Jun 13, 2023 County Council

[a. Resolution 033-23 (Bel Air Annexation Zoning Waiver)]

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EVENING CHAIR CALLS ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION 0 33-23 BELLER ANNEXATION ZONING WAIVER.

UM MR JANE GIORDANO. WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR SPEAKER. WE NEED TO KNOW IF YOUR DOCTOR YEAH . UH MR SWEENEY? YES TURNING, UM, BEL AIR. SO I THINK WORKING ON EVERYTHING FROM. LAND USED TO REZONING AND THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT I GUESS WAS HAD SOME OLD HOUSES ON IT THAT WERE CONDEMNED A LONG TIME AGO, FINALLY DEMOLISHED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. THAT'S CORRECT, COUNCILMAN. GOOD EVENING, MR PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL JOSEPH FRANCIS NEED JUNIOR. 1 12 SOUTH MAIN STREET FELONY OR 2 10 14. 13 22 GRAFT AND SHOP ROAD, BEL AIR MARYLAND AND UNIT 105 NO 502 133RD STREET, OCEAN CITY, MARYLAND. THE RECORD. WITH ME IS MY PARALEGAL EXTRAORDINAIRE. MEGHAN SHELDON. MY LEFT IS MY CO COUNSEL IS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ELIZABETH H. THOMPSON STARTING KEENAN P. A TOWN COUNCILOR FOR THE TOWN OF BEL AIR, 30 OFFICE STREET, BEL AIR MARYLAND, 2114. THANK YOU, LIZ. THIS IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 033-23. WE HAVE THE GOOD, CRUEL IMAGE REPRESENTING GARY RISLING AND HIS WIFE, JOAN. THREE ENTITIES ARE KNOWN AS THREE OR FOUR SOUTH TOKYO ROAD LLC, REAL WEIGHT AND 3 10 AND THEN BELLAIRE SQUARE LLC, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO OUR POWER POINT PRESENTATION IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL, MR PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE START WITH PERSONAL 19 IN THE PETITION. WE IDENTIFIED IT AS PARCEL A IT'S THREE OR FOUR SOUTH TOLLGATE ROAD. APPROXIMATELY 0.83 ACRES. AND IT'S 304 SOUTH TOLLGATE ROAD. AS PART OF THE SILVER SPRING HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, HENCE.

SILVER SPRING MINING STATION IS THE REASON FOR THE NAME OF MR WRESTLING'S RESTAURANT.

IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT. IS PARCEL 6 59. UM IT IS IDENTIFIED AS MAP 49 COURSES 59. THREE WEEKS SOUTH TOLLGATE ROAD IT'S ABOUT 42,000 SQUARE FEET. AND IT WAS PART OF THE PLANET PREMISES AS WELL.

IMMEDIATELY DOWNHILL FROM THAT IS PARCEL 3 81. 3 10 SOUTH TOLLGATE ROAD. IT'S 77 BY 300.

AND AS COUNCILMAN TONY G. POINTED OUT. THEY USED TO BE OCCUPIED BY HOMES THAT WERE RUN DOWN AND THEY WERE RAISED BY MR AND MRS WHISTLING SO THEY ARE VACANT PROPERTIES AS THEY CONSTITUTED TODAY. SO PARCEL D. IS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S OWNED BY BEL AIR SQUARE. L L. C THIS IS THE TOLLGATE MARKETPLACE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ANOMALY, AND MISS THOMPSON PROBABLY HAS A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAN I DO. BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE'S A SLIVER. THAT WAS NEVER ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN OF BEL AIR. UM AND IT ACTUALLY RUNS FROM WHERE THE BANK IS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TOLLGATE MARKETPLACE. WE ARE JUST ANNEXING IN TO THE EXTENT WE NEED TO WRITE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE THREE PARCELS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED. IN YELLOW THAT I JUST WENT THROUGH IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTIGUOUS TO THE TOWN, AS THE STATUTE REQUIRES, IN THE INITATIVE GO TO MARYLAND FOR ANNEXATION REQUESTS . IT'S KNOWN AS MATH 304 PARCEL TO 50. IT'S 6 15 BALTIMORE PIKE. I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT THEM. AS MR PRESIDENT. THE COUNCIL MAY KNOW, UH, THE DICKS EDITION IS BEING PUT ON THERE AND I REPRESENT THEM AND THEY JOINED IN OUR PETITION REQUESTING ANNEXATION. SO THE NEXT MAP, MS SHELTON JUST BROUGHT UP OR PARCELS A, B AND C. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE KNOWN AS THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION WITH THE TOWN OF

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THERE'S VERY FEW ANNEXATION POSSIBILITIES ANYMORE, SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN TO ADD SOME TAX BASE TO ITS TAX ROLLS. THIS IS SLATED TO BE A CLIMATE CONTROLLED MINI STORAGE FACILITY. AH STATE OF THE ART AND THE REALLY GOOD NEWS ON THAT IS YOU DON'T ADD TRAFFIC.

BECAUSE IF ANYBODY HAS MANY STORAGE WHICH I DO. IT'S ONE TIME IN AND USUALLY ONE TIME OUT , AND YOU'RE DONE. SO UH, THERE'S NO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY. IT'S ALL YOU KNOW, SELF CONTAINED. IT WILL BE STATE OF THE ART FENCED SECURITY CAMERAS, PERSON ON STAFF TO WATCH IT. LANDSCAPE BUFFERED. WE'VE TALKED WITH ALL OUR NEIGHBORS. UH BECAUSE THERE IS RESIDENTIAL AROUND US, AND WE HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FROM FROM ANY CITIZENS THAT I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW. AH WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS SECTION 4-416. WHICH IS OUT OF THE MARYLAND CODE, WHICH REQUIRES THE WAIVER , UH IN ORDER FOR US TO AVAIL OURSELVES OF THE B THREE ZONING IN BEL AIR. IT'S CURRENTLY BE TWO IN HARTFORD COUNTY. AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THIS MANY TIMES. WITHOUT THE WAIVER. WE CANNOT USE THE B THREE ZONING IN BEL AIR FOR FIVE YEARS. SO IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ME. TO GET THE B THREE ZONING REALLY SOON RATHER THAN WAITING FIVE YEARS IN ORDER FOR US TO BUILD THE FACILITY, AND WE NEED THE B THREE ZONING IN BEL AIR.

IT'S PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED THEN IN BEL AIR IF WE HAVE THE B THREE ZONING. SO THE NEXT SLIDE , YOU SEE PARCELS A, B, C AND D . IT'S 2.6 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS BE TO COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICT IN THE COUNTY B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IN IN THE TOWN, WHICH THE TOWN HAS GRACIOUSLY APPROVED. AND YOU CAN SEE THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE PARCELS OF THAT'S BEFORE THE HOMES WERE RAZED. SO THIS IS THE PERMITTED USE CHART IN THE TOWN OF BEL AIR UNDER IT, ZONING CODE. AND HIGHLIGHTED AS THE B THREE B THREE A AT THE TOP AND JUMPING DOWN TOO MANY STORAGE ON THE LEFT HIGHLIGHTED AND YELLOW AND ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT USES PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED. IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT. YOU'LL NOTE NEXT. A LETTER TO MR KEVIN SMALL , WHO'S DIRECTOR OF PLANNING IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE TOWN OF BEL AIR. THAT IS, IN FACT, FROM MR GRIMM, SEATED BEHIND ME, SAYING THAT WE NEED THE WAIVER IN ORDER TO USE OUR NEW ZONING CLASSIFICATION. AND, UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TOWARDS THE BOTTOM.

THE HARVARD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, DOES NOT OPPOSED THE ANNEXATION. AND FOR THAT MATTER, THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION AS WELL. THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING. LETTER DATED FEBRUARY, 22. 2023 WHICH WENT TO THE MAYOR BIANCA, AND IT'S IT SAID THE SAME THING. SO THE TOWN TOLD US WE HAD TO HAVE A WAIVER AND MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING SAID THE SAME THINGS THAT WERE YEAH. HONORED TO BE HERE TO MAKE THAT ASK FROM THE

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MOUNT FELIX THE IONELA PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF HABIT OF GRACE BACK IN 2014. THE SEABIRD ANNEXATION BACK IN 2019. UM, PRESBYTERIAN, HOME OF MARYLAND. UM SO THAT WAS. THAT WAS THE SMALL NINE ACRE PIECE. ON A LONG DRIVE BACK IN 2022. AH LAMPS AND PROPERTY. JUNE 16 2022. UH BLACK FULLY MANNER ALSO DOING BUSINESS AT WETLANDS GOLF COURSE 2021. AND THEN IT COMES TO THE RESOLUTION, WHICH OPENED THE HEARING, WHICH IS RESOLUTION 033-23. WHICH. IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL. UH WE DO HAVE A COUPLE HICCUPS THAT ARE GOING TO REQUIRE WORKING WITH MR CARNEY A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS, BUT I'M HAVING. MS THOMPSON ELABORATE ON THOSE THANK YOU, MR CITY. UM ATTACHED TO YOUR PACKAGES. EXHIBIT B IS ANNEXATION AGREEMENT ENTERED INTO BETWEEN THE APPLICANTS, UM, DATED MARCH 22ND 2023 THEN ANNEXATION. UM AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF BEL AIR. UM THE TOWN AGREED TO COOPERATE IN THIS WAIVER PROCEEDING WITH RESPECT TO THE SPECIFIC LOTS. UM 304308 AND 3 10 SOUTH TILL GATE ROAD. THESE LIVER PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AS PART OF THEIR TOWN CENTER WAS NOT A PART OF THAT ANNEXATION AGREEMENT. SO ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN AND REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO REMOVE ANY REFERENCE TO PART OF 615 BALTIMORE PIKE, BEL AIR MARYLAND AS PART OF THE COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION, UM, ALSO, UM, IN REVIEWING THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, UM, WE DIDN'T NOTICE THAT IN THE LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE ON THE FIRST ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE RESOLUTION, IT REFERENCES THAT THESE LOTS HAD BEGUN IN THE COUNTY AS GENERAL INDUSTRIAL WHICH IS INCORRECT. WE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS TO CHANGE THAT TO COMMUNITY BUSINESS BEAT YOU IS WHAT THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION HAD BEGUN AS THE COUNTY AND THE REFERENCES TO THE TOWN'S B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS CORRECT. UM AS FAR AS THE SLIVER AND FAMILY AGAIN IT'S NOT PART OF THIS WAIVER PROCEEDING ON BOTH THE TOWN BELIEVES THAT IT WAS EITHER AN ERROR IN THE SURVEYING, UM WAY BACK WHEN, WHEN SERVING EQUIPMENT WASN'T AS TECHNICAL AND SPECIFIC AS IT IS NOW, OR SOME SORT OF RIGHT AWAY ADJUSTMENT. UM AS THE COUNTY OWNS THE BED OF SOUTH TAILGATE ROLLED ON THE TOWN OF BEL AIR, AS PART OF THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WILL BE REQUESTING THE COUNTY TO CONSENT TO THE TOWN, ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 300 FT OF SOUTH TOLLGATE ROAD AT A LATER DATE IN ORDER TO LOCK THESE TWO PIECES TOGETHER AND KEEP EVERYTHING CONTINUOUS AND ADJOINING AS REQUIRED UNDER MARYLAND LAW. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, MR PRESIDENT OF, UH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH COUNSEL. AND MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE TAKING CARE OF MY AMENDMENT. AND WITH THAT WE WOULD CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION. MR CARNEY. I ALREADY HAVE THE INFORMATION AND I STARTED DRAFTING THE MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? MR JAN JORDANA. THANK YOU, MR SWEENEY. UM I KNOW THERE'S BUILDINGS WERE THERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. THEY PROBABLY AN EYESORE FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS . I'VE HEARD PEOPLE COMPLAIN

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I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT LOOKS PROMISING FOR SURE. NOT SEE IF I OKAY? I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER TO THAT. LET ME I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR JAN FERDINAND, MR BENNETT. UM MY QUESTION IS MOSTLY PROCEDURAL. JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU PRESENTED IN THAT IT HAS TO BE CONTINUOUS IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE PERMITTED BY STATE LAW. HOW ARE WE DOING THIS PORTION FIRST, AND THEN THE CONNECTING PIECE LATER, LIKE WHEN THAT MAKE IT NON CONTIGUOUS FOR THE TIME BEING, UM, SESSION. SHOULD WE MOVE ON THE PIECE THAT CONNECTS IT FIRST , AND THEN THESE THREE PARCELS OF LAND. IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, COUNSELOR BENNETT AND I WILL TELL YOU EXCEPT FOR ONE ANNEXATION IN THE CITY OF ABERDEEN. I'VE DONE IT EVERY SINGLE ONE SINCE THE LONG PROPERTY WHERE RIPPING STADIUM IS AND I USE THE TERM. WE JUMP ROADBEDS. WE DO IT ALL THE TIME. AND YOUR NOTE. IN THE CITY OF ABERDEEN THAT SOME PARTS ARE COUNTY OWNED, BUT WE'VE JUMPED THEM FROM SIDE TO SIDE ANNEX PROPERTIES. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION , YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT FROM A PURELY LEGAL POINT OF VIEW. SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. THE TOWN HAS RAISED THAT WITH ME. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD LEGAL POSITION IN ORDER TO GET THIS DONE, BUT I YOU'RE VERY ASTUTE IN THAT QUESTION. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT WE'RE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO. UM JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE A POINT OF SPECIFICALLY SHARING THAT AND THEN ALSO SHARING HOW WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DOING THAT FOR A TEMPORARY PERIOD OF TIME, BUT STILL FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. GOOD TO THAT, UM, THERE'S JUST BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF DELAY A AND, UM, MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESOLUTION WAS NOT SUBJECT TO ANNEXATION WAS FINALIZED. UM, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY EXPENDED THE FUNDS BECAUSE THIS OUR AGREEMENT WAS CONDITIONED UPON THE FINALIZATION OF THE TOWN OF BEL AIR'S EXCUSE ME ANNEXATION.

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THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION 0 33 23 AND WILL TAKE IT UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT , MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

[b. Resolution 034-23 (Public Necessity-Bel Air South Condemnation)]

GOOD EVENING, SIR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOSEPH C. MAC. I'M DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR HARFORD COUNTY TO 12 SOUTH BOND STREET, BELLAIRE TO 10 14. OVER THE PAST 20 PLUS YEARS, HARFORD COUNTY HAS CONSTRUCTED EIGHT ROUNDABOUTS ALONG TOLLGATE ROAD. THIS SERIES OF ROUNDABOUTS HAS ALLOWED FOR OVER FIVE MILES OF UNINTERRUPTED TRAFFIC TO TRAVEL BETWEEN BALTIMORE PIKE AT THE HARFORD MALL AND CONSTANT FRIENDSHIP WITH NO RED LIGHTS. OR STOP ZONE. ROUNDABOUTS ARE KNOWN TO REDUCE ACCIDENTS, SLOW SPEEDS AND IMPROVED TRAFFIC CIRCULATION. BY ELIMINATING TURNING MOVEMENTS AND REDUCING QUEUING BACKUPS OF VEHICLES WAITING TO ENTER INTERSECTIONS.

OUR NINTH ROUND ABOUT ONE TOLLGATE ROAD HAS BEEN DESIGNED AT THE INTERSECTION OF BEL AIR SOUTH PARKWAY AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE BILL. AIR SOUTH COMMUNITIES PRIVATE ENTRANCE ROAD. HOWEVER IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE ROUNDABOUT, THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO ACQUIRE EASEMENTS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, BELLAIRE SOUTH COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION SOUTH INC . FOR PERMANENT DRAINAGE UTILITY , ROAD IMPROVEMENT AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT EASEMENTS. AND TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ACCESS EASEMENTS. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY ACQUISITION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY OR INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AWAY. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. THE HIGHWAY ENGINEERING STAFF OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND WORKING WITH THEM TO OBTAIN A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF SIGNATURES. FROM MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF THE TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EASEMENTS. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS, REPEATED PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS AND MULTIPLE LETTERS HAVE BEEN SENT, BUT WE'VE BEEN UNABLE TO COME TO TERMS WITH THE ASSOCIATION. AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN VERY POSITIVE WITH THE OFFICERS OF THE ASSOCIATION. HOWEVER AS WE UNDERSTAND IT THERE BYLAWS REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF OWNERS IN ORDER TO APPROVE ANY PROPERTY RIGHT OR EASEMENT,

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AND IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ACQUIRE THE TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EASEMENTS REQUIRED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. MR JAMES BANANA ? YES SIR. MISTER CEE MACK. THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION ON THAT. UM I KNOW 20 YEARS AGO. I GUESS JEFF STRANDED. MEYER STARTED THE ROUNDABOUT PROJECTS IN AND AROUND BEL AIR BEING A FORMER RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY RAN ABOUT HER ARE COMMON SIGHT, USUALLY TWO LANES , WHICH IS MUCH DIFFERENT FROM OUR ROUNDABOUTS WITH ONE LANE, SO NAVIGATING A TWO LANE ROUNDABOUT IS DARWIN EXPERIENCE FOR SOMEBODY WHO WHO DOESN'T HAVE AN IDEA, AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA. IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT NOW WHERE YOU'VE GOT THAT ROAD. ALL THAT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UM, ALL THE WAY INTO BEL AIR WITH THE APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING. SO IT'S A IT'S A MUCH BUSIER INTERSECTION THAN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO OR EVEN 20 YEARS AGO. SO, UM THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT THEY CAN'T GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER TO AGREE ON ON THIS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR SAFETY. UM I GUESS THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I KNOW I STILL GO AROUND SOMEBODY'S CIRCLES AND YOU'RE STILL ALMOST HAVE SOME ACCIDENT , SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU GUYS SEE THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE MADE ON IN SOMEBODY'S ROUNDABOUTS, MOVING FORWARD OR IF IT'S JUST STATUS QUO, SO IT'S NOT SATIS QUO AT ALL. AND THANKS TO JESTER ADMIRES, YOU SAID WHO WAS SOMEWHAT OF A PIONEER, NOT JUST WITH HARFORD COUNTY BUT ALSO STATEWIDE. HE WAS RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE LEADING SUBJECT MATTER. EXPERTS ON ROUNDABOUTS, AT LEAST AROUND HERE. AND THE BEST PRACTICES ARE EVOLVING CONSTANTLY BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING MORE POPULAR FOR THE FOR THE POSITIVE BENEFITS THEY DO BRING . SO OUR CURRENT BANK OF ENGINEERS, INCLUDING GLENN HUBBLE, WHO SENDS HIS REGRETS THAT HE IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE, HE'S GOT A FAMILY ISSUE AT HOME . BUT UM WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO COMPLY WITH NOT ONLY THIS STANDARDS IN THE CODES BUT ALSO BEST PRACTICES TO AVOID THE TYPE OF SITUATIONS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY, UH, ANYTHING IN THE BEST PRACTICES WHERE AS SOMEBODY IS, IS COMING UP TO ENTER CIRCLE. MAYBE THE OTHER PERSON SEES A FLASHING LIGHT OR SOME SOMETHING BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES WHERE I'VE COME ACROSS IN. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING DOWN THE OTHER THE OTHER WAY, AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHO GETS THERE FIRST IS HOW THEY THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT AWAY. SO ON. UNFORTUNATELY THAT FACTOR OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR. ONE ROADS.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ALL TOO COMMON, UH, THE IDEA OF INCLUDING FLASHING LIGHTS OF ANY KIND, TYPICALLY IN A ROUNDABOUT IS DISCOURAGED. THERE'S A LOT TO KEEP AN EYE ON. THERE'S A LOT TO WATCH, ALTHOUGH IT'S SAFER THAN YOU KNOW YOU'RE AVOIDING THE T BONE TYPE OF CRASHES, HOWEVER, ADDING LIGHTS CAN BE DISTRACTING TO AT LEAST A FEW THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON. SO THEY ARE GENERALLY DISCOURAGED WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS ON A ROUNDABOUT, CAN ANYBODY TELL ME THAT? WHAT IMPROVEMENTS, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GET GLENN HUBBLE OR ONE OF OUR HIGHWAY ENGINEER EXPERTS TO BE ABLE TO FILL YOU IN ON SOME OF THOSE DETAILS WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JOE. HOW MUCH GROUND ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? HOW MUCH GROUND DO YOU NEED THERE? AH! ON THE ORDER OF. ABOUT A THIRD OF AN ACRE TOTAL, A THIRD OF A NEW I HAVE 1828 SQUARE FEET OR 0.042 ACRES. THAT'S FOR THE. DRAINAGE AND UTILITY AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT EASEMENT. THERE'S ANOTHER 0.148 ACRES AND ANOTHER POINT. 53 ACRES AND ANOTHER 0.07 , SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF IT'S IN FOUR DIFFERENT STRIPS. 2300 SQUARE FEET 6400 SQUARE FEET AND THEN THE 1800 SQUARE FEET. INCLUDING THE DRAINAGE. THAT'S THE. THREE AND THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT IS 3026. THERE'S FOUR TOTAL THEREFORE, BUT THEN THAT TEMPORARY EASEMENT

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TURN TO GO DOWN. MAGNOLIA UH, MIDDLE TO SEE MY GRANDSON PLAY BALL, AND I'M SITTING THERE WAITING TO TURN LEFT AND I'M LOOKING UP ON REAR VIEW MIRROR. HERE COMES A CAR, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN'T MOVE. THIS CAR IS COMING THIS WAY THERE BEHIND ME. I CAN'T MOVE ON ALL I DO. I SEE.

THE HAIR OF THIS LADY DRIVING BECAUSE SHE'S DOWN HERE DOING SOMETHING AND I SAID, OH, MY GOD , I'M GETTING SHE PLOWED RIGHT INTO ME AND THEY PUT AROUND ABOUT THERE BECAUSE OF THAT THOSE ACCIDENTS WERE HAVING THEIR SINCE THEY PUT THAT ROUND ABOUT THERE. THEY HAVE NOT HAD AN ACCIDENT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. ANYONE ELSE? DO YOU HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO, MR PRESIDENT, WE HAVE ONE BILL WHELAN. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. FOR 15 SUITOR SPRINGS ROAD, MILLER, MARYLAND. I LIVE WITHIN 3/10 OF THIS PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT I FULLY SUPPORTED. AH AND IMPROVING THE PUBLIC NECESSITY BEFORE THEY NEED A CONSTRUCTION OF A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT TOLLGATE AND SOUTH PARKWAY. I KNOW OF AT LEAST 10 YEARS OR MORE. THIS WAS NEEDED AFTER TOLLGATE ROAD SOUTH WAS EXTENDED FROM PLUMTREE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AVANTI APARTMENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE 95. FRANKLY I WAS UNAWARE OF THE PROBLEMS. THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS HEAD GETTING APPROVAL FROM BEL AIR SOUTH, THE TRANSFER THE TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT ESSENCE. IF ANYTHING, IT'S GOING TO HELP THEM HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING OUT OF THERE IF YOU TRAVEL IN BEL AIR SOUTH PARKWAY TOWARDS TOLLGATE ROAD, WHICH MANY VEHICLES NOW DO. TO GO NORTH OR SOUTH ON TOLLGATE ROAD, YOU WILL REALLY SEE THE DANGERS OF VEHICLES TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT OR RIGHTS ON THE TOLL GATE. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR VEHICLES OR NEED TO MAKE A LEFT TURN FROM TOLLGATE TO GET 12 SOUTH PARKWAY. MR GODFREY AND INTO YOUR COMBAT, THERE'S ALWAYS IDIOTS OUT ON THE ROADS ALL THE TIME ARE REALLY

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IT'S GREAT. SO ACQUIRING THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTING THE ROUNDABOUT. IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PUBLIC, AND THE BILL SHOULD BE APPROVED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? MORE SPEAKERS ? MR PRESIDENT WILL GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON RESOLUTION 0 34 23 AND WILL BE TAKEN UP. THANK YOU, MR SEAMAN. NEXT IS BILL 23-0 23 CIVIL

[c. Bill 23-023 (Civil Penalties)]

QUITE FRANKLY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE REPRESENTED OVER MY 30 PLUS YEARS REPRESENTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE A CIVIL CITATION OF OH ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY FOR ZONING. I KNOW. WE GOT SOME QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHY IS IT LIMITED TO 500? WHEN WE HAVE OTHER PROVISIONS IN THE CODE, THEY CAN GO UP TO 1000. QUITE FRANKLY, THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE ENABLING LEGISLATION. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE GOT A QUESTION FROM COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE DION. AND GOT THREE AND HE ASKED, YOU KNOW WHY CAN'T IT BE 1000? BALTIMORE COUNTY HAS 1000 BALTIMORE COUNTY HAS A SEPARATE, WELL, 1000. BUT THAT WAS FOR DIFFERENT. I FOUND OUT THAT WAS MULTIPLIED, BUT THEY HAVE THEY HAVE A SEPARATE ENABLING AND STATUTE IN THE LAND. USE ARTICLES UNDER 9302. WE HAVE WE HAVE TO GO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SEPARATE ENABLING AUTHORITY JUST FOR HARFORD COUNTY. WE HAVE TO GO INTO THE GENERAL PROVISIONS, WHICH IS 11 TO 1 AT SEX. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. THIS BILL FOLLOWS THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ENABLING AUTHORITY. IN AN ESSENCE. UH UTILIZES AND ADOPTS THAT ENABLING AUTHORITY TO GIVE US THE CIVIL CITATION ENFORCEMENT TOOL. I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR BROWN, PLEASE, MR JANE, JORDANA. THANK MR BLOOM. QUIST. IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T PAY THE FINE IN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. IS THERE AN INCREASE IN THE FINE? SO WHAT HAPPENS? IT'S KIND OF A CONVOLUTED PROCESS. THE SHORT ANSWER. THERE CAN BE AN INCREASE IN THE FIND. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE. YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE CITATION AND THEN THE PERSON HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COURT IF OR TO PAY THE CITATION . IF THEY ELECT TO GO TO COURT, THEN WE GO TO COURT. AND IF WE PREVAIL IN COURT, THEN WE CAN ASK FOR THE FACT THAT THE FINE TO BE DOUBLED THROUGH THE COURT

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THEN WE HAVE TO KIND OF REPEAT THE PROCESS. IN TERMS OF WE HAVE TO ASK THE COURT. TO ENFORCE THE CITATION AND WE THE COUNTY HAS TO TAKE THAT STEP. THE PERSON HAS HAS AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE DO THAT TO REQUEST TO SUBMIT A NOTICE TO DEFEND UNDER THE DISTRICT COURT. PROCEDURAL RULES , AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY AND IF WE PREVAIL, THE THIS BILL AUTHORIZES. THE COURT TO DOUBLE THE FINE AT THAT POINT, AND IN THE COURT OBVIOUSLY HAS DISCRETION, SO I THINK MY EXPERIENCE IN DOING CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE VIOLATION AND THE NATURE OF THE RECALCITRANCE OF THE PERSON WHO'S BEING SIDE SIGHTED. COURTS GENERALLY LIKE TO SEE THESE THINGS GET RESOLVED AND THE C COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE. THERE UH, IF YOU WILL THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ASSESS FINES INCREASES AS OBSTINANCE AND JUST STRAIGHT, YOU KNOW, THEIR ELECTION OF A LAW IS MANIFESTED BY AN OWNER OR OCCUPANT. OUT OF 620 CASES. WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF MOVING FORWARD OF HOW MANY OF THOSE WILL BE TRIED? AND HOW MUCH TIME DOES THAT TAKE UP? AND DOES THAT TAKE UP A WHOLE ATTORNEY? THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO TRIAL FOR THIS? YOU HAVE A NUMBER YET? I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU COME WITH. I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU COME WITH 620 CASES. 620 CASE VIOLATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023. THERE HAVE BEEN 620 CASE VIOLATIONS BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS. EXTRAPOLATING A FOUR YEAR AND ASSUMING ONE THIRD OF THE CASES WITH RESULT IN A CIVIL PENALTY. THIS BILL WOULD RESULT IN INCREASED REVENUE OF APPROXIMATELY 118,000. SO I'M WONDERING IF OUT OF 623. HOW MANY? HOW MANY DO YOU GUYS UM, MAYBE HAVE SAID, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, 50% OR 20% OR 10% ARE GOING TO GO TO COURT. AND HOW MUCH TIME DOES THAT TAKE? ANY IDEA WELL. EVERY CASE WILL TAKE IT. EVERY CASE IT GOES TO COURT. YOU CAN. YOU CAN ANTICIPATE APPROXIMATELY A DAY OF TIME BETWEEN WHEN YOU AND IT SHORTENS AS YOU GET INTO THE PROCESS AND DO IT MORE BUT PREPARING THE WITNESSES PREPARING PREPARING THE DOCUMENTATION USUALLY AND YOU KNOW, AN HOUR 2 TO 3 HOURS AGAIN , IT BECOMES, THE MORE YOU DO IT. THE BETTER YOU GET AT IT, AND THEN YOU CAN SIT AROUND IN COURT WITH ONE OF THESE THINGS EASILY FOR HALF A DAY, BECAUSE USUALLY AS YOU KNOW, IN DISTRICT COURT, THE COURT GOES THROUGH ITS UNCONTESTED DOCKET. FIRST THIS WOULD BE A CONTESTANT. THIS COULD BE A CONTESTED DOCKING AND SO YOU WAIT, AND THEN HE HANDLED THAT CASE, SO IT'S YOU KNOW, COMBINED TIME. MY ESTIMATION WOULD BE A DAY OF TIME. AN ANIMAL SHORTY TIME NOW THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS YOU KNOW, AS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ENFORCE AND YOUR ENFORCEMENT IS SUCCESSFUL THAT TENDS TO GENERATE COMPLIANCE.

YOU AND SO YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE HERE IS NOT THE PURPOSE HERE IS NOT TO EXTORT MONEY FROM PEOPLE.

THE PURPOSE HERE IS TO OBTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE AND TO GET PEOPLE TO RESPECT THE CODE.

UH, YOU KNOW, AND RESPECT. GIVE AND TAKE THAT'S PROVIDED THROUGH ZONING COULD BOTH BENEFIT AND THE BURDEN AND SO YOU KNOW, MY ANTICIPATION OVER TIME WOULD BE THAT AS PEOPLE REALIZE THAT HEY, HARFORD COUNTY TAKES, YOU KNOW, TAKES THESE MATTERS SERIOUSLY AND WILL PURSUE THEM TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY THAT TENDS TO THAT TENDS TO AH! BEING IMPETUS FOR VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, AND WE CERTAINLY WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. OKAY DO YOU GUYS KNOW OF THE 600? MAYBE YOU WOULD KNOW THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE THE 620 CASE VIOLATIONS? UM, WHAT THE MAJORITY WAS AND WHAT AND WHAT AREA. JUST JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF VIOLATIONS. WHERE DID WHERE DID THEY MOSTLY? GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING CASTLE. UM RICHARD, DIRECTOR INSPECTIONS PERMITS. I THINK THE NUMBER THAT YOU GOT THERE IS A COMBINATION OF CASE FILE WORK THAT WAS FROM DEPARTMENT PLANNING, ZONING DEPARTMENT INSPECTIONS LICENSE PERMITS THROUGH OUR PERMANENT SYSTEM AND COMPLAINT SYSTEM. AH, IT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO VARY. UM I

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OKAY, THANKS. I JUST APPRECIATE THE ANSWER. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT . UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. APPRECIATE THAT WE HAD A MEETING IN OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY INTERESTED IN THIS BILL . AND WE HAVE WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE. I THINK THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO SPEAK. IN REGARDS TO THIS BILL. UM WE WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN SAYING GIVEN THE BILL SOME TEETH AND WE WANT TO RAISE THE 500 TO 5000. I WAS GOING TO PUT AN AMENDMENT FOUND OUT THAT, UH, THE LAW WON'T LET US DO THAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S BECAUSE FARMER BOOKS IS CHUMP CHANGE, DOUGLAS. SOME PEOPLE HAVE THEIR SOME THESE CONTRACTORS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE IN VIOLATION, SOMETHING YOU KNOW THEY'LL VIOLATE IT AND PAY THE 500. IT'S NOTHING UM SO I WHAT? I COULD COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I GOT, UM, IS FIRST OFF THE ORIGINALLY RESERVED DOWN 1 52. WE'VE HAD UMPTEEN PROBLEMS WITH THAT PLACE. UH AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING DOWN THERE. IT'S CAUSED US ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. IT'S A IT'S A LAST SUMMER, IT MADE OUR ENTIRE RUMSEY ALAN BASIN, UH, A SEA OF MUD. AND THAT EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO COST US UPWARDS OF A MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DREDGE BECAUSE ALL THAT MUD AND ALL STUFF THAT WAS IN THE WATER WHERE DID IT GO, EVENTUALLY SANK RIGHT TO THE BOTTOM AND PROBABLY GOING TO WIND UP HAVING TO DREDGE YET A LOT EARLIER THAN WE EXPECTED TO DREDGE IT, AND YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA COST. UM SO WE REALLY NEED NEED TO GET THESE THESE PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET IT. YOU'RE RIGHT WITH MONEY. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT THEIR MONEY.

WE WANT THEM TO DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. UM SO I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM WHETHER YOU HAVE THIS INFORMATION OR NOT UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, ON THIS UP THIS THIS, UM, ORIGINALLY RESERVED PROPERTY , THEY SHUT THEM DOWN FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES. AND BUT FIND THEM ONCE. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE FOUR ISSUES WERE THAT THEY SHUT THEM DOWN FOR AND HOW MUCH THEY FIND THEM. DO YOU HAVE THE INFO? I HAVE NOT SPECIFICALLY HAD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RUN THAT DOWN. IT'S GETTING THAT THIS AFTERNOON . I CAN RUN THAT DOWN AND GET BACK TO YOU AND WILL DO SO. OKAY UM, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION SINCE WE CAN'T RAISE THE 500 READING THAT THE POTENTIAL BILL HERE, IT SAYS THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, AND DISNEY MAY IMPOSE A FINE NOT TO EXCEED $500 FOR EACH VIOLATION. UM. WE'RE INTERESTED IN GIVING IT MORE TEETH. IF WE CAN DO IT, IF WE CAN DO IT FOR YOU WITH AMENDMENTS WILL GLADLY DO IT. UM I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND DECIDED WHAT WE CAN'T RAISE. THE MONEY CAN'T BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY SAY WHETHER THAT'S UH OF $500 FINE FOR THAT VIOLATION. OR CAN IT BE $500 PER DAY UNTIL THE VIOLATION IS CORRECTED? IS THAT POSSIBLE? WELL SO IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT I BELIEVE IT'S ON PAGE SIX WHERE WE'RE NOT AMENDING ONCE THERE'S AN ADJUDICATION OF A VIOLATION THAN EACH ADDITIONAL DATA, THAT VIOLATION GOES UNCORRECTED WILL CONSTITUTE A SEPARATELY FINDABLE OFFENSE. WE WOULD HAVE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO PURSUE THAT. IN COURT IN COURT. SO IT CAN AGAIN. THAT'S WHY I SUGGEST WHY I SUGGEST, YOU KNOW FIRST YOU WANT TO GET THE VIOLATION ESTABLISHED. THEN THAT STARTS TO GIVE YOU THE TEETH IF NOTHING IS DONE. YOU KNOW THE HOPE AND USUALLY WHEN YOU GET A COURT, THE COURTS HAS A YOU KNOW , AGAIN MY EXPERIENCE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. PORTABLE, SATISFYING THEY WANT TO KNOW. YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT ARE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES WHERE

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RIGHT THEN YOU FIX THE FIX THE VIOLATION IF THEY DON'T FIX THE VIOLATION, BUT THEY PAY THE FUND THAT REALLY CONSTITUTES IN THE MISSION OF THE VIOLATION, AND WE CAN START WE CAN ISSUE A NEW VIOLATION IF IT'S NOT CORRECT, BUT I ASSUME IF HE'S GOING TO PAY YOU 200 BUCKS IS GOING TO FIX THE VIOLATION. MAYBE THAT WOULD I MEAN AND THAT WOULD BE THE HOPE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE OBJECTIVE IS THE OBJECTIVE IS NOT TO KEEP CONTINUOUSLY FIND. THE OBJECTIVE IS TO GET COMPLIANCE WITH WITH THE CODE REQUIREMENTS. UM. THERE'S A THERE'S A CLAUSE THAT PULLED OUT OF OUT OF THE BONER COUNTY BILL. UM WHICH I WANTED TO READ TO YOU AND FIND OUT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT, UH, A LANGUAGE SIMILAR TO THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS EXACT LANGUAGE. COULD BE ADDED TO THIS BILL. AND SAYS, IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE THE COUNTY MAY IF IT FINDS A VIOLATION OF THIS ARTICLE, WITHHOLD ANY BUILDING PERMITS FROM THE VIOLATOR N WORD ISSUES STOP WORK ORDERS ON WORK BEING DONE PURSUANT TO THE COUNTY BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL THE VIOLATIONS OR VIOLATOR VIOLATIONS OR VIOLATIONS, PLURAL. OR CORRECTED. AND SO AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING PERMIT LANGUAGE. THIS AND THIS IS CIVIL UNDERSTAND MINT UNDERSTAND? PRISON IN A SEPARATE ENFORCEMENT AVENUE. THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT AVENUE.

BUT THIS WAS THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY TAILORED ON THE LAND USE ARTICLE TO GIVE PLANNING AND ZONING. TEETH TO START ENFORCING THEIR CODE. THROUGH REALLY A MECHANISM THAN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS IS HAS PROVED ACCESSIBLE. TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING CODE.

SO. WE HAVE PUT EVERY WE HAVE MADE THIS AS I THIS BILL AS OWNERS IF EARNER IS IF YOU WILL , AS AN INNATE BE ENABLING LEGISLATION PERMITS. I I'VE ALSO CONTACTED THE ERA SENATOR FOR HIS DISTRICT, AND I'VE PUT ON ALERT THAT WE LIKE TO SEE HER IN THE NEXT SESSION, WHICH IS NOT NEXT JANUARY. YOU KNOW, CHANGE THESE PROVISIONS THAT RAISE THIS AMOUNT AND ALSO, UM UNDER THE HOGAN ADMINISTRATION. THEY CHANGED THE LAW THAT READ THAT YOU COULD, UH ON ON A BUILDING PERMIT. THAT YOU COULD BUILD ONLY 25% OF THE OF THE PROJECT AT A TIME. AND THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE LAW SO THEY CAN JUST BUILD THE WHOLE PROJECT AT ONE TIME, WHICH IS WHAT THE BIG PROBLEM WE WERE HAVING WITH WITH THE ONE ON 1 52, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE THEY UM OH, NOT VITAL EATING SOMEBODY, BUT THEY HAD THEIR RIGHTS TO DO WHAT THEY DID AT ALL OR ONE DISTRICT, AND WE RECENTLY PASSED A LAW WITH THE HELP OF THIS COUNCIL THAT, UM IN OUR ONE DISTRICT. FROM NOW ON, YOU CAN ONLY BUILD SINGLE HOMES PERIOD. THAT WHOLE PROPERTIES ARE ONE BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY SAID THEY WERE A QUOTE NATURAL RESOURCE DISTRICT. WHICH UH, UNFORTUNATELY FROM.

AMENDMENT THAT CRAIG PUT IN THAT THEY COULD SAY THAT THE CONTRACTORS BUILDING THE PROPERTY. AH COULD DETERMINE IT WAS A NATURAL RESOURCE DISTRICT AND NOBODY COULD EVEN CHALLENGE IT. SO LET ALLOWED THEM TO GO FROM BUILDING 300 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO 200 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND 188 TOWN HOMES. AND WOULD THAT ALSO ALLOW THEM INTO SINCE THEY TOOK AWAY THE 25% AND ALLOW THEM TO CUT DOWN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AT ONE TIME, WHICH IS CAUSED US ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH

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THAT'S 100 YARDS ALONE RIGHT THERE, PLUS ACROSS IT, ANOTHER 50 DOWN TO WHERE THEY HAD THE HOOK ALL THE WATER AND SOAR UP WELL, WHEN THEY DID THAT, THEY TORE DOWN THE WHOLE EMBANKMENT THERE THAT THAT TOOK CARE OF THE RUNOFF. WATER WOULD RUN OFF THERE AND GO DOWN INTO THE TO THE CREEK. WELL NOW WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN IT RAINS. WATER RUNS RIGHT OFF THE HILL GOES RIGHT IN THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND THE FOOTBALL BILL COMES THE SWAMP TAKEN BOTH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE THERE AND TERRY HANLEY FROM FROM PARKS AND REC THERE, AND THEY'VE SEEN IT AND THEY SEE WHAT'S WRONG AND THEY'RE GOING AFTER THE BUILDER UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PEOPLE DO TAKE CARE OF IT. UH, AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO SEE A RESULT OF THAT. BUT THAT'S MY GRIEVANCES AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MR PAEMEN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM THANK YOU BOTH. AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY IN OPPOSITION TO JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE. AND I THINK MR GUTHRIE MENTIONED AND I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO IT TO MR BLOOM. QUIST DO WE KNOW THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS AND COMPARISON WHAT THEIR CIVIL PENALTIES ARE? JUST ROUGHLY THE SAME. BALTIMORE COUNTY HAS A SEPARATE ENABLING STATUTE. WE COULD. GO TO THE DELEGATION AND GET OUR OWN ENABLING WAD, THE VERY VARIED THE GENERAL ENABLING LAW. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE PAST, AND WE OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO DO THAT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IF WE GO TO THE DELEGATION IS IF WE END UP BEING IN AN ABATEMENT POSITION, GETTING THE RIGHT BUT WE HAVE TO GET STATE ENABLING LEGISLATION FOR US TO DO A LIEN FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR COST OF ABATEMENT THAT THAT THE COUNTY INCURRED, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. BUT THIS WOULD GIVE US A START. UNDER WHAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JURISDICTIONS IS WITH WITH THE DELEGATION HAS GIVEN THEM BY WAY OF STATE ENABLING, WORKING AND I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT. THE RELUCTANCE OF DOING CRIMINAL AND BURDENING THE YOU KNOW THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND THAT ONE TO PURSUE THAT AND HAVING MORE TEETH, BUT I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ON ANOTHER QUESTION ON PAGE SEVEN. LARGE 16, AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY ABOUT TENANTS OR OCCUPANTS. UM AND HOW YOU KIND OF SEE THAT IF SOMEONE IS RENTING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT THERE IS A VIOLATION. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO IT. NOT NECESSARILY THE PROPERTY OWNER. JUST WANT TO SEE HOW HOW YOU ENVISION THAT WORKING OUT? WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE TENANTS ARE ACTUALLY DOING WORK IN VIOLATION OF THE CODES. AND IN VIOLATION, ZONING REGULATIONS STUDENT YOU KNOW, PUTTING ON AN ACT PUT ON IMPROVEMENTS DOING IN ADDITION TO HOUSE WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WORTH TENANT HAS IS A TENANT WITH WITH AN OPTION TO BUY AND STARTS DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS WITH WITH WITH NO PERMITS. SO IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHERE THIS LANGUAGE WOULD ALLOW US TO GO. NOT JUST AFTER THE OWNER WHO DOESN'T REALLY CARE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IT MAY BE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE ALL LEASE SALE AGREEMENT ALREADY IN PLACE. SO THE TENANT OR THE OCCUPANT BECOMES THE REAL PERSON AND INTEREST. BUT YOU DON'T SEE LIKE A TENANT. IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLICIT IN THE VIOLATION. YOU DON'T SEE YOU KNOW, AVENUE TO GO AFTER THEM. JUST A PROPERTY ON IT DOESN'T KNOW THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. BUT THAT'S WHY THE LANGUAGES HERE AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY IT INCLUDES TENANT ARGUMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHEN THE TENANT OR OCCUPANT IS REALLY THE REAL PARTY AND INTEREST. AND THEN JUST THE FINE RANGE. UM THIS ONE. I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY UNDERSTAND IT. UM AND PART OF IT'S THE NEW LANGUAGE AND THE OLD LANGUAGE. ON PAGE TWO. WE TALKED ABOUT THE 1000. BUT I THINK YOU MENTIONED IF IT'S A IF THEY'RE FOUND GUILTY IN COURT. UM, YOU KNOW, THEN IT COULD BE ADDITIONAL PENALTY EACH AND EVERY DAY. UM I THINK IT'S ON THE OLD LANGUAGE ON ON PAGE SEVEN. SHALL BE GUILTY OF MISDEMEANOR AND SHALL WE FIND NOT MORE THAN 500 FOR EACH OFFENSE, EACH DAY OF CONTAINING VIOLATION SHALL BE CONSIDERED A SEPARATE, MISTER MEANER, SO THAT'S ONLY IF THEY ARE FOUND GUILTY IN COURT THAT THEY CAN WRITE. IF THE IF THE COURT FINDS THAT THERE IS A VIOLATION THAN WE CAN, WE CAN START TO ASSESS ON A DAILY BASIS AGAIN. GOT TO USE YOUR DISCRETION IN TERMS OF THE NATURE OF THE RECALCITRANCE IN THE NATURE OF THE VIOLATION, BUT BUT WE HAVEN'T ELIMINATED THAT OPTION. WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED THAT BUT FIRST WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH THE VIOLATION. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO THE DISTRICT COURT, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE TO KIND OF

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GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I'M BILL TEMIC 4 25 VLADIMIRO CHOPPER. I WANT TO THANK. COUNCIL PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SPEAK AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL, THE EXECUTIVE AND THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR INTRODUCING THE BILL AND DION FOR MEETING WITH ACCOUNT WITH CITIZENS TO TRY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. UM AND VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT HERITAGE CORPORATION. IT'S A FIVE OR ONE C THREE WITH VERY BROAD MANDATES TO MAKE JOB BETTER. I'M ALSO CHAIR OF THE WATER COMMITTEE. I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE BILL. IT'S TERRIFIC THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT ARE TAKING THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY. AND AGAIN THANK. COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE . I THINK THE PROPOSED FINES ARE RIDICULOUSLY LOW IN THE AMENDMENTS NEEDED TO BE ADDED TO INCREASE THE PENALTIES FOR WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE. WE HAVE TO

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AT THE SOUTH END OF THE PIER AMERICAN POINT PARK. IT'S KIND OF BLUE GREEN. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A TROUT STREAM. IT'S THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. IT'S TITLED WATER, BUT IT'S BLUE GREEN.

PICTURE BELOW. IT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE COMING OUT OF FOSTER BRANCH. YOU CAN EVEN SEE THE LINE WHERE THE TWO WHAT IS MEAT? THAT. ORANGE BROWN SLUDGE. WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. I WAS IN TRAINING AND, UH FOR HOW . TO DO WATER TESTING DOWN ALBERT BRANCH BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO A NORTHERN BAY JUST MADE TEST. AND THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT OUR WATER. IT WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT FAR. WHICH SWITCH PAGES. THIS IS FOSTER BRANCH WHERE HOMES ARE ITS TITLE HERE. GOES FROM MISTER TIBS. PLEASE READ YOUR COMMENTS TOO CLOSE. YOU'RE BAD AT IT TIME AND YOU ARE OUT OF TIME MINUTES . THREE MINUTES. SPEAKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION. THREE MINUTES, SIR. IT'S BEEN THREE MINUTES FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BUT WE DO HAVE YOUR DOCUMENTATION WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. BILL WHELAN FOLLOWED BY RALPH MAGNA. WELL IN 4, 15 SUITOR SPRINGS ROAD BILL OR MARYLAND, 21015 AGAINST BILL 23 23 AT THIS TIME, IT'S A REWRITE OF 1 23 OF THE HARPER CODE AND CHANGES TO 67 14 A AND C OF THE ZONING CODE, AS PRESENTLY WRITTEN, PROVIDES ONLY FOR A COUNTY DEPARTMENT, WHEREAS AUTHORIZED DESIGNATING THE COMPLETE AUTHORITY DISCRETION TO IMPOSE A FINE ISSUED A CITATION FOR A LOT OF RELATIONS OF ANY ROLE RESOLUTION RULE OR REGULATION. THERE'S NO MENTION OF IMPOSITION OF FINES AND ISSUANCE CITATIONS FOR NINE COMPLYING TO BOARD APPEALS FINAL DECISION THE LAW DEPARTMENT HAS INTERPRETED ZONING CODE THAT THE BOARD OF APPEALS HAS DONE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS NOT OBLIGATED TO ENFORCE THE DECISIONS OF THE BORDER PURSUIT FIELDS AND PURSUIT OF ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OR POLICY LEFT TO THE DISCRETION OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. I DON'T FIND THIS DEFINED ANYWHERE IN THE CODE. CHARTER OR ZONING CODE. IT SHOULD BE REJECTED UNTIL SUCH TIME THE ADMINISTRATION AND COUNTY COUNCIL MADE THE CLEARLY DEFINED THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION DIRECTOR OF PLANNING ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. THERE'S ONLY CODE IN MY OPINION CONTAINS AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE IS CREATED PAST PROBLEMS. YOU HAVE THIS CONFLICT BETWEEN 2 67-9 B AND 2 69 L AND IT CAN BE INTERPRETED THAT THE BOARD OF APPEALS DOES HAVE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE ITS DECISIONS. FORTUNATELY I'M ABLE TO FINALLY GET A MEETING WITH SOME MINISTRATIONS MEMBERS WITH THE HELP OF THIS FULLY IN MID JULY. HARFORD COUNTY HAS EXISTING RULES, PROCEDURES FOR PROCESSING AND HEARING APPLICATIONS SOON IN CASES UNDER THIS PROCESS, P AND C SINCE THE APPEALS REQUESTED HERE ARE THE EXAMINER WITH EVER RECOMMENDATIONS REQUESTS MADE THE STAFF REPORT IS INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY, AND FINDINGS AND A BOARD OF APPEALS CASE THIS IS DECISION OF THE HEARING EXAMINER ALONE. IF THERE ARE NO APPEALS DECISION IS THE FINAL DECISION

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RALPH ROMAGNA, 11 34 NEPTUNE JOB DRIVE IN, UH, DROPPING. SPEAKING ON HALF OF MYSELF TONIGHT AND SUPPORT OF THE BILL. I KNOW IT MAY NOT BE PERFECT, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE.

AND MOVED TO RAMSEY ISLAND 11 YEARS AGO, AND I'VE SEEN THE STEADY AND CONSISTENT DEGRADATION OF OUR WATER QUALITY AS A DIRECT RESULT OF INADEQUATE AND UNFORCED REQUIREMENTS ON DEVELOPERS. AS EACH NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS BEGUN AND NOW HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO HOMES.

THE DAMAGES HAVE PERSISTED TO THE POINT THAT THEY ARE IRREPARABLE AND UNFORGIVABLE.

TODAY DEVELOPERS DO NOT CHANGE THEIR ACTIONS AS A RESULT OF INSUFFICIENT DETERRENCE AND LACK OF ENFORCEMENT. AS A COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO BE AUNTIE, BUT AUNTIE BUSINESS, BUT WE DO WANT TO BE PRO ENVIRONMENT. AS WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR HEALTH. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FOLLOWING PENALTIES AND FINES THAT ACT AS A STRONGER DETERRENT UP TO AND INCLUDING THE LOSS OF A LICENSE TO PRACTICE FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS. IF THE PENALTY DOESN'T HURT, QUITE FRANKLY, BEHAVIOR DOES NOT CHANGE. A MORE AGGRESSIVE AND CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT EFFORT BY THE DEPARTMENTS THAT REPRESENT US AND WORK FOR US ON OUR BEHALF. MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COUNTY OCCURS INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE, WHICH CONTAINS THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR NATURAL WATERWAYS TO THE BAY . WE SIMPLY CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER TO TURN THIS TIDE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON BILL 23-0 23. AND WILL BE TAKEN UP AT A LATER DATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BILL 23-0 24 ZONING

[d. Bill 23-024 (Zoning Certificate)]

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WE HAVE TO JOHN MALLAMO, FOLLOWED BY BILL WHELAN. PRODUCER. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES. I STILL LIVE AT 24 02 EAGLE VIEW DRIVE, BEL AIR MARYLAND TO 10 15. USING TWO CASES TO DEMONSTRATE THE INADEQUACIES OF THIS BILL AND BASIS FOR REJECTION. FIRST THE SITUATION AT AUDRICOURT BY BUILDING PERMITS WERE ISSUED FOR BUILDINGS DESCRIBED AS SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS. CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WAS ISSUED FOR EACH BUILDING AND ZONING CASE. 59 22, THE HEARING EXAMINER DECIDED THAT THE BUILDINGS WERE IN A USE MATERIALLY SIMILAR TO A PERSONAL CARE BOARDING HOME PREMIERED BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION. THAT DECISION WAS NOT APPEAL AND HAS NOT BEEN ENFORCED. NOW THERE IS NO BUILDING PERMIT TO REVOKE. THE SITUATION COULD ONLY BE CURED BY REVOKING HIS OWNER'S CERTIFICATE. IN THIS CASE THERE ZONING CERTIFICATE COULD NOT BE LAWFULLY ISSUED AS THERE HAS BEEN NO HEARING FOR A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. INDEED THE CURRENT REQUEST FOR A BUILDING PERMIT IS CURIOUS AS A FILL FACILITY IS OPERATING WITHOUT ANY CLONE. CLEAR ZONING USE DESIGNATION.

THIS BILL DOES NOT ADDRESS THE SITUATION. THE SECOND CASE WOULD BE THE ACCESSORY USES THAT HARPER COUNTY AIRPORT CODE IS QUITE CLEAR, GENERALLY, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE RESTRICTED THAT BY THIS PART, ONE CUSTOMARY ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURE SHALL BE PERMITTED IN ANY DISTRICT IN CONNECTION WITH THE PRINCIPAL PRINTED USED WITHIN SUCH DISTRICT APPROPRIATE AIRPORT ACCESSORY USES, SUCH AS RESTAURANTS, SNACK BARS, AUTOMOBILE RENTAL AGENCIES, AIRLINE BUSINESS OFFICES AND SERVICE FACILITIES. BUT NOT OTHER BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIAL USES MAY BE PERMITTED. SKYDIVING INTRODUCED ON THE AIRPORT'S A LICENSE IN 2013 REQUIRED BOARD OF APPEALS APPROVAL WAS ISSUED BEST DESCRIBED AS A BUSINESS AND AMUSEMENT SKYDIVING IS NOT PERMITTED. NOW FUEL WAS STORED AND SOLD WHILE THE AIRPORT WAS A NONCONFORMING USE AS A PERMITTED USED FUEL STORAGE AND SALE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED AS ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE NOT ON PUBLIC WATER. THE DRONE RUN MANNED AERIAL TEST FACILITY DETERMINED TO BE DEVELOPING RESEARCHING THE TESTING OF UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLES, PRINT ZONES AND THEY PERMITTED USED BY PLANNING AND ZONING. THIS WOULD BE AN INDUSTRIAL USE NOT PERMITTED BY THE ZONING CODE TO MY KNOWLEDGE . ZONING CERTIFICATES WERE NEVER ISSUED FOR THESE ACCESSORY USES OPERATING WITH ARIZONIANS CERTIFICATE WOULD ITSELF BE UNLAWFUL NOW, AS A RESULT THAT CANNOT BE NONCONFORMING USES.

THE ZONING CODE HAS NO LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF GRANDFATHER IN PROCESS PRESCRIBED IN THIS BILL , THE PROCESS DESCRIBED IN CHAPTER 267-4 DEFINING A NONCONFORMING USE BUILDING STRUCTURE, A LOT APPLIES BY LAW AND NONCONFORMING BUILDING STRUCTURE OR LOT MAY CONTINUE, BUT WOULD WE BUT WOULD BE RE REGULATED AS PRESCRIBED IN PART ONE ARTICLE FOUR CHAPTER 267 OF THE ZONING CODE. THIS LEAVES THREE QUESTIONS WHO DETERMINES THE LAWFUL STATUS OF ALL ACCESSORY USES CURRENTLY OPERATING WHAT ARE THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS FOR RESULTING NONCONFORMING USES? WHO ENFORCES DECISIONS OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS UNTIL THIS ISSUE IS RESOLVED. THE OPERATIONS OF THE BOARD OF APPEAL SHOULD BE SUSPENDED AND ALL PENDING CASES STAYED. YES THIS IS ROUND THREE. BILL WHALEN, 4 15 SUITOR SPRING THROAT. BEL AIR MARYLAND. I REALLY HAD SOME TROUBLE DISTINGUISHING SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE BUILDING PERMIT AND ZONING CERTIFICATE REQUIREMENT. THE APPLICATION FORM IS THE SAME , AND IT WAS REVISED IN 12 3 22. UM AFTER THE EXPLANATION, PROVIDED, I THINK I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE BILL ATTEMPTS TO ACCOMPLISH. HOWEVER AFTER LISTENING TO MR MARLON LOSE COMMENTS, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THEM INACCURACIES ON THE BILL AND BEING VALID. I CAN REALLY RELATE TO HIS COMMENTS OF THE SITUATION THAT OGDEN COURT AND SO IN CASE 59 22 BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT FOR FIVE YEARS, TRYING TO GET THE ADMINISTRATION TO COMPLY WITH THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMITTED USE THE BOARD OF APPEAL'S DECISION IN CASE 59 WAS VERY CLEAR, CONCLUDED THE DIRECTOR OF PLAYING. HE WAS THERE AIRED IN HIS FINAL DETERMINATION AND THE OGDEN COURT HOMES. WE'RE USED TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES CONCLUDED THE PREVENTED USES A PERSONAL CARE BOARDING HOME, REQUIRING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. UNFORTUNATELY THIS DECISION WAS IGNORED, NOT ENFORCED BY THE THEN DIRECTOR AND THE FACILITY CONTINUES TO OPERATE UNLAWFULLY AND WITHOUT ANY APPROVED USE DESIGNATION. THAT'S WHY UNDERSTANDING THE ADMINISTRATION. JUST CAN'T RESOLVE THIS VETERAN TOTAL FALL BECAUSE OF OTHER PRIORITIES SO UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE ISSUE IS RESOLVED, AND CHANGES ARE MADE AGAIN TO DEFINE THE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY OF THE BOARD OF A

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THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS. MR PRESIDENT, WITH NO MORE SPEAKERS. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 23 DASH YEAR 24 AND IT WILL BE TAKEN UP AT A FUTURE MEETING.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. BILL 23-0 20 REVISED PRIOR YEAR BOND BILLS, MR SAILORS MR STOPFORD.

[e. Bill 23-020 (Revise Prior Year Bond Bills)]

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IN THIS CASE, THE PRESENTATION IS BEFORE THE BUDGET IS GOING TO BE PASSED. BUT WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS THAT ALL OF THE PROJECTS LISTED IN ALL THREE OF THESE BOND BILLS CORRESPOND TO THE BUDGET THAT WILL TAKE UP LATER ON THIS EVENING. SO IF IT IS ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET THAT SHOWS EITHER NEW BONDS OR PRIOR BONDS APPROPRIATED, UM THESE THREE PIECES OF LEGISLATION IN THE PROJECTS LISTED THERE IN CORRESPOND TO THAT BUDGET. UM. NOW NORMALLY, THE ACTUAL BOND SALE WHEN WE SELL THESE ACTUAL PROJECTS, UM YOU KNOW, MAY IN FACT BE SEVERAL YEARS LATER, JUST BECAUSE THE TIMING OF BOND SALES WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, THE COUNTY IS IN A POSITION THAT WE NORMALLY DO NOT SELL BONDS UNTIL WE'VE ACTUALLY INCURRED THE EXPENDITURES THAT ENABLES US TO SABLE ON INTEREST PAYMENTS. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL ARBITRAGE ISSUES OR ANYTHING ALONG THE LINES OF THEIR SEVERAL. THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF I R S UM, RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT DEAL WITH THE USE OF BOND PROCEEDS. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT. SO THE BONDS THAT YOU SEE AUTHORIZED HERE, UM, WILL BE AUTHORIZED HERE. HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK, PROBABLY MANY CASES WON'T NECESSARILY SOLD FOR A FEW YEARS UNTIL THOSE PROJECTS GET, UM, GET UNDERWAY, SO JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE THREE AREAS IN THE PRIOR BOND BILLS THAT ARE BEING RE APPROPRIATED. MOST OF THOSE ARE IN THE DPW SECTION. CENTERED ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UM, HIGHWAYS AND WATER AND SORE AND OFTENTIMES YOU'LL HAVE PROJECTS THAT WERE KIND OF A HOST OF DIFFERENT REASONS HAVE UNSPENT OR UNSOLD BONDS ON THEM, RANGING FROM THERE WAS SAVINGS ON THE PROJECT TO MAYBE THE PROJECT WAS DEFERRED OR THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES AND THEN THE REALLOCATE IT TO OTHER TO OTHER PROJECTS. AND AGAIN. ALMOST ALL OF THOSE ARE ON THE DPW AREA, OTHERS A LITTLE BIT FOR SCHOOLS AS WELL. THE BIG ONE IS BUILT 21, WHICH DEALS WITH ANY OF THE NEW BONDS THAT ARE BEING BUDGETED. THAT IS THE $94 MILLION NUMBER OF THAT $94 MILLION OF NEW, UH, NEW TAXPAYER SUPPORTED BONDS. ABOUT HALF OF IT IS FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 42 MILLION , UM, FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS, AND THOSE WOULD INCLUDE THE HARTFORD ACADEMY. MAJOR PROJECTS 16 MILLION THERE. HARPER TECH RENOVATION AND ABOUT $11.5 MILLION AND THE ABERDEEN MIDDLE SCHOOL H V. A C PROJECT THAT JUST SHY OF $8 MILLION ALSO RELATED TO THAT. IT IS THE CHEST WELCOME CENTER AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FOR $10.8 MILLION THAN OTHER SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS. UM SITE ACQUISITION, WHICH ACTUALLY CUT UM GOES IN WITH A LOT OF SCHOOL. UM UH, ACQUIRING PROPERTIES FOR SCHOOLS AS WELL AS OTHER FOR COUNTY USES AS WELL. UM THERE'S ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT PROJECT, AS IS VARIOUS WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PROJECTS WE HAVE ABOUT $8.6 MILLION AND THEREFORE WATERSHED WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PROJECTS AND AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE WILL BE FUNDED WITH TAXPAYER SUPPORTED.

THEY'RE ALL TAXPAYERS SUPPORTED DEBT. WE DO USE RECORD ATION AND TRANSFER TAX TO PAY FOR AS MUCH AS THE SCHOOL THAT AS WE CAN, AND THEN THE REST OF THEM ARE PAID FOR WHICH KIND OF GENERAL TAX TAX DOLLARS. UM ON THE WATER AND SOURCE SIDE. THE $8.5 MILLION THERE AGAIN THAT IS ONLY PAID FOR BY INDIVIDUALS WHO USE THE WATER AND SOURCE SYSTEM, EITHER FROM THEIR INITIAL HOOK UP FEES OR IF THAT'S INSUFFICIENT OPERATING COSTS. SO IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE WATER AND SOURCE SYSTEM, YOU DO NOT PAY FOR THAT DEBT SERVICE. AND IF YOU'RE IN THE WATER AND SOURCE

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THAT'S $8.5 MILLION WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS. THEY'RE BEING THE SCATTER INFORMATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SOD ONE WASTEWATER PLANT, UM, ULTRAVIOLET DISINFECTION AS WELL AS THE AVENUE WATER TREATMENT PLANT GENERATOR AS WELL. AND THE MARYLAND TRANSPORTATION. I 95 IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. UM SO WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MR SANDERS COUNCIL. ANYONE WITH ANY QUESTIONS? MR PAEMEN. MR CHANDLER'S THANK YOU, UM ON BILL 23 20 PAGE 10. IT HAS THE HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE CENTRAL PRECINCT AND TRAINING FACILITY. SO BUDGET ARE WE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT OR SO HOW THE, UM THAT THAT PROJECT WAS WAS RECEIVED BOND BOND APPROPRIATION DURING THOSE BUDGET YEARS, AND IT'S MORE OR LESS THIS LIST BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE PART OF THE LEGISLATION, SO ONLY WHERE YOU WOULD SEE UM, WHAT IS IT? IT'S UH, ITALICS OR BOLD ONLY BRACKETS, BRACKETS OR OR VOTE IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE ANY CHANGES, SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF BITS OF PRIOR LEGISLATION. THAT'S UNCHANGED. AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE AS THE CASE WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TRAINING CENTER, THERE IS THERE IS NO CHANGE ON THE BOND AUTHORIZATION THERE SO WE CAN ONLY SAY WE CAN ONLY USE PROCEEDS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED, SO WE COULDN'T JUST, UM UH, USE THOSE BONDS FOR ANOTHER FOR ANOTHER PROJECT. SO UM, IF EVER THOSE PROJECTS WERE TO ANY BONDS WERE TO BE TAKEN OFF OF A PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AS WE'RE DOING HERE WITH THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING CHANGED, SUCH AS I KNOW, LIKE, ONE OF THE MORE SIGNIFICANT ONES IS THE NORRISVILLE DPW AREA, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER WOODEN STORE PROJECT SO NO CHANGE TO THE SHERIFF'S TRAINING CENTER.

THAT BUDGET REMAINS INTACT AS IT WAS BEFORE, SO IT'S ON HOLD TO MY UNDERSTANDING. IS THERE ANY OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS BOND BILL THAT ARE ALSO ON HOLD OTHER THAN THE PRECINCT? WELL I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN TALK WITH THE, UM UM, THE SOME OF THE RECREATION CENTERS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IN IN IN ABERDEEN AND LOOKING AT OTHER FORMS OF REDESIGNING THOSE UM, SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT . THAT IS, UM, THAT IS STILL BEING STUDIED AS WELL. UM I CAN'T THINK OF ANYONE ELSE OFF THE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT OFTENTIMES WITH A LOT OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, IT DOES TAKE A WHILE, SOMETIMES JUST FOR A WHOLE HOST OF REASONS. UM MANPOWER SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. QUESTIONS AS TO DESIGN. UM SO THAT LIKE WE LOOK AT WHAT WE JUST RECENTLY SOLD THIS PAST WINTER. A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE FROM FISCAL YEARS, 2021 AND 19, SO THEY'RE OFTENTIMES IS A DELAY IN AS AS FAR AS WHEN THE PROJECTS PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY SOLD. SO I THINK THIS ONE FOR TOMORROW, UNDERSTANDING IT'S READY TO GO OUT TO BED. IT'S ALREADY DESIGNED. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER IN THAT CATEGORY? THAT IS BEING HELD UP AGAIN. I KNOW THAT WITH THE ABERDEEN RECREATION CENTER WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT AT THAT ONE, AND THAT ONE'S BEEN ALSO DOING SOME SOME REDESIGN WORK. I CAN'T. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ANY OTHER ONES. I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ONE THAT, BUT I KNOW THOSE TWO PROJECTS HAVE BEEN, UM THOSE TWO PROJECTS HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN HELD FOR MORE OR LESS, BUT I THINK THAT ONE THE ABERDEEN ONE THAT WE JUST GOT A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND WE GOT A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR OF ABERDEEN. I THINK THERE IS SOME CONTENTION ON HOW LARGE OF A FOOTPRINT THEY WANT. THAT'S WHY THAT'S BEING HELD UP. THIS ONE IS NOWHERE NEAR THAT SAME SITUATION. I MEAN AGAIN THERE, THERE CAN BE A HOST OF REASONS FOR WHY A PROJECT YOU KNOW ISN'T ISN'T MOVING. I MEAN, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT PROJECT A LOT. I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT THE UM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS HAS QUESTIONS ON IT, AND IT'S GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH UM, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT THE BUDGET REMAINS INTACT. SO, UM, AGAIN. THOSE BUDGETED FUNDS, YOU KNOW, CAN ONLY REALLY BE USED FOR THAT PROJECT UNLESS THEY ARE UNLESS THEY ARE MOVED. BUT IT'S YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY WHEN THE EXECUTIVE SIDE IS NOT REQUIRED TO MOVE ON THEM. IT KIND OF SETS A CEILING YOU CAN SPEND AND YOU CAN USE IT FOR THESE FOR THESE, UM BUDGETED PROJECTS, BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. UM YOU KNOW, AT AT ANY CERTAIN SPEED I UNDERSTAND THAT , UM, JUST THE LAST THING SO THAT ABERDEEN COMMUNITY CENTER ASIDE, THIS IS THE ONLY PROJECT THAT'S BEING HELD UP. I MEAN, I HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ONES. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE THERE. THERE THERE MAY. OFTENTIMES BRIDGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE SOMETIMES HELD UP FOR EASEMENT PURPOSES AND ALL. UM THERE WERE A FEW PROJECTS THAT ARE AS UM PROBABLY IN THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE AND IN THE PUBLIC EYE AND IN THE WAY THAT THAT THAT PROJECT IS. BUT LIKE HARTFORD ACADEMY HAS BEEN AND YOU KNOW, HOMESTEAD WAKEFIELD HAS BEEN ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE IT'S BEEN HELD UP DUE TO THE ROAD ISSUE IN, UM UM

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MR PRESIDENT. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR 23 2020 . 21 AND 23 DASH YEAR. 22 WILL TAKE THEM UP AT ANOTHER TIME. THANK YOU. COUNCIL BY MADE, LET'S TAKE A GOOD EVENING CHAIS

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]

[6. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS]

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LABEL CONTRIBUTIONS, BUT WE'RE REALLY GRANT SO WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT THE GRANT AGREEMENTS AND THE MONITORING CONTROLS AND THEN ALSO SOME THINGS THAT WERE LABELED GRANTS, BUT THEY WERE REALLY JUST CONTRIBUTIONS. UH UM. MANAGEMENT SAYS THEY ARE WORKING ON FIXING THAT THEY MOVED. UM ALL OF THE GRANT AND AID UH, CATEGORIES OF GRANT IN AID TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. UM ALSO, TOURISM IS CHANGING HOW THOSE GRANTS ARE BEING AWARDED IN THE MONITORING CONTROLS RELATED TO THAT SO UM MANAGEMENT EXPECTS THAT THE ISSUE WILL BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THEIR SYSTEMS. AH WE COMPLETED AN AUDIT OF LICENSES ISSUED ISSUANCE AND BUILDING CONTROLS. BASICALLY WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SOMEONE GETS A PROFESSIONAL LICENSE OR A DOG LICENSE THAT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE STEPS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THAT LICENSE, THEY RIDE WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION IS NEEDED. UM IF IT'S A PROFESSIONAL LICENSE THAT THEY'VE SHOWN THAT THEY'VE GOT RECIPROCAL EXPERIENCE, EITHER. WITH ANOTHER COUNTY OR THROUGH THE STATE LICENSING SYSTEMS. UH UM, THERE WERE NO ISSUES THAT WE FOUND IN THAT AUDIT. THINGS WERE, AS WE EXPECTED THEM TO BE.

WE ALSO DIDN'T AUDIT OF ZONING REQUEST. THIS WAS SEATED WHEN PEOPLE REQUESTED ZONING CERTIFICATES OR FILED AN APPEAL WITH THE BOARD OF APPEALS THAT ALL OF THE REQUIRED STEPS WERE TAKEN. UM AND THAT I'LL REQUIRE COLLECTED AGAIN. THERE WERE NO ISSUES THAT WE REPORTED COMING OUT OF THAT AUDIT. HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT PROJECT NOW. EARLIER IN THE YEAR, WE ADDED A HOTEL. UM THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE AUDITED EARLIER IN THE YEAR. UM WE FOUND THAT THE HOTEL OPERATOR WAS NOT PAYING REGULARLY. BUT WHEN WE DID THE AUDIT WE FOUND THAT THEY HAD ACTUALLY OVERPAID IN SOME CASES, SO THEY WERE BEHIND BUT ALSO OVERPAID. IT MOSTLY BALANCED OUT. WHATEVER THE CASES, THEY CLEAR THINGS UP WHEN WE DID THAT AUDIT. UM THERE ARE FOUR OTHER HOTELS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THEIR AUDITS IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. SO YOU ALL SHOULD SEE REPORTS ON THAT IN JULY. AH WE ARE ACTUALLY POSTPONING AN AUDIT OF, UH RECRUITMENT AND HIRING PRACTICES AT MANAGEMENT'S REQUEST. WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THAT PROJECT BACK TO AUGUST, SO I WOULD EXPECT TO REPORT ON IT IN OCTOBER. UM. WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER BILLING SYSTEM CONTROLS AT ITS PROJECT. WE ARE JUST GETTING INTO, UH THE FIELDWORK PHASE OF WE EXPECT TO ISSUE A REPORT ON THAT IN AUGUST. AND FINALLY, UH, PURCHASE CARD CONTROLS. WE LOOK

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THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THE AVERAGE CITIZEN HAS NO IDEA WHAT ALL YOU GUYS DIVE INTO ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. YOU DO FOLLOW THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL HEAR SIMILAR THINGS FROM MY COLLEAGUES COUNCIL. DO YOU WANT, MR GUTHRIE? HE DIDN'T FIND IT. ANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT OFFICE TOOK ANY TOP SECRETS HOME, DID YOU? I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY TOP SECRETS THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS, BUT NO, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT AND WE DIDN'T DO NOT FIND THAT TO BE THE CASE. IS THAT IT? MR JANE JORDANA CRYSTAL. THIS IS PHENOMENAL, SO I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK. IT'S A LOT OF EFFORT. AND I THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US INFORMED ALL YEAR LONG. UM JUST GOING OVER THIS REAL QUICK SEEING SOME OF THE STUFF IN THERE, AND I SEE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THE COUNTY IS ABSORBING AS THE INCREASE IN HEALTH CARE COSTS, WHICH IS 7% A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME WAGES COMING SHORTLY. 1.5% NOW 1.5% IN JULY, BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY REALIZES THAT THE 7% INCREASED COST COST IN HEALTH CARE. IS BEING ABSORBED BY THE BY THE COUNTY. I CAN TELL YOU THIS. I'VE I'VE I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. YOU KNOW, A FAMILY HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN IS UPWARDS OF ALMOST $3000 A MONTH. UM IT'S UNAFFORDABLE FOR A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE IN BUSINESS, SO IT IS A GREAT BENEFIT TO A LOT OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES. THEY JUST DON'T KNOW.

NOT ONLY COUNTY EMPLOYEES, BUT SCHOOL SCHOOL SYSTEM DOESN'T REALIZE THE COST OF HEALTH CARE INSURANCE IF THEY HAD TO GO OUT IN THE MARKET AND PAY FOR IT FROM THEMSELVES. IT'S QUITE QUITE EXPENSIVE, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THAT POINT. UM AND THANK YOU FOR THIS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR CHANDRA. DONNA. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE ELSE. THANK YOU, CRYSTAL.

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[10. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]

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DEVELOPMENT THAT IS WALKABLE. THAT IS, UM LESS COSTLY ON ROAD IMPACT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED WITHOUT HAVING TO GET INTO A CAR. UM AND IN THE LONG RUN THAT IF IT'S BUILT YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE ARE PROFITABLE TOWARDS THE COUNTY INSTEAD OF BEING A LARGE EXPENSE. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS TO DRIVE 20 MINUTES THEIR JOB 20 MINUTES TO THE GROCERY STORE THAT'S EXPENSIVE ON ROAD REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE TO THE COMMUNITY. UM AND BY ADDING THESE AMENDMENTS INTO THE BILL. IT'S ESSENTIALLY GUTTING THAT PURPOSE AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NEXT TO A BUSINESS ON A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UH PROPERTY, THEN YOU CAN STILL BUILD APARTMENTS INSTEAD OF ENCOURAGING THIS USE OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. UM I JUST STRUGGLED TO UNDERSTAND WHY COUNCIL MEMBER PENMAN IS INTRODUCING THIS, UM WHAT THE BENEFIT IS, UM YOU KNOW IF THE POINT IS YOU'RE AGAINST THE BILL, THEN JUST VOTE AGAINST THE BILL, BUT INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT THAT GUTS THE PURPOSE OF THE BILL. UM I JUST SEE HIS UNFRIENDLY ACTION AND I WOULD RATHER VOTE DOWN THE AMENDMENTS . AND THEN IF YOU'RE AGAINST THE BILL VOTE NO ON THE BILL, BUT TO AMEND THE BILL IN A WAY THAT NULLIFIES ITS PURPOSE. I'M JUST AGAINST THAT. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MR PENMAN? THANK YOU, MR BENNETT FOR YOUR CONCERNS, AND I NEVER SAID I WAS AGAINST THE BILL. OF THOSE COMING UP NEXT WEEK, AND THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY I WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE BILL. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT INTRODUCED TO BUILD 23 11 IS BASED OFF THE MIXED USE CENTER PRINCIPLES, WHICH IS ENCOURAGED BY THE COUNTY'S ADMINISTRATION IN THE CURRENT ZONING CODE. MIXED USE CENTERS CREATE HARMONIOUS COMMUNITIES THAT REDUCE THE BURDEN ON LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS ROADS, USE AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION, MEANING IF INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS, UH EXCUSE ME, MEANING IF THE RESIDENTS OF THESE COMMUNITIES CAN WALK AND UTILIZE NEARBY RESIDENTS, ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESSES RESTAURANTS, IT CREATES A CLOSER AND MORE INTERCONNECTED COMMUNITY.

SUBSEQUENTLY STRENGTHENING STRENGTHENING OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. THE AMENDMENT INTRODUCED TO BUILD 23 11 IS EXTENSION OF THE MIXED JUICE CENTER PHILOSOPHY REQUIRING THE MIXED JUICE CENTER TO BE ADJACENT END OF SUBSTANTIAL SIZE PASSED AMENDMENT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BE THREE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THANK YOU, MR PEMON. ANYONE ELSE? MR JAN JORDANA. SO. PART OF THAT BILL ADDS A UM, IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL RETAIL CONTAINING AN ESSAY EXCESS OF 50,000 SQUARE FEET YOU CAN PUT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THERE, WHICH THEN DOESN'T MEAN IT CONFORMS TO THE TO THE BUILDING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN THE B THREE. I JUST THINK, ADDING 50, ADDING A AN AMENDMENT TO ADD A PIECE OF LAND NEXT TO A MIXED USE TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. I'M NOT FOR THE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, MISS ADAMS? YES, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT I AM GENERALLY CONCERNED WITH THE PIECEMEAL NATURE OF THE ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING. UM I'VE BEEN HERE A SHORT TIME. BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES, AND I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A FULL COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE ZONING CODE. AND MAYBE IT'S TIME THAT A NEW CODE IS IMPLEMENTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE PENMAN. MR. JAN GIORDANO, NO. MR RILEY BOLSA DOES MR BENNETT MR. VINCE. MR. PRESIDENT. HI. MR GUTHRIE. MR PRESIDENT. WATER? YES. CAN YOU

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LET GO OF MY EARS. MR CARNEY APOLOGIZE. LET GO OF MY EARS. NO. SO THE BILL HAS THREE IN AFFIRMATIVE. FOUR IN THE NEGATIVE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH NINE TO BUILD 23-0 11. HAVE FAILED. AMENDMENTS TO BUILD 23 13 PMS, AMBULANCE TRANSPORT INCREASED RATES. AMENDMENT EIGHT AT THE REQUEST OF THE EXECUTIVE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. MEMBERS SWUNG THROUGH SEVEN AND AMENDMENTS. NINE THROUGH 16 MAY HAVE EMOTION. I MOVED TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH 79 THROUGH 16 MAY HAVE A SECOND SECOND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS, ONE THROUGH SEVEN AND NINE THROUGH 16. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON, MR PRESIDENT. STRUCK OUT THREE PENMAN, MR. JAN GIORDANO. I RILEY. MRS BALL SADDLES. BILL 23-13. YES, MA'AM. NO. MR BENNETT. THEY'RE BEING FIVE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ONE IN A NEGATIVE AND ONE ABSTENTION. THE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH SEVEN AND NINE THROUGH 16 TO BUILD 23-0 13 ARE HEREBY APPROVED AMENDMENT 17 TO BUILD 23-0 13. MR JAN JORDANA INTRODUCED AMENDMENT NUMBER 17, INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ON PAGE THREE STRAIGHT, BEGINNING WITH IN QUOTATIONS AND IN LINE NINE DOWN THROUGH MUNICIPALITIES AND QUOTATIONS IN LINE 17 INCLUSIVE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THIS AMENDMENT WILL BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING MAY HAVE EMOTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS 17 THANK YOU MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IT'S MOVING SECONDED TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS 17 TO BUILD 23 DOWN 0 13. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR GUTHRIE PENMAN, MR. JAN GIORDANO. I MR RILEY, MRS. BALL SADDLES? NO, MR BENNETT.

THEY'RE BEING FIVE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ONE NEGATIVE ONE ABSTENTION AMENDMENT 17 TO BUILD 23 LAST YEAR, 13 IS HEREBY APPROVED. AMENDMENTS TO BUILD 23-0 14 ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE. MR JAN JORDAN, PLEASE READ AMENDMENTS 59 THROUGH 90. WHAT IS THAT 97 INTO THE RECORD FOR INTRODUCTION. INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 59 ON PAGE SEVEN IN LINE EIGHT STRIKE 63,512,089 AND SUBSTITUTE 74,072,089. TO BALANCE FUND BALANCE APPROPRIATED FROM AMENDMENTS 11 13 AND 15 AMENDMENT NUMBER 16 ON PAGE SEVEN IN LINE 22 STRIKE 757,000,936. AND SUBSTITUTE 768,000,496. TO BALANCE TOTAL ESTIMATED REVENUES AVAILABLE FOR APPROPRIATION GENERAL FUND FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 10,560,000 AMENDMENT NUMBER. 61 ON PAGE 15 IN LINE 11 STRIKE 757,936,000.

SUBSTITUTE 768,000,496 TO BALANCE TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS GENERAL FUND FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 10,560,000 AMENDMENT NUMBER 62. ON PAGE 29 IN LINE 15 STRIKE 955 AND SUBSTITUTE 965,562,000. TO BALANCE TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 10,560,000 AMENDMENT NUMBER 63 ON PAGE 35 IN LINE 18 STRIKE 5,196,400 SUBSTITUTE 25,878,000

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AMENDMENT NUMBER 84 ON PAGE 57 LINE 17 STRIKE 1,525,000 SUBSTITUTE 3,775,000 TO BALANCE FEDERAL GRANTS FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 2,250,000. HMM. BREAK. TAKE A BREAK. AMENDMENT NUMBER 85 ON PAGE 57 IN LINE 19 STRIKE 12,114,000 SUBSTITUTE 15,721,000 TO BALANCE STATE GRANTS FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 3,607,000 AMENDMENT NUMBER 86. ON PAGE 57 LINE 21 STRIKE 5,196,400 SUBSTITUTE 25,878,040 . TO BALANCE DEVELOPER OTHER FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 20,681,600.

AMENDMENT NUMBER 87 ON PAGE 57 IN LINE 22 STRIKE 174,119,000. 200,657,600. TO BALANCE TOTAL ESTIMATED REVENUES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 26,000,538. 26,538,642 AMENDMENT NUMBER 88. ON PAGE 57 LINE. 23 M PARENTHESES STRIKE IN PARENTHESES 174,119,000 SUBSTITUTE AND PARENTHESES 200,657,640. TO BALANCE TOTAL ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR A TOTAL INCREASE IN PARENTHESES OF 26,538,000. AMENDMENT NUMBER 89 ON PAGE 59 AND 9 15 STRIKE 3,715,000 SUBSTITUTE 4,115,000 TO BALANCE STATE GRANTS FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 400,000 AMENDMENT NUMBER 90 ON PAGE 59 IN LINE 60 16 STRIKE 525,000 SUBSTITUTE 3,525,000. TO BALANCE DEVELOPER OTHER FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF $3 MILLION AMENDMENT NUMBER, 91 ON PAGE 59 AND LINE 17 STRIKE 11,790,000 SUBSTITUTE 15,190,002 BALANCE TOTAL ESTIMATED REVENUES FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 3,400,000. AMENDMENT NUMBER 92 ON PAGE 59 IN LINE 18 STRIKE 11 IN PARENTHESES 11,790,000 AND SUBSTITUTE IN PARENTHESES 15,190,000 TO BALANCE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF IN PARENTHESES 3,400,000. AMENDMENT NUMBER 93 ON PAGE 60 BETWEEN LINES NINE AND 10 INSERTS FOLLOWING OTHER 403,358 TO BALANCE OTHER FUNDS FOR A TOTAL INCREASE OF 403,358. AMENDMENT NUMBER 94 ON PAGE 60 IN LINE 12 STRAIGHT 20,186,000 AND SUBSTITUTE $20,589,358 TO

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BLACK 13 BALANCE THEIR BALANCING AMENDMENTS FOR FUN BALANCE AND TOTALED REVENUES AND APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET. UM THEIR AMENDMENTS NUMBER 59 THROUGH 62 , AND IT BASICALLY JUST INCREASES THE FUND BALANCE APPROPRIATED TO 10,560,000 FROM THE AMENDMENTS YOU PASSED LAST WEEK. THANK YOU MAY HAVE APPROVED A MOTION TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK. 13 COUNCIL PRESIDENT MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 13 CONTAINING AMENDMENTS 59 THROUGH 62 SECONDS. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE. VOTING BLOCK 13. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR PRESIDENT, MR GUTHRIE PENMAN. MR JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES. MR BENNETT. I. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE VOTING BLACK 13 IS HEREBY APPROVED. VOTING BLOCK 14 AMENDMENTS 63 THROUGH 66. THESE ARE BALANCING AMENDMENTS FOR THE GENERAL CAPITAL BUDGET. UM FUN BALANCING AMENDMENTS AS WELL AS APPROPRIATIONS. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 14 COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 14 CONTAINING AMENDMENTS 63 THROUGH 66 2ND. SECOND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. IN HIS SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK. 14 IS RANGER SPECIAL, MISS DIXON. MR MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN. MR GIORDANO, MR. RILEY SADDLES MR BENNETT I SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK. 14 IS HEREBY APPROVED. VOTING BLOCK 15 AMENDMENTS 67 AND 68. THIS IS TO BALANCE THE PARKS AND RECREATION CAPITAL BUDGET FUND BALANCING AMENDMENTS AND APPROPRIATIONS. UM THAT WAS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,400,000 THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 15 COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BOX 15 CONTAINING AMENDMENTS. 67 68 OF A SECOND. SORRY. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. LET'S MOVE IN A SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 15. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR GUTHRIE PENMAN ANDRADE. NOW MR RILEY, MRS. BALL SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK. 15 IS HEREBY APPROVED. VOTING BLOCK 16 AMENDMENTS 69 THROUGH 77. THIS IS THE WATER AND SEWER CAPITAL BUDGET, BALANCING AMENDMENTS AND APPROPRIATIONS AS WELL AS NUMBER 77 IS TO BALANCE THE TOTAL ALL CAPITAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION.

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21 COUNCIL PRESIDENT MOVED TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 21 CONTINUING AMENDMENTS 96 AND 97.

HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. THE SECOND TO APPROVE VOTING BLOCK 21. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES. MR BENNETT. I. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE VOTING BLOCK.

21 IS HEREBY APPROVED. AMENDMENTS TO BUILD 23-0 16 CHARTER AMENDMENT TERM LIMITS AFTER, UH A DISCUSSION WITH MR PEMON AND MISS SADDLES. THEY'VE DECIDED TO PULL THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION SO THE AMENDMENTS ARE NOT NEEDED. NUMBER 11 CALL FOR FINAL READING THE BILLS BILL

[11. CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS]

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NO. MR BENNETT. I BEING FIVE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO IN THE NEGATIVE BUILT 23-0 13, AS AMENDED, IS HEREBY APPROVED. BILL 23-0 14 ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE. AS AMENDED MAY HAVE EMOTION, COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVE TO APPROVE BILL 23-14 AS AMENDED 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. THE SECOND TO APPROVE BILL 23-0 14 AS AMENDED ISRAELI DISCUSSION . MR BENNETT. UM YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THE BUDGET PROCESS HAS BEEN VERY LONG. UM I DON'T KNOW IF THE DAYS OF ACTUALLY BEEN LONGER THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. UM BUT IT DEFINITELY HAS BEEN AN ARDUOUS EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. UM I DO WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. I'M PROUD OF WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN TO FROM WHERE WE STARTED. BUT ALSO BE CLEAR THAT WHERE WE STARTED WASN'T ACCEPTABLE. UM YOU KNOW, AND I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH, UM THE VOTE TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IMPROVED THE BUDGET IN A LOT OF WAYS IN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS BEEN OPEN TO AMENDMENTS TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. BUT THE SAME TIME AS IT STANDS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL NOT FUNDING ANY COLA FOR OUR LIBRARY WORKERS AND WE'RE STILL PUTTING OUR COMMUNITY COLLEGE SYSTEM IN A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE TO INCREASE TUITION COSTS WHILE OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTY OVER IN BALTIMORE COUNTY IS MAKING COMMUNITY COLLEGE TUITION FREE, UM AND WE'RE YOU KNOW. AND. AND WE'RE STILL PARTIALLY FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT USED TO BE FULLY FUNDED. YOU KNOW, LIKE THE $300,000 TO OUR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS HAS BEEN TURNED INTO $250,000, YOU KNOW, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT NO BUDGET CAN BE PERFECT OR HAVE EVERYTHING THAT I WANT TO HAVE IN IT. UM BECAUSE EVEN IF I WAS COUNTY EXECUTIVE, YOU KNOW THE COUNTY COUNCIL WOULD AMEND MY BUDGET AND IT STILL WOULDN'T BE EVERYTHING I WANT IN IT, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE LARGER THINGS I STRUGGLE WITH IS JUST HOW THE PROCESS WAS STARTED AND HANDLED AS FAR AS YOU NOT NEGOTIATING WITH ARE CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES AND GOOD FAITH. UM NOT MEETING WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN GOOD FAITH. UM NOT NOT MEETING WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND, UM AND, YOU KNOW, AREA EXPERTS AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR COMPONENTS OF THE BUDGET BEFORE CRAFTING THEIR PORTIONS OF THE BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH, AND I STRUGGLE WITH THE IDEA OF PUTTING MY YES ON THIS BUDGET, CONSIDERING THOSE, UM UM LIKE INSTITUTIONAL ISSUES I HAVE WITH THE PROCESS AND HOW WE'VE GOTTEN HERE. UM YOU KNOW, I'M VERY THANKFUL, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IMPROVE SCHOOL FUNDING BY $10 MILLION. BUT EVEN SO, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL SYSTEMS TALKING ABOUT CUTTING SUMMER TUTORING TO HELP PRESERVE POSITIONS AND MAKE THINGS FUNCTION FOR NEXT YEAR AND TALKING ABOUT NO LONGER EXPANDING SCHOOL SAFETY LIAISONS TO MAKE THINGS FUNCTION FOR NEXT YEAR. AND SO AGAIN, I HAVE A HARD TIME PUTTING MY YES. ON THAT. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD THING I UNDERSTAND. AND THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS A VOTE NO ON A BUDGET BY A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN HAVE RIPPLE EFFECTS. I'VE HEARD THE STORIES FROM PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS FROM PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE EVER TAKEN THAT ACTION. UM IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT THAT CULTURE EXISTS IN WHICH SOMEBODY CAN, UH , YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR DISTRICT THREATENED OR HELD AGAINST, WHICH HASN'T HAPPENED TO ME, BUT IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER THEIR DECISION ON A SINGLE VOTE. UM I HAVE TRUST AND FAITH THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD NOT TAKE THAT ACTION BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES THAT ARE TOO IMPORTANT TO LET SOMETHING LIKE THAT GET IN THE WAY. UM, BUT THE SAME TIME. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST IN A PLACE OF STRUGGLE AND BEING WILLING TO PUT, YOU KNOW. JACOB BENNETT STAMP OF APPROVAL ON THIS BUDGET AS IT STANDS, I HOPE THAT NEXT YEAR UM, WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES AND MEETING WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND MEETING WITH, UM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT IN THE FIELD, DOING THE WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THEIR NEEDS ARE MET, SO WE DON'T MAKE THOSE SAME

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ANYONE ELSE? MR PEMON? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM MR STAINLESS, MISS SPENCE, I REALLY DO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR PATIENTS ON DEVELOPING THIS I KNOW WE ALWAYS DIDN'T AGREE ON CERTAIN THINGS. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S A NEW ADMINISTRATION AND THERE HAS BEEN A LEARNING CURVE ON BOTH SIDES. BUT I WOULD ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN BENNETT HAD MENTIONED. THERE WAS SOME FRUSTRATION AND WE ARE IN A BETTER PLACE THAN WHEN WE STARTED FROM. AND YOU KNOW, AND IN THE SAKE OF COMPROMISE. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULDN'T COME OUT OF COMPROMISE AND EVERYBODY BE HAPPY. BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WE FAILED TO ADDRESS AND I BELIEVE IN PEOPLE.

WHEN YOU HAVE 1.5% NOT EVEN ON THE ENTIRE COUNTY WORKFORCE. THERE'S SOME THAT YOU KNOW, DIDN'T GET THE INCREASE, BUT 1.5% WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER 1.5% DOWN THE ROAD. IF WE DON'T INVEST IN OUR PEOPLE AND RECRUIT THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST, THE WHOLE ENTERPRISE FALLS APART, SO I HOPE THAT THAT'S RECONSIDERED NEXT YEAR. THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS ANOTHER CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD. I KNOW THAT'S ALREADY BONDED. WE TALKED ABOUT IT THIS EVENING. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN THE BUDGET, BUT I HOPE THAT MOVES FORWARD AS WELL AS THEIR POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ZEROED OUT, UM, IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE , UM, THE WORD THIS SALARIES UNLESS THE SHERIFF IS ABLE TO COME UP WITH HIS OWN OUT OF HIS OWN BUDGET HIMSELF. THOSE SALARIES WON'T BE PAID. SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. I DO APPRECIATE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE NEGOTIATING. YOU KNOW IT WITH SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS, UM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A BETTER, MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS NEXT YEAR WITH THAT, SO, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. MR PEMON, MR RILEY. JUST ONE THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT WAS NEVER AT THE TABLE AND HAS NEVER BEEN MENTIONED. AND THAT'S THE TAXPAYER HARFORD COUNTY. AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS BUDGET, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A YES FOR ME, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND ROBBING. UH, KIM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. MR. GUTHRIE I THANK YOU ALL. AND, UM I LIKE TO THANK THE FOUR NEW MEMBERS UP HERE, UM, NEW OLD AND, UM, THERE ARE EFFORTS ON THIS BUDGET. IT'S THERE. FIRST TRIP DOWN THIS LANE. AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. HAVEN'T DONE 12 BUDGETS BEFORE THIS. UM I KNOW HOW TOUGH THEY CAN BE. THIS WAS PROBABLY THE TOUGHEST ONE I'VE SEEN IN AND, UM, ABSOLUTELY OTHER 12 BUDGETS. BUT YOU WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT IT OVERALL AND ITS ITS F. YOU BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR ALL THE MANY MONTHS THAT WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT. IT. IT MAKES IT TOUGH TO VOTE AGAINST THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU CAN'T VOTE AGAINST THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET THIS THAT THE OTHER FOUR OR FIVE OTHER WHATEVER IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S NEVER CAN ANIMAL BUT THERE'S THOUSANDS OF ITEMS IN THIS BUDGET THAT ARE GETTING FUNDED AND YOU CAN'T SAY I DON'T WANT TO VOTE. I DON'T WANT TO, UH VOTE FOR HIS BUDGET BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THIS THING OR THAT THING OR THE OTHER THING. YOU GOT TO LOOK AT OVERALL AND YOU GOT TO SEE HOW WE SAID BEFORE. YOU KNOW YOU GOT TO PLAY WITH THE CARDS YOU GOT AND YOU GOTTA KNOW WHEN TO HOLD AND ONE THE FOLD. UM AND SO I'M A COMPLIMENT FOUR NEW PEOPLE DEALING WITH THE BUDGET THIS STUFF, BUT I I'M KIND OF JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TOUGH THIS BUDGET WAS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO ANOTHER BEFORE SO BUT I CONGRATULATE HIM FOR THE EFFORT THEY PUT FORTH AND, UH, A NUMBER OF WE'VE MET. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES IN OUR OFFICES AND TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE BUDGET AND, UM AND WE'RE HERE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MR BENNETT. UM JUST ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO SHARE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFERENCE CONVERSATION ABOUT YOU KNOW, IF MONEY LOOKS BETTER THAN WE EXPECTED TO THAT WE COULD MOVE MONEY TO THIS AGENCY OR THAT DEPARTMENT AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT I'M IN GENERAL AGAINST THAT PRACTICE.

UM YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOUR EMPLOYEE. UM ISN'T MAKING ENOUGH MONEY IN THEIR WAGES TO SURVIVE, SO YOU GIVE THEM A BONUS THIS YEAR TO PAY THEIR RENT? UM BUT THEN NEXT YEAR, THEIR CURRENT WAGES ARE STILL THE SAME. SO YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THE ISSUE. LONG TERM, I THINK IF PROJECTIONS OR IF YOU KNOW OUR REVENUE COMES IN BETTER THAN PROJECTIONS THAT MONEY SHOULD BE HELD ON TO AND THEN WE USE THAT FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, SO WE SET NEW BASELINES MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THE ACT OF OH, WE HAVE SOME MONEY HERE. LET'S GIVE A LITTLE BIT BONUS. UM IT PUTS A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF POWER AND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNTY

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TO SAY THE PROJECTIONS CAME IN OUR THE MONEY CAME IN HIGHER THAN PROJECTIONS WILL USE THAT TOWARDS NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, SO THAT OUR BUDGETS YEAR OVER YEAR REFLECT AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN GIVEN AND WE CAN KNOW WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT IS FOR EACH AGENCY MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MR JAN JORDANA.

WE'LL SEE SOMETHING TOO. SO I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS, UM, SITTING HERE FOR HOURS GOING THROUGH QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE THIS YOU KNOW, SOME DISAGREEMENTS WITH WHERE MONEY IS COMING FROM HOW MONEY IS BEING USED, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF BUDGETS, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THEM WERE VIRTUAL AND ONE OF THEM, I WAS OUT SICK, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY I'M GLAD TO SEE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, UM, NEGOTIATING. NOT EVERYBODY GOT EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANTED, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD STEP FORWARD. UM, I HOPE THAT WERE WERE WRONG AND THAT YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE INCREASED REVENUES. UM YOU KNOW THAT WE LOOK BACK LAST YEAR AND SEE.

OKAY WE DID DO BETTER. I HATE TO SEE US DO WORSE. I STILL THINK WE'VE GOT SOME HARD ROADS AHEAD OF US. UM SO I HOPE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, AND I HOPE WE CAN BE ABLE TO FIND THE OTHER 1.5% FOR THE OTHER EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE IN BETTER, BETTER FINANCIAL POSITION NEXT YEAR, SO, BUT I DO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR EFFORTS. ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR COMING FOR COMING IN LISTENING TO US GETTING BACK WITH US ANSWERING QUESTIONS. UM YOU'RE DEFINITELY PROFESSIONALS . YOU YOU COME BACK. WE HAVE QUESTIONS. YOU YOU SENT US BACK INFORMATION. UM THANKFULLY, WE HAVE CRYSTAL BROOKS, WHICH IS WHICH IS GREAT. SHE KEEPS US STRAIGHT. KEEPS ME STRAIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM AND I THINK EVERYBODY LEARNS A LITTLE BIT AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR EFFORTS. SO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. UM. I GUESS I'LL CLOSING COMMENTS JUST BY SAYING LET'S MISS SADDLED YOU HAVE ANYTHING. UM JUST BY SAYING I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR DOING ALL YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. WHETHER YOU'RE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. WHETHER YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR HOWEVER LONG YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR, UM, BUT I WANNA I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORTS THAT YOU PUT FORWARD. THE COMPROMISES THAT YOU MADE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION THE WAY THAT WE DID. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES BACK AND FORTH. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR LISTENING TO US. FUNDING NEARLY 85% OF WHAT WE SEND HIM. OVER AND ABOVE. UM, I APPRECIATE THAT. I AGREE WITH ALL THE COMMENTS MADE HERE THIS EVENING, MR BENNETT MADE SOME GOOD COMMENTS. MR. PEMON MADE SOME GOOD COMMENTS. UH MR RILEY MADE SOME EXCELLENT COMMENTS RIGHT ON DOWN THE LINE. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF WHERE WE'RE AT. SO FAR, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE OTHER WORK TO DO IN THE FUTURE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE ABILITY TO WORK. WITH OUR CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO HELP US HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHEN THAT BUDGET COMES FORWARD TO HELP US NAVIGATE THROUGH IT, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU. ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS OF BOTH, UM, ROBBIE AND KIM AND YOUR DEPARTMENTS. I KNOW YOU HAVE CHRISTINE HERE IN NEWARK ELDERS HERE, SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU, COUNTY EXECUTIVE. AND, UM WITH THAT, MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. TO BE SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ONE IN THE NEGATIVE BUILT 23-0 14, AS AMENDED, IS HEREBY APPROVED. AGAIN BILL 23-0 16 HAS BEEN PULLED BUILD 23 DANCE 0 17 SCHOOL BUS STOP ARM CAMERA FEES MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE BILL 23-17 MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IN A SECOND TO APPROVE BILL 23-0 17 IS READY DISCUSSION. MR BENNETT, UM YOU KNOW, BEING SAFE ON THE ROAD IS JUST SO CRITICAL. AH! THERE'S JUST BEEN SO MANY TRAGEDIES IN OUR COMMUNITY IN JUST THE PAST FEW WEEKS AND YOU KNOW, YOU WISH THAT YOU DIDN'T NEED ANY OF THIS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM PULLING AROUND A BUS WHEN IT STOPPED, BUT I'M THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE THIS AND THAT IT'S AN EXPANDING THING AND THAT WE'RE ALSO INCREASING THE PUNISHMENT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE

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[12. ENROLLMENT OF BILLS]

[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS]

THANK YOU, MR RILEY. SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 25-23 AS AMENDED HIS REIGN DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES MR BENNETT. SEVEN VOTES IN THE FURNACE ZERO AND NEGATIVE RESOLUTION 0 25-23. AS AMENDED, IS HEREBY APPROVED. RESOLUTION 0 27-23 GLENWOOD AVENUE PETITION ANNUAL ASSESSMENT, MR JAN JORDAN COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 27-23. THEY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. SECONDED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 27-23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE PENMAN MR JAN GIORDANO HIGH MR RILEY SADDLES MR BENNETT HIGH BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE RESOLUTION 0 27-23. IS HEREBY APPROVED

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IT'S MOVING SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 28-23 DISCUSSION. MS DICKSON PRESIDENT, MR GUTHRIE . MR PENMAN. MR JAN GIORDANO. MR RILEY, FULL SADDLES, MR BENNETT HIGH BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE RESOLUTION, 0 28 23 IS HEREBY APPROVED. RESOLUTION 0 29-23 AMENDMENT FRIES ROAD PUBLIC SEWER PROJECT ANNUAL ASSESSMENT , MR GUTHRIE, PRESIDENT MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 29-23. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A SECOND SO I CAN THANK YOU, MR JAN DRONA. THE SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION. 0 29-23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR. RILEY MRS. BULL SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN. VOTING AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE RESOLUTIONS HERE. 29-23 IS HEREBY APPROVED.

RESOLUTION 0 30-23 AMENDMENT MAGNOLIA ROAD PUBLIC SEWER PROJECT ANNUAL ASSESSMENT, MR GUTHRIE, MR PRESIDENT MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 30 23 THANK YOU MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR JAN GIORDANO. IT'S MOVING A SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION. 0 30-23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DICKSON. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JUNJI DANNO, MR. RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE RESOLUTION 0 30-23.

IS APPROVED. RESOLUTION 0 31-23 AMENDMENT WOODBRIDGE MANNER PUBLIC SEWER PROJECT ANNUAL ASSESSMENT, MR GUTHRIE. MR PRESIDENT. MOVEMENT TO IMPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 0 31-23 THANK YOU MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR JANITOR, DANNO. MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION. 0 31-23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MISS DIXON, MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE, MR PENMAN. MR JAN GIORDANO, RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO NEGATIVE RESOLUTIONS HERE 31-23 IS HEREBY APPROVED. RESOLUTION 35-23 PERFORMANCE AND OPERATIONAL AUDITS FISCAL YEAR. 2024 MAY HAVE EMOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 0 35 23. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN.

TO MOVE THE SECOND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION. 0 35-23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MS DEXTER. MR. PRESIDENT MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN DEANO, MR. RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND NEGATIVE RESOLUTION 0 35 23. IS HEREBY APPROVED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE INTRODUCTION OF BILLS WE HAVE NONE 13 UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE 14 NEW

[17. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS]

BILL WAYLAND, FOLLOWED BY JOHN MILLAR, MEL. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. 4 15, CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD. FELLER MARYLAND HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT , UM, LISTENING TONIGHT THAT WHENEVER AMENDMENTS WERE MADE TO A BILL THAT REALLY CHANGES, THE PURPOSE AND THE ENTIRE INTENDED THE BILL AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN HELD. I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE AMENDMENTS SHOULD BE APPROVED THAT SAME SESSION UNTIL FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, MAYBE EVEN ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AS HELL AND I DON'T INTEND THAT FOR CHANGES ARE MAKING WORDING. CORRECTIONS. I'VE HEARD THIS TOPIC IN THE PAST AND I THINK IT'S BEEN RIGHT BY THE COUNCIL, MR MERCEDES ON ANOTHER SUBJECT

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HARTFORD AIRPORT WAS GRANTED A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO OPERATE A JOURNAL AVIATION AIRPORT BY DECISION OF THE ZONING HEARING. EXAMINER DATED APRIL 16TH 2014 FINAL DECISION OF THE COUNTY BOARD OF APPEALS DATED 6, SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2014 AND OPINION AND ORDER BY THE CIRCUIT COURT OF HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND, DATED APRIL 14TH 2015 AND BASED ON MY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE ON OR ABOUT MARCH, 1ST 2017. MY OFFICE CONDUCTED THEIR REVIEW OF THE ZONING STATUS OF THE AIRPORT AND SENDING THE LETTER WITH OUR FINDINGS TO KEVIN HAS A COPY OF WHICH IS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT ONE. RECALL EXHIBIT ONE IS MR DAVENPORT'S LETTER TO MR HESS, REVERSING THE BOARD OF APPEAL'S DECISION AND REVIVING THE NONCONFORMING USE WITHOUT ANY BASIS. AIRPORT OWNERS MOTION FOR DISMISSAL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE AGREED AND DISCUSSING THE LEGAL STANDARD IN THE PROPOSED DECISION IN CONSIDERING A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUSTICE, AND IT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO DECIDE ANY ISSUE OF FACTOR CREDIBILITY BUT ONLY TO DETERMINE WHETHER SUCH ISSUES EXIST AND HOLDING THE AIRPORT IS OPERATING AS A PERMITTED A SPECIAL EXCEPTION PERMITTED USE.

AND THE MEA DOES NOT HAVE ZONING AUTHORITY. I KNOW THAT AN EXCEPTION TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES PROPOSED DECISION TO THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION THAT DESIGNATED APPOINTING AUTHORITY UPHELD THE PROPOSED DECISION HOLDING THAT HARFORD COUNTY AIRPORT IS OPERATING AS A PERMITTED USE BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION AND M A DOES NOT HAVE THE JURISDICTION OR CAPACITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL ZONING ORDINANCES.

MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, OFFERED NO RELIEF TO THE AIRPORT OWNERS AND REINFORCE THE AUTHORITY OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING CASE 58 14 AND UPHELD THE SAME HARFORD COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING CANNOT CLAIM THE FAA OR THE M A PREVENTS THEM FROM ENFORCING THE ZONING CODES AND ZONING DECISIONS OF ZONING CASE. 58 14.

THEY RETURNED THE ISSUE BACK TO ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AND PLANTING THIS RESOLUTION. NO DENYING THAT NOW WHICH ONE OF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PERMITTED USE AND A

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HE'S A MAGNIFICENT YOUNG LADY, A WONDERFUL AMBASSADOR FOR OUR TOWN, AND I WILL YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME DID YOU HAVE ON AWARD? BELLAIRE 2020. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. AS MICHAEL SAID, I AM GIOVANNA WARD , MISS BELLAIRE 2023 AT THE BELLA INDEPENDENCE DAY COMMITTEE MANAGES ALL THE CELEBRATIONS ON TUESDAY, JULY 4TH IN THE TOWN OF BEL AIR, MARYLAND. JUST QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR EVENTS. AT 6 45 AM WE HAVE A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY AT BELLA HIGH SCHOOL, THEN FOLLOW AT BAYLOR HIGH SCHOOL. THE PANCAKE BREAKFAST FROM 7 TO 11:30 A.M. AT ROCKFIELD PARK WILL HAVE THE HORSESHOE PITCHING FROM 8 30 AM TO TWO PM, FOLLOWED BY A SHAMROCK PARK FULL DAY OF ACTIVITIES AND GAMES, FAMILY COMPETITIONS AND CONTESTS AT BAYLOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE HAVE THE 11 A.M. BICYCLE RODEO. BALLARD JULY 4TH PARADE, WHICH I WILL BE LEADING AND BEING THE HONORARY GRAND MARSHAL, WHICH VERY EXCITED ABOUT AT 66 PM EXCUSE ME AND THEN BELLER JULY 4TH FIREWORKS SPONSORED BY JONES FUNCTIONS AT 9 30 PM SO THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR EVENTS FOR THE DAY FOR THE CELEBRATION, BUT ASMUS BELLAIRE, I CREATE A CSC, A COMMUNITY SERVICE INITIATIVE AND MINE IS CALLED ARTS ALL ACROSS WHERE I ADVOCATE FOR ARTS PROGRAMS AND FUNDING FOR ARTS PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT HARFORD COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY THROUGHOUT AS THE STATE. AS MISS MARYLAND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY STUDENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO ARTS EDUCATION, NO MATTER WHAT SCHOOL THEY GO TO. AS WELL AS INCLUSIVITY THROUGHOUT THE ARTS, MAKING SURE THAT ANYONE NO MATTER YOUR AGE ABILITY, ECONOMIC STATUS, ANYTHING HAS IT ACCESS AND ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN ARTS PROGRAMS. LASTLY I'M VERY EXCITED AND JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS. ACTUALLY I LEAVE FOR HAGERSTOWN'S WHERE I WILL BE COMPETING FOR THE TITLE OF MISS MARYLAND. AND SO MAYBE AT THE END OF THE WEEK BY JUNE, 20/4. I COULD BE COMING BACK HERE AS MISS MARYLAND, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY COOL, BUT OVERALL, JUST REALLY, REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY REPRESENT ONE TOWN ONCE YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND SO BEING A NATIVE BORN AND RAISED FROM BEL AIR, MARYLAND. I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED TO REPRESENT ALL OF BEL AIR, MY FAMILY AND EVERYONE FROM BEL AIR, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR WARDEN. WE WISH ALL THE BEST. BEST. BRONSTEIN GENSKE, FOLLOWED BY KATE MACDONALD. MIKE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL RON SUSHINSKY 3 19 MARINA AVENUE. ABERDEEN, MARYLAND, PERRIMAN PENINSULA. UM NOT REALLY SURE I CAN TALK ABOUT PAT. UH, I'M GONNA START WITH THIS. YES I AGREE WITH YOU ONE REWRITING THE ZONING CODE AND FIXING PART OF OUR CODE. BUT I DO WANT TO READ WHAT OUR ZONING COAST SAYS. THAT PROTECTS NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE COMMUNITIES OF PFOSTEN AND OTHER COMMUNITIES IN OUR AREA. ZONING CODES ENACTED TO SUPPORT THE MASTER PLAN DESIGNED TO CONTROL TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON PUBLIC ROADS, PROVIDE ADEQUATE LIGHT AND AIR AND TO PROMOTE THE CONSERVATIVE CONSERVATIVE NATION. CONTROVERSY LATE, HMM.

EDIT THAT, HMM. NATURAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING THE PRESERVATION OF PRODUCTIVE AGRICULTURAL LAND TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSING OF DIFFERENT TYPES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY'S PRESENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS TO PREVENT ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTION TO AVOID UNDUE CONCENTRATION OF POPULATION AND CONGESTION. TO FACILITATE THE ADEQUATE PROVISION OF TRANSPORTATION, WATER, SEWAGE SCHOOLS. RECREATION PARKS AND OTHER FACILITIES TO GIVE REASONABLE CONSIDERATION, AMONG OTHER THINGS, FOR THE CHARACTER, EACH DISTRICT AND ITS SUITABILITY FOR PARTICULAR USES WITH A VIEW TO CONSERVING THE VALUE OF BUILDINGS, ENCOURAGING THE ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT AND MOST APPROPRIATE USE OF LAND OF LAND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND TO SECURE SAFETY FROM FIRE, PANIC AND OTHER DANGER AND TOO

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[16. BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS]

KIDS LOVE IT, SO COME OUT AND SUPPORT THAT. UM AND THEN, UM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE INDEPENDENCE DAY PARADE IN BEL AIR. BELLA HAS GOT A COUPLE OF GOOD PARADES. UH INDEPENDENCE DAY IN THE CHRISTMAS PARADE. SO, UM LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND WE HAD A BIG GOLF TOURNAMENT FOR THE SOCIETY OF AMERICAN ITALIAN AMERICAN BUSINESSMAN RAISED PROBABLY ABOUT 35,000 BENEFIT ARC AND ACTION AGENCY, SO WE GOT IT THROUGH THE RAIN, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF HAPPY PEOPLE WITH, UH YOU KNOW, WE DONATE THE MONEY, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GENDER. DANNO. MR PENMAN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT . I WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE PRESENTATION OF FROM THE MARYLAND STATE COMPTROLLER LAST WEEK. FROM WHAT WAS DESCRIBED IN RESEARCH ALL THE REVENUE AND THE STATE REVENUE FUND IS RETURNED

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FORTUNATELY THERE IS ANOTHER AVENUE THROUGH REFERENDUM AND SIGNATURES THAT WILL BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, BUT I DO WANT TO CONVEY MY APPRECIATE APPRECIATION FOR COUNCILWOMAN BULL SADDLES FOR YOUR CO SPONSORSHIP ON THAT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON OBTAINING THE SIGNATURES WITH THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU. MR PRESIDENT HAS SOME SAD NEWS. GUESS SO. SOME OF YOU PROBABLY SAW THIS THAT BELOVED ELEMENTARY JOPPATOWNE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER DIED IN A FIERY AUTOMOBILE CRASH OVER THE WEEKEND, AND I MET HER A COUPLE OF TIMES AT THE SCHOOL, AND SHE'S GOING TO BE SURELY MISSED. UM MRS PRINCIPLE, JUST JESSICA BAJAJ CARD WHO MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HER ON SHE SAID MRS CLARK SPACING. WHAT HAS AFFECTED ALL OF US VERY DEEPLY. WE MUST NOW FOCUS OUR CONCERNS ON THE WELL BEING OF OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF AS THEY LEARNED TO COPE WITH THIS TRAGIC LOSS. SO MY BEST TO THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. SURE, IT'S UM IT'S A TERRIBLE TIME AND SHE WAS ONLY 35 YEARS OLD. AH! ALRIGHT I WANTED TO, UH, TALKING ABOUT REAL QUICK AMOUNT THE UH AH. THE BILL PASSED THE TIPPING FEE PAYERS IN BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I JUST GOT A RECENT LETTER FROM UM , UH, FROM THE SOUTHWEST PEOPLE PICK UP THE TRASH IS CFL AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT IT. AND WHAT SAID SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE NUMBERS WERE RIGHT. AND UM, THEY WERE, BUT I WANTED I WANT TO TELL YOU WHERE THIS MONEY IS AND WHY IT'S THERE AND WHY IT HAS TO BE THERE. BECAUSE I CALLED MY FRIEND JOHNNY ASSESS KEY, JOHNNY OH, WHO'S A WHO'S THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OF BALTIMORE COUNTY IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, AND I CAME UP THROUGH THE LABOR MOVEMENT TOGETHER. AND TO GET CONFIRMATION OF THESE DIFFERENT FEES. AND HE SAID THE BILL INCREASED TIPPING FEES FROM $72 A TON TO $117 A TON. THIS IS 62.5% INCREASE IN TIPPING FEES DRASTICALLY INCREASES THE COST. DISPOSED IN HARFORD COUNTY. NOW THAT'S WHAT WAS DROPPED ON THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES. LOT GET YOU CAN TRY TO BLAME HIM OR YOU WANT, BUT THIS IS EXACTLY THE COST. UM THAT I GOT FROM BALTIMORE COUNTY THAT WE WERE PAYING $72 FROM NOW GOING TO BE PAYING 117 SO THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A PENNY ON IT.

UM AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS, ACCORDING TO JOHNNY. OH, THE. UH THE LANDFILL WHERE THEY'RE WORKING OUT, STARTING TO GET FILLED AND THEY WERE USED HAD TO GO AND USED ON MOTHER LANDFILL.

AND WHEN THEY DID, UM, THE COMPANY THAT THEY'RE DEALT WITH RAISING THEIR TIPPING FEES THAT GO TO THE OTHER PLACE. SO UM, WHAT JOHNNY TOLD ME, HE SAYS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SEND OUT NEW BUILD NEW BIDS IN JULY. UM GET NEW BIDS FOR THIS, UM, CONTRACT AND HE EXPECTS THAT THEY WILL GET THEM WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THAT, AND THEN THEY WILL LOOK THEM OVER. AND IF THEY GET A CONTRACT THAT SOME LESS THAN IS THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT JUST LIKE THEY DO HERE. THEY GOTTA BRING HIM BEFORE THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THEY'RE KIND OF COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE IT.

AND IF THERE'S A SAVINGS, HE SAID, HE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH ME AND COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB CASSILLY AND PASS THOSE SAVINGS ALONE TO HARFORD COUNTY. UH ONE OF THE THURSDAY LAST THURSDAY MYSELF AND IMPACT. THE SCENT ATTENDED THE YORK NORTHERN REGENT CAPITAL ANNUAL MEETING OVER AT THE WATER'S EDGE. IT WAS THEIR SUBMARINES ANNIVERSARY SHOW WAS GOING TO GIVE THEM THEIR PROCLAMATIONS HONORING THEIR SEVENTH ANNIVERSARY, AND, UM, WITH MY GRANDSON THERE, BECAUSE HE IS AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, HE'S IN ONE OF THE YORK UH , HOUSES AND USUALLY PICK THEM UP EVERY WEEKEND, AND WE WILL THE SUN BECAUSE OF MY FATHER'S DAY. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT.

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HARVARD COUNTY RECOGNIZED, I THINK 61 LEGACY FARMS IN OUR COUNTY. AND IT WAS AMAZING TO REALIZE THAT SOME OF OUR FARMS HAVE BEEN IN OUR FAMILIES. FOR OVER 400 YEARS. AND IT'S JUST CAN'T HARDLY BELIEVE IT TO BE HONEST, BUT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT . WELL ATTENDED. UM SECRETARY ADDICTS. MARYLAND DEPARTMENT. AGRICULTURE WAS OUR GUEST SPEAKER THERE. UM, BUT ALSO EVEN MORE INSPIRING WAS THE GRADUATION CEREMONIES THAT WE WENT TO FOR BOTH HARFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGES FUTURE LINKS WITH I THINK IT WAS SIX GRADUATES AND THEN THE HARTFORD ACADEMY WAS FIVE IF YOU EVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO, YOU SHOULD GO. UM MR GUTHRIE WAS THERE WITH US. MR RILEY WAS AT THE FARM EVENT. UM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WAS THERE ALONG WITH SENATOR GALLEON DELEGATE RILEY. DELEGATE GRIFFITH THAT WAS IT WAS. IT WAS A PACKED HOUSE SO PROBABLY CLOSE TO 400 ATTENDANCE. I WOULD THINK UM SO JUST JUST. ALL OF US STAY EXTREMELY BUSY. I SAY IT EVERY WEEK AND I CAN'T EMPHASIZE IT TO REALLY EXPLAIN HOW BUSY COUNCIL MEMBERS STAY AND THE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT THEY ATTEND, BUT. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WHEREVER WE CAN BE, UH AND WANT TO THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT,

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