WHILE THIS WAS ENCOURAGING, OUR TEAM WANTED TO EXPLORE MORE INNOVATIVE AND LESS INVASIVE FORMS OF TREATMENT FOR OPIOID DEPENDENCE. ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN THINGS OVER TO DR STAN CLIFF, AND SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT A PROGRAM WE HAVE CALLED TANS. THE SOUND GOOD. SO, UM YES, WE HAVE A NEW PROGRAM IS CALLED THE TRANS, CUTANEOUS OR REGULAR EURO STIMULATOR SHORT FOR TENS THAT BETTER RIGHT? SO THIS IS A NEW FDA CLEARED DEVICE . UM, PAIN FREE DEVICE IN WHICH PATIENTS WEAR, UM AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH OPIATE WITHDRAWAL , SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST BARRIERS FOR PATIENTS THAT IS OPIATE DEPENDENT IS GOING THROUGH OPIATE WITHDRAWAL. AND SO THIS DEVICE THEY TAKE HOME WITH THEM, AND THEY UTILIZE IT FOR AS LONG AS THEY NEED AS THEY ARE GOING THROUGH WITHDRAWAL. THE NICE THING IS THEY CAN AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH WITHDRAWAL WITH THE TENS. THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR TREATMENT SO THEY CAN COME INTO OUR I O P. THEY CAN COME INTO OUR INDIVIDUAL AND OUR GROUP THERAPY WHILE THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH WITHDRAWAL. UM THE TANS ACTUALLY CUTS DOWN ON OPIATE WITHDRAWAL WITHIN AN HOUR OR TWO. WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR. THE ONES THAT WE HAVE UTILIZED HAVE ALL BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE HAD A GENTLEMAN USING $1200 WORTH OF OXYCODONE TODAY. UM AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET HIM THROUGH WITHDRAWAL WITHIN FIVE DAYS, HE SAID IT WAS THE MILDEST WITHDRAWAL THAT HE HAS EVER EXPERIENCED IN HIS LIFE. WE ALSO HAD A SET OF

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REPRESSIONS ON THAT. UM I THINK WE'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS AT THE END, OKAY? OKAY SO A COUPLE MORE SO I WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI AND COUNCIL AND COUNTY EXECUTIVE CASTLE E FOR THE ADDITIONAL 750,000 AND FUNDING FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE FUNDING IS TO COVER A DEFICIT IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH BUDGET GOING INTO FY 24. AND WILL ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF STAFFING. THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO HIRE NEW STAFF, WHICH WOULD TAKE US OVER BUDGET AGAIN. FOR 10 YEARS, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN LEVEL FUNDED BY THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE COVERED THE COST FROM OUR COLLECTIONS PROGRAMS. THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE, SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE INCREASE. AND MORE. SEE IF I MAY. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT, IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. I REALIZE THAT SO GOING BACK. TO THAT, UM , THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WE SIGNED WITH THE COUNTY ON MAY 9TH ALSO INCLUDES THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S INTEGRATION OF ALL ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DUTIES AND PROGRAMS INTO THE COUNTY'S ENTER GAV SYSTEM. THIS WILL ELIMINATE DOUBLE DATA ENTRY OF FIELD AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. SO NOW LIKE TO INTRODUCE JOHN BRESLIN, ACTING DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. JOHN HAS BEEN WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR OVER 20 YEARS. NOW IT HAS RISEN THROUGH THE RANKS. HE HAS BECOME SKILLED IN HANDLING HIGH LEVEL COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS AND ALWAYS FINDS A WAY TO EITHER SOLVE THE PROBLEM OR LEAD US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE SOLUTION. THANK JOHN FOR THE THINGS HE HAS TAUGHT ME IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ARENA, ONE OF WHICH IS TO NEVER ASK WHAT IS IN THAT COOLER. THAT WILL BECOME CLEAR IN A FEW MINUTES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. UM. MANY OF YOU ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL MAY THINK THAT THE BUREAU OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IS ALL ABOUT BUILDING PERMITS, SEPTIC PERMIT SOIL PERCOLATION TESTS, SUBDIVISION AND LAND FOOD FOOD PERMITS. AND ALL THAT IS TRUE. BUT TONIGHT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR RABIES PROGRAM IN THE STORY OF THE POTENTIALLY RABID HORSE. AROUND 7 P.M. ON WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20/6 I RECEIVED A CALL ON MY CELL PHONE FROM HARFORD COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES. THEY HAVE A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND COUNCILMAN RILEY'S DISTRICT D WITH SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT RABIES , SO THEY PATCHED THE CITIZEN THROUGH TO ME. AND SHE BEGINS TO TELL ME YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT HER SITUATION WAS. SO HER MAYOR RECEIVED A FOOT INJURY OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN A FEW DAYS AGO.

AND HER HUSBAND WAS CARRYING FOR THE MAYOR. SO ON TUESDAY, THE 20/5 THE MAYOR'S HEALTH BEGAN BEGAN TO DECLINE. AND THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CALL THAT TO AH TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE HORSE. SO WEDNESDAY, THE VET COMES TO THE PROPERTY. EXAMINES THE HORSE CONCLUDES THE BEST TREATMENT WAS TO EUTHANIZE THE MAYOR. THE DIAGNOSIS. THE DIAGNOSIS OF THE VET WAS THOUGHT AS TETANUS. BUT RABIES COULDN'T BE ELIMINATED. SO THE VET WANTED THE MARRIAGE TO BE TESTED. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, RABIES SYMPTOMS THAT WERE KIND OF BEING EXPRESSED BY THE MAYOR.

SO ANYWAY, UM THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTED TO KNOW. WHAT TO DO. SO I TOLD HER. YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN'T REALLY DO MUCH. YOU JUST HAVE TO KEEP YOUR PETS AND THE FULL THAT IS SHARING THE YOU KNOW THE PADDOCK WITH THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE. KEEP YOU KNOW ANY, UM PEOPLE FROM THE MAYOR, AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU IN THE MORNING. SO I ASKED HER TO SEND ME SOME INFORMATION. ABOUT WHO WAS THE ATTENDING VETERINARIAN, THE ONSET OF SYMPTOMS THAT TYPE OF SYMPTOMS. SO SHE SENT ALL THAT TO ME WEDNESDAY NIGHT. I FORWARDED IT TO, UM DAN DRISCOLL

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SO IT EARLY IN THE MORNING ON THURSDAY, THE 20/7 DAN GETS IN CONTACT WITH, YOU KNOW, DR DAVID CHROME OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND'S YOU KNOW, HE'S THE STATE OF MARYLAND'S VETERINARIAN TO DISCUSS HOW TO APPROACH THIS LARGE ANIMAL SPECIMEN. DAN HAS NUMEROUS CONTACTS BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE VETERINARIAN THAT ATTENDED TO THE MAYOR. YOU KNOW THE DOCTOR DAVID CRUMB, MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF AG. AND IT'S CONCLUDED THAT. YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HANDLE ALL OF THIS, SO I NEED TO SEND TWO STAFF MEMBERS WITH RABIES, PRE EXPOSURE TREATMENT TO THE PROPERTY. SO UM. BASICALLY DAN, DAN DRISCOLL AND HANNAH LUX GO TO THE PROPERTY MID MORNING ON THURSDAY, THE 20/7 TO OBTAIN THE HORSEHEAD. SO WITH A SPECIMEN THAT LARGE YOU CAN'T TAKE THE WHOLE ANIMAL. SO YOU HAVE TO JUST TAKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN THAT CONTAINS THE BRAIN. SO DAN'S PURPOSE WAS TO HOLD THE CLIPBOARD AND HANDED TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE IN THE PICTURE. UM BASICALLY, I'M TOLD HANNAH IS JUST TOO INTIMIDATING WHEN SHE HOLDS THE CLIPBOARD. SO UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO SWITCH THE ROLLS AROUND AND THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE IS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AS TO WHO'S GOING TO REMOVE THE HEAD, AND IT WAS KIND OF AGREE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS GOING TO DO IT. SO DAN AND HANNAH GOT THERE. THE PROPERTY OWNER REMOVES THE HEAD SPARE YOU FROM THE PICTURES AND THE AND THE YOU KNOW DETAILS, BUT THEY REMOVED THE HEAD PACKET IN THE COOLER TRIPLE BAGGETT PUT IT IN THE BACK OF ONE OF OUR TRUCKS.

AND THEY HAVE TO DRIVE THIS SPECIMEN TO FREDERICK COUNTY BECAUSE FREDERICK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IS THE FACILITY THAT'S CLOSEST WITH THE CAPABILITY OF EXTRACTING THE BRAIN. SO. WE DRIVE THIS TO FREDERICK COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF AG, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM FREDERICK COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THEY DO THE REMOVAL. WE TAKE THE SPECIMEN TO FREDERICK COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE COURIER HADN'T ARRIVED YET, AND THEY AGREED TO HAVE THEIR COURIERS SENT US TO YOU KNOW, BALTIMORE IS LABORATORY FOR TESTING. SO UM, THE OTHER REASON WHY I WAS KIND OF CRITICAL WAS WE WEREN'T WE WEREN'T ENTIRELY SURE WE WOULD GET BACK TO BEL AIR IN TIME FOR OUR COURIER THAT GOES TO THE STATE LAB EVERY DAY, SO WE TAKE IT TO FREDERICK. FREDERICK REMOVES THE BRAIN. FREDERICK COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT SENDS IT TO BALTIMORE AND THEN WE JUST WAIT FOR TESTING. SO ON SUNDAY, THE 30TH OF APRIL DAN IS IN THE OFFICE WORKING ARABIA'S CLINK. YOU KNOW, RABIES CLINIC FOR DOGS, CATS AND FERRETS AND HAVE A GRACE AND HE SEES THE RESULT COMES AVAILABLE IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM. SO HE HAD ENOUGH TIME TO TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND RELATE TO THEM THAT THE RESULT WAS NEGATIVE AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RELIEVE SOME OF THEIR CONCERN. AND THEY WERE VERY APPRECIATIVE FOR THE INFORMATION AND YOU KNOW THEY SENT DANNA. THANK YOU. EMAIL. SO WHY? WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? THERE WERE IN THIS CASE THERE WERE THREE POTENTIAL HUMAN EXPOSURES. YOU KNOW, THE HUSBAND, THE WIFE AND THE GRAND DAUGHTER AND THE GRANDDAUGHTER WAS THE MOST VULNERABLE BECAUSE SHE ROUTINELY WOULD GIVE US HORSE KISSES ON THE MOUTH AND THERE WAS THE ANIMAL EXPOSURE OF THE FALL IN THE SAME PATH. YOU KNOW, PADDOCK SO FORTUNATELY, UM, THE RESULT WAS NEGATIVE. THERE WAS NO NEED FOR POST EXPOSURE. TREATMENT OF YOU KNOW ANY OF THE CITIZENS OR THE FALL AND EVERYTHING SORT OF RETURNED TO NORMAL. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT TO YOU IS ON A ROUTINE BASIS. ARABI'S SPECIMEN LEAVES ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IN 2022. WE SUBMITTED 198 SPECIMENS FOR RABIES TESTING IN 21 WERE POSITIVE. AS OF APRIL 30TH OF THIS YEAR WE SUBMITTED 41 SPECIMENS AND SIX WERE POSITIVE. CURRENTLY HARFORD COUNTY IS SECOND IN MARYLAND FOR POSITIVE RABIES SPECIMENS FOR 2023. FREDERICK COUNTY IS FIRST WITH 14 POSITIVES. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YOU CAN STAY UP HERE IN CASE THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE. THANK YOU. HERE SO I WANT TO THANK DR JAMIE CIVIL FOR HER LEADERSHIP DURING THE TUBERCULOSIS TUBERCULOSIS CASE THAT HIT THE NEWS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS,

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UM. MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS. UM BOTH YOU MISS AUSTEN AND MR BRESLIN, AND YOU'RE ALWAYS EFFICIENT. YOU'RE ALWAYS THERE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS, AND THAT'S WHY WE FELT SO STRONGLY TO SUPPORT YOU IN YOUR REQUEST FOR THE FUNDS NEEDED TO HELP YOU ASSIST YOU AND WHAT YOU NEED TO DO EACH AND EVERY DAY, SO COUNCIL WITH THAT OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, MR PENMAN. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM AND YOUR WORK. UM YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY DID HAVE ONE QUESTION CONCERNING VETERANS THAT MAY SEEK HELP THROUGH ADDICTION. DO YOU HAVE A LIAISON WITHIN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT WILL HELP THEM TO GET TO THE V A. AND, UH, PROBABLY, WE DO. SO MAYBE ONE OF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT. MORE THAN LIKELY.

THE IN HOUSE, BUT WE TRY AND WORK. THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE DIRECTLY IN HOUSE, BUT WE TRY AND WORK WITH COLLABORATE WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. UM WELL, THE NEW CHAIR OF THE VETERANS COMMISSION , JIM MCMAHON VETERANS COMMISSION HAS BEEN A GREAT HELP TO ME ON THE RECENT ISSUES, SO MAYBE HE COULD BE OF HELP TO YOU IN THE FUTURE CASES AS WELL AS HIS NAME. BOB BROWN. ROBERT BROWN. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN, MR JANE JORDANA.

GOOD EVENING, MARCY. SO THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. ACTUALLY SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. MEDICAID RENEWAL'S. SO DOES EVERYBODY RENEW IN MARCH OR IS IT STAGGERED WHEN THEY RUN OUT? SO WHENEVER THEY APPLIED, THEY'LL RENEW ON THE YEAR THAT THE MONTH MONTH OKAY, SO, UM SO EVERYBODY THROUGH MARCH OF 2020 AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED THROUGH THROUGH APRIL OF 2023. BUT IF THEY RENEWED AFTER THAT, THEN THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. LOSE SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR COVERAGE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE TO RENEW. OKAY SO THAT'S WHY OUR STAFF HAS BEEN REACHING OUT CALLING AND TRYING TO GO ONLINE TO PEOPLE I MIGHT ADD. I'M SURE AND IF THEY GO ONLINE TO MARYLANDHEALTHCONNECTION GOV T THIRD STATUS OR THEY CAN RENEW THEY SHOULD CALL US BECAUSE WE CAN READ WE CAN HELP THEM RENEW. OKAY SO DO IT THAT WAY. BUT WE'RE RIGHT HERE TO HELP. SO OKAY. SO NOW SECOND QUESTION GOES TO THE DENTAL PROGRAM. THERE'S NO NUMBER HERE FOR THE DENTAL PROGRAM. SO, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT AS OF PARTICIPANTS WHO WERE ENROLLED IN MEDICAID AS OF JANUARY, 20TH 2023 AUTOMATICALLY GET COMPREHENSIVE DENTAL COVERAGE. THE ADULTS ADULT YES, BECAUSE SO FAR ADULTS DIDN'T HAVE COVERAGE. DO THEY THEN JUST GO TO THE TWO CLINICS? YES THEY CALL OUR EDGEWOOD CLINIC BECAUSE THAT'S THE CLINIC THAT HAS THE GENERAL DENTIST.

AND SO THEY CALL AND MAKE THE APPOINTMENT SO FAR BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND WE'VE STARTED WITH THE CLIENT, THE PARENTS OF EXISTING PATIENTS, WE FELT THAT WAS FAIR TO START WITH THE PARENTS OF THE KIDS WHO ALREADY COME SEE US. SO FAR WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE 100 AND 22. AND I WOULD IMAGINE THERE LOTS MORE OUT THERE IS THAT THE 877 10 40 NUMBER NO, IT'S NOT GONNA REMEMBER OF THE IT'S NOT ON HERE, TOO. DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE NUMBER? HOLD ON, BECAUSE WE SHOULD JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THAT. DEFINITELY WE CAN GET IN THIS SLIDE FOR THE DENTAL PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT NUMBER FOR THE DENTAL CLINIC IN EDGEWOOD IS 443. 9 TO 2. 7670. AND THAT'S AT

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OKAY AND WHAT IS IT THAT WHAT IS IT THAT IT'S DOING? THAT'S MAKING THEM YOU DIDN'T ELABORATE . QUESTION ARE YOU READY? YES OKAY. SO KIND OF JUST THE BASICS HERE. SO WHEN SOMEBODY IS USING AN OPIATE, WHETHER IT'S PRESCRIPTION PAIN MEDICATION, FENTANYL, HEROIN, WHATEVER THAT OPIATE GOES TO OUR SYSTEMS GOES UP TO THE BRAIN, AND IT BONDS TO WHAT'S CALLED AN OPIATE RECEPTOR. SO WHEN PATIENTS CONTINUOUSLY USED ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY STOP USING THAT RECEPTOR THAT HAD THAT OPIATE ON BECOMES REALLY SUPER EXCITED, AND THAT'S WHAT PRODUCES OPIATE WITHDRAWAL. AND SO OPEN WITHDRAWALS THAT YOU KNOW THE YAWNING THE SWEATY THE GI SYMPTOMOLOGY, THE MUSCLE EGGS, THE INSOMNIA, THE RESTLESSNESS. SO WHAT THE TANS DOES IS IT STIMULATES A VEGAS THE VAGUS NERVE IN OUR BRAIN TO RELEASE OUR NORMAL OR NATURAL ENDORPHINS , WHICH ARE OPIATES AND SO THE NATURAL ENDORPHINS GO BIND TO THAT OPRAH RECEPTOR AND SAY, STOP BEING SO EXCITED. AND SO IT RELEASED. IT HELPS REDUCE THE WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMOLOGY WITHIN AN HOUR TO TWO HOURS. OKAY COOL . VERY INTERESTING IS, UH. MORPHINE AND OPIOID. UM. AND I THOUGHT I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION, BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THE ANSWERS AND THERE WAS.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE SO HMM. HMM. BYE. I THINK, UM, I THINK I'M OH, HEALTHY, HAPPY, HEALTHY HUD PROGRAM. UM 62 HOMEOWNER HAVE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE MEET INCOME GUIDELINES . INCOME GUIDELINES AREN'T LISTED ME. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ASK GOOD. SO WHO IS GOOD FOR ME ? NO MORE. SHE'S GOOD. I'M NOT SO THE MEDIAN INCOME LIMITS OKAY. SO FOR ONE HOUSEHOLD YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE MAX IS $62,600. TWO HOUSEHOLDS. 71 550. DOLLARS SO THAT IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IN A SENIOR, AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIVING WITH YOU DOES THAT DESERVE INCOME COUNT WERE THE ONLY BASING IT DOES COUNT. OKAY CAMERON'S CARETAKER OR THEY HAVE A CHILD LIVING WITH THEM.

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THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR JAN JORDAN AND MR BENNETT. HELLO I'M EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT AND SEE ABOUT THE I YOU WE MATTER YOU'VE SYMPOSIUM COMING UP VERY SHORTLY. UM I NOTICED ON THE, UH, POSTER FOR IT SAID, YOU KNOW, THE 1ST 100 REGISTER WILL GET A T SHIRT AND A SWAG BAG OR HAVE YOU ALREADY PASSED THAT ALREADY? OR THEY'RE ALREADY 100. PEOPLE GETTING A T SHIRT, PEOPLE. WE WE'VE WE HAVEN'T REACHED 100 YET, SO THEY CAN COME ON THAT DAY AND REGISTER. I'LL TRY AND, UH JUST PUSH THAT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW IN THE ABERDEEN HAVING DEGREES AREA ESPECIALLY TO BE CLOSE BY AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING EXCITING TO DO ON AN EVENING, SO THANK YOU. MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOLERS. MHM. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU SEND US IN DIGITAL FORM? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. MR RILEY. MARSHALL AND JOHN. I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND I LIKE THAT YOU SAY YOU PROVIDE SERVICES ACHIEVE HEALTH. EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, AND I HOPE WE CAN WORK SOMETHING WITH THE HIGHLAND CENTER. UM ABOUT THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BUREAU. IS THAT ALSO LOCATED IN BEL AIR? EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE BELLAIRE, THIRD FLOOR OF THE 1 20 SOUTH HAYES BUILDING. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS YOU TALK ABOUT, UM TOTAL DEATHS AND CALENDAR YEAR. 2022 OPIOID RELATED DEATHS. DO YOU HAVE A DO YOU HAVE ANY LOCATION WHERE THEY ARE SO THAT WE, AS COUNSEL MIGHT KNOW IF IT'S IN OUR DISTRICT OR NOT IN OUR DISTRICT, SO WE DO GET REPORTS FROM THE STATE THAT ACTUALLY MAPPED THOSE LOCATIONS AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU GUYS JUST SHARE THAT WITH ME OUT OF COMMISSION. MORE TARGETED OUTREACH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR RILEY, MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU.

MR PRESIDENT. MARSHALL IS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. JUST THAT HORSES SAID THING I THOUGHT MAYBE IT CAME FROM THE GODFATHER MOVIE. NOT SURE THAT WAS THAT WAS BORN INFORMATION THAT I EVER NEEDED TO KNOW. WE HAVE A FOOT MIKE HERE. THAT FIXED? UM DONALD GUTHRIE. I MEAN, THE DENTAL CLINIC. THANK YOU FOR THAT. STILL GOING STRONG. UH WHAT WE LIKE TO HEAR FROM? CAN YOU GIVE US A KIND OF A WHEN IT STARTED AND HOW MANY WE WERE SERVING AND HOW MANY WERE SERVING NOW HOW WELL IT'S DONE OVER THE YEARS. STARTED IN 08 2008 WITH A GRANT FROM THE COMMUNITY HEALTH RESOURCES COMMISSION. IT WAS A $485,000 GRANT, AND BASICALLY THEY GAVE IT TO US FOR ONE YEAR AND TOLD US THAT WE HAD TO BE SELF SUSTAINING AFTER THAT. AND SO THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, A YOUNG GENTLEMAN THAT I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT BEFORE DIAMANTE DRIVER PASSED AWAY FROM A TOOTH INFECTION. AND SO THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THEY DID RAISE THE RATES FOR REIMBURSEMENT SO INTO 1008 THAT VERY FIRST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE COLLECTIONS. AND SO EVER SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN SELF SUSTAINING. THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY PROGRAM IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T GET A GRANT EXCEPT FOR THE SCHOOL PROGRAMS. UM AND SO OVER THE YEARS, I THINK THE FIRST DAY WE HAD SEVEN PATIENTS AND THEN OVER THE YEARS NOW WE HAVE 12,000. YOU KNOW, PATIENTS NOW, UM 12,000 YEAR. NO BUT A TOTAL OF 12. OKAY WE HAVE ABOUT 4500 VISITS A YEAR THAT INCLUDES BOTH DENTAL AND HYGIENE. UM SO THAT'S 4 4500. PATIENTS COMING THROUGH THE CLINICS. UM IT'S REALLY COOKING UP OVER AT ONE NORTH MAIN. UM AND SO WE THINK THAT ONE'S JUST THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST AS SUCCESSFUL. WE HAVE A PEDIATRIC DENTIST OVER THERE RIGHT ON MAIN AND PEOPLE ARE FINDING IT, SO IT'S WORKING OUT VERY WELL. ALL RIGHT, THE OTHER ONE THAT THAT 10 I'M NEVER GOING TO TRY TO PRONOUNCE THAT WORK. UM I WANT TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION OF MAYBE YOU HAVE

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON BOARD OF HEALTH APPOINTMENTS. UH OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH COURSE SERVICE AGENCY OF HARFORD COUNTY MAY HAVE EMOTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS OF LYNN WINKLER AND SEAN MICHAEL MARTIN SECOND SECOND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. IT'S MOVING A SECOND TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS FOR THE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND CORE SERVICE. HC HARFORD COUNTY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YOU KNOW, MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY, SADDLES ABSTAIN, MR BENNETT. WE HAVE SIX VOTES. AFFIRMATIVE ONE ABSTENTION. THE APPOINTMENTS ARE HEREBY APPROVED HER THE INDIVIDUALS WITH US THIS EVENING. MADE ME AWARE OF IT, TOO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. UM AND THEN NEXT. IF I MAY, UH, MARCY, IF YOU WOULD, AND, UH, DR STAN CLIFF. AND MS PAPPAS COME FORWARD. YOU DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. WHERE IS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH IS RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY EACH YEAR IN MAY TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE CRUCIAL CRUCIAL RESOURCES USED TO COMBAT AND OVERCOME THE STIGMAS SURROUNDING MENTAL ILLNESS. IN 2023 THE THEME OF MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH YOUR MIND MATTERS HIGHLIGHTS THE NEED TO JOIN TOGETHER AND ADVOCACY FOR IMPROVING THE NATION'S MENTAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR THE HARFORD COUNTY OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH AS PARTNER, PARTNERING WITH SEVERAL AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE WELLNESS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE

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I BELIEVE IF I MAY WELL, GO AHEAD AND WE'LL ROLL INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARING SO I'LL CALL TO

[a. Bill 23-011 (Apartments - B3-General Business District)]

GOOD EVENING, SIR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU. BILL NUMBER 23-011, AND THIS BILL IS TO REMOVE APARTMENTS FROM THE B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. AND THE PURPOSE IN GENERAL FOR THIS BILL IS TO REMOVE THESE APARTMENTS AS WE FEEL THAT THE REMAINING INVENTORY OF B THREE LANDS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISHED AT THIS TIME WE HAVE ABOUT 305 ACRES OF B THREE ZONE LAND THAT HAS DEVELOPABLE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. AND JUST BECAUSE I'M SAYING 305 ACRES THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S ENTIRE ACREAGE THAT ENTIRE ACREAGES DEVELOPED BECAUSE CERTAINLY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PARCELS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT , SO THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS PROBABLY QUITE LESS THAN THAT, SO WE WANT TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN SOME OF THOSE PARCELS SO THAT WE CAN USE THOSE OR SEE THOSE DEVELOPED FOR PURPOSES THAT ARE GOOD FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY AND ALSO TO SOME OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING THAT HAVE BEEN BEING CONSTRUCTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE IN LOCATIONS WHERE THERE AREN'T WALK ABILITY, WHETHER IT ISN'T WALK ABILITY TO AMENITIES AND THERE ARE LOCATED AT A CROSSROADS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT UH CHALLENGES TO CROSSING HIGHWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO GET TO AMENITIES AND A LOT OF THESE APARTMENTS, SO YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE AND THOSE AREAS WHERE THERE'S AMENITIES ARE AVAILABLE, AND THERE ARE WALKABLE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE DID LEAVE IN THIS DRAFT, OR THIS BILL HAS PROPOSED . WE DID LEAVE IN THE ABILITY TO DO APARTMENTS IN THE B THREE DISTRICT WHEN IT IS PART OF A MIXED USE PROJECT. WE FELT THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO DO THAT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A MIXED USE PROJECT, YOU'RE GENERALLY INCORPORATING THOSE TYPES OF PERSONAL SERVICES AND RETAIL USES THAT ARE MEANT TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. THAT WOULD HAVE APARTMENTS AND POTENTIALLY ALSO A MIXTURE OF OTHER TYPES OF UNITS AS WELL. SO WE DID PRESERVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE APARTMENTS IN THE B THREE DISTRICT AS LONG AS THEY ARE PART OF A MIXED USE PROJECT. IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, WE HAVE DEVELOPED APPROXIMATELY 1700 APARTMENT UNITS IN THE COUNTY, SO IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. AND AGAIN, THE MAIN PUSH

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ARE THERE ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PERMIT PROCESS THAT WILL BE HELD UP FROM THIS BILL. I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. ANSWER WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT YOU HAVE SEEN THAT ARE ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THEY'RE YOU KNOW, THEY'VE COME UP FROM THE GROUND FROM THE FOUNDATION. THEY WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THIS BILL. SO IF YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN A B THREE THAT PLANS ON RENOVATING EXPANDING, UH, ESSENTIALLY, WE WOULD BE ELIMINATE THEM AS NONCONFORMING USES. I MEAN, HOW WOULD THAT BE HANDLED IN THE FUTURE IF THERE IS AN EXPANSION OR REMODELING PROJECT FOR DIFFERENT APARTMENTS THAT IS IN THE B THREE ZONE? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, SIR. WITH EXPANSIONS. THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY RUN INTO THE NONCONFORMING SECTION OF THE CODE, AND THE NONCONFORMING SECTION OF THE CODE DOES ALLOW FOR EXPANSIONS UP TO A CERTAIN POINT AND THEN ALSO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO THE BOARD OF APPEALS TO ASK FOR NOT EXPANSION OF NONCONFORMING USES TYPICALLY , RENOVATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. CERTAINLY INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT HAS NO THIS HAS NO BEARING ON THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WELL OVER THE YEARS, GO AHEAD AND RENOVATE THE EXTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY THAT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AREN'T AFFECTED BY THIS BILL, BUT CERTAINLY EXPANSIONS OF APARTMENTS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN MY CAREER I NEVER REALLY SEEN ANYBODY COME IN AND EXPAND AN EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX OR EXISTING BUILDING. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING TYPICALLY THAT WE SEE. THANK YOU, MR GRAHAM. DOES THIS STOP WITH THIS? WOULD THIS STOP IF APPROVED SOME OF THE UM WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT HAS COME TO US IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, UM , LIKE MANDATED THROUGH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IF IT WERE TO BE LOCATED IN THE B THREE DISTRICT. YES. MR GUTHRIE? UH, NOT KNOWING WHERE I AM AT ON THIS BILL YET I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION WHICH I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. WE KNOW B THREE IS THE BEST ZONING CODE FOR BUILDING A BUSINESS IS IN THE B THREE, HOWEVER. AH! IF YOU WANT. YOU CAN BUILD HOUSES IN THE P THREE. IT'S KIND OF DUMB TO ME THAT ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE AND BE THREE ZONE BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT'S A GREAT ZONING THING IF YOU WANT TO PUT A BUSINESS IN THERE, BUT THAT'S POSSIBLE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT , SIR. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER ARE WE, UH UM ARE WE LIMITING THE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY THAT OWNERS PROPERTY WHO DECIDED TO WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE OR WANT TO BUILD A, UH, PUT IT IN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR OR A OR A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW? ARE WE LIMITING THEIR ABILITY TO DO THAT? WELL ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL TELL YOU THIS QUESTION. THEY HAVE IT NOW THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT NOW, RIGHT? CORRECT QUESTIONS THAT THIS QUESTION CAME UP DURING DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY AND, YES, YOU CAN DO A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN THE B THREE DISTRICT THAT'S VERY RARE, RARELY SEE THAT TYPICALLY, WE WOULD ONLY SEE THAT WHEN IT'S A MARGINAL PARCEL, VERY SMALL, NOT OF A SIZE THAT IS CAPABLE OF HANDLING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND ALSO TYPICALLY WHAT YOU SEE WITH B THREE. ZONING HISTORICALLY IS B THREE IS ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS, ARTERIAL CORRIDORS AROUND THE COUNTY. YOU DON'T SEE VAST PARCEL ACREAGES. LOVE 100 ACRES

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WANTED TO TURN ON MY MICROPHONE . AND, UM, ALSO JUST SAY I'M GLAD TO SEE IT. WE'RE PROTECTING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. UM YOU KNOW, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT MAKES IT SO YOU'RE CLOSER TO ALL THOSE SERVICES AND COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, UM, BUSINESSES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH AT A WALKING PATH. I AND WHEN PEOPLE WALK TO THE BUTCHER SHOP OR WHEN PEOPLE WALK TO ICE CREAM OR PEOPLE WALK TO THEIR LOCAL DEPARTMENT STORE THAT SAVES US MONEY ON ROAD MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE FARTHER PEOPLE ARE AWAY FROM THOSE CORE SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S THEIR LOCAL SCHOOL, THEIR LIBRARY, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THEY ARE AS A RESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY, AND I JUST THINK MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE , UM, YOU KNOW, FISCALLY MINDFUL TO MAKE IT SO IT'S CHEAPER TO EXIST IN YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT AN ARM'S LENGTH AWAY AND IT ALSO MAKES A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE. IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO OUTSIDE GOING TO WORK NEVER HAVE TO STEP INTO MY CAR BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS RIGHT THERE FOR ME. UM AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT THAT IS A GOOD FUTURE PATH FOR US AS A COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP THOSE TYPES OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT INTO THE FUTURE OF LOOKING FOR MORE OF THOSE? IS THAT BEING PRIORITIZED THROUGH A BILL LIKE THIS OR CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO THEN. THOSE FOLKS THAT STILL WANT TO DO APARTMENTS AND APARTMENT DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR PROPERTIES WHERE THEY CAN INCORPORATE MIXED JUICE INTO THAT, SO THEY ARE ABLE TO DO AN APARTMENT APARTMENTS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE, BECAUSE MIXED USE IS REALLY KIND OF A PLANNERS UTOPIA AND IT'S TOUGH TO REALLY GET A REALLY GOOD MIXED USE PROJECT. AND THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE IN THE COUNTY. I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE THE IDEAL OF A MIXED USE PROJECT. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE BOX HILL CORPORATE CENTER THAT WAS SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PROJECT IN THE WAY IT CAME ABOUT, BUT IT'S SITUATED IN AN AREA THAT IS WALKABLE. YOU CAN GO TO WEGMANS AND YOU CAN GO TO A WHOLE HOST OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES AND YOU HAVE TRANSIT RIGHT THERE. THAT MAKES IT REALLY KIND OF THE IDEAL OR CLOSE TO THE IDEAL OF WHAT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE, AND TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WITH. PEOPLE NOT HAVING TO GET INTO A CAR. HOPEFULLY TO TRAVEL. IT REALLY REDUCES WHAT WE CALL VEHICLE. MILES TRAVELED, AND THAT'S A BIG THING IN MIXED USE, DEVELOPMENT AND TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN HAS TRIED TO REDUCE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED.

THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. MR GENDER. DANA THANKS, SHANE. MR GRIMM. SO UH, I KNOW MY DISTRICT . THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT . I KNOW THAT PUTS AN EXTRA TAX ON DON'T MEAN TAX, BUT I NEED TAXING ON THE, UM EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT YOU KNOW, CAN CREATE THAT SHOW AND THEN THERE'S A ACTUAL ANOTHER APARTMENT THAT CAME UP THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT WE FOUND OUT I THINK IN A MEETING WITH YOURSELF IN DISTRICT D THAT WE HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS BEING BUILT IN A B THREE. SO IN THE PAST FEW YEARS,

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TALL APARTMENTS. IS THAT CORRECT ? SO IN IN THE B THREE, IF YOU DO A MULTI USE THEY CAN STILL DO FIVE STORIES HIGHER. IS THERE IS THERE GOING TO BE A LIMIT ON THAT OF HOW LIMIT BASED ON THE PROPERTY SIZE, WHICH WILL DICTATE WHAT THE DENSITY OF THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX COULD BE WILL BE BASED ON THE DENSITY OF THAT, UNLESS THERE IS SOME KIND OF AN AMENDMENT THAT SAYS THEY CAN ONLY BUILD SO HIGH, CORRECT, CORRECT. SO YOU HAVE WHAT WE CALL GARDEN APARTMENTS AND THERE'S APARTMENTS FOR UP TO THREE STORIES. THEN WE HAVE MID RISE, WHICH ARE UP TO FIVE STORIES, AND ANYTHING ABOVE THAT IS CONSIDERED OUR HIGH RISE. HIGH RISE APARTMENTS ARE PERMITTED IN THE R FOR DISTRICT . I BELIEVE UNDER THE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DESIGNATION. AND THEY HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE DON'T REALLY SEE THAT REALLY HIGH RISE TYPE DEPARTMENT APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT. UM, BUT YES, CERTAINLY YOU COULD SEE IF YOU HAD A PROJECT MIXED USE PROJECT ON A PARCEL THAT ALLOWED FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DENSITY CERTAINLY COULD SEE A FAIRLY TALL BUILDING. BUT I THINK THAT'S UNLIKELY IN THIS COUNTY.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, MR GINGER DOWN. UM. WITH NO ONE ELSE, MR GRAHAM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'LL TAKE THIS UP AT A FUTURE MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. I'M SORRY, OKAY? BILL ON ARADO, FOLLOWED BY DIANA SADOWSKI. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. ARADO I'M AT 18 03 FALSTAFF ROAD IN BEL AIR. UM, TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING ACTUALLY ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF HARTFORD. AS AN OFFICER OF FRIENDS OF HARTFORD. FRIENDS OF HARTFORD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORTS THIS BILL. FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT MR GRIMM LAID OUT I DON'T WANT TO REHASH ALL OF THAT, UM, I DO WANT TO PROVIDE, HOWEVER, AN EXAMPLE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR TO THIS AT THE INTERSECTION OF 5 43 AND THE ROUTE ONE BYPASS. THERE'S BACK IN 2018 2 OF THE TWO PARCELS AT THAT INTERSECTION. WE'RE UP TO THREE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. THE PLANS CAME IN FOR APARTMENT. CONSTRUCTION SO WE'RE NOW WE NOW HAVE ONE PROJECT COMPLETED WITH 70 APARTMENT UNITS AND ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT'S GOING UP. I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO. FOR ANOTHER 160 NOW SPECIFICALLY THE ONE THAT'S COMPLETED. I WOULD HAVE COURAGE YOU IF YOU NEED MORE PERSUASION ABOUT THIS BILL, TAKE A FIELD TRIP AND GO OUT AND VISIT THAT PROPERTY THAT PROPERTY IS IT'S A SMALL ACREAGE CERTAIN COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY 5, 43 AND ROUTE ONE. SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO WALK THE ROYAL FARMS OR TO THE REDNER'S, THEY GOT ACROSS SEVEN LANES OF TRAFFIC. SEVEN LANES OF YOU KNOW, ACROSS 5 43 ANOTHER SEVEN LANES ACROSS ROUTE ONE. NOW THERE'S NO CROSSWALKS THERE. THERE'S NO CROSSWALK SIGNALS THERE. THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENT BUILDING. THESE WHERE THERE ARE SIDEWALKS, THEY'RE INCOMPLETE. AND THIS IS ALL BECAUSE IT WAS PROBABLY ANTICIPATED TO BE BUSINESS USE.

NOT RESIDENTIAL WHERE PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY BE CROSSING THE STREET. UM THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY. THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO RIDE THEIR BIKES. THERE'S NOWHERE TO HAVE A PICK UP GAME WITH BASKETBALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM. NEAR THE RESOURCE IS THAT THESE RESIDENTS NEED NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF PRESIDENTS, EVERYONE HOUSING ASSESSMENTS.

THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE CARS, SO THEY HAVE TO WALK. I MEAN, THAT'S THE DANGEROUS, DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS SO. AND I THINK THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS BILL, MR PREVENT REPEATS OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT THAT INTERSECTION. SOME DEGREE. UM AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHY YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THIS BILL. BECAUSE, UM IF IT'S ALLOWED PLANNING AND ZONING REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY NO TO POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECT IF IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO THAT THE WALL IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN. EVEN IF MR GRIMM SAID POTENTIAL PROSPECTS. PROJECT OF THE CENTER SECTION.

HE CAN'T STOP IT BECAUSE THERE'S OWN CODE ALLOWS IT. SO THERE'S NO MECHANISM TO APPLY COMMON SENSE. SO AGAIN, UM IF YOU NEED MORE PERSUASION. TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION. WHAT'S WHAT'S BEEN BUILT AND WHAT'S BEING SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ONE. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS

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IN FACT, THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE CAR WASHES BUILT AT OR NEAR THE 1 52 ROUTE ONE INTERSECTION YES. THREE HOW MANY CAR WASHES ARE NEEDED IN FALLSTON? IMAGINE ADDING RESIDENCES TO THE AREAS. THE OTHERS LIKE IT THE COUNTY, IT ONLY ADDS TO THE CLUSTERS.

EVERYONE WHO HAS TO DEAL WITH THOSE ROADS ARE ARE EXPERIENCING. DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL WITH THEIR IMPROVEMENTS TO HARFORD COUNTY, NOT JUST IN THE REFERENCED AREA, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY DEVELOPERS SEEM HELL BENT ON JUST FILLING UP ANY VACANT AREA WITH BRICK AND MORTAR. NO MATTER WHAT THAT BRICK AND MORTAR IS. WE NEED TO REASSESS WHERE HARFORD COUNTY'S GOING. WE SHOULDN'T BECOME A CITY OF BALTIMORE CITY. MAYBE WE NEED A HALT. MAYBE WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND TAKE A BREATH AND TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

COUNTRY ROADS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TURN INTO CITY STREETS NOR HIGHWAYS, AND THAT LADY AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTY. MORE BRICK AND MORTAR DEVELOPMENT MUST NOT BECOME A NATURAL PROGRESSION OF RURAL LANDS. IT ONLY RESULTS IN SOMETHING NO LONGER RECOGNIZABLE AND NOT WANTED BY ITS RESIDENCES. REMEMBER, THEY PAVED PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT OR IN THIS CASE APARTMENTS. KEEP GOING, AND THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE GREEN GREEN GRASS OF HOME. WE SAY NO AND ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. WITH NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON BILL 23-011. THANK YOU, MR GRIMM. UM BILL 23-012

[b. Bill 23-012 (Appropriation-Estimated Expenses FY23-Department of Emergency Services)]

MR WOODS. MR BERNANKE. MR AYERS. FLOATING POINT.

ARE WE GOOD? I BELIEVE SO, UM MR AYERS IS PLEASURE SEEING YOU THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, SIR.

SO, MR SANDERS WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, THERE WITH A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO BE FUNDED THROUGH A TRANSFER FROM THE FUND BALANCE. THIS IS THE COVER THE TRANSITION COSTS OF THE E. M S TRANSITION FROM THE FOUNDATION OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO THE COUNTY SERVICE. I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE TOTAL COST OF THIS, UH, FIRST YEAR TRANSITION OR REMAINING OF FISCAL YEAR 23 TRANSITION IS A $8.6 MILLION. HOWEVER WE HAD $1.6 MILLION REMAINING. THAT WAS THE FOURTH QUARTER PAYMENT OF THE FOUNDATION THAT DID NOT HAVE TO BE MADE DUE TO THE SITUATION WITH THE FOUNDATION. SO THAT

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SO, UM, I'M SORRY. SO WHEN WE STARTED THE, UM TRANSITION FROM THE M S FOUNDATION TO THE COUNTY BACK IN. I'LL SAY FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, UM WE NEEDED TO HIRE AT THAT TIME 104. UM. E. M S PERSONNEL AND THEY WERE BROKEN DOWN AS 52, MTS AND 52 PARAMEDICS. UM SINCE THAT TIME.

UM. THAT WAS BACK IN. I'LL SAY THAT SOMETIME IN MARCH SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE ALREADY HIRED 71 OF THOSE. NUMBER AND THAT LEAVES US WITH STILL IN NEED OF 33 TO COMPLETE THE TRANSITION, SO WE STILL NEED 20 PARAMEDICS AND 13 MTS, BUT WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY FROM THE 104 THAT WE NEEDED TO HIRE BACK IN MARCH. UM WE ALSO NEEDED SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THREE MONTHS, PRE EMPLOYMENT COSTS AND TRAINING OF THOSE PERSONNEL. THEN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE NEXT BIG ITEM WAS THE AMBULANCE PURCHASES WE PURCHASED 12 AMBULANCES FROM THE VOLUNTEER FIRE SERVICE. UM ABINGTON FIRE COMPANY HAD ON THE ASSEMBLY LINE THREE UNITS THAT HADN'T BEEN DELIVERED YET. THE COUNTY, UM, ABSORBED THE CONTRACTS OF TWO OF THOSE UNITS . SO UM, THAT BROUGHT THE NUMBER 2 14. THE COUNTY, UH, ALSO HAS ORDERED THREE NEW AMBULANCES, BUT IT'S TAKING ON AVERAGE ABOUT TWO YEARS. FROM THE TIME YOU SIGN A CONTRACT TO GET AN AMBULANCE BEFORE IT'S ACTUALLY DELIVERED. COVID REALLY SLOWED THAT DOWN. UM AND WE ALSO HAVE LEADS ON TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS AND FACTOR SLIDES ALREADY OUTDATED BECAUSE WE PURCHASED A AMBULANCE FROM GOING GOINGS MILLS VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY TODAY, SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT EVERY POSSIBLE AVENUE TO HAD TO WEAR FLEET. UM WARREN PATRICK, OUR FLEET MANAGER IN THE COUNTY FOR EVERY ANGLE, AND SO YOU HAVE ON THE STREET. YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL ANIMALS. SO SAY IF WE HAD 12 AMBULANCES ON THE STREET , WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE 12 AMBULANCES IN RESERVE FOR, UM MAINTENANCE AND WHEN AN AMBULANCE GETS IN AN ACCIDENT OR BREAKS DOWN, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR FLEET TO THAT POINT UM, THE NEXT SLIDE. EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES. THIS WAS MOSTLY THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO PURCHASE FROM THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES. SO FAR, COMPANIES HAVE IF THEY HAD LARGE EQUIPMENT ON THEIR UNITS THAT WE PURCHASE . WE ALSO PURCHASED THE EQUIPMENT THAT CAME WITH THOSE AMBULANCES. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT SLIDES TALKING ABOUT. IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION TO PURCHASE THAT EQUIPMENT. UM. WHEN WE TALKED TO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES WHEN WE STARTED THIS TRANSITION TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR FUNDING THAT THEY WERE GETTING FOR M S BILLING. UM, THIS $889,500. WAS TO OFFSET THE MONEY THAT THEY WERE LOSING FROM E. M S BILLING WHEN THE COUNTY TOOK THIS OVER. AND IT WAS ALSO A CAUSE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS WE NEEDED TO MAKE TO THEIR FIRE STATIONS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE OUR CAREER PEOPLE AND THEIR VOLUNTEER STATIONS. UM AND THEN THE YEARLY VEHICLE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR ALL OF THE E M S UNITS IN THE COUNTY. AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALS ON THE NEXT SLIDE THAT CAME UP TO 8,619,500 . IT WAS OFFSET BY THE ALLOCATION THAT THE FOUNDATION WOULD HAVE RECEIVED IN THE FOURTH QUARTER, WHICH WAS A LITTLE OVER 1.6 MILLION. WHICH CAME TO A TOTAL OF $6,995,500.

AND WITHOUT ALL. ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR MR CHAMBLISS WINTER AND THEN AS A AS A REMINDER ANYTHING THAT COURSE THAT IS NOT SPENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS IS A THIS IS A FORECAST AND THERE'S TRANSITION HAPPENING WITH DIFFERENT TIMING, AND THE LIKE, WOULD OF COURSE, FALL BACK TO FUND BALANCE AND BE AVAILABLE FOR USE IN A FUTURE YEAR. MR PEMBERTON. MR HARRIS. THANK YOU.

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SHE'S 97 YEARS OLD. SHE JUST SAID A BIRTHDAY SATURDAY. WE HAD AROUND FOR A PARTY AND TOOK HER MOTHER'S DAY. DID YOU SITTING THERE? I HAVING DINNER. THE HOUSE ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK. MY WIFE SAYS, UH, I HEARD SOMETHING, YOU KNOW THAT. DID MOM SAY SOMETHING ? I KNOW IT'S A KEEN HERE OVER THE TV TVS ALLOWED AND SHE GOES OVER AND TECHNICIAN AND SHE SCREAMS THE QUOTE HERE AND I CHECKED MY MOTHER LOW AND SHE WAS CLEARLY HAVING A STROKE. I MEAN, I KNOW SOMETHING SYMPTOMS , YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE PARALYZING THE ARMS AND YOU CAN'T RAISE YOUR ARMS AND YOU CAN'T SMILE UNTIL I KIND OF STUFF DO AND THAT WAS THERE. SO RIGHT AWAY, I CALLED 911. GOT A LOT OF HELP FROM THE OPERATOR. 911 HELPED A LOT GAVE ME SOME THINGS TO GO TO GO THROUGH THE ASKAR, YOU KNOW, AND HE AGREED. CLEARLY SHE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF A STROKE. AND SO WE CALL 911 AND HE TOLD ME, UM, THAT AMBER. HE CALLED THE AMBULANCE ALREADY. IT'S ON ITS WAY. OKAY, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT. AND THEY SAID THAT THE PARAMEDICS CAME IN AND THEY GET HER ALREADY. YOU KNOW, TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL. I GO OUTSIDE, AND IT'S A NEIGHBORLY IS PULLING UP MY DRIVEWAY. GUESS WHAT. BALTIMORE COUNTY. THE COUNTY AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW? SO YOU THINK A COUNCILMAN'S GUARDING POOL, YOU KNOW NO MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, AND THEN THEY SAID THERE WAS NO AMBULANCE AVAILABLE. THEY'RE ALL OUT, YOU KNOW? AND SO THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU THE NEED THAT WE HAVE. YOU NEVER KNOW THE NEED THAT YOU HAVE UNTIL YOU DON'T HAVE IT. YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, AMBULANCE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT PART. SO CLEARLY, WE NEED THESE SAME BLENDS. AND UH, YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU, UH, CALL AND YOU CAN'T GET ONE. AND IT'S A SERIOUS MATTER LIKE THIS, AND THEY SAID AT THE HOSPITAL THAT THEY GOT HER THERE QUICKLY. AND IF YOU GET THEM THERE WITHIN TWO HOURS, SHE HAD TO GO TO JOHN HOPKINS BAYVIEW AND THEY SAY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST HOSPITAL AND IN THE UNITED STATES FOR THAT KIND OF A PROBLEM, SO CERTAINLY IN MADE ME NOT THAT I DIDN'T HAVE MY EYES ALREADY OPEN, BUT THEY WERE WIDE OPEN WHEN I'M WATCHING THE BOMER COUNTY AMBULANCE PULL UP IN MY DRIVEWAY. AND NOT A HARFORD COUNTY AMBULANCE, SO YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. THANK YOU, SIR. I WILL TELL YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE HAD A COUPLE EPISODES TWO DAYS IN ONE WEEK ON A MONDAY AND TUESDAY WHEREVER A TWO HOUR HOUR PERIOD WE HAD OVER 30 AMBULANCE CALLS. IN THE COUNTY AND THE TWO HOUR PERIOD, SO I MEAN, THAT'S HOW BUSY ARE AMBULANCES HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNTY. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MR. JAN JORDANA. GOOD EVENING, MR AYERS. UM, I THINK YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT CLEANED UP OVER HERE. AREN'T YOU KIND OF NOTICED THAT SO, UH, ANYWAY I AM. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS WELL. UH TWO WEEKS AGO. MY FATHER 88 PULL THAT A NEWLY SHARPENED CUT CONE KNIFE AND A DROPPED HIT. HIS LEG IS ON WARFARIN. HE WAS BLEEDING CALLED ME UP. REAL BAD. I GOT OVER THERE. HE HAD IT WRAPPED UP. BLOOD WAS COMING OUT. I

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THANK YOU, MR JAN GIORDANO. UM. STARTING TO NEW CRUISE THIS WEEKEND. IS THAT CORRECT? WE STARTING BEL AIR'S UNIT FOR BELL ARABS MAIN STATION. IN TOWN, AND THEN WE ARE STARTING A UNIT IN NORRISVILLE. ON SATURDAY AS WELL. SO THAT WILL. PUT 13 COUNTY MEDIC UNITS AND SERVICE AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD FOUR. SO WE WENT FROM FLORIDA. 13 COUNTY MEDIC UNITS. VERY GOOD. MISS DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO. MR PRESIDENT. WE HAVE ONE CHIP RILEY. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. PLEASE EVENING CHIP RILEY, 1911 PART BEACH DRIVE, PERRIMAN. UM I'M A BIG SUPPORTER AND ADVOCATE FOR THE FIRE AND E. M S SYSTEM HERE IN HARPER COUNTY. MOST OF YOU KNOW MY BACKGROUND, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS. NOW MOVING THE COUNTY'S FIRE AND E M S SERVICES. IS THEY IN THE PARK? IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION MEANS KEEPING UP WITH THE DEMANDS OF VINES HERE IN THE COUNTY. FUNDING PROJECTS TO IMPROVE THE SERVICES FOR CITIZENS ARE ALWAYS A GOOD THING. THIS BILL WOULD HELP FUNDING FOR MANY PROJECTS SUCH AS IMPROVEMENTS. HAPPENING NOW IN ABERDEEN. FIRE SUBSTATION IMPAIRMENT, PLEASE SUPPORT BUILD 23 DASH THERE WAS EVER WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE, MISS DIXON? THERE IS NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP. MR PRESIDENT. NO ONE ELSE SPEAKING . THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BILL 23 DESKS. 012. AND WE WILL TAKE THIS UP AT

[c. Bill 23-013 (EMS Ambulance Transport-Increase Rates)]

YEAH. SO UM. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL BRINGING FORTH PROPOSAL FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO ALTER THE BUILDING PROCESS FOR OUR AMBULANCE SERVICES. UNDER OUR CURRENT LAW , UM, WE ENACTED BACK IN 2018. I'M IN ORDER TO DEFRAY THE COST OF AMBULANCE SERVICES. WE SET OUR BUILDING RATES EQUAL TO THE MEDICARE ALLOWABLE RATE FREE TRANSPORTATION. UM, KIND OF THE IDEA THAT MOST OF OUR TRANSPORTS WE'RE GOING TO BE PROBABLY MEDICARE RELATED. UM, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THAT THAT WOULD CHANGE CHANGE OVER TIME. WE ALSO ALLOWED PART OF TREASURY TO ADOPT RULES AND REGULATIONS OF KIND OF THE COLLECTION OF CHARGES FOR ANY WAIVERS. UM BEFORE FOURTH IN RULES AND REGULATIONS, WE HAVE ADOPTED RULES AND REGULATIONS AND MOST NOTABLE OF THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS. UM IS THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE AGREED TO ACCEPT WHATEVER IS THE INSURANCE PAYMENT. WHATEVER SO WE DON'T DO BALANCE BUILDING. UM WE WOULDN'T GO AFTER THE INDIVIDUAL FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SO WHAT? WHAT THE

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WE'RE GOING AFTER INDIVIDUALS WHO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT UNDER BUILDING THE PRIVATE INSURANCE. UM PRIVATE INSURANCE CARRIERS, SO YOU CAN KIND OF LOOK AT THIS STUDY HERE, WHICH SHOWS WHICH HAS DONE BY OUR BUILDING GROUP, UM, WHICH PROVIDED A COMPARISON OF THE SOUTHERN REGION OF THE OF THE U. S. YOU CAN SEE THE TOP LINE DEALS WITH OUR ACTUAL RATES.

THOSE ARE THE MEDICARE RATES YOU SEE FOR L S EMERGENCY ABOUT, UM, ABOUT VISION GETS NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR VISION OF OUR VISION PLAN MORE, UM AT 505 OR A L S TWO. IT'S 7 31 IN OUR BLS EMERGENCY AT 4 25. WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT. THIS COMPARISON STUDY YOU CAN SEE THAT WE WERE AT THE CERTAINLY AT THE LOW END OF ANY OF THE OF THE REGION'S RATES. UM AND THAT IF WE WANTED TO TRY TO GET UP TO THE AVERAGE OR THE MEDIAN, UM, WHAT WE COULD DO IS ELEVATE OUR RATES. SO WHAT WE OPTED TO DO IS TO TAKE THE MEDICARE RATE, WHICH AGAIN CHANGES EACH AND EVERY YEAR, UM, AND ADD 75% AND YOU CAN SEE THAT 75% FOR ALS EMERGENCY TAKES YOU UP TO 84. RAY LS 2 TO 12 80, THEN FOR BLS EMERGENCIES UP TO 77 45 AND AGAIN, THAT KIND OF PUTS YOU IN THAT IN THAT AVERAGE RANGE AND THAT MEDIAN RANGE AND AS I SAID BEFORE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BALANCE BILL. WE'RE JUST BASICALLY LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CHARGING AT RATES THAT ARE LOWER THAN WHAT INSURANCE PROVIDERS WOULD WOULD PAY. UM ALSO, OF COURSE, WHEN WE LOOK AROUND THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, THESE RATES WILL STILL BE LOWER THAN WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING CECIL COUNTY AND ON PAR WITH WHAT'S LARGELY BEING CHARGED IN A LOT OF THEM. METROPOLITAN AREAS AS WELL.

OKAY? UM WHAT'S OUR HISTORY BEEN WITH BILLY? HAVE WE HAVE WE DONE OR DUE DILIGENCE AND BUILDING IN THE PAST? WELL I MEAN AGAIN, WHAT WE WHAT WE DO IS WE DON'T HAVE A VERY ACTIVE COLLECTION PROCESS. I MEAN, THERE IS A LIMITED COLLECTION PROCESS WITH UM, WITH WITH BUILDING AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO, UM DO MORE IN THE LINES OF GETTING OUR BUILDING AT LEAST AS FAR AS WHAT WE ARE BUILDING IN LINE WITH WHAT MORE MARKET RATES WHAT MORE MARKET RATES ARE? UM BUT I THINK IT WAS THE KIND OF THE TAKE OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION ALSO THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, THEN YOU KNOW THEY WERE NOT. WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO ENGAGE IN VERY AGGRESSIVE COLLECTION. UM UH, VERY AGGRESSIVE COLLECTION PATTERNS FOR THE MOST WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH WITH WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE PROVIDING. THERE IS A WAIVER PROCESS. ASSESS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT INSURED AS WELL. COUNCIL, MR PEARLMAN.

MR CHANDLER'S THANK YOU. UM I THINK HERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH A FEE VERSUS GOING TO COST YOU MORE TO CALL 911, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO COST YOU MORE FOR AN AMBULANCE RIDE. UM, IF YOU

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WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO HERE IS WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING TO RAISE FEES ON ANYONE TO RAISE ANY OUT OF POCKET COSTS WERE LOOKING TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE FEES ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE INSURANCE PROVIDERS ARE PROVIDING. SO UM, THE INDIVIDUAL SHOULD NOT SEE ANY ANY INCREASE , NECESSARILY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A RULES AND PROCEDURES TO ACCEPT WHAT? UM WHAT? HIS WHAT THE INSURANCE CARRIER PROVIDES. SO I GUESS THE INSURANCE COMPANIES MIGHT POTENTIALLY LOSE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE. I MEAN, IT'S WE'LL SEE OVER TIME. WE KNOW THAT THE MEDICARE RATE IS WHAT IT IS. WE KNOW THAT THE THAT THAT, UM THE MEDICAID RATE IS WHAT IT IS. AND SO THIS CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT THERE ON AND I OFTEN FIND MANY TIMES THAT EVEN ON THE PRIVATE INSURANCE THAT I'M THE RATES THAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES KIND OF COME BACK WITH UNDERWOOD'S INELIGIBLE EXPENSES , SOMETIMES EVEN LOWER ANYWAY, SO YOU KNOW AGAIN, I THINK WELL , WILL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE NECESSARILY INCREASING FEES ON ON ANY RESIDENTS OR VISITORS TO THE COUNTY. I THINK POTENTIALLY , YOU KNOW THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES COULD BE PROVIDED COULD BE PAYING SOME EXTRA. UM AND I GUESS YOU COULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THAT COULD THAT COULD CARRY OVER THAT WOULD RESULT IN HIGHER COPAYS AND ALL ALL THESE THINGS, BUT EVEN LIKE AT YOUR AT YOUR OWN MOVIE, LIKE THE SAME THOUGH, AT YOUR AT YOUR OWN, DOCTOR, YOU KNOW YOUR YOUR DOCTOR MIGHT SUBMIT OUT AT A HIGHER RATE. BUT THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS GONNA IS GONNA SAY THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR THIS AMBULANCE SERVICE. SO WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THE INSURANCE COMPANY SAYS THIS IS WHAT WE PAY, AND WE'RE BUILDING THIS, THEN THE INSURANCE COMPANIES GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE'LL PAY THAT. UM BUT IF THERE IF WE'RE SAYING THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CHARGING, AND THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE PAY. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY. UM AND THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO AFTER THEM AFTER THE USERS, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT BALANCE, BILLING? UM IT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT IN ESSENCE LEAVING MONEY ON ON THE TABLE. I'M CONFUSED ON HOW THAT WORKS. YOU KNOW THE SYSTEM I HAVE YOU PAY 10% SO IF YOU GET TAKEN AMBULANCE RIDE, IT'S YOU KNOW, 1000. AND DOLLARS. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE BILLBOARD MOUNT. YOU KNOW, I'M I'M PAYING 10% OF ELIGIBLE OF ELIGIBLE COSTS. SO LIKE, UM, THE NEXT TIME YOU, UM IF WHEN, WHEN? BECAUSE I'M ON THE SAME INSURANCE THAT YOU ARE, UM, WHEN IT COMES IN, YOU'LL SEE THIS IS THIS IS THE BUILD AMOUNT. THIS IS THE ELIGIBLE AMOUNT AND THEN YOU WOULD PAY 10% OF THAT ELIGIBLE AMOUNT. UM NOT ON THE TOTAL COST. SO IN ESSENCE, IT'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT, IN ESSENCE UNDER BUILDING THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. SO I SEE THE COMPARISON HERE, UM, WITH THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS, BUT IN COMPARISON OF JURISDICTIONS, UM DO WE KNOW THAT COMPARISON ON CECIL COUNTY IN BALTIMORE COUNTY? I MEAN, SEE CECIL COUNTY FOR AILES. EMERGENCY IS 13 59 LS LS 2 16 75 BLS EMERGENCY 9 20 WHEREAS BALTIMORE COUNTY IS PRETTY MUCH 707 50 BALTIMORE COUNTY. JUST IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO. THEY WERE. THEY WERE ONE OF THE LAST ONES TO TRY TO GET INTO THE INTO THE AMBULANCE BUILDING AREA AND A LOT OF THE COUNTIES. THE MORE SUBURBAN COUNTIES HAVE HAVE A STANDARD AMOUNT OF THAT 700 OR 7, 50 OR 800 RANGE. UM SO OUR RATE WOULD BE WOULD BE HIGHER THAN THAT. HOWEVER IT WOULD BE LOWER THAN THE CECIL COUNTY RAID. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPARISON STUDY OF THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN REGION OF THE US, UM WE WOULD WE WOULD BE MUCH MORE IN LINE WITH THE AVERAGE IN THE MEDIAN COST THERE. ALRIGHT I'M GONNA KIND OF TOTALLY TRANSFER TRANSITION FROM THE AMBULANCE FEE INCREASE BECAUSE THERE IS A WHOLE ANOTHER SEGMENT OF THIS BILL. THAT UH, YOU KNOW, DEALS WITH THE AUTHORITY OF THE DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICES. ESSENTIALLY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OVER VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES. SO UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT THE COUNTY AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE NEXT BIT OF LIKE THAT'S IS THAT THE NEXT THIS BILL TO THIS ONE. I'M SORRY. IT IS IN THIS ONE. MY APOLOGIES AND THE THINK THAT'S KIND OF AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK IT KIND OF TOOK A LOT TO GET EVERYTHING EVERYTHING OVER.

BUT YES. WELL SO JUST IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M JUST GONNA READ THIS BOTTOM PORTION, SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. THE BILL WOULD ALSO GIVE THE DIRECTOR DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICES THE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH THE FACILITATE FIRE RESCUE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE COUNTY, THE HARFORD COUNTY VOLUNTEER FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED MADE APPEAL DECISIONS MADE BY THE DIRECTOR DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FINAL DETERMINATION. AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH WITH THIS IS THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OR THE COUNTY MINISTRATIONS OF TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE FIRE COMPANIES RIGHT, SO THIS WOULD GIVE THE ALMOST COMPLETE AUTHORITY TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION. YOU ESSENTIALLY AND THEN THROUGH THE COUNTY MINISTRATIONS, SO, UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CONFERRING WITH THE ASSOCIATION OF FIRE ASSOCIATION. BUT THERE THERE'S

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THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR THE REST OF THAT MONEY, SO IT WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR COPAY OR ANYTHING ELSE. THEY'RE GOING TO ACCEPT WHAT? WHAT'S PAID? WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN CHARGING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY. ON A LOT OF THESE LESS THAN WHAT MEDICARE WOULD EVEN PAY CORRECT, SO THERE'S A GAP THERE AND THAT THAT GAP LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE NARROWED, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A COST OUT OF ANYBODY'S POCKET OR AN INCREASE IN ANYBODY'S COPAY OR ANYTHING. THAT'S WHAT BALANCED BUDGET BILLING MEANS IS THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE CHARGED FOR ANYTHING OVER WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY PAYS WHERE THEY PAY FOR IT. THAT'S IT. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T GO TO COLLECTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM DO WE USE OUR OWN BILLING DEPARTMENT? DO WE USE A THIRD PARTY BILLING THIRD PARTY MEDICAL BUILDING IS VERY, VERY COMPLICATED, BUT WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP. WE USE QUICK MEDS. UM WHICH IS WHO MISSES THE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES IN THE COUNTY USED AS WELL. UM AND OF COURSE WITHIN THE DS. HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LARGELY WORKING ON BUILDING AND OF COURSE, I HAVE PEOPLE IN TREASURY THAT ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THEM. UM AS WELL AND OF COURSE, THIS THIS PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I FOUND MYSELF LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT IT AS AS WELL AND QUITE A FEW CALLS. DID YOU DO AN ANALYSIS OF HOW MUCH MORE WE WOULD COLLECT? UM FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANIES BASED ON THE RATES THAT WE SHOULD BE CHARGING. IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY, UM, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT IT'S ABOUT THE MEDICARE MEDICAID VIA ALL OF THAT. THAT'S AROUND 75% OR SO IT'S ABOUT 25% BUT EVEN THEN, DEPENDING ON THE PRIVATE INSURANCE BECAUSE THERE ARE YEAH , IT'S YOU IT AGAIN. IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY HOW MUCH YOU KNOW HOW MUCH A BELOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE. WE'RE WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH QUICK MEDS TO TRY TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, BUT, UM I THINK REALLY TIME WILL TELL ON ON A LOT OF THAT PART, BUT I DON'T EXPECT I DON'T EXPECT IT, THOUGH TO BE. DON'T EXPECT OUR REVENUES. ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, THOUGH, JUST GOT 75% YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY DON'T DON'T DON'T EXPECT THAT. I THINK IT WILL BE MUCH MORE MARGINAL. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. UM MY QUESTION IS MORE SO. JUST PROCEDURAL. UM BECAUSE YOU KNOW , THIS IS A BILL THAT ITS PRIMARY FOCUS IS THIS FEE ADJUSTMENT BUT THEN IN IT IS ALSO, UH, THIS REFERENCE TO GIVING AUTHORITY TO THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHICH COUNCILMAN PENMAN SPOKE TO AND IN THE RULES AND PROCEDURES OF THE HARFORD COUNTY COUNCIL SECTION SIX A STATES THAT EVERY WALL EXCEPT FOR THE BUDGET LAW AND SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION LAWS, SEAN BREEZE. BUT ONE SUBJECT AND SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS ADJUSTMENT. BILL IS ALSO , UH, THIS PIECE ABOUT YOU KNOW THE AUTHORITY GIVEN TO THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.

I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS IN THE SAME SECTION AND THAT IT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED TOGETHER BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE SAME. UM IN THE IN THE SAME SECTION OF THE OF THE CODE, BUT I'LL I MEAN, I'LL DEFER TO, UM UH TO COUNSEL ATTORNEY OR AGAIN. THAT WAS OUR THAT WAS OUR UNDER. THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF WE WERE TO PASS, YOU KNOW, BILL NUMBER 23 13. BUT THEN NOT PASS. JUST HYPOTHETICALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT PASSED BILL 23-15 WHEN THAT CREATE AN INCONSISTENCY IN WHAT THE CODE SAYS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THAT ADDED LANGUAGE TO 23 13 KIND OF EXISTS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT 23-15 ALSO PASSES UM AND THEN AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A CODE THAT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH ITSELF BECAUSE OF THE THEY SEEMS LIKE THAT LANGUAGE IN 23 13 SHOULD EITHER BE ADDED AT 23 15 AND BE THERE OR, UM, BE ITS OWN SEPARATE BILL, BUT ADDING IT IN MAKES IT MESSY. ON HOW HOW IT AFFECTS THE CODE. IF WE VOTE YES, ON ONE AND NO ONE THE OTHER YEAH, AND I THINK THAT AND THAT WAS WHY IT WAS A WHY ALL THESE LAW UM, BILLS WERE KIND OF BROUGHT TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO HIM. ALL ALL IN THE SAME NIGHT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME THERE WAS SOME OVERLAP. WHICH I GUESS CREATE SOME OF THESE LOGISTICAL SOME OF THESE LOGISTICAL ISSUES. RIGHT. AM I ASKING THE COUNCIL ATTORNEY? AM I RIGHT IN MY UNDERSTANDING OF

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BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST LINE OF THE BILL, IT'S JANUARY RELATING TO DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES, WHICH IS SORT OF LIKE CATCH UP. MOST BILLS HAVE WRITTEN THAT WAY, SO AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE AMBIT ON THE DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT THEN IT COVERS ONE SUBJECT, AND THIS BILL DOES IN FACT, COVER ONE SUBJECT, ALTHOUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THAT SUBJECT OKAY? THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. MR GUTHRIE, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVING TO NEGOTIATE A LOT OF REPORTING AGREEMENTS WITH HEALTHCARE AND HEALTHCARE USUALLY NUMBER ONE. EVERY TIME YOU GET STARTED TRYING TO GET STRAIGHTENED OUT THERE ALL VERY COMMON AND VERY THE SAME THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW IS THAT THE EMPLOYEE OF THE COMPANY THAT COUNTY WHATEVER YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO BUILD AS HIGH AS YOU CAN TO MAKE SURE YOU GET ALL THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS GOING TO PAY AND NOT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE THE PERSON THE DIFFERENCE. SO IF, IF YOU CHARGE $1000 AND THE BILLS AND THE INSURANCE COMPANY WILL PAY 900, THEN YOU'RE EARLY. YOU'RE TAKING 900. THAT'S HOW MOSTLY ALL OF THEM WORK. I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? EXACTLY OKAY. ALSO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARBITRATION ARBITRATION IS BINDING OR WOULDN'T BE ARBITRATION. MEDIATION IS NOT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. BUT ANYONE ELSE UM, THE ONLY. ONE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ASK, THOUGH, I KNOW THE VOLUNTEERS HAVE BEEN BUILDING SINCE WHEN YEAH. HAVE YOU EVER TURNED ANYONE AWAY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PAY A BILL. I SENT MY COMPANY NEVER SAID ANYONE. TAKE CARE FORCES US TO DO WRITE IT OFF STILL ABOUT AROUND YOUR BODY. I KNEW THAT. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? MR PRESIDENT? CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING QUICK? IF YOU'RE RIDING IN THE AMBULANCE, YOU AIN'T GONNA GIVE A WHAT IT COSTS. MHM MISS DIXON , DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP CHIP RILEY? GOOD EVENING, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, CHIP RILEY AGAIN BEACH AVENUE IMPAIRMENT. HMM. UM THIS BILL ALLOWS A MORE SUITABLE AND AMBULANCE AMBULANCE FEED PROGRAM THAT IS MORE COMPARABLE TO OTHER COUNTIES IN MARYLAND. I DID LOOK AND IT DOES MAKE IT VERY, VERY COMPARABLE. THOSE FEES WILL GO TO HELPING THE COUNTY AMS SYSTEM TO BECOME MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT. SO SAYING PLEASE SUPPORT THIS SIDE OF THE OF THE BILL. THE OTHER SIDE I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO, AND I CAN'T REFER TO THAT. AT THIS TIME, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON? NO MR PRESIDENT WITH NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BILL 23, DESKS , 013, AND WE WILL TAKE IT UP AT

[d. Bill 23-015 (Amendment to Chapter 28 Fire- Ambulance and Rescue Organization)]

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GOOD NAME, SURNAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN, PLEASE. RILEY. MY NAME'S ON RECORD, I THINK BY NOW OR THE ADDRESS. AGREE ON THE VERBAL CHANGES AND TIDYING UP THE GRAY AREAS IN THE BILL. ALSO HAVING THE DIRECTOR RESPONSIBLE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES COVERAGE IS BETTER SUITED THAN HAVING EACH INDIVIDUAL FIRING M S COMPANY FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SUCH A DIFFICULT COVERAGE SHORTAGE TIME, SO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS BILL 23 DASHES HERE, 15. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. 100 DRIVE DOLLAR IN MARYLAND. AND, UH, LIFETIME PAST PRESIDENT BELLAIRE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY. I'M ALSO TRUSTED TO THE HARFORD COUNTY VOLUNTEER IN THE OF OUR NEED FOR DREW TMS ASSOCIATION. ASSOCIATION OF WAS GIVEN THIS BILL. THE LAST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH IN MARCH, AND IT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL OF THE FIRST WEEK OF PAPER. WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT, BUT WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULD OFFER AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL. WHICH WE MADE A MOTION TO HAVE IT. THIRD PARTY ARBITRATOR. ARBITRATE ANY DISPUTES BETWEEN THE ASSOCIATION AND DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICES. WE WOULD FULLY SUPPORT THE BILL WITHOUT AMENDMENT IN IT . THE TRUSTEES HAVE ALREADY VOTED TO DO THAT. AND AS SUCH, I WANT TO MAKE THIS PERFECT ONE THING REALLY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS. NO NEGATIVITY ON THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES WE'VE WORKED UNDER. DIRECTOR STRICTLY DIRECTOR HOPKINS AND NOW DIRECTOR AIRS WITH NO PROBLEMS AND NO ISSUES. ANYTHING DID ARISE WAS ABLE TO BE NEGOTIATED OR OR COMMUNICATED TO EVERYBODY'S LIKING. MR PEMON HAD IT RIGHT? THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED THAT. ARBITRATOR IN IN BETWEEN THE EXACT AND THE D. E S. READ. RECRUITING AND RETAINING VOLUNTEERS IS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S FINE LINE.

WE WALK SOMETIMES TO DO THAT. AND COURSE FIRE SERVICES STEEPED IN TRADITION, AND THIS IS A BIG CHANGE FOR US HAVING USED THE DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICES HAVE MORE OVERSIGHT THAN EVER HAD BEFORE, BUT I BELIEVE WITH THE CURRENT PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE THERE NOW IT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. BUT LIKE MR PAEMEN SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD AND OTHER COUNTIES, RIGHT ISSUES. THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IN OUR COUNTY. I APPRECIATE THAT GESTURE ON THEIR PART TO ARBITRATION, AND I HOPE THE COUNTY COUNCIL GREECE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. WILLIAM DUSA. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. PLEASE FILL DUSA 600 RIVER SHORE COURT. EDGEWOOD MARYLAND. UH, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE HARFORD COUNTY VOLUNTEER FIRE AND E. M S ASSOCIATION AND QUICKLY. ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY IS THAT THE ASSOCIATION AS TONY SAID HAS VOTED TO SUPPORT THIS BILL WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO, UH COUNCIL PRESIDENT BEEN SENDING? UM SO, UH WE'RE READY TO MOVE AHEAD IF WE CAN GET THE AMENDMENT THROUGH THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. WITH NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 23-0 15 . MR AYERS JUST TOLD THAT THE AMENDMENT WAS BRITAIN WRITTEN TODAY SO WE CAN SEND GOING TO SAY I DON'T HAVE AN AMENDMENT YET. SO IT WAS WRITTEN TODAY. YES, THAT'S FINE. JUST WANTED FOR THE JUST FOR THE RECORD. I DON'T HAVE AN AMENDMENT YET. HAVEN'T YET EITHER TOLD THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP AGAIN. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. IT WILL BE TAKEN UP AT A FUTURE MEETING. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT RECESS. AND WE'LL B. THREE. GOOD EVENING. CHAIR CALLS OVER

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]

EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENTS. HARVARD SOUL CONSERVATION, BORDERS SUPERVISORS MAY HAVE A MOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT OF RUTH CASSILLY. YOU HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IT'S MOVING A SECOND TO APPROVE MISCAST LEE, THE HARFORD SOIL CONSERVATION BORDER SUPERVISORS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON, MR PRESIDENT. MR GUTHRIE PENMAN. MR. GIORDANO MR. RILEY SADDLED, MR BENNETT I SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO AND NEGATIVE. THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED. CITIZENS NURSING HOME BORDER DIRECTORS MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVED TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT OF KATHY VINCENTI 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT OF MISS VINCENTI, THE CITIZENS NURSING HOME BOARD OF DIRECTORS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IF I MAY, UM. MS VINCENTI IS MARRIED TO MY COUSIN . UM SHE IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF HARVARD DEGREES. HER FATHER WAS THE PAST MAYOR OF HAVING GRACE FRANK HUTCHINS. HE ALSO SERVED ON THIS COUNCIL FOR YEARS . I DO BELIEVE THAT SHE IS GOING TO BE AN EXCELLENT PERSON FOR THAT ROLE ON THE BORDER DIRECTORS THERE. BUT ALSO I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE, MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT ABSTAIN. MR GUTHRIE PENMAN. MR JAN GIORDANO. MR RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. I BEING SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ONE ABSTENTION. THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED. AGENDA NUMBER SIX SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE NONE. SEVEN APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[9. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS]

[14. NEW BUSINESS]

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VEHICLES FOR FACILITIES ARE EMPLOYEES OF OUR FOOD AND NUTRITION WORKERS. UM WE VERY RARELY RECEIVE ANY FUNDING TO REPLACE THOSE VEHICLES, AND WE RELY ON FUND BALANCE TO ADDRESS THOSE REPLACEMENT NEEDS. WE'RE ASKING. UM YOU KNOW, FOR THREE POINT $500,000 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS FOR A WHITE FLEET. OUR FACILITIES, UM, GROUNDS DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE TRACTORS AND EQUIPMENT THAT WE USE TO MAINTAIN OUR GROUNDS. UM AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER ACCOUNT. WE HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDED FOR IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. WE'RE LOOKING FOR $600,000 TO REPLACE THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT. UM UNDER OUR TECHNOLOGY, UM, BUDGET , UM TOTAL OF 10 POINT 6,000,006 0.5 MILLION FOR, UM OUR ORACLE IMPLEMENTATION. UM YOU KNOW COST WHERE THERE'S SOME LICENSING FEE . UM CONTINGENCY. WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER WORKING WITH US AND WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM UM, INCLUDE SOME TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM. RIGHT NOW. WE PRETTY MUCH ARE ON THE PAPER PROCESS FOR PUNCH CARDS AND RECORDING OUR PAYROLL AND PROCESSING OUR PAYROLL. UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD THAT AS WE UPGRADE UM YOU KNOW OUR OUR E R. P SYSTEM. UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY. UM REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET FOR DEVICE REFRESH NETWORK SWITCHES. UM POWER SUPPLY FOR A NETWORK CLOSETS. SOME FIREWALL, UM, END OF LIFE WARRANTY REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN SOME ACCESS POINT REFRESH THAT'S ROLLED UP INTO THAT TECHNOLOGY REQUESTS. UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL LIFE AND HEALTH AND SAFETY COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT TOTAL $2.1 MILLION THAT WOULD INCLUDE FIRE ALARM UPGRADES THAT FOSTER MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, SOME ACCESS CONTROL UPGRADES. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU COME TO THE SCHOOL, YOU HAVE OUR PRACTICE CARD SWIPE AT OUR BUILDING. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SYSTEM WIDE STAFF BADGE UPGRADES THROUGH OUR OFFICES, SAFETY AND SECURITY. WE ALSO HAVE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK AT NORTH HARFORD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT WE LIKE TO UM, REPLACED AND THEN UM, JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF $60,000 CONSIDERING ALL THAT WE'RE ASKING AN OLD POST TO BE PLACED THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION SYSTEM AT THAT SCHOOL. UM ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE CARE OF SOMEONE

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AND THE LICENSING FEES. IS THAT A ONE TIME EVENT OR IS THAT AN ONGOING THAT'S AN ONGOING THAT'S AN ONGOING FEE. WE DO HAVE THAT BUILT INTO OUR OPERATING BUDGET . WE PAY A LICENSING FEE FOR OUR CURRENT E R P SYSTEM. NOW UM THERE'S GONNA BE A TIME PERIOD WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING THAT FEE TO MAINTAIN THE OLD SYSTEM AND THE NEW FEE. UM THIS IS KIND OF A BUFFER IN CASE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THE OPERATING TO COVER IT. THE FEES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR ORACLE THAN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM. BUT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM GOES BACK TO THE IMPLEMENTATION BETWEEN 97 GOING LIVE IN 99, SO IT'S A VERY ARCHAIC SYSTEM. SAME THING WITH THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING FEE CORRECT. THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM , I BELIEVE WOULD BE AN IMPLEMENTATION FEE. THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS TO RUN THAT EGYPT CORNELL IS A LITTLE BIT MORE FAMILIAR, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY FOR EPISODE. THE TIMEKEEPING. WE HAVE TO PROCURE IT, SO WE HAVEN'T SO THIS IS THE BUDGET ESTIMATE FOR THE TIMEKEEPING SYSTEM. SO WE HAVE TO PUT OUT AN RFP AND GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE SELECTION PROCESS. SO WE'RE NOT EVEN THERE YET, BUT THIS GIVES US THE AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD. SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PLAYERS IN THIS MARKET BECAUSE OF THE KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 12 THE ISSUE THAT YOU SAID PAYDAY WAS ONE AND THEY DON'T OFFER ANY MORE AND IT WORK WORK ALL LAWSON , WE INTERVIEWED, UM, SHORTLISTED DOWN IN LIKE THREE OR FOUR COMPANIES THAT ACTUALLY PRESENTED AND YOU KNOW, SUBMITTED THEIR INFORMATION. SO ORACLE WAS THE SUCCESSFUL VENDOR AFTER GOING THROUGH THAT SOLICITATION PROCESS, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR JANE GORDON AND MR PENTON. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JUST TO COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE PRESENTATION, UM, AND PASSED MY APPRECIATION OFF TO DR BOLSON. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT ALL THE SCHOOLS IN MY DISTRICT OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS THAT TALKED TO THE DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATORS AND THE STAFF. PERSONNEL AT THE SCHOOLS JUST TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET AND IMPACT EACH SCHOOL WOULD HAVE. AND IN THAT CONVERSATION, THERE WAS STRUCTURAL ISSUES, CAPITAL PROJECTS AND A LOT OF WHAT, NOT EVERYTHING. I CAN'T SPEAK TO EVERYTHING. BUT THERE WERE A FEW THINGS IN THE DIFFERENT LIGHT ITEMS HERE THAT YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO BE USED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I WAS SHOWING AT THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, SO IF YOU COULD PASS ON MY APPRECIATION FOR THE STAFF EACH OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT BEING THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR PENMAN. MR GUTHRIE. WANT TO THANK YOU. I THINK YOU GOT YOU GOT A LIST HERE. YOU GOT TO DO A LOT OF WORK ON. I CAN SEE. ONE THING I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT IS WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE I WAS HAD A HUGE PROBLEM WITH US , AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET RID OF THEM. IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE WE GOT SOME MORE BACK TO RELOCATE HERBAL. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOLS. WE HAD 90 OF THEM AT ONE TIME, AND THAT WAS A LOT AND WE GOT WHAT IRRITATED ME. AND THIS IS BACK 2002 TO 2012 OR 14. AND WHAT REALLY GOT ME WAS EVERY TIME THEY HAD TO MOVE ONE FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER COURSE ABOUT 30 GRAND AND MY RIGHT THERE IS MORE THAN THAT. NOW I KNOW MORE THAT NOW. I MEAN THAT THAT SHOCKED ME ENOUGH BECAUSE IT'S JUST ELECTRIC. THERE'S NO PLUMBING TO FIX UP OR NOTHING, BECAUSE THEN ANYWAY, NONE OF THEM HAD ANY. UH PLUMBING FIXTURES. IT WAS HOW MANY THOUGHT YET TO GO TO THE MAIN SCHOOL WITH THE KIDS HAD TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, AND IF THEY PICKED UP, RELOCATED AND TOOK IT FROM POINT A TO POINT BEING WHEREVER IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE 30 GRAND. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT THE HOOK UP A TRAILER. TO A TRUCK DRIVER FROM POINT A TO POINT B CAUTION, ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO WHAT'S IT COST NOW? UM, JUST TO RELOCATE, UM LIKE 80 GRAND NOW, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN A TRAILER COST. LOOK AT WE'RE NOT RELOCATED WILL NOW COST LIKE $200,000. OKAY, WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE COSTING. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT SITE WORK. YOU'RE LOOKING AT DECKING THAT YOU KNOW, AND THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS THE ELECTRICAL WORK, SO ALL OF THAT IS PERMITTED. AND UM , THAT'S JUST THE GOING RATE, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DESIGN PULL PERMITS AND BIT. WE BID IT OUT. UM AND WE GET THE, UM, THE LOW BIDDER. AND WE AWARD, YOU KNOW, PROJECT BY PROJECT SO THESE UNITS WILL ADDRESS AGAIN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING NEW NOT RELOCATED WERE DOWN 40 SOMETHING UNITS NOW, UM, BUT NOW AGAIN, NOT TO BE REDUNDANT. UM BUT TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR SPACE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE THEY HAD

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GOOD EVENING, SIR. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, SANTA AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO REQUEST . AN ADDITIONAL OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO ASSIST THE WAR DEPARTMENT WITH LITIGATION IN THE POLICE AND CORRECTIONAL OFFICER LIABILITY AREA AND PERHAPS IN THE EMPLOYMENT AREAS. WELL WE HAVE ONE OUTSIDE COUNSEL ROSENBERG MARTIN GREENBERG THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. I'M LOOKING AT THIS FORM BASED ON MY PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THIS FIRM IN THE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE, THIS FORM HASN'T REALLY THE SPECIALIZATION THAT THIS FIRM HAS WITH RESPECT TO POLICE LIABILITY AND CORRECTIONAL OFFICER ISSUES. THEY REALLY THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS OF THEIR PRACTICE, ALONG WITH EMPLOYMENT WIDE ISSUES FOR OVER 30 YEARS, THEY'VE HANDLED THESE ISSUES FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT INSURANCE TRUST FOREVER. 30 YEARS. THAT'S THE INSURANCE TRUST IN MARYLAND, REPRESENTS A LOT OF MARYLAND MUNICIPALITIES, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE COUNTIES, PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE SMALLER AND MEDIUM SIZED COUNTY. SO THIS FORM REALLY? THAT'S HER SPECIALIZATION. THE RATES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE RATES OF ROSENBERG, MARTIN GREENBERG, BUT ALSO I THINK THERE'LL BE AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE. I'M HOPING, ADDITIONALLY TO USE THEM. FOR A FEW TANGENTIAL ISSUES, SUCH AS POLICY REVIEW. WITH THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY AND FOR

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QUIST THANK YOU, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE I AM SUPPORTIVE OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS BEING INVOLVED IN ISSUES THAT RELATE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CORRECTIONS. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SPIN ON IT, THOUGH, WHEN YOU SPOKE ABOUT IT ABOUT THE REVIEW OF THE POLICY AND PROCEDURES, UM NOW I KNOW WE HAVE SOME VICTIM ADVOCATES ATTORNEYS THAT WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WORK AT THE VICTIM ADVOCATE ROLE AS WELL AS OVERVIEW TEAM, UM, FOR POLICY PROCEDURES WITH THIS OUTSIDE FIRM, OR YOU BE WORKING WITH THOSE TWO ATTORNEYS NAMED MELISSA LAMBERT AND, UH, CHRISTA BONE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.

AH! WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY HAVE SENT OVER. THEY HAVE SENT OVER POLICIES THEY'VE SENT OVER THREE POLICIES SINCE I'VE BEEN TO CORRECTIONAL OFFICER POLICIES AND ONE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER POLICY, ASKING FOR OUR OR INPUT ON THOSE ISSUES. SINCE I'VE TAKEN THE SEAT AS COUNTY ATTORNEY IN DECEMBER. AND I'VE BEEN QUITE CANDIDLY. LOOK I CAN I CAN HELP. I CAN GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT MY THOUGHTS ARE GOING TO BE WHAT MORE ADVANCED IN THE THOUGHTS THAT DID YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN FROM YOUR IN HOUSE PEOPLE. I LOOK AT THIS FARM AS A RESOURCE . THIS IS THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. THEY LIVE IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT. THEY'RE WORKING THE CASES, DAN AND DOUBT. AND THEY'VE ALSO WORKED WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT INSURANCE TRUST, WHICH IS RETAINED FROM TIME TO TIME. OUTSIDE EXPERTS IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICY. UPDATES. THEY USED TO. THEY USED TO ASSIST JOHN BREED. SHE USED TO WRITE THE ROLL CALL REPORTER. FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT INSURANCE TRUST BEFORE HE RETIRED AND THAT AND THAT WAS KIND OF A MONTHLY PUBLICATION THAT HE PUT OUT WITH NEW CASES FROM THE SUPREME COURT OR THE FOURTH CIRCUIT OR OR THE MARYLAND STATE APPELLATE COURTS WITH DECISIONS THAT IMPACTED CRIMINAL ON CRIMINAL PROCEDURE AND WOULD TALK ABOUT PAUL C AND ADJUSTMENTS THAT WANT FORCE MINT OFFICERS HAD TO CONSIDER MAKING IN TERMS OF THEIR THEIR PAST PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES BECAUSE OF THOSE LEGAL CHANGES, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, AND I'D RATHER HAVE THAT KIND OF ADVICE. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S CUTTING EDGE THAT KEEPS US CURRENT. AND I THINK YOU RECOGNIZE HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. BECAUSE THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET NEED TO KNOW IF THEY NEED TO ADJUST THE PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES BECAUSE THE CHANGES YEAH, AND IN THE

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THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN. ANYONE ELSE? UM HMM. COUNCIL DO THE NATURE OF THIS TIMING THIS REQUEST ALSO, IT WILL BE HANDLED TONIGHT SO MR PENMAN MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE HIRING OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL BY THE COUNTY TO SERVE AS LITIGATION COUNSEL AND SECONDARY COUNCIL ON LEGAL MATTERS PERTINENT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND EMPLOYMENT LAW. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE.

MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE REQUESTS FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON . MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR JAN. JAN. NOW MR RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. I. HER BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE. THE REQUEST FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL IS HEREBY APPROVED. UM, THANK YOU. MR CARNEY WITH YOUR QUESTION EARLIER. MR JANE JORDAN IS GOING TO GO BACK AND REPEAT THE PUBLIC HEARING TIME FOR OF BILL 23 DASH YEAR. 25 JUST TO BE SURE. THANK YOU. 23 DENNIS, YOU'RE 25 MORATORIUM EXTENSION. THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THE BILL WILL BE ON JUNE 20TH 2023 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE EAST CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. UM. AGENDA

[17. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS]

GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. PLEASE YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES. JOHN PEMA LHAMO, 24 02 EAGLE VIEW DRIVE. BELLAIRE, MARYLAND. AT THE DECK HEARING. I ASKED THESE QUESTIONS AND GOT THE ANSWERS FROM THE TAX GERMAN MR. MILTON DAVENPORT'S NOW DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING. FROM THE TRANSCRIPT QUESTION TO THE DOCTOR CHAIRMAN WHO WOULD ADDRESS THE PROJECT OPERATING IN THE FOURTH DIMENSION TIME AND ALTITUDE. HE NOTED THAT COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED CONCERNING THE SURFACE CONDITIONS OF THE AIRPORT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERHEAD TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AS WELL ANSWER, AND THEY AND FAA WOULD DICTATE WHATEVER SPORTS CAN DO AND CANNOT DO AS FAR AS OPERATIONS. QUESTION WOULD COUNTY BE USING ZONING POWERS ANSWER ZONING ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE BOARD OF APPEALS OPERATION AND EXPANSION OF THE AIRPORT WAS OBLIGATED TO GO TO THE BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. STATEMENT.

THIS WAS NOT AN OPERATIONAL PARK. WAS STILL IN THE ZONING AND PLANNING PROCESS, HE SAID.

THE PROJECT WILL CONSTRUCT A NEW AIRPORT INTO AN AGRICULTURAL AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL AREA ANSWER EXPLAINED AGAIN HOW THE PROJECT WAS OBLIGATED TO GO TO THE BOARD OF APPEALS. THE DARK COMMITTEE MUST ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS CASE IS DETERMINED BY THE HEARING EXAMINER AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL. AS INDICATED, AND THEN REVIEW COMMENTS QUESTION HOW MUCH JET FUEL WOULD BE STORED ON THE SITE. ANSWER FROM AIRPORT OWNERS

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GOOD EVENING. IT'S A FACT THAT AIR POLLUTION DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS OF LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. BUT THAT ISN'T BECAUSE PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE POOR PEOPLE ARE INNATELY MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS. IT'S BECAUSE COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE ENACTED AND PERPETUATED DISCRIMINATORY ZONING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT CONCENTRATE UNDESIRABLE AND TOXIC DEVELOPMENTS INTO THESE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. AND THOSE LEADERS WHO FAILED TO ACT FOR CHANGE. THESE COMMUNITIES LIKE PERRY MEN ARE ALSO UNDER SERVED WITH POOR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH LITTLE OR NO TAXPAYER MONEY GOING TO REVITALIZATION OR GENERAL UPKEEP OF STREETS, SIDEWALKS. NOT THAT WE HAVE ANY PARKS, ETCETERA. NO EFFORT OR THOUGHT GIVEN TO UPDATING ENVIRONMENTAL AND WATER QUALITY STUDIES PRIOR TO ALLOWING ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO'S UP HERE CALLING YOU OUT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU'RE STILL VIOLATING HUMAN RIGHTS BY CONTINUING TO ALLOW PERRIMAN TO BE BOMBARDED WITH TOXIC AND DANGEROUS DIESEL TRUCK TRAFFIC AND MEGA WAREHOUSES. LAST YEAR, THE MARYLAND GENERAL ASSEMBLY WITH SUCCESSFUL IN PASSING THE CLIMATE SOLUTIONS ACT NOW NOW ACT WHICH SETS MORE AGGRESSIVE GOALS FOR THE REDUCTION OF GREENHOUSE GASSES WITH A 60% REDUCTION BY 2045 AND ESTABLISHES POLICIES TO ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE BILL IN REBELLIN, RELEVANT HERE IS ITS INVESTMENT IN CLIMATE JUSTICE.

IT DIRECTS THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT TO WORK IN CONSULTATION WITH THE MARYLAND COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES TO STUDY CUMULATIVE IMPACTS AND ESTABLISH STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND ADVANCED CLIMATE EQUITY. THE POLICY ALSO DEFINES THE TERM OVERBURDEN COMMUNITIES AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. USING METRICS IDENTIFIED THROUGH EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND CONSISTS WHAT CONSENSUS WORK. WE KNOW THAT PARAMOUNT ALONE ALREADY FITS INTO THE DESCRIPTION OF OVERBURDEN COMMUNITY GIVEN ITS SIZE, SOCIOECONOMIC AND ETHNIC MAKEUP, AND THAT'S WITH THE CURRENT LEVEL OF INDUSTRIALIZATION. ADD TO THE FACT THAT HARFORD COUNTY HAS ALLOWED NEARLY 100% OF THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN COMMUNITY SOUTH OF I 95 WERE NEARLY 100% OF THE COUNTY'S MINORITY AND LOW INCOME RESIDENTS RESIDE. IT'S VERY CLEAR TO ALL WHAT THE AGENDA HAS BEEN FOR YEARS. WE WILL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THESE AGENCIES TO CONTINUE TO EXPOSE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IMPAIRMENT. THE HANDS OF HARFORD COUNTY AND HELP FIGHT OFF FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS AND WORK TOWARDS RESTITUTION AND REMEDIATION.

PREPARING MINT. ACCESS TO A HEALTHY. AND HELPFUL ENVIRONMENT IS THE BIRTHRIGHT OF ALL CITIZENS, NOT THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN YOUR AREA OR ABOVE 95. THANK YOU. GOODNIGHT.

GOOD NIGHT. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA NUMBER 16

[16. BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS]

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UM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VERY LEAST BE EXTENDED THE MORATORIUM AND WORK TOWARDS THAT , UM SO THAT WE HAVE THE TIME TO DO THE ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO DO TO STRENGTHEN THE BILL. AH UM, TO GET OUR FISCAL ANALYSIS THAT'S NEEDED TO DO THOSE THINGS . SO THAT COME THE FALL TIME IN SEPTEMBER. WHEN WE COME BACK FROM RECESS, SOMETHING CAN BE INTRODUCED THAT WILL ENSURE THAT ALL COMMUNITIES, UH, ARE TAKEN CARE OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS ARE TAKING CARE OF THEM AND THAT THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR COMMUNITIES IN MIND AND THAT WE HAVE A PACKAGE THAT EVERYBODY CAN SWALLOW AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. I'M SORRY, JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. WHO UH, WE'RE THINKING THEY'D BE COMING HERE TO HEAR ABOUT A DIFFERENT BUILDING INTRODUCED TONIGHT. UM ALONG THE SAME LINES, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A FEW PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THE WAREHOUSE WORK BEING DONE ON WOODLEY ROAD RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT AS WELL WHEN I SAW THAT HAPPENING, SO, UH, HEATHER AND I REACHED OUT TO SHANE GRIMM, WHO EXPLAINED TO US THAT THAT WORK WAS APPROVED PRIOR TO THE MORATORIUM, TAKING EFFECT. UM AND THE BUILDING PERMITS AND ALL THAT. WERE THERE IN PLACE. UM SO THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE GOT FROM SHANE GRIM ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN WOODLEY ROAD RIGHT NOW, UM AND ALONG THOSE DIFFERENT LINES MOVING ALONG NEXT WEEKEND.

SATURDAY MAY 20TH IS ARMED FORCES DAY. SO FOR, UH, AN ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEMONSTRATION DAY FROM 11 TO 4 WITH EXHIBITS AND DEMONSTRATIONS. UM AND IT'S ALL GOING TO BE TOTALLY FREE TO THE PUBLIC. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TO LEARN ABOUT OUR ARMED FORCES CELEBRATE OUR ARMED FORCES. UM THIS PAST WEEKEND. THERE IS A WHOLE LOT TO REPORT ON WHAT I WAS DOING IN THE DISTRICT FOR ONCE. MY WIFE TURNED 30 ON SUNDAY, AND SO WE WENT TO THE BEACH AND HAD A GOOD TIME I ASKED HER IF SHE HAD ANY BUCKET LIST ITEMS WHILE STILL 29. I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE'D SAY LASER TAG OR SOMETHING. BUT NO. WE JUST HUNG OUT AND WALKED AND FOR LIKE THE FIRST TIME IN MONTHS TALK ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE WORK WE'RE DOING HERE, SO IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND SPEND TIME TOGETHER AND BE A COUPLE AND CO WORKERS FOR TWO DAYS. BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE ALL THAT. AND I HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT MISSILES. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA RESERVE MY COMMENTS FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MISS CELLS, MR RILEY. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, MR. PRESIDENT FIRST OFF APPRECIATE THE GOVERNOR COMING UP IN THE YEAR, AND WE GOT THE TOUR, THE HARFORD COUNTY DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY SERVICE CENTER. ALSO WE HAD OPEN HOUSE THAT KAREN'S AND ASSOCIATES OVER IN BELCAMP. AND THEN TODAY I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TOURING OF WARRI WILLIAMS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN I THANK TO THE PRINCIPAL ROSE MARIE AND ALL THE TEACHERS THAT CAME OUT IN DROVES TO REALLY SHOW ME WHAT'S GOING ON. IN OUR LEAST OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE AND VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. MR RILEY.

MR DANIEL DENNETT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I LIKE TO CONGRATULATE HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE NATIONAL CHAMPS LACROSSE UNDEFEATED SEASON. THEIR COACH, AARON VARIETY. UM THE FIRST TIME THAT THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WAS PLAYED AT HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND THEY BEAT THE TWO TIME STATE THAT TWO TIME NATIONAL CHAMPS NASSAU WHO HAD WON 24 CHAMPIONSHIPS, SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WHEN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS IN LACROSSE AND ACTUALLY MR BLOOM QUEST WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE HERE WAS THE MEMBER OF JOHNS HOPKINS WHEN THEY WON TWO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS, SO I THINK HE 33 EXCUSE ME. I'M WRONG. I STAND CORRECTED ON THAT. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE INTERNATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AND THEN MYSELF AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI IN COUNCILMAN PENMAN WERE AT THE RED PUMP ELEMENTARY THERE PATRIOT PROGRAM. I THINK THEY HAD OVER 600 KIDS AND JUST WHAT AN AMAZING A MAN OF ENERGY THE KIDS DID. IT DID A GREAT JOB. UM IT WAS GOOD TO BE BANK FIRST TIME BEING BACK AT THE PATRIOT PROGRAM AND PROBABLY THREE YEARS. SO UH, VERY GLAD TO ATTEND THAT. AND I HAD I HAD A GREAT TIME AND THEN LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, IF YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED BUT THE PRICE OF EGGS. HAVE DONE

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THAT'S ALL THAT HAPPENS, PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. MR PENMAN. MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE DANTE. THANKS IF ANYBODY DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT NAME, HE GRADUATED FROM EDGEWOOD HIGH FOR FIVE YEARS AGO AS A AS OUTSTANDING FOOTBALL PLAYER AND WENT TO COLLEGE AND BECAME EVEN BETTER. AND LO AND BEHOLD. IN THIS LAST DRAFT, HE WAS DRAFTED BY THE NEW YORK GIANTS. FOOTBALL TEAM. FIRST ROUND DRAFT CHOICE FIRST TIME IN HARFORD COUNTY HISTORY ANY BALLPLAYER HAVE BEEN DRAFTED FIRST ROUND DRAFT CHOICE IN ANY NFL. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE RAVENS WERE WHEN IF YOU GOT DRAFTED, THEY WERE TOO BUSY DRAFTING THE GUY THAT WAS 59 YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO CATCH PACES AGAINST DEFENDERS THAT ARE 61? AND THAT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE THAT WHAT A WASTED DRIFT CHOICE THAT WAS UM , ALSO WENT TO, UH, 10 WITH PAT VINCENT. WE BOTH ATTENDED THE MARYLAND GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB RECENTLY, ROUTE 40 BUSINESS ASSOCIATION HAD HAD EVENT THERE AND DR TERESA FIELDER FROM PRESIDENT OF NORFOLK REALLY COLLEGE WAS THERE ALWAYS LIKE TO LISTEN TO HER ANYWAY? SHE'S A VERY GOOD SPEAKER. UM A SOUTH AMERICAN POINT PARK AND JOPPATOWNE LAST WEEK TO THANK THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES FROM PARKS AND REC, UM, WORKDAY BECAUSE DIRECTOR PAUL MAGGOTS WAS THERE ALSO. TERRY HANLEY, UM, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, AND THEY WERE IN WORK CLOTHES AS WELL AS ALL THEIR PEOPLE, AND THEY CLEANED UP THE ENTIRE MARINER POINT PARK. STEM STEARNS DID A GREAT JOB AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT.

AND ALL I ALSO TOLD HIM WAS LOOK, I CAN BRING A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS OVER TO HELP YOU OUT.

AND HE SAID NO, NO, NO, NO. WE WANT NO VOLUNTEERS FROM THE AREA . WE WANT TO HANDLE OURSELVES, SO THEY DIDN'T HE DID A GREAT JOB. UM ALSO MADE 11 THAT I ATTENDED 16TH ANNUAL SENIOR CAPSTONE EXPO AND JOPPATOWNE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THEY GRADUATED . THE HOMELAND SECURITY EMERGING FAIRNESS PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM OF 25 GRADUATES WHEN WE GO TO THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WE SEE ALL THE YOUTH THAT ARE GRADUATING AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE, AND HOW IMPRESSIVE THEY ARE REALLY GIVES REALLY MAKES YOU HAVE A GOOD FEELING. ALSO THE GRADUATES, UH , SAM'S SISTER WAS ONE OF THE GRADUATE STACY HARRIS. SHE ALSO GRADUATED FROM THERE WHAT WILL BE PRESENTING THEM WITH THE COUNCILMAN CITATION AT AN EVENT NEXT WEEK FOR EACH ONE OF THE GRADUATES. UM. ALSO ALONE, ALONG WITH TONY AND PAT AND JIM. WE ALL ATTENDED AT THE TOUR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND WHERE GOVERNMENT WESTMORE WAS A GUEST OF OURS. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HIM FOR A WHILE. AND I SAID, LOOK, WE'VE GOT TO FIX THE ROADS ON ROUTE 40. OH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HELP ANY AH, I GUESS LAST WEEK NOBODY MENTIONED IT. BUT FROM MAY 8TH TO 12TH WAS TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK. SO WHEN I THANK ALL THE TEACHERS IN THEIR COUNTY, THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AND THEY FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR HOPE OUR COUNTY DEPENDS ON THEM. AH! SATURDAY WAS MY MOTHER IN LAW'S BIRTHDAY. SHE WAS 97 YEARS OLD. UH SATURDAY, AND SHE HAD A GREAT MOTHER'S DAY.

UNFORTUNATELY MONDAY SHE HAD A STROKE, AND, UH, SHE'S IN THE HOSPITAL. AND PROBABLY IF IT WASN'T GOING, OKAY. I WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WERE IN HOSPITAL ALMOST ALL NIGHT

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