Oct 02, 2023 County Council

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RACHEL MY BOOKS. CHAIR CALLS THE WATER PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 23 DASH YEAR 26 AMENDMENTS TO

[a. Bill 23-026 (Amendments to Zoning Code Sections 267-4;267-60;267-126-Warehouse)]

COULD OCCUR IF MANUFACTURING SECTORS RESTORED GROWTH AND COMPETITIVENESS. MANUFACTURING IS THE FOURTH. LARGEST INDUSTRY BY GDP, BEHIND REAL ESTATE, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND HEALTH CARE. AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A QUOTE HERE BY DR WILLIAM LA PLANTE, WHO'S THE UNDER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE. FOR ACQUISITION AND SUSTAINMENT. AS AN ENGINE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH.

AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS CONTRIBUTE MORE THAN 2.35 TRILLION TO THE U. S ECONOMY.

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ALRIGHT. PAGE ONE. LINE NUMBER THREE INDICATES THE COUNTY STUDY THE IMPACT OF ASSISTING PROJECTS OR POTENTIAL PROJECTS. YOU HAVE THE RESULTS OF THOSE STUDIES THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL. OKAY I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WITH ME RIGHT NOW. LET ME SEE WHAT WE HAVE BACK IN OUR OFFICE. WERE THOSE STUDY RESULTS OR DATA CONSIDERED IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S DESIGNED OF THIS LEGISLATION. BILL 23 26. AGAIN COUNSELOR FOR THAT SPECIFIC ONE. I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DIRECT PART OF THAT. LET ME SEE WHAT WE HAVE, UM, BACK IN OUR OFFICES, AND I CAN FILL YOU IN ON THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS THAT I HAVE. BUT IF THE STUDIES ARE BUILT UPON THIS PRODUCT RIGHT HERE UM, I WOULD. WOULDN'T.

WOULDN'T IT JUST KIND OF BE ASSUMPTION THAT THE DATA WAS DRIVEN AND GIVEN AND YOU KNOW, INCLUDED IN THIS THIS LEGISLATION HERE. SOME OF THE DATA IS WHAT I HAD SAID TO YOU.

THIS IS THE STATISTICS THAT I GAVE TO YOU. SO THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GATHERED IN IN COMING UP WITH THOSE STATISTICS. WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION BACK AT THE OFFICE. ALL OF THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO YOU LATER. SO NOT THE . GIVE IT LIKE DO WE KNOW WHEN LATER BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD ALREADY BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE COUNCIL. IF WE WANTED TO BE CONSIDERATE OF WHAT WAS PUT INTO THIS BILL HERE, BASED OFF THE DATA. I MEAN, I CAN ONLY SAY THAT I CAN GO BACK FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND START GETTING THINGS TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON STILL ON PAGE ONE LINE NUMBER FIVE. THE BILL INDICATES THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND PROGRESSED SINCE THE ZONING CATEGORY WAS CREATED IN 1982. SO MY QUESTION. WHAT'S CHANGES HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE LAST MASTER PLAN USE IN 2016. OF COURSE. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. COUNCILMAN PAYMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2016, HARTFORD. NEXT, THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC IN THAT MASTER PLAN THAT REFERENCES WAREHOUSING. THERE ARE DEFINITIONS IN THAT MASTER PLAN THAT TALK ABOUT WAREHOUSING AS THEY RELATE TO THE MIXED OFFICE DISTRICT AND OTHER DISTRICTS. BUT THERE'S BEEN NOTHING SPECIFIC IN THE MASTER PLAN INFORMED THIS LEGISLATION. SO. WHEN YOU SAY THE CHANGES

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ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE SINCE THE MORATORIUM. ALL OF THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN USED TO CREATE THIS LEGISLATION AND TO MAKE THE DECISIONS TO PUT THE LANGUAGE IN HERE. GREAT POINT BECAUSE THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS AFTER RESULTS OF THE STUDIES , THE RESEARCH THE EVALUATIONS THE MEETINGS, THE ADMINISTRATION DRAFTED AN EMAIL LEGISLATION TO THE COUNCIL ON AUGUST 14TH THAT ALLOWED FOR 1 MILLION SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE AND THAT LEGISLATION IS HERE. IN THE EMAIL. IT SUGGESTED THAT 1 MILLION SQUARE FOOT VERSION WAS DESIGNED BASED OFF OF COMBINATION OF SUGGESTIONS ON THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATION IN THE COUNCIL ASSUMEDLY FROM THE DATA DRIVEN FROM THE STUDIES. SO IF ALL THE STUDIES AND ALL THE MEETINGS AND ALL THE DATA THAT WAS COMPRISED WAS WAS BUILT UPON THE LEGISLATION. THIS WAS THE FIRST VERSION SO THE QUESTION IS SO IF THE DATA PRODUCED THIS, HOW DID WE GET TO BUILD 23 26? COUNCILMAN PENDANT. I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO A DRAFT YOU SAID AUGUST 14TH? YES, SIR. THAT DRAFT WAS SENT OVER IN THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE TO HAVE BEEN OUT THERE THAT ARE A MILLION SQUARE FEET, AND IT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO SAY THERE'S THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT PATHS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FOR WHAT IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE COUNTY. SHOULD WE LOOK AT ALLOWING WAREHOUSES UP TO A MILLION

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I HAVE. IS THAT WHAT TOOK PLACE? WE'LL TAKE THIS MORNING. THIS LEGISLATION, AS I'VE SAID IN PREVIOUS TESTIMONY BEFORE THE COUNCIL. IS NOT DIRECTED AT ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT. IT IS TO LOOK AT HOW WAREHOUSING IMPACTS THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS WITHIN THE COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, AND THE FACT IS, IS THAT WHILE WE HAVE A DWINDLING INVENTORY OF INDUSTRIAL LANDS, WHERE INDUSTRIAL USES AND WAREHOUSING USES CAN GO. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PROPERTIES WON'T BE REZONED IN THE FUTURE. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY WILL, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE GO THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE REZONING PROCESS EVERY EIGHT YEARS. AND YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE THESE TYPES OF USES THAT COME IN THE FUTURE THAT WE WILL HAVE TO EVALUATE AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU, MR GRAHAM.

COUNTER I THINK IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, I MEAN, YOU HEARD THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE THAT MIKE TO YOU. YOU KNOW, WITH THE NUMBERS THAT THAT, UM MR BLAH SIGHTED RELATIVE TO, UH, WAREHOUSE INCOME VERSUS UM MANUFACTURING INCOME. THOSE THAT WHOLE, UH NAPOLI OF NUMBERS THERE UM. CITIZENS INPUT OF FOLKS YOU'VE HEARD YOU SEE HERE TODAY THEIR INPUT AND PUT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM BUSINESSES WITH WHAT YOU GOT WAS JUST THAT IT WAS AS THE AS THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IS MARKED ITS DRAFT. IT'S THE FIRST ROUGH COPY BASICALLY SOLICITING. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? UM YOU KNOW, NUMBERS COULD BE PALATABLE. LET'S SEE WHERE WE GO. WHAT OTHER NUMBERS SHOW, SO THAT'S ALL THAT IS. THAT'S A DRAFT AND I GET THAT MR RICHARDSON, BUT IT'S A IT'S SUCH A STARK DIFFERENCE FROM 1 MILLION TO 250,000. BUT. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN? COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRODUCT, BUT WHAT WE'LL MOVE ON UM LINE NUMBER 17 ON PAGE ONE DISCUSSES ECONOMIC IMPACT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THE ATTACHED FISCAL NOTE CAPTURES THE TRUE ECONOMIC IMPACT. THAT'S WHY I SUBMITTED A REQUEST TO THE ADMINISTRATION ON SEPTEMBER 15TH IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 31 06 OF THE COUNTY CODE REQUESTING A FISCAL IMPACT FROM PLANNING AND ZONING BASED OFF THE POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS TO THE MASTER PLAN PERTAINING TO THE FOLLOWING MATTERS AND THIS IS IN THE CODE. THE PROJECTED POPULATION TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT NUMBER OF UNITS, NUMBER OF ACRES, TYPES OF SERVICES FACILITIES, NECESSARY EXPENDITURES NECESSARY TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND FACILITIES. THE TOTAL NET REVENUE AND THE INCREASE AS ACCESSIBLE TAX BASE TO BE GENERATED BY THE PROPOSAL AND ESTIMATE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TOTAL ANNUAL PROJECTED NET FISCAL IMPACT. THE FISCAL IMPACT NOTE SHALL REPRESENT THE IMPACT FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS IN A PROJECTED IMPACT FOR THE NEXT THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS. SO WAS THAT REQUEST, EVALUATING AND COMPLETED IN COURT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COUNTY CODE. WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THAT I'VE MET WITH TREASURY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ANALYSIS. AS YOU KNOW, THE CHARTER GIVES THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING IS ONLY FOUR WEEKS TO PREPARE THAT ANALYSIS ONCE IT IS REQUESTED, AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT AND ANALYSIS WILL BE FORTHCOMING. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. UH DURING THE PHYSICAL ANALYSIS, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS BILL, WHICH BASICALLY MADE AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY NON CONFORMING. UM. AS DEFINED NONCONFORMING USES IS A USE THAT EITHER HAS EXISTED EITHER PRIOR TO THE ORIGINAL COMPREHENSIVE ZONING AFFECTING THE PROPERTY OR HAS BEEN PERMITTED BY THE ZONING REGULATIONS IN THE PAST, BUT IS NO LONGER PERMITTED BECAUSE OF AN INTERVENING CHANGE IN THE LAW . THEREFORE IN SUMMATION OF THE RECENT MARYLAND SUPREME COURT CASE FROM PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY UM, CONCERNING NONCONFORMING USES THOSE WAREHOUSES IN HARFORD COUNTY THAT ARE OVER 250,000 SQUARE FOOT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BECOME COMPARED INCOMPATIBLE.

EXCUSE ME, POSE A FORMIDABLE THREAT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE HARFORD COUNTY ZONING CODE AND ACQUIRE AN INJURED PROPERTY VALUES. THOSE WAREHOUSES INCLUDE AND I HAVE A LIST OF THEM HERE.

UM. MACY'S OVER 1 MILLION WAYFAIR OVER 1 MILLION THE CONTAINER STORE 720,000 SQUARE

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FOLKS YOU KNOW THE PROCESS HERE . PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL AS SPEAKER. IF NOT, I WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED, OKAY? SO WITH THAT THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT THE PASSAGE OF THIS LEGISLATION ALL THOSE BUSINESSES NONCONFORMING ESSENTIALLY DEVASTATING THE LOCAL TAX BASE ASSOCIATED WITH THE INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRY, SO TO A POINT THAT NONE OF THOSE IF THEY WANT TO RESALE WOULDN'T BE WORTH AS MUCH AND IF THEY WANTED TO EXPAND, THEY COULDN'T EXPAND. SO I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS WERE MADE WHEN THIS BILL WAS DRAFTED, AND THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE THE LOCAL IMPACT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF HARFORD COUNTY COULD FACE. WHERE THEY CONSIDERED. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESSES AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND PERRIMAN. THE EASY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, THEY WOULD BECOME NON CONFORMING AS THEY WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH THE CODE. IF THIS LEGISLATION WAS PASSED DO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THAT AT ALL? KIND OF SHUT DOWN AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY. I WOULDN'T SAY IT SHUTS DOWN AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY. WHAT IT DOES IS WE TYPICALLY GET LETTERS FROM THESE COMPANIES THAT LOOK AT WHEN TRANSFERS THAT HAPPEN FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AND THEY ASKED WHETHER A PROPERTY IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT WHETHER IT'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION OR, IN SOME CASES, MAYBE EVEN EVEN AN ILLEGAL USE. THAT'S NOT TYPICAL , BUT WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THOSE AND I CAN ONLY ASSUME NOT BEING IN THE COMMERCIAL. REAL ESTATE OR LENDING INDUSTRY THAT THAT HAS SOME TYPE OF IMPACT, TOO. THOSE TRANSACTIONS. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THAT WITH RESPECT TO NOT CONFORMING USES IN THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE PERFORMING USES CAN CONTINUE UNABATED THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO CEASE AT ANY TIME. WHAT IT DOES IS THE CODE SAYS THAT IF NOT CONFORMING USE WERE TO BE EXPANDED IN THE FUTURE. IT SETS OUT SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT EXPANSION, AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF APPEALS TO BE APPROVED. I THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE, BUT WE'LL MOVE ON. UM I JUST WANT TO GO TO PAGE THREE LINE 13. WHERE DID YOU REALLY JUST DEFINES WAREHOUSING BUT CURIOUSLY, REMOVES THE WORD WAREHOUSING AND ALMOST THE ENTIRE BILL, REPLACING IT WITH THE WORDS STORED SO JUST A THOUGHT. PERHAPS MAYBE STORAGE SHOULD BE DEFINED RATHER THAN WAREHOUSING, SINCE WE'RE JUST REMOVING THAT ALTOGETHER FROM THE LEGISLATION. UM PAGE FIVE.

LINE NUMBER THREE. THE BILL DISCUSSES BUILDING HEIGHT, WHICH SHALL BE 42 FT. WHAT WHAT IS THE STANDARD HEIGHT OF A WAREHOUSE IN HARFORD COUNTY NOW AND THEN MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE IF THE TOTAL BUILDING HEIGHT CAN BE ADJUSTED BASED OFF OF THE DECREASING OR INCREASING OF THE BUFFERS. I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. WITH STANDARD HEIGHT OF THERE ARE WAREHOUSES ALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. OBVIOUSLY. AND OR GENERALLY LARGE BUILDINGS THAT SERVE MANUFACTURING TYPE USES, AND THOSE HEIGHTS ARE ALL DEPENDENT UPON THE TYPE OF USE THAT'S WITHIN THAT FACILITY, AND EACH OF THE ZONING DISTRICT HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR SETBACK AND HYPE QUESTION RELATED TO SETBACKS AND INCREASE IN HEIGHT. ZONING CODE HASN'T FOR A LONG TIME ALLOWED FOR AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT WHEN THE SETBACK IS INCREASED AT A ONE FOR ONE RATIO, SO LET'S JUST SAY YOUR SETBACK. FRONT YARD SETBACK WAS 40 FT. AND YOU INCREASE THOSE SETBACKS, THEN YOU COULD GO UP BY THE SAME AMOUNT ON FOOT . THE LEGISLATION WOULD PERMIT IT TO BE TALLER THAN 42 BASED OFF THE SETBACKS. THE WAY THE LEGISLATION READS. IT DOES NOT SPEAK TO THAT SECTION OF THE CODE. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD BE PLACED WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS AND THERE'S GENERAL GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS FOR ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS LEGISLATION DOESN'T TOUCH SO THEY COULDN'T INCREASE THE HEIGHT AND NO, I'M SAYING THAT THAT THAT LEGISLATION OR THAT PART OF THE EXISTING REGULATIONS IS NOT TOUCHED BY THIS. OKAY? UM . THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS A KIND OF AN IMPORTANT ONE IS ON PAGE

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ON STARTING PAY VERSUS WAREHOUSING AND MANUFACTURING JOBS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOOTPRINT AND THE LOCAL IMPACT AND WE'RE KIND OF MOVING AWAY REMOVING WAREHOUSES FROM AN ENTIRE PERMITTED USE ZONING CLASSIFICATION WHEN REALLY MADE MANUFACTURING STILL HAS THAT EVEN MORE OF AN IMPACT. WHEN YOU AGREE. I WOULDN'T AGREE. I WOULD SAY THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF MANUFACTURING. THERE ARE VARIOUS DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANUFACTURING THAT ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE ZONING CODE AND THE DIFFERENT SIGNING DISTRICTS AND AS YOU GET IN MORE INTENSITY IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY GI AND I'LL JUST STEP BACK FOR A MINUTE TO GIVE CONTEXT. THERE ARE C I, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS, I'D SAY THE LEAST INTENSE. OF INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THAT DISTRICT. THEN YOU HAVE ALLY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHERE YOU'RE GONNA FIND TECHNOLOGICAL TYPE USES. MANUFACTURING TYPE USES, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY THE OFFICE RESEARCH INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT MANY YEARS AGO, WHICH WAS DEDICATED TO ADVANCING USES THAT WERE RELATED TO OFFICE RESEARCH AND INDUSTRIAL. AND THEN YOU HAVE G I GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND GENERAL INDUSTRIAL IS WHERE YOU TYPICALLY FIND YOUR HEAVY, HEAVIEST TYPE MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIAL USES LIKE ASPHALT MANUFACTURING. CONCRETE PIPE MANUFACTURING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, SO IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT IT'S IN AND THE MANUFACTURING USE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. ALRIGHT SO NEXT FEW QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF TECHNICAL AND I KIND OF GO THROUGH THEM REALLY QUICKLY ON PAGE 10, YOU HAVE TWO LINES 11 AND 15 TO TALK ABOUT 1.5 SPACES PER EMPLOYEE, UM AND THEN ONLINE 15 IT TALKS ABOUT STAGES SPACES. WHY WHY? TWO FOR EVERY LOADING DOCK? I JUST IS THAT AN INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR BOTH OF THOSE WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IN THE RESEARCH THAT I DID TO INFORM THIS LEGISLATION , I LOOKED AT VARIOUS DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. A LOT OF INFORMATION WAS GATHERED FROM NEW JERSEY AND PENNSYLVANIA THAT ARE THOSE STATES AND THEIR JURISDICTIONS ARE ARE DEALING WITH ISSUE OF LARGE WAREHOUSING AND THE IMPACT AND THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA, PUT OUT GUIDANCE TO THEIR COUNTIES AND BOROUGHS AND TOWNSHIPS OF HOW THEY SHOULD LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF THINGS THROUGH A MODEL ORDINANCE. AND THAT IS WHERE THAT WAS GATHERED FROM. WOULD YOU MIND FORWARDING THAT OVER SO I CAN USE THAT FOR EVALUATION ON THE LEGISLATION AS WELL? UM AND THEN, UH, AND ON PAGE 18 LINE, 20 IT TALKS ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEM BASICALLY NEED APPROVAL FOR THE MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEM. AND I JUST DON'T DON'T UNDERSTAND. UM WHY THAT IS THE CASE WHY THE COUNTY WOULD BE REGULATING INDUSTRY OR WAREHOUSING AND MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEMS IN THEIR LEGISLATION. I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, AND I THINK THAT THE WORD MUNICIPAL MAYBE BEING MISCONSTRUED HERE AS REGULATING A MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEM. WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION IN THE COUNTY WHEN PROVIDING WATER AND SOAR TO USE IS THAT THEY MEET THE STANDARDS AS SPECIFIED IN THE A P F O, AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF WHAT PUBLIC WORKS, REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES SPECIFIC TO WATER . WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ADEQUATE WATER PRESSURE AND QUANTITY OF WATER IS AVAILABLE TO SERVE THAT SITE SPECIFICALLY

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WHAT THIS DOES IS JUST TAKE IT AND SAYS INSTEAD OF THE THEY DEVELOPER CONTRACTING WITHIN THE COUNTY WILL CONTRACT IT AND MANAGED THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. HOW WERE THEY? HOW WILL THAT COMPANY GET CHOSEN, OR IS IT JUST KIND OF ROTATION? WHICH COMPANY GETS CHOSEN, OR IS IT JUST ONE COMPANY? EVERY WOULD BE TYPICALLY, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE THROUGH THE TYPICAL PROCESS THROUGH PROCUREMENT AS WE WOULD WITH ANY IN THE PAST. I CAN GIVE YOU KIND OF A RELATABLE THING. BACK WHEN WE WERE DOING A LOT MORE. WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE CELL TOWERS IN THIS COUNTY. THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT SO AS A REQUIREMENT THAT CODE TO LOOK AT RADIO FREQUENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO IMPACTS FROM RADIO FREQUENCIES FROM CELL TOWERS ON EMERGENCY OPERATION AND THEIR RADIO FREQUENCIES AND WE CONTRACTED WITH A FIRM THAT HAD THAT SPECIFIC EXPERTISE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION. SO WE WOULD DO THE SAME THING WITH A TRANSPORTATION FIRM. THANK YOU. JUST TWO MORE QUICK. FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. UM IN THE CONCERN I HAVE. IS THIS THE PASSAGE OF THIS BILL CONFLICT WITH THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS OUTLINES THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND MERRIMENT. I WOULD NOT SAY THAT IT CONFLICTS WITH THE MASTER PLAN. SPECIFICALLY I WOULD REFER TO THE LAND USE PLAN. AND THE LAND USE PLAN IS WHAT DESIGNATES AREAS OF THE COUNTY BASED ON A BROADER. BROADER THAN JUST SPECIFIC ZONING DISTRICTS. IT MIGHT SAY HIGH INTENSITY, LOW INTENSITY THOSE THINGS, SO IT'S STILL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE MASTER PLAN SHOWS FOR. THE PERRYMAN PENINSULA. AND ALSO FOR THE GREATER HARFORD COUNTY. IT JUST SHOWS DIFFERENT AREAS OF LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND THEN THOSE EARNING CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE FIT WITHIN THOSE DESIGNATIONS. SO I DO NOT SEE IT AS SPECIFICALLY CONFLICT. WOULD YOU SAY THIS? THIS BILL WAS DERIVED BASED OFF OF ONE PROJECT ONE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. NO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MR. PRESIDENT, MR BENNETT. UM. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT. I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS. UH SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO MEET.

YOU'VE ALWAYS RESPOND TO EMAILS FOR MONTHS. NOW YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD HEATED MEETINGS, BUT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD MEANINGS. UM SO YOU KNOW, I WANT TO RESPECT EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE TONIGHT, AND WE HAVE THREE HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA USE 45 MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT UM I DO WANT TO ASK. I NOTICED THAT IN THE LEGISLATION, A LOT OF THESE REQUIREMENTS SPEAK TO WAREHOUSING SPECIFICALLY VERSUS , YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSING AND FREIGHT TERMINALS, AND I WORRY ABOUT THAT POSSIBLY CREATING A SITUATION WHERE THOSE REGULATIONS DON'T APPLY TO FREE TERMINALS. UM COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND ALSO SPEAK TO IF THAT IF THAT IS AN ISSUE IF THAT WOULD BE RESOLVED BY REPLACING WAREHOUSING WITH FACILITIES AS A AS A WORD IN THE CODE SO THAT YOU KNOW ANY FACILITY IN G, I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME STANDARDS WHETHER IT'S CLASSIFIED A WAREHOUSE OR A FREIGHT TERMINAL. LET ME TRY TO UNPACK THAT QUESTION. RIGHT TERMINAL, AS YOU KNOW, WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY DEFINED IN THE ZONING. AND THE INTENT WAS TO GIVE IT A DEFINITION. BUT WE DID NOT TAKE IT ANY FURTHER TO GIVE SPECIFIC GUIDANCE OR REGULATIONS TO FREIGHT TERMINALS IN THIS SECTION. IF IT SAID FACILITIES INSTEAD OF WAREHOUSING WOULD THEN THOSE REGULATIONS BE APPLICABLE TO FREIGHT TERMINALS.

I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT SOME MORE. AND I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER THIS EVENING. UM THAT'S CURRENT. THAT WAS CURRENTLY JUST MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS I WAS GOING THROUGH MY NOTES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN MONTHS OF WORK, A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF DRAFTS, NOT JUST ONE DRAFT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE SENT MULTIPLE THINGS TO YOU. YOU'VE SENT THINGS BACK TO US MANY MEETINGS.

UM, A LOT OF WORK, AND THIS IS IT TAKES AWHILE TIME BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX, INTRICATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION INFORMED BY THINGS GOING ON IN MANY STATES THAT WE HAVE TO READ THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND. IN ORDER TO REALLY GRAB HOLD OF THE ISSUE . SO AGAIN JUST THANK YOU VERY

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OKAY AND THEN, UM, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY STUDIES DONE AS WHAT OTHER USES, WE COULD HAVE TO GENERATE JOBS AND TAX INCOME ON THESE UNDEVELOPED PIECES OF LAND. C, I G I L I THAT'S A QUESTION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THERE. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR CHARLES. MR GENDER, DENNIS. QUICK, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM LARRY. THANK YOU, MR WASTE. THANK YOU, MR GRIMM. THANK YOU. SO, UM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. HOW MANY TRIPS PER HOUR OR IS IT DISTRIBUTION CENTER? UM A LARGE MILLION SQUARE FOOT DISTRIBUTION CENTER PRODUCING PER HOUR. DO WE KNOW THAT ANSWER. I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER WITH ANYBODY HAVE THE ANSWER. WE CAN GET THAT I WORK WITH MY TRANSPORTATION. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND A MANUFACTURING FACILITY. I MEAN, IF DISTRIBUTION CENTER IS DOING , YOU KNOW, 10 TRUCKS PER HOUR AND MANUFACTURERS, YOU KNOW, ONE FOR EVERY TWO HOURS, SO JUST JUST CURIOUS ONE THROUGH ON THAT ONE, SAYING THAT WE GO BY THE ICTY MANUAL MANUALS IS ACCEPTED MANUAL. UM ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT GIVES DIFFERENT TRIP GENERATION RATES FOR DIFFERENT USES. WHETHER THE MANUFACTURING WAREHOUSING, AND IT EVEN GOES A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON WAREHOUSING AS A TYPE OF WAREHOUSING, MANUFACTURING. DIFFERENT TYPES OF MANUFACTURING GENERATE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRIPS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO GET YOU THOSE TRIP GENERATION RATES. I JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, UM GOING BACK TO THE, UM. THE ROAD SITUATION WHERE SOMETHING IS NOT FINISHED. UM. LIKE THE WOODLAND ROAD, I GUESS IS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. UM AND I KNOW IN THIS SITUATION WE HAD PRIOR AND WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT NOW IS, UH, THE PROPERTY IN BEL AIR ON ON PLUMTREE. BEFORE WALMART. WAS GOING TO BUILD, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT WAS THEY HAD TO IMPROVE THE INTERSECTIONS OF SEVEN DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS BEFORE, UM THEY WERE GONNA NOW THAT DIDN'T MEAN AS PER OUR CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD THAT WALMART COULDN'T GO IN BUILDER FACILITY, BUT THEY HAD TO BEFORE THEY OPENED UP THAT FACILITY THEY HAD TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS OF SEVEN ROADS. SEVEN INTERSECTIONS ALONG THE WAY IS THAT IS THAT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION? I APOLOGIZE. I'M NOT EXACTLY UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTIONS IN RELATION TO MY QUESTION IS WITH WITH THE ROADS AND EVERYTHING EXAMPLE BEING BEL AIR VILLAGE DOWN THERE THAT ONE POINT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A WALMART STORE, BUT WALMART WALMART IN ORDER TO FINISH THAT PROJECT HAD TO IMPROVE SEVEN ROADS AT A COST OF MAYBE $15 MILLION. THEY DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROAD JUST LIKE TODAY. SOMEBODY CAN GO IN BUILD, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS AND DOWN ERIN. THEY CAN BUILD THAT RETAIL MIXED USE, AND IT CAN ALL BE DONE, BUT THEY WOULDN'T GET THEIR USE AND OCCUPANCY UNTIL THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WERE COMPLETED UNLESS THERE WAS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, CORRECT. THE WAY THAT IT CURRENTLY WORKS WITH IMPROVEMENTS IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY IDENTIFIES WHAT INTERSECTIONS ARE FAILING, HAVE A FEELING LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THEN THE CODE AND OUR GUIDELINES SPECIFY THAN WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE. AS FAR AS IMPROVEMENTS. AND THEN THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. WE WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER TO DETERMINE AT WHAT POINT THOSE INDIVIDUAL IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE. PUT IN PLACE OR, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE MAY SAY, OKAY, THIS IMPROVEMENT NEEDS TO BE DONE. BY THE 100 UNIT. BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS BONDED NOW BONDAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN. THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL LETTER OF THE PARLIAMENT PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL LETTERS SPECIFIES WHEN THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS ARE TO TAKE PLACE AND BE COMPLETED. WHO DETERMINES THAT WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETE BEFORE THEY CAN OCCUPY THAT, SO IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO GO BUILD THIS, AND WHO SAYS HEY, YOU'VE GOT TO IMPROVE THESE SEVEN ROADS

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THAT WAS VACANT FOR PERIOD OF TIME, AND THAT WAS JUST SPLIT UP INTO FOUR SEPARATE UNITS. UM ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT FACILITY AND WHAT THEY WERE SPLIT UP FROM WHAT THE ORIGINAL SIZE WAS. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT SPECIFIC PERSONA INTERESTED, ARE YOU? YES, SIR. I THINK IT WAS BEL CAIN. RIGHT? ST. SIR I DO NOT. UH, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO A LOT OF BUSINESSES. UM I TALKED TO SOME COMMERCIAL ESTATE GUYS. SOME OF THEM ARE NOT NOT TOO HAPPY. UM BUT THEN ALSO I TALKED TO A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN NEED OF SPACE BETWEEN 25 AND 250,000 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY CAN'T FIND IT LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE EMPLOYING A LOT OF PEOPLE. HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING. I'M HEARING THAT FROM MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT I CAN'T FIND 25,000. I CAN'T FIND 50,000 . I CAN'T FIND 100,000. OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A MILLION SQUARE FOOT, IT'S OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO. THAT'S PROBABLY ONLY LIMITED TO A FEW PEOPLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS. UM. SHANE I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING AVAILABLE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. ANSWERING QUESTIONS, UH, BRINGING FORTH INFORMATION. I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF DELIVERING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR TONIGHT IN A TIMELY MANNER. WE HAVE A DEADLINE FOR THIS, AND WE WANT TO MEET THAT DEADLINE WITH NO HESITATION SO WITH THAT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, AND MS DIXON BEFORE YOU OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, WE SET THIS SCHEDULE FOR TONIGHT SO THAT WE COULD GIVE EACH

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WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? PRESIDENT INCENTIVE FOR YOU CONTINUE. CAN I JUST ASK, UM, THERE WAS A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD AND INFORMATION THAT YOU WANTED. ARE YOU ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH THAT LIST? OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THERE ARE 36 SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. AGAIN. JUST BE MINDFUL OF EACH OTHER, RESPECT EACH OTHER AND CALL YOUR FIRST SPEAKER. NO CLAPPING, NO APPLAUDING. UM I HATE TO PUT ANYBODY OUT ON THE STREET, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY DO IT. WE WANT TO MOVE THROUGH THIS AND HEAR EVERY VOICE TONIGHT. I'M GONNA TRY TO DO IT BY FOURS. THIS TIME PREPARED. FOURS. YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU GET ON THE ARK TO HEAR YOU. I HEAR YOU PLAYING GOLF HERE. CALL YOU FIRST SPEAKER, LACI, FOLLOWED BY AIR EON OH, AIRY, ARIANA AND BENDA PILLOW, LAMARI. ARAVINDA. CHUCK MUSEUM IN AND BRENDA PATTON. MM HMM.

HMM. TEST 123 NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE PALOCCI 3 20 MARINE AVENUE IN PERRYMAN. YOU CAN FIX IT. UH HARFORD BILL NUMBER 23-026 IS A POSITIVE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKE HARFORD COUNTY ZONING LEGISLATION AND RULES MORE COMMUNITY FRIENDLY, MORE TRANSPARENT. WANT TO THANK THE CASUALTY ADMINISTRATION AND JACOB BENNETT FOR WORKING TOGETHER OVER THE SUMMER ON THIS IMPORTANT UPDATE THE HARFORD COUNTY ZONING LAWS. YOUR PICK PROCESS OF THE PAST REALLY ONLY BENEFITTED A FEW LARGE DEVELOPERS. LARGE LANDOWNERS AND THEIR ATTORNEYS. THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO BEND AND CHANGE THE RULES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND EXISTING BUSINESSES. THE TIME OF ANYTHING GOES, NEEDS TO STOP BEFORE ALL THE WOODS AND FARMLAND IN HARFORD COUNTY HAS PAVED OVER AND REPLACED WITH MULTI FAMILY HOUSING. BIG BOX RETAILERS AND MEGA WAREHOUSES. LET'S PRESERVE THIS PRESERVE THE SMALL DOWNTOWN FIELD BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE AND UPDATE THE ZONING LAWS TO OUR CURRENT REALITIES AND THE MODERN AGE OF THE SMARTPHONES. OVERNIGHT FRONT DOOR DELIVERIES. UPDATED VISION OF DEAD POLITICIANS FROM 30 YEARS AGO, NEVER FORCED ALL THE EFFECT OF THE AGE OF THE INTERNET, SMARTPHONES AND SOON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. WE'LL HAVE ON BUSINESSES AND COMMERCE IN HARFORD COUNTY. AND THE, UH AND OVERDUE FOR MODERNIZATION, AND THESE LAWS ARE OVERDUE FOR MINOR IZATION. THIS BILL NEEDS SOME IMPORTANT UPDATES AT THREE P S WORK WITH JACOB TO ADD AS AMENDMENTS CLOSE ALL THE LOOPHOLES THAT AND BRING IT IN LINE WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS IN THE MANDOLIN IN A MINUTE, LAGGING REGION. LIMIT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. 250,000 SQUARE FEET IN DB B THREE L I C I AND G. I ZONES LIMIT BUILDINGS. 150,000 SQUARE FEET IN C I L I AND GI ZONES WOULD ADDED RESTRICTIONS. REMOVE FREIGHT TERMINALS FROM B THREE AND C I ZONES MAX BUILDING HEIGHTS OF 42 FT. MAX BUILDING COVERAGE PER LOT TO 40. MAX. IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE PER LOT. TO 60. STRENGTHEN REQUIREMENTS FOR LARGER BUFFER YARDS AND BERMS, ESPECIALLY NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS.

NO PARKING OR STAGING AREAS PERMITTED WITHIN DRINKING WATER SOURCE PROTECTION AREAS. NO GRADING PERMITS ISSUED UNTIL REQUIRED ACCESS ROADS OR COMPLETED AND OPENED TO TRAFFIC LIKE WOODLEY ROAD. TO ROUTE 7 15. THANKS. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ARAVINDA PILLOW. MURRAY 7 12, SOUTH SHAMROCK BELLAIRE. I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER. I DIDN'T HAVE

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THINK WE'RE ALL ADULTS. I THINK WE CAN FIND A WAY. TO SAVE ABINGTON WOODS NOW I'M TOLD THAT THIS BILL WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH HAS A LIMIT OF 250,000 SQUARE FEET. PERHAPS IT'S BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE. BUT EVEN THAT CONCERNS ME AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT ANY AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT COME UP. I'M WORRIED ABOUT I MEAN, IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUT THE IDEA THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW FREIGHT TERMINALS WHICH WOULD STILL UM CAUSED THE LOSS OF THE FOREST AND ABINGTON WOODS, I THINK ALL OF YOU ALL SHOULD FIND A WAY TO PREVENT THAT. I YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF VACANT WAREHOUSES ALREADY IN THAT AREA. AND UM, I THINK EARLIER PEOPLE, I THINK, MY COUNCILMAN JOHN GIORDANO SAID THAT THERE ARE MANY BUSINESSES LOOKING FOR WAREHOUSES THAT CAN'T FIND THEM. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A YOU KNOW THAT WILL WHAT YOU COULD DEFINITELY HELP THEM CONNECT WITH SOME OF THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE SPACE AND NOT PAVED THE WAY FOR MORE. I HAVE HEARD CONCERN ABOUT THE RESALE VALUE OF WAREHOUSES. I DON'T THINK THAT OUR PRIMARY GOAL SHOULD BE PROTECTING THE RESALE VALUE OF WAREHOUSES WHEN WE KNOW THAT PART OF THE YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BUILD THE WAREHOUSES, MAYBE THEY ALREADY HAVE AN EYE ON THE RESALE VALUE, NOT ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING GOOD JOBS IN THIS DRIFT DISTRICT LAST WEEK, ONE TREE CAPTURED THE ATTENTION OF THE WORLD WHEN IT WAS SENSELESSLY CUT IN ENGLAND, EVEN IF. PEOPLE TOLD ME THERE WAS NO POINT SPEAKING TONIGHT. IS THERE NO ONE TO STAND UP FOR EVERY TREE AND BRING YOUR ABINGTON WOODS? THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. WELL I'LL SCOOT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL CHUCK MUSEUM. 18 12, PART BEACH DRIVE. ABERDEEN. I COME TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE INTENT OF BILL 23 26. WHICH IS THE LESSON THE INTENSITY AND THEREFORE IMPACTS PLACED ON COMMUNITIES FROM LARGE MEGA FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. AND THAT BEING ALL FIVE AREAS OF THE AMENDMENTS PROVIDED BY THREE P SHOULD BE APPLIED TO THE BILL TO ENSURE THAT THIS INTENT TRANSFER TRANSLATES INTO VALUABLE ZONING LAW. AND THAT REMOVES ANY DEVELOPER LOOPHOLES.

AND I DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE SUCH LOOPHOLE, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF A BUILDING.

CURRENTLY CURRENT ZONING LAW CAPS WAREHOUSE HIDE AT 40 FT. FOR L I 36 WAS CI HOWEVER, DEVELOPER LOOPHOLE EXISTS IN CHAPTER 2 67-60 SUBSECTION C PRINCESSES FIVE TITLED MODIFICATION OF HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AND READS MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT MAY EXCEED IF SIDE AND REAR YARDS OR INCREASED BY WIDTH AND DEPTH BY ONE ADDITIONAL FOOT FOR EVERY 1 FT OF EXCESS HEIGHT. SO ALTHOUGH MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS DEFINED IN THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS USE CHARTS, IT IS ALLOWED TO INCREASE FROM THIS MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO AN UNLIMITED HEIGHT. WITH THIS CLAUSE AND LAW ON A LARGE LOT. THERE LITERALLY IS NO MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO A WAREHOUSE. THIS DEVELOPER LOOPHOLE IN THE ZONING LAW IS WHAT PROVIDED THE MITCHELL FORUM FREE TERMINAL TO GROW FROM THE INITIAL 40 FT. HIGH. TWO IT'S NOW CURRENT PLAN OF 65 FT HIGH. THIS WAS A 63%

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EVERY ONE OF YOU UP THERE ON THE DAIS HAS SAID THAT YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF A HEALTHY CHESAPEAKE BAY PROCLAIMED YOUR SUPPORT FOR FIRE POLICE AND OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS. TALK IS CHEAP. YOUR ACTIONS WILL SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. I ASKED YOU TO SUPPORT 23 26 AND SHOW THAT YOU STAND WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND FIRST FUND THANK YOU, SIR. MIKE MASON, FOLLOWED BY PROPELLER. JAMES CARMEL AND PARKER MITCHELL. GOOD EVEN SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MIKE MASON, 158 ACKERMAN DRIVE AND STEVENSVILLE. UM COME HERE TODAY BEFORE YOU COUNSEL IS RESPONSIBLE POLICY ADVOCATE AND ALSO ON BEHALF OF JUST SPEAK REAL ESTATE GROUP. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 18 MONTHS NOW GOING BACK AND FORTH. UM THE PROGRESS OF WHERE WE STARTED AND WHERE WE ARE HERE. I JUST HAVE TO SAY I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED IN THE CATHOLIC MINISTRATIONS FOR THEIR LACK OF PREPAREDNESS TONIGHT. NO DPW DIRECTOR TO ADDRESS A PF, NO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO DIRECT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE NO STUDIES, NO MEETING MINUTES. AND POSSIBLY A VIOLATION OF THE MEETINGS ACT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING SO LARGE. WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT TOGETHER TO KIND OF COLLABORATE ON THIS CHESAPEAKE HAS COME. FRIDAY TO PLAN GOING BACK TO TALK TO MR CASTELLI ON THIS PLAN. WE'VE GONE THROUGH MANY DIFFERENT STEPS TO DONATE LAND TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY AT GREEN SPACES OPENED UP HAVE WATER ACCESS OPENED UP FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOTHING BUT JUST A BAIT AND SWITCH AGAIN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BOTH MY CLIENT AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL.

SPEAK REAL ESTATE GROUP STANDS HERE TODAY, WILLING TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY AND GENUINELY COME TOGETHER AND STUDY THIS AREA AND TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THIS AND WORK WITH EVERYBODY TOGETHER BY CLOSING DOWN, MANUFACTURING AND CLOSING DOWN YOUR BIGGEST ECONOMIC DRIVERS, IT IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE TAX BASIS IN THIS COUNTY. AND THE FUTURE ECONOMIC GROWTH. IT'S A MESSAGE THAT SENDS REGIONALLY WE TALKED ABOUT MIDDLE CLASS AND THE

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MANUFACTURING AND R AND D. NO ONE ASKED THE QUESTION HOW BIG OF A MANUFACTURING FACILITY CAN BE BUILT THERE. THAT'S THE QUESTION. THERE IS NO SIZE LIMITATION ON THAT. AND NO ONE'S ASKED THAT QUESTION HERE TODAY. CAN THEY BUILD A 234 MILLION SQUARE FOOT BUILDING? IF THE RIGHT TENANT COMES ALONG THAT THE CASTLE ADMINISTRATION ONCE YOU'RE IN THE COUNTY? THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE ASKING. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT AS A COMMUNITY WITH THE DEVELOPER HERE TODAY, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. IS THAT QUESTION? GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, EMMA. PILLAR 14 47 REDFIELD ROAD, BEL AIR. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF BILL 23-0 26 WITH THE ADDITION OF AMENDMENTS. THESE AMENDMENTS SHOULD INCLUDE THE ASSURANCE THAT FORCE AND WETLAND SHOULD BE PRESERVED EVEN AND ESPECIALLY IN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. TAX INCENTIVES SHOULD BE GIVEN ONLY TO REVITALIZE EXISTING EMPTY WAREHOUSE SPACE AND NOT TO CLEAR, MORE FORESTED LAND. AND THAT HEAVY USES SHOULD NOT BORDER RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO PROMOTE SAFETY OF CITIZENS. MANY OTHERS HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TONIGHT, AND WE'LL SPEAK ABOUT THESE DESIRED AMENDMENTS MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I COULD. SO I'LL KEEP IT SIMPLE. MY PRESENCE HERE TONIGHT BOILS DOWN TO TWO REQUESTS. SAVE ABINGTON WOODS AND PROTECT PERRIMAN PENINSULA. DEAL WITH SOME OF YOU AND OTHERS BEFORE YOU HAVE FAILED TO DO.

PUT CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY OVER THE DEVELOPERS WHO FIGHT FOR YOUR FAVOR AND TRY TO FILL YOUR POCKETS. PUT THE PRESERVATION OF FORCE AND RIVERS FIRST TO ENSURE CLEAN AIR AND CLEAN WATER.

PEOPLE OVER PROFITS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM, SEE AND HEAR THESE PEOPLE ASKING YOU TO LISTEN AND ACT IN THEIR BEST INTERESTS AS YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO. CLOSE TONIGHT WITH A QUOTE I'VE SHARED WITH YOU MANY TIMES BEFORE THE REMAINS RELEVANT AS EVER IN THIS FIGHT. ONLY WHEN THE LAST TREE HAS DIED. AND THE LAST RIVER HAS BEEN POISONED. AND THE LAST FISH CAUGHT WELL, YOU REALIZE THAT WE CANNOT EAT MONEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. HELLO GOOD EVENING, JAMES CARMEL, 12 07. STIRLING COURT ABINGDON, MARYLAND. UM I'M HERE TODAY TO STRONGLY VOICED MY OPPOSITION TO SB 23-026 IN ITS CURRENT FORM. BECAUSE I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ANY GREEN LIGHT TO WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT IN HARFORD COUNTY WITH THEIR NEGATIVE COMMUNITY IMPACTS, SO I ENCOURAGE THIS COUNCIL TO PLEASE INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN SUPPORT, MORE WAREHOUSE BUILDING AND THESE IN LIKEWISE DEVELOPMENT TO THINK ABOUT ANOTHER MORATORIUM, AN INDEFINITE MORATORIUM ON THIS TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION UM, AS LONG AS THERE ARE VACANT WAREHOUSES IN HARFORD COUNTY. UM UM, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS IN THE CURRENT BILL TO CONTROL THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THIS WILL CONTINUE TO ENABLE THE CONTINUED DESTRUCTION OF ABINGTON WOODS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN IN HARTFORD COUNTY RESIDENT AND PROUD HOMEOWNER FOR OVER A QUARTER CENTURY. AND I'VE BEEN PROUD ABINGTON RESIDENT FOR OVER NINE YEARS IN THE OLDER PART OF ABINGDON. AND I LOVE LIVING IN THIS VERY RELATIVE KIND OF QUIET HARTFORD, PART OF HARFORD COUNTY, VERY CLOSE TO THE SITE OF THE HISTORIC 17 75 SIGNING OF THE DECLARATION AND ALSO VERY NEAR THE SITE OF THE HISTORIC COAX BERRY COLLEGE, SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THIS PRISTINE, RELATIVELY PRISTINE AND HISTORIC PART OF HARVARD. ACCOUNT. I DRIVE BY ALMOST EVERY DAY AND THE ALREADY PARTIALLY DESTROYED . ABINGTON WOODS IS A VERY TROUBLING I SORE. I'M VERY CONCERNED IT WOULD BE MUCH, MUCH WORSE DEVELOPED WITH THE WAREHOUSES. PUTTING THAT DEVELOPMENT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF A QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE A DISASTER FOR RESIDENTS. AND AS SOMEONE MENTIONED TODAY, WE OFTEN HAVE ISSUES WHERE I 95 GETS STUCK OR BACKED UP LIKE TODAY WITH THAT TRUCK HITTING THE ROUTE 24

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IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR SEPARATE EFFORTS TO DIMINISH OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS. IT STARTED WITH AN ILLEGAL MORATORIUM WAS VETOED BY THE LATEST COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

CONTINUED WITH THE DECISION NOT TO PROCESS CHESAPEAKE SITE. PLAN APPLICATION WHEN THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION TOOK OFFICE. NEXT CAME THE MORATORIUM THIS YEAR TO STUDY WAREHOUSE ISSUES. NO STUDIES WERE STARTED OR COMPLETED. EVEN THOUGH THE MORATORIUM WAS EXTENDED. NOW THIS BILL CREATES RIDICULOUS RESTRICTIONS AND ATTACKS NUMEROUS EXISTING HARFORD COUNTY BUSINESSES. THESE COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IN THE COUNTY. MILLIONS IN TAX RIGHT? THESE COMPANIES PROVIDE THOUSANDS OF JOBS AS WELL. YOU WILL HEAR FROM MANY OF THEM TONIGHT, LIGHTING MANY OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE BILL. I SAT IN MEETINGS BETWEEN CHESAPEAKE AND THE COUNTY FOR OVER FOUR MONTHS. INCLUDING THE COUNTY TAKEN, MINISTER SPEAK CHANGES TO THE PLANET. THE SUGGESTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION. AND THE MEETINGS PRODUCED THE CONCEPTUAL AGREEMENT. IN FACT, IN THE LAST MEETING ON AUGUST 30TH. THE MAIN TOPIC WAS HOW TO WORK WITH THE HARTFORD LAND TRUST. TO PRESERVE PROPERTY AND PROVIDE A BIGGER BUFFER. IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PLAN WOULD NOT BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY PENDING LEGISLATION. LATER THAT EVENING, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE MET WITH THREE P GROUP. PROUD WAS VERY HOSTILE TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AS HE PRESENTED HIS PLAN HE ENDORSED. IS OVER. REACTION TO THAT MEETING WAS THIS TERRIBLE ROAD LEGISLATION? PROPOSED JUST TWO DAYS LATER. THE ALLIES EARNING HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 27 YEARS.

THERE WAS A LITTLE OPPOSITION AT THE TIME WAS EARNING WAS IMPROVED. MOST OF THE PEOPLE APPROACH OPPOSED TO OUR PROJECT MOVED TO THE AREA AFTER THE ZONING WAS IN PLACE. THEY DID NOT RESEARCH THE ZONING. PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. AND THEY DIDN'T NEED TO MOVE TO CARRY. I MEAN, CLOROX. HAS BEEN FOR ROCKS. HAS BEEN IN THE COUNTY SINCE 1992 AND THAT INDICATED THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AH PROFILE ENVELOPE. HARFORD COUNTY , WHICH PERRYMAN IS IN AND IN AN ENTERPRISE. SO THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES WITH THIS BILL. I JUST SHOULD BE REJECTED. TO ADMIT IT WILL BE VERY COMPLICATED AND INEVITABLE. MORE HARMFUL PARTS OF THANK YOU, SIR. GLENN GILLIS , FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE FLASH, CHUCK MCMAHON AND KEN SHANNON. PRETTY ABSURD NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. GLENN GILLIS, 1936 PARK EACH DRIVE IN PERRIMAN. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF THE INTENT OF THE BILL 23-26. TO FORTIFY THE ZONING CODES FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITIZENS OF HARFORD COUNTY. FOR TWO YEARS, THE CITIZENS OF PERRIMAN AND THEIR ADVERSE ADVOCACY GROUPS PROTECT MERRIMENT PENINSULA HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING AND PRESENTING THIS COUNCIL THE ADVERSE EFFECTS OF OVERDEVELOPMENT INDUSTRIALIZATION OF PYRAMID. WE HAVE BEEN CLEAR THAT THE EXISTING BURDENS NEED TO BE RESOLVED. AND FURTHER DISTRIBUTION CENTER DEVELOPMENT IMPAIRMENT NEEDS TO BE HALTED. NO MORE TRUCKS. NO MORE WAREHOUSES. DURING THAT TIME, WE HAVE LAID A FACT BASED CASE FOR THE BLATANT DISREGARD OF PERRIMAN AND ALL OF HARFORD COUNTY IN FAVOR OF DEVELOPERS. AND THEIR CRONIES THAT WISH TO EXPLOIT OUR COMMUNITY. THE COUNCIL HAS HEARD NUMEROUS TESTIMONIES ON THE EXISTING HARM CALLS BY THE UNCHECKED DUMPING OF DISTRIBUTION BUILDINGS AND THEIR INHERENT ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY, TRAFFIC, ECONOMIC AND QUALITY OF LIFE BURDEN ON THIS DISTANT FRANCHISE COMMUNITY. NOT ONLY HAVE WE IDENTIFIED THE EXISTING PROBLEMS, BUT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY TO IMPLEMENT SOLUTIONS FOR THESE AND FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED. THIS BILL IS A PART OF THE SOLUTION SET NEEDED TO RIGHT PAST AND PREVENT FUTURE WRONGS. OPPONENTS WILL ARGUE THAT THIS BILL IS ANTI BUSINESS AND WE'LL DRIVE AWAY THOSE WHO WANT TO INVEST IN THE COUNTY. WHILE THIS SOUND BITE IS MEANT TO STIR UNEASINESS IN THE BUILDING OF THIS

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GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS. GOOD EVENING, STEPHANIE FLASH. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF HARTFORD, 19 02 NORWOOD COURT FALLSTON. FRIENDS OF HARFORD SUPPORTS THE LEGISLATION AS THE FIRST STEP TO ADDRESSING THE LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT THAT THREATENS HARFORD COUNTY'S QUALITY OF LIFE . THE UPDATED DEFINITIONS SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR FACILITY SIZES AND THE DESIGN REQUIREMENTS ARE NECESSARY FOR BALANCING ECONOMIC GROWTH WITH THE COSTS OF SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AND SAFETY. OTHER STATES AS MENTIONED EARLIER, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT NEW JERSEY AND P A UM, ARE ALSO CREATING POLICIES FOR LARGE SCALE WAREHOUSES DUE TO THE RAPID CHANGE OF GROWTH AS IT IMPACTS OF LARGE FREIGHT TERMINALS AND WAREHOUSES ARE FOUND TO HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE WAY WE LIVE IN THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES AND ALONG THE I 95 CORRIDOR AS WELL AS HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY. FRIENDS OF HARFORD VIEWS THIS BILL AS AN ESSENTIAL STEP IN NAVIGATING THE FUTURE OF E COMMERCE IN OUR COUNTY IN AN EQUITABLE WAY. WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS BILL AS WRITTEN AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I'M CHUCK MCMAHON, 445 CHARLES STREET AVENUE, TOWSON. UM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF EMC BE REAL ESTATE. WE ARE OWNERS OF TWO WAREHOUSE PROPERTIES IN HARFORD COUNTY, TOTALING OVER 1.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET WITH A VALUE OF OVER $100 MILLION. UM I AM THE FACE OF ONE OF THE IMPACTED STAKEHOLDERS THAT MR PENMAN REFERRED TO EARLIER AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS WILL IMPACT US AND OUR INVESTMENT IN HARFORD COUNTY. UM, THIS BILL CONTAINS RESTRICTIONS THAT IF ENACTED, WOULD CAUSE ZONING AND USE NON CONFORMANCE FOR OUR PROPERTIES AND AS A RESULT, WHEN LEASES EXPIRE, WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO ATTRACT NEW TENANTS. OF SIMILAR SIZE AND BUSINESS TYPE. WITHOUT THE RENTAL INCOME OF THOSE NEW TENANTS. WE'D BE UNABLE TO PAY OUR MORTGAGE AND WE COULD LOSE OUR BUILDINGS TO FORECLOSURE FORECLOSURE. BANKS WOULD NO LONGER BE WILLING TO LEND ON THESE PROPERTIES. AND THE ASSETS WOULD BECOME ALMOST WORTHLESS. INVESTORS. WOULD LOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THE RESULTING ASSESSMENTS AND PROPERTY TAX REVENUES TO HARFORD COUNTY.

WOULD DROP PRECIPITOUSLY. WE STRONGLY OPPOSED BILL 23 TO 6 AND THE UNDERLYING POLICY OBJECTIVE BEING ADVANCED BY THE COUNTY. OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES, HARFORD COUNTY HAS EMERGED AS A DESIRABLE LOCATION FOR INSTITUTIONAL INVESTMENTS IN IN IN INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE.

MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE SPACE HAVE BEEN BUILT. AND TRADED IN THE CAPITAL MARKETS AND THOUSANDS OF JOBS ARE NOW HOUSED IN THAT REAL ESTATE. THIS BILL WOULD REVERSE

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BESIDES THE LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED, I SUPPORT THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE PROTECTED PARLIAMENT PENINSULA COALITION HAS OFFERED. THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOCUSED ON FIVE AREAS PROPERLY DEFINING TERMS LIKE PROJECT AND DEVELOPABLE. REFINING METRICS FOR INTENSITY OF USE AND IMPACT. CLARIFYING PERMITTED USE CHARTS INCORPORATING SUFFICIENT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS AND INCLUDING SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECULATIVE PROJECTS. I'D LIKE TO FOCUS TONIGHT. ON. ON THE SPECULATIVE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIAL SPECULATIVE PROJECTS. I LIKE TO PREFACE MY REMARKS BY SAYING THAT I'M OPPOSED TO ANY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE MITCHELL FARM. ANY COMMENTS I MAKE RELATED TO THE THOUGHTFUL INTEGRATION OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. HARFORD COUNTY IS NOT DIRECTED AT THAT PROPERTY SINCE THIS LOCATION NEXT TO THE BUSH RIVER AND IN THE MIDST OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD MAKES NO SENSE FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. RECOMMENDATION FROM THREE P FOR SPECULATIVE PROJECTS THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT IS THAT REQUIREMENTS BE CODIFIED THAT THE DEVELOPER AND SUBSEQUENT OWNERS GIVE ADEQUATE NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY OF FUTURE USES OF THE PROPERTY. AND THAT HARFORD COUNTY REVIEW AND APPROVE THE NEW USE IF THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES, AND IT'S CRUCIAL THAT SUBSTANTIAL BE PROPERLY AND CLEARLY DEFINED THEN THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THE COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

WE'VE ALREADY SEEN A PYRAMID. WHY THIS IS NECESSARY EXACTLY ONE YEAR AGO. SEPTEMBER 27TH 2022 JUST BIG REAL ESTATE GROUP SUBMITTED UPDATED PRELIMINARY INSIDE PLANTS FOR THE MITCHELL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT THAT INCREASED THE HEIGHT OF ALL FREIGHT TERMINALS FROM 40 FT TO 65 FT. THEY DID THIS WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORS OF THE MITCHELL FARM. THE RESIDENTS IN PERRIMAN OR THE POLITICAL LEADERS IN HARFORD COUNTY. VERY GOOD KNEW THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS OPPOSED TO THE FREIGHT TERMINALS AFTER ORIGINALLY PROPOSED HEIGHT. BUT STILL THESE RICH SPECULATORS WHO DON'T LIVE IN HARFORD COUNTY AND WHOSE BUSINESS IS NOT LOCATED IN OUR COUNTY HAVE ADDED 130 MILLION CUBIC FEET TO THEIR IRRESPONSIBLE PLANS. EARLIER TONIGHT. CRAIG'S LAWYER FROM STEVENSVILLE, NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS CALLED THE ADMINISTRATION'S ACTIONS RELATED TO THIS BILL, BAIT AND SWITCH. ADDING 130 MILLION CUBIC FEET TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT TELLING THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S BEATING SWITCH. WE NEED TO PROTECT HARVARD CITIZENS FROM UNSCRUPULOUS DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE NO REGARD NO RESPECT AND THE SEEMING HOSTILITY TOWARDS RESIDENTS. DEVELOPERS WOULD TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN, LEAVING BEHIND A HALF MILE LONG BUILDING. 65 FT HIGH, SURROUNDED BY OTHER MONSTROUS FREIGHT TERMINALS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CURRENT ZONING CODE ALLOWED THIS DEVELOPER TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THEIR BUILDINGS BY 63. WITHOUT REQUESTING INPUT FROM IMPACTED NEIGHBORS. WITHOUT EVEN NOTIFYING NEIGHBORS, THE COMMUNITY AND POLITICAL LEADERS.

ZONING CODE LIKE YOUR COMMENTS TO CLOSE MR SHANNON. CODE LIKE THAT IS BROKEN TO BE FIXED.

THANK THANK YOU. JANINE LOOK OR FOLLOWED BY HOLLY COMAS LEE MADDOX AND MATT LAUER WAY.

GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING LOOK OR 18, 20 PARK BEACH DRIVE, PERRIMAN. UM THANK YOU. UM I KNOW A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN GOING ON. PREPARED MARKS. BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT I AM SHIFTING AROUND HERE TONIGHT. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I AM FAVOR OF BILL 23 CHEFS. THAT'S DEAR 0 26. CONSIDERING THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED. WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF LOOPHOLES AND THEY JUST NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. THE NEED TO BE TIED UP. WE NEED A VERY CLEAR UM UM ZONING POLICY THAT ALL THE PLAYERS CAN PLAY BY. THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, UM.

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SURELY THINGS DON'T GET BUILT WITHOUT ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES OR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WELL, LET ME TELL YOU FOR ALL THESE YEARS, AND THE TIME WE'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN UP HERE AT LEAST. FOUR TIMES. TALKING ABOUT NOT IMPLEMENTED. HAVE I SAID THAT BEFORE? BUSH RECENTLY AS JUNE 12TH. THERE ARE OVER A DOZEN CONCERNS WE'VE HAD ABOUT INADEQUATE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THINGS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO BUILD. AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS NOT COME IN.

IT'S BEEN PROMISED, AND IT HAS NOT OCCURRED. WE NEED ROADS FIXED. WE NEED SIDEWALKS. WE NEED HEIGHT MONITORING SYSTEMS. AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES DESERVE THIS. THE OTHER PART. I WANT TO TALK TO IS THAT IF WE THINK THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE THE COMMUNITIES ARE GONNA BE DEVASTATED BY A LACK. IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. BECAUSE PERRIMAN HAS BEEN SO BLESSED BY THE ATTENTION OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ILLEGAL FREIGHT WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION TERMINALS. WE CAN BE PROUD TO SAY. THAT IN PERRIMAN. THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS 64% LESS. THAN HARTFORD COUNTY. WE ALSO HAVE 23% MORE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO LIVE IN PERRIMAN. AND THIS IS, ACCORDING TO AN AEGIS ARTICLE ON MARCH 11TH. PLEASE BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO A CLOSE. SO THE PROSPERITY HAS NOT OCCURRED. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT VINCENTE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS HOLLY MCCOMAS, 18 26 PARK BEACH DRIVE, PERRIMAN. RESIDENTS OF PERRYMAN AND ANYWHERE ELSE FACING SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT. ARE FACING A TWO PRONGED THREAT. THE DANGERS OF SHARING THE ROAD WITH HEAVY TRUCKS AND THE PERVASIVE HEALTH RISKS POSED BY DIESEL EMISSIONS. ANY COUNCIL DECISION TO CONSIDER NEW INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA PREVIOUSLY SURROUNDED BY WELL ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS CONTRADICTS WELL ESTABLISHED RESEARCH ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. FIRSTLY LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ROADWAY. DANGERS IN 2020 LARGE TRUCKS CONTRIBUTED TO 11% OF ALL FATAL ACCIDENTS IN THE US DESPITE MAKING UP ONLY 4% OF REGISTERED VEHICLES. TRUCKS HAVE SUBSTANTIAL BLIND SPOTS, INCREASING THE LIKELIHOOD OF ACCIDENTS DURING LANE CHANGES. UNDERWRITE ACCIDENTS WERE CARS ACTUALLY SLIDE UNDER THE TRUCKS ARE OFTEN FATAL. TRUCKS ARE ALSO MORE PRONE TO ROLLOVERS AND TAKE LONGER TO STOP CREATING IT MORE DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS FOR CAR DRIVERS. NOW LET'S SWITCH GEARS TO DIESEL EMISSIONS. THESE EMISSIONS CARRY TOXIC MIXES OF POLLUTANTS AND PARTICULARLY MATTER SOFTWARE DIOXIDE AND NITROGEN OXIDES, THE MOST VULNERABLE OR CHILDREN PLAYING OUTDOORS AND OUR ELDERLY LIVING IN THEIR HOMES. THESE POLLUTANTS LEAD TO AN INCREASED RISK OF RESPIRATORY ISSUES, HEART DISEASE AND BIRTH DEFECTS. REMEMBER THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY FOUND THAT PEOPLE LIVING WITHIN A THREE MILE INDUSTRIAL FACILITY WITHIN THREE MILES R 77% MORE LIKELY TO DIE FROM RESPIRATORY CANCER. THE PRACTICE OF PLACING INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES NEAR RESIDENTIAL ZONE IS NOT JUST UNWISE. IT'S UNJUST. IT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS

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GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LEE MADDOX. 1700 CHURCH POINT COURT. PYRAMID AND TODAY I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE INTENT AND ADDRESS TWO CRITICAL ISSUES CONCERNING BILL 23 0 TO 6, FIRSTLY, ON THE MATTER OF LEGISLATIVE CLARITY, THE BILL REFERS TO THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE HARFORD COUNTY MASTER PLAN. HOWEVER RECENT EXCHANGES WITH SHAYNE GRAHAM AND JEFFERSON BLOOMQUIST CLARIFY THAT NO STANDALONE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT EXISTS.

IT'S NOW A CHAPTER IN HARTFORD NEXT PERHAPS THAT SECTION OF THE BILL WAS MEANT TO REFERENCE HARFORD COUNTY'S ANNUAL M DOT PRIORITY LEVEL LETTER. NOT SURE. INCORPORATING THIS PUBLIC OFFICIAL DOCUMENT CAN REMOVE. REMOVE AMBIGUITY FROM THE BILL. SO I ASKED THE COUNCIL DON'T VOTE ON LEGISLATION. YOU DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND IF YOU PROCEED WITHOUT CLEAR DEFINITIONS. THAT JUDICIAL SYSTEM MAY NOT LEND CREDENCE TO YOUR INTERPRETATION , INTERPRETATION OF YOUR OWN CODE AND FUTURE CASES. NOW LET'S FOCUS ON PERRIMAN'S RESIDENTIAL LANDSCAPE. PERRIMAN ISN'T SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND WAITING FOR INDUSTRIALIZATION. IT'S HOME TO 17 DISTINCT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THIS ISN'T HISTORICAL DATA HOMES HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AS RECENTLY AS 2023.

AND WE'RE NOT A COMMUNITY STILL FINDING ITS FOOTING. WELL ANCHORED HERE WITH SOME HOMES BUILT IN 17 66 9 YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST SHOTS WERE FIRED AT THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. FROM MOBILE HOME PARKS AND SENIOR APARTMENT BUILDINGS TO HUD, HOUSING AND RIVER COMMUNITIES.

PERRIMAN IS A MOSAIC OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF HOMES AND FAMILIES. OUR HUD HOUSING, LIKE OTHER FORMS OF HOUSING HERE EXISTS UNDER CONDITIONS THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF ITS RESIDENTS. COLA COLA LOCATING INDUSTRY IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE VIBRANT, DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOODS DOESN'T JUST POSE IMMEDIATE HEALTH RISKS . IT ALSO DISPROPORTIONATELY BURDENS, LOW INCOME AND MINORITY COMMUNITIES AND DEVALUES PROPERTY. RESIDENTS OF PERRIMAN ARE NOT ABSTRACT STATISTICS THEIR FAMILIES WITH KIDS PLAYING IN YARDS. ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS WHO DESERVE PEACEFUL TWILIGHT YEARS AND YOUNG ADULTS LOOKING FOR SAFE AND HEALTHY START TO LIFE. THE COUNTY HAS A DUTY TO PROTECT ALL OF ITS CITIZENS, NOT JUST THOSE WITH INDUSTRIAL INTERESTS. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT WERE AT WERE DEMANDING FAIR TREATMENT. AND I WANT TO CLARIFY WHEN WE CALL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE REFORMS. WE ARE NOT LABELING PRESIDENT VINCENT TO AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AS PREJUDICE. THESE DETRIMENTAL POLICIES WERE PUT INTO PLACE LONG BEFORE YOU ASSUMED YOUR OFFICE. THERE ON PAR WITH RED LINING AND RACIAL PROFILING. AND OTHER ESTABLISHED FORMS OF SYSTEMIC INEQUITY. BUT LET'S NO MISTAKE. LET'S NOT MAKE ANY MISTAKE. IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CHANGE YOUR COURSE YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING TO A SYSTEM THAT THIS PROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. DO YOU THINK? UM MATT LARAWAY 633 CANTOR WAY IN BALTIMORE. UM I'M A PARTNER, CHESAPEAKE REAL ESTATE GROUP. AND WE ARE THE CONTRACT PURCHASER OF THE MITCHELL PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE PYRAMID FINANCIALLY. FOR OVER TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS RECEIVING ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY. ALL OF OUR INITIAL MEETINGS WITH HARTFORD COUNTY OFFICIALS WERE POSITIVE AND FOR WELL OVER A YEAR, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY PROVIDED TIMELY RESPONSE TO PLANT SUBMISSIONS, AND IN FACT,

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THAT WAS QUOTE PALATABLE. AND CERTAINLY I HAD THE EXPECTATION THAT WE WERE CLOSE TO AN AGREEMENT. WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NOTIFICATION OR HEADS UP FROM THE COUNTY ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. WE WERE FORWARD A COPY OF BILL 23 0 TO 6, WHICH IS IN DIRECT CONFLICT. WITH ALL OF OUR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING UP TO THAT POINT. THIS BILL IS NOT A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE. IT'S AN OBVIOUS AND TARGETED ATTEMPT AT A SPOT REZONING OUT OF CYCLE.

WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PERMITTED USES AND ALL OF THE DESIGNS REFERENCE TO THIS BILL. CONTRARY TO THE BILL, STATING IT HASN'T BEEN REVISITED SINCE 1982. THE ZONING CODE WAS REWRITTEN IN 2008, AND THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE REZONE WAS IN 2017. THE BILL WAS WRITTEN WITHOUT ANY COMMUNICATION OR INPUT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OR OCCUPY OUR COMMUNITIES. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE WAS NO INPUT FROM ANYONE THAT HAS ANY LOGISTICS EXPERIENCE AS THE DESIGN CRITERIA PROPOSED IN THIS BILL WILL RENDER EXISTING AND NEW BUILDINGS UNUSABLE BY MOST OCCUPIERS AND EMPLOYERS IN THE REGION. THIS IS NOT ONLY AN ASSAULT ON PROPERTY RIGHTS. IT'S ALSO AN ASSAULT ON HARFORD COUNTY'S LABOR FORCE, A LOT OF WHICH LIES IN THE INDUSTRIAL ARENA IF ANY EMPLOYER HAS A WAREHOUSE COMPONENT TO THEIR BUSINESS AND NEEDS TO GROW OR CHANGE THE WAY THEY OPERATE, THE BILL WILL RENDER ALL OF THEIR AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE SITES IN HARFORD COUNTY NOT AVAILABLE FOR THEIR USE, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO GO ELSEWHERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. FRANK HER TRITCH, FOLLOWED BY ISAAC AND BROUSSEAU.

RICH NOR LEANING AND SARAH PRICE.

CALL YOUR FIRST SPEAKER AGAIN. IT'S HERE. FRANK, HER TREATS. CALL YOUR NEXT SPEAKER. ISAAC AND BROUSSEAU. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE ISAAC AND BRUCE 0635, 25TH STREET, SOUTH ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA. I'LL LET YOU HAVE INCENTIVE AND MEMBERS OF THE HARFORD COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT I HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET. MY NAME IS ISAAC AND BROUSSEAU AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE MARYLAND BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION.

THIS BILL HAS TREMENDOUS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY IN HARFORD COUNTY, N B. I AND MEMBERS HAVE REVIEWED THIS LEGISLATION AND IDENTIFIED NUMEROUS POTENTIAL CODE CONFLICTS THAT WILL CREATE CONFUSION AND POTENTIALLY MAKE IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE 10 CHANGES IMPRACTICAL OR IMPOSSIBLE. FURTHER THIS LEGISLATION TREATS ALL WAREHOUSE PROJECTS AS THOUGH THERE ARE ONES THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL DEVELOPMENTS. AND IT BUZZES UNREASONABLE REQUIREMENTS ON DEVELOPERS REQUIRE THEM REQUIRING THEM TO PROVIDE DESIGN CRITERIA WHEN THAT INFORMATION IS NOT NECESSARILY KNOWN AT THE OUTSIDE OF A PROJECT THESE REQUIREMENTS TAKEN TOGETHER, SUCH AS NEW DISTANCING DWELLING BUFFER YARDS, ETCETERA ARE BORDERLINE PROPERTY TAKEN BY THE GOVERNMENT. THERE IS NO GRANDFATHER IN LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, WHICH MEANS THAT IT EXISTS EXISTING PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LEGAL AND LAWFULLY APPROVED, MAYBE IN A SITUATION WHERE INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WILL BE OUT SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT EVEN IF THEY HAVE COMPLIED WITH EXISTING COUNTY REGULATIONS. WELL I AM GRATIFIED TO HEAR THAT THIS AT LEAST WILL BE CORRECTED. THE FACT THIS OBVIOUS FLAW WAS NOT CONSIDERED BEFORE THE LEGISLATION, WHICH INTRODUCED SHOWS THE POOR FORESIGHT EXHIBITED IN THIS BILL'S CONSTRUCTION. IN SHORT, THIS LEGISLATION WILL HAVE LONG TERM HARMFUL EFFECTS ON THE COUNTY BY ELIMINATING SIGNIFICANT INVESTED INVESTMENTS, ALIENATING EMPLOYERS, REDUCING ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND COUNTY REVENUE. IN ORDER FOR DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS TO OPERATE. THERE MUST BE A CONSISTENCY OF PROCESS CHANGES, SUCH AS THIS SIGNAL THE BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY THAT THEY MUST LOOK AS ELSEWHERE TO

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THESE LARGE FLAT ROOFS. ARE THE BEST PLACES TO PUT SOLAR ELECTRIC GENERATION. THE STATE HAS A MAJOR GOLD INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY GENERATED BY SOLAR AND HARFORD COUNTY COULD DO YOUR PART JUST BY MAKING SURE THAT THE ROOTS OF THESE LARGE BUILDINGS ARE STRONG ENOUGH. TO SUPPORT THE WEIGHT OF SOLAR COLLECTORS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE THEM TO PUT THE SOLAR COLLECTORS THERE. THE ECONOMICS WILL MAKE THE WORLD WILL BE IN THEIR FAVOR. BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE SOLAR READY WOULD BE A MAJOR STEP FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR PRESIDENT.

HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL . MY NAME IS SARAH PRICE AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE MARYLAND RETAILERS ALLIANCE. MY ADDRESS IS 318 MARYMOUNT COURT IN PASADENA. AS I MENTIONED I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A MEMBERSHIP ASSOCIATION THAT REPRESENTS RETAIL BUSINESSES FROM ALL ACROSS THE STATE, UH, FROM OAKLAND TO OCEAN CITY, INCLUDING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MIRROR, THE MAIN STREET MARYLAND PROGRAM , SO I DO WORK DIRECTLY WITH DOWNTOWN BEL AIR. SHOPPING TRENDS AND CONSUMER EXPECTATIONS HAVE SHIFTED DRASTICALLY SINCE THE ONSET OF THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, AND THIS HAS INCLUDED AN ENORMOUS TREND TOWARD HOME DELIVERY. MANY CUSTOMERS BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY PLACE IT ONLINE ORDER, PARTICULARLY FROM A LARGE BUSINESS THAT THAT ORDER SHOULD BE ON THEIR DOORSTEP WITHIN 48 HOURS. IN ORDER TO MEET THESE EXPECTATIONS. BUSINESSES NEED A ROBUST INFRASTRUCTURE OF MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, AND THESE NEED TO BE LOCATED NEAR TRANSPORTATION HUBS AND MAJOR HIGHWAYS. HARFORD COUNTY BENEFITS IN BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO THE I 95 CORRIDOR AND THE PORT OF BALTIMORE. THIS BILL, AS INTRODUCED INCLUDES VERY RESTRICTIVE LANGUAGE REGARDING BUILDING OPERATIONS

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PERRIMAN PENINSULA. FRIENDS OF HARTFORD, ANOTHER ADVOCATES FOR PRESERVING NATURAL HABITAT, GOOD HEALTH AND POSITIVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR HARTFORD CITIZENS. WE WANT LOOPHOLES TO BE ELIMINATED AND NOT BUILT IN INTO THE LEGISLATION. WE DO NOT WANT TO PLAY WHACK A MOLE OR SHELL GAME WITH TERMINOLOGY. WAREHOUSES VERSUS FREIGHT TERMINALS VERSUS TOMORROW'S NEW TERM. THE TERM BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHOULD BE USED IN THE AX. MAXIMUM BUILDING SIZE PER ZOOMING DESIGNATION MUST BE SPECIFIED, REGARDLESS OF THE RESIDENT BUSINESS TYPE. HAVE A NAME WOULD SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN RE ZONED AS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. IT IS OUR LAST CONTIGUOUS, FORESTED WETLAND IN SOUTHERN HARFORD AND IS IN THE OUTER POINT CREEK WATERSHED SEDIMENTATION IS ALREADY OCCURRING IN THE HA HA BRAND STREAM AS A RESULT OF THE ASSAULT ON ABINGDON, WOODS RESIDENTS AND PUMPKIN PATCH COURT USED TO SEE WOODS NOW THERE ISN'T ANEMIC, SINGLE ROW OF TREES WHICH DO NOT BLOCK BLOCK SEDER SOUND OF THE DEVELOPERS. DESTRUCTION OF ABINGDON WOODS RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY LOST SIGNIFICANT VALUE AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THEIR HOMES. THE LOSS OF SOME 100 THEY HAVE SOME 100 ACRES OF TREES HAS INCREASED THE ROAD NOISE POLLUTION HEARD MILES AWAY. THE ABINGDON BUSINESS PARK PLAN SHOWS PARKING SPOTS FOR 1752 CARS, 97 TRUCKS AND 314 TRAILER DROPS. COMMON SENSE REVEALS THAT RESIDENTIAL ROADS CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THIS ONSLAUGHT OF VIA VEHICULAR TRAFFIC AND ITS POLLUTION RUSH HOUR. ALREADY CLOGS ARE SOUTHERN HARFORD ROADS. APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS AGO, I ENDED UP DRIVING IN A CIRCLE ENDING UP WHERE I STARTED IN AN HOUR BECAUSE OF AN ACCIDENT ON ROUTE 95. MAJOR ROADS WERE PACKED WITH CARS IF AN EMERGENCY EVACUATION WAS EVER NEEDED IN SOUTHERN HARFORD, SUCH AS IN THE MAO, WE'VE SUCH AS IN MAUI. DUE TO THE FIRE, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO EXIT THE REGION EVEN IF IT IN ITS CURRENT OVERBUILT STATE PEOPLE WILL DIE. ANOTHER CONCERN IS HUGE BUSINESS PARKING LOTS ARE MOSTLY EMPTY EVEN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, WHATEVER LOT SIZE CALCULATION IS USED BY ENGINEERS NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED, SO IRREPLACEABLE HABITAT REMAINS INSTEAD OF BEING REPLACED BY IMPERVIOUS, MOSTLY EMPTY PARKING LOTS. ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION PLAN.

CRITERIA NEEDS TO BE REVISED, SO THEY ARE SPECIFIC, ENFORCEABLE AND REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL SUBSTANTIVE DETAILS. THEY MUST REQUIRE SCIENCE BASED EXPLANATIONS ON HOW THE DEVELOPERS REMEDIATION WILL ACTUALLY PROVIDE REAL AND MEASURABLE ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION. AND NOT JUST BE A MEANINGLESS CHECK. PLEASE BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO CLOSE. NOT JUST BE A MEANINGLESS CHECK BOX THAT GETS A MARK ON THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, EVENING COUNCIL RUN. SUSHINSKY, 3 19 MARINA AVENUE, PERRYMAN. ALMOST TWO

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YOU ALSO FAILED TO MENTION THAT ROADS WERE PROMISED BY THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION THAT WERE NEVER COMPLETED PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT, AS REQUIRED. WHAT INTEREST DO YOU HAVE WITH THE DEVELOPERS? DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THESE LATER OR I CAN COME BACK IN THERE AND SOME FOR YOU? PERSONALLY I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE FAKE DEVELOPER FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS OF MISLEADING INFORMATION, ILLEGAL SPAM, TEXTING THE MISLEADING ROBOCALLS AND SPEECHES BEING READ BY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE WRITTEN FOR THEM BY THEIR LAWYERS, LOBBYISTS, DEVELOPERS AND ADVISORY FRIENDS. IT'S TIME TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF THE DISTRICT THAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT NOT TO DEVELOPERS, LAWYERS OR PAST ADMINISTRATIONS . THAT, AS THEY SAY, ARE HERE TO MENTOR YOU. IT'S JUST ME HERE.

PATIENTLY WAITING FOR THIS DAY SINCE JOE SNEEZE LAST MINUTE PLEA FOR HELP EMAIL CAME OUT FOUR DAYS AGO. TYPICAL FAKE LAWYER NEWS ABOUT THE WAREHOUSE LEGISLATION RELATION AFFECTING ALL OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. JOE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF ENVIRONMENTAL, RACISM AND DEVELOPMENT OF SACRIFICES OWNS IS DISTURBING. I'M SURPRISED YOUR SLOGAN ISN'T TO HELL WITH THE IMPACT OF LOCAL COMMUNITIES. AND IN NO WAY IS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY GOING TO COLLAPSE UNDER BOB CASSILLY, AS YOUR EMAIL SAID, THAT'S ALL POLITICAL BS. FUNNY THAT YOU HAD NO ISSUES WITH THE PRIOR MINISTRATIONS, AND IT'S TURNING OF A BLIND EYE WHEN IT CAME TO VIOLATIONS ON JOB SITES OR THE LACK OF ZONING CODE IN ENFORCEMENT. WHAT'S GOING TO COLLAPSE ACTUALLY ARE THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND THEIR FRIENDS IN HARFORD COUNTY. I CAN PERSONALLY GUARANTEE IT.

IF SOME OF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, JUST ASK OUR PRIOR DISTRICT OF REPRESENTATIVE OH, AND DON'T WORRY, MR SWEENEY. I'M SURE THAT THE LOCAL TANNING SALONS AND WATERING HOLES WILL BE JUST FINE WITHOUT YOUR DEVELOPER, FRIENDS DESTROYING MORE OF OUR COUNTY. STAND STRONG WITH PERRIMAN STAND STRONG PYRAMID AND WE STAND STRONG WITH PFOSTEN. WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. SUPPORT BILL 23026 AND 03. 23027 THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. MY NAME IS JANET HARDY 14 23 ABINGDON ROAD IN ABINGDON. UM TONIGHT. I'D LIKE TO THANK MR VINCE ANY FOR TELLING US AT A MEETING RECENTLY THAT WE WOULD BE PLEASED WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT THEY WERE GOING TO INTRODUCE. AND I'M HERE TO SAY THAT. YES IT IS A GOOD START, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD LIMIT THE SIZES OF OUR WAREHOUSES. IN THIS. TWO OF THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND I SUPPORT BILL. UH 26 AND I ASKED YOU ALL TO SUPPORT IT ALSO, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

NAME AND ADDRESS. TRIPP BAILEY 5 11 WEST LANCASTER AVENUE. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO SPEAK TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSES OWNING LEGISLATION. I AM HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF JOHNSON DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATES. COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE BEEN DOING BUSINESS IN HARTFORD COUNTY. SINCE 2019 HAVE INVESTED TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PURCHASE CONSTRUCT AND IMPROVE OUR PROPERTIES. BEGIN I WOULD LIKE TO CONVEY MY COMPANY'S BELIEF THAT THE LEGISLATION REPRESENTS AN ILLEGAL TAKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY. AS THERE'S NO PROPOSED COMPENSATION TO THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS. MR PENMAN. YOU CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT THE LEGISLATION BASICALLY CREATES A SITUATION WHERE EVERY EXISTING WHERE HOUSE IN THE COUNTY WOULD BE CONSIDERED A NON CONFORMING USE. AND THEN YOUR Q AND A WITH MR SHANE GRIM TODAY. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AS TO WHAT EFFECT THAT WOULD HAVE ON

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. KATE MACDONALD, FOLLOWED BY TRACY GEISEL, MARY LEE STRETCH AND GINA TILLERY. AND SEE HIM IN THERE. HMM. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. KATE MACDONALD, 2100 PARK BEACH . DR. PERRY BEEN I'M HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR BILL 23-26 WITH THE AMENDMENTS PROPOSED BY THREE P.

WELL, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S TAKEN PYRAMID ALMOST TWO YEARS TO GET HERE. IT'S REASSURING THAT A FEW OF OUR COUNTY LEADERS SEEM TO FINALLY BE LISTENING AND MODERNIZING ITS ZONING CODES IN AN EFFORT TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS AGAINST AGREED ISH, EGREGIOUS AND RIDICULOUS DEVELOPMENT PLANS LIKE THE ONE PROPOSED BY CRAIG ON THE MITCHELL FARM. IT'S TIME TO STOP LITTERING OUR COUNTY, WITH MEGA FREIGHT DISTRIBUTIONS, BRINGING ALL THEIR CHECKS ONTO OUR ROADS , DESTROYING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND POISONING OUR CITIZENS. THESE ARE THE 2023 NUMBERS BY THE CLEANER TASK FORCE FOR OUR AREA. MARILYN IS RANKED EIGHT OUT OF 49 STATES FOR CANCER RISK FROM DIESEL SIT HARFORD COUNTY THIS YEAR THEY PROJECT NINE DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO DIESEL POLLUTION AND 100 AND $5 MILLION AND MONETIZED HEALTH DAMAGES. 525 TONS OF NITROGEN, NITROGEN OXIDE 19 TONS OF PM 2.5, THE MOST DEADLY DIESEL POLLUTION AND 53 TONS OF DOCS WILL BE RELEASED INTO HARFORD COUNTY'S AIR AND ULTIMATELY OUR WATER THIS YEAR ALONE. WHILE THOSE NUMBERS ARE FOR HARPER COUNTY IN GENERAL, WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT PEOPLE IN BELLAIRE, PFOSTEN, FORREST HILL, DARLINGTON AND STREET DON'T HAVE THOUSANDS OF DIESEL TRUCKS PASSING THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITIES EACH DAY EVERY DAY ALL YEAR LONG. ONLY SOUTH HARTFORD COUNTY HAS THAT. YOU CAN SIT THERE ALL DAY AND SAY THIS ISN'T THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE JUST THE PLAYBOOK WE'VE BEEN USING. FOR DECADES. THIS PROPERTY WAS ON LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IN 1997. AND IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE WHAT'S HAPPENING. IMPAIRMENT RIGHT OR LEGAL FOR THAT MATTER. ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IS THE FAIR TREATMENT AND MEANINGFUL INVOLVEMENT OF ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN OR INCOME WITH RESPECT TO DEVELOPMENT. AND IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS, REGULATIONS AND POLICIES. THE E P A SAYS FAIR TREATMENT. MEANS NO GROUP OF PEOPLE SHOULD BE A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES RESULTING FROM INDUSTRIAL, GOVERNMENTAL COMMERCIAL OPERATIONS OR POLICIES. MR PITTMAN POINTED OUT EARLIER. PERRYMAN IS HOME TO APPROXIMATELY 12 MILLION SQUARE

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SAVE SAFE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO OUR HOMES AND SAFE DRINKING WATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. 2104 PARK BEACH DRIVE ABERDEEN. I'D LIKE TO THANK MR PENMAN FOR LISTING ALMOST ALL OF THE WAREHOUSES ON THE PERRIMAN PENINSULA. I'M IN SUPPORT OF MODERNIZING THE ZONING CODE AND STOPPING THE DEVELOPMENT OF MEGA FREIGHT DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN ALL OF HARTFORD COUNTY. FROM THE LAND OF PLEASANT LIVING. IF YOU'RE A LONG TIME, MARYLAND OR HARTFORD COUNTY RESIDENT LIKE I AM I MOVED HERE IN 1964. YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS SLOGAN FROM THE LAND OF PLEASANT LIVING WAS THE NATIONAL BOHEMIAN SLOGAN FOR LIFE ON THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. THE CHESAPEAKE BAY IS THE LARGEST ESTUARY IN THE UNITED STATES, THE LARGEST IN NORTH AMERICA.

ESTUARIES ARE HOME TO UNIQUE PLANTS AND ANIMAL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ADAPTED TO A BRACKISH WATER LIFE. THE BUSH RIVER IS A TIDAL ESTUARY, WHICH RUNS INTO THE LARGEST ESTUARY IN NORTH AMERICA, THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. THE OVERDEVELOPMENT OF THE PYRAMID PENINSULA WILL MEAN MORE RUN OFF INTO THE BUSH RIVER, WHICH WILL MEAN MORE RUNOFF INTO THE LARGEST ESTUARY IN NORTH AMERICA. THE OVERDEVELOPMENT OF OTHER AREAS OF HARTFORD COUNTY WILL MEAN MORE RUNOFF INTO OTHER TITLE ESTUARIES. WITH THE RUN OFF THE COUNTY HAS ALLOWED INTO THE GUNPOWDER RIVER, THE TITLE ESTUARY OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY ORIGINALLY RESERVED DEVELOPMENT . IT IS LIKELY NO ONE WILL CARE ABOUT THE RUN OFF INTO THE BUSH RIVER. THE GRASS IS WE'RE SEEING IN THE BUSH RIVER WILL BE AFFECTED, JUST LIKE THE GRASSES WHICH ARE BEING DEPLETED IN THE GUNPOWDER RIVER. ACCORDING TO THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH 2022 HARFORD COUNTY CITED 252 SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL VIOLATIONS. THEY STOPPED WORK 19 TIMES. BUT LEVY NO PENALTIES. NOT MUCH OF AN INCENTIVE FOR IMPROVEMENT FROM THE DEVELOPERS. IN 2023, THE COUNTY ISSUED PENALTIES TO THE DEVELOPER ORIGINALLY RESERVED TOO LITTLE TOO LATE. THE DAMAGE TO THE GUNPOWDER HAS ALREADY DONE. THE RIVER HAS TURNED ORANGE WITH THE RAIN. I FEAR THIS WILL BE THE SAME WITH PERRYMAN PENINSULA AND THE BUSH RIVER, THE TITLE ESTUARY OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. WE WILL NO LONGER BE FROM THE LAND OF PLEASANT LIVING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM NAME AND ADDRESS THE STRETCH 38 14 FEDERAL LANE HAVING TO MARYLAND. TO URGE THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS IMPLEMENT NEW ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WILL PROHIBIT WHERE HOUSES OVER 250,000 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTIES WITH COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING. THE COUNTY COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO PROTECT HAVING AND WOODS REPAIRMAN PENINSULA AND THE REST OF HARFORD COUNTY. AT LEAST FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NEEDED TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF MODIFICATIONS TO THE ZONING REGULATIONS SO THAT THERE ARE CLEARLY DEFINED REGULATIONS ON WHERE HAS DEVELOPMENTS. COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS LEAD TO SUPPORT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF RESTRICTIONS ON MEGA WAREHOUSES AND FREIGHT TERMINALS WITHOUT GRANDFATHERING HIM PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS NEITHER MEGA MILLION WAREHOUSES NORTH FREIGHT TERMINALS SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN CI OR ALLY ZONES, WHICH ARE INTENDED FOR LIGHT OR MODERATE USE. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIGHT OR MODERATE ABOUT MULTIMILLION SQUARE FEET WAREHOUSES. FREIGHT TERMINALS AND WAREHOUSES OF UNRESTRICTED SIZE SHOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED IN DISTRICTS INTENDED FOR HEAVIER IMPACT. COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD NOT BORDER RESIDENTIAL AREAS. AH ZONING FOR AVENUE AND WOODS WAS CHANGED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IN 1982. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, MR PENMAN, UH, LARGE. WAREHOUSE WAS 25,000 SQUARE FEET. NOW THEY WANT MULTI

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WE MOVING FREIGHT TERMINALS FROM C. I ZONED RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

LIMITING THE SIZE OF FACILITIES ALLOWED AND SEE OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO LESS THAN 150 SQUARE FEET. 150,000 SQUARE FEET AND BY ADDING AS MUCH DISTANCE AS POSSIBLE FROM THESE STRUCTURES.

TWO RESIDENCES BY INCREASING BERMS AND WHATEVER MANNER THAT WE NEED. AND LASTLY, ONCE WE HAVE A BILL THAT CLARIFIES AND DEFINES THE BUILDINGS, THEIR SIDES OPERATIONS AND ONE THAT IS FREE OF ALL THE POSSIBLE LOOPHOLES. WE WE I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE ENSURE THAT IS ENACTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, PERHAPS IN 30 RATHER THAN 60 DAYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. THANK YOU, MA'AM. MARC KEALEY, FOLLOWED BY TAMMY WAINWRIGHT, ROBERT LYNCH AND PAMELA DEEMER. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. EVENING MY NAME IS MARK KEELEY.

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GUIDELINES THAT WERE RECENTLY DONE. OR UPDATED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. THE GUIDELINES REQUIRE TRAFFIC SCOPING MEETING THAT IS HELD WITH THE DEVELOPERS, THE DEVELOPERS, TRAFFIC ENGINEER, STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND THE COUNTY. THE GUIDELINES OUTLINE. HOW THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS PUT TOGETHER IN TERMS OF WHAT INTERSECTIONS ARE CONDUCTED WHEN THE INTERSECTIONS ARE COUNTED.

THE COUNTY HAS CONTROL OVER GROWTH RATES, DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE BACKGROUND DEVELOPMENTS THAT GO INTO THE TRAFFIC STUDY. THEY CONTROL THE GROWTH RATES. THE ANALYSIS METHODOLOGY. AND ULTIMATELY, THE MITIGATION IS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. THE STUDIES GO THROUGH INTENSIVE REVIEW BY THE COUNTY AND THE STATE HIGHWAY, NO LESS THAN FIVE AGENCIES WITHIN STATE HIGHWAY REVIEW THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDIES. UM I BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF REVIEWING TRAFFIC STUDIES JUST AS THEY DO WITH, UM, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS. UM. THEY ARE EXPERTS IN THE FIELD OF PLANNING ENGINEERING. THEY ARE YOUR STAFF. UM. AND IN MY ESTIMATION , UH, THIS TYPE OF, UM LEGISLATION THAT REQUIRES AN OUTSIDE ENGINEER TO CONDUCT THE STUDY WAS DONE IN ANNAPOLIS, AND HIS HAS FAILED. UM FOR THE VERY REASONS THAT I THAT I MENTIONED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS , PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, TAMMY WAINWRIGHT. 11TH SUSHI, A ROAD ABERDEEN. I SUPPORT BILL 23-0 TO 6. WITH THE AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED BY THREE P THIS BILL IS A FIRST STEP IN ACHIEVING CLIMATE, EQUITY IMPAIRMENT AND THE COUNTY . FOR CENTURIES. MINORITIES IMMIGRANTS AND THE POOR. HAVE BEEN FORCED TO SIT BACK AND WATCH MOSTLY MALE. MOSTLY WHITE AND MOSTLY DESCENDANTS OF OWNER OPERATORS OF LABOR CAMPS. RUN BY THE ENSLAVED. MAKE DECISIONS OR WHERE THEY COULD LIVE, WORK, EDUCATE, WORSHIP AND PLAY. AND FOR CENTURIES. THEY HAVE HAD THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE DESTROYED. DUE TO RACIST POLICIES CAMOUFLAGED AS AN ENTERPRISE ZONES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM IS DESCRIBED AS INSTITUTIONAL RULES , REGULATIONS, POLICIES OR GOVERNMENT AND OR CORPORATE DECISIONS THAT DELIBERATELY TARGET IMMIGRANT, POOR AND MINORITY COMMUNITIES FOR LOCALLY UNDESIRABLE LAND USES. COMMUNITIES WHICH ARE ALREADY OVERBURDENED. UNDERSERVED. THIS RESULTS IN DISPROPORTIONATE EXPOSURE TO UNSAFE DRINKING WATER, ELEVATED AIR POLLUTION AND HEALTH ISSUES OF WHICH I HAVE ASTHMA ■AND COPD. ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE THAT HAS

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ONE LAWSUIT IS CURRENTLY PENDING IN THE CIRCUIT COURT AGAINST HARFORD COUNTY, AND ANOTHER WILL FOLLOW THIS BILL IS SIGNED INTO LAW. SPEAKING TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. ANTI BUSINESS ATTACK WHEN HARFORD COUNTY'S OWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, WHICH WAS SET IN MOTION 30 YEARS AGO. I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE SPEAKING BEFORE THIS SUPPOSEDLY PRO BUSINESS REPUBLICAN COUNTY COUNCIL. WHICH IS ASKED BY A REPUBLICAN COUNTY EXECUTIVE.

BUSINESS IMPORTANT, A BILL THAT DIRECTLY TRAMPLES CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTED PROPERTY RIGHTS MORATORIUM WAS PASSED LOTS OF DEBATE AND THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT COUNT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. I THINK MR PERELMAN'S EXAMINATION MADE THAT VERY, VERY CLEAR. THERE WAS A STUDY WAREHOUSE IMPACTS, FOLKS, PLEASE. WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH THIS STUDY IMPACTS ON THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. NOTHING WAS DONE. NO STUDIES CONDUCTED NO OUTREACH TO THE STEAK. HOLDERS WHO ARE IMPACTED. A PLEASURE. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE WORKING AS A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER AND LAWYER IN HARFORD COUNTY FOR OVER 45 YEARS. SEVERAL OF THOSE YEARS I SERVED AS PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR HARFORD COUNTY. BACK IN THERE LIKE TEEN EIGHTIES IT PAINS ME TO SAY THAT THIS BILL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THAT THE ABSOLUTE WORST ZONING BILL I'VE EVER WITNESSED. IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF SLOPPY DRAFTSMANSHIP AND ILLUSTRATES THE LACK OF FORESIGHT, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER WHAT COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD VOTE FOR MAKES ALMOST EVERY WAREHOUSE IN HARFORD COUNTY NONCONFORMING USE NOW UNDERSTAND THE STATEMENT BY MR GUTHRIE. IT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE TO BE ADDRESSED AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. HOWEVER WHAT ELSE IS IN THIS BILL? I THINK SOME OTHER PEOPLE INDICATED. WHAT KIND OF MANUFACTURING HOW EXTENSIVE IS MANUFACTURING CAN OCCUR IN PERRY ME IF THIS BILL PASSES AND IT COULD BE OVER A MILLION 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET, IS THAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTED? I'M NOT SURE. THIS IS A TARGETED BILL. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU SAY IT HOW YOU MIX IT. THIS IS THE TARGETED BILL AGAINST THE MITRAL PROPERTY. GOES WAY BEYOND THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND EFFECTIVELY BECOMES A REZONING OR DOWNS, OWNING PROPERTY AND RADICALLY TRANSFORMS ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITY LAW. IT'S GONNA CRIPPLE PROJECTS OF PHILIPPI SECURITY FINANCING AND GET BUILT. THIS BILL VIOLATES THE HARFORD COUNTY MASTER PLAN. WELL ESTABLISHED LEGAL CONCEPTS OF UNIFORMITY.

CONSTITUTE AND ILLEGAL ZONING ACTION AND UNDERMINES THE HARFORD COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENTS, ZONING INTEGRITY AND STATEWIDE REPUTATION. FOR THESE REASONS, THIS BILL SHOULD BE DEFEATED. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT, VINCENT. THANK YOU, SIR. HELLO NAME AND ADDRESS.

PLEASE, MA'AM. HELLO I'M PAM PAMELA DIEMER 9 28. BERGEN COURT. BEL AIR MARYLAND, UM, PRESIDENT OF HARFORD COUNTY CLIMATE ACTION. BILL 23 026. LIMITS WAREHOUSES TO 250,000 SQUARE FEET AND DOES NOT PERMIT FREIGHT TERMINALS AND COMMERCIAL , INDUSTRIAL AND LIGHT

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THANK YOU, MA'AM. JACKIE DELISLE , FOLLOWED BY DEREK CHRISTIAN, FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH CHAMBERLAIN. AND DELANEY MUSEUM. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, JACKIE DELISLE FOR 805. PHILADELPHIA ROAD, BELCAMP, MARYLAND TO 10 17. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO OPPOSE BILL 23 026 AS INTRODUCED. WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT FROM MANY INDIVIDUALS WHO OBJECTED TO SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENTS IN SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE COUNTY. NEW DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE TO REPRESENT TO YOU THE CAUSE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ALREADY OWN LOTS IN HARFORD COUNTY. THERE ARE ALREADY ZONED C, I L I G. I PEOPLE THAT OWN LOTS AND EXISTING INDUSTRIAL PARKS SUCH AS CLAYTON STATION, RIVERSIDE BUSINESS PARK EMERTON BUSINESS PARK. PEOPLE WHO MADE INVESTMENTS IN THESE LOTS YEARS AGO. FOR EXAMPLE, CLAYTON STATION WAS CREATED 24 YEARS AGO . IT IS AGAIN EXISTING BUSINESS PARK. RIVERSIDE WEST BUSINESS PARK WAS CREATED 19 YEARS AGO, AN EXISTING BUSINESS PARK. RIVERSIDE EAST. BUSINESS PARK WAS CREATED 17 YEARS AGO, AN EXISTING BUSINESS PARK. PRESENTLY MANY OF THE LOTS IN THESE PARKS DO NOT MEET THE 15 ACRE REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS SET FORTH IN THIS BILL. PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE ALREADY MADE AN INVESTMENT THAT ARE CARRYING MORTGAGES. SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE EXISTING SITE PLANS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR INVESTMENTS. AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS EVENING, MR BOIS INDICATED THAT ONE OF THE FOCUSES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS ON NEW DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT IT MAY ADDRESS NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT DOES SOMETHING MUCH HARSHER, MUCH HARSHER TO PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ALREADY OWNED AND HAVE MADE AN INVESTMENT IN HARFORD COUNTY PROPERTY OWNERS WHO PAY TAXES. WHO WHO RESPONSIBLY COMPLY WITH THEIR CURRENT ZONING APPROVALS OR THOSE THAT THEY HAVE ACQUIRED. MR GRIM ALLUDED TO LETTERS OF ZONING CERTIFICATES.

ZONING CERTIFICATE IS MANDATORY WHEN ANYONE EITHER BUYS A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY.

TRIES TO REFINANCE AN EXISTING PIECE OF PROPERTY MORTGAGES OF PROPERTY ATTEMPTS TO LEASE IT OF THAT ZONING LETTER COMES BACK AND SAYS EITHER A PROPOSED USE IS ILLEGAL UNDER THE ZONING CODE, OR IT IS NONCONFORMING UNDER THE ZONING CODE. BUT LEASING AGENT HAS LOST ITS LEASE THE PROPERTY WINTER ATTEMPTING TO LEASE TO A TO A USER HAS LOST THEIR PROPOSED TENANT PROPERTY AND ARE TRYING TO REFINANCE THEIR EXISTING MORTGAGE. THAT WAS PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE. WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY. WE MADE THE INVESTMENT IN HARFORD COUNTY LOSES THE ABILITY TO REFINANCE THAT MORTGAGE. NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE GUIDED BY REGULATIONS. I'M NOT SPEAKING TO THOSE THIS EVENING. I'M REMINDING YOU THAT THIS BILL HAS A MASSIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON PROPERTY OWNERS WHO CURRENTLY OWN LOTS IN HARFORD COUNTY. UNILATERALLY REMOVES A PRINCIPAL PERMITTED USE FROM THOSE LOTS. IT RESTRICTS THE USE OF THOSE LOTS, UH, IN A IN A VERY HARSH MANNER TO MINIMIZE THERE IS NO AND THIS IS ALMOST UNPRECEDENTED . THERE IS NO GRANDFATHERING TO PROTECT INDIVIDUALS WHO CURRENTLY OWN THESE LOTS. EXISTING BUSINESS PARKS THAT ARE FULLY DEVELOPED HAVE EXISTING ROAD NETWORKS, EXISTING WATER AND SEWER. OR HAVE EXISTING SITE PLAN APPROVALS. I WOULD URGE THIS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER GRANDFATHER FOR THOSE USES EXISTING USES OR EXISTING APPROVALS. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? MY NAME IS DEREK CHRISTIAN. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER OF ONE ON ONE SPECIFIC SHOVEL ROAD THAT'S IMPAIRMENT. UM I CAME HERE TODAY. HOPING TO, UH UNVEILED THE ELEPHANT IN THE

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UM ULTIMATELY, MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THIS HOME. DURING THE TIME OF THE RIGHT AGE SHOOTING AND NEVER DID. I THINK THAT THIS WAS GOING TO EVER AFFECT ME THAT THESE WAREHOUSES WOULD AFFECT MY LIFE AS IT IS TODAY. UM WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE WOULD BE OUT FOREVER HOME. BUT TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS WE HAVE TO RECONSIDER IT. UM I CAN'T EVEN SLEEP THROUGH THE NIGHT. THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. HITTING TRUCKS. TAKE MY TRASH HOLD AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

I'M ALMOST GETTING HIT BY THE WAREHOUSE WORKERS SPEEDING TO WORK CALLED FOR THE POLICE. THE POLICE WON'T RESPOND. I WE DESERVE THE RIGHT OF QUIET ENJOYMENT. I TO REPRESENT AN INVESTOR. HOWEVER MY INVESTORS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. YOU DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE BANKS.

YOU DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE MORTGAGES, BUT SOMETHING GO DIFFERENT. WE SPEND PROBABLY ON AVERAGE 16 HOURS A DAY IN OUR HOMES. OKAY BUT WHAT? WE WON'T GET WELL WITHOUT MY INVESTORS WILL NOT CATCH AMNESIA WHEN IT'S TIME TO CHANGE YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE. IF YOU VOTE AGAINST US, I PROMISE YOU THAT MY INVESTORS WILL VOTE AGAINST THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR YOU. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN A HOUSEHOLD THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED THAT WE CAN PASS ON TO GENERATIONS ON 44 ON SOMEONE HAS TO HEAR OUR CRY. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE PEACEFULLY, NOT BY TRUCKS. NOT BY BY BY MILLIONS OF WORKERS. I THINK THIS PARTICULAR LAND HAS REACHED HIS TOP POTENTIAL.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. REMEMBER WE WILL NOT KEEP ACT AT AMNESIA WHEN IT COMES TIME TO VOTE AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM NAME AND ADDRESS. ELIZABETH CHAMBERLAIN, 173 GLENVIEW TERRORISTS. AND I'LL ECHO ON HIS HIS INVESTORS SPEND OUR MONEY HERE. BY THE WAY , I SPEAK IN FAVOR OF BILL 23-0 TO 6 AND THANK THE BILLS CHAMPIONS. PROPERLY WORDED, APPROPRIATELY APPLIED ZONING DOES NOT INJURE PROPERTY VALUE. OR VIOLATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, ITS SAFEGUARDS THE VERY QUALITY OF LIFE THAT MAKES THIS AREA DESIRABLE THE QUALITY OF PLACE THAT WOULD ATTRACT INVESTORS WHO HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS IN MIND. MAY I ASK THAT IN ADDITION TO PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY'S TRAFFIC AND SAFETY INTERESTS, CAN WE PLEASE ALSO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT BY PRESERVING FORESTS AND WET LION WETLANDS, PERHAPS BY AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN REQUESTED? OUR REPRESENTATIVES AT THE STATE LEVEL ARE CURRENTLY WORKING TO STOP THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND TO REVERSE PAST DESTRUCTION. DURING THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING I ATTENDED. UH WELL, MR GUTHRIE WAS TELLING US ABOUT THE PLAN TO BUILD SIX NEW SPORTS COMPLEXES. THANK YOU. DID YOU KNOW THAT HARTFORD COUNTY KIDS FOOTBALL PRACTICE WAS CANCELED? DO YOU KNOW WHY IT WAS CANCELED? 103 DEGREES. IT WAS TOO HOT FOR THE KIDS TO SAFELY PLAY OUTSIDE. THAT'S NEW THAT DID NOT USED TO HAPPEN. OUR TEMPERATURES ARE CLIMBING IN HARFORD COUNTY. OUR MAIN 12 MONTH AVERAGE HAS INCREASED BY FOUR DEGREES OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION THIS YEAR WAS THE DRIEST YEAR TO DATE FOR THE PAST 129 YEARS, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL DROUGHT INFORMATION SYSTEM. DO YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE WE HAVE MOWED DOWN. THE SHADE TREES.

THIS LAND WAS NATURALLY EQUIPPED WITH AND WE REPLACED THEM WITH IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, CREATING WHAT ECOLOGISTS CALL A HEAT ISLAND. AS WE PAVE OVER MORE OF OUR EARTH, THE TREND WILL CONTINUE. THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, THOUGH IT'S THAT TOO, BECAUSE WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO A DOWNWARD SPIRAL. IT IS A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW CAUSED BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SAT IN THOSE CHAIRS BEFORE YOU AND THOSE BEFORE THEM. SO IF MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES REPLACE FOREST AND LAND, WHICH COULD BE REFORESTED. TO BUILD MEGA WAREHOUSES, APPARENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES, WALMART, ARTO AUCTIONS, EVEN ART COMPLEXES. ALL OVER THE PLACE AFTER DEVELOPERS CREATE MORE HEAT ISLANDS FOR PROFIT ALL AROUND WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO LIVE, DON'T BOTHER BUILDING SPORTS COMPLEXES OF CHILDREN'S WILL NOT CHILDREN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY OUTSIDE, THEY WILL BE USELESS. GOING FORWARD. CAN WE PLEASE COUNT ON YOU TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS HOLISTIC UNDERSTANDING OF HOW ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES IMPACT HEALTH AND LIFE. PLEASE ENSURE THAT THOSE INFORM OUR ZONING PRACTICES. PLEASE CONTINUE. TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS TO HALT DEFORESTATION. RESPONSIBLY

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WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT RECESS BEFORE WE START THE NEXT OR. CHAIR CALLS THE ORDER PUBLIC

[b. Bill 23-027 (Apartments - B3-General Business District)]

IT REMOVES APARTMENTS FROM THE B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THE PURPOSE OF B THREE IS TO PROVIDE A WIDE RANGE OF RETAIL SERVICES AND BUSINESSES TO SERVE THE LOCAL AND COUNTYWIDE COMMUNITY GENERALLY ON ARTERIAL ROADS. THESE TYPES OF BEN'S BUSINESSES DRIVE THE ECONOMY,

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CANNOT BE DETERMINED. THEREFORE THE IMPACT OF SCHOOL ENROLMENT PROJECTIONS CANNOT BE DETERMINED. IN OTHER WORDS, A B THREE PROPERTY COULD BE USED FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A CAR WASH. OR IT COULD PROVIDE HUNDREDS OF UNITS OF HOUSING PLANNERS CANNOT EFFECTIVELY PLANNED FOR THOSE TWO EXTREMES. THIS BILL DOES, HOWEVER, ALLOW FOR APARTMENTS AS PART OF A MIXED USE PROJECT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. GRIM ANYTHING, DAD. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME, SIR. THANK YOU. UM. I BELIEVE ALL OF US ARE OF THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE AREAS WHERE APARTMENTS ARE A GOOD FIT, AND THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NOT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE SITTING HERE TONIGHT. UM, AND WITH THAT. MR PAEMEN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THERE IS A PLACE FOR APARTMENTS IN SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTY. UM AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU KNOW. I'M HOPING JUST TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND, UM AND FIGURE OUT WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT RIGHT. UH LEVEL IS WHAT THAT RIGHT PERCENTAGES, BUT, UM, MR GRIMM, ARE YOU ABLE TO KIND OF COMPARE TO TRASH CONTRAST THE 23 11 BILL VERSUS THIS 23 27 BILL. WITH A DIFFERENCE OF THOSE BILLS. APOLOGIZE I'M ASSUMING THE 23 11 BILL WAS THE BILL THAT WAS INTRODUCED YES. EARLIER IN THE YEAR PRIOR TO THE SUMMER BREAK, YES. THE MAIN CHANGES IS THAT IN THE ORIGINAL BILL. MID RISE APARTMENTS WERE NOT LISTED IN THERE AS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE B THREE DISTRICT, SO THAT WAS AN ERROR. IT SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED GARDEN, MID RISE AND HIGH RISE APARTMENT, SO THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY THE MAIN CHANGE THAT WOULD HAVE PASSED APARTMENTS. MID RISE APARTMENTS WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN PERMITTED AND B THREE, OKAY? AND AS YOU ALLUDED TO THERE IS STILL THROUGH MIXED YOUTH USE APARTMENT IS STILL PERMITTED IN B THREE, WHICH IF WE WILL REMOVE APARTMENTS FROM B THREE OUTSIDE OF MIXED JUICE, IT WOULD ONLY AUTHORIZE IT AND R FOUR AND R THREE. IS THAT CORRECT? ARE FOR UNDER THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH R FOUR'S IS ON DEVELOPED TO PERMIT THAT? I HAVE THAT NUMBER? I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE IT SINCE I'M SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE THREE TONIGHT. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN MY HEAD. BUT I DO HAVE THAT. INFORMATION IN MY OFFICE AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT, OKAY? AND THE LAST IS JUST KIND OF A COMMENT. I KNOW THIS ISN'T PERTAINING TO ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT THE 3 15 3 17 MOUNTAIN ROAD WORK GROUP, I THINK HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL, UM, BASED OFF OF THAT WORKGROUP AND THE, UH, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THE COMMUNITY INPUT, WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT FOOTPRINT WITH THE DEVELOPER FROM 100 TO 48 APARTMENTS, AND THOSE 48 APARTMENTS WILL BE MARKETED. INITIALLY EXCLUSIVELY TO 55 AND ABOVE. I THINK THEY CALL THAT ACTIVE ADULTS OR SENIOR LIVING, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUED CONVERSATION, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL? UM MR JANITOR, DAN IT SO THANK YOU, MR GRAHAM AGAIN. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU WILL NEED FOR MIXED USE AND HOW MUCH IN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO BE COMMERCIAL. AND IS IT SPLIT UP INTO WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIALS? IT'S SPLIT UP INTO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THE INTENT OF MAKES USES TO BRING MANY DIFFERENT USES UNDER ONE PROJECT OR ONE BUILDING AND TO INTEGRATE THOSE USES TO PROVIDE WALK ABILITY AND FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE WHERE THEY WHERE THEY WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE PEOPLE THAT MAY BE EMPTY NESTERS THAT DON'T WANT

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THAT'S THAT'S LOOKED AT INTO THAT, AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SPECIALTY ON THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW. I MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN A MINUTE OR TWO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE? MR BENEFIT. UM HELLO. THANK YOU AGAIN. I THOUGHT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. AT THE LAST HEARING FOR THE PREVIOUS BILL. I LEARNED A LOT FROM THAT. UM BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO STEAL AGAIN THAT, UH, YOU KNOW? IF YOU DON'T OWN A CAR. TO LIVE IN ONE OF THESE APARTMENTS THAT IS NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA CAN BE HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH AND HARMFUL TO YOUR SAFETY AND JUST GETTING TO WHAT YOU NEED. UM, IT'S YOU KNOW, THESE B THREE ZONED AREAS ARE NOT SET UP NECESSARILY FOR YOU TO GET TO WHAT YOU NEED, WHICH WAS SPOKEN TO IN YOUR COMMENTS, BUT ALSO IN DESIGNATING, UM B THREE FOR MIXED JUICE. ONLY THAT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE POTENTIAL NUMBER OF APARTMENTS IN THOSE AH, IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS IF THERE WAS TO BE AN APARTMENT IN B THREE, IS THAT CORRECT? COULD YOU STAY? SIT QUESTIONING IT. SAME AMOUNT OF LAND AND A B THREE PROPERTY IF YOU WERE TO ALLOW GARDEN APARTMENTS VERSUS ONLY ALLOWING MIXED USE APARTMENTS BY ONLY ALLOWING MIXED, USE YOUR LIMITING THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS THAT COULD POSSIBLY FIT ON THAT LAND BECAUSE THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SO MUCH SPACE USED FOR BUSINESS OPERATIONS ON THAT PROPERTY. CORRECT PERCENTAGES IN THE ZONING CODES SPECIFY HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN BE RESIDENT. SO YOU KNOW. FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT CREATE A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS WHO COME INTO THOSE MIXED USE DEPARTMENTS BUT ALSO LOWERS THE LEVEL OF IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT ON SCHOOLS, PARKS AND REC ROADS AND SO ON. AND FROM A WALK, ABILITY PERSPECTIVE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST HEARING. THE CLOSER PEOPLE ARE TO WHAT THEY NEED, THE LESS THEY'RE USING OUR RUDES AND THE LESS WE ARE SPENDING PER RESIDENT ON THERE JUST DAILY UPKEEP TO GET TO WHAT THEY NEED. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN MAKE A NEW RESIDENTS OF HARTFORD COUNTY WHO ARE POSITIVE ON A TAX REVENUE BASIS AND SERVING THAT NEGATIVE. UM SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING BACK SOME OF THOSE POINTS OF COMMENT THAT WE HAD JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE MISTAKES AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP OR SHE'S NOT HERE? SHE SLIPPED OUT ON US.

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WE WANT POLITICIANS WHO CARE MORE ABOUT PEOPLE THAN MONEY AND POWER. SO WE SEE NOTE OVERDEVELOPMENT JUST TO BE CLEAR . I AM NOT ANTI DEVELOPMENT. BUT THIS IS ANTI THIS IS NOT

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FRIENDS OF HARFORD SUPPORTS REMOVING THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FROM THE B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT BUSINESS DISTRICTS, 12 AND THREE PROVIDE GOODS AND SERVICES TO THOSE WHO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES. THAT WERE DEVELOPED WITHIN RESIDENTIAL DISGRACE. THE ANALYSIS BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING IDENTIFIED THE RAPIDLY DEVELOPING DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE AND THE LIMITED INVENTORY OF B THREE THAT REMAINS TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THE USE OF THE THREE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CREATES COMMUNITY HARDSHIP AND HINDERS PLANNING FOR THAT. INSURERS ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, ROADS, SEWERS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT PROPOSED HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE USE OF APARTMENTS AND B THREE ZONING IS AS AN ACTION PLAN FOR THE WORKFORCE. HOUSING IS PROBLEMATIC. UH FOR ANALYZING AND PLANNING SUITABLE AREAS FOR HOUSING IN OUR OUR COUNTY. I JUST WANT TO MENTION TONIGHT IF WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT SUPPORTING OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITIES IN WHICH A LOT OF THE ORGANIZATIONS CAME OUT. PRIOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. MAYBE WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THOSE BUSINESS SERVICES BEING APPLIED TO THOSE BUSINESS COMMUNITIES. SO PLEASE VOTE SUPPORT THE BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM NAME AND ADDRESS HERE. 28 14 CROSS COUNTRY COURT BOSTON. SOME YEARS AGO, MYSELF AND MANY OTHER LOCAL RESIDENTS WERE IN THE MIDST OF WORKING VERY HARD TO HAVE OUR LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL REPLACED. I RECALL SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING AT THE BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING ABOUT THE EFFICACY OF SPENDING $4 MILLION PLUS STATE FUNDS ON AIR CONDITIONING INSTALLATION IN A SCHOOL THAT HAD LEAD IN THE WATER AND AS A RESULT, BOARDED UP WATER FOUNTAINS. ASBESTOS IN MULTIPLE AREAS, BUCKETS AND TRASH CANS IN THE HALLWAYS, COLLECTING RAIN WATER THAT LEAKED THROUGH THE ROOF. AND CHILDREN SITTING ON THE FLOOR, TAKING TESTS ON CLIPBOARDS

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PERRY HOLDS POPULATION IN 1980 WAS 13,455. BY 1990. THEY GREW TO 22,723 2020 CENSUS FOR PERRY HALL WAS 29,409 BY COMPARISON, FALLSTON IN 2020 CENSUS HAD A POPULATION OF 9118. IN THE LATE NINETIES AND EARLY TWO THOUSANDS WHEN I ATTENDED FALLSTON HIGH SCHOOL, PERRY HALL HIGH SCHOOL HAD A VERY COMPARABLE STUDENT BODY DEMOGRAPHIC. UH PERRY HALL WAS OVERPOPULATED IN THAT THOSE

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THERE WERE 280 STUDENTS IDENTIFIED IN THE 2022 TO 2023 SCHOOL YEAR. THERE WERE 523 STUDENTS IDENTIFIED AND OUR ENROLLMENT AND FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH HAS GROWN TO 922 STUDENTS , WHICH IS ABOUT 48% OF OUR STUDENT POPULATION. TO BE CLEAR. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING AREAS HAVING APARTMENT BUT I AM OPPOSED TO APARTMENTS IN B THREE WHERE THE ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW TO COUNT FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL AMOUNT GOING IN. UM AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND WALK ABILITY . I DO WANT TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT IN PERRY HALL, THERE ARE THE SAFETY FEATURES OF THE WALKWAYS AND THE DO NOT WALK AND WALK INDICATORS. WE DON'T SEE THAT IN HARFORD COUNTY, AND AS A RESULT WE HAVE HAD PEDESTRIANS STRUCK IN RECENT YEARS IN OUR ROADWAYS. UM SO ON HARFORD FIRE BLOG. THERE WAS A PEDESTRIAN STRUCK IN 2021 AT ABERDEEN ROUTE 40. I MAY 5TH 2022, AN ADULT AND CHILD WERE STRUCK IN THE ROADWAY AT MARYLAND, 24 AND EDGEWOOD ROAD WANTS YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS.

JAMES O'BRIEN, 17 35. SHAKESPEARE. DR HELLER, MARYLAND. UM I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THE HONORABLE COUNCIL FOR PEOPLE FOR LISTENING TO. OUR SUPPLICATIONS HERE. I'M A 40/40 YEAR RESIDENT. IN HARTFORD COUNTY. I WANT TO STAY AT THE OUTSET. I'M NOT AGAINST PROPERTY RIGHTS, A MATTER OF FACT, I'M SUPPORTER. LIKE ALL RIGHTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE . THIS ISN'T THE WILD WEST. YOU NEED A GOVERNMENT. INDEED. THE LAWS YOU NEED THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE IT COHESIVE. MAKE IT WORK. MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY . SO IT'S A YOU KNOW, IT'S A SYNERGY. UM IT'S CLEAR I'M FOR THE BILL 23 27 AND I THANK THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR PUTTING IT FORTH. UM. AND THEN THEY TALK ABOUT THIS MORATORIUM. AND THEN THINGS ARE CHANGING WELL, WHEN YOU COME INTO A NEW OFFICE AND YOU HEAR AND MAYBE LEARN OF A LITMUS PLANNING CONCERNING PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN BROKEN. FOR YEARS. THEN THE FIRST THING YOU DO IF, AS WAS STATED, YOU WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, WHICH EVERYBODY UP THERE WANTS TO DO YOU GO. WAIT A MINUTE.

LET'S STOP EVERYTHING. LET ME STUDY IT. AND THEN AND AS YOU DO , THAT YOU'LL LEARN THINGS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AND THEN NEW INFORMATION WILL COME IN. SO YOU HAVE TO CHANGE. THAT'S JUST THE HUMAN THING. AND THAT'S WHAT UM UM COUNTY EXECUTIVE BECAUSE ILIAS FACED HERE, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE THREE IS IT SOMETHING FOR? RETAIL YOU KNOW? I MEAN, IS IT SOMETHING FOR APARTMENTS OR RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S REASONABLE RETAIL. UM IN THIS. THIS IS A RESULT OF COMPREHENSIVE, REASONABLE, COMPREHENSIVE REZONING. SO THIS WILL HELP CORRECT THAT. IN THE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND ZONING, THEIR FREE THREE BASIC GROUPS. THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP, WHICH THE OWNERS TO MAXIMIZE THEIR VALUE, THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES, CONSTRUCTION, ETCETERA, THEY JUST MAKE MONEY ON WHAT THEY'RE TOLD TO DO, AND THE LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO DO THE LOBBYIST WHOSE JOB IS TO ZEALOUSLY REPRESENT THE CLIENT. CLIENT WANTS TO GET THE MOST OUT OF MONEY OUT OF THAT PROPERTY. UH AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO REPRESENT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY THINK. SO BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THERE'S THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. UH, TRADITIONALLY. PLANNING AND ZONING HAS BEEN, UM NOT THE BEST FRIEND OF THE REGULAR PUBLIC. THE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE ARE IN THERE ALL THE TIME. THE LAWYERS ARE IN THERE ALL THE TIME THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HAIL FELLOW ONE THAT THEY HELP SUPPORT. YOU KNOW THE CAMPAIGNS, WHICH IS RIGHT TO DO I MEAN, THAT'S FINE. OF THE PEOPLE SO THEY HAVE ACCESS WITH ACCESS COMES INFLUENCE. BUT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE THAT. PUBLIC THEY FIND OUT IF THEY'RE LUCKY, SOME THINGS ABOUT THE CHANGE AND IT'S BIG AND IT'S GOING TO HURT THEM. SO THEY DON'T KNOW THE LAWS. THEY, UM THEY GO INTO THE PLANNING CONCERNING AND I COULD

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THERE'S WAIT FOR THE LEGAL COUNSEL TO GET IT. OH, YOU HAVE TO DO A FOIA REQUEST FOR SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD, AND YOU REMEMBER THE PUBLIC AND IT'S ACCESSIBLE. THAT'S GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. JIM, PLEASE BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO CLOSE. WELL MY LAST THING IS GOING TO CROSSROADS AT, UM HICKORY AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE MY ARGUMENT . WHY THIS HAS TO PASS. THANK YOU. DEBORAH SCHREIBER, FOLLOWED BY FRED SIR. KEYS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS. EXCUSE ME, DEBBIE SCHREIBER. 11 14 STRONG CODE DRIVE. THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

MEMBERS AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT PATRICK LANGUAGE TO SPEAK CROSSED A LOT OF THINGS OFF BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID THEM AND WE'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. SO I DO SUPPORT BILL 23 0-27. WITH NO AMENDMENTS. AND MR GRAHAM, I'M SORRY IF I QUOTE THIS WRONG, BUT I'VE FROM GOING BACK ON MAY 16TH YOU STATED THEM TO BE FREE HAS APPROXIMATELY 305 ACRES. I HEAR IT WAS 100 AND 88 NOW REMAINING THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN THESE PROPERTIES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. MOST B THREE ACRES HAVE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES AS CROSSROADS IN OR NOT CROSS HERBAL A NON WALKABLE WE HAVE NEITHER THE INFRASTRUCTURE FULL CAPACITY, AURIEMMA'S AND HOSPITALS THAT CAN MAINTAIN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF HARTFORD COUNTY. NOT JUST LIKE SOME TOWN OF PFOSTEN, AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO MENTION THAT I'M DEFINITELY NOT ANTI BUSINESS. THAT'S FINE. WE ALL NEED BUSINESS. AND IT BELONGS IN CERTAIN AREAS AND I AM ALSO IN SUPPORT OF BILL 23 0 TO 6. UM WE HAVE A LOT ANYWHERE HOUSES IN HARFORD COUNTY, AND I WANTED TO THANK COUNTY EXECUTIVE BOB CASSILLY FOR BRINGING STILL THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. PLEASE. HI I'M DR FRED CIRCUS 11 14 STRONG CO DR AND PFOSTEN. UM.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTE AND ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. I SUPPORT BILL 23 027 WITH NO AMENDMENTS. UM I ASKED THAT ALL COUNTY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES VOTE YES FOR THIS BILL. UM I ALSO SUPPORT BILLS 23 026 AND 23 028. REGARDING WAREHOUSES AND TERM LIMITS. UM A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT, UM THE EFFECT, UH WITH APARTMENTS AND CRIME, THE ENVIRONMENT INFRASTRUCTURE. SCHOOLS AS A PHYSICIAN. I WAS JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF MEDICAL ISSUES. UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HARFORD COUNTY, ONLY HAVING ONE HOSPITAL WHEN HORFORD MEMORIAL CLOSES. UM IT'S PROJECTED TO CLOSE. I THINK, BY THE END OF THIS YEAR OR EARLY SPRING OF NEXT YEAR UM. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE WILL BE A LACK OF HOSPITAL BEDS FOR NEW ADMISSIONS AND WAIT TIMES IN THE ER WILL INCREASE MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE NOW. UM SO CURRENTLY, ACCORDING TO, UM HOSPITAL STATS .ORG FOR CHESAPEAKE IS NOW RATED AS ONLY AN AVERAGE HOSPITAL. UM I'M CONCERNED THAT IF THERE ARE APARTMENTS THAN THE QUALITY OF CARE WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE OF THE SOMEWHERE PEOPLE. SO MANY MORE PEOPLE. AND THE WAIT TIMES IN THE E R WILL GO UP. THE LATEST FIGURES THAT I SAW WAS RIGHT NOW SOMEONE'S ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL AND UPPER CHESAPEAKE, UM THE AVERAGE TIME TO GET ADMITTED AND GET TO A ROOM IS NOW FOUR HOURS AND 88 MINUTES, SO THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE, WHICH COULD OBVIOUSLY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF CARE. UM ACCORDING TO MEDICARE DOT GOV HOSPITAL COMPARE, UM UPPER CHESAPEAKE IS ACTUALLY A TO STORE RATING HOSPITAL. B OVERALL STAR RATING FOR HOSPITALS SUMMARIZES QUALITY INFORMATION OR AN IMPORTANT TOPICS LIKE READMISSIONS. AND DEATHS AFTER MAJOR ILLNESSES SUCH AS HEART ATTACKS. THEY CONCENTRATE ON THE FIVE QUALITY HERE INDICATORS OR MORTALITY, SAFETY OF CARE, READMISSIONS PATIENT EXPERIENCE AND TIMELY AND EFFECTIVE CARE. UM. CURRENTLY ACCORDING TO MEDICARE DOT GOV. THEY ALSO RATE NURSING HOMES TO, UM UPPER CHESAPEAKE IS A TWO STAR RATING

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UPPER CHESAPEAKE HAS BEEN ON RED ALERT SINCE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. SO THAT'S LIKE 20 HOURS. RIGHT NOW.

THEY'VE BEEN ON RED ALERT, WHICH MEANS NO CARDIAC BEDS. THANK YOU, SIR. PRETTY DANGEROUS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FERN A WHITE, FOLLOWED BY LAUREN HAUSER, HEUSER. HARMS YOU. WAS HEUSER. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. HI LAUREN HEUSER, 2087 STEWART DRIVE AND PFOSTEN. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT BILL 23-0 TO 7. APARTMENTS HAVE A MORE SUBSTANTIAL EFFECT ON PUBLIC FACILITIES SUCH AS SCHOOLS, FIRE AND E. M S THAN TYPICAL BUSINESS USES. IN ORDER TO HAVE ACCURATE PLANNING AND FORECASTING. THEY SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN B THREE ACTUALLY FEEL THAT ALL RESIDENTIAL USES TO BE REMOVED FROM B THREE ZONING DEPARTMENTS ARE THE HIGHEST DENSITY USE CURRENTLY IN B THREE SUPPORT THIS BILL AS THE FIRST STEP TO NEEDED CHANGE. THE B ONE B TWO AND B THREE DISTRICTS ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT AND CONVENIENT LOCATIONS FOR BUSINESS USES THAT SERVE THE NEEDS OF LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES AND THE TRAVELING PUBLIC. B THREE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A WIDE RANGE OF RETAIL. SERVICE AND BUSINESS USES SERVING LOCAL AND COUNTY WIDE AREAS, NOT RESIDENTIAL. B THREE ZONING SHOULD BE LIMITED TO BUSINESS PURPOSES PER THE DESCRIPTION. AND I FEEL THAT APARTMENTS REQUIRE ADDITIONAL REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION BEYOND WHAT'S REQUIRED IN B THREE ZONING. THE COUNCIL SHOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ESPECIAL DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS TO HIGH RISE MID RISE AND GARDEN APARTMENTS AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO INCLUDE SIDEWALKS, ADEQUATE SCHOOL CAPACITY. APPROVED PLANS FOR NEW SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL PROVIDE ADEQUATE CAPACITY. AND THAT ADEQUATE CAPACITY SHOULD BE THERE PRIOR TO USE AND OCCUPANCY PERMITS BEING ISSUED. WALKABLE RESOURCES, FOOD SHOPPING, INCREASED OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION REQUIREMENTS AND PUBLIC SAFETY PLANS. ANY APPROVED APARTMENT SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH SURROUNDING ARCHITECTURE, INCLUDING THE NUMBER OF STORIES LIKE I SAID, THIS BILL IS A GOOD FIRST STEP TO RIGHT THE SHIP, SO TO SPEAK IN THIS COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I WANT TO ALSO THANK MR GRIMM, WHOSE PATIENTLY ANSWERED MANY OF MY QUESTIONS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS SO THAT I CAN BE INFORMED AND HELPED TO INFORM OTHERS. I'M VERY NEW TO ALL OF THIS, BUT WOULD STILL CONFUSES ME. IS THAT IF THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR DISTRICT IS INFORMED, AND VERY UNITED IN SUPPORT OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS BILL WE SHOULD ASSUME THAT WE HAVE YOUR VOTE.

OTHERWISE I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU EITHER KNOW BETTER THAT YOUR OPINION IS MORE IMPORTANT OR THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING SOMEONE ELSE'S INTEREST. I HOPE THAT WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ERIN DINNEEN, FOLLOWED BY JOSH CASTLE.

GOOD EVENING, MA'AM NAME AND ADDRESS THEIR ERRAND. JANINE 509 A RAMA. DR. AS A RESIDENT HARTFORD COUNTY I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF BILL 23 0 TO 7 SPEAKING TO YOU TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND VOTE. YES TO THIS BILL, AS IS SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. FOR MANY REASONS, ONE IN PARTICULAR IS THAT COUNTYWIDE SCHOOL ENROLMENT FORECASTING. DOES NOT, AND HAS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AND BUSINESS ZONING, ALSO KNOWN AS B THREE, THERE ARE OVER 188 ACRES, WHICH MIGHT BE UP FOR DEBATE. MY CREATURE OF UNDEVELOPED BE THROUGH LAND AND HARPER COUNTY CURRENT ZONING CODE ALLOWS 100 UNITS PER FIVE ACRES FROM MID RISE APARTMENTS.

I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT MATH AND LET THIS LEGISLATION IS NEEDED TO PROTECT OUR SCHOOLS.

THE BENSON APARTMENTS NOT TOO FAR DOWN. THE ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE ADDED 25 STUDENTS TOWARDS SCHOOLS, WHICH IS MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WAS THEY WERE EXPECTED TO YIELD. YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE

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THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. OUR SCHOOLS ARE OVER OVERCROWDED . BELLAIRE ELEMENTARY YOUTH BENEFIT HAVE ANY GRACE IN RED PUMP JUST TO NAME A FEW? ROADS ARE OVERCROWDED WITH TRAFFIC AND ACCIDENTS AS THEY ARE ALREADY FAILING, FALLING APART AND CANNOT HANDLE ANY MORE ADDITIONS . THIS INCLUDES, BUT NOT LIMITED TO 1 50 TO 15 43 20 TO 1 36 23 AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

HOSPITAL BEDS ARE FALLING IN OVERALL TOTALS, BUT WE ARE TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN HANDLE THE HUGE INFLUX OF PEOPLE. THE APARTMENTS AND HIGH DENSITY HOUSINGS WILL BRING THE ENVIRONMENT IS A SECOND THOUGHT IN BEING DESTROYED AT THE HANDS OF DEVELOPERS AND FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS TO SUFFER. BYRON E. M S RESOURCES ARE BEING EXHAUSTED, AND THEY, TOO, HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DESIGN AND FUNCTIONALITY OF THE APARTMENTS COMING TO HARFORD COUNTY. THIS ISN'T THIS IS LEADING TO AN HARMONIOUS DESIGN OF THE COUNTY. FOR INSTANCE, A GARAGE BELOW APARTMENTS LIKE IN PFOSTEN. LOOKING AT ZONING CODE SECTION 2 67-74 SECTION C DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SUBSECTION THREE DESIGN. THE PROPOSED PROJECT SHALL BE DESIGNED WITH BUILDINGS WHICH ARE COMPATIBLE IN A HARMONIOUS WITH SURROUNDING USES . HOW ARE THESE BUILDINGS HARMONIOUS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MENTIONED THE PARK PARKING GARAGE UNDERNEATH THE APARTMENT IN FALLSTON. I WANT TO BRING THIS UP SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE, UM, BOTH FIRE AND E. M S HAVE GONE ON RECORD, SAYING THAT THEY HAVE MAJOR CONCERNS WITH HAVING A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ELECTRONIC VEHICLES INSIDE OF THOSE APARTMENTS URGE INSIDE THIS PARKING GARAGES. THIS BILL IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED, AND I BELIEVE MORE IS NEEDED TO PAST ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE RUBBER STAMPED TOO MANY PROJECTS IN PLACE THIS COUNTY IN A STRANGE STATE. USING THE WAREHOUSE MORATORIUM AS AN EXAMPLE. FURTHER ACTION IS NEEDED IN THE OVERDEVELOPMENT IN HIGH DENSITY HOUSING HAS BECOME A PROBLEM IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTY. IN THE WAREHOUSE MORATORIUM, IT SAYS A 90 DAY MORATORIUM ON THE ISSUANCE OF ANY APPROVALS OR PERMITS FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT OF ANY WAREHOUSES IN HARFORD COUNTY , SO THAT THE COUNTY OR HARVARD COUNTY GOVERNMENT CAN STUDY AND RECONSIDER ITS ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WITH RESPECT TO SUCH FACILITIES. LET'S REPLACE WAREHOUSE WITH HIGH DENSITY HOUSING GARDEN APARTMENTS, MID RISE APARTMENTS , HIGH RISE APARTMENTS AND MIXED USE PROPERTIES. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AROUND THE COUNTY IS NOT AFFORDABLE AND JUST LARGE PROJECT LINING THE POCKETS OF DEVELOPERS AND POLITICIANS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, SIR HUBNER, FOLLOWED BY MATT CHANDLER. HMM. GOOD EVENING, SIR. EVENING YOU HEAR ME? YES SIR, TEND TO HAVE A PODIUM HERE. YES, SIR. YES SIR, SAID HUBNER, 508, STRATFORD ROAD AND FALLSTON. UM I'M HERE TALKING FAVOR OF 23 0 27. UM. SOME OF MY COMMENTS HAVE CHANGED SINCE I SAT THROUGH THE OTHER ONE DEBATE. UM UP. I'VE HEARD THE TERM PROPERTY RIGHTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT UM ALSO HEARD THE. ZONING CHANGES AMOUNTING TO ILLEGAL TAKING OF PROPERTY WITHOUT PROPER COMPENSATION. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT COMES FROM, UM I'M NOT A LAWYER. I'M AN ENGINEER. BUT I INVITE YOU TO LOOK AT, UM AMBLER REALTY VERSUS THE CITY OF EUCLID. WHICH IS A SUPREME COURT DECISION IN 1926,

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NAME AND ADDRESS. CHANDLER 8 41 RIPPLE STREAM COURT JABBA MARYLAND TO 10 85. I DON'T HAVE A FANCY SUIT. I LIVE IN HARTFORD COUNTY, AND I STATED MY COMPLETE ADDRESS, SO I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.

I WANT TO READ FIVE LINES TO YOU. PROVIDE FOR AN ENRICHMENT HANSE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT BY THE PRESERVATION OF TREES. ENCOURAGE ORDERLY AND STAGE DEVELOPMENT. BUILDINGS WHICH ARE COMPATIBLE AND HARMONIOUS WITH SURROUNDING AREAS AND MINIMIZE IMPACT. CONSIDER THE EXISTING NATURAL FEATURES BICYCLES, PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLES, TRAFFIC. AND PREDICT THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE ARE STATEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE HARPER COUNTY ZONING CODE FOR WHICH THIS BILL REFERENCES. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS CAN FIT IN THIS CRITERIA. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MULTISTORY MID AND HIGH RISE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS COULD POSSIBLY FIT INTO THIS CRITERIA. IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF TRAFFIC, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. FOUR DAYS AGO, AS OTHERS MENTIONED THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS ABOUT A MASSIVE DIE OFF IN THE CHESAPEAKE BAY AS A RESULT OF HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN OUR BACKYARDS IN JOPPA, JUST A FEW MILES IN YOUR HOMES IN BOSTON.

WHERE IS THE PRESERVATION OF THE TREES AND THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS REQUIRED. MR FARR SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY AT A BREAKING POINT WHEN WE HAD HUNDREDS OF HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS HOUSE THIS ORDERLY AND STAGED MOST OF OUR ROADS WHERE MANY OF THESE B THREE LOCATIONS ARE LOCATED, ARE ALREADY OVERBURDENED. HOW IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE STATED CERTAIN GOALS AS I MENTIONED EARLIER? EVEN WITH HIS PASSAGE, MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON ZONING , UH TO 67 70 62 IS THAT 75? OF THE USE AND BE THREE CAN STILL BE RESIDENTIAL, FOR EXAMPLE, 5.21 PARCEL WOULD STILL ALLOW 75 APARTMENTS INSTEAD OF I STILL ASK THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PASSED THIS BILL AND LOOK FOR FURTHER ENHANCEMENTS. IN RESPONSE TO MR PENGUINS, COMMENT ABOUT 3 15. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DEVELOPER ONLY READ TWO SENIOR HOUSING FOR THE 1ST 730 DAYS. AND NOTHING IS BINDING FOR THE APARTMENT COUNTED. THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY CHANGED HIS MIND ON FOR OTHER PROPERTIES , SETTING ADVERSELY IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. MR PENDANT, ASKED ABOUT PERCENTAGES OF RESIDENTIAL AND BE FREE AND MIXED. I DO HAVE THAT FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL 75% SERVICE USES 75% RETAIL TRADE 50 INSTITUTIONAL 15. I HAVE THE REST OF THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. AND THE LAST SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS LINDA ZISKIN. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND

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[c. Bill 23-028 (Charter Amendment - Term Limits)]

THEY VOTED CURTIS OFF AND JACOB IS ON. SO ROB WAGNER WAS ALSO ONE THEY VOTED ROB OFF AND JESSICA'S ON. SO UM, YOU KNOW, WE TRIED WORKING WITH THEM TRYING TO PUT THAT THROUGH BEFORE THEY WERE TRUE BOTH BILLS SO THIS BILL IS NOW GOING TO GO TO THE PUBLIC. UM AND THIS IS WHAT IT REPRESENTS. SO THANK YOU COUNTY COUNCIL. UM COUNCIL. ANYONE ELSE, MR PAEMEN? UM. I WANT TO FIRST JUST SAY I'M EXCITED FOR THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT TERM LIMITS. UM YOU KNOW THIS TIME LAST YEAR, I DON'T THINK IT WAS A CONVERSATION AT ALL. I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY MYSELF AND SOME COLLEAGUES. MEMBERS DISAGREE ON THE NATURE OF THE NUMBER OF TERMS, BUT IT'S STILL ENCOURAGING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. UM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PULSE OF OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE DONE A COUPLE INITIATIVES THAT KIND OF SEE WHERE PEOPLE BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE WHETHER TWO OR THREE TERMS IS APPROPRIATE, SO I'VE DONE SO WITH AN ELECTRONIC POLL THAT POLE WENT OUT TO A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE OF 324 PEOPLE, AND FROM THAT 324 PEOPLE SAMPLE SIZE. 79% OF IT WERE IN FAVOR OF TWO TERMS. AH WHILE 19.8 WERE IN FAVOR OF THREE AND 1.2 IN FAVOR OF NO TERM LIMITS. IN THAT POLL. ALSO THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS SECTIONS. UM WE JUST READ A COUPLE OF THE MORE POWERFUL COMMENTS SECTIONS THAT WERE IN THAT POLL. NUMBER ONE TERM LIMITED POLITICIANS WOULD BE INCLINED TO VOTE WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS. THE SECOND ONE. I FEEL LIKE TERM LIMITS ARE NEEDED NOW BECAUSE POLITICIANS IN THIS IN THIS COUNTRY OR NOT FOCUSED ON THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE NUMBER THREE PUTTING TERM LIMITS ON POLITICIANS IS AS NECESSARY STEP TOWARDS ENSURING A HEALTHY AND VIBRANT DEMOCRACY. POLITICIANS WHO SERVE ENDLESS TERMS CAN BE BECOME COMPLACENT AND DISCONNECTED. FROM THE NEEDS AND THE CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT TURN LIMITS ENSURE A REGULAR TURNOVER ELECTED OFFICIALS ALLOWING FRESH PERSPECTIVES AND NEW IDEAS TO ENTER INTO POLITICAL LANDSCAPE. THIS PROMOTES ACCOUNTABILITY AND PREVENTS THE CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN THE HANDS OF A FEW INDIVIDUALS. MOREOVER TERM LIMITS HELPED TO PREVENT THE EMERGENCE OF A POLITICAL CLASS THAT IS DETACHED FROM THE REALITIES OF EVERYDAY CITIZENS BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF TERMS OF POLITICIAN CONCERNED. WE CAN COURAGE, A MORE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE REPRESENTATION, FOSTER IN A MORE RESPONSIVE AND REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. I BELIEVE TERM LIMITS SHOULD BE IN PLACE FOR LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL POSITIONS. THE PRESIDENT UNITED STATES AND THE STATE GOVERNORS HAVE A LIMIT OF 24 YEAR TERMS. THE SAME SHOULD APPLY FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN THE SENATE. THIS PROBLEM IS NEITHER SIDE WOULD VOTE TO PASS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY IS NO LONGER SERVE. WE THE PEOPLE LIKE WE LIKE THEY WERE ELECTED TO SERVE THEMSELVES ON THE LAST ONE IS POTUS AS TERM LIMITS. WHY SHOULD LESSER OFFICERS HAVE ANYTHING LESS? IN ADDITION, I SENT A MAIL OR OUT AND THEN THE ON THAT MAIL OR I RECEIVED 144 RESPONSES, UM, FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM FOUR TO TERM LIMITS. THESE PLAYS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THE TIME TO CUT OUT THE CARD AND SEND IT BACK FOR TWO TERM LIMITS, SO I THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE. FOR TWO TERM LIMITS IS THE ANSWER FOR HARFORD COUNTY. I

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YOU KNOW, I CALL THIS LEGISLATION FEEL GOOD LEGISLATION. I SAID THAT BEFORE.

SAY IT AGAIN, BECAUSE, UH, I DID A SURVEY OF ALL THE PEOPLE UP THERE ON ALL THOSE PICTURES. DID THAT SURVEY. THERE ARE 51 PEOPLE WHO WERE ELECTED TO THE SEATS COUNTING THIS THIS THE SEVEN PEOPLE SITTING HERE NOW. 51 PEOPLE OF THE 51 PEOPLE. 78% OF THE 51 PEOPLE ELECTED SERVED TWO TERMS OR LESS. IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. WHEN YOU GET IT WHEN YOU GET TO, UH, THREE TERMS YOUR YOU DON'T WANT IT DROPS TO ABOUT SEVEN PEOPLE. AND IT GETS KEEPS GETTING LESS. I'VE SERVED NOW I'VE SERVED 12 YEARS AND NOW I'M SERVING FOR MORE SO I'VE BEEN HER SERVED 16 YEARS AND I'M RETURN. I'M DONE. UM ONLY ONE PERSON EVER SERVED 20 YEARS AND THAT WAS ROB WAGNER, AND HE JUST GOT BEAT. UM AND HE'S THE ONLY PERSON EVER IN HISTORY OF HARFORD COUNTY SERVED 20 YEARS.

AH! RIGHT NOW. UH RIGHT NOW, I'M SORRY SUPPORT THIS BILL BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A COMPROMISE BILL.

MORE THAN MORE THAN LIKELY. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I'VE DONE. AND, UH AND YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALWAYS JUST TALK ABOUT TERMINAL AND BUT BY THE WAY, THERE'S 18. THERE'S 23 COUNTIES. I THINK IN IN IN IN IN THE END BALTIMORE CITY IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND AND 18 COUNTIES DON'T HAVE TERM LIMITS. AND A LOT OF THEM ARE REVERSING THEIR SITUATION ON TERM LIMITS, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE UM, IF YOU WANT A BUSINESS YOU EMPLOY SOMEBODY. AND THEY NOW WORK. EIGHT YEARS, TWO TERMS. AND THEN YOU SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL. THEY HAVE WORKED FOR ME FOR EIGHT YEARS. THERE ARE GREAT EMPLOYEE OUTSTANDING SERVICE. WELL, YOU'RE FIRED BECAUSE YOU DID TWO TERMS YOU'RE GOING NO DOESN'T HAPPEN. YOU KNOW THEY'RE ALL KIND OF PEOPLE EMPLOYED ACROSS THE STREET FOR 18 2030 YEARS. DO YOU TELL THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE SERVED SO LONG, NO LONGER HAVE A JOB. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY UP HERE THAT SPENT A LOT OF TIME. UH YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA LEARN THEIR WAY THROUGH THE ROPES LIKE I DID. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY THINGS AND, UH I WAS ON A COUNCIL FROM 2000 TO 2014 AND WAS OFF THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS AND NOW I'M BACK. I CAN'T BELIEVE WHEN I'VE COME BACK HOW MANY THINGS HELP ME KNOWING ALL MY WAY AROUND THE COUNTY AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL HERE THAT I THAT I WORK WITH AND HOW TO GET THINGS DONE AND TALK TO PEOPLE. CAN GET EVERYTHING DONE, BUT THAT'S PAT'S FAULT. NO I WON'T BLAME HIM. UH BUT SO I TOOK THIS BILL AS AS A COMPROMISE BILL. SINCE 78% OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER SET UP HERE HAVE ONLY DONE TWO TERMS OR LESS . AND ONLY ABOUT SEVEN MORE PEOPLE. HAVE DONE THREE TERMS. SO THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING OF THE BILL. THAT'S BEFORE US 23 28. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. ANYONE ELSE? MR RILEY? YES, I'M ALSO A GHOST SPONSOR OF THIS BILL, AND I HEAR ON THE STREET THAT THERE'S A SMOKESCREEN GOING OUT THERE THAT THE REASON WHY WE ARE PUTTING THIS THROUGH IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH A PENSION.

NOT ONLY THREE OF US WILL EVER RECEIVE A PENSION FROM THIS BILL PENSIONS, NOT EVEN IN PLAY. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS , I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD BE AGAINST THIS BILL. IT'S A CHOICE. THEY CAN GO WITH WHATEVER'S OUT THERE, OR THEY CAN GO WITH THIS PARTICULAR BILL, SO AS FAR AS I SEE IT, IT'S A GOOD CHOICE FOR THE PEOPLE. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS COUNCILMAN PENDANT SAID HE GOT 144 OF THOSE LETTERS BACK AND JUST REMEMBER THERE'S 100,000 PEOPLE THAT VOTE IN HARFORD COUNTY 140 FOR THAT. IT DOESN'T SAY THAT HE'S GOT AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY FOR THIS. THANK YOU, MR BRENNAN. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. MR BENNETT. YEAH YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM PEOPLE TONIGHT AND IN THE FUTURE , JUST TWO THOUGHTS AS COUNCILMAN PENMAN WAS READING THOSE POSTCARDS. I THINK MANY OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE ABSENT FROM THE LOCAL REALITY OF HARTFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND SPEAKING TO A LARGER PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATION. OF NATIONALS GOVERNMENT OR THE IDEA OF GOVERNMENT. UM AND I THINK WITH MAKING A CHANGE TO THE HARFORD

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR JAMES JORDAN OR ANYONE ELSE? YOU WILL. THERE ARE FOUR SPEAKERS

[2. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS]

A NEGATIVE ASPECT OF TERM LIMITS IS THAT REALLY GOOD OFFICIALS ARE REMOVED FROM OFFICE. I LEARNED OF ANOTHER SERIOUS NEGATIVE ASPECT. ONE HARFORD SUFFERS FROM IT MAKES IT EASY FOR LOBBYISTS AND THOSE WHO HIDE BEHIND LLCS TO HAVE THEIR WAY. IT IS EASY FOR LOBBYISTS TO PEDDLE THEIR SELF INTERESTED AGENDAS TO NEW GREEN, NAIVE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. THE FREQUENT TURNOVER OF OFFICIALS WOULD LIKELY ENABLE WEAKER PUPPET OFFICIALS TO GET ELECTED AND DO IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE TO HARFORD DURING THEIR TERMS. LOBBYIST LAID THE GROUNDWORK AND TO CONTINUE TO SATISFY THEIR AGENDA AGENDAS VIA HARFORD OFFICIALS OF THE MONEY THAT IS REPORTED WE SEE CAMPAIGN DONATIONS FROM DEVELOPERS, THEIR LAWYERS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT RELATED BUSINESSES. FOR EXAMPLE , MR SWEENEY, ONE OF THE LAWYERS FOR THE ABINGDON BUSINESS PARK IN PERRIMAN PENINSULA. DEVELOPERS IS ONE SUCH LOBBYIST. I WAS TOLD BY A HARTFORD OFFICIAL HE HAD VERY EASY ACCESS TO MR GLASSMAN'S OFFICE. MR SWEENEY WAS MR PEN MONS CAMPAIGN MANAGER. I WAS PERPLEXED BY MR PENMAN IS ONE OF THE TERM LIMITS SUPPORTERS, BUT NOW I HAVE A

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GOOD EVENING AGAIN. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING. IT'S BEEN A LONG ONE. AH THIS TIME. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO BUILD 23-028. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT MY OPPOSITION IS NOT TO TERM LIMITS . BUT INSTEAD, THE EXACT SPECIFICATIONS LAID OUT IN THIS BILL. I WANT TO ASK THAT THIS BILL BE AMENDED FROM THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS TO THREE LIFETIME TERMS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ADDITIONAL THREE AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS MORE IN LINE WITH THE WISHES OF THE CITIZENS OF HARVARD COUNTY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THIS BILL FORWARD IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SERVE FOR THREE TERMS, TAKE ONE TERM OFF OR EVEN SERVING ADDITIONAL THREE TERMS AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THEN RETURN TO THEIR ORIGINAL ROLE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER? PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT EXACTLY PEOPLE WANT WHEN THEY'RE ASKING FOR TERM LIMITS AND AMEND THIS BILL APPROPRIATELY. WE WANT NEW IDEAS , NEW GENERATIONS AND A BETTER CHANCE FOR NEWCOMERS IN THIS COUNTY WITHOUT BUILT UP WAR CHEST TO HAVE A FAIR SHOT AT THEIR TURN ON THE DIOCESE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, SIR. GOOD EVENING AGAIN . MY NAME IS ED HUBNER, FIVE AWAITS STRATFORD ROAD AND FALLSTON. AND I GUESS I'M STANDING BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR DINNER. WELL, I'LL BE QUICK. UM I'M OPPOSED TO 23 28. UM, MR GUTHRIE. YOUR COUNCILMAN FOR 12 YEARS. CORRECT YES, SIR. YOUR CONSTITUENTS DECIDED NOT TO ELECT YOU. YES. THEN EIGHT YEARS LATER, THEY DECIDED TO ELECT YOU. YES AMERICA A GREAT COUNTRY . GREAT OKAY, GOD BLESS YOUR FIRST TERM. TONY G. THIS IS YOUR SECOND. MR HUBNER. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT GOING TO RESPOND TO YOU. IT'S YOUR SECOND TERM.

PAT I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR SECOND TERM AS PRESIDENT. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS THEIR FIRST TERM, SO I DON'T SEE WHERE THIS CAREER POLITICIAN THAT THIS BILL. TRYING TO PROTECT US FROM IS I MEAN, I THINK THE COUNTY HAS DONE ITS JOB. IT'S ELECTED NEW BLOOD WHEN IT NEEDED TO. IT'S BROUGHT BACK PEOPLE WHEN IT FELT IT NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE. UM, I AM. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON THAT I THINK REPRESENTS ME, AND I DON'T LIKE LAWS LIKE THIS. IT SAYS I CAN'T VOTE FOR THE PERSON THAT I WANT.

BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY SERVED TWO TERMS OR THREE TERMS. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THE UNITED STATES. THIS IS THE HARFORD COUNTY COUNCIL. UM AND I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED. THAT WHEN WE START TERM, LIMITING PEOPLE, WE INCREASE THE INFLUENCE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS. TO DETERMINE WHO WE GET TO VOTE FOR AND DON'T GET TO VOTE FOR AND WE INCREASE THE INFLUENCE OF THE STAFF. THAT STAYS AND JUST GET THROUGH CYCLE BY COUNSELING THE COUNCILMAN TO COUNSEL HIM, SO I HAVE AN HONEST CONCERN.

THIS BILL, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NUMEROUS SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT

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