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[a. Resolution 027-23 (Glenwood Avenue Petition Annual Assessment)]

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EVENING CHAIR CALLS ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTIONS HERE. 27-23 GLENWOOD AVENUE PETITION ANNUAL ASSESSMENT, MR STAINLESS, MR BURKE. MR PATIN, YOU THIS EVENING. GOOD. THANK YOU.

WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE READY GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTE IN COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DAVE BURKE. I AM THE CHIEF OF PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATION AND DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND A WELCOME TO THE RESIDENTS OF GLENWOOD AND THANK THEM FOR ATTENDING PRESENT A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE GLENWOOD DONNA GOAL AREA SUPER PETITION.

NOW ALSO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE HARPER COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT EVALUATION OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND DIVISION AREA. MR JOHN WRESTLIN, THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. HARVEY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY RELATED QUESTIONS. PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE COMPETITION, HARFORD COUNTY FOR WATER AND SEWER SERVICE PETITIONS ARE COVERED BY COUNTY CODE TO 56-6 AND WATER AND SEWER RULES AND REGULATIONS . PART 24 PETITIONS ALLOW THE COUNTY TO APPROVE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT. PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER AS A CAPITAL PROJECT. FINAL COSTS ARE EQUALLY SHARED BY ALL PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BENEFITED BY THE PETITION PROJECT. THE PROJECT IS PAID FOR BY ANNUAL BENEFIT ASSESSMENTS.

GLENWOOD DON GALERIAS PETITION INCLUDES PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER 27-23 TO ESTABLISH THE PETITION ANNUAL ASSESSMENT AND PROPOSED RESOLUTION NUMBER 28-23. TO MOVE THE PETITION PROPERTIES INTO THE S THREE PLAN SEWER SERVICE CATEGORY IN THE WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN. OUR OFFICE RECEIVED A SEWER PETITION REQUEST FROM 10 OF THE 15 PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING THE PETITIONER. WE MAILED THE BALLOT PACKAGE ON AUGUST 16TH 2022, WHICH INCLUDE THE PROJECT COSTS AND ACCEPTANCE SYSTEM EVALUATION REPORT PERFORMED BY THE HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE HAD A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON SEPTEMBER 14TH 2022 AT THE MCFAUL CENTER IN BEL AIR. VALID RESULTED IN 93% 14 OUT OF 15 OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS VOTED YES, IN FAVOR OF THE PETITION. THEN RESOLUTION NUMBERS 27 23 28 23 WERE INTRODUCED TO COUNTY COUNCIL ON MAY 2ND 2023. CONCURRENT WITH COUNCIL APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 27-23 FOR THE PETITION. A MASTER PLAN UPDATE IS REQUIRED UNDER RESOLUTION NUMBER 28-23, WHICH IS A ROUTINE ACTIONS. APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION MOVES THE PETITION PROPERTIES FROM SEWER SERVICE CATEGORY S FIVE INTO SERVICE CATEGORY ASKED THREE OR PLANNED SEWER SERVICE AND 0 TO 5 YEARS, THIS UPDATE IS REQUIRED TO PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN AND APPROVAL OF THE PETITION CONTRACT DRAWINGS. THIS MAP SHOWS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED TO OUR PROJECT. IT IS LOCATED IN THE 1500 BLOCK OF DONEGAL ROAD AND THE 102 100 BLOCKS OF DONE KANAN ROAD. IT INCLUDES 1200 FT OF EIGHT INCH GRAVITY SEWER EXTENSION. WITH 15 SEWER HOUSE CONNECTIONS BUILT TO THE PROPERTY LINE. ALL CONSTRUCTION IS WITHIN THE PUBLIC ROAD RIGHT AWAY.

THEREFORE, NO PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS ARE REQUIRED. INITIAL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT IS FROM THE COUNTY WATER AND SEWER FUND. THE COUNTY WILL BE REIMBURSED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS. WE EXPECT $67,500 GRANT FUNDING FROM THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SEPTIC SYSTEM DISCONNECTION PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BE USED TO OFFSET DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WILL BE MANAGED SIMILAR TO A COUNTY CAPITAL PROJECT. THIS SLIDE IS A COPY OF THE COST SUMMARY SHEET PROVIDED TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER IN THE BALLOT PACKAGE. THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM THIS SLIDE IS THAT WE HAVE $67,500 IN GRANTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPLIED TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THE BALANCE OF THE OF THE FUNDS WILL BE BY THE COUNTY WATER AND SEWER FUND FOR 30 YEARS AT AN INTEREST RATE OF 2. AS A RESULT , THE ANNUAL COST TO EACH PROPERTY OWNER IS $2073 PER YEAR. ONCE THE NEW PUBLIC SEWERS , OPERATIONAL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR THE SEWER HOOKUP CHARGES WHICH ARE $11,839. THEY'RE ALSO

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RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR THEIR SEPTIC SYSTEM ABANDONMENT. AS WELL AS THEIR PRIVATE CONNECTION TO PUBLIC SEWER. THERE IS A $25,000 GRANT AVAILABLE FOR EACH PROPERTY OWNER FROM THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT. THE ENVIRONMENT A RESTORATION FUND TO PAY THESE UPFRONT COSTS TO CONNECT THE PUBLIC SEWER AND ABANDON THEIR SEPTIC SYSTEMS. EACH PROPERTY OWNER MUST CONTACT THE HARPER COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT AND MEET ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.

PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CONNECTING TO THE PUBLIC SEWER WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE SEWER OPERATIONAL. EACH PROPERTY AND IT WAS PROVIDED A COPY OF THE HARPER COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT SEPTIC SYSTEM EVALUATION REPORT. FOR THE PETITION AREA AS PART OF THE BALLOT PACKAGE. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT REPORTED THAT SEPTIC SYSTEMS TIP TYPICALLY LAST 25 TO 30 YEARS. 13 OUT OF THE 15 SEPTIC SYSTEMS OF THE IN GLENWOOD ARE ORIGINAL. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 50 YEARS OLD. SEVEN OF THE LOTS ARE IMPACTED BY A STREAM AND LOCATED IN DO NOT TEST OR WHAT SEASON SOILS. AND ALL OF THE LOTS ARE LESS THAN ONE ACRE, WHICH LIMITS OPTIONS FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS. HARPER COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT CONCLUDED THAT THE AVAILABLE LAND AREAS LIMITED TO INSTALL REPLACEMENT SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND THE MAJORITY OF THE EXISTING SYSTEMS HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR TYPICAL USEFUL LIFE. THEREFORE PUBLIC SEWER IS THE BEST OPTION. IN SUMMARY. THERE'S VERY STRONG 93% SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THIS PETITION PROJECT. THE AVAILABLE GRAND FUNDING REDUCES THE PROJECT COST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HARFORD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS IN FULL SUPPORT. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION SUBJECT TO YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR BURKE. MR BETTIN ANYTHING NO, THANK YOU. JUST THANKS FOR THE TIME.

ALRIGHT, COUNSEL YOUR TIME FOR QUESTIONS ANYONE? MR GENTRY NOW , THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. SO HOW COME THIS HAS TAKEN SO LONG TO IMPLEMENT THE SHUAR PROGRAMS SINCE THESE HOMES WERE BUILT BACK IN THE SIXTIES THAT DOES THIS EVER COME UP BEFORE IN THE CITIZENS DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT. NO.

THIS HAS EVER COME UP BEFORE THIS SEWER IS EXTENDED UP TO JUST THE INTERSECTION OF DONEGAL AND DONE CANNON. SO WE'RE JUST SYSTEMS NEED TO PETITION THE COUNTY FOR SERVICE. SO WHY WAS THE REST OF GLENWOOD DONE? THIS WASN'T I'M FAMILIAR WITH GLENWOOD. I GREW UP IN COLONIAL LAKERS. I KNOW THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT SO JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY THAT WAS NEVER DONE IN THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, OR WERE THEY THE FIRST HOMES OR LAST HOMES OR THESE ARE TOWARDS UH, YOU KNOW, GLENWOOD ROAD, SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE WAY THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS DEVELOPED.

THIS WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE YOU KNOW, EARLIER PORTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SEWER JUST WASN'T WASN'T PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER. THE DEVELOPER CHOSE TO INSTALL SENTENCES. OKAY THANKS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR BENNETT? DO YOU ALL HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY POCKETS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE OR LEFT? IN A SIMILAR SITUATION OF HAVING YOU KNOW, EITHER EXPIRED OR CLOSE TO EXPIRING SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND HAVING JOINED IN ON PUBLIC SEWER YET, OR I WOULDN'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THAT. BUT YOU WOULD.

YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY BE THE AGAIN THE ORDER COMMUNITIES THAT WEREN'T WEREN'T BUILT.

ORIGINALLY WE COULD CERTAINLY RESEARCH THAT PROVIDES YOU THAT INFORMATION, BUT UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT. YEAH, I JUST WONDER HOW MANY LITTLE BOTCHES AND BLOCKS OF COMMUNITIES AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF THE PROCESS OR THAT IT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM TO SEEK OUT TO BE PART OF OUR SEWER SYSTEM PUBLICLY RATHER THAN CONTINUE TO HAVE SEPTIC, SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS. DO WE HAVE RECORD OF HOW OLD SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE IN DIFFERENT AREAS? THE HARPER COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES YES. UM, I WAS MAYBE THINKING ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, USING THAT INFORMATION TO DO OUTREACH TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNITIES TO CONSIDER MOVING FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER. MR RILEY.

THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. I LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK YOU FOR THE 2.5 HOURS YOU SPENT WITH ME IN A WAR GOING OVER THERE SO I COULD UNDERSTAND AND IN DEPTH, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE HIS TIME. YOU'RE WELCOME. HMM. UM, HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR WRESTLIN. IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING FORWARD, PLEASE. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT IN THAT BAY RESTORATION FUND CURRENTLY WELL, SO IT'S RENEWED EVERY FISCAL YEAR, SO I SUBMITTED I SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO M D. E. ABOUT A WEEK AGO ASKING FOR $1.4 MILLION FOR FY 24. UM HOW MUCH

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THEY AWARD ME IS, UH, YOU KNOW I'M AT THE MERCY OF THE BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHER PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUT OF YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, UM, INFLUENCE, BUT WITH THESE PROJECTS. WE DO GENERATE A WAITING LIST LIKE I HAVE A WAITING LIST OF APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW FOR FY 24 MONEY. THE THING WITH THE SURER PETITIONS IS THERE'S A BIT OF A STAGING THAT GOES ON, YOU KNOW THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION BY THE COUNCIL AND THEN THE PLAN AND DESIGN SO I THINK THERE'S FLEXIBILITY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE GRANT AND THE COUNTY TO, UM, KIND OF WORK ON FACING THESE PROJECTS IN SO THAT, YOU KNOW, $25,000 FOR 15 PROPERTIES IS SUBSTANTIAL, YOU KNOW, SO I PLAN ON THESE PETITIONS IN IN THE GRANTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM HOW THEY CONNECT IS USUALLY MORE OF A OF A STAGGERED APPROACH, YOU KNOW, ONE YEAR CONNECTION PERIOD VERSUS 15 PROPERTIES ALL AT ONCE, SO IF I CAN YOU KNOW? WELL IT'S NOT REALLY MY CONTROL. IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER. BUT YOU KNOW IF THESE THINGS ARE CONNECTING IN A IN A PHASED APPROACH, IT'S LESS . UM STRAIN ON ON THE GRANT THAT I GET WHATEVER AMOUNT THAT IS, HOW ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ABANDONMENT FOR THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS? HOW MUCH TIME DOES THE HOMEOWNER HAVE THE TURN THAT AROUND. SO USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THE HOMEOWNER APPLIES FOR THE PLUMBING PERMIT TO CONNECT TO THE SEWER. MAIN CONTRACTOR. THAT IS, UM, DOING THAT CONNECTION. AS SOON AS THAT CONNECTIONS MADE, THE SEPTIC TANK IS PUMPING ABANDONED WHILE THEY'RE ON SITE. SO IT'S ALMOST THE SIMULTANEOUS AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, UM WHEN I DO FIND SOMETHING GRANT WISE, THEY NEED TO SUBMIT THE PROOF OF ABANDONMENT, THE PUMP OUT RECEIPT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, DISPERSE THE FUNDS TO THE CONTRACTOR. THANK YOU. UM MR CHANDRA NANA. THANKS JOHN. UM IS IT THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDS FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL OR IS THERE? IS THERE A DIFFERENT IS THERE A DIFFERENT PROCESS OR DIFFERENT FUNDS FOR THE AMOUNT THAT YOU REQUEST? OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, SO WITH RESPECT TO THE GRANT. THE GRANT FUNDING HAS, UM YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE A HOMEOWNER AND IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. THE INCOME THRESHOLD IS $300,000 OR MORE, AND WE USE , YOU KNOW TO VET THAT WE LOOK AT YOUR FEDERAL 10 40 AT THE TIME YOU'RE LOOKING TO CONNECT, AND WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL INCOME LINE ON WHATEVER THAT IS ON THE FEDERAL 10 40 FORM, SO IF YOU ARE A PERSON AND THIS HAPPENS RARELY, BUT IF YOU'RE A PERSON ATTICS EXCEEDS THE $300,000 INCOME LIMITATION. THE AMOUNT YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE OF THE 25,000 WOULD BE FAIR. 50% 12,500 . IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN THAT, THEN YOU'D BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FULL 25 NOW WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THE TAP CHARGES. THE BIDS AND THOSE THINGS. YOU KNOW YOU YOU COULD POTENTIALLY COME IN UNDER THE $25,000 THRESHOLD, WHICH THEN? YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE ONLY COVER WHAT WHAT THE COST IS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KNOW, WITH THE PRICES, DAVE INDICATED, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, TAP CHARGES WHEN YOU SAY $12,000 12,000. SO IF IT TAP CHARGES $12,000 AND THE SINGLE HOUSE CONNECTION IS, YOU KNOW $4000 BY THE LOW, BIG CONTRACTOR, YOU KNOW THE GRAND WOULD BE COVERING $16,000 BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. UM BECAUSE THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THE SEWER MAIN IS BEING COVERED BY THE PETITION PETITION FUND. CORRECT? YEAH. SO MY GRANT WOULD BE LOOKING TO COVER THE SEPTIC ABANDONMENT.

THE SINGLE HOUSE CONNECTION TO THE SEWER MAIN AND THEN THE TAP CHARGE. WHAT ABOUT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COMMERCIAL? YEAH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT PART. SO, UM SO A SMALL MARYLAND SMALL BUSINESS IS ELIGIBLE FOR 75% FUNDING, A NONPROFIT. WHO I WAS THAT ONE'S TRICKY. I THINK A NONPROFIT IS ELIGIBLE FOR 100% OF THE ALLOWANCE. IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, BONIFIED NONPROFIT. A BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE OVER THE SMALL BUSINESS THRESHOLD, AND THAT'S DEFINED IN REGULATION. UM WOULD BE 50% MOST OF THE COMMERCIAL ONES I'VE FUNDED HAVE BEEN AT THE 75% LEVEL. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE THRESHOLD FOR THEM TO BE UNDER THAT? 75% IS THERE A INCOME LEVEL? SO THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION. TO BUT YOU ALWAYS ASK THESE TRICKY QUESTIONS. THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION TO A BRANCH OF THE STATE WHERE THE STATE OF EVALUATES THERE. THE NATURE OF

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THEIR BUSINESS AND THE EMPLOYER . I CAN SEND YOU SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. ACTUALLY THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND IT EXPLAINS THE PROCESS AND HOW THEY HOW THEY APPLY AND HOW THEY'RE REVIEWED AND WHAT WHAT CONSTITUTES AND DEFINES IN MARYLAND. SMALL BUSINESS. MOST OF THE STUFF THAT I DEAL WITH IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. I'VE DONE ONE OR TWO. COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES RECENTLY THAT HAVE CONNECTED TO PUBLIC SEWER. AND WHEN YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT BIDS , DOES ONE CONTRACTOR DO ALL THE HOOKUPS FOR THIS? SO IF YOU'VE GOT 14 OUT OF THE 15 IS ONE CONTRACTOR GOING TO DO ALL OF THE HOOKUPS, OR DOES SOMEBODY HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS? THAT WASN'T CLEAR? THE PRIVATE CONNECTIONS THAT'S UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. THEY CAN HIRE ANY ANY PLUMBER THEY'D LIKE, UM, THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THEM. OKAY? SO TO KIND OF ELABORATE ON THAT THE TAP CHARGES YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A FIXED CHARGE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER AND SEWER SO THEY WOULD SEND ME AN INVOICE AND I WOULD JUST PAY THAT TO THEM. UM AND THEN THE PRIVATE HOUSE CONNECTION TO BE GRANT ELIGIBLE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THREE CONTRACTORS BID THAT WORK TO TIE THEIR HOUSE INTO THE PUBLIC SERVICE AND INCLUDE THE ABANDONMENT OF THE SEPTIC. AND THEN THE GRANT WOULD AWARD THE FUNDING TO THE LOWEST BID OF THE THREE. OKAY? THAT'S GOOD. ANYONE ELSE? JUST QUICK. THE. ESTIMATE BALLPARK AMOUNT THAT HOMEOWNER WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO GET THE HOOK UP. LIKE THE TOTAL AMOUNT AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE HOOK UP TO THE SYSTEM. OUR HOOK UP CHARGES PURSUER $11,839 AS WE ESTIMATED FOR THIS PETITION, AND WHAT WE DID WITH THAT WE PROJECTED THAT AHEAD. UM THAT IS TO YOU. IT'S ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE ASSUME THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD CONNECT NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CONNECTION FROM THE FROM THE THING INTO THE HOUSE. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THE NUMBER YOU GIVE ME FROM FROM THE PUBLIC MAIN TO THE HOUSE DEPENDS ON THE LENGTH OF THE SERVICE. UM, I KNOW, BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW YOU COULD PROBABLY BALLPARK IT AND YOU KNOW THOSE 15 HOUSES YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SAME AND FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE. WHAT WOULD THAT NUMBER I HOLD YOU ANYTHING? I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A BALLPARK DIFFER TO JOHN BECAUSE JOHN JOHN SEES THE INVOICES FROM THE CONTRACTORS ARE OFFICE IS NOT ALL RIGHT, JOHN BOY, LET ME WHAT YOU GOT. SO UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIGHLY VARIABLE, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN, UM. LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UH, THEODORA HAD A SEWER CONNECTION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE THE SEWER WAS IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AND IT WAS A GRAVITY TIE IN FROM THE HOUSE TO THE SEWER MAIN IN THE STREET. AND EVERYTHING WAS KIND OF SHORT. AND THAT. CAME IN, PROBABLY LIKE $5000 FOR THE YOU KNOW, SINGLE HOUSE CONNECTION, BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER ONES WHERE THAT'S PRETTY REASONABLE. YEAH AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE GRANT REQUIRES THREE BIDS BECAUSE CONTRACTOR COSTS VERY DRAMATICALLY. UM YOU KNOW? YEAH. USUALLY AND I HATE THROWING NUMBERS ON SOMETHING THAT IS VARIABLE IS THIS BUT USUALLY THE TIE IN FROM THE HOUSE TO THE SEWER MAIN. FOR THE MOST PART OF THE PROJECTS THAT I'VE DONE THAT YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN FUNDED THROUGH THE GRAND WHERE I'VE SEEN THREE BIDS. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN LESS THAN $10,000 AS THE LOW BID YOU KNOW TO GET THAT HOUSE TO THE PUBLIC SEWER MAIN AND ABANDON THE SEPTIC SYSTEM. SOME HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF FIVE. SOME HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO THE 10. SO IF I HAVE TO THROW A NUMBER, I WOULD THROW THAT OUT AS A ROUGH BALLPARK INCLUDE THE WATER. NO WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL WATER, PUBLIC WATER. NO THIS IS THIS IS ALL REALLY TO SEPTIC. SO IT'S ALL UM, SHORELINE. I MEAN, RIGHT SEWER. IF YOU COURSE YOU HAD A COUPLE THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY DID NOT WANT TO HOOK UP. GO AHEAD, DAVE. QUESTION FOR ME. SO WE HAD ONE PROPERTY ON THAT DID NOT VOTE. UM ESSENTIALLY, THEY DID NOT SUBMIT THE BALLOT. SO OUR POLICY AND THE RULES AND REGS REQUIRE THAT TO BE COUNTED AS A NO. SO IF THEY DO NOT SO WHAT? SO IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE RESOLUTION FOR THE PETITION THE PROPERTY AND IT WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT BECAUSE THEIR PROPERTY BENEFITS BY THE PROJECT GOTTA. HE'S GOTTA HOOK UP. THEY DON'T HAVE TO HOOK UP, BUT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY THE ASSESSMENT. I THINK IF THEY PAY THE SEVEN, THEY SAY, OKAY, I'LL GO. I SAID THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO. THEY'RE NOT

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OBLIGATED TO HOOK UP, BUT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE ASSESSMENT BECAUSE THE PROPERTY BENEFITS ACCORDING TO COUNTY CODE AND RULES AND REGULATIONS. I THINK I KNOW WHAT HE'S GONNA DO. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. ANYONE ELSE? MYSTICS INTO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP. WE DO, MR PRESIDENT.

WE HAVE TO THIS EVENING, JAMES NOT FOLLOWED BY SEAN CARBON. AWAY. YES, SIR. BUT YOU KNOW NINE DONALD RAILROAD THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS AS MR GERE, DANA POINTED OUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER 50 YEARS OLD, IT IS BORDERED TO THE NORTH BY COLONIAL MAKERS AND TO THE SOUTH BY PATTERSON MILL. IT WAS NEVER HOOKED UP THE WATER AND SEWER. THERE ARE CERTAIN STREETS THAT HAVE WATER AND SEWER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SPECIFICALLY THE BACK OF GREENWAY, UH, PLACE AND SOME DOWN THE END OF DONE CANNON AND A NEWER SECTION THAT CONNECTS WITH PARSONS RIDGE, PARSONS RIDGE. YES THOSE ARE HOOKED UP IN THE GRAVITY GOES DOWN IN THE LINE RUNS BREAK INTO THE FINAL RUN INTERCEPTOR THERE. THAT LOW POINT DONE, CANNON AT THE END OF DONE, CANDIDATE INTERSECTIONAL. UM SO YES, COLONIAL ACRES DOES HAVE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WATER AND SEWER MAP, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, BLANK AREAS THAT MR BENNETT WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT IT WAS JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HASN'T HECK. EXCUSE ME HOOKED UP TO IT YET. UM, AND NOW IT'S PROBABLY THE TIME I DO RECALL MY NEIGHBOR, MR TAPLEY ON ATTEMPTING TO DO THIS ONE OTHER TIME, BUT I THINK THE STREET VOTE WAS 8 TO 7. SO UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE VOTE NOW IS, UM THANK YOU, 3% I'M SURE THERE WAS ONE ABSTENTION OR ONE NEW BOOK.

SO, UM ALL THE ALL THE OWNERS HAVE SUPPORTED AND WOULD WOULD MOVE IF YOU ASK. THANK YOU, SIR.

THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS. MR PRESIDENT WITH NO OTHER SPEAKERS . THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION 0 27-23 HEARINGS CLOSED AND WE'LL TAKE IT UP AT ANOTHER MEETING. THANK

[b. Resolution 028-23 (Amendment-Master Water and Sewer Plan Spring Update 2023)]

[c. Resolution 029-23 (Amendment-Freys Road-Public Sewer Project-Annual Assessment)]

[d. Resolution 030-23 (Amendment-Magnolia Road-Public Sewer Project -Annual Assessment)]

[e. Resolution 031-23 (Amendment- Woodridge Manor-Public Sewer Project-Annual Assessment)]

YOU. WE'LL MOVE INTO RESOLUTION 0 28 23. AMENDMENT MASTER WATER AND SEWER PLANT SPRING UPDATE 2023. JUST GET. DISCUSSED RATE INTO. OKAY WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE READY, SO IT MAY BE EASIER SO OBVIOUSLY UP TO YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, BUT, UM, ALL THREE OF THESE ARE ALL THREE OF THESE RESOLUTIONS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AMENDMENT. IT MIGHT BE BEST TO, UM, DISCUSS THEM.

COLLECTIVELY. ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? 29 30 23, 29 23, 30 23 AND 31 23, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. ROBBIE SANDALS COUNTY TREASURER, BRINGING FORTH SOME AMENDMENTS TO SOME EXISTING SORE PETITIONS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE PROCEEDING.

COUNCIL. UM THREE AREAS. AT UM RESOLUTION. 29 23 FOR FRIES. ROAD SORT PETITION RESOLUTION 30 23 FOR MAGNOLIA ROADS OR PETITION AND RESOLUTION 31 23 FOR WOODRIDGE MANNERS OR PETITION THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THESE AMENDMENTS IS THAT IT REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE PETITION WOULD BE FINANCED BY A STATE LOW LOW INTEREST LOAN AND INSTEAD, AS WITH THE PREVIOUS ASSESSMENT, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AH, THE COUNTY WATER AND SORE FUND WILL FINANCE FINANCES PROJECT WILL BE PAID FOR BY BY THOSE ASSESSMENTS, BUT INSTEAD OF GOING OUT FOR A LOAN, WE WILL MORE OR LESS SELF FINANCE THAT PROJECT AND WITH THAT THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE IN THOSE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE PRECEDING RESOLUTIONS. AND SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? A COUPLE OF REASONS, ONE OF THOSE COST SAVINGS TO THE PETITION COMMUNITIES FOR THE FINAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT, FINAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH WHEN YOU TAKE MONEY FROM STATE PROGRAMS OFTEN COMES WITH A LOT OF STRINGS ATTACHED, SUCH AS PREVAILING WAGES. OTHER UM OTHER LABOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, WHICH MR BOUTIN CAN DISCUSS. SO THIS THIS DECISION HERE, UM BY NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THAT, UM WITH THOSE WITH THOSE LOW INTEREST LOANS AND SAID SHOES INTO SELF FINANCE, WE WON'T BE SUBJECT TO THOSE ALSO BE ABLE TO BRING ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS IN EARLIER SERVICE STATES FOR THE NEW STORE MEANS OF COURSE, THAT MEANS THAT THOSE RESIDENTS WILL BENEFIT BY BEING ABLE TO HOOK UP SOONER, BUT ALSO MEANS THAT THE SYSTEM WILL BENEFIT BY BEING ABLE TO COLLECT. ALL THE APPROPRIATE HOOK UP CHARGES AND SYSTEM BENEFIT CHARGES AND LIKE AND THEN START BEING ABLE TO RECEIVE QUARTERLY BUILDING FROM THEM AS WELL. AND THEN ANOTHER FINAL REASON IS THAT JUST PROVIDES AN INCREASED OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL CONTRACTORS TO BID AGAIN WITH A LOT OF TIMES WITH THOSE PREVAILING WAGE REQUIREMENTS. UM IT DOES LIMIT THE ABILITY OF SMALLER LOCAL FIRMS TO CONTRACT SO AGAIN. UM NO, NO CHANGE IN, UM IN WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS WILL PAY. IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF HOW WE ARE GOING TO

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FINANCE. SO INSTEAD OF FINANCING IT FROM, UM FROM THE STATE, WE WILL FINANCE IT INTERNALLY AND THE SYSTEM WILL STILL BENEFIT BY RECEIVING THOSE INTEREST PAYMENTS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PAY THOSE INTEREST PAYMENTS BACK TO THE STATE. MR PATIN. THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION WITH JUSTIFICATIONS. OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. HOW DO YOU BREAK ME UP, UH, COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? I USED TO KISS THEORY. DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTIONS 29 23 THROUGH 31 23 . THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED AND WE'LL TAKE IT UP A LITTLE LATER DATE. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO RESOLUTION 28 23 BECAUSE I'M STILL SHOWING IT ON MY AGENDA. SAYS AMENDMENTS TO THE MASTER OF WATER AND SEWER PLANE THEY DISCUSSED AND ALL THE YOU DIDN'T CALL. CALL THAT FOR PRESENTATION DAY DISCUSSED DURING THE PRESENTATION, OK? THAT IF YOU APPROVE THE SIR PETITION THAT REQUIRES THE MISRULE TO BE UPDATED ORDER FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE DESIGNED, OKAY? UM, I GOT THAT RIGHT? BILL 23-016 CHARTER AMENDMENT TERM LIMITS, MR PENMAN. THANK YOU, MR

[f. Bill 23-016 (Charter Amendment - Term Limits)]

PRESIDENT. THAT HERE IS ALSO CLOSED. RIGHT, SIR? YES, SIR. MR PENN. I WANT TO THANK THOSE THAT ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE MANY EMAILS. WE HAVE RECEIVED SUPPORT IN TERM LIMITS. THIS PROPOSED TERM LIMIT LEGISLATION IS VERY SIMPLE. A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SERVE THREE TERMS AS A DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE AFTER BEFORE THEY'RE TURNED OUT OF THE DISTRICT. THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE THREE TERMS AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT IN A PERFECT WORLD, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE TWO TERMS. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF COMPROMISE, THIS BILL IS FOR THREE TERMS. I FIRMLY BELIEVE LEGISLATORS SHOULD BE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE AND NOT SO ENTRENCHED AND SELF PRESERVATION. POLITICAL OR POLITICAL RHETORIC THAT THEY LOSE SIGHT OF THE REAL ISSUES OF THEIR COMMUNITIES AND COUNTY PUBLIC OFFICERS SHOULD NOT BE A CAREER MOTIVATED BY COMPENSATION OR BENEFITS. THE PURPOSE OF TERM LIMITS IS TO REDUCE THE POWER OF INCUMBENCY AND PROVIDE NEW FRESH IDEAS FROM THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST MINDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS WHY THE PRESIDENT AND I STATES, THE GOVERNOR OF MARYLAND, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, ALL HAVE TERM LIMITS. THE SUPPORT FOR TERM LIMITS IS ON DENIABLE AND SUPPORTED WITH BIPARTISAN SHIP ACROSS OUR NATION. THOSE WHO A PEARL OPPOSED TERM LIMITS WILL SAY WHAT IF THERE ISN'T ANYONE THAT'S QUALIFIED TO RUN AS COUNCIL MEMBER? ONCE I'M TURNED DOWN, I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE TO THINK THAT OUR COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE SMART, ENTHUSIASTIC, CIVIC MINDED COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT COULD DO PERHAPS A MUCH BROADER BETTER JOB THAN WE CAN OPPOSITION WILL ALSO SAY THAT CONSTITUENTS CAN IMPLEMENT TERM LIMITS BY VOTING LEGISLATORS OUT BUT ALSO FIND THAT DISTRESSFUL BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT WINNING AGAINST AN INCUMBENT ARMED WITH NAME RECOGNITION AND LARGE CAMPAIGN ACCOUNTS IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. THOSE AGAINST TERMINATES WERE AWFUL. ALSO COMPARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. I FOUND MANY OTHER SIMILAR JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE TERM LIMITS ON COUNTY LEGISLATORS WOULD ALSO OFFER WE SHOULD NOT LEGISLATE BASED ON OTHER COUNTIES, HOWEVER, ONLY WHAT'S INVEST FOR HARFORD COUNTY. THOSE ARGUMENTS AGAINST TERMINATES WILL ALSO IMPLY THAT WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IN HARFORD COUNTY, WITH LONG TENDER LEGISLATORS. I WOULD SAY THAT AS A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE, FURTHERMORE, WE AS LEGISLATORS WILL LEGISLATE FOR THE FUTURE, NOT THE PAST. ONE IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THIS LEGISLATION IS THIS DECISION WOULD BE NOT BE ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE LEGISLATORS HAVE A HARD TIME LEGISLATING THEMSELVES. THIS BILL WOULD SIMPLY ALLOW THE VOTERS TO DECIDE ON THE BALLOT IF THEY WANT TERM LIMITS OR NOT. DURING THE ELECTION OF 2024, IN MY OPINION, NOT ALLOWING THE VOTERS TO HAVE INPUT ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT DECISION IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING THE VOTERS DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. WITH THAT. IT'S ALL HAVE MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR PEMON COUNCIL YOUR TURN FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MISSILES. THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PENMAN THAT THIS ISSUE OF TERM LIMITS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. BEING A LEGISLATOR SHOULDN'T BE A LIFELONG PROFESSION AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS IN ANNAPOLIS AND WASHINGTON. OUR COUNCIL SHOULD BE EVER EVOLVING. AND, UM MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE VOICED STRONG SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL, AND I PROUDLY SUPPORT TERM LIMITS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MS DICKSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP A PRISON? I'M SORRY, MISTER, BUT I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT I'VE BEEN ALL OVER ON THIS THING AND I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY COME TO A CONCLUSION YET. I HAVE DONE A LOT OF CHECKING OUT PEOPLE IN MY AREA. I KNOW EVEN AT THE JUMPER JOPPATOWNE JOPPATOWNE EDGEWOOD

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COMMUNITY COUNCIL, WHICH AARON WAS THERE. UM WHEN HE STARTED TO TALK ABOUT, HE ASKED FOR A RAISE OF HANDS OF WHO SUPPORTED TERM LIMITS. HARDLY HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE IN THE MEETING RAISED THEIR HANDS, SO WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE ON THIS. AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT MEETING OF FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS AGO. WHEN I GAVE UP ESTIMATE ON THIS SUBJECT FIRST CAME UP. I WENT OUT, AND IT DID SOME SURVEY ON MANA COUNCIL MEMBERS THEIR UPPER ON THE WALL. INCLUDING THIS COUNCIL. IT WAS 57. PEOPLE WHO HAVE HELD THESE POSITIONS. YOU KNOW, SINCE IN THE HISTORY OF HARFORD COUNTY. OF THE 57 PEOPLE THAT HELD THOSE POSITIONS. OVER 78% OF THEM. 78% OF THE PEOPLE OF HELD THIS POSITION. HAVE ONLY WORKED IF ONLY HELD HIM FOR TWO TERMS OR LESS. TWO TERMS OR LESS. SO YOU'RE ALMOST YOU ALMOST HAVE A SYSTEM ALREADY BUILT IN THE EITHER. LOSE THE POSITION AN ELECTION OR THEY DECIDE NOT TO RUN AGAIN OR DECIDE TO RUN FOR ANOTHER OFFICE. UM SO THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, BECAUSE OF , UM, OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T GO FOR THREE TERMS. SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO DO ONE TERM, MANY OF THEM UM, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IN, AND I NOTICED IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF HARFORD COUNTY. ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE SEVEN PEOPLE HAVE HELD FOUR TERMS. I'M WORKING ON MY FOURTH TOURNAMENT CAME BACK.

ONLY ONE PERSON IN HARVARD COUNTY HISTORY EVER HELD 20 YEARS. THAT'S BOB WAGNER, WHO JUST WENT OUT IN THE IN THE LAST ELECTION. SO IT'S A IT'S ALMOST BUILT IN WHEN YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, AND THEY DECIDE SO, LIKE I SAID, I'M I'M STONE OFFENSE. UM I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO SOME PEOPLE SPEAK AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT IT. I'M GETTING A LOT OF EMAILS THAT ARE AGAINST IT. AND EMAILS THAT ARE FOR IT. THAT'S USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTROVERSY PIECES OF LEGISLATION. AND YOU JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE OF THE COUNTY. NOT YOUR BEST INTEREST, BUT THE COUNTY'S BACK WHAT IS THE COUNTY'S BEST INTEREST? UM WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? THINK ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT WHO DON'T GET ELECTED ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I'M SITTING HERE THAT HAVE POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY. UM WHEN YOU HIRE THEM, DO YOU SAY, HEY, JOE, BLOW COME INTO YOUR GOING TO BE AN EMPLOYEE. BUT IN 12 YEARS YOU'RE FIRED. WELL HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE A JOB? YOU KNOW, WITH THAT WITH THAT ON THE LINE TELLING YOU THAT WELL, YOU CAN COME TO WORK HERE. BUT 12 YEARS YOU'RE GOING OR EIGHT YEARS OR WHATEVER THE TERM, MAYBE SO BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD EMPLOYEE, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM. YOU ONLY GET RID OF THEM. UM SO IF YOU GET YOU GET A BAD COUNCIL MEMBER , SOMEBODY YOU DON'T LIKE YOU VOTE THEM OUT IN FOUR YEARS, SO I'M ON THE FENCE, UH, SPOKE TO SPEAKING A LOT MORE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT. SEE WHAT THEIR FEELINGS ARE? UM BUT RIGHT NOW RIGHT NOW. THE AS FAR AS MOST OF THE PEOPLE I SPOKE TO, AND I SPOKE TO ALARM IN MY DISTRICT.

UH THEY'RE OPPOSED TO IT. THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE OPPOSING. THERE'S POINT. THERE'S A NUMBER OF FOUR, BUT I'M FINDING PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED TO IT. SO WITH THAT. I GUESS I'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO SPEAK AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MR RILEY. I ALSO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TALKING TOO MANY FOLKS IN MY DISTRICT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE CONSTANTLY DEAL WITH IN THIS COUNCIL WAS DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS THE DEVELOPERS DREAM COME TRUE WAS TALKING TO ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND MADE SO MUCH SENSE. THAT ONCE YOU GET THREE TERMS ON THE COUNCIL, YOU REALLY ARE QUALIFIED BY THE VOTERS. YOU NO LONGER NEED THAT CONSTANT RESIDUAL CAMPAIGN FUNDS THAT NEED TO COME THROUGH THAT DEVELOPERS CONSTANTLY ARE TRYING TO LOOK FOR IN IN THE SEVEN FOLKS HERE ON THE DAIS, AND SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE THROUGH. EVERYBODY ON THE DAY IS TO THINK ABOUT THAT. UM AGAIN. WE ALL KNOW IT TAKES MONEY TO BE ABLE TO CAMPAIGN AND SO IF YOU KEEP HAVING THIS REDUNDANT OF FOLKS THAT COME THROUGH THE THIRD YEAR , YOU'RE OUT THE CAMP PUT. THE DEVELOPERS KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE IS COMING IN. AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO FUND SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE IN FAVOR. SO AGAIN, IF YOU THINK DEVELOPMENTS TOUGH HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY.

NOW, I THINK IF YOU, UH, YOU PASSED THIS BILL, IT'S GONNA GET WORSE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT.

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THANK YOU, MR RILEY. MR BENNETT. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE TONIGHT. SOME OF THE WORK I'VE BEEN DOING IS REACHING OUT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO MY DISTRICT. SO THE CITY OF ABERDEEN, THE CITY OF HAVERTY, GREECE, UM, AND HEARING THE POSITIONS OF THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS SAY, TRY AND GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS IMPACTS THEM AND WORKS FOR THEM. I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN REACHING OUT TO THE OTHER COUNTY GOVERNMENTS IN THE STATE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BALTIMORE CITY WHO JUST PASSED TERM LIMITS. WHAT THE TREND IS YOU KNOW COUNTIES HAVE INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO, UH, LOOSEN TERM LIMITS, SO TO GO FROM TWO TERMS TO THREE TERMS, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS AN ARRUNDELL COUNTY THAT WE SAW MOST RECENTLY DO THAT. AND SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS UNDERSTAND YOU. WHY WHY MAKE THAT STEP BACKWARDS? YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WASN'T WORKING OR WHAT WAS WORKING. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND BEYOND THE CONCEPT, THE PRACTICALITY OF IT , AND THEN I THINK THE OTHER PIECE THAT'S IN MY MIND. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS IF THIS BILL WASN'T TO PASS THROUGH US, THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO GO OUT AND GET 10,000 SIGNATURES AND SO REALLY, THE OTHER PIECE THAT'S IN MY MIND IS WHICH VERSION OF TERM LIMITS. IS MORE APPEALING TO ME, THE VERSION THAT WOULD BE ON THE BALLOT INITIATIVE THROUGH SIGNATURES OR THE ONE THAT WOULD BE ON THE BALLOT THE OUR VOTE BECAUSE THE OTHER REALITY OF IT IS WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT HARTFORD COUNTY ELECTION HISTORY, UM NO BALLOT MEASURE. LOCAL BALLOT MEASURE HAS NOT PASSED AS FAR BACK AS 1998. IF SOMETHING IS ON THE BALLOT, PEOPLE BUBBLE IN YES OR SAY I DON'T KNOW AND LEAVE IT BE. UM SO WHATEVER GOES FORTH, I'M CONFIDENT WILL PASS BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF HOW BALLOT QUESTIONS. GO IN HARFORD COUNTY . UM SO IT'S WHICH VERSION DO I WANT TO PASS VIA THE PEOPLE'S VOTES? AND SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING THAT I'M CONSIDERING AND THINKING ABOUT AS I CONTINUE TO LISTENING TO COMMENTS THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. NOW MISS DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO. MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE SIX THIS EVENING. MAJOR DUNBAR, FOLLOWED BY BILL WHELAN. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. PLEASE DON'T BORROW 12 10 FORCED OUT COURT MARYLAND. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THEM HERE AS LEE DUNBAR , A CITIZEN OF HARPER COUNTY IN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR TERM LIMITS. UM. I HAD A NICE LITTLE SPEECH WRITTEN HERE. BUT AFTER LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A CONVICTION OF ME FOR A LONG TIME. IN FACT, EVEN MY UNDERGRAD. ONE OF MY FINAL PAPERS WAS TO WRITE AN ARGUMENT OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW BASED ON IN FAVOR OF TERM LIMITS. AND WHAT I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED THROUGH THE YEARS AND MANY OF YOU KNOW, AND MANY OF THE BOARD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS ADVISING, MANAGING AND ALL THAT IS WHY IT'S AN ISSUE.

IT'S BECAUSE IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR OUR PRESIDENT, AND IT HAS BEEN FOR DECADES, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE GOVERNOR OF OUR STATE. IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR OUR COUNTY COUNCIL. I MEAN, OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE. WHY IS IT NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT OFFICERS AND EVERYONE'S SITTING UP THERE? AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T GO DO A GOOD JOB, BUT IT SHOULD BE A CALLING. AND NOT A CAREER. AND MR GUT, MR. GUNTHER, YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WELL, IF YOU WERE LIMITED TO EIGHT OR 12 YEARS AND YOU WERE FIRED, NOBODY WOULD WANT TO RUN THAT FALLS FLAT ON ITS FACE.

BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I CHECKED RIGHT NOW, I THINK WE HAVE NINE OR 10. REPUBLICAN PRIMARY CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT , AND EVERY TIME WE OPEN UP FOR GOVERNOR, AND EVERY TIME WE OPEN UP FOR COUNTY EXECUTIVE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CANDIDATES. AH, THAT RUN. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE HAVE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE WELL THAT EXPERIENCE AND INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE SHOULD BE PASSED ON. TO THE NEXT PERSON IN TERM LIMITS ALLOWS THAT UM AND MR RILEY, YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT A DEVELOPERS DREAM TO HAVE TERM LIMITS BECAUSE MOST CANDIDATES HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THEIR WAR CHEST. I SAY THAT ARGUMENT FALLS FLAT ON ITS FACE, TOO, BECAUSE DEVELOPERS AND A LOT OF THEM DONATE DONATE A LOT OF MONEY. I'M FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THEM. CAMPAIGNS IS THAT THEY DONATE REGULARLY TO ALL OF YOU AND A LOT OF OTHER POLITICIANS THAT ARE OUT THERE, SO THEY'RE GOING TO DONATE TO THE BEST CANDIDATE, EVEN IF IT'S A NEW CANADA. AND SOMEBODY THAT'S CONVICTED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. ALEX DEVELOPED AN APPROACH WHICH A LOT OF YOU ARE UP THERE, THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE STILL GOING TO DONATE MONEY, SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A DEVELOPER'S DREAM OF TERM LIMITS. TAKE PLACE THAT HASN'T HAPPENED ANYWHERE ACROSS THE STATE OF THE COUNTRY OR ANYWHERE ELSE. AND WE SIT THERE AND TALK ABOUT YOU'VE TALKED TO CONSTITUENTS IN YOUR DISTRICT, SO THAT'S FINE AND YOU SHOULD BRING THOSE ISSUES, BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, BRING IT TO

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THE VOTERS. IN REFERENDUM. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SUPPORTIVE AARON'S AMENDMENT, BUT I PREFER TO TERM LIMITS. I THINK EIGHT YEARS IS PLENTY OF TIME. TO GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT TO THE VOTERS AND DO WHAT YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. SO I THINK THIS ISSUE IS EASILY RESOLVED AND WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO DO A LOT OF DISCUSSION INTERNALLY. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO VOTE ON MINUTE. THAT'S FINE. BUT I WOULD PREFER TO TAKE IT OUT TO THE VOTERS.

AND I THINK WITH POLLING THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE. HERE IN MARYLAND IS 70, PLUS PERCENT APPROVED IT.

BALTIMORE CITY. FOR GOD'S SAKE, QUESTION K. THEY PASSED IT CLOSE TO 80% OF THE PEOPLE WANTED TERM LIMITS. IT'S A TREND, MR BENNETT. YOU'RE RIGHT, AND IT'S THE RIGHT CHAN AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS COUNTY. I THINK ALL OF YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND YOU CAME IN WITH VERY LITTLE TO NO EXPERIENCE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO COME IN IF TERM LIMITS WERE THERE AND NOT HAVE TO GO AGAINST SOMEBODY THAT HAD 50 OR $150,000. AND THEIR WARD SHOWS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IS UP, BUT I GOTTA ASK YOU A QUESTION.

YOU DID NOT MENTION THE SHERIFF, DO YOU BELIEVE THE SHERIFF SHOULD HAVE TERM LIMITS? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY YOU KNOW, I HAVE ATTENTION TO RUN FOR SHERIFF IN THE FUTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF MY CANCER. I ASKED. IT'S A CONVICTION OF MINE. IT WILL BE PART OF MY CAME OUT, BUT IT'S BEEN A CONVICTION WAS A YOUNG MAN. TWO TERMS. TWO TERMS APPRECIATE. MR WHELAN BEFORE YOU START TO SPEAK, CHECK THAT MIKE AND MAKE SURE IT'S ON I JUST GOT A TEXT THAT IT WASN'T NOT PLAYING JOE. COOL AT NIGHT. I HAVE TROUBLES WITH SURGERY. BILL WHALEN 4 15 SEATER SPRINGS ROAD . LARA, MARYLAND. I SUPPORT TERM LIMITS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STILL DO NOT BELIEVE. IS THAT BETTER? YES. I SUPPORT HIM, AND I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH. SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEPRIVE CITIZENS OF THEIR RIGHTS ABOUT EITHER FOR OR AGAINST ARM LIMITS, OR EVEN HOW LONG THAT MAY SERVE. LET'S GO BACK 12 BILL 21 28, BUT LAST MINISTRATIONS WAS THE LIMIT COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE FOR YOUR TURN, REJECTED AN INTRODUCTION BY THE COUNCIL. I BELIEVE THAT WAS WRONG. IN JANUARY THIS YEAR, COUNCIL MEMBERS PAYMENT AND MS SPOILS DISHONORED ALS ANNOUNCED THEY WOULD BE INTRODUCING A BILL FOR TWO FULL YOUR TERMS, THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, PUBLIC STATED.

PRETTY VIOLENTLY THAT THEY WERE AGAINST TERM LIMITS. MR. BENNETT WAS NOT PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THEREFORE 23 0 23 WAS NOT INTRODUCED ON FEBRUARY 7TH. APPARENTLY IT WAS DETERMINED THERE WOULD NOT BE A MINIMUM OF FOUR VOTES TO GET IT PASSED. NOW WE HAVE BUILT 23 0 16 PROPOSES THAT FOR 34 YEAR TERMS, 12 YEARS AFTER THAT THE CANDIDATE COULD ALSO SERVE ANOTHER 12 YEARS AND ALSO PROPOSES. IT IS FATHER'S ME THAT NO TERM OR PART OF ANY TERMS, SIR PRIOR TO THE ELECTION WHEN NOVEMBER 3RD 2026 WOULD BE USED IN CALCULATING THE LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF TERMS ACCOUNTS, A MEMBER MAY SERVE. MR TONY G. I'LL JUST USUALLY EXAMPLE IF YOU WERE CONTINUALLY ELECTED AS AN INCUMBENT, YOU COULD SERVE 12 YEARS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AFTER HAVING ALREADY SERVED EIGHT YEARS PRIOR TO 2026. YOU WOULD THEN BE OLDER. ALL THE SERVE 12 MORE YEARS AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OF 32 YEARS IF ELECTED. AH UNDER THIS THING , I ASSUME, MR SHREWS, MR. WOODS MR WAGNER, AND I HOPE BUNCH OF OTHER WINS UNDER THE BILL. FOR 12 YEARS CAN THEN COME BACK IN AND BE REELECTED. IS THERE A LIFETIME LIMIT? BASED UPON THE PROPOSED TERM LIMITS, NOT STARTING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, 2026 IF APPROVED BY VOTERS, I RECOMMEND CHANGING THE 34 YEAR TERMS TO WHAT IT WAS 24 YEAR TERMS AND ANY NEW MEMBERS CURRENTLY SERVED. THE COUNCIL COULD STILL SERVE 12 YEARS BASED UPON HIS CHANGE. BUT NOT 16 YEARS AS PROPOSED BOTTOM LINE TO VOTERS DECIDE ON TERM LIMITS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND FOR HOW LONG ONE CONSERVE VOTERS ARE STILL ABLE TO SELECT WHO THEY WANT TO SERVE IN THEIR DISTRICT. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS. YOU WANT TO BE CREATIVE. THE BALLOT COULD INCLUDE CIRCLES AS THE TWO AND FOUR AGAINST FOUR TO TERM LIMITS FOR THREE TERM LIMITS OR AGAINST TERM LIMITS. TIME WILL NOT PERMIT ME TO PROVIDE RATIONALE FOR SUPPORT, BUT CERTAINLY MR AARON PERRIMAN IMPAIRMENT BROUGHT A LOT OF THOSE TWO LIGHT AS THE GENERAL MEN BEFORE ME. UH I WILL HAVE A COPY OF THIS AND I'M SOMETHING TO MY TIME, BUT JUST THREE ELECTIONS BECOME LESS MEANINGFUL WHEN A LONG TERM AND COVENANT RUNS, LONGEVITY AND OFFICE PROMOTES SELECTIVE VISION OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT LIMITING TERMS OF OFFICIALS IS NOT A NEW

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CONCEPT. PLEASE BRING YOUR CLUBS STILL CLOSED. AND YOU TO GET A NEW DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE.

THANK YOU, SIR. BENJAMIN HEUSER, FOLLOWED BY KATIE LLOYD. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS.

EVENING BENJAMIN HEUSER. 3412 WIDOWS CARE FALLSTON, MARYLAND, 21047. UM, HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS TERM LIMITS. I DID HAVE A SPEECH. BUT AFTER LISTENING TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST ADDRESS SOME OF THEM. AH, MR GUTHRIE. UM I CAN CONFUSE A CROWD. BY HOW I ASK A QUESTION. IF YOU'RE FOR TERM LIMITS. IF YOU'RE NOT FOR TERM LIMITS, I CAN WORD IT A CERTAIN WAY TO CONFUSE PEOPLE PUT THEM ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. YOU SAID THAT SOME PEOPLE WERE FOR SOME PEOPLE WERE AGAINST IT. WELL, THAT'S A PERFECT TIME TO THROW SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT, RIGHT WHEN YOU GO OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THEY'RE KIND OF TORN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

THAT'S WHEN YOU SAY YOU KNOW WHAT? HEY, LOOK, I REPRESENT YOU ALL. BUT I CAN'T RESENT, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT 50% OF OVER HERE AND 50% OF YOU OVER THERE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND THROW IT ON THE BALLOT. THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO DO SO. UM I FULLY SUPPORT ERIN PENGUINS WITH AMENDMENTS. I HAD A FEW RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS. BUT IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES FOR VOTES, AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. NOW FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME. LET'S SAY I WANT TO RUN FOR COUNTY COUNCIL. AND THE INCUMBENT HAD 60 GRAND IN A WAR CHEST. WHY ON EARTH WOULD I WANT TO RUN? THAT WOULD? THAT WOULD JUST BE AN ABSOLUTE WASTE OF MY TIME? UM ANOTHER THING THAT WAS SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET HIRED, YOU KNOW, YOU SERVED 12 YEARS AND YOU'RE FIRED. WELL, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A JOB AND YOU'RE ONLY BEING HIRED BY ONE PERSON. NOT BY DISTRICT BY COUNTY. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. WHENEVER WE'RE TORN ABOUT A SITUATION LIKE THIS, WHENEVER WE BELIEVE THAT THE LINES ARE REALLY TOWARDS 50 50, OR MAYBE EVEN 40 60. WE SHOULD DEFINITELY GO AND JUST THROW IT ON. JUST THROW IT ON THE BALLOT. WE ALL MAY BE ABLE TO PROJECT WHAT IT MAY BE. HOWEVER THAT DOES ALLOW PACS AND SUPER PACS TO RUN ON CERTAIN ISSUES TO GO AHEAD AND CAMPAIGN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER. HOWEVER I DO THINK HARFORD COUNTY REALLY DOES NEED TO GET WITH THE TIMES. AND ALLOW THE VOTERS WITH THE MOST RECENT GROWTH HAS TAKEN PLACE IN HARFORD COUNTY. TO ALL THE NEW CITIZENS TO DECIDE. SHOULD IT BE, OR SHOULD IT NOT BE? LET'S GO AHEAD AND PLACE IT ON THE BALLOT. LET'S LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE . LLOYD 3, 12. THOMAS STREET. BELLAIRE, MARYLAND. THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT. I DO, UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT WE ARE IN NEED OF TERM LIMITS. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSTANTLY PROVIDE NEW IDEAS. ANY PERSON WHO QUALIFIES DESERVES A CHANCE TO TAKE OFFICE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. OUT WITH THE OLD AND IN WITH THE NEW PLEASE VOTE YES TO TERM LIMITS. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GREG LIQUEUR, FOLLOWED BY RUSS ENGLISH. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, GREG LIQUEUR, 18 20 PARK BEACH DRIVE.

UM I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ALSO, AND IF I CAN DIRECT THEM TO THE COUNCIL WOULD BE, HOWEVER, COUNCIL. UH, DISTRICT BIG YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE TERM LIMITS. OKAY AND YOU HAVE YOUR WEIGHT. EIGHT YEARS. CAN YOU NOW RUN FOR SHERIFF. COUNTY EXECUTIVE. HE'S NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO YOU, SIR. OKAY I JUST WANT TO CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THAT YOU KNOW, SHERIFFS ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S GOING TO BE CROSSING OVER BECAUSE, AS YOU SAID, WITH THE DEVELOPERS THIS IS THERE LIKE YOU KNOW THEY'RE LOVING IT. OKAY BECAUSE IF YOU GET YOUR EIGHT YEARS YOU ARE RIGHT. YOU'RE GROOMING SOMEBODY TO COME IN BEHIND YOU AND EVERYBODY THAT IS GIVING INTO YOUR WAR CHEST IS NOW GIVEN TO THEIRS. ASSUMPTION WHICH A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE MADE HERE. OKAY? NOW. YOU WANT TO GO AND FOLLOW. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SAID YOU CAN'T ANSWER BALTIMORE CITY. YOU WANT TO FOLLOW BALTIMORE CITY? BALTIMORE CITY JUST PASSED THIS AND THEY JUST MADE A SHAMBLES OUT OF IT. AND JUST AS YOU WERE SAYING, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY. BUT THEN MR BENNETT COMES UP AND HE ALSO SAYS ANYTHING PUT ON THE BALLOT. GETS PASSED. SO NOW YOU'VE GOT ALL YOUR PAC MONEY WITH ALL THESE DEVELOPERS, AND THEY CAN INHALE IT. I'M AGAINST IT, ESPECIALLY. I CAN KNOW IF THIS THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED. AND I AM AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

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NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. ENGLISH 26 19 FRANKLIN VILLE ROAD, JOPPA TO 10 85. I'M IN SUPPORT OF IMPLEMENTATIONS. I ALSO RAN AT ONE TIME FOR DELEGATE AND I CAN BRILLIANT SHIRT WITH WHAT AARON IS SAYING WITHOUT A WAR CHEST. YOU REALLY CAN'T GO VERY FAR AT ALL. WHEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEEN IN FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME THEY HAVE DEVELOPED AND PUT IN THEIR THEIR ROOTS SO DEEP IT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THEM OUT. AND I FOUND THIS OUT WHEN I WENT OUT AND ACTUALLY STARTED TALKING TO ALL THE PEOPLE WITHIN DISTRICT SEVEN. I FOUND MULTIPLE THINGS THAT OCCUR. NUMBER ONE NAMED AFTER RECOGNITION RELATED TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. THAT RECOGNITION IS NUMBER ONE IN PARAMOUNT. WITHOUT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. SECOND THING IS WITH THE WAR CHEST. YOU'RE ABLE TO PUT OUT MAILERS THAT THAT IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE HAS OCCURRED IN THE POLITICAL SYSTEM. THE DYNAMICS OF THE POLITICAL SYSTEM HAS CHANGED ROUTINELY, BUT IT'S BEEN A MONSTER CHANGE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. AS A CHILD. I CAN REMEMBER SITTING ON MY FATHER'S SHOULDERS HOLDING A WOODEN BASICALLY FLAMING TORCH, A STYROFOAM HAT AND LISTENING AT THE TIME TO VICE PRESIDENT NIXON. GIVING HIS SPEECH GIVING AN IDEAS BRINGING TO THE PEOPLE. THAT DYNAMIC HAS CHANGED WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE RALLIES ANYMORE. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING OUT THERE FOR THE PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO, AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS NUMBER ONE WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING ANYTHING BACK FROM OUR POLITICIANS TO US, THE CITIZENS THOSE CHANGES. THOSE IDEAS THAT ARE THERE ARE NOT 100% FACTUAL, YOU CAN GO ON AND LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT ONES AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY SIDE BY SIDE. ONE AGAINST THE OTHER, AND THEY'RE NOT WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE. THE ONLY THING I'VE SEEN TO COME OUT SO FAR FROM ANY OF OUR POLITICIANS THAT MAKES 100% SENSE WAS A BASIC, A SELF IMPOSED REPORT CARD GIVEN BY J.

B. JENNINGS AND THAT SAME PIECE OF PAPER HE HAD AARON UM LAURA AMERICAN ON THERE, KATHY CHALET GONE THERE, BUT NOT, UH, IMPALLARIA. HE PUT OUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE DURING THAT SESSION. ALL THE DIFFERENT BILLS THAT CAME OUT EVERYTHING THAT CAME TO US. THEY WERE HOW THEY VOTED AND WHO VOTED FOR IT. MAKING IT VERY SIMPLE FOR THE PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

THIS MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU CAN AMEND YOURS PUT IN THE REPORT CARD FROM YOU PEOPLE TO US SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. YOU DON'T SEE IT. YOU DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO GO OUT AND LOOK IT UP. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS DONE. OUR DELEGATES HAVE DONE OR ARE SENATORS HAVE DONE? BUT WHEN MR JENNINGS HAS PUT OUT WAS ABSOLUTELY GREAT. 100% IN FAVOR OF TERMINAL STATIONS, AND UNFORTUNATELY, AARON I'M FOR THREE YEARS OR THREE TERMS. THE REASON IS IF YOU MIMIC OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE, WHICH IS TWO YEARS THEN YOU TURN AROUND. YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AUDIT. ONE TIME AN ACADEMIC TRUST THE GOVERNMENT. PUTTING A THREE YEAR PEACE IN THERE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS ONE OR TWO PEOPLE TO ROLL OVER AND KEEP THAT. BASICALLY CONTINUITY WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT CONTINUING SO THAT'S THE REASON I LIKE THE 33 TERM LIMIT. SO UNFORTUNATELY TIME IS RUNNING UP AND I HAVE A LOT MORE TO GO ON. I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS , MR PRESIDENT WITH NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 23-0 16,

[g. Bill 23-017 (School Bus Stop Arm – Camera Fees)]

AND WE WILL TAKE IT UP AT A FUTURE MEETING. BUILT 23-0 17 SCHOOL BUS STOP ARMED CAMERA FEES, MR ROBBINS. MR GONZALEZ GOING TO JOIN YOU? YES YEP. I'LL SEE YOU, SIR.

LITTLE LONGER THAN ME, BIG MAN. I DIDN'T SEE THAT I DID. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. GOOD EVENING , MR PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD. ERIC ROBI, DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS FOR THE HARPER COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. TO MY RIGHT IS MAJOR ERIC GONZALEZ. HE'S THE CHIEF OF OUR PATROL SERVICES BUREAU. THE BILL YOU HAD BEFORE YOU TODAY, 23-017 IS A CLEAN UP BILL. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS DOES. WHEN THE MARYLAND GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN 2011 GAVE THE AUTHORITY FOR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO ENACT A SCHOOL BUS STOP ARM CAMERA PROGRAM. THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR IN THE LEGISLATION THAT IT WOULD BE THE DISTRICT COURT THAT ACTUALLY SETS THE CITATION, SO NOT ONLY DO THEY DO THEY DO? THEY COME UP WITH THE PARAMETERS ON WHAT IS ON THAT CITATION, BUT THEY ALSO SET THE FEE FOR THAT CITATION IN 2014. THE HARPER COUNTY COUNCIL ADOPTED 14-030 SET THE FEET $125 FOR A SCHOOL BUS STOP ARM DIGITAL VIOLATION HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY. UM THAT HAS A WITH THE WITH THE COUNTY, SETTING THE FEE AT THAT LEVEL.

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ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT DID IS, IT TOOK AWAY THE DISTRICT COURT'S ABILITY TO SET THE FEE STATE LAW , OF COURSE, TRUMP'S COUNTY LAW IN THIS CASE, SO WHAT? THIS PIECE? WHAT THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION DOES IS, IT ACTUALLY ADDS IN LANGUAGE DIRECTLY FROM THE DIRECTLY FROM THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED IN 2011, GIVING THE DISTRICT COURT GIVEN THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE DISTRICT COURT. THE ABILITY TO SET THE FIND FOR ANY SCHOOL STOP ARM CAMERA VIOLATION HERE IN HARVARD, KELLY MAJOR, YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? UM THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS CAN YOU PULL THAT MY THING? I CAN TELL YOU IF THIS IS A VALUE TO YOU, WE'VE HAD 876 CITATIONS SENT TO US FROM THE COMPANY WITH 863 BEING SENT OUT SINCE, UH, FEBRUARY 15TH, AND THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 10% IT'S ON 10% OF THE 10% OF THE BUSSES, SO I DO THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE TYPICALLY, BUT, UM IT'S HARD TO ENFORCE BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITED ON HOW MANY TIMES WE CAN BE BEHIND A SCHOOL BUS DRIVING AROUND EVERY DAY. SO THIS I THINK THIS WOULD HELP.

IT'S ACTUALLY 20% SORRY, MISSPOKEN. WELL UM, ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD LEANING UP TO THIS WITH THE SHERIFF AS WELL. SO COUNCIL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ANYONE? MR BENNETT. HAVE YOU SINCE FEBRUARY, HAD ANYBODY WHO'S GOTTEN A SECOND TICKET LIKE YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE REPEATEDLY VIOLATING, UH, STOPPING BEHIND A SCHOOL BUS BECAUSE I WAS JUST WONDERING FUTURE. THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO DIRECTLY IF THIS BILL BUT OF HAVING A DETERRENT FOR REPEATED VIOLET VIOLATIONS, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE WILLING TO EAT $250 TO BE UNSAFE AND UNKIND OF CHILDREN. BUT YOU KNOW IF YOU DO IT A SECOND TIME A THIRD TIME THERE'S AN ACCELERATION OF CONSEQUENCES. SO COUNSELOR BENNETT. I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS ONE THAT I KNOW WAS BROUGHT UP THIS YEAR IN ANNAPOLIS DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF BILLS DEALING WITH STOP ARMED CAMERAS. UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY THE STATE LAW IS WRITTEN, THERE IS NO PROVISION IN THERE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GO ABOVE THE PENALTY OF $250. THAT'S THE MAXIMUM FINE THAT A COUNTY OR JURISDICTION CAN SET. BUT IT'S CERTAINLY MIGHT BE A GOOD GOOD CONVERSATION POINT WITH THE DELEGATION. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD ANY SECOND VIOLATIONS. UM CERTAINLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT OUT OF THE OUT OF THE NUMBERS WE'VE RECEIVED, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE ALL OF THEM ARE HAVE BEEN FIRST TIME. BUT BUT AGAIN, IT'S ONLY THE FIRST THREE MONTHS. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? VERY SOON. NO ONE ELSE ANY . SIGNED UP. WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER MR PRESIDENT, BILL WAYLAND. GOOD EVENING, SIR SPRINGS ROAD, L R MARYLAND. I AM FOR BILL 23 17, BUT I CAME HERE MAINLY BECAUSE SOME QUESTIONS COME TO MIND AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN BE ANSWERED. 100 OF THE COUNTY'S 500 PLUS IS OUTFITTED BY ANGEL TRACKS IN FEBRUARY, AND I UNDERSTAND THEY WERE PAID FOR BY ANGEL TRACKS AND NO COST TO THE COUNTY OR PUBLIC SCHOOLS ACCEPT 50. THE MONEY IS RETURNED TO THE VENDOR. ANY OTHER HALF GOES TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. AND RIGHT NOW, THE CAMERA RECORD VIOLATIONS OR 100 AND 25 WHEN I READ THE FISCAL REPORT, AND THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME. THE COUNTY CODE ALLOWS 225. AND IF ADOPTED, THE CURRENT RATE IS SET BY THE COURT TO 50. THIS FINE WAS SET IN 2014. BUT THE COUNTY DID NOT REALLY BEGIN ENFORCING THE CAMERA SYSTEM UNTIL MID FEBRUARY. 2023 IT SAYS APPROXIMATELY 600 CITATIONS BEEN ISSUED, BUT SOME FINES WERE NOT COLLECTIBLE BECAUSE 225 RATE IN THE CODE. IT'S NOT THE RATES SET BY THE DISTRICT COURT. ASSUMING THE CURRENT LEVEL OF CITATIONS AND THE DISTRICT COURT RATE THE COUNTY COULD APPROVED COLLECT APPROXIMATELY $600,000 PER YEAR IN SCHOOL BUS CAMERA, STOP OUR RELATIONS SUPER LEAGUE THAT WOULD GO DOWN AFTER PEOPLE LIKE LEARNED HER LESSON. UM WHY? WHY WAS IT NOT COLLECTED AT THE LOWER RATE THEY COULD HAVE COLLECTED 75,000 AND FIGHTS IF YOU WERE COLLECTED THAT JUST BECAUSE IT WAS HIGHER, UM, WHY? THAT'S ONE QUESTION IF YOU WON'T BE HOLD THAT I HAVE OTHER ONES THAT, UH, THE SAME TIME YOUR ANALYSIS STATES A CURRENT LEVEL LIKE AGAIN OF 2 50. 600,000 DIVIDED BY 2 50 IS 2400 VIOLATIONS AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY COULD GO DOWN. MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WHAT IS THE PROXIMATE CAUSE OF EACH CAMERA, AND I'VE READ AS MUCH AS 2000, AND THEN IT'S THE VENDOR EVENTUALLY GOING TO PAY UP WHERE THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL. AH FI GOING BACK TO

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HIM. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT IS THE TIME LIMIT ON IT IF HE GETS 50% OF THE FINES COLLECTED AFTER AWHILE, HE'LL BE COLLECTING MORE THAN WHAT IS THE CAMERAS ARE WORK. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS OR HOW MANY MORE BUSSES OR NEEDED. UH, APPARENTLY, THE 100 WERE PLACED IN STRATEGIC SOUNDS. THAT'S KIND OF. SO MR WHALE AND IF I MAY I'D HAVE MR ROBY CONTACT YOU AND ASK THOSE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM MR ROBY WILL OH, OKAY, OKAY. I THANK YOU. MR WILL. NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT, VERY GOOD WITH NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON BILL 23-0 17. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN WILL BE TAKEN UP IN THE FUTURE MEETING.

[h. Bill 23-018 (Pay Plan and Classification Plan)]

BUILD 23-0 18 PAY PLAN AND CLASSIFICATION PLAN, MISS STEVENS. HARRY YOU HELLO, GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM DIRECTOR TIFFANY STEVENS, DIRECTOR OF HR FOR HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT, AND I HAVE NICOLE BARNWELL WITH ME. SHE'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF HR. YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE A PACKET THAT YOU RECEIVED. THIS AFTERNOON, PROBABLY. AND IF YOU WANT TO TURN TO, UM SIX PAGES, THE BRIEFING PAPER FOR WHAT WILL BE GOING OVER. UM, SO WHAT I WILL BE PRESENTING IS THE REQUESTED CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLAN CHANGES FOR FY 24. HAVE YOU WILL SEE THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS PROPOSING IN THE PAYING CLASS PLAN FOR 24 THAT THE MINIMUM OF EACH GRADE BE INCREASED BY 3. AND THEN CLASSIFICATIONS IN THE L B ONE THROUGH THE C. 1/6 GRADES BE ADJUSTED TO COMPLY WITH MARYLAND'S NEW MINIMUM WAGE , WHICH IS NOT EFFECTIVE UNTIL JANUARY. 1ST 24 TO THE $15 AN HOUR WHICH IS THE 31 200. THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS PROPOSING FOR NEW CLASSIFICATIONS TO BE CREATED. SIX EXISTING CLASSIFICATIONS BE DELETED. IN ADDITION, 13 CLASSIFICATIONS RECEIVE A TITLE CHANGE. ONLY ONE CLASSIFICATION BE DOWNGRADED AND TWO CLASSIFICATIONS TO BE UPGRADED. THE CREATION OF THE FOUR NEW CLASSIFICATIONS RESULTS AND NO NEW POSITIONS, NO ADDITIONAL PINS. UM THOSE ARE ALL CREATED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO IF YOU WANT TO TURN YOUR PAGE, YOU WILL SEE A SUMMARY THERE. THAT KIND OF GOES OVER THE FOUR NEW CLASSIFICATIONS, THE DELETIONS, THE GREAT CHANGES AND THE TITLE CHANGES. AND THEN BEYOND THAT, YOU'LL SEE IS THE BILL. WHERE YOU WILL SEE THE SALARY SCHEDULE , WHICH HAS THE OLD MINIMUM NEW MINIMUM. AND THEN BEYOND THAT IS THE LEGISLATIVE DRAFT OF THE BILL, AND THEN BEYOND THAT, YOU WILL SEE WHERE WE HAVE THE ALPHABETICAL CLASSIFICATION LISTING. EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGED. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME, I CAN GO THROUGH. THE NEW OKAY, SO I WILL GO OVER THE CREATION OF THE FOUR NEW CLASSIFICATIONS. UM SO WE HAVE ASKING FOR A LEAD COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST AND THIS IS IN OUR TRANSIT AREA SOONER TRANSPORTATION AREA IN THEIR COMMUNICATIONS AREA. UM WE ARE CREATING AN E. M S LIEUTENANT. THAT'S TO GO ALONG WITH ALL OF THE PARAMEDICS AND EMTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN BRINGING ON BOARD. THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DUE TO THE NAME CHANGE OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. YOU WILL SEE THE DELETIONS LITTER CONTROL PROGRAM SUPERVISOR. WE NO LONGER HAVE THE LANDFILL. WE DON'T HIRE PEOPLE FOR THAT AREA. PUBLIC SAFETY HAS MATT MANAGER WE HAVE CONSOLIDATED THAT INTO ONE OF OUR OTHER TITLES THAT YOU'LL SEE LATER DOWN. RECYCLING PROGRAM COORDINATOR AND RECYCLING PROGRAM MANAGER AGAIN BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE THE LANDFILL, THE DELETION OF THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND THEN THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS AS WE NO LONGER HAVE A GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS DEPARTMENT. THREE GRADE CHANGES. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR TO BE UPGRADED. THE CHIEF OF FACILITIES OPERATIONS DIVISION TO BE DOWNGRADED TO MATCH WHAT THE ADMINISTRATOR IS AS WELL AS MOST OF OUR OTHER CHIEF POSITIONS. AND THEN RMS SUPERVISOR UPGRADED. THEN YOU'LL SEE THE 13 CLASSIFICATION TITLE CHANGES. SO CHIEF OF STAFF TO CHIEF OF EXECUTIVE STAFF DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF TO DEPUTY CHIEF OF EXECUTIVE STAFF. DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE E. M S SUPERVISOR TO AN E. M S CAPTAIN.

PUBLIC SAFETY ASSISTANT SHIFT MANAGER TO A PUBLIC SAFETY CAPTAIN. PUBLIC SAFETY BRANCH MANAGER TO A PUBLIC SAFETY DIVISION CHIEF. PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER, ONE TO A PUBLIC

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SAFETY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST ONE AND IN THE SERIES THERE WE HAVE A TWO AND A THREE.

AND THEN YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER, PROBATIONARY TO PUBLIC SAFETY, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST PROBATIONARY. PUBLIC SAFETY SHIFT MANAGER TO A PUBLIC SAFETY BATTALION CHIEF AND A PUBLIX DEFEAT SHIFT SUPERVISOR TO A PUBLIC SAFETY LIEUTENANT. UM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE NAME NOMENCLATURE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHER TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST ACTUALLY CAME AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM R. M. C E A UNION. AND THIS IS BASED ON LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED DOWN IN ANNAPOLIS. I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR, UM, AND HOW THEY MADE MENTION OF THE TITLES FOR DISPATCHERS, SO THEY HAD PUT IN THAT REQUEST TO MAKE THAT TITLE CHANGE. AND THEN THE TITLE CHANGES FOR YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS AGAIN THAT WAS BRINGING ON ALL THE PARAMEDICS AND EMTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT ON. TO GIVE THEM LEVELS. THAT IS IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. BUT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS. NICOLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

THANK YOU. UM, COUNCIL TIME FOR QUESTIONS. ANYONE. MR BENNETT. UM JUST IN UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THESE CLASS CLASSIFICATIONS LIKE I SEE A CUSTODIAL WORKER. ONE IS L B TWO. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO'S CLASSIFIED AS LB? ONE CURRENTLY SO WE DO. UM I WANT TO SAY WE PROBABLY ONLY HAVE LESS THAN A HANDFUL. AND WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS. POSITION WE HAVE IS CALLED A LABORER, AND THAT'S MOSTLY IN OUR DPW DIVISION IN THE HIGHWAYS. AND CURRENTLY, IF YOU'RE A NEW HIRE, WITHOUT THIS LEGISLATION, AND ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS, YOUR STARTING SALARY AT MINIMUM WOULD BE 21,828 A YEAR. AS A FULL TIME LABOR AND DPW. YES WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT HIRED ANY LABORERS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN THE EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. WE KIND OF HAVE KIND OF JUST KIND OF PUT THAT ONE ON THE BACK BURNER, BUT WE DO HAVE PEOPLE CURRENTLY IN THAT ROLE THEY ARE NOT MAKING $21,000 AND SAME THING FOR LB TWO. CURRENTLY IF YOU WERE A NEW HIRED CUSTODIAL STAFF, THE MINIMUM YOU WOULD BE PAID IS $23,052 A YEAR TO BE ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN, YES. SO THIS WOULD BRING THAT UP BY THE 9.5 $1000 SO CUSTODIAL WORKER. WOULD BE MAKING $32,000 A YEAR AS A NEW HIRE A REMINDER WE HAVE TO BRING THESE UP TO THE 31 TO ANYWAY.

JANUARY 1 SO BUT CURRENTLY, YES. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. MR GUTHRIE. I'M CURIOUS OF THAT.

WHEN YOU SAY, SAY THE MINIMUM MAXIMUM. SOME OF THEM ARE MORE THAN DOUBLE. YOU KNOW WHO DETERMINES WHERE THE PERSON THAT'S HIRED AND ONCE THEY'RE HARD AT WHATEVER WAGE THEY'RE HARD AT HOW THEY WHO DETERMINES IF THEY CAN MAKE THE MAXIMUM WE DO AN HR. HR YEP, FROM WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM BASED ON THEIR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, AS WELL AS THEIR EDUCATION LEVEL.

AND I GUESS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THEIR BOSS. IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE BUDGET, TOO. SO YEAH, ONLY LETS US SPEND SO MUCH, BUT I WOULD EXPECT YOU NEED A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE SUPER OF SUPERVISORS AND BEFORE YOU GAVE HIM AN INCREASE WE DO AGAIN. IT THEY GIVE US WHAT THEY HAVE BUDGETED AND THEN WE USE THAT TO GAUGE WHERE WE CAN HIRE THE PERSON BASED ON THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, MISS DIXON, DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP? THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR PRESIDENT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BILL 23. 0 18. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK

[i. Bill 23-019 (Amend 2018 Land Preservation-Parks and Recreation Plan)]

YOU. BILL 23-0 19. AMEND 2018 LAND PRESERVATION, PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN, MR MAGNUS MR HANLEY, MR GRIMM. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. BELIEVE ME. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS PAUL MAGNUS. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION FOR HARPER COUNTY AND OBVIOUSLY JOINED AGAIN BY SHANE GRIM, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING, AS WELL AS TERRY HANLEY, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION AGAIN. WE'RE HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THE 2022 LAND PRESERVATION, PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN. AGAIN THIS PLAN IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF MARYLAND, UM, IN ORDER FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO

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QUALIFY FOR PROGRAM OPEN SPACE FUNDING THAT IS MADE AVAILABLE AS PART OF THE PROGRAM OPEN SPACE. PROGRAM RUN BY THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND AS ADMINISTERED BY THEM OVERALL ARE 2022 PLAN IS AN UPDATE OF THE 2018 PLAN AS IT RELATES TO RECREATION, NATURAL RESOURCE CONSERVATION AND AG PRESERVATION EFFORTS IN HARTFORD COUNTY. UM AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH. HERE WE GO. OKAY EVERY COUNTY AGAIN IS REQUIRED TO PRESENT A PLAN BY THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND AGAIN AND EVALUATES THE DEMAND FOR PARKLANDS AND RECREATION FACILITIES BASED ON NEED, PROXIMITY AND EQUITY ANALYSIS AND OUTLINES GOALS AND PRIORITIES FOR OUR DEPARTMENT FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS. UM IT'S BAIT. THE PLAN ITSELF IS BROKEN DOWN INTO FOUR CHAPTERS. THE FIRST CHAPTER IS BASICALLY THE FRAMEWORK WHICH REGARD WHICH DISCUSSES EXISTING CONDITIONS, BOTH GEOGRAPHIC, PHYSICAL AND DEMOGRAPHIC. CONDITIONS IN THE COUNTY ITSELF. THE BULK OF THE PLAN IS THE RECORDS CHAPTER TWO, WHICH IS THE RECREATION PARKS AND OPEN SPACE PORTION, WHICH AGAIN WE GO THROUGH THE SUPPLY AND INVENTORY OUR DEMANDS AND NEEDS ANALYSIS. THE PROXIMITY AND EQUITY ANALYSIS THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE AS WELL AS COUNTY PRIORITIES. CHAPTER THREE IS A NATURAL RESOURCE AND CONSERVATION PORTION OF THE PLAN. AND CHAPTER FOUR IS THE AG LAND PRESERVATION PORTION OF THE PLAN, WHICH IS ADMINISTERED AND PUT TOGETHER BY OUR FRIENDS AT PARK PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH IS WHY I'M JOINED BY SHANE TONIGHT. SO AGAIN, CHAPTER ONE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW PIECES WITH REGARDS TO AGAIN. IT'S EXISTING CONDITIONS, SO IT'S EVERYTHING FROM GEOGRAPHIC, YOU KNOW, WATER FEATURES PRIME SOILS DEVELOPMENT PATTERN HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WITHIN THE COUNTY. UM AND THEN WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SO AGAIN, UM, TOTAL POPULATION WISE, THE 2020 CENSUS. THE COUNTY'S POPULATION IS 260,924. THIS IS A 6% INCREASE BASED, UH SINCE 2010 THE LAST CENSUS IT IS. IT MAKES HARFORD COUNTY THEN BY PERCENTAGE WISE. THE THIRD FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE BALTIMORE METROPOLITAN AREA. AGAIN SINCE THE 2010 PLAN. UM OR SINCE THE 2010 CENSUS. EXCUSE ME , THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE LIVING IN URBAN AREAS HAS GONE UP, WHICH IS NOT A SURPRISE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE IS WHERE, AS A COUNTY, WE DIRECT THE BULK OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. UM RECREATION COUNCILS WITH THE MOST GROWTH SINCE THE LAST PLAN HAVE BEEN FORREST HILL, JARRETTSVILLE, DUBLIN, DARLINGTON AND BELCAMP.

AND THERE'S A BY PERCENTAGE AS OPPOSED TO MOSTLY BY PERCENTAGE , AS OPPOSED TO ABSOLUTE NUMBERS. AND THEN THE RECREATION COUNCILS THAT ARE PROJECTED TO GROW OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS ARE ABERDEEN HAVING GRACE BELCAMP, EMERTON AND JOPPATOWNE? UH AS WITH THE 2018 PLAN, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE DEPARTMENT. UM THE LAST TWO SETS OF PLANS. SO I DID THE 2011 AS WELL AS THE 2018 PLAN. UM, WE ARE AS A COUNTY OVERALL, AND IT'S A SOCIETY OVERALL GETTING OLDER. UM AND ACTUALLY, THAT IS VERY REFLECTED IN THE INFORMATION DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF THE LARGEST AGE GROUP GROWTH IS IN THE 65 PLUS COMMUNITY. IN THE COUNTY. AGAIN IN THE CHAPTER TWO. WE TALK ABOUT OUR SUPPLY AND INVENTORY.

AGAIN WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY COUNTY BUT ALSO STATE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY FEDERALLY OWNED LANDS, BUT ALSO MUNICIPAL LANDS. UM WE TALK ABOUT OUR RECREATION COUNCILS AND THEIR PROGRAMMING THAT THEY OFFER. UM AND THE PHENOMENAL JOB THAT THEY DO TO COMPLEMENT OUR GREAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM. WE DISCUSSED WATER ACCESS AS WELL AS, UM TRAIL, MILES AND OTHER OTHER ITEMS AGAIN JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS OVERALL FROM AN ACREAGE STANDPOINT IN THE COUNTY SYSTEM . SORRY COUNTY SYSTEM, WE HAVE ALMOST 4900 ACRES OF COUNTY PARKLAND. UM, AGAIN. WE HAVE 324 ACRES OF UNITS OF YOU MUNICIPAL PARKLAND. AND THEN THERE'S OVER 7000 ACRES OF STATE PARKLAND BETWEEN SUSQUEHANNA STATE PARK ROCK STATE PARK AND THE GUNPOWDER. UM WE DO AS A RESULT OF THE JOINT USE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WE ARE ALLOWED TO COUNT A PORTION OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION SITES TOWARDS OUR ACREAGE. UM AND SO, BASED ON THAT PERCENTAGE WE ARE ABLE TO INCLUDE 1800 ACRES BASICALLY, BOARD OF ED SITES AGAIN. WE HAVE EIGHT ACTIVITY RECREATION CENTERS IN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE TO NATURE CENTERS. THE BASEBALL DIAMONDS AND SOFTBALL DIAMONDS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AGAIN AS A DEPARTMENT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ALL OF THOSE BALL DIAMONDS, WHETHER THEY'RE AT COUNTY PARK SITES OR WHETHER THEY HAD PUBLIC SCHOOL SITES. UM WE HAVE BASKETBALL COURTS BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR. I WOULD MAKE A NOTE AS AN EXAMPLE WITH THE INDOOR BASKETBALL COURTS AGAIN.

UM AS WITH THE 2018 PLAN, 90% OF OUR INDOOR BASKETBALL COURTS ARE WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. SO WHILE

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WE DO ENJOY, OBVIOUSLY THAT GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM THROUGH OUR JOINT USE AGREEMENT , IT ALSO MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK AROUND THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS SCHEDULING OF THEIR FACILITIES.

UM WE HAVE EIGHT VOLLEYBALL COURTS OVER 46 MILES OF TRAILS 17 SITES WITH WATER ACCESS. UM I SAID, I SEE TENNIS COURTS ON THIS ONE. TRUST ME WHEN WE DO THE NEXT VERSION OF THE 2027 PLAN THAT WILL INCLUDE INFORMATION ABOUT PICKLEBALL. UM AGAIN, AS PART OF OUR PLAN WERE REQUIRED TO INCLUDE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. UM, AS WE DID WITH THE 2011 PLAN AND THE 2018 PLAN. WE PUT OUT A PUBLIC SURVEY THIS THROUGH SURVEYMONKEY. WE HAD OVER 1600 RESPONSES. THIS IS ACTUALLY ALMOST 400 MORE RESPONSES COMPARED TO OUR 2018 PLAN AND OVER MORE THAN 600 RESPONSES COMPARED TO OUR 2011 PLAN. UM WE ASKED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO NATURE PROGRAMMING, SENIOR CITIZEN PROGRAMS. THERAPEUTIC RECREATION , GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT PARK VISITATION, SPORTS PROGRAMS. OVERALL PARTICIPATION. UM WHAT. SURVEY RESPONDENTS WANT TO SEE AS FACILITIES THAT, UM WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE AS WELL AS FUTURE BUDGET PRIORITIES. IN ADDITION, THE DRAFT PLAN WAS PRESENTED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY BOARD IN MARCH OF 2022 , THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD IN MARCH OF 2022 AND OUR RECREATION COUNCIL PRESIDENTS AT THEIR MARCH 2022 MEETING. THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE PLAN WAS THEN MADE AVAILABLE.

THROUGH THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE IN THE MONTH FROM FEBRUARY 17TH OF 2023 THROUGH MARCH 15TH OF THIS YEAR. AGAIN SOME OF THOSE TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. YOU CAN SEE THAT 96% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AT A PARK WITHIN THE PAST 10 YEARS OR EXCUSE ME. FIVE YEARS 45% OF THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED IN NATURE OR SPORTS PROGRAMS, WHETHER THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT OR WHETHER THROUGH ONE OF OUR RECREATION COUNCIL PARTNERS, UM , AND POPULAR POPULAR ACTIVITIES INCLUDE WALKING AND BIKING ON PAVED AND UNPAVED TRAILS, AS WELL AS ENJOYING NATURE AS AND PLAYGROUNDS. UM, TAKEAWAYS ALSO AGAIN. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT BUDGET PRIORITIES, PEOPLE IDENTIFIED THE DESIRE FOR MORE PAVED AND UNPAVED TRAILS, RECREATION CENTERS, ACCESS TO FITNESS, CANOEING AND KAYAK LAUNCHES AS WELL AS PICKLEBALL. UM POP BUDGET PRIORITIES AGAIN, WE'RE AGAIN WALKING TRAILS, ACTIVITY CENTERS, UM, LAND ACQUISITIONS, PLAYGROUNDS AND OTHER PARK AMENITIES. OVERALL THERE IS A HIGH LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WITH OUR FACILITIES AND OUR PROGRAMMING BASED ON SURVEY RESULTS. UM THE STATE AGAIN. BACK IN 2020 18. THE STATE IMPLEMENTED A PROXIMITY AND EQUITY ANALYSIS. UM SO WHAT THAT REQUIRES FOR US TO DO AS PART OF OUR OVERALL SYSTEM IS TO BASICALLY TAKE ALL OF OUR PARK SITES AND ALL OF OUR PUBLIC RECREATION SITES AGAIN. PARTNERED WITH OUR FRIENDS AT PLANNING AND ZONING. UM, USING G . I S MAPPING THAT ALLOWS US TO THEN LOOK AT PROXIMITY ANALYSIS . SO WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE, WE USE A HALF. MILE AREA AROUND EACH OF THOSE SITES OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE . WE USE A FIVE MILE RADIUS AROUND THOSE, UH, SITES AGAIN. THAT'S EQUATES TO ROUGHLY A 15 MINUTE, UH, TRAVEL TIME DRIVING TIME. UM ARE MAPS WERE ALSO CREATED FOR THE FOLLOWING FACILITY TYPES AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE. INCLUDING SPORTS FIELDS AND COURTS, RECREATION CENTERS IN GYMS, TRAILS, FISHING AND WATER ACCESS PLAYGROUNDS AND PICNIC AREAS. THE STATE ALSO, THEN WANTS US TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND USED AND DO WHAT THEY DO AN EQUITY ANALYSIS. SO THE EVERY CENSUS TRACK IN HARFORD COUNTY WAS RATED BY THE STATE BASED ON THESE FACTORS YOU SEE HERE, INCLUDING PROXIMITY TO PUBLIC PARK SPACE CONCENTRATION OF CHILDREN UNDER 17, AS WELL AS ADULTS OVER 65 CONCENTRATION OF LOW INCOME POPULATION. OVERALL POPULATION DENSITY CONCENTRATION OF NON WHITE POPULATION WHEN COMPARED TO THE STATE AVERAGE, THE CONCENTRATION OF LINGUISTICALLY ISOLATED POPULATIONS AND THE WALK ABILITY OR LIMITED ACCESS TO TRANSIT.

AND EACH AGAIN, EACH OF THOSE CENSUS TRACTS WAS PROVIDED A SCORE AND THE HIGHER THE SCORE THE HIGHER THE PRIORITY IN THAT EQUITY ANALYSIS THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL CENSUS TRACK IS CONSIDERED. UM AS PART OF THE OVERALL NEEDS ANALYSIS AGAIN, HARFORD NEXT IDENTIFIED UH, 30 ACRES PER, UH, EVERY 1000 COUNTY RESIDENTS AS AN OVERALL GOAL. AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS . AND THIS L P. P. R P S YOU CAN SEE, BASED ON THE ACREAGE THAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE POPULATION.

UM WE DO MEET THAT GOAL OF 30.1 ACRES, UM, FOR PURPOSES OF JUST FUTURE CONSIDERATION FOR ACQUISITIONS. UM, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN, UM, OUR ACQUISITIONS. OF THE 30 ACRES PER 1000 RESIDENTS. IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OVER THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS OF HOW MUCH LAND AGAIN AS A

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DEPARTMENT WE WOULD NEED TO ADD TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM. AGAIN AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THE STATE WITH THE PROXIMITY ANALYSIS. THIS IS THE VISUAL REPRESENTATION. BASICALLY OF THAT ANALYSIS FROM OUR OVERALL THIS IS ALL OF OUR SITES THAT ARE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE, AS YOU HAVE SEEN IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE PLAN THAT WAS SENT TO YOU, UM OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE WE'RE MEETING THAN WE ARE, FROM A PROXIMITY STANDPOINT, MEETING THE NEEDS BECAUSE ALL OF OUR FACILITIES FALL WITHIN A FIVE MINUTE OR EXCUSE ME A FIVE MILE AREA. UM AND A 15 MINUTE DRIVE. IT'S INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE WHERE WE SEE CHALLENGES FOR OUR FUTURE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS VISUAL REPRESENTATION ON THE MAP. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AREAS OF JOPPATOWNE, UM AS WELL AS FALLSTON NEAR ROUTE 1, 47 PORTIONS OF FORREST HILL AND HICKORY FOUNTAIN GREEN EMERTON BELCAMP PERRIMAN AREA ABERDEEN AS WELL AS HAVING A GRACE. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WITH THE EQUITY ANALYSIS AGAIN, THIS IS THE VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THOSE OVERALL SCORES BASED ON THE CENSUS TRACTS AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM THE GREEN IS AREAS THAT HAVE A LOW PRIORITY IN TERMS OF THE EQUITY ANALYSIS AGAIN THE RED AND AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY UP THE COLOR SCALE. YOU CAN SEE THE RED ARE THE AREAS THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IN TERMS OF EQUITY ANALYSIS, THE HIGHEST SCORES AGAIN AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS THEIR AREAS. UM THE GREATEST NEED FOR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES BASED ON EQUITY ANALYSIS WOULD BE AN EDGEWOOD BELCAMP ABERDEEN AS WELL AS EASTERN PORTIONS OF HAVING A GRACE. AT THE END OF THE DAY. WHAT WE THEN DO IS TAKE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND AGAIN, THE VISUAL REPRESENTATION ON THIS MAP HERE SHOWS ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AGAIN . YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THAT, UM , WE HAVE AREAS OF NEED WITHIN BEL AIR. JOPPA EMERTON, EDGEWOOD BELCAMP AND HAVE A GRACE. UM SO AS WE MAKE DECISIONS WITH REGARDS TO, UM OUR ANNUAL. AS WELL AS OUR ANNUAL BUDGET AS WELL AS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRIORITY WITH REGARDS TO COMPETING PROJECTS. THIS IS ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE USE IN ORDER TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT ORDER IN WHICH PROJECTS GET FUNDED. UM AGAIN. THE COUNTY RECREATION GOALS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT WE SET PREVIOUSLY. UM IT'S THE ACQUISITION OF ADDITIONAL RECREATION LAND, INCLUDING WATERFRONT PROPERTIES TO HELP MEET THE NEEDS OF CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS. DEVELOPING INTEGRATED GREENWAY LAND AND WATER TRAIL SYSTEMS, WITH BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SEGMENTS. MONITORING USAGE TRENDS, INCLUDING EXISTING AND IMPROVING EXISTING FACILITIES, AS WELL AS DEVELOPING NEW AND COMPLEMENTARY FACILITIES THAT ADD ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL SEGMENTS OF THE COUNTY POPULATION, AS WELL AS SUPPORT THE DESTINATION RECREATION SPORTS TOURISM MARKET. PROVIDE ACTIVE AND HEALTHY LIFESTYLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HARFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS. WE ALSO AGAIN I MENTIONED OUR RECREATION COUNCIL PARTNERS. WE WORK WITH THEM TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS SAFETY OF RECREATION PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS AS WELL AS OVERALL COUNTY RESIDENTS, AN EXAMPLE AND THAT WOULD BE WE'VE WORKED WITH AND PARTNERED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND WILL CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THEM OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS TO PUT, UM WHAT I WILL CALL PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE A D S. AT COUNTY PARK SITES SO THAT IF THERE IS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AT A PARK SITE, YOU WOULD CALL 911 . THE DISPATCHER WILL GIVE YOU THE CODE AS TWO. YOU WOULD PUT INTO THE LOCK BOX AND THAT THEN GIVES THAT INDIVIDUAL ACCESS TO THE E D INSIDE THE BOX, AND THEY CAN THEN TAKE THAT TO HELP ADDRESS THE MEDICAL EMERGENCY SITUATION UNTIL E. M. T S ARE ARE ABLE TO ARRIVE. WE ALSO INCORPORATE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION PRACTICES WITHIN ALL OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES AND INCORPORATE TECHNOLOGY AS PART OF OUR PARK SITES AND FACILITY EXPERIENCES. UM BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO SHANE, I JUST WANTED TO HIT A FEW ITEMS WITH REGARDS TO, UM OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS A DEPARTMENT SINCE THE 2018 PLAN. UM THE MOM PART CONNECTOR TRAIL. WE'VE COMPLETED SEGMENTS ONE AND TWO.

WE'RE ACTUALLY HOPING THAT WE GOT WORD EARLIER THIS WEEK FROM STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION WITH REGARDS TO SEGMENT THREE. SO WE'RE MOVING INTO THE NEXT STEP WITH REGARD TO THAT PROJECT AND LOOK TO HAVE IT OUT TO BID LATER. THIS YEAR WE DEVELOPED EMILY BAYLESS GRAND PARK, A PASSIVE PARK SITE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. THAT INCLUDES ONE POINT 9,000,001 0.9 MILES OF WALKING TRAILS, A SENSORY TRAIL AS WELL AS RELATED PARKING. WE WORKED WITH PARTNERS WITH A MIRACLE LEAGUE TO CREATE AMERICAN LEAGUE BASEBALL DIAMOND OVER AT CHUCK'S WORD PARK, AS WELL AS WE INSTALLED A CENTURY TRAIL THERE AS WELL. WE'VE DONE THEMED PLAYGROUNDS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY INCLUDED ALFRED B. HILTON PARK. UH FOX MEADOWS AND, UH, THE CHURCHVILLE GLENVILLE PROPERTY. WE COMPLETED A FEASIBILITY STUDY AS WELL AS

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STARTED TO DEVELOP THE DEER CREEK WATERSHED TRAIL. UM WE CONTINUED WITH OUR SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD REPLACEMENTS PROJECTS . WE WORKED WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ON WATERSHED PROTECTION AND RESTORATION, INCLUDING A PERVIOUS PARKING AREA AT THE ANITA SEE LIGHT ESTUARY CENTER. WE'VE DONE LED LIGHTING UPGRADES AT THE EMERTON RECKON TENNIS CENTER. AND WHILE IT'S NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION AND WILL BE PART OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE 2027 PLAN, WE RECENTLY COMPLETED LED UPGRADES TO THE PARKING LOT LIGHTS AT CEDAR LANE PARK. I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE OUTDOOR 80 UNITS AT SEVEN COUNTY PARK SITES CURRENTLY, UM WE'VE MOVED OUR REGISTRATION OF OUR DEPARTMENT PROGRAMS COMPLETELY ONLINE. AS WELL AS WE'RE MOVING OUR PAVILION RESERVATIONS TO THE ONLINE SYSTEM. UM KUDOS GOES OUT. KUDOS DEFINITELY GO OUT TO OUR DEPARTMENT STAFF ON THE RECREATION SIDE IN PARTICULAR DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC, THEY DEVELOPED A PROGRAM CALLED AT HOME WITH PARKS AND RECREATION THAT WE USE TO ENCOURAGE ITS VIDEO LIBRARY. BASICALLY THINK OF IT AS YOUTUBE WHERE WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO STAY ACTIVE AND HEALTHY. DURING THAT TIME, WE ACTUALLY WON A NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AWARD. FOR THAT PROGRAM. WE DEVELOPED A DEPARTMENT FACEBOOK PAGE THAT IS IMPROVED ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES. I WILL USE, UM IN IN MAY OF THIS YEAR WE HAD OVER FACEBOOK USES WHAT THEY CALL REACH, WHICH IS IF YOU SEE A POST AND YOU SHARE IT. IT'S HOW MANY OTHER ACCOUNTS, THEN ULTIMATELY SEE WHAT YOU'VE YOU KNOW, THEN THEY SHARE IT ULTIMATELY. WHAT IS SEEN BY THOSE ON FACEBOOK IN MAY OF THIS YEAR MAY HAVE 2023 WE HAD OVER 250,000 REACH IN TERMS OF THE SHARES THAT OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION FACEBOOK PAGE. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO SHANE TO DISCUSS THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE PRESERVATION PORTION. THANK YOU, MR MAGNUS. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH MR MAGNUS ASKED ME TO BE HERE, HE SAID HE NEEDED A PRETTY FACE TO SELL THIS. SO THAT'S THAT'S NATURALLY WHY I'M HERE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TO SHAVE EITHER. WHAT'S THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO SHAVE YOU. THAT'S RIGHT. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND CERTAINLY DURING THE HARTFORD NEXT PLANNING PROCESS. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION TO COME UP WITH GOALS AND POLICIES THAT WOULD THEN INFLUENCE DEPARTMENT PARKS AND RECREATION GOALS AND POLICIES WHICH GO INTO THEIR LP PRP, SO WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TWO PLANS ARE IN LINE IN A LINE NOW. HARTFORD NEXT. WHEN WE DID THAT, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE FOLDED A LOT OF PLANS INTO ONE PLAN. UNFORTUNATELY LP PRP BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS . IT HAS TO BE A SEPARATE PLAN, BUT IT IS PART OF THE SUITE OF PLANS THAT ARE COVERED UNDER HARTFORD NEXT AND IS INFLUENCED BY HARTFORD. NEXT SO THE GOALS THAT MR MAGNUS AND HIS STAFF HAVE PULLED OUT ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE THAT ARE FOUND IN HARTFORD NEXT UNDER OUR NATURAL RESOURCE DISTRICT SECTION.

SPECIFICALLY WITH, UH, STRENGTHENING OUR COMMITMENT TO PRESERVING NATURAL RESOURCES, AND CERTAINLY THINGS LIKE THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THAT WE DID. PREVIOUSLY THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WILL HELP TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION MAKING IN PARKS AND RECREATION AS WELL AS PLANNING AND ZONING AND CERTAINLY WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO PRESERVING SENSITIVE RESOURCES. AND ALSO IMPROVING THOSE RESOURCES GOES HAND TO HAND WITH OUR PROGRAM TO USE DEVELOPER FUNDS TO PLANT PROPERTIES, AND WE WORKED WITH PARKS AND RECREATION ON THINGS LIKE THAT, AND CERTAINLY IF YOU RECALL THIS YEAR WE WERE AT SHUCKS RED REGIONAL PARK BY THE MIRACLE LEAGUE FIELD PLANTING THERE, SO WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THEM TO DO THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE UPON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND ALSO WORKED TO CHECK OFF THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IN HARTFORD NEXT AS WELL AS IN THE LP, PRP AND SECONDARY TO THAT ALSO HAS A CHAPTER ON LAND PRESERVATION AND OBVIOUSLY, LAND PRESERVATION IS VERY IMPORTANT IN HARFORD COUNTY , AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT THROUGH THE EFFORTS, UH PREVIOUS COUNTY ADMINISTRATIONS, THIS ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS OUR AGRICULTURAL PRESERVATION COORDINATOR AND STAFF. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PRESERVE 62,500 ACRES OF FARMLAND IN THIS COUNTY THROUGH VARIOUS PROGRAMS, AND WE ARE CONTINUING THOSE EFFORTS IN THE COMING MONTHS. YOU WILL SEE SPECIFICALLY AS YOU MOVE INTO THE FALL SESSION, YOU WILL SEE MORE FARMS COME IN FRONT OF YOU FOR APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO INCREASE THOSE NUMBERS TO MEET THE GOAL OF 75,000 ACRES THAT WAS PUT IN HARTFORD NEXT AS AN ULTIMATE GOAL FOR US TO GET TO. SO WE'RE CLOSING IN ON THAT. AND EACH YEAR I THINK IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WE'RE PRESERVING APPROXIMATELY ON AVERAGE OF THE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT 2000 ACRES A YEAR, SO WE WILL DEFINITELY MEET THAT GOAL IN THE COMING YEARS. AND OF COURSE, WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF PARKS AND RECREATION IN OUR EFFORTS WITH LAND PRESERVATION AND

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ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL WHEN WE BRING AG PRESERVATION PARCELS OVER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL , SO JUST TO WRAP UP FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, LIKE WE DO TO ENSURE THAT OUR PLANS ARE CONSISTENT AND THAT WE WERE HELPING THEM TO MEET THEIR GOALS, AND THEY'RE PLAYING AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR GRIMM. UM GENTLEMEN, ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. JUST I KNOW I MENTIONED IT THE OTHER DAY AND HE'S PLAYGROUND. YOU GUYS DID A FANTASTIC JOB ON, UM, THE NEW PLAYGROUND UP, UPGRADING IT IN THE OTHER FACILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR EXPERTISE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN, MR GUTHRIE. UH, I PROMISE NOT TO GOVERN MY WHOLE BUCKET RISK OKAY? YESTERDAY. WELL THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS UP. SURE I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING EFFORT. ALL YOU GUYS DID WITH MARY POINT PARK WHEN YOU BROUGHT ALL YOUR PEOPLE OF REAL FIRST. PEOPLE. GOOD JOB DOWN WHERE I LIVE. UM VERY GRATEFUL. GOES COMMENT. LONG WALK OR THERE ARE EVERY WEEKEND AND REALLY LOOK GREAT.

SO WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT, UM MENTIONED PICKLEBALL. A COUPLE OF TIMES, UM, WENT THROUGH MY TWO CENTS IN YOU KNOW , WE HAD, UH YOU KNOW, OUR SENIORS IS THAT ALL FOR ON OUR SENIORS IN EDGEWOOD ARE STILL COMPLAINING. SO ON DID LAST NIGHT AT A COMMUNITY MEETING TO ME ONE ON ONE AFTER THE MEETING ABOUT THE PICKLE BALL THAT WE HAD AN EDGEWOOD AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE IT NOW, BECAUSE I THINK WE LOST THE TRAINER. WE LOST THE PERSON WHO WAS UH, PUTTING IT PUTTING IT ON WHATEVER I JUST WONDERED, DO WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ABOUT TRYING TO GET THE PICKLEBALL RESTORED? IN EDGEWOOD. WELL IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT THERE. IT'S WE CHANGED , BUT WE DON'T HAVE CHANGED THE WAY THAT WE THAT WE RUN THE PROGRAM, WHEREAS PREVIOUSLY WE WERE BASICALLY RUNNING THE PROGRAM MONEY. WHEN YOU REGISTERED FOR IT, IT WAS FOR FOUR DAYS AND SOME PEOPLE SHOWED UP SOME DAYS AND SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW UP OTHER DAYS, BUT WE CHANGED ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING IS WE LOOKED AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO REGISTER. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MONDAY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE EACH DAY. UM AND WHAT WE FOUND FROM THAT IS ACTUALLY WE'VE HAD A GREATER LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION OVERALL IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T NECESSARILY YOU KNOW WHO WOULD LOOK AND SAY, WELL, I CAN'T MAKE TWO OF THE DAY, SO I'M NOT GOING TO REGISTER NOW THEY'RE SAYING OH, OKAY. I CAN PICK THE TWO DAYS THAT I THAT I'M GOING TO BE THERE. SO WE DO OFFER IT. UM IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THAN WHAT OFFICE ON AGING OFFERED IT WHEN THEY HAD THAT PROGRAM IN OUR WORKING IN OUR YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR AT OUR LOCATION IN EDGEWOOD, BUT I CAN ALSO TELL YOU IN GENERAL, UM, THAT THE PICKLEBALL CROWD IN HARFORD COUNTY LIKES TO TRAVEL BECAUSE WE HAVE FOLKS WHO PLAY AT ONE LOCATION ON MONDAY AND A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON TUESDAY AND A THIRD LOCATION ON WEDNESDAY. I MEAN, THEY WILL GO WHERE PICKLEBALL IS AVAILABLE.

TRAVELERS. THERE YOU GO. OKAY ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING OVER THERE A COUPLE OF DAYS AND CHECK THEM OUT AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND. UM CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THE ON THE LONG BAR HARBOR EQUIPMENT THAT THE EQUIPMENT DOWN THERE JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S NOTIFICATION DOWN AT THE LONG BAR HARBOR WHERE WE HAVE THE KIDS, UM, ENTERTAINMENT AND UM, SWINGS ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE HAD THIS CRAZY THING GOING ON WHERE THE BOLTS KEPT BREAKING IN THE EQUIPMENT. AND NOBODY KNEW WHY WE KEPT LOOKING FOR SPACESHIPS THAT ARE COMING DOWN OR WHATEVER WAS CAUSING IT , BUT THEY SENT OVER THERE AND REPAIRED ALL THE EQUIPMENT. PUT ALL NEW BOLTS ON IT, AND THEY ALL BROKE AGAIN. CORRECT A NUMBER OF THEM DID NUMBER OF NUMBER OF LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY THERE. UM WE REPLACED THAT WE'VE THAT PLAYGROUND WE PUT IN PLACE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. UM OTHER THAN ROUTINE MAINTENANCE DID NOT EXPERIENCE ANY ISSUES UNTIL THIS , UH, THIS JANUARY WHEN OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF WENT OUT TO DO THEIR ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OF THE PLAYGROUND BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SPRING SEASON, AND THEY FOUND THAT A NUMBER OF THE BOLTS HAD ACTUALLY BROKEN. UM AND WE WEREN'T WE WERE NOT SURE WHY. SO WE WORKED WITH THE PLAYGROUND MANUFACTURER AND INSTALLER.

INITIALLY THEY THOUGHT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BAD BATCH OF BOLTS. UM, SO THEY CAME IN AND REPLACED THE BOLTS. UM THEY STILL WE STILL EXPERIENCED SOME OF THE BOLTS BREAKING AGAIN. SO WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH IS ACTUALLY WE HAVE ONE OF OUR ON CALL ENGINEERS. THEY WERE ACTUALLY OUT THERE TODAY AND WE'LL BE BACK OUT AGAIN. I BELIEVE ON FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK, DOING SOME SURVEY WORK. TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE A SHIFTING. THAT'S SOME UNEVEN, UNEVEN

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SHIFTING THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING IN THE GROUND ITSELF. UM AS A POTENTIAL CAUSE OF THAT SITUATION, BUT WE ARE AGAIN JUST AS ANXIOUS AS THE COMMUNITY IS TO GET THAT PLAYGROUND BACK TO WHERE IT IS SAFE FOR USE. UM AND I WILL PERSONALLY TELL YOU AS THE FATHER OF A FOUR YEAR OLD. I USED THE GAUGE OF WHAT I LET MY SON BEN PLAY ON THAT PLAYGROUND. AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO THEN I DON'T FEEL RIGHT, LETTING ANYBODY ELSE LET THEIR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN PLAY ON THE PLAYGROUND. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A DETERMINATION. PEOPLE CALL ME AS AND WHEN IS IT GOING TO OPEN BACK UP? AND I SAID, WELL, THEY'RE KIND OF WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO THINGS.

YOU JUST TOLD ME SO THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE WHAT WE THINK THE ROOT CAUSES BEFORE. WE KNOW WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS WILL BE, BUT WE ARE ANXIOUS TO GET IT OPEN AND SAFELY OPEN AS SOON AS WE CAN. OKAY. ONE LAST ONE FOR TODAY. SURE UM, THE L E D LIGHTS BECAUSE THEY TOOK TERRY UP TO COPE. AVERY PARKER. I TALKED TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OF THERE. ALSO IN THE HALF THE LIGHTS ARE OUT OF THE FLOODLIGHTS ON THE FIELD, AND THEY CAN'T REPLACE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE OLD AND SO KIND OF EXECUTIVE SAID IN TERRY ALSO, BUT WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE ALL THE LIGHTS TO LED S. DO WE KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT? WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT AND SEE. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THAT IS AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT. OKAY GENERAL AGAIN AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER ADVANTAGES PARTICULARLY FROM A FIELD LIGHT STANDPOINT WITH LED BETWEEN THE LED LIGHTS AND THE WAY THAT WHAT THE NIGHT SKIES INITIATIVE. UM AND IF ANY OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO DRIVE BY CEDAR LANE PARK AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT IS A SITE NOW THAT HAS THE LED LIGHTS. THEY'RE THEY ARE NIGHT SKY INITIATIVE. AND BASICALLY IF YOU ARE ABOUT 15 FT OFF OF THE FIELD, YOU'RE IN THE DARK. THE WAY THOSE LIGHTS ARE DIRECTION. THE WAY THE DIRECTIONAL UH, EFFECT OF THOSE LIGHTS ARE WE APPRECIATE IT GETTING DOWN SOON AS WE CAN GET READY FOR THE FALL STUFF. VERY GOOD. OH, IT THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MR GINGER DANNON. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM PROBABLY NOT A QUESTION THAT PERTAINS TO THIS, BUT IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY, UM PERMANENT. FACILITIES AT CEDAR LANE PARK FOR BATHROOM. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DISCUSSING WITH THEM IN TERMS OF A LONG TERM. DISCUSSING WITH WHO? CEDAR LANE SPORTS FOUNDATION BECAUSE WE WORK WITH THEM. WE WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM IN TERMS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. OKAY, SO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR JAN. DRAWDOWN ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR PRESIDENT. UM BUT I WANT TO ECHO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HEARD HERE THIS EVENING. UM THE CITIZENS ABSOLUTELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE THE SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE. IT ADDS GREATLY TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN THE COUNTY.

APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOUR STAFF YOUR WHOLE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND WILL BE TAKEN UP AT A FUTURE MEETING.

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

WE'RE GOING TO ROLL RIGHT INTO OUR GENERAL MEETING IF WE CAN I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER OR LEGISLATIVE SESSION DAY 23-0 19 , I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE PLEDGE, FOLLOWED BY THE OPENING PRAYER BY COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE. I PLEDGE TO LEAVE FLAG. STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION. THEN GO TO JUSTICE FOR ALL. AS WE BOW OUR HEADS.

UH, WE WANT TO HONOR THIS D DAY. THIS IS THE ANNIVERSARY ALL THE WAY BACK IN THE FORTIES. HAD A GRANDFATHER UNLESS SHE'S MY STEPFATHER, WHO WAS IN THAT WAR AND LATER THAN ANZIO, AND, UM, YOU KNOW A LOT OF GOOD STORIES FROM HERE OVER THE YEARS, BUT ANYWAY, I LIKE TO HAPPEN. GIVE THIS BEAR OUT TO ALL OUR SERVICE PEOPLE. LORD, WE ASK YOUR BLESSING. FOR OUR SOLDIERS OVERSEAS. AND PROUDLY SERVE OUR NATION WHO PROUDLY SERVE OUR NATION. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS PERIOD OF SERVICE, WHICH THEY GAVE AS THIS COULD BE THE BEST YEARS OF THEIR LIVES. WE EXTEND THANKS FOR THE FRIENDS THAT HAVE GAINED DURING THIS LIFETIME, AND THEY ASK FOR THE STRENGTH TO TEMPORARY. MORNING MORNINGS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED ON WHILE CELEBRATING THEIR LIVES, WHICH MIGHT TOUCHING OURS. HAVE ENRICHED BUT AS FAR MORE THAN MATERIAL WEALTH WE WILL RECALL PLEASANT MEMORIES OF THOSE SERVING KNOWING OR SERVING THE MILITARY FORCES. SERVED TO NONE.

SECOND TO NONE. LORD. HOW BLESSED WE ARE FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR U. S. MILITARY

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GUARD RESERVE AND REGULAR ALL VOLUNTEERS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN THEIR NATION TO FIGHT A PHOTO THAT CLOAKS MURDERER'S ACTIONS UNDER THE DISGUISE OF REALLY RELIGIOUS ACTS. LORD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ALL THOSE SERVE HER AND BRING OUR TROOPS HOME SAFE AND SOUND AND SOON THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. MAN. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. UH COUNCIL. IF I MAY. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO RECOGNIZE MARYLAND STATE COMPTROLLER. MR CHAIRMAN IS IN THE CHAMBERS WITH

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US THIS EVENING, MISS LETTERMAN. UH IF COUNSEL HAS NO OBJECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AGENDA.

NUMBER SIX. CHAIRMAN CAN MOVE ON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE. IT'S VERY EXCITING. IT'S BEAUTIFUL CHAMBERS. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO JUMP THE LINE A LITTLE BIT. I APPRECIATE IT. UM AS YOU SAID, I'M BROOKE LIERMAN. I'M THE 30/4 , CONTROLLER OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND, ELECTED IN NOVEMBER. SWORN IN ON JANUARY 16TH. I'VE BEEN A WONDERFUL DAY IN BEL AIR, TOURING BUSINESSES MEETING WITH YOUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE MEETING WITH OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS, UM AND CERTAINLY THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN SPENT A GREAT AMOUNT OF TIME IN HARTFORD COUNTY. UM I LIVE IN BALTIMORE CITY WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO SMALL CHILDREN BY TRAINING. I'M A DISABILITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY. I WAS A LEGISLATOR REPRESENTING PART OF BALTIMORE CITY, SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST BALTIMORE FOR EIGHT YEARS. SERVING ON THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, CHAIRING THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON PENSIONS AND FOUNDER OF THE TRANSIT CAUCUS TO HELP PROMOTE ADDITIONAL TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, INCLUDING UP, OF COURSE THROUGH HARFORD COUNTY. UM SO I'M HERE TONIGHT. UM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. JUST TALK WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER. UM WE ARE VERY FOCUSED IN MY ADMINISTRATION ON BUILDING PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR LOCAL LEADERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS ACROSS THE STATE OF MARYLAND. UM FOR THAT REASON WE HAVE CREATED A NEW POSITION OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR IN OUR AGENCY, AND I'M SO DELIGHTED TO HAVE EACH SHUMAN WITH ME WHO IS OUR FIRST THE AGENCY'S FIRST EVER I G DIRECTOR SO SHE CAN BE A POINT OF CONTACT. OF COURSE YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME, BUT YOU'RE ALSO WELCOME TO ALWAYS REACH OUT TO EAT WITH ANY QUESTIONS WHETHER IT'S ABOUT REVENUE ESTIMATES OR CONSTITUENT SERVICES OR TAX REFUNDS, NOT COMING FAST ENOUGH. UM AUDIT ISSUES. YOU CAN REACH OUT TO EVE AND SHE CAN HELP. MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON AND ARE 1100 PERSON AGENCY, THE RIGHT PERSON WHO CAN HELP YOU AND HELP YOUR CONSTITUENTS. UM SO THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER IN MARYLAND IS A VERY UNIQUE OFFICE IN AMERICA, ACTUALLY, UM , WE I AM THE ONLY STATEWIDE FINANCIAL OFFICER WHO HAS THE DUTIES THAT I HAVE, UM NO OTHER STATE COMPTROLLER. STATE TREASURE. UM ALSO HAS THE OTHER PERSON'S DUTIES AND ALSO DOES REVENUE ADMINISTRATION SO IT'S REALLY INTERESTING. UM IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING POSITION. I'M THRILLED TO BE IN IT. UM SO THREE THINGS JUST TO KEEP YOU IN MIND ABOUT THE FUNCTION OF THE AGENCY, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE COMPTROLLER OF MARYLAND IS THE ELECTED CFO OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT THE COMPTROLLER OF MARYLAND HAS OVERSEES THE GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT OF THE FISCAL AFFAIRS OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND . THAT'S A FAIRLY BROAD MANDATE . UM AND MEANS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE TODAY AFFECT US, BUT HOW IS THE FISCAL DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY AFFECT OUR KIDS? UM, AND AFFECT OUR GRANDKIDS AND REALLY SETTING OUR STATE UP FOR SUCCESS , NOT JUST FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, BUT FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS TO COME. SO THAT'S FIRST AND FOREMOST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM FOCUSED ON, UM EVERY DOLLAR IN AND EVERY DOLLAR OUT OF THE STATE OF MARYLAND GOES THROUGH OUR OFFICE THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT AND THE GOVERNMENT.

SECOND, OF COURSE, WITH CONTROLLER AND THE MEMBER OF A NUMBER OF BOARDS. UM IF YOU CAN , UM, YOU KNOW YOU'VE HEARD OF ALPHABET SOUP EVERY SO MANY DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF LETTERS, SO MANY DIFFERENT BOARDS AND GOVERNMENT STATE GOVERNMENTS. THE TWO. OF COURSE , THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY MOST FAMILIAR WITH ARE THE BOARD OF PUBLIC WORKS. THE GOVERNOR OF THE TREASURER, AND I SIT ON THAT BOARD EVERY OTHER WEDNESDAY MORNING AT 10 A.M. YOU CAN WATCH US TOMORROW ON YOUTUBE. APPROVING OR DENYING, UM, UH, MONEY FOR OUR PROGRAM, OPEN SPACE DOLLARS, WHICH, OF COURSE , HELPED FUND THE PARKS THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT, UM, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS STATE HIGHWAY PROJECTS. MARK AND M TO SERVICES THAT I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO MARK STATIONS HERE IN THE COUNTY AND SO A HUGE ARRAY OF, UM OF CONTRACTS, AND THEN THERE'S THE STATE RETIREMENT AND PENSION SYSTEM BOARD. I'M THE

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VICE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD. WE HAVE 415,000 STATE EMPLOYEES AND RETIREES WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE SYSTEM. WE OVERSEE $65 BILLION IN ASSETS. AND I'M SO PLEASED TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM HARFORD COUNTY. UM, ON THAT BOARD WITH ME. UM THIRD. THE THIRD FUNCTION OF THE CONTROLLER IS ONE THAT MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, AND THAT IS THAT I SERVE AS THE REVENUE ADMINISTRATOR. UM WHICH IS A NICER WAY OF SAYING TAX COLLECTOR HAVE ADOPTED THAT TERMINOLOGY. UM, AND OF COURSE, THERE WE PROCESSED. LAST YEAR WE PROCESSED 3 MILLION TAX RETURNS , THOUSANDS OF SALES, TAX PAYMENTS AND A VARIETY OF OTHER TAXES, INCLUDING MOST OF YOUR LOCAL TAXES. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 11 FIELD OFFICES AROUND THE STATES. UM, AND RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE HOLES THAT WE IDENTIFIED REALLY IS HARFORD COUNTY. UM SO IN OUR PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR 11 STATEWIDE OFFICES, UM , WE ARE LOOKING. UM REALLY? HARFORD COUNTY IS THE FIRST ON OUR LIST WHERE WE'D LIKE TO EXPAND TO UM, SO IT IS MY HOPE THAT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF OR SO WE WILL BE OPENING AN OFFICE IN HARFORD COUNTY. UM, AND IT'S A GREAT IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU KNOW, TAXPAYER SERVICES DIVISION HERE WHO CAN HELP YOUR CONSTITUENTS EVERY DAY. THIS YEAR DURING TAX SEASON WE HAD, UM, WE BROUGHT IN. EIGHT ARE WE RECEIVED 800 EMAILS, 2500 PHONE CALLS AND SCHEDULED 250 IN PERSON VISITS THROUGH OUR 11 OFFICES, SO JUST A PHENOMENAL AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THE AGENCY HAS TO DO TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH. SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF THE JOB AND SOME OF OUR CORE PRIORITIES THAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU BRIEFLY, UM, SORT OF GO AROUND THREE DIFFERENT, UH, THREE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. FIRST IS WE ARE FOCUSED ON IMPLEMENTING CRITICAL AGENCY WIDE IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP MAKE GOVERNMENT WORK BETTER AT THE END OF THE DAY. THAT IS REALLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT FOR ME IS MAKING SURE THAT GOVERNMENT IS WORKING WELL, SO IT'S REMOVING BARRIERS TO SUCCESS IN CREATING OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR MARYLANDERS.

UM THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON BUILDING A GREAT TEAM. WE'VE REORGANIZED. THE LEADERSHIP STRUCTURE IN THE OFFICE BROUGHT A NEW LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE AGENCY, INCLUDING NOT ONLY OUR FIRST DIRECTOR, BUT ARE THE AGENCY'S FIRST EVER CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER. C. I O AND PART OF THE REASON WE DESPERATELY NEEDED A C I O IS BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO BUILDING THE TEAM, WE'VE GOT TO BUILD THE TOOLS, UM THE TECHNOLOGY AND OUR AGENCY IS HOPELESSLY OUTDATED.

UM WE HAVE THE OLDEST STATE ACCOUNTING SYSTEM IN THE NATION RIGHT NOW IN MARYLAND. WE HAVE A TAX PROCESSING SYSTEM THAT RUNS ON KOBOL, UM AND OUR EMPLOYEES SIT BEHIND GREEN SCREEN COMPUTERS. UM SO THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF WORK TO DO. OUR WEBSITE IS ALSO A STATIC WEBSITE . YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEVER BUILD TO KEEP UP WITH THE 800 YOU KNOW, PHONE CALLS AND 252,500 PHONE CALLS AND 800 EMAILS AND SO WE HAVE TO BUILD A BETTER WEBSITE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HELP THEMSELVES. UM SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON, IS MODERNIZING THE AGENCY SO IT CAN WORK BETTER FOR MARYLANDERS. SECOND WE ARE FOCUSED ON ENSURING THAT THE RESOURCES AND EXPERTISE OF THE OFFICE CREATE OPPORTUNITY FOR AND OPPORTUNITY FOR AND MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON MARYLAND FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES AND BUSINESSES, SO THAT MEANS USING TECHNOLOGY TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND ON STATE SPENDING AND THE STATE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. GOOD PAYMENTS TO STATE VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS, ENSURING THAT THE OFFICE IS USING DATA TO DRIVE DECISION MAKING AND THEN USING THAT DATA TO CREATE REPORTS THAT INFORMED POLICY DECISIONS AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO YOU AS WELL. UM, SO ONE OF THE FIRST REPORTS WILL BE CREATING AS A STATE OF THE ECONOMY REPORT THAT WILL GET TO YOU IN THIS DURING THE FALL SO THAT YOU CAN SEE SORT OF HOW HARFORD COUNTY STACKS UP TO THE STATE AND NOW THE STATE IS STACKING UP VERSUS OUR OUR NEIGHBORS WERE ALSO FOCUSED ON ENGAGING IN ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. TO CONNECT FAMILIES , COMMUNITIES, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND BUSINESSES ACROSS MARYLAND WITH SERVICES LIKE FILING TAXES, ACCESSING STATE TAX CREDITS OBTAINING LEGAL GUIDANCE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MARYLAND HAS NEVER DONE THAT OTHER TAX AGENCIES DO AROUND THE STATE. PROVIDE FREE BUSINESS LEGAL ADVICE. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS OWNER, AND MAYBE YOU HAVE A TAX LAWYER, MAYBE YOU CAN'T AFFORD ONE. BUT YOU ARE WONDERING HOW THIS YOU HAVE THIS UNIQUE SITUATION FACT SITUATION AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW , UM THE TAX LAW AFFECTS YOUR FACTS SITUATION AFTER WE HAVE LOT FULLY LAUNCHED OUR LEGAL DIVISION, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WRITE TO THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER AND GET A BINDING LEGAL DECISION CALLED A PRIVATE LETTER RULING. ON THAT FACT SCENARIO THAT YOU CAN THEN RELY ON THAT'S SO IMPORTANT AS A BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT THAT TAX ADVICE THAT YOU CAN RELY ON SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE PAYING WHAT'S OWED. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING AUDITED. EVER. UM, DOWN THE LINE? UM AND THEN, FINALLY

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WE'RE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT MARYLAND IS WELL POSITIONED FOR RESPONSIBLE LONG TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SUCCESS. SO JUST A COUPLE YOU KNOW POINTS AND THAT IS WE'RE FOCUSED ON MODERNIZING AND SIMPLIFYING MARYLAND'S TAX COLLECTION PROCESS, UM, CLOSING THE TAX GAP SO THAT THOSE WITH COMPLEX ASSETS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ENHANCING EQUITY AND TAX ADMINISTRATION BY ANA ANALYZING DATA ON AUDITS AND THE UPTAKE OF VARIOUS TAX CREDITS. WE KNOW THAT THERE'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MARYLANDERS WHO QUALIFY FOR THE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT WHO AREN'T CLAIMING IT, AND THAT'S THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT COULD BE GOING TO THOSE FAMILIES TO HELP THEM PAY FOR SUMMER CAMP TO HELP BUY A NEW CAR TO GET TO THE YOU KNOW THEIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE CLASSES IN I RECENTLY MET A WOMAN WHO DID JUST THAT. SHE GOT THE EITC AFTER FINDING OUT THAT SHE QUALIFIED FOR IT. I BOUGHT A CAR WENT TO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND GOT CLASSES, AND NOW SHE MAKES SO MUCH. SHE DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR THE EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT, WHICH IS THE GOAL RIGHT TO HELP BUILD PROSPERITY IN THE STATE. SO WE'RE ALSO FOCUSED ON EVALUATING CLIMATE IMPACT AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR STATE SPENDING. SO WHEN YOU BUILD A NEW SCHOOL, RIGHT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BUILDING IT IN A FLOODPLAIN BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY POOR USE OF OUR STATE TAX DOLLARS IF WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MITIGATE ALL THE FLOODING AND THE WATER THAT IT'S TAKING IN, UM AND WE HAVE TO ALSO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT OUR INVESTMENTS ARE WISE AS WELL. UM SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER, UM, AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO COME BY TO SHARE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU. THIS I HOPE IS THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION. AND AT THE END, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE ALWAYS HERE FOR YOU TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. UM, AND WE REALLY DO LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO BUILD A BETTER MARYLAND. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU FOR STOPPING BY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. EVEN I WISH WE HAD YOUR NUMBER. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE HAD 1000 OF QUESTIONS THAT WE COULD HAVE SENT TO YOU. AH DURING OUR BUDGET WORK SESSIONS, SO I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS, SO I'M GOING TO JUST OPEN IT UP TO THEM. MR PEMON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO START COMPTROLLER LIGAMENT THAT WELCOME THE HARFORD COUNTY AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IVE WELCOME AS WELL. UM THIS IS MY FIRST TERM, AND THIS IS MY FIRST BUDGETS. AND SO I'M JUMPING IN THE DEEP END AND JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. OUR TREASURER ROBBIE SANDERS IS HERE AS WELL. AND HE'S YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE WAS TRYING TO BEST YOU CAN TRY TO PROVIDE US WITH UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GOING ON. SO BUT THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR QUESTION SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, AND IT REALLY KIND OF RELATES TO THE LOCAL RESERVE ALLOCATION. UM IF YOU LOOK AT THE INCOME TAXES COMING IN, THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT THAT'S KEPT FOR THE LOCAL RESERVE. SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE FORMULA FOR THE PORTION THAT IS KEPT? WITH THE CONTOURS OFFICE FOR THE ALLOCATION. SURE SO WE PAY OUT THE LOCAL SHARING AN ESTIMATED FASHION. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF HARFORD COUNTY WAS 5% OF ALL TAX COLLECTIONS IN THE LAST FULL TAX YEAR, THEN YOU GET 5% SO IT'S ALL ALLOCATED. ALL OF OUR ALLOCATIONS ARE BASED ON THE PAST COMPLETED TAX HERE. SO I'M NOT. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM SO EACH LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, UM, LAST YEAR WE ROUGHLY RECEIVED 330 MILLION IN INCOME TAX AND WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED PROBABLY BACK INITIALLY. 299 MILLION ROUGHLY OF THAT 31 MILLION THAT WAS KEPT IN THE ALLOCATION. HOW WHEN IS THAT DISPERSED BACK TO THE COUNTY OR HOW WAS IT DISPERSED BACK TO THE COUNTY? IS THERE A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR THAT DISPERSED SO THE FIRST THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT YOU ALWAYS GET ALL OF YOUR MONEY. YOU ALWAYS GET ALL OF THE MONEY THAT'S OWED TO YOU. WHEN WE GET MONEY. SO HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS IS WHEN WE GET MONEY. WE GET IT FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOURCES, BUT MOST OF IT IS FROM WITHHOLDING AND ESTIMATED TAX RETURNS, RIGHT SO HOW WE TAKING THAT MONEY IS WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO ATTRIBUTE IT. UM BUT WE WANT TO NOT WAIT TO GIVE IT TO YOU BECAUSE WE DO DISTRIBUTIONS QUARTERLY, SO I FIND IT HELPFUL TO THINK OF THIS IN A VERY GRANULAR LEVEL. UM SO, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S UM THINK FOUR SHOP WRITES IN HARFORD COUNTY. BUT THEN THERE'S YOU KNOW, FIVE ELSEWHERE AROUND THE STATE. WELL UM EVERY WEEK OR MONTH OR I THINK IT'S EVERY WEEK. SHOPRITE SENDS ALL OF THE TAXES THAT THEY WITHHELD FROM ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, RIGHT. THEY REMIT ALL OF THAT MONEY TO US. WE HAVE NO IDEA AT THAT POINT WHO THAT MONEY WAS EARNED BY OR WHAT COUNTIES THEY LIVE IN, RIGHT? SO IT COULD BE THAT SARAH SMITH, WHO IS AN EMPLOYEE AT THE BEL AIR RIGHT OR FOREST HILLS SHOP, RIGHT? UM IS A PIECE OF THAT. BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET

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BECAUSE IT ALL COMES INTO US, AND THERE'S JUST NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW THAT. UM SO WE TAKE IN ALL OF THAT MONEY AND THEN QUARTERLY WE DISTRIBUTE TO YOU BEFORE WE KNOW WHERE IT SHOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO BEFORE. WE KNOW WHERE SARAH SMITH LIVES, RIGHT? WE ARE GIVING YOU HER.

WITHHOLDING MONEY BECAUSE WE GIVE IT TO A QUARTERLY. WE HOLD BACK A SMALL PIECE OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE EVERYBODY LIVES YET OR WHERE TO ALLOCATE IT. WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THEY FILE THEIR TAX RETURNS. RIGHT AND THEN WE KNOW. OH SARAH SMITH LIVES IN HARTFORD COUNTY.

LIKE WE'RE ALL SET. WE SENT THAT OUT, OR WE HELD BACK A LITTLE BIT. NOW IT CAN GO TO HARFORD COUNTY NEXT YEAR, IT TURNS OUT SARAH SMITH. HAS MOVED TO BALTIMORE COUNTY. WELL WE SENT THAT MONEY TO YOU OR IF WE DIDN'T WITHHOLD A LITTLE BIT, AND WE SENT TOO MUCH TO YOU.

WE'D HAVE TO TAKE SOME BACK AND THEN SEND IT TO BALTIMORE COUNTY , RIGHT, RATHER THAN HAVING TO TAKE MONEY BACK AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN WE'RE DOING THE RECONCILING, WE WITHHOLD A LITTLE BIT UPFRONT. AND THEN AT THE END, WHEN WE DO A RECONCILIATION, WE MAKE SURE IT ALL GETS OUT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT MAKES A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE THAN THAN I HAD A HANDLE ON IT BEFORE. UM BUT SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR THAT MONEY GETS DISPERSED IF THEY LIVE IN THE COUNTY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE JUST GOING OVER THE CYCLE EACH YEAR. IT'S BEEN GROWING IN THAT FUN, AND I THINK THERE WAS 100 AND 47 MILLION IN THAT FUND. AS OF THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT 147 MILLION WHILE IT KEEPS GROWING, IT'S GOING TO BE DISPERSED BACK INTO THE COUNTY INCOME TAX WILL GET ALL THE MONEY THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO YOUR TAXPAYERS. WE DON'T HOLD ANY OF IT BACK. THAT'S THE I MEAN, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE DON'T HAVE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WRITE. WE COULDN'T HOLD IT BACK EVEN IF WE WANTED TO, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO. SO YOU ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING THAT IS OWED TO YOU. AND I'M GUESSING THAT YOU GOT THAT DOLLAR FIGURE FROM THE ACT FOR, UM, UM WHICH IS JUST THAT SORT OF REQUIRED POINT IN TIME, LIKE SNAPSHOT.

THAT'S TAKEN OF THE RESERVE ACCOUNT, AND IT'S THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED THAT WE THINK WE WILL, EVENTUALLY OH TO A COUNTY AT THAT EXACT MOMENT IN TIME. UM AND SO THE NEXT DAY, THAT NUMBER COULD HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE WE HAD FIGURED OUT WHERE IT COULD GO BECAUSE MORE TAX RETURNS HAVE COME IN. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND, TOO. IS THAT NOT EVERYBODY FILES A TAX RETURN BY APRIL 15TH RIGHT PEOPLE ARE FILING TAX RETURNS ALL YEAR. AND SO WE'RE LEARNING WE MIGHT NOT HAVE LEARNED ON APRIL 15TH. THAT'S SARAH SMITH MOVED TO BUY. BALTIMORE COUNTY. WE SHE MIGHT HAVE FILED FOR AN EXTENSION SO WE DON'T LEARN UNTIL JULY. RIGHT BUT THEN WE SEE IN JULY. OH SHE MOVED TO BALTIMORE COUNTY. SO THAT GOES TO BALTIMORE. YOU KNOW, THAT PIECE GOES TO BALTIMORE COUNTY. UM AND SO THAT'S WHY ARE YOU KNOW IF WE WERE TO WAIT TO SEND YOU MONEY LIKE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE CASH FLOW THAT YOU NEED SO BECAUSE WE DO THESE QUARTERLY DISBURSEMENTS. WE HAVE TO HOLD A LITTLE BIT BACK AND THEN WE RECONCILE IT. I JUST I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT OF JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BETTER. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S FANTASTIC. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT KEEPS GROWING. SO IS IT SO THAT A PORTION OF THIS 1 47,000,147 MILLION SO WE'RE GOING TO GET A LARGE PORTION OF THAT BACK THIS NEXT YEAR? GROWING BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE TAKE IN MORE MONEY AS A STATE? SO WE HAVE TO HOLD A LITTLE. WE HOLD A LITTLE BIT MORE BACK BECAUSE I MEAN THE PERCENTAGE IS STILL RELATIVELY THE SAME THAT WE'RE HOLDING BACK. BUT OUR ECONOMY IS GROWING AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE IN TAXES EVERY YEAR, SO THE DOLLAR FIGURE IS GROWING TOO. OKAY I MAY HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS. HOPEFULLY AMERICAN REACH OUT TO EVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN. MR GUTHRIE, STEP A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM I JUST SAW REGIONAL INDUSTRY THIS REPORT AT MY COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEETING LAST NIGHT. ASSAULT FROM THIS RECENT BUDGET. UH YOU WENT THROUGH IN THIS THIS EARLIER THIS YEAR, THEY'RE JUST CLOSED. THAT HARFORD COUNTY GOT ABOUT $33,500,000. AND THEN IT WAS A LIST OF ABOUT 10. DIFFERENT PLACES. THAT 33 MILLION. DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY ARE, BUT WHAT THEY WENT TO HAVE. IS IT DETERMINED LIKE THESE 10 ITEMS THERE THAT THERE'S $33 MILLION WAS PAID OUT TO WHO MAKES THAT DETERMINATION. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? UM. THE STATE BUDGET OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? BUDGET CAPITAL BUDGET, SO THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER DOESN'T WRITE THE BUDGET THE GOVERNOR DOES AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. SO, UM WE COLLECT ALL THE MONEY. UM AND WE DO THE STATE REVENUE ESTIMATES, RIGHT? ROBBIE AND HIS TEAM ARE MR SANDERS AND HIS TEAM. THEY DO THE COUNTY REVENUE ESTIMATE. WE DO THE STATE REVENUE ESTIMATES, SO WE TELL THE STATE WHAT WE THINK THEY HAVE TO SPEND. WE

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HAVE SOMETHING CALLED THE CAPITAL DEBT AFFORDABILITY COMMITTEE, WHICH I SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE TELLS THE STATE HERE'S THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL MONEY THAT YOU CAN SPEND THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, HEAR THE BONDS, WE CAN FLOAT AND ETCETERA. UM AND THEN THE GENERAL THE GOVERNOR PUTS FORWARD A CAPITAL BUDGET IS AN OPERATING BUDGET AND CAPITAL BUDGET BEFORE THE CAPITAL BUDGET . UM AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CAN SAY WE DON'T LIKE THAT PROJECT. WE'RE GOING TO ADD THIS PROJECT OR WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THAT PROJECT OR WE'RE GOING TO CUT THAT PROJECT ENTIRELY, AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE. SO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY DOES THAT. AND THEN THEY PASS IT. YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE I THINK IT'S LIKE THE YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE WEEKS BEFORE SESSION ENDS, UM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE GOVERNOR DECIDE WHERE THE CAPITAL MONEY GOES. BUT OUR OFFICE DOES NOT GET TO DECIDE THAT. UM SO I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW THEY DECIDED THAT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU ARE PART OF THE YOU WERE PART OF THAT RIGHT? YOU HAVE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEMBERS. UM AND SO THEY PLAY A KEY ROLE IN THAT WORK, THEY DECIDE OR THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN PUT THEIR AMENDMENTS IN OR WHATEVER TO TRY TO GET THEIR PIECE OF THE ACTION. EXACTLY EXACTLY. AND YOU KNOW THAT CAN BE LOCAL BOND INITIATIVES WHERE YOU CAN GET A COUPLE $100,000 FOR A PARK OR A NON PROFIT BUILDING OR YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO WORK WITH YOUR , UM STATE SENATORS DELEGATES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE DISTRICT AND BRING THEM ALONG TO YOUR COMMUNITY GROUPS OR AREAS TO SAY, HEY, WE REALLY NEED THIS IS A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT'S READY TO GO RIGHT AND SO THEY CAN PUT IN A LOCAL BOND INITIATIVE. YEP. OKAY THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T YOU, MR GUTHRIE? MR GENDER IDENTITY. SO WELCOME TO BEL AIR. THANK YOU. WELCOME. GREAT HOPE YOU HAD A GREAT DAY DID WELL, THAT'S GOOD . AND THANKS FOR STOPPING THE RAIN, TOO. AREN'T YOU HAPPY? YES YES. YEAH YOU DID A GREAT ANALOGY. UM, MR COUNCILMAN PENMAN ASKED A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK WE WERE, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT A WHILE AGO. SO THAT WAS A GOOD ONLY ONE ONLY ONE ISSUE. SHE'S NOT MOVING FROM HARTFORD, CANADA, AND IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I WAS LIKE MAYBE GOING. CECIL WOULD BE EVEN WORSE, SO I SAID I WASN'T SURE SO COUPLE QUESTIONS DIGITAL AND DIGITAL AND TAX, UM HOW DOES THAT GET CALCULATED DOESN'T GET CALCULATED ON WHERE THE BUSINESS IS LOCATED, OR WHERE THE VENDOR IS BUILDING YOU FROM. AND HOW MUCH HAVE WE COLLECTED SO FAR? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, SO WE HAVE NOT COLLECTED. I KNEW I USED TO KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE JUST WE'RE IN THE SUPREME COURT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ON THIS, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THE DIGITAL AD GROSS REVENUE TAX WAS PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SEVERAL YEARS AGO. SO THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN THE COUNTRY. THE IDEA IS THAT WE TAX UM THAT DIGITAL ADS THAT YOU KNOW COMPANIES LIKE FACEBOOK OR SHOWING US RIGHT OR COMCAST, YOU KNOW BIG BIG COMPANIES AND NOT THE SMALL MOM AND POP ONES. UM SO IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BASED ON . UM I'M GONNA GET IT WRONG AND I'LL FOLLOW UP IF I'M WRONG. SO YOU GUYS HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, BUT ON FIRST OF ALL, IT CAN'T. IT'S ONLY FOR COMPANIES THAT ARE OVER A CERTAIN DOLLAR FIGURE. UM, SO THERE'S A LARGE COMPANIES, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE TO AMEND IN FIX AND STUFF. UM WE HAVE TAKEN IN.

I WANT TO SAY TENS OF MILLIONS. UM BUT WE WERE SUED. SO COMCAST SUED, SAYING THAT THIS WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. UM BUT RATHER THAN FILING TAX COURT, WHICH IS WHERE USUALLY TAX QUESTIONS GO.

THEY FILED IN THE NORMAL COURT, SO DISTRICT COURT CIRCUIT CIRCUIT COURT, UM, APPELLATE COURT. UM FOUND IN FAVOR OF COMCAST. AND IT WENT UP TO THE SUPREME COURT. UM THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN THE DEFENDANT IN A CASE WAS REALLY EXCITING. NEVER BEEN THE DEFENDANT BEFORE . BECAUSE SINCE I'M THE TAX COLLECTOR, ANY TAX CASES THE CONTROLLER IS THE DEFENDANT, SO WE WERE IN THE MARYLAND SUPREME COURT A FEW WEEKS AGO, MAYBE A MONTH OR SO AGO. UM AND THE SUPREME COURT ACTUALLY AGREED WITH THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, UM, AND THREW THE CASE OUT ON PROCEDURAL GROUNDS AND SAID, NO COMCAST LIKE YOU DON'T GET TO BYPASS TAX COURT. YOU HAVE TO GO TO TAX COURT. SO NOW WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THE CIRCUIT COURT, UM APPELLATE COURT HAD SAID THAT IT WAS ON UNCONSTITUTIONAL. WE WEREN'T ACTIVELY COLLECTING LIKE YOU COULD VOLUNTARILY. IF YOU ARE A COMPANY THAT OWED IT, YOU COULD VOLUNTARILY PAY. BUT WE WEREN'T GOING OUT AND EATING COMPANIES AND SAYING, HEY, YOU OWE US THIS MONEY, RIGHT? UM AND SO SOME, AND WE EVEN SAID IF YOU WANT TO REFUND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ALREADY PAID WILL ISSUE YOU A REFUND, AND SO SOME COMPANIES CAME AND GOT REFUNDS AS WELL. UM SO RIGHT WHEN THE SUPREME COURT THEN MADE THEIR DECISION, THEN IT BECAME LEGAL FOR US TO COLLECT AND TO TELL THOSE COMPANIES THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU OWE. UM SO I HAVEN'T HAD A REPORT SINCE THE SUPREME COURT CASE ON HOW MUCH MONEY HAS COME IN, BUT WE CAN GET THAT REPORT AND SEND IT TO YOU. AND

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WHERE DOES IT GO TO? UM SORRY TO THE GENERAL FUND, THE GENERAL FUND AND THE BLUEPRINTS. UM SO IT'S YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY PASSED TO HELP SUPPORT THE BLUEPRINT. UM, FROM OUT THE EDUCATION BILL, SO, BUT, YES, IT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THE, UM. SUSPENDING THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE CRAFT ALCOHOL CARRY OUT BEER THAT FRANCO WAS WORKED THAT THERE WAS THAT BIG ISSUE WITH THE CRAFT BREWERIES A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. UM I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING A RESOLUTION TO THAT. AND WHERE DOES THAT STAND NOW? WITH BECAUSE WE'VE JUST LOST, UM THREE BREWERIES. ONE OF THE TWO OF THEM ARE CRAFT BREWERIES, AND I GOTTA FEELING IT COULD SPIRAL INTO MORE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS ANYTHING. THAT'S WHY I FIGURED I'D ASK YOU BECAUSE THAT WAS AN ISSUE WITH FRIENDSHIP BEFORE AND YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. SO UM, THE ISSUE WITH CARRY OUT GOT RESOLVED. BEFORE GUINNESS CAME.

UM, SO THEY AMENDED THE LAW, AND THEN WE AMENDED IT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT GUINNESS COULD BE HERE, FRANKLY, UM, AND TO SUPPORT BREWERIES AND WINERIES AND DISTILLERIES, UM AND THEN THERE WAS A LOT DURING THE PANDEMIC, RIGHT THAT YOU COULD DO CARRY OUT AT LIKE RESTAURANTS YOU COULD DRINK. SO THAT BECAME THAT BECAME A PERMANENT LAW. BUT IT'S UP TO THE COUNTIES, BASICALLY, SO THE STATE HAS ALLOWED IT, BUT COUNTIES HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT THEIR THE DECISION IN THEIR LOCALITIES TO BE, UM. YOU KNOW, WE NO LONGER RUN THE ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO COMMISSION, WHICH IS THE ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. THAT'S NO DIFFERENT AGENTS. IT'S ITS OWN INDEPENDENT AGENCY, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOW THE ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND CANNABIS COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO ENFORCE CANNABIS. UM BUT WE'RE STILL THE TAXING AUTHORITY. SO WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR BREWERIES OR DISTILLERIES ARE WINERIES AND SOON OUR CANNABIS COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT TAX FORMS THAT THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT. UM THEY'RE PRETTY COMPLICATED. SO RECENTLY, WE'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH SOME OF OUR BREWS AND WINERIES AND DISTILLERIES, AND WE'VE CREATED HOW TO VIDEOS. UM AND WE'RE DOING WEBINARS AS WELL WITH ALL OF THEM SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN AND WE CAN GO OVER ALL THE ISSUES AND WE'RE ALSO TRYING , SO THOSE ARE SORT OF SHORT TERM FIXES, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY THE WAYS THAT THE THAT OUR REGULATIONS AND OUR STATE STATUTES, YOU KNOW WHY THEY MAKE IT SO COMPLICATED TO FILE. UM WE'RE JUST TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THE BEDS. IT'S SO MUCH SIMPLER, AND SO WE WANT TO REALLY SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SIMPLIFY THE TAX FORMS TO WHICH IS ANOTHER WAY TO SAY, HEY, BREWERIES. WE WANT YOU TO STAY.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SIMPLER TO DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT HERE. GREAT AND LAST QUESTION, UM, TAX RATE ON CANNABIS, SAME AS ALCOHOL. 9% MUCH LOWER. WELL NO ALCOHOL IS 9% WHEN YOU GO INTO WHEN YOU GO INTO A RESTAURANT, BUT THEY HAVE AN EXCISE TAX TO AND CANNABIS WON'T YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, THANK YOU. YEP. 9% THANK YOU, MR GINGER. DANNO. UM ANYONE ELSE? MR PYM, JUST, UH. MY CITIZEN BUDGET VISOR HERE. CAN I GET YOUR INFORMATION FOR HIM JUST TO FOLLOW UP LATER ON. THANK YOU CARDS SO WE CAN LEAVE SOME OF HER CARDS PERFECT. WELL, AND YOU CAN GRAB THE MINOR WAY OUT. THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. YES THANK YOU. YEAH, JUST GIVE THEM TO MR CARNEY. THAT WOULD BE FINE. YEAH GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OH, SORRY. GOOD. MR BENNETT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, AND IT'S FUN TO FIND OUT WE HAD SIMILAR SPRINGS. FELLOW DEFENDANT BUDDIES. UM BUT IN THE SAME BUILDING JUST A FEW WEEKS APART. HOPEFULLY WE'RE BOTH ONE AND I'M BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D SHARE THAT LITTLE COINCIDENCE. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH LORD WAS FUNNY. YEAH I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO STOP BY AND SEE US AND VISIT WITH US. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THE FUTURE, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A BUSY SCHEDULE. YOU NEED TO RUN. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A VERY BUSY NIGHT. SO JUST THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME A FEW MINUTES AND I REALLY DO MEAN IT.

I HOPE THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION AND NOT THE END AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO BE HELPFUL. I LOOK FORWARD TO RETURNING TO HARFORD COUNTY. UM OFTEN, SO I WILL SAY IN THE PAST THE PRIOR CONTROLLER WOULD VISIT BUSINESSES FROM TIME TO TIME ACROSS THE COUNTY WOULD LET THE DISTRICT REP KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN TOWN AND MAYBE BE ABLE TO VISIT WITH THEM. SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. ABSOLUTELY IF YOU DO COME BACK OR WHEN YOU COME BACK. ABSOLUTELY AN EVIL.

MAKE SURE TO LET YOU KNOW. UM YOU KNOW WHERE I AM AND WHO I'M VISITING WITH AND JUST KEEP IN TOUCH. WE HAVE SOME BIG FESTIVALS COMING UP IN HARTFORD COUNTY. I AM A BIG FAN I USED TO LAST YEAR LAST SUMMER, I WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT TO A FEW OF THE FRIDAY NIGHT'S FIRST FRIDAYS AND HAVE TO GRACE AND YEAH. YOU HAVE A LOT OF FUN. I CAME TO THE FAIR, SO WE TRY TO MAKE IT OUT.

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AND IF THERE'S EVER ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK, HEY, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE INFORMATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REALLY GREAT FLYERS ACTUALLY HAVE SOME IN MY PURSE THAT I'LL LEAVE WITH HIM AS WELL. AND IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU WANT SOME OF THOSE FOR YOUR DISTRICT OFFICES OR ANYTHING, WE CAN GET YOU MATERIALS THAT YOU CAN HAND OUT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS JUST LIKE YOU KNOW ABOUT TAX CREDITS AND DIFFERENT THINGS. SO JUST LET US KNOW AND WE'RE HAPPY TO GET YOU MATERIALS. SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]

AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FOUR PRESENTATION PROCLAMATIONS. WE HAVE NONE FIVE CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS. COUNCIL APPOINTMENT. HARFORD LIVING TREASURE. ROBERT FARRINGTON, MR RILEY. YES. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THEY HAVE A MOTION FOR HARPING LIVING TREASURE. ROBERT HARRINGTON. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I DO.

THEY MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. AND THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE NOMINATION BY THE CULTURE ARTS BOARD FOR ROBERT HARRINGTON. HARFORD LIVING TREASURE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING THEM, MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT. THREE PENMAN, MR RILEY OR MR JAN GIORDANO, I MR RILEY. I. MRS BALL SADDLE, MR BENNETT I SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE DENOMINATION IS HEREBY APPROVED. HARFORD TV ADVISORY POURED MISS SADDLES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF LOUISIANA ER SEUIN FOR HARTFORD TV ADVISORY BOARD. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A SECOND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT TO THE HARFORD TV ADVISORY BORDERS OR ANY DISCUSSION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. MR GENDER DOWN, JUST WANNA CLARIFIED, SAID VERIZON REPRESENTATIVE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS OR NOT. IT DOES. THANK YOU. UM ANYONE ANYONE ELSE? MS DICKSON, MR PRESIDENT.

MR GUTHRIE MANAGER DEANNA HI, MR RILEY. MR BENNETT. SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO AND NEGATIVE TO HEAR THEIR APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED. EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENTS. HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY, BORDER TRUSTEES MISSILES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT OF JAMES MICHAEL WOODS AND THE REAPPOINTMENT OF DR WILLIAM B. ALLEN TERRENCE FLANNERY AND THE STUDENT APPOINTMENT OF EVA HOLLOWAY FOR THE HARTFORD COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A SECOND THANK YOU, MR RILEY. MOVED A SECOND TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS AND THE STUDENT APPOINTMENT TO THE BORDER TRUSTEES TRAINED DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON, PRESIDENT. MR GUTHRIE PENMAN, DEANO RILEY SADDLES MR BENNETT HIGH BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO AND NEGATIVE. THE APPOINTMENTS ARE HEREBY APPROVAL OR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE CHAMBERS THIS EVENING. ALL RIGHT. AH HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE STUDENT MEMBER LAURA SHOE HALL. SECOND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MOVING A SECOND TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION IS READY DISCUSSION IN DIXON. MR. PRESIDENT MR GUTHRIE PENMAN, MR . JAN GIARDINA, MR RILEY SADDLE.

MR BENNETT. I BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO AND NEGATIVE. THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED. AH HMM. OKAY THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. GEN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN APPROVAL OF

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MINUTES LEGISLATIVE DAY 23-0 18 MAY 30 2023 ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES?

[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS]

THERE BEING NO CORRECTIONS. TWO MINUTES STANDARD PROVED MR JAN GIORDANO. PLEASE READ RESOLUTION 0 35-23 THE RECORD FOR INTRODUCTION RESOLUTION 0 35-23 PERFORMANCE AND OPERATIONAL AUDITS FISCAL YEAR 2024 INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY AUDITOR TO CONDUCT OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE AUDITING PROCEDURES INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024. ANNUAL AUDIT PLAN. GOOD EVENING, MR BROOKS. THANKS FOR COMING. SURE GOOD

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EVENING. UH SO YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU RESOLUTION, 35 23. IT IS THE AUDIT PLAN FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO REVIEW. UM BUT ALSO SO THAT IT'S BEEN FORMALLY NOTED THAT WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO DO THIS PERFORMANCE AUDITING PROCEDURES THAT ARE NEEDED. UM THIS IS A RISK BASED AUDIT PLAN.

AND SO ME AND STAFF IN MY OFFICE GOES THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE ALL THE COUNTIES BUSINESS PROCESSES, UM, TO FIGURE OUT HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT SOMETHING WILL GO WRONG IN ONE OF THOSE PROCESSES AND ALSO, UM, HOW BIG OF A DEAL WOULD IT BE? SO ONCE WE QUANTIFIED THE LIKELIHOOD AND SIGNIFICANCE OF A PROBLEM IN ANY GIVEN BUSINESS PROCESS? BASICALLY GO DOWN THE LIST AND SAY, WELL, WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS YEAR? HOW RECENTLY HAVE WE LOOKED AT THIS? UH, PROCESS. UH AND ALSO, WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS? SO IN THAT CASE, OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE YOU ALL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE ALSO MEET WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO FIND OUT WHAT HIS PRIORITIES ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN FACTORED INTO OUR OVERALL RISK ASSESSMENT. SO ONCE WE DO THAT ACTUALLY COME UP WITH THIS PLAN? UM LOOKING AT IT. A LOT OF THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN PRIOR YEARS AND PROJECTS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR. UM SO YOU'LL SEE IN THEIR AUDIT OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CONTROL ACCOUNTS PAYABLE. PARTS AND RECREATION INVENTORY CONTROL FACILITY. ACCESS HOLE CABLE FRANCHISE FEES. UH HARVARD TRANSITS, CASH RECEIPTS, EMPLOYEE SEPARATION. BUILDING PERMIT BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND PERMITS BUILDING COLLECTION RELATED TO THOSE WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT E. M S FILLING IN THE NEXT YEAR. UM SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR OR THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT GETS DONE. UH WE LOOK AT PETTY CASH EVERY YEAR. WE FOLLOW UP ON OUR PRIOR FINDINGS, UH, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED. UM WE DO BUDGET ANALYSIS AND FISCAL NOTES FOR YOU ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, SO OUR AUDIT PLAN INCLUDES TIME FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS, ALONG WITH ALSO THINGS LIKE TIME OFF. ALSO TRAINING FOR OUR STAFF. WE ALSO SAVE SOME TIME FOR UNANTICIPATED PROJECTS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THINGS COME UP. UM, THAT ARE REALLY HIGH PRIORITY SO WE DO HAVE TIME IN OUR BUDGET FOR THOSE THINGS. THERE'S A FISCAL IMPACT NOTE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS, UH, RESOLUTION. YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT NEXT WEEK, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THERE'S NO FISCAL IMPACT RESOLUTION. UM HERE IT IN THE BUDGET FOR OUR OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT OUR AUDIT PLAN LOOKS LIKE. AND I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT IT. COUNCIL ANYONE WITH ANY QUESTIONS, MR GINGER DONNA.

CRYSTAL GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, DEDICATION SUPPORT GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT DEFINITELY WAS SO ALL THESE AUDITS THAT YOU DO I KNOW IT COMES IN HANDY WHEN WE NEED WHEN WE NEED THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR GENTRY. DINNER, MR PENMAN. CRYSTAL. I JUST WANT TO ECHO. UM WHAT TONY HAD SAID, UM, I'M A FREQUENT FLYER AT YOUR OFFICE. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK AND YOUR STAFF DOES AND HOW RESPONSIVE YOU YOU ARE. SO IT HELPS ME. JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK. ANYONE ELSE? AND I WOULD GO THE SAME SEDIMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S SO FUNNY BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN HE DOES GET OUT OF EVERY SKIS A LITTLE BIT, HIS PHONE BEEPS AND YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT IN THE CHAMBERS, YOU'RE LISTENING TO EVERY MEETING EVERY WORD AND WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE TO US. BUT THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY THANK YOU AND COUNCIL. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THIS UNTIL NEXT MEETING AS WELL AND VOTE ON THE PLAN AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE INTRODUCTION OF BILLS WE HAVE NONE. INTRODUCTION AND

[10. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]

CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS OF. MR VICE PRESIDENT. PLEASE READ AMENDMENTS TO BUILD 23-01.

AMENDMENTS TO BUILD 23-011 APARTMENTS. B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AMENDMENTS INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE ON PAGE TWO STRIKE, BEGINNING WITH THE IN LINE TO DOWN THROUGH DISTRICTS IN LINE THREE AND SUBSTITUTE THE R FOUR ZONING DISTRICT IN THE B THREE ZONING DISTRICT, RESTRICTED SOLELY TO BEING LOCATED IN A MIXED USE CENTER SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT PURSUANT TO. TO 67-76. AND THEN WENT NUMBER TWO ON PAGE TWO.

AFTER LINE 19 INSERT SEE, UH, PARENTHESES. QUOTATION SEE, NOTWITHSTANDING ANY PROVISIONS OF THIS CODE TO THE CONTRARY GARDEN AND MADE RISE APARTMENT SHALL BE PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THE B THREE ZONING DISTRICT PROVIDED THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE PART OF A MIXED USE CENTER

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PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF TO 67-76 OR ARE ADJACENT. TO THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL RETAIL CONTAINING AN EXCESS OF 50,000 SQUARE FEET DOWN THERE, THAT THAT'S FUNNY. THE ROLL SYMBOL MEANS SECTION SO IT'S JUST SECTION 2 67. ON AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE ON PAGE FOUR AND FIVE. STRIKE BEGINNING WITH AND IN LINE 16. ON PAGE FOUR DOWN THROUGH REFERENCE IN LINE ONE ON PAGE FIVE AND SUBSTITUTE AND BE IT FURTHER ENACTED THAT ATTACHMENT A TO 67 ATTACHMENT 19. DASH 19 COLON 12 OF THE PERMITTED USE CHART IS AMENDED AS PROVIDED THERE IN AS INCORPORATED HEARING BY REFERENCE. AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR CHART REFERENCED IN AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE ON PAGE FIVE STRAIGHT BEGINNING WITH AND IN LINE TO DOWN THROUGH REFERENCE IN LINE SIX AND SUBSTITUTE AND BE IT FURTHER ENACTED THAT THE ATTACHMENT B TABLE 59-3 OF THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFIED USES B THREE SPECIFIC USES B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS AMENDED AS PROVIDED THERE IN AND IS INCORPORATED HERE IN BY REFERENCE AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. CHART REFERENCED IN AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN ON THE TITLE PAGE STRIKE, BEGINNING WITH TWO ON LYING FOR DOWN THROUGH TO 67-76 IN LINE SEVEN INCLUSIVE AND SUBSTITUTE. TO RESTRICT GARDEN APARTMENTS AND MID RISE APARTMENTS AND THE B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TO ONLY APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE EITHER PART OF A MIXED USE CENTER PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 2 67 THAT 76 OR ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED AS COMMERCIAL RETAIL, WHICH IS IN EXCESS OF 50,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN THE NUMBER EIGHT ON THE TITLE PAGE IN LINE A STRIKE TO ELIMINATE THE ROW LABELED APARTMENTS FROM THE TABLE AND SUBSTITUTE TO SHOW APARTMENTS ARE SUBJECT TO THE LIMITATIONS IN SECTION 2 67-73. AND THEN NUMBER 9 74, SIR TO 60 SECTION 2 67-74. AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE ON THE TITLE PAGE IN THE 11TH LINE STRIKE UNLESS BEING UNDERTAKEN PURSUANT TO AN APPROVED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SUBSTITUTE SUBJECT TO CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS.

EXCEPTIONS, EXCEPTIONS. THANK YOU, MR JAN GIORDANO. UM AND AGAIN, THESE AMENDMENTS WILL BE CONSIDERED AT A FUTURE MEETING. UM AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH 16 TO BUILD 23-0 13 HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE THIS EVENING. TODAY WE NOTICED SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, SO WE'RE HOLDING THEIR BACK. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO AMENDMENTS TO BUILD 23-0 14 ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE.

MISS SPENCE, MR SANDERS. COUNCIL. MAY I HAVE GENERAL CONSENT TO MOVE FORWARD AND VOTE ? UH ON THESE AMENDMENTS IN BLOCKS LIKE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ACCEPT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM I'LL GO RIGHT INTO VOTING BLOCK ONE. AMENDMENTS NUMBER ONE AND TWO. THIS IS TO REALLOCATE FUNDS FROM HUMAN RESOURCES, PERSONNEL MATTERS AND THE AMOUNT OF $750,000 AND PROVIDE TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO SUPPORT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK ONE. COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOC ONE CONTAINING AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO. YOU, MR GUTHRIE. IT'S MOVING A SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOC. ONE ISRAELI DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE. MR PENMAN . MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES MR BENNETT I SEVEN VOTING ZERO NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK. ONE IS HEREBY APPROVED. SPENCER VOTING BLOC TO OUR AMENDMENTS THREE THROUGH SEVEN, AND THIS IS TO REALLOCATE FUNDS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IN THE AMOUNT OF 43,005 38 AND THE DIRECTOR OF MINISTRATIONS, THE IN THE AMOUNT OF 43,005 37. THIS IS TO INCREASE FUNDING TO HARTFORD CENTER AND THE AMOUNT OF $7470 AND THE ARK NORTHERN CHESAPEAKE REGION AND THE AMOUNT OF $7630 AND TO HOUSING AND COMMUNITY

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DEVELOPMENT AND THE AMOUNT OF 71,009 75 AND THIS IS TO RESTORE GRANT IN AID FUNDS TO THE FY 23 APPROPRIATION LEVELS. THANK YOU. MR SPENCE MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOC TO CONTAINING AMENDMENTS THREE THROUGH SEVEN. HAVE A 2ND 2ND.

THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. THE SECOND TO APPROVE VIRGIN BLOCK TWO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN SUDANO RILEY SADDLES. MR BENNETT. I. BEING SEVEN VOTING AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK TWO IS HEREBY APPROVED BLACK NUMBER THREE OR AMENDMENTS EIGHT THROUGH 10. THIS IS TO REALLOCATE FROM FUNDS FROM A VACANT POSITION WITHIN COMMUNITY SERVICE IS THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $101,859 AND FROM A VACANT POSITION WITHIN PLANNING AND ZONING, THE DIRECTOR PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE AMOUNT OF $89,443 TO PROVIDE FOR OUR MARKETING STAFF WITHIN OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU MAY HAVE EMOTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK THREE CONTAINING AMENDMENTS EIGHT THROUGH 12TH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. THE SECRETARY PROVED. VOTING BLOCK THREE DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PITTMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY MODELS, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK THREE IS HEREBY APPROVED. PUTTING BLOCK NUMBER FOUR AMENDMENTS 11 AND 12. THIS IS TO INCREASE THE FUND BALANCE APPROPRIATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $10 MILLION TO INCREASE BOARD OF EDUCATION, INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES TO SUPPORT TEACHERS, SALARIES AND CLASSROOMS, HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK FORWARD CONTAINING AMENDMENTS. 11 AND 12. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. THE SECOND TO APPROVE.

BUILDING BLOCK FOUR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK FOUR IS HEREBY APPROVED. VOTING BLOCK NUMBER FIVE OR AMENDMENTS 13 AND 14. THIS IS THE INCREASE FUND BALANCE APPROPRIATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $150,000 TO INCREASE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE SALARY FUNDS FOR TWO VICTIM WITNESS ADVOCATES. THEY HAVE EMOTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK FIVE CONTAINING AMENDMENTS 13 AND 14. HAVE A SECOND VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE SECONDED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK FIVE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. I BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK FIVE IS HEREBY APPROVED. VOTING BLOCK SIX AMENDMENTS 15 AND 16. THIS IS TO INCREASE FUND BALANCE APPROPRIATED IN THE AMOUNT OF $410,000 TO INCREASE THE OFFICE OF THE STATE'S ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SALARY FUNDS HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK SIX CONTINUE AMENDMENTS 15 AND 16 2ND. SECOND MS SOBS. BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK SIX ISRAELI DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR GUTHRIE PENMAN. MR JAN GIORDANO, MR. RILEY DOES MR BENNETT I BEING SEVEN, VIRGINIA AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK SIX IS HEREBY APPROVED. VOTING BLOCK NUMBER SEVEN. THIS IS FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THIS IS TO INCREASE FEDERAL FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,250,000 TO PROVIDE FOR A MATCH FOR THE STATE BROADBAND GRANTS ON THE BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE CAPITAL PROJECT, AND THAT IS AMENDMENT 17 AND 18. MAY HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCS, SEVEN CONTAINING AMENDMENTS 17 AND 18 2ND 2ND. MR PAEMEN. IT'S MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK SEVEN IS READY DISCUSSION.

MS DICKSON. MR PRESIDENT, MR GUTHRIE PENMAN, MR JAN GIORDANO. MR RILEY ALZADO. MR. BENNETT. I BEING SEVEN VOTES IN INFORMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK SEVEN IS HEREBY APPROVED

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BLOCK EIGHT AMENDMENTS 19 AND 20 . THIS IS TO INCREASE STATE FUNDS FOR THE LIBRARIES CAPITAL PROJECT. THE BEL AIR LIBRARY RENOVATIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,607,000. YOU WILL ALSO NOTE, THERE WILL BE A MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE THAT FOLLOWS THIS MEMORANDUM CHANGE NUMBER FIVE WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCKADE CONTAINING AMENDMENTS. 19 AND 22ND SECOND THANK YOU, MISS SADDLES. IT'S MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOC EAT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY ALZADO, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO AND NEGATIVE VERY IN BLACK EIGHT IS HEREBY APPROVED. VOTING BLOCK NUMBER NINE AMENDMENTS 21 AND 22 . THIS IS TO INCREASE STATE PROGRAM OPEN SPACE FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $400,000 TO PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND ALLOCATED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION PARK LAND ACQUISITION CAPITAL PROJECT. MAY HAVE EMOTIONS.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK NINE CONTAINING AMENDMENTS 21 AND 22 2ND, MR GUTHRIE. SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK NINE IS RAIN DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN GIORDANO, MR. RILEY MR BENNETT? I BEING SEVEN VOTING AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK NINE IS APPROVED. PUTTING BLACK 10 AMENDMENTS 23 AND 24. THIS IS TO INCREASE OTHER FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3 MILLION TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATION AUTHORITY TO EXCEPT FOR MY CONTRIBUTOR OR BENEFACTOR, TO CREATE A NEW PARKS AND REC CAPITAL PROJECTS, CEDAR LANE PARK IMPROVEMENTS MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 10 CONTAINING AMENDMENTS 23 AND 24 2ND. SECOND THANK YOU. MR PENMAN MOVEMENT SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 10. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR GINGER, DAMMIT! I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT'S A TREMENDOUS GIFT FROM SOMEBODY CEDAR LANE PARK. I KNOW THAT'S A JEWEL AND OUR RECREATION. WE REALLY NEEDED THAT SHOW. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEE, UH SOME MORE IMPROVEMENTS AS HE TODAY PARK AND I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE WHOEVER GAVE THAT DONATION AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY KNEW WE WERE THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANYONE ELSE? MS DICKSON, MR PRESIDENT. MR GUTHRIE. MR PENMAN. MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES. MR BENNETT. I BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK, 10 IS HEREBY APPROVED BLACK 11 AMENDMENTS 25 THROUGH 36. THIS IS TWO CORRECT VARIOUS WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL PROJECTS, REMOVING THE FUNNY SOURCE OF PRIOR BONDS AND REPLACING IT WITH INVESTMENT INCOME. THIS IS NECESSARY TO CORRECT THE AMOUNT OF APPROPRIATED PRIOR BRONZE. TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY AVAILABLE, SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT INCOME THAT WE'RE REPLACING IT.

THE PRIOR BONDS WITH IS $402,854 . HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 11 CONTAINING AMENDMENTS 25 THROUGH 36 OF A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IT'S MOVING A SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 11. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MS DICKSON? MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR. RILEY, MRS. BALL SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK. 11 IS HEREBY APPROVED. HURTING BLACK 12 AMENDMENTS 37 THROUGH 58 AT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND AS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY COUNCIL ON THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION DAY 23 16. THESE AMENDMENTS ARE TO REALLOCATE HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS FUND BALANCE TO VARIOUS BOARD OF EDUCATION CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR TOTAL AMOUNT OF 20,000,006 81 6 42. HAVE EMOTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 12 CONTINUE AMENDMENTS 37 3 58 A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR CLEMENS.

IT'S MOVING A SECOND AND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 12. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MISS DIXON? MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE I PENMAN MR JAN GIORDANO HIGH. MR RILEY SADDLES. MR BENNETT. I BEING 7 13 AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VIRGIN BARK 12 IS HEREBY APPROVED. UM. COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. TONIGHT WE HAVE FIVE MEMORANDUMS CHANGE TO RESOLUTION 0 25-23 CALVIN

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IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. UH, FIRST REMEMBER HIM CHANGE? IS RESOLUTION OR 20 RESOLUTION 0 25 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. UM MAY I HAVE A MOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT? I MOVED TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE NUMBER ONE. HAVE A SECOND SECOND. LET'S MOVE THE SECOND TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE ONE IS READY DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES.

MR BENNETT. I. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGED NUMBER ONE IS HEREBY APPROVED. REMEMBER RANDOM OF CHANGE NUMBER 2 MAY HAVE EMOTION . COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVE TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGED NUMBER TWO SECOND SECOND THANK YOU, MR PENMAN. SECOND TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE NUMBER TWO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR CHANGER, DANA DO WE NEED TO READ IN WHAT THE PROJECT IS IN THE MEMORANDUM OR NOT, YOU CAN, IF YOU LIKE. UM UM OKAY PROJECT IS ATHLETIC AND RECREATION, REPAIRS AND IMPROVEMENTS. THE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE WILL APPROPRIATE 337,000 AND PAYGO FUNDING IN FISCAL YEAR 2025 FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE OUTDOOR TRACK AT HARVARD GRACE HIGH SCHOOL, THE FISCAL 20 YEAR 24 FUNDS OF 337 WILL BE TO REPLACE THE TRACK AT ABERDEEN HIGH SCHOOL. IS THERE ANY OTHER 7000? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE PENMAN. MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES MR BENNETT HIGH. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO AND NEGATIVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGED, TOO, IS HEREBY APPROVED. MEMORANDUM OF CHANGED THREE. YOU WANT TO READ IT IN? YES, SIR.

RESOLUTION 25-23 CAPITAL PROGRAM FISCAL YEARS 2024 THROUGH 2029 PARKS AND REC CEDAR LANE PARK IMPROVEMENTS. THIS MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE WILL ADD THE CEDAR LANE PARK IMPROVEMENTS CAPITAL PROJECT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 24 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND APPROPRIATE 1,500,000 AND OTHER PRIVATE DONATIONS. IN FISCAL YEAR 2025. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE NUMBER THREE SECOND SECOND THANK YOU, MR PLYMOUTH. THE SECOND TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGED NUMBER THREE. MR JANITOR, DENNIS. SO AGAIN, I JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT I RECOGNIZE THE PRIVATE DONATION OF 1,500,000 TO CEDAR SATURDAY. PARK LANE PARK. UM I THINK THAT'S NOW. 4.5 MILLION AND DONATIONS. UM SO I KNOW EVERYBODY'S VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RECORDED OUT THERE, AND WE CERTAINLY DO. THE CITIZENS OF HARTFORD COUNTY.

CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE, PENMAN. GIORDANO HI, MR RILEY. SADDLES, MR BENNETT. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO AND NEGATIVE MEMORANDUM CHANGED THREE IS HEREBY APPROVED.

MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE FOR MR DANCER DOWN. I'D ALSO LIKE TO READ THIS IN RESOLUTION 20 0 25 23 CAPITAL PROGRAM FISCAL YEARS 2024 TO 2029 PARKS AND REC JOPPATOWNE JABBA COMMUNITY CENTER. THIS MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE RENAMES THE JAPANESE CHOPPER TOWN YOUTH CENTER TO THE JAPANESE JOPPATOWNE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND WE'LL MOVE FISCAL YEAR 2026 FUTURE BOND FUNDING ANY MAN OF 2 MILLION AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2029 FUTURE BUTTON BOND FUNDING THE AMOUNT OF 7 MILLION TO FISCAL YEAR 2025 FOR THE JAPANESE JOPPATOWNE COMMUNITY CENTER CAPITAL PROJECT. MAY HAVE EMOTION, PLEASE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVED TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE FOR SECOND THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. THE SECOND TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE FOR IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR GUTHRIE ? YES, IT'S JUST THAT DOES BUT A LONG TIME COMING. I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK'S BEEN DONE NOT ONLY BY THIS COUNCIL BUT CAN'T EXECUTIVE TO GET THIS TO WHERE IT IS. IT'S MOVING IT UP FIVE YEARS CLOSER TO US FROM FROM FISCAL 2029 AND THEN IT'S YOU KNOW HOW THOSE OUT YEARS WORK? IT DOESN'T REALLY MEAN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE OUT YEARS. AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THEM THE OUT YEARS GO FURTHER OUT, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS MOVING US UP INTO THE 23 24 PERIOD. 25 THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE? MR PENN. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND, UH,

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COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE FOR HIS ADVOCATION ON THIS. I KNOW HE'S BEEN ON THIS, AND IT'S COMMUNITY GROUPS AND WITH THE PARKS AND REC TERRY CAN CONTEST TO THAT. SO GOOD JOB ON THAT ON GETTING THIS MOVED UP. THANK YOU, MR JAMES OR DOWN LIKE TO COMMEND MR GUTHRIE AND GLAD HE WAS ABLE TO COME BACK ON THIS COUNCIL. AND BE ABLE TO PUSH THIS FORWARD WITHOUT HIM. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN DONE, SO IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO HAMMOND. SOMEBODY COME BACK AND WORK ON SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T GET DONE. SO THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY. AH COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVED AND WE DID HAVE A SECOND BECAUSE I SECOND IT. DOWN FIRST . MR CARNEY, MR. CARNEY. I LOVE IT WHEN YOU'RE OUT OF LINE I LOVE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN HOLDING UP THE VOTE MISTAKE, 30 YEARS WAITING FOR THIS VOTE. I WANT TO GET IN PRESIDENT, MR GUTHRIE II PENMAN . MR. JAN GIORDANO, I RILEY. MRS BULL SADDLE. HI, MR BENNETT. I THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO AND NEGATIVE.

REMEMBER? RANDOM HAS CHANGED. FOUR IS HEREBY APPROVED. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE FIVE. CANCEL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE FIVE MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. MR MODELS. THANK YOU. SECOND TO APPROVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGE FIVE. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON MY HANDS. I'M SORRY TO SEE MR JAN JORDANA. I JUST WANT TO THANK MARY HASLER , THE HEAD OF HARFORD COUNTY. UH PUBLIC LIBRARIES FOR USING SOME OF HER FUNDS TO GET THIS PROJECT CHANGE THAT BELLER LIBRARY SO AGAIN. I JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. PRESIDENT FREE PENMAN. MR JAN GIORDANO, MR. RILEY MR BENNETT. I. FOR BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO AND NEGATIVE MEMORANDUM OF CHANGED FIVE IS HEREBY APPROVED . I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK BOTH OF YOU THUS FAR FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS BUDGET.

I WANT YOU TO DELIVER A MESSAGE BACK TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND TELL HIM THAT WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT HE'S PUT FORTH TO LOOK AT THE CONCERNS THAT THIS COUNCILS HAD AND LISTEN AND FIND THE WHEREWITHAL TO TAKE CARE OF THEM. WE STILL HAVE ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT WERE QUESTIONING AND WE HOPE THAT HE CONTINUES TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS. THE AGENDA NUMBER 11 OBVIOUSLY WILL BE HELD THE BILL 23-0 13 UNTIL NEXT WEEK. UM NUMBER 12. ENROLLMENT OF BILLS. WE HAVE NONE 13 UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE. 14 NEW

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BUSINESS BOARD OF EDUCATION, HARFORD COUNTY, MISS JUDD MR CLARK. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. EACH YEAR. WE REVIEW OUR STATE CATEGORIES AS WE'RE SPENDING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND AT THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER, WE DO A PROJECTION THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. DETERMINE WHICH STATE CATEGORIES WE MAY BE OVER SPENT IN. THAT HAPPENS FROM TIME TO TIME, DEPENDING ON UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT OCCURRED DURING THE YEAR. SO WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO REQUEST APPROVAL TO MAKE THE INTER CATEGORY TRANSFERS BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE A COPY. MR CLARK IS GOING TO WALK THROUGH THOSE DETAILS WITH YOU, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. LEAVING PRESIDENT VINCENTI AND COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE MR JUDGE SAID, WHAT WE FILE OUR BUDGET STYLE. IT IS WITHIN STATE CATEGORY. AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEND OVER IN THOSE PARTICULARS. BUT MIKE O. I'M SORRY. I'LL START OVER THERE. I DIDN'T THINK I WAS BEING ALLOWED ENOUGH. PRESIDENT VINCENTI. THANK YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT WHEN WE FILE OUR BUDGET WITH THE MARYLAND STATE DEPARTMENT EDUCATION. IT IS BY STATE CATEGORY AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEND OVER IN THOSE STATE CATEGORIES WITHOUT COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL ACTUALLY THE BOARD OF EDUCATION FIRST IN THE COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL TO MOVE MONEY AROUND BETWEEN THOSE STATE CATEGORIES, SO THIS IS NOT A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THIS IS JUST A REQUEST TO MOVE FUNDING BETWEEN THOSE 14 DIFFERENCE. DATE CATEGORIES. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH AND WE'RE REQUESTING REALLY SEVEN

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CATEGORIES AND WE'RE PROJECTING AT THIS POINT THAT THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO BE OVER OR VERY , VERY CLOSE. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING IN THERE JUST IN CASE. UM THERE ARE, AS MISS JUDD SAID SOME UNFORESEEN EXPENDITURES THROUGH JUNE 30. THE FIRST ONE IS INSTRUCTIONAL SALARIES. RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTING THAT THAT CATEGORY WILL BE OVER ABOUT 1.5 MILLION WERE REQUESTING A TRANSFER OF $3 MILLION INTO THAT STATE CATEGORY. 103 CATEGORY.

SPECIAL EDUCATION. WE'RE PROJECTING THAT TO BE VERY, VERY CLOSE RIGHT ABOUT $83,000 TO THE GOOD RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT A 6 $52 MILLION CATEGORIES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING $500,000 TO BE TRANSFERRED INTO SPECIAL EDUCATION, STATE CATEGORY. 106 HEALTH SERVICES AGAIN. THAT ONE IS VERY, VERY CLOSE. WE'RE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF BEING EITHER RIGHT AT ZERO. OR MAYBE A COUPLE OF, UH 1000 OVER. WE'RE REQUESTING 200,000 PEOPLE PUT INTO STATE CATEGORY 108 HEALTH SERVICES. UM, TRANSPORTATION. WE'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW TO BE OVER JUST OVER $500,000. WE ARE ASKING FOR A TRANSFER OF $1 MILLION TO BE PUT INTO STATE CATEGORY. 109 TRANSPORTATION. UM THE NEXT THREE ON YOUR SHEET ARE REALLY UTILITIES. CAT STATE CATEGORY. 1 10. WE'RE ASKING FOR A MILLION DOLLARS TO BE ADDED TO OUR ELECTRICITY ACCOUNT 1.5 MILLION TO NATURAL GAS AND 500,000 TO OIL. WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE OVER JUST OVER $2 MILLION IN UTILITIES. AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, FROM UH, YOUR HOME AND THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BUSINESSES WE'VE SEEN INCREASE IN OUR UTILITIES COSTS OVER THE YEAR. THE NEXT CATEGORY IS 1 15 CAPITAL OUTLAY. WE REFUNDED OUR ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING. UM LAST YEAR, AND DURING THAT PROCESS, UM I DIDN'T MOVE FUNDS FROM INTEREST TO PRINCIPAL. SO WHEN WE FUNDED WE DROPPED THE INTEREST RATE FROM 2.4 TO 1.7 SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE PAYING MORE PRINCIPAL AND LESS INTEREST WITH THAT WHOLE THING HAPPENING IN THE SPRING, I NEGLECTED TO MOVE THE MONEY FROM INTEREST AND PRINCIPAL. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT $80,000 TO BE MOVED AT THIS POINT, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS STATE CATEGORY.

104 INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS. UM WE ARE ASKING FOR $900,000 TO BE ADDED TO OUR TEXTBOOK LINE THAT IS FOR A PILOT PROGRAM THAT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION APPROVED IN. MAY 22ND SPORT OF EDUCATION MEETING THE TWO ACCOUNTS THAT WILL THE WILL IN ONE STATE CATEGORIES USUALLY IS FIXED CHARGES. STATE CATEGORY 1 12 OUR HEALTH INSURANCE WERE ASKING FOR 808,600,000 TO BE.

SPREAD OUT BETWEEN THOSE CATEGORIES THAT I JUST MENTIONED ABOVE AND THEN, UH, DEBT SERVICE INTEREST A REDUCTION OF 80,000, WHICH WOULD BE MOVED INTO PRINCIPLE. SO WITH THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THANK YOU, MR CLARK. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND MISS JUDD FOR THE TIME THAT YOU CAME OVER AND VISITED WITH MYSELF, AND I'M SURE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BRING US UP TO SPEED WITH THE TRANSFERS. AND I DO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO COUNCILMAN ANY QUESTIONS? DONE A GOOD JOB MAY HAVE EMOTION. WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THIS TONIGHT. SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE INTER CATEGORY TRANSFERS. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU. MR PENMAN IS SECOND TO APPROVE THE INTER CATEGORY TRANSFERS THIS EVENING. ISRAELI DISCUSSION. MISS DIXON. SHE LEFT . OH, MR CARNEY. MR PRESIDENT. I GOT THREE. GIORDANO I RILEY DOES I. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE. THE REQUEST FOR INNER CATEGORIES. TRANSFERS ARE HEREBY APPROVED. YOUR DUCT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THE COUGH THROUGH THAT WILL CALL CROW CALLS OUT. UM. IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MOVE

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TO AGENDA NUMBER 17. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS MYSTICS AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO, MR PRESIDENT. WE HAVE FIVE THIS EVENING. JOHN MALAMBO, FOLLOWED BY BILL WHELAN. AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MR GUTHRIE. WELL STATED PRAYER. I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES VETERANS DAY IS 11 NOVEMBER. WE'LL BE WATCHING. SIR. GOOD EVENING TO

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YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES. JOHN PEMA LHAMO 24 02 EAGLE VIEW DRIVE. BELLAIRE, MARYLAND.

CHAPTER THREE WHEN THE CODE CANNOT BE IGNORED. DENY IT ON 18 JANUARY 2017. I REQUESTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE HARPER COUNTY AIRPORT LICENSE RENEWAL ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE FROM THE MARYLAND OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS WAS ASSIGNED TO THE CASE AMONG UNDISPUTED FACTS SUBMITTED IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES PROPOSED DECISION ON OCTOBER 11 2013 HARFORD COUNTY AIRPORT OWNERS GROUP AT ALL FILED AN APPLICATION. SEEKING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. OPERATED JOURNAL AVIATION AIRPORT. APRIL 16TH 2014 ZONING HEARING EXAMINER RECOMMENDED THAT THE REQUEST FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION BE GRANTED. 16 SEPTEMBER 2014. THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS RENDERED A FINAL DECISION RATIFYING AND ADOPTING ITS OWN THEY ZONING HEARING EXAMINERS. FINAL DECISION ON 14 APRIL 2015. THE CIRCUIT COURT OF HARFORD COUNTY ISSUED A WRITTEN OPINION AND ORDER WHICH AFFIRMED THE FINAL DECISION OF THE HARPER COUNTY COUNCIL BOARD OF APPEALS.

MARCH 1ST 2017, THE HARPER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING CONDUCTED A REVIEW OF THE ZONING STATUS OF THE HARPER COUNTY AIRPORT AND SENT A LETTER WITH THEIR FINDINGS TO KEVIN HESS, AIRPORT MANAGER FOR THE AIRPORT, HARFORD COUNTY AIRPORT . IN THAT CORRESPONDENCE DATED 1 MARCH, 2017, MR MILTON DE DAVENPORT'S STATED THE HARTFORD AIRPORT IS RECOGNIZED AS AN EXISTING NON CONFORMING USED THAT HAS BEEN IN CONTINUOUS OPERATION AS A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORTS SINCE 1941. AS OF THE DATE OF THIS LETTER, THERE ARE NO KNOWN ZONING VIOLATIONS OR CITATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY AND AMONG THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW. JUDGE'S FINDINGS SLASH ANALYSIS . BRADLEY AT KELLY IN THE DIRECTOR OF HARFORD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING EXERCISES AUTHORITY WHEN HE DETERMINED THAT THE HARPER COUNTY AIRPORT HAS BEEN GRANTED ALL LAND USE APPROVALS REQUIRED TO PERMIT THE RENEWAL OF ITS LICENSE. AND JURISDICTION OF THE M A. UNDER SECTION FIVE. THAT'S 204 OF THE TRANSPORTATION ARTICLE OF THE MARYLAND ANNOTATED CODE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE INDEPENDENT DETERMINATION BY THE M A OF LOCAL ZONING ISSUES.

IT IS THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY THAT ISSUES AIRPORT LAND UP, YOU USE APPROVABLE AND ON 23 MAY 2016 AND M. A REPRESENTATIVE PERSONALLY CONTACTED THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING, MR ANTHONY MCLUHAN TO CONFIRM THAT LAND USE APPROVAL FOR THE HARFORD COUNTY AIRPORT REMAINED VALID. NOW I WONDER WHO GAVE MR DAVENPORT'S AUTHORITY AND DISCRETION TO REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WRITTEN OPINION AND ORDER OF THE CIRCUIT COURT OF HARFORD COUNTY. GENTLEMEN MA'AM , THAT IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION THAT'S SERIOUS. IT'S TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, AND YOU SAY THIS IS AN F BOMB FRAUD. WHETHER SEAWARD CORRUPT. IF ANY OF YOU NEED ANY DOCUMENTATION TO SUBSTANTIATE MY COMMENTS, PLEASE DO CONTACT ME. IF ANY OF YOU BELIEVE THAT MY STATEMENTS ARE NOT TRUE. CONTACT ME WITH FACTS. GOODNIGHT. THE NEXT SPEAKER.

BILL WHELAN, FOLLOWED BY JANINE LOOK OR. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS GAME, PLEASE. BILL WHALEN, 4 15 CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD. BUILDER, MARYLAND 1 MAY 20/7. I SENT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND EMAIL RECOMMENDING LEGISLATIVE AMENDMENTS ZONING CODE. IT'S TO CLARIFY AND DEFINE THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE BORDER FUELS, WHICH IS THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION, MAINLY DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. PRESENTLY, THE LANGUAGE AND THE CODE, THE SUBJECT THE ONES INTERPRETATION AS TO ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH HAS CAUSED PAST LEGAL PROBLEMS. I WISH TO THANK MR RALEIGH, MISS. BOILED THE SADDLES FOR THE COURTESY OF RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL AND TO LOOK FURTHER INTO THE MATTER. I DON'T THINK I DO NOT INTEND TO GO INTO THE DETAILS BY EMAIL BECAUSE THE TIME LIMIT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SEVERAL WOULD POINTS THAT I DISCUSSED. IT'S NOT A NEW TOPIC TO THE ADMINISTRATION OR COUNCIL. THE LAW DEPARTMENT HAS INTERPRETED THE ZONING CODE THAT THE BOARD OF APPEALS DOES NOT HAVE. ANY ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS NOT OBLIGATED TO ENFORCE FINAL DECISIONS OF THE BOARD APPEALS AND PURSUIT OF ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OR POLICY LIFTED THE DISCRETION OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. THIS IS NOT DEFINED ANYWHERE IN HARFORD COUNTY COACH CHARTER OR ZONING CODE. I BELIEVED THE BOARD OF APPEALS HAS ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ZONING CASES WHERE THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING DOES NOTHING TO ENFORCE THE DECISION. WHAT HAS BEEN PROVEN BY FINDING OF FACTS AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW THAT THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING MADE AN

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OBVIOUS HERE IN HIS OR HER FINAL DETERMINATION? THIS IS A VIOLATION OF ALL DIRECTOR CANNOT BE JUDGED JURY AND EXECUTIONER. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THE CODE PROVIDES COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE LAND USE AND ZONING DECISIONS TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. IF SO, THERE'S NO NEED FOR A BOARD OF APPEALS. BILL 23, OR 23 CIVIL PENNY PENALTIES WAS INTRODUCED FROM MAY 9TH AS AN ACTION TO ENFORCE THE ZONING CODE THROUGH ISSUANCE AND ENFORCEMENT OF A CIVIL CITATION. IT ONLY PROVIDES FOR A COUNTY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OR AUTHORIZED DESIGNEE, COMPLETE AUTHORITY AND DISCRETION TO IMPOSE A FINE AN ISSUE CITATIONS. THERE IS NO RECOGNITION AND THE LEGAL STATUS OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS THEIR DECISIONS AND ENFORCEMENT. THAT BILL IS THE SUBJECT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NEXT WEEK, AND IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED. I WROTE A LETTER TO MR BLOMKVIST MAY 11TH MR VINCE SAID. YOU GOT A COPY AS WELL. AND I ALSO COPIED THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEADERS WANT TO SAME SUBJECT MATTER THAT'S RELATED TO CASE 59 22. I REQUESTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PHONE DISCUSSION. VERY POLITE LETTER TODAY. NO ONE HAS RESPONDED, AND CONCLUSION RECOMMEND COGNIZANT EXECUTIVE LEGISLATIVE PERSONNEL AND I SAID THIS, MR BLOMQUIST SPEED IN JULY OR AUGUST TO RESOLVE THE MATTER MODIFY THE CODE TO REMOVE THE AMBIGUITY. AND MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR AS TO THE EXACT POWER AND AUTHORITY AS IT RELATES TO ZONING DECISIONS THAT ENFORCEMENT. THIS WILL BE GOOD IN FUTURE ISSUES AND UNNECESSARY COSTS TO TAXPAYERS, WHICH HAS OCCURRED IN THE PAST. THANK YOU, AND I'D LIKE TO LEAVE A COPY WITH THANK YOU, MR WHELAN. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. EVENING JEANNINE LOCKE OR 18. 20 PARK BEACH DRIVE, PERRIMAN. AND UM, I SENT SOME INFORMATION TO YOU TODAY AND JUST WANT TO COMMENT TO A FEW OF THOSE, UM, PIECES IN THAT , UM AND BASICALLY AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN IN THE PERRIMAN, UM, COMMUNITY. UM WE JUST HAVE A HISTORY OF ACTIONS SIMPLY NOT BEING IMPLEMENTED, AND IT'S JUST CONTINUING TO HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UM, IN, UM AND ONE OF THEM. BAR MORE SUN ARTICLE IN, 2001 SAID. IT'S A SINK CLEAN, AND WE'RE STILL EXPERIENCING TODAY. HERE IN LIES THE PYRAMID PROBLEM FOR THE COUNTY, STATE AND COMMUNITY. THE STATE CAN'T AFFORD THE ROADS WHICH COST AT LEAST 1 150 MILLION TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SCALE OF GROWTH, AND WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH THAT TODAY. AND THAT ARTICLE WAS 2001. IN 2003 OF THE BUSH RIVER WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, WAS PUT FORTH FOR THE HARTFORD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS THAT WAS NOT IMPLEMENTED. IN 2006 POPULAR HILL, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BUILDINGS IN HARFORD COUNTY, UM FROM A HISTORIC PRESERVATION STANDPOINT , THAT BUILDING WAS ALLOWED TO BE DEMOLISHED. UM, FOR THE SAKE OF, UM IMPROVEMENT. UM, AS A LARGE FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION TERMINAL. IN 2007, THE HARPER COUNTY RURAL VILLAGES STUDY, WHICH WAS PREPARED BY THE HARFORD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING, DESIGNATED NINE RURAL VILLAGES IN THE COUNTY. ALL OF THOSE VILLAGES ARE LOCATED IN CHURCHVILLE OR NORTHWARD. THERE ARE NO COMMUNITY. UM, UH, RURAL VILLAGES. EVEN THOUGH THE PERRIMAN AREA HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM AND WAS ELIGIBLE IN 1993 AGAIN NOT IMPLEMENTED. AND ALSO AS WE WERE HEARING EARLIER. FROM THE PARKS AND REC AND ABOUT HARFORD NEXT. IN THE 2016 1 OF THE STATES. ONE OF THE 2016 REPORT FOR HARVARD. NEXT ONE OF THE STATED GOALS WAS TO CONCENTRATE PERVERT PRESERVED LAND AND RELATIVELY CONTIGUOUS BLACKS. AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE, UM, HUGE, CONTIGUOUS BLOCKS IN THE PYRAMID PENINSULA, UM, THAT ARE SIMPLY BEING IGNORED RELATIVE TO PRESERVATION. I'D ALSO LIKE I'D BE VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THE STATUS OF PARTNERS FIELD, WHICH IS IN THE PERRIMAN PENINSULA. UM MY CALLS TO THE HARFORD COUNTY PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE LOCAL BUSINESS THAT HAS DESIGNATED THAT PARK. NO ONE KNOWS THE PARK EVEN EXISTS. IT'S NOT LISTED ON THE HARPER COUNTY PARKS AND REC SITE. SO WHILE THAT PARK WAS IMPLEMENTED, IT'S NO LONGER IMPLEMENTED AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE DISAPPEARED. THAT WE CAN SEE THAT WIND. AGAIN WE CAN HAVE CONTINUED SAFETY CONCERNS ON THE ROADS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE

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HAVE THIS POSITION TO IN 2022 SPECIFIC ROAD VEHICLE HEIGHT MONITORING SYSTEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND AGAIN, PERRIMAN PENINSULA IS, UM BELOW THE COUNTY AND MEDIAN INCOME.

18% OF THE PYRAMID. FAMILIES LIVE IN POVERTY AND THE, UH PEOPLE OF COLOR COLOR IN THE COMMUNITY IS MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT HARFORD COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. RIGHT CLICK OR FOLLOWED BY RON SUSHINSKY. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS BLOCK OR 18 20 PARK BEACH DRIVE . WANT TO TAKE A DIFFERENT ANGLE ON THIS? UH MR MAHAMA JUST LEFT. HE DOESN'T DESERVE ANY ANY REPLY FROM YOU ALL. LATER ON. YOU ALL HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG. YOU ALL STAND UP FOR OUR SERVICEMEN. E.

M S EVERYBODY THE RESPECT THAT YOU SHOW TO THE UNITED STATES WITH THE SAYING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. EACH AND EVERY TIME WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MAN IS DOING AND PLEASE ON A LIGHTER SIDE. HE IS NOT PART OF THREE PICK WE DO NOT CONDONE IT. NOW I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO ITS SOMETHING THAT NOW THAT THE BUDGET IS SALE, I WANTED TO BRING UP WELCOME ONE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ON YOUR MIND. I DID ASK YOU TO WALK INTO SOME BUSSES JUST TO HELP THESE PEOPLE. I WAS OVER THERE AGAIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. THEY STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM TO GET OUT. AROUND 7 A.M. THEY HAVE NO NO WHERE TO GO. AND NO PLACE. NO AND NO ONE'S HELPING THEM. SO IF WE COULD LOOK INTO THIS YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING JOB MORE FOR ANY CORNER, BRINGING TO WHERE WE CAN HELP THESE PEOPLE WHETHER YOU KNOW, IT'S DECLINED CRISIS CENTER, IS IT? YOU KNOW, GETTING UP TO SOCIAL CARE? IT IS UNEMPLOYMENT . WHERE IS IT? THAT'S A STONE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THAT? SO PLEASE, JUST ON THAT, ED. I KNOW YOU DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE BUDGET. BUT PLEASE DON'T FORGET ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. THEY NEED YOUR HELP. I'LL CALL YOU TOMORROW. I'M RON IS NOT HERE. ANYONE ELSE? THERE'S NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK

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YOU. UM AGENDA. I DON'T NUMBER 16 COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM. MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT . PERSONALLY THANK THE COUNCIL OVERALL FOR THE HELP WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WE'RE NOW GONNA LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET A JOB DOWN. FINALLY. AND ALSO LIKE TO THANK TONY G AND AARON, UM, PENDANT FOR THEIR COMMENTS. BECAUSE THEY WERE HELPFUL IN THAT PROCESS. UM LET'S WEDNESDAYS THEN IT'D TELLING THE JOPPATOWNE HIGH SCHOOL COMMENCEMENT. IN THE END AT THE HARVARD COMMUNITY, COLLEGE. UH. THAT WE ATTEND A LOT OF THEM. THEY NEVER GET OLD WHEN YOU SEE THE YOUTH OF OUR COUNTY AND WHAT THEY CAN DO, AND THE EDUCATION THAT THEY GET, AND , UH UH, THE AMOUNT OF WHEN THEY ALWAYS READ OFF THE MOUNT OF MONEY THEY GET TO GO TO COLLEGES IS ALWAYS IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THAT THAT PARTICULAR CLASS GETS SO IT SO WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF ALL THAT. AH I DID TOUR WITH A PATH FOR SANTA AT TOWARDS THE MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH UM. ON FRIDAY, MAINLY JUST TO LOOK AT THE, UH UM, RELOCATED BALS OR IN THEIR CASE THERE. PERMANENT PERMANENT STRUCTURES IN AT THE MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT JUST TO THE COST OF THEM JUST MAINLY THE TRAILERS MORE THAN THE UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONES THAT DON'T RELOCATE THERE PERMANENTLY CAN UNDERSTAND THE COSTS OF THEM, BUT ALWAYS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TEACHERS RELOCATED BALLS. I HAD PROBLEMS WITH THEM. WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE , BUT THERE'S A LOT LESS. WE HAD 100 AND 20 OF MEN, AND WE WERE ABLE AFTER ALL THE CONSTRUCTION AND SCHOOLS WE BUILT AND REBUILT . WE DROPPED IT DOWN TO ABOUT NOW ABOUT 40. AH! BUT IT ALWAYS GETS ME WHEN THEY START TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY COST, LIKE 200 GRAND APIECE AND BUT THAT DON'T GET ME AS MUCH AS WHEN THEY HAVE TO MOVE ONE. FROM ONE SCHOOL TO THE OTHER TO BRING HER TRUCK IN THE HOOK IT UP. THEY TRAILER OVER TO ANOTHER LOCATION. AND THE COST $88,000 OR $82,000 TO DO THAT. I WANT I SAID, GEEZ, I'LL DO IT FOR HALF THAT. WELL, I JUST DON'T

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UNDERSTAND WHY THE COSTS THAT THEY ALWAYS HAVE REASONS. TRAILERS DON'T HAVE. ANY ANY BATHROOMS IN THEM ALL. THIS IS ELECTRIC FOR THE MOST PART AND EXCEPT FOR THE PERMANENT ONES ARE NOT ELECTRIC HAVE BATHROOMS IN THEM, BUT TRAILERS DON'T AND . AND THEN HE SAID, WELL, THEY GOT TO PUT IT ON A CONCRETE PANEL THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE CRAP CONCRETE PADS WENT , BUT THEY WERE ALL THERE BEFORE AND WHEN WE HAD 120 TRAILERS NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 40. ZONE THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR ME. I GUESS I'LL NEVER UNDERSTAND IT. AH! SORRY WE HAD A COUPLE EVENTS THAT WENT TO A COMMUNITY CLEAN UP AT 7 30 SATURDAY MORNING. HELLO CLAIMING, AND WESTSHORE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE AREA EXECUTIVE BOB CASSIE WAS THERE AND WE WALKED THE ENTIRE AREA, AND I'M SURPRISED IT ALWAYS TOWN WHOM BECKER'S ABOUT 400 THEM, AND EVERYONE LOOKED BETTER IN THE OTHER ONE. THEY TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THEIR HOMES THERE. AH BUT WE DID NOTICE HOW BAD THE STREETS WERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING THEM REPAID. FROM THERE . I WENT AT 9 A.M. AT TWO COMMUNITY CENTER. THAT WOULD, UH AND GIVE OUT A PROCLAMATION PROJECTS WOULD YOU WITH ME? AND WE PRESENTED HIM WITH A PROCLAMATION. UM THE FOR THE GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY. UM, IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. THE GUN VIOLENCE IS GETTING. NOT GETTING IT. IT IS TERRIBLE AND THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO ABOUT IT NATIONWIDE. UM, TO STOP ALL THIS KILLING HOPE IT HAPPENS IN OUR TIME PERIOD. UM HAD RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY AT WOODBRIDGE HEALTH CLINIC YESTERDAY, AND MOSTLY ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE THERE IT WAS INTERESTING. GLAD TO GO BACK TO THESE PLACES THAT I HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE. THEY'RE THERE, AND THEY DO A GREAT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THEM. UM. EDWARD JOB TOWN, EDGEWOOD COMMUNITY. UH, ADVISORY BOARD MET LAST NIGHT, ERIN AIR ADMINISTER FEMININE. ALWAYS COUNTS, AND WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HIM. UM. AND, UH, MEETINGS GO QUITE LONG BECAUSE WITH THE MERGED EDGEWOOD AND JOPPATOWNE INTO ONE MEETING, SO THEY ALWAYS RUN CLOSE TO THREE HOURS. UM, BUT. NOT EVERYBODY IS THERE AT THE END. IT STARTS AT THE BEGINNING. WELL, IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TRYING TO PROMOTE THAT. HE'S MEETINGS TOGETHER UNDER THE SAME ROOF. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MR PENMAN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. IN HONOR OF D DAY , I DO WANT TO THANK ALL THOSE SERVICE MEMBERS THAT LOST THEIR LIVES, UM, IN HONOR OF OUR FREEDOM. UM JUST A QUICK NOTE. ALSO I HAD THE HONOR OF MEETING WITH THE MARYLAND CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION CHAPTER 6 10, WHICH IS MADE UP OF WIDE RANGE OF COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO LEARN THEIR NEEDS AND PROCESS IN WHICH THEY NEGOTIATE FOR WAGES AND BENEFITS. AND I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR PEOPLE AND THE COUNTY AND LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THEIR ORGANIZATION IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT IS ALL I HAVE, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR PEMON, MR JANE JORDANA. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TENDED. BELLER GRADUATION WHERE I ATTENDED HIGH SCHOOL MATER. JUST A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED. I WASN'T ABLE TO SPEAK. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS. MY FIRST YEAR ON THE COUNCIL, I WAS ABLE TO ADDRESS THE STUDENTS AND WISH I COULD DO THAT AGAIN MEANS A LOT TO ME. SO ALSO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ALEX ON THE GRAND REOPENING OF COPPER MINE BELLER ATHLETIC CLUB. UM IT WAS THE SAME TIME AS BELLA GRADUATION. I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THAT. BUT MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, CAITLIN WAS THERE SO I WANT TO THANK ALEX AND THANK MARCH. UM LARGE IS THE 90 YEAR OLD LADY WHO MET ALEX COMING OUT OF THE UH, ATHLETIC CLUB AND SAID SHE REALLY NEEDED THIS CLUB WAS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT HIT HOME FOR HIM. SO THEY PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT LOOKS GREAT. SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO STOP IN SO I'M GLAD I'M BACK AS A MEMBER MYSELF . COUNCILMAN RILEY COUNCILMAN PENDANT DID A SOFT OPENING FOR LATITUDE SEAFOOD IN THE FESTIVAL, BELLAIRE, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM, AND, UH , LOOKING FORWARD TO THEM GETTING THEIR LIQUOR RELATIONS AND MAYBE DOING SOMETHING ELSE, UM, ALSO ATTENDED THE NEW. FACILITY FOR REFLECTED IMAGES UP IN FOREST HILL. THEY HAD A LOT OF VENDORS, A LOT OF HIGH END CARS FOR ARI'S LAMBORGHINIS, ASTON MARTINS, UM OUT THERE THAT HE DOES THE CUSTOM DETAILING ON THAT CERAMIC COATING EVERYTHING , SO HE HAD QUITE A BIG TURNOUT.

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UM AND THEN MAN OF LIFE HEALTH OPENING CONGRATULATIONS FOR THEM AND CONGRATULATE JUSTIN NAYLOR FOR AS AN EAGLE SCOUT. AND FINALLY, I HAD A RIBBON ON HERE TONIGHT AND IT IT FELL OFF, AND IT WAS LADYBUGS. AND UM, ONE OF MY SISTERS, NURSES WHO TOOK CARE OF MY NIECE, AMANDA, WHO DIED IN, UH 4001. SHE WAS HANDICAPPED, AND THEY TOOK CARE OF HER FOR 10 YEARS. UM, SHE PASSED AWAY LAST WEEK. SHE HAD MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS. UM SHE WAS A GREAT WIFE, GREAT MOTHER, GREAT GRANDMOTHER, AND HER LOSS IS. LITTLE HARD TO TAKE. SO I WANT TO THANK WITH YOUR FAMILY. THE BEST. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR LEANDRO. NANA MR. RILEY SUNDOWN . CONGRATULATIONS TO, UH TO EAGLE SCOUTS. OVER THE WEEKEND, JAMES CROWLEY AND ODIN WOODS FROM TROOP 8 11 ALSO THANK YOU TO KEVIN AND SEAN, WHO HAD AN OPEN HOUSE AT THE HARFORD COUNTY AIRPORT AIRPORT AND ME AND MY WIFE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT YOU CAN GET MAKING TECH NEXT YEAR.

IT'S AN EXCELLENT DAY. ALSO WANT TO LET THE FOLKS KNOW AND DISTRICT D THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE IN THE BRIDGE OVER MARYLAND, 1 61 OVER DEER CREEK, SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THEM.

CLOSING THAT BRIDGE DOWN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. MASSAD ALS. THANK YOU. UM WHILE I'M PLEASED TO SEE NEGOTIATION AND COMPROMISE IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, UM I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE MY DISPLEASURE THAT THE HARTFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE CENTRAL PRECINCT AND TRAINING CENTER HAS BEEN CUT. UM DESPITE PAST PROMISES, IT WOULD BE BUILT AND THIS COUNTY HAS ALREADY COMMITTED FUNDS AND PUT OUT BONDS FOR THE PROJECT. IT'S VITAL TO THE CITIZENS IN MY DISTRICT, BUT THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, AND I RAN MY CAMPAIGN ON PUBLIC SAFETY, AND I'LL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS TRAINING CENTER. AND WITH THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISSILES, MR BENNETT. HELLO UM, IS VERY BUSY WEEK GOT TO GO TO THE GRAND OPENING OF TECH SEX TECHNOLOGIES. I WAS THERE WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND SENT HIS WIFE AND WITH COUNCILMAN TONY G. AND THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN. AND IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. UM, I ALSO GOT TO GO TO THE WELCOME RECEPTION FOR THE PRIDE OF BALTIMORE TO WHICH CAME TO HAVE ANY GREASE AND IT WAS A LOT OF FUN TO MEET THE CREW AND HEAR THEIR STORIES AND ALSO GET TO GO SEE THE BOAT AND ALRIGHT. I THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO CALL THE SHIP. I DON'T WANT TO BE RUDE TO THE SHIP BY CALLING IT A BOAT. UM BUT IT WAS THAT WAS ALSO A LOT OF FUN. HAVING THE GRACE HIGH SCHOOL HAS GRADUATION, WHICH WAS A WONDERFUL CEREMONY. UM I GOT TO SEE SO MANY BIG SIBLINGS OF FORMER STUDENTS. NEIGHBORS UM, AND THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN. THAT WE HAD FIRST FRIDAYS, WHICH WAS ALSO ENJOYABLE. YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH WE HAD A MOTORCYCLE AT FIRST FRIDAYS THIS MONTH. WE HAD THE PRIDE OF BALTIMORE. SO I DID ASK THE MAYOR. WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE AN AIRPLANE IN JULY? YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION THAT SHOWS UP.

WAITING TO FIND THAT OUT. THEN SATURDAY WAS VERY BUSY WENT TO THE MOMS DEMAND ACTION COMMUNITY CLEANUP, WHERE AN ORANGE WITH COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE, UM AND CELEBRATE THEIR EFFORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WONDERFUL HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS COME OUT AND SUPPORT THEIR WORK? I ALSO WENT TO THE ASKED ME 60 SEVEN'S MEETING ON SATURDAY MORNING ASKED ME 67 REPRESENTS OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS EMPLOYEES. WHO ARE NOT INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF. THAT WOULD BE OUR CAFETERIA WORKERS ARE, UM CUSTODIAL STAFF ARE MAINTENANCE WORKERS ARE BUS DRIVERS, UM, AND JUST TO SPEAK WITH THEM AND KNOW THEIR NEED AND NO. UM YOU KNOW THEIR STRUGGLES, IT WAS IMPORTANT AND TOUGH CONVERSATION. AND THEN RAN OFF THIS SATURDAY. I HAD THREE OUTFIT CHANGES, UM, TO THE WEIGHT IN FESTIVAL AT THE ESTUARY CENTER, WHERE WE LITERALLY WAITED IN ABBY AND I STOOD IN THE WATER GOT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING OUT AND FEELING YOUR YOU KNOW YOUR ENVIRONMENT KNOWING YOUR ENVIRONMENT OUTSIDE OF A TEXTBOOK, BUT IN YOUR HANDS IN BETWEEN YOUR TOES TO MAKE IT PERSONAL SET. IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN TAKING CARE OF YOURSELF. WHEN YOU TAKE CARE OF YOUR ENVIRONMENT IS THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND THEN FINISHED THE DAY. UM, AND THIS IS WHERE ONE OF HIS OUTFIT CHANGES CAME IN BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THE EAGLE SCOUT CEREMONY SOGGY WITH MY WAITING CLOSE. AH WE GOT TO GO TO JUSTIN'S EAGLE SCOUT CEREMONY OF TRUTH. 3 13, YOU KNOW IT'S OUTSIDE MY DISTRICT BUT AS AN EAGLE SCOUT MYSELF, 10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR OF THAT, UM, I JUST ALWAYS THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CELEBRATE JUST THE AMOUNT OF WORK IT TAKES TO GET THERE. UM AND YOU KNOW, IT'S

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JUST AN INCREDIBLE FEAT. JUSTIN DID A LOT FASTER THAN I DID BECAUSE MY EAGLE SCOUT CEREMONY CAME TWO DAYS BEFORE MY 18TH BIRTHDAY. YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT THAT'S WHY MY DAD HAS GRAY HAIR. BUT UM UH, THAT'S EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN UP TO. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT NEXT WEEKEND IS THE MAGIC OF SCIENCE FAIR AND FESTIVAL. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO OPTED IN TO DO SOMETHING BEYOND THEIR SCHOOL DAY AND PREPARE SCIENCE PROJECT , UM IN A COMPETITION AND ALSO ENJOY THE SCIENCE FAIR ITSELF.

UM ONE OF MY STUDENTS IS IN THE COMPETITION, WHICH IS REALLY NEAT, BUT IT SHOULD BE A FUN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL FAMILIES TO PARTAKE IN AND ENJOY SOMETHING ON A SATURDAY. THAT'S EVERYTHING

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FOR ME. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. UM 15 BUSINESS FROM THE PRESIDENT. UM I HAVE TO ADVERTISE THE ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETING AGAIN. JUNE 21ST. OF 4 30 PM SECOND FLOOR COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. UM AND THEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS OF OBVIOUSLY ON GRADUATIONS. UH WE ATTENDED EVERY GRADUATION IN THE COUNTY AMONGST EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS. AT SOME POINT THERE WAS TWO A DAY. UM, BUT I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO SEE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER AT A GRADUATION AT SOME POINT IN TIME THEY ATTENDED AS MANY AS THEY COULD WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT AND THEN ALSO, THEY ARE LIMITED. I THINK TO TWO OR THREE, I THINK, UM, BUT IT WAS VERY PLEASED. THE KIDS ARE FANTASTIC. GOT TO SEE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FAMILIAR FACES THAT WE WATCHED GROW UP OVER THE LAST 789 YEARS AND WATCH THEM GRADUATE. SO IT WAS REALLY, REALLY A PLEASURE TO SEE THAT AND THEN THIS MORNING WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND HIGHER DEGREES. HIGH SCHOOLS GOVERNMENTAL BREAKFAST, WHERE SOME OF THE STUDENTS HAD DIFFERENT. UH PROJECTS THAT THEY HAD UP ASKING, SAW SORTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER TERM LIMITS OR OTHER THINGS SO ENVIRONMENT, CLIMATE CONTROL, DIFFERENT PROJECTS LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED, AND I WAS PLEASED TO BE THERE. AND WITH THAT WE'LL GO

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