Oct 10, 2023 County Council

[a. Resolution 037-23 (Master Water and Sewer Plan Update Fall 2023]

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GOOD EVENING CHAIR CAUSED ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION. 0 37-23, MASTER WATER AND SEWER PLANT UPDATE FOR 2023. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. GOOD EVENING , MR PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. MARIN C. RICHARDSON JR AND HALF. UM, ORGANIC GOVERNMENT. UM WITH US TODAY, I BRING YOU KRISTOFF. CHRIS DOMBECK, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER WITH OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, DIVISION OF ORDER AND SORE. ALSO HAVE BILL BETTON OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, WATER AND SORE AND DAVE BURKE, OUR CHIEF FROM MOTOR AND SORE AND THEY'LL BE HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THE BILL . I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE A FOLDER, AND THERE'S ALSO A POWER POINT. NOBODY WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THE FIRST SECTION OF REVISIONS IS TABLES AND GRIDS. PROVISION NUMBER ONE AND TWO ARE LOCATED IN FALLSTON FRONTING HARFORD ROAD, JUST SOUTHWEST OF CONNOLLY ROAD. AND INGRID A FOUR OF THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA MAPS. PROVISION ONE IS SHOWN IN YELLOW CONSISTS OF PARCELS 1, 34, 1, 35 AND 5 52 HAS SHOWN ON TAX MAP. 55 THESE ARE THREE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED R TWO AND EACH HAS AN INDIVIDUAL EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. THERE IS AN EXISTING SUPERMAN LOCATED ON THE SOUTH. ALONG THE REAR OF THE PERSON OF THREE PARCELS. WHICH PROVIDES DIRECT ACCESS TO PUBLIC SEWER. THEREFORE THE ACTION IS TO MOVE REVISION ONE FROM THE SEWER SIX CATEGORY INTO THE SEWER THREE CATEGORY. REVISION TWO IS SHOWN IN GREEN IS JUST NORTHEAST OF REVISION ONE AND CONSISTS OF PARCELS 1 32 AND 1 33. PARCEL 1 33 WAS PREVIOUSLY SUBDIVIDED INTO LOTS ONE AND TWO. LIKE THE PREVIOUS REVISION. THESE ARE THREE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES OWNED ARE TOO AND HAVE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND EXTENSION OF PUBLIC SEWER FROM THE EXISTING MAIN, LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF REVISION . ONE WOULD ALLOW THE THREE PARCELS DIRECT ACCESS TO DIRECT ACCESS TO PUBLIC SEWER. BECAUSE AN EXTENSION IS REQUIRED. WE ARE REQUESTING A SERVICE CATEGORY CHANGE FROM THE SEWER SIX TO THE SEWER FIVE CATEGORY. REVISION THREE IS LOCATED IN BEL AIR, AND AS A LONG WARS MILL ROAD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM SOUTHAMPTON MIDDLE SCHOOL AND EXTENDS TO SOUTHAMPTON ROAD. LUKE CREATED LOCATED IN GRID BE TWO OF THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA MAPS AND TAX MAP. 41 CONSISTS OF PARCEL 200 WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE BOYAR PROPERTY. THE CREEK SIDE SUBDIVISION IS OWNED ARE TOO AND HAS A PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL FOR 135 TOWNHOUSE UNITS FOR THE ELDERLY. THIS PROPERTY WAS REQUESTED TO BE MOVED FROM THE WATER AND SEWER FIVE CATEGORY INTO THE WATER AND SEWER THREE CATEGORY. CAN I CAN I ANSWER A QUESTION AT THIS POINT OR WAIT TILL THEY'RE DONE. LET'S WAIT TILL THEY'RE DONE, PLEASE. IF I COULD HAVE YOU REMAIN ON THAT PAGE FOR ONE SECOND AND DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LOWER HALF OF THE TOP PAGE. THE NEXT SECTION IS GOING TO BE REVISED AS CHAPTER THREE SECTION 3.13 ENTITLED PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH WAS REVISED TO ADD THE DESCRIPTION FOR THE APPROVED BEACHSIDE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. DESCRIPTION IS AS FOLLOWS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MORSE MILL ROAD AND THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTHAMPTON ROAD NORTHEAST OF THE TOWN OF BEL AIR. THE 58.6 ACRES SITE IS SHOWN ON GRID BE TOO IN HIS OWN ARE TOO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES 105 35 TOWNHOUSE UNITS FOR THE ELDERLY , WHICH WILL CREATE A WATER DEMAND OF 23,625 GALLONS PER DAY , AND THE PROJECTED WASTEWATER FLOWED FROM THE DEVELOPMENT IS 30,375 GALLONS PER DAY. SECTION 3.15 TABLE. 3-1 PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS WAS REVISED TO INCLUDE THE NEW CREEK SIDE SUBDIVISION SUBDIVISION AND TO ADJUST UNITS FOR SIX EXISTING PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAD APPROVED PROVIDES PRIMARY PLANS OR THE UNITS HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO PUBLIC UTILITIES. THE SECOND PAGE SHOWS THE SUMMATION OF THE NEW AND ADJUSTED UNITS. THE LAST PAGE OF TABLE 3-1 IS SEEN ON THE SLIDE SHOWS THE REVISIONS TO THE SUMMARY OF THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIAL ZONED UNITS WITH APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLANS WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. AS YOU CAN SEE THE NET CHANGE IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS WAS IN ADDITION OF 108 UNITS WITH 3179 UNITS REMAINING. THERE IS ALSO A

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THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU.

[b. Bill 23-029 (Tax Credit-Nonprofit Swim Clubs)]

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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[4. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS]

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. UM JUNE OF THIS PAST YEAR, I GOT A CRASH COURSE IN BREAST CANCER. UM IT'S VERY AGGRESSIVE AND WOMEN REALLY NEED TO GO FOR THEIR MAMMOGRAMS. AND EVEN MORE SO, LADIES. IF YOU HAVE ANY HISTORY, WHATEVER GO FOR BREAST, EMERY PUSHED THE DOCTOR FOR A BREAST MEMORY. THAT IS THE WAY TO REALLY, REALLY FIND THESE ALONG WITH MAMMOGRAPHY EASE. UM ALSO, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO DONATE MONEY. TWO ORGANIZATIONS , YOU KNOW BREAST CANCER, PARTICULARLY THIS MONTH. UM, PLEASE KEEP MINDFUL THAT WE NEED A CURE. UM I HAVE STAGE FOUR CANCER. I NEED A CURE. SO WHEN YOU DONATE YOUR MONEY, PLEASE DONATED TO RESEARCH OKAY TO RESEARCH. UM DON'T IGNORE STAGE FOUR, PLEASE. AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR. STACY. YOU'RE GONNA SAY, SIR. HI STACEY ROBERT ON THE CHAIR OF THE WOMEN'S COMMISSION FOR HARTFORD COUNTY. AND THIS IS BONNIE MIRANDA, UM, ON OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WHO WAS A FRIEND OF DARLENE'S, AND I APPRECIATE HER BEING HERE TONIGHT. I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THERE ARE 32 THOUSANDS CASE CASES RIGHT NOW IN MARYLAND OF ACTIVE CANCER PATIENTS WITH BREAST CANCER BEING THE NUMBER ONE AND OF THAT 1% CAN ACTUALLY BE MEN. BUT RIGHT HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NIGHT PARTICIPATE MEDICAL CENTER AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT PROVIDES FREE SCREENING FOR WOMEN WHO QUALIFY, SO I ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR HALF HARPER COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY OR THE INSURANCE, PLEASE CONTACT OUR HEART HEALTH DEPARTMENT. OR A PROTESTED PEAK AND THEY CAN AND THEY MIGHT. HOPEFULLY THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR THAT VERY IMPORTANT SCREENING, AND I WANT TO GET APPRECIATE AND DEFINITELY THANK DARLENE FOR BEING THE FACE OF A WARRIOR HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. THANK YOU, JESSICA. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JESS.

GENDER NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS. WE HAVE NONE. SIX SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE DONE. SEVEN APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS. WE HAVE NONE. MR JAN GIORDANO, PLEASE READ BILL

[9. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS]

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PUBLIC HEARINGS. PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 14TH AT 7 15 IN THE EAST CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. OKAY? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE OUT OF THE WAY. YEAH NEXT, PLEASE READ AMENDMENTS, ONE

[10. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]

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QUOTATION MARK TRUCK. COMMA AIRPLANE QUOTATION MARKS AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATION TRUCK.

AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. ON PAGE THREE COMMA AFTER LYING 12 COM INSERT QUOTATIONS LOADING ZONE LOCATIONS, DESIGN FOR THE LOADING AND UNLOADING OF FREIGHT PERIOD. LOADING DOCKS ARE STRUCTURES, WHICH ALLOW A TRUCK TO LOAD OR UNLOAD DIRECTLY FROM THE BED OF THE TRUCK QUOTATION.

AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE ON PAGE FOUR STRIKE BEGINNING WITH QUOTATION MANUFACTURING IN LINE 10 DOWN THROUGH IN QUOTATION, WHICH IN LINE 11 AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION MANUFACTURING COMMA PRODUCTION. HANDLING COMMA CONSULATE COUNCIL CONSOLIDATION , COMMA DISTRIBUTION, COMMENT AND OR WAREHOUSING COMMA OR WHERE ORDER PROCESSING OCCURS COMMA THAT MAY INCLUDE LARGE AREAS OF ANOTHER. ENCLOSED STORAGE AND FULFILLMENT SPACE PERIOD. THESE USES QUOTATION MARKS. AND THEN SIX ON PAGE FOUR AND LINE 13 STRIKE. UM IN. BRACKETS BRACKETS PRODUCED, STORED AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION MARKS PRODUCED COMMA HANDLED COMIC CONSOLIDATED COMMENT.

PACKAGE COMMENT DISTRIBUTED DISTRIBUTED FROM QUOTATION MARKS AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN ON PAGE FOUR. AFTER LINE 19 INSERT. BRACKETS FIVE MODIFICATION OF HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS BRACKET JUST 55 MODIFICATION OF HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT MAY BE EXCEEDED IN SIDE AND REAR YARDS. ARE INCREASED IN WIDTH AND DEPTH BY ONE. THROUGH IT. ONE IN BRACKETS, BRACKETS TWO ADDITIONAL FOOT AND BRACKETS , FEET FOR EVERY 1 FT OF EXCESS SITE. AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT ON ON PAGE FIVE IN LINE TO STRIKE IN BRACKETS, A AND THEN AT NUMBER NINE BRACKETS. ROSES? YEAH. PARENTHESES OKAY, PARENTHESES. AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE PAGE FIVE IN LINE THREE STRIKE IN QUOTATION MARKS FOR 42 FT. AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION MARKS. 36 FT IN THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CI DISTRICT, AND 40 FT IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALLY AND GENERAL INDUSTRIAL GI DISTRICTS IN QUOTATION MARKS. AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 ON PAGE FIVE AND LINE FIVE STRIKE. IN PARENTHESES, 40% AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATIONS, QUOTATIONS. 40% SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATIONS 55.

AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 ON PAGE FIVE IN LINE SEVEN STRIKE. AND. PARENTHESES QUOTATION QUOTATIONS , 60% AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATIONS 85. AND THEN AT NUMBER 12 ON PAGE FIVE. AFTER LYING A INSERT IN BRACKETS. FRANCIS IS FOR BUILDINGS SHALL BE DESIGNED SOLAR READING OR TO INCLUDE SOLAR RAYS AND SOLAR PANEL OR GROUND ROOFTOP INSTALLATIONS. ALL BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES SHALL BE LEAD SILVER OR HIGHER OR COMPLY WITH A COMPARABLE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM AT THE SAME STANDARD OR HIGHER AMENDMENT NUMBER. 13 ON PAGE NINE IN LINE NINE STRIKE AND PAY ON PAGE FIVE IN LINE NINE. STRIKE FOR AND SUBSTITUTE NUMBER FIVE. AMENDMENT NUMBER 14 ON PAGE FIVE STRIKE AND ITS ENTIRETY LINE 14. AMENDMENT NUMBER 15 ON PAGE FIVE IN LINE 15 AND 17 STRIKE. AND QUOTATIONS , B AND QUOTATIONS SAY, RESPECTIVELY AND SUBSTITUTING IN QUOTATION, A AND IN QUOTATION BEING, RESPECTIVELY AND THEN IT NUMBER 16 ON PAGE SIX STRIKE BEGINNING WITH QUOTATION BEING IN LINE ONE DOWN THROUGH AND QUOTATION PROJECT IN LINE 13 AND THEN 33. AMENDMENT NUMBER 17 ON PAGE 10 IN LINES 15, 17 AND 23 AND EACH INSTANT AFTER AND PER INDIFFERENT AND PARENTHESES, TRUCK INSERT AND PARENTHESES AND OR TRAILER. AND THEN NUMBER 18 ON PAGE 11 IN LINE, 15 AFTER AND PARENTHESES, TRUCK INSERT AND PARENTHESES AND OR TRAILERS.

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THE PROVISIONS OF COUNCIL PARENTHESES. THE PROVISIONS OF COUNCIL BILL 23-26 SHALL NOT APPLY TO EITHER ANY PROJECT, WHICH HAS ACQUIRED A VESTED RIGHT THROUGH THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL COMMENCEMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT AND VISIBLE CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WAS COMMENCED IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE INTENTION TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS COMMENCED PURSUANT TO A VALIDLY ISSUED BUILDING PERMITS. OR ANY PROJECT , WHICH HAS RECEIVED SITE PLAN APPROVAL PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE BILL. THOSE PROJECTS SHALL REMAIN SUBJECT TO THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AT CRITICAL PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF COUNSEL BILL 23-26. AND PARENTHESES BE ANY DEVELOPMENT. THERE RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF COUNSEL BILL 23-26 IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE REQUIREMENTS CONTAINED THERE IN AND THOSE DEVELOPMENTS SHALL REMAIN SUBJECT TO THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. A POLITICAL TO THE TIME THE CERTIFICATE WAS ISSUED.

AND PARENTHESES SEE THE PROVISIONS OF COUNCIL BILL NUMBER 23-26 SHALL FURTHER NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USE, WHERE WAREHOUSING , DISTRIBUTION AND OR LOCAL DELIVERY IS AN ACCESSORY USED TO THE PRINCIPAL USE OF THE PROPERTY OR TO WHICH THE DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL PARK FOR THE PURPOSE OF COUNSEL BILL 23. 26 AND INDUSTRIAL PARK SHALL BE DEFINED AS MORE THAN FOUR CONTINUOUS LOTS LOCATED IN A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALLY OR GENERAL INDUSTRIAL G, I ZONING CLASSIFICATION AND THESE INCIDENCES THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF COUNSEL BILL 23-26 SHALL APPLY. IN PARENTHESES D SECTION 2 67-20. AND PARENTHESES DIG OF THE HARFORD COUNTY COACH. I'M NOT APPLIED TO ANY EXISTING ABUSE, WHICH, AS A RESULT OF COUNSEL, BILL 23-26 BECOMES A NONCONFORMING USE AMENDMENT NUMBER 20 ON PAGE 23 AND LINE 10 STRIKING AND QUOTATIONS, IMPROVEMENTS AND SOME IMPORTANT MINTS IMPROVEMENTS, IMPROVEMENTS AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION IMPROVEMENTS. AMENDMENT NUMBER, 21. ON PAGE 23 AND 9 12 STRIKE AND QUOTATIONS OPERATIONAL AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATIONS OPERATIONAL COMMA EXCEPT FOR ANY ROAD OR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED BY THE MARYLAND STATE HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. AMENDMENT NUMBER 22 ON PAGE 27 IN LINE 23 STRIKE AND QUOTATIONS. SECTION THREE AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION SECTION TWO. AMENDMENT NUMBER 23 ON PAGE 28 STRIKE BEGINNING WITH QUOTATION ATTACHMENT AND LINE ONE DOWN THROUGH AND QUOTATIONS CHART AND LINE THREE. AMENDMENT NUMBER 24 ON PAGE 28 AND A LINE 13 STRIKE AND QUOTATION SECTION FOUR AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION SECTION THREE AMENDMENT NUMBER 25 ON THE TITLE PAGE AND THE FIRST LINE AFTER IN QUOTATION CENTER INSERT QUOTATION FREAK. AMENDMENT NUMBER 26 ON THE TITLE PAGE AND A SECOND LINE AFTER IN QUOTATION TERMINAL INSERT QUOTATION LOADING ZONE AMENDMENT NUMBER 27 ON THE TITLE PAGE IN THE FIFTH LINE AFTER IN QUOTATION, AMENDED, INSERT AND QUOTATION TO REPEAL AND RE ENACT WITH AMENDMENTS SECTION 2 67. DASH 60 PARENTHESES C AND PARENTHESES FIVE MODIFICATION OF HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. AMENDMENT NUMBER 28 ON THE TITLE PAGE AND THE 12TH LINE STRIKE AND QUOTATION 19-20 COLD CALLING 19 COLON DASH 20 COLON 20. 19 COLON 20. AMENDMENT NUMBER 29 ON TITLE PAGE STRIKE BEGINNING WITH IN QUOTATION BY IN THE 12TH LINE DOWN THROUGH AND QUOTATION AND IN THE 14TH LINE AMENDMENT NUMBER, 30 ON THE TITLE PAGE.

23RD LINE STRIKE IN QUOTATION TO 67-16 SEEING PARENTHESES FOR PARENTHESES, A PARENTHESIS FOR AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION TO 67-60 C AND QUOTATION. FOR APPRENTICES, 14 AND IN PARENTHESES, FIVE. AMENDMENT NUMBER 31 ON PAGE ONE AFTER IN PARENTHESES, CENTER INSERT AND

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TRANSPORTATION COMMA, COMMUNICATION AND UTILITIES. AND BRACKETS. TCU FRANCIS FANTASIES, TCU. AMENDMENT NUMBER 37 ON THE TITLE PAGE AND THE 24TH LINE AFTER AND QUOTATIONS AMENDED, INSERT AND QUOTATION AND BY ADDING A GRANDFATHERING PROVISIONS. AMENDMENT NUMBER 38.

ON PAGE 15 AFTER LYING FOR INSERT AND QUOTATION NUMBER ONE DISTRIBUTION AND FREIGHT ACTIVITIES IN THE G I DISTRICT COMMA PROVIDED THAT ALL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS LISTED ABOVE ARE MET BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES IN EXCESS OF 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF OUR OVERALL SPACE. HER LOT AND EXCEEDING THE FOLLOW FOLLOWING INTENSITY OF USE PER LOT. CALLING A WEEKDAY DAILY TRIP GENERATION OF 1.46 TRIPS PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA. SLASH AND OR A PEAK HOUR TRIP GENERATION RATE OF 0.12 TRIPS PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA. COMMENT MAY ONLY BE LOCATED IN GI DISTRICTS AND ONLY BY SPECIAL EXCEPTION THE JOB. MAN WHO'S COLON? SO, UM . BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE. WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING THESE AMENDMENTS THIS EVENING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO UM, BRING AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH 38 UP FOR A VOTE. SO PRESIDENT MR GUTHRIE FOR AMENDMENT 38 VOTE ON SEPARATE YOU WANT TO SEPARATE 38 AMENDMENT 38. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? MR PRESIDENT? I'D LIKE TO SEPARATE NUMBER 12 AMENDMENT NUMBER 12. OKAY? SO MAY HAVE EMOTION TO MOVE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH 11. MOVED SECOND. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT.

MR GUTHRIE. IT'S BEEN MOVED TO APPROVE. YES. UM. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS. ONE THROUGH 11 IS RAIN DISCUSSION, MR BENNETT. UM, I MEAN, THESE WERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ONE THROUGH 11 RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL JUST SPEAK TO THE 1ST 38. UM IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH A LOT OF PREP. I KNOW FROM MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE SPECIFICALLY, BUT ALL OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES AND JUST BEING ABLE TO WRAP OUR HANDS AROUND THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO EACH AND EVERY DAY, IT'S NOT ALWAYS SEEN OR PHOTOGRAPHED, BUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS CAME FROM MY OFFICE.

SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS CAME FROM THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS CAME FROM CONVERSATIONS. YOU KNOW, LATER, WE'LL BE VOTING ON THE TRUCK AND TRAILER. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN G BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. UH MONTHS AGO AT THIS POINT AS A CONCERN, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT. SO ALL THIS WAS REALLY A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT IN CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE THAT WORK. NOT EVERYTHING. IS HOW I WOULD WANT IT ON MY OWN, BUT IT'S A SEVEN PERSON PROCESS AND I APPRECIATE THAT PROCESS. AND I DO THINK OVERALL. THESE AMENDMENTS GET US TO A BETTER PLACE THAN BEFORE THEY WERE INTRODUCED. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MS DICKSON, COLORADO. MR PRESIDENT

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MRS BOTH SADDLES, MR BENNETT. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND ZERO AND NEGATIVE AMENDMENTS 13 THROUGH 37. ARE HEREBY APPROVED. UM AMENDMENT NUMBER 12. UM MR RILEY, UM WAIT A MINUTE. 2ND MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE? COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE AND THEN THE NUMBER 12 SECONDS. OKAY TO APPROVE IT OR DISAPPROVE. PROVE IT. HE JUST MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THAT SECOND OKAY? OKAY? UM, MR RUBIO? NO. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR RILEY? I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF AMENDMENTS ARE BECOMING THROUGH TONIGHT. AND I THINK ADDING THIS, UH, SOLAR RAYS ON TOP OF THE ROOFS NOT ONLY WILL AGAIN. IT'S GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE WAREHOUSES FOR AS THE STRUCTURE IS CONCERNED, AND THE HEIGHT OF IT , BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT I THINK IT'S JUST IT'S OVERBEARING IN THE COST, AND SO I'M FULLY AGAINST AMENDMENT NUMBER 12. THANK YOU. MR GUTHRIE APPRECIATE JIM. THERE'S SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT YOU WEREN'T UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO ATTEND, BUT WE MET MYSELF AND TONY AND PAT WERE MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS AMENDMENT AND, UH, IN HIS OFFICE AND WE WERE CONCERNED. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT WOULD COST TO MAKE A BUILDING SOLAR READY? UH AND SO I TALKED TO AH . BESIDES OUR CONVERSATION, I TALKED TO THE HEAD OF TEST SPEAK , WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIG BUILDERS, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILDING THIS STUFF. AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE'S TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF IT. HE'S IN FACT ALL THE BUILDINGS HE BUILDS. HE ALREADY MAKES THEM SOLAR READY, SO WE ALSO TONY KNEW SOMEONE IN THIS BUSINESS. TONY PUT A CALL IN RIGHT AWAY TO A CONTRACTOR TO TRY TO GET A PRICE SO WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT IT COSTS TO MAKE A BUILDING SOLAR AT 2,250,000 SQUARE FEET. AND TONY CAN SPEAK ON IT IF HE WANTS THE CALL OR CALL BACK, AND, UH, WE FOUND OUT THAT ON A BUILDING 250,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH COSTS ABOUT $75 MILLION TO BUILD $100,000 TO MAKE IT SOLAR READY, SO WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS MUCH MONEY ON TOP OF A BUILDING AND THEY ARE. THE BUILDERS ARE IN FAVOR OF IT. SO THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THE BILL. I'M SORRY, JIM. BUT YOU MISSED SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AND COULDN'T COUNT. THERE'S ONLY THREE PEOPLE CAN BE . AND TONY IF YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT, MR JAN JORDANA, AS AS COUNCILMAN, GUTHRIE SAID, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING THE BUILDING SOLAR READING. DION MENTIONED THAT HE HAD TALKED TO SOME OF THE BUILDERS. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A COST OF A BUILDING, THAT'S 5 MILLION WE WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT WAS WHAT'S THE EXTRA COST TO MAKE THESE BUILDINGS? UM, THAT YOU CAN PUT SOLAR ON THEM DOWN THE ROOF, AND WHEN MY GUY CAME BACK BUILDER SAID, LOOK, IT'S LIKE 100,000. I MEAN, THAT'S A SMALL PERCENTAGE. DROP IN THE BUCKET WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY'RE DOING

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IT'S GOOD NIGHT. JIM I THINK IT'S JUST ANOTHER GOVERNMENT MANDATE OF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DECIDE TO PUT THE SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR THEY'LL DECIDE TO PUT THE POT SOLAR PANELS SO I AGREE WITH YOU. THANK YOU, MR PEMON. ANYONE ELSE? MR BENNETT? UM YOU KNOW, JUST TO CLARIFY THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT OF WAREHOUSES TO HAVE SOLAR PANELS. IT JUST REQUIRES THAT THEIR SOLAR READY , MEANING THAT THEY CAN HANDLE THE WEIGHT AND MATERIAL THAT IS INVOLVED IN PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON TOP OF A FACILITY. BUT THEN, IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM LAND PRESERVATION. COMMUNITIES IN HARTFORD COUNTY TO PROTECT OUR GREEN SPACE TO PROTECT HER EGGS SPACE FROM BEING USED FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS. WE MAKE THIS FLAT, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO ALL SUNSHINE, UH, ROOFTOPS AVAILABLE FOR SOLAR PROJECTS, AND IT KEEPS OUR FIELDS PRESERVED. UM SO THIS IS VERY POSITIVE FOR THE DISTRICT D COMMUNITY, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT RENEWABLE ENERGY LOOK AT HIS PRIME LAND TO PUT SOLAR PANELS ON. AND IT PROTECTS THAT LAND FROM BEING USED FOR THAT, BECAUSE INSTEAD WE CAN LOOK AT THIS LARGE SWATH OF WAREHOUSE AND FREIGHT TERMINAL FACILITIES AND SAY THAT'S WHERE OUR SOLAR PANELS BELONG. ALREADY CONSTRUCTED UPON LAND, SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S A TO ME AND NO ISSUE AMENDMENT. IT REALLY, UM FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, IT'S GREAT. UM BUT ALSO IT CAN HELP MAKE A POSITIVE USE OUT OF BUILDING SET A LOT OF US SEE IN A MORE NEGATIVE LIGHT. MR JAN JORDANA, UM ON BEHALF OF THE SOLAR AND PUTTING IT ON A BUILDING. TO ME. IT'S ALSO THE SAME THING AS PUTTING SOLAR ON THE MIDDLE OF A FOREIGN FIELD.

AND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO THE HABITAT TO THE BIRDS TO THE TO EVERYTHING? WHERE YOU'VE NOW GOT THIS? YOU KNOW, GENERATION OF LIGHT AND HEAT THAT COMES OFF OF THESE SOLAR PANELS AS WELL.

UM I KNOW WE ACTUALLY TURNED DOWN LAST LAST COUNCIL THAT WAS UP HERE SOLAR PANELS OUT ON THE FARM, AND IT GOT OVERTURNED BY THE I GUESS. UH, WHAT PERMISSION WAS THAT? THEY OVERTURNED THE FORM AND THEY PUT SERVICE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION. SO I THINK I HAVE TWO CONCERNS. YOU KNOW, ALSO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO I'M NOT SURE I'M SO CRAZY ABOUT PUTTING SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN YOU KNOW, DO THE BIRDS COME FLOCKING TO THAT? AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT? YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT 250,000 SQUARE FEET, AND YOU GOT THREE BUILDINGS AND YOU'VE GOT ALL SOLAR ON THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT DOES THAT DO TODAY AREA, TOO, WITH HEAT AND WITH WITH TREES WITH EVERYTHING, SO I'M NOT REALLY 100% SOLD ON PUTTING SOLAR ON TOP OF BUILDINGS, EITHER. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. MR RILEY AGAIN.

YOU'RE SAYING TO THE BUILDER JUST LIKE IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT, YOU'RE FORCING A RESIDENT PUT SOLAR ON THEIR PROPERTY. TO ME. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS AGAIN. IT'S AN OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT AND AGAIN IF I HAD THE MONEY, AND NOW A CNF, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD $100,000 ON TOP OF A WAREHOUSE. BUT TO ME, IT'S JUST TOTALLY RIDICULOUS . YOU MIGHT NOT PUT SOLAR ON BUT YOU'RE TELLING THEM THEY GOT TO PUT THE STRUCTURE IN SO THAT IN CASE THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN. UM AGAIN. WE GOT A LOT OF AMENDMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP. THAT'S COSTING THE BUILDERS A LOT OF MONEY. I JUST THINK THIS IS JUST, UH, DISTRICT SUCH AN OVERREACH AS FAR AS GOVERNMENT CONCERNED, AND I WOULD HOPE EVERYBODY ON THIS DAY, AS WOULD SAY, LEAVE IT UP TO THE BUILDER THAT IF THEY WANT TO PUT SOLAR THEY CAN THEN PUT THE STRUCTURE AND TO DO THAT. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. MR GUTHRIE AND AGAIN THE CONTRACTORS ARE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY. AND THEY SAID IN ALL THEIR BUILDINGS, PARTICULARLY THE ONE CONTRACTOR. ALSO THEY SAY THAT TO DO IT AFTER YOU BUILD THE BUILDING, THE COST GOES FIVE TIMES HIGHER. SO THAT'S THE IDEA TO PUT IT ON BEFORE IT DOESN'T MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING. YOU KNOW IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT SOLAR ON AFTERWARDS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IT PREPARES IT, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US AND FOR OUR ON TOP OF THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S ON THE GROUNDS. IT'S ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BOTHER ANY ANIMALS OR ANYTHING AT THE

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THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO. MAKE THE MOTION ON NUMBER 38 TO APPROVE. NO, SIR. WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA DO, OKAY, I MAKE A MOTION ON 38. TO NOT APPROVE THAT'S BACKWARDS. IT'S BACKWARDS TO STEP IN, BUT HE'S RIGHT. PREFERS MOTIONS BE STATED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. AH FOR INSTANCE, YOU MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OTHER SECOND AND THEN EVERYBODY COULD VOTE AGAINST IT IN MOTION TO DISAPPROVE, ALRIGHT? MAY HAVE EMOTION. I MOVED TO APPROVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 38. THANK YOU MAY HAVE A SECOND. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? AMENDMENT 38 FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. MR JAN GIORDANO. PLEASE READ IN AMENDMENTS. 13 EXCUSE ME, AMENDMENT 39. AMENDMENT NUMBER 39. ON PAGE FOUR AND LYING 23 AFTER IN QUOTATION THAT INSERT QUOTATION THEY SHALL NOT EXCEED THE FOLLOWING INTENSITY OF USE PER LOT. CALLING A WEEKDAY DAILY TRIP RATE OF 1.46 TRIPS PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA, COMMA AND OR. A PEAK HOUR TRIP GENERATION RATE OF 0.12 TRIPS PER 1000 SQUARE FEET. GROSS FLOOR AREA AND THAT QUOTATION. THANK YOU. MAY HAVE EMOTION.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENT 39 2ND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MR BENNETT. I WAS IN SECOND AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WASN'T ME, PAT. TONY, I'M SORRY. GOT IT. DURING DISCUSSION AGAIN, MR BENNETT. I MEAN, THIS INTENSITY OF USE PEACE AND THE IMPACT OF THE DAILY TRIPS AND THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS COMING IN AND OUT OF THESE FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY AT THEIR PEAK HOURS.

UM HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES BROUGHT UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE PAST YEAR PLUS GOING ON TWO YEARS. UM AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE BILL. THIS LANGUAGE HAS BEEN AND EVERY OTHER VERSION OF THE BILL THAT'S BEEN WRITTEN AND SENT TO US VIA MEMO OR INFORMALLY PASSED AROUND UP UNTIL THIS FINAL VERSION OF THE BILL IN WHICH THE INTENSITY OF USE PIECE WAS REMOVED. TO ME. IT'S BEEN NON CONTROVERSIAL AMONGST THOSE OF US WHO SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION UP UNTIL NOW. UM AND IN ADDRESSING, UM. THAT THERE'S A CONVERSATION IN THE PLANNING PROCESS ABOUT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT CAN BE ESTIMATED TO COME IN ON THESE FACILITIES.

YOU KNOW, THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT ABOUT ANYBODY STANDING OUTSIDE OF EACH WAREHOUSE OF A CLICKER, COUNTING THE TRUCKS THAT COME IN AND OUT, BUT IT'S ABOUT HAVING PURPOSEFUL PLANNING DIALOGUES BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE, PROPOSING A PROJECT ON HOW MANY VEHICLES THEY EXPECT TO

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QUOTATION BEING AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION D. AMENDMENT NUMBER 50 ON PAGE SIX IN LINE FOUR. STRIKE NUMBER FIVE AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION BE. AMENDMENT NUMBER 51 ON PAGE SIX IN LINE FIVE STRIKE IN QUOTATION A AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION ONE AND IN THE SAME LINE STRIKE ALL HYPHENS. AMENDMENT NUMBER 52 ON PAGE SIX AND LINES 9 10 IN THE LINES NINE AND 10 STRIKE ALL HYPHENS AMENDMENT NUMBER 53 ON PAGE SIX AND LINE 14 STRIKE AND QUOTATION BEING AND SUBSTITUTE.

QUOTATION, TOO. AMENDMENT NUMBER 54 ON PAGE SIX IN LINE 19 STRIKE AND QUOTATION C AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION THREE AND THEN NUMBER 55 ON PAGE SEVEN. LINE THREE STRIKE IN QUOTATION D AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 56 ON PAGE SEVEN AND LINE SEVEN STRIKE. IN QUOTATION E AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATION. FIVE AMENDMENT NUMBER 57 ON PAGE SEVEN AND LINE 10 STRIKE IN QUOTATION F AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION SIX. AND THEN IT NUMBER 58 ON PAGE SEVEN.

AND 9 11 STRIKE IN QUOTATION FIVE AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION. SEE AMENDMENT NUMBER 59 ON PAGE

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STRIKES IN QUOTATION THREE. AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION. SEE AMENDMENT NUMBER 67 ON PAGE EIGHT AND LINE SEVEN. STRIKE IN QUOTATION FOR AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION D. AMENDMENT NUMBER 68 ON PAGE EIGHT IN LINE NINE. STRIKE IN QUOTATION FIVE AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION E AMENDMENT NUMBER 69 ON PAGE EIGHT IN LINE 19 STRIKE. IN QUOTATION C AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION C AND THEN QUOTATIONS. SIX. STRIKE IN QUOTATION SIX AND SUBSTITUTE SEE THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. YEP. OKAY.

AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN ON PAGE EIGHT. ONLINE AMENDMENT NUMBER 70 ON PAGE EIGHT AND LINE 20 STRIKE IN QUOTATION A AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION ONE AND THEN AT NUMBER 71 ON PAGE NINE IN LINE THREE. STRIKE IN QUOTATION, BE AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION, TOO. AND THEN NUMBER 72 ON PAGE NINE IN LINE NINE. STRIKE IN QUOTATION C AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION THREE AMENDMENT NUMBER 73. ON PAGE NINE IN LINE 11 STRIKE IN QUOTATION D AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION FOUR. AMENDMENT NUMBER 74 ON PAGE NINE IN LINE 12 STRIKE. IN QUOTATION SEVEN AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION D AMENDMENT NUMBER 75 ON PAGE NINE IN LINE 13 STRIKE IN QUOTATION A AND SUBSTITUTING QUOTATION ONE. AND THEN NUMBER 76 ON PAGE NINE IN LINE 18. STRIKE IN QUOTATION BE AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION TO AND THEN NUMBER 77 ON PAGE NINE IN LINE 22 STRIKING QUOTATION C AND SUBSTITUTING QUOTATION THREE. AMENDMENT NUMBER 78 ON PAGE 10 IN LINE FOR STRIKING QUOTATION D AND SUBSTITUTE FOUR. AMENDMENT NUMBER 74 ON PAGE 10 IN LINE.

AMENDMENT NUMBER 79 UP PAGE 10 IN LINE NINE STRIKING QUOTATION AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION FIVE. AMENDMENT NUMBER 80 ON PAGE 10 AND 9 11 STRIKING QUOTATION ONE AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION. A AMENDMENT NUMBER 81 ON PAGE 10 IN LINE 15 STRIKE IN QUOTATION TO AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION BE AND THEN AT NUMBER 82 ON PAGE 10 IN LINE. 23 STRIKE IN QUOTATION THREE AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION. SEE AMENDMENT NUMBER 83 ON PAGE 11 IN LINE 12 STRIKE EQUITY IN LINE TO STRIKE IN QUOTATION FOR AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATION D AND THEN BUT NUMBER 84 ON PAGE 11 IN LINE FIVE. STRIKE IN QUOTATION A AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION ONE. AMENDMENT NUMBER 85. ON PAGE 11 IN LINE NINE. STRIKE IN QUOTATION BEING SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION TO AMENDMENT NUMBER 86 ON PAGE 11 IN LINE 12 STRIKE IN QUOTATION FIVE AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATION E. AND THEN AT NUMBER 87 ON PAGE 11 IN LINE. 15 STRIKE IN QUOTATION SEEN SUBSTITUTE SIX IN LINE 15 STRIKE AND QUOTATION SIX AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION F AND THEN IT NUMBER 88 ON PAGE 11 AND LINE 18 STRIKE IN QUOTATION F AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION SIX AND THEN THE NUMBER 89 ON PAGE 12 IN LINE TO STRIKE IN QUOTATION G AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION SEVEN. AMENDMENT NUMBER 90 ON PAGE 12 IN LINE EIGHT. STRIKE IN QUOTATION AGE AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION EIGHT AND THEN MAKE NUMBER 90. 91 ON PAGE 12 AND LINE 13 STRIKE IN QUOTATION I AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION NINE AMENDMENT NUMBER 92 ON PAGE 13 IN LINE TO STRIKE. IN QUOTATION J AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION 10 AMENDMENT NUMBER 93 ON PAGE 13 IN LINE NINE. STRIKE IN QUOTATION KANG AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION 11. AMENDMENT NUMBER 94 PAGE 13 AND LINE 18 STRIKE IN QUOTATION ONE AND SUBSTITUTE IN

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STRIKE IN QUOTATION DEVELOPMENT AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATION DEVELOPMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER.

102 ON PAGE 16 AND LINE 20 STRIKE IN QUOTATION, SUBSECTION AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION SUBSECTION. AMENDMENT NUMBER 103 ON PAGE 17 AND LINE WINE STRIKE AND QUOTATION, SUBSECTION AND SUBSTITUTE AND QUOTATIONS, SUBSECTION AMENDMENT NUMBER 104 ON PAGE 20 LINE THREE AFTER THE COMMA INSERT QUOTATION, A AND IN THE SAME LINE AFTER QUOTATION OR INSERT QUOTATION, A AMENDMENT NUMBER 105 ON PAGE 20 LINE SEVEN. STRIKE IN QUOTATION HAS AMENDMENT NUMBER 106 ON PAGE 20.

IN LINE 16 AFTER THE COMMA INSERT QUOTATION A AND IN THE SAME LINE AFTER IN QUOTATION OR INSERT IN QUOTATION, A AMENDMENT NUMBER 107 ON PAGE 28 IN LINE TO STRIKE AND QUOTATION FREIGHT TERMINAL AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION FREIGHT TERMINALS AND IN THE SAME LINE STRIKE IN QUOTATION FREIGHT TERMINAL AND SUBSTITUTE IN QUOTATION FREIGHT TERMINALS. AMENDMENT NUMBER 108 ON PAGE 28 IN LINE FOR AFTER THE WORD IN QUOTATION PROCESSING, INSERT COMMA. AND IN THE SAME LINE STRIKE, THE FIRST IN QUOTATION AND IN THE SAME LINE AFTER THE WORD IN QUOTATION DELIVERY, INSERT AND QUOTE AMENDMENT NUMBER 109 ON PAGE 28 AND LINE A STRIKE IN QUOTATION, WAREHOUSING AND SUBSTITUTE QUOTATION WAREHOUSING. AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 10 ON PAGE 28 AND LINE NINE AFTER THE WORD IN QUOTATION FEET, INSERT AN END QUOTE AND THEN NUMBER 1 11. ON PERMITTED USE CHART ONE AND FOOTER AT IN QUOTATION TO 67 ATTACHMENT, 19. COLIN 20 QUOTATION MARK. LAST BUT NOT LEAST AMENDMENT NUMBER. 1 12 ON PERMITTED USE CHART PAGE TWO IN FOOTER AT IN QUOTATION TO 67 ATTACHMENT. 19 COLON 21 IN QUOTATION MARKS. TAKE A BREAK. HERE. ALRIGHT SO AMENDMENTS 40 THROUGH 1 12. UM. MAY HAVE A MOTION COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MR PRESIDENT. MR PEPIN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SEPARATE, UH, AS A GROUP THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS 46 49, 1071 10 AND 1 11 GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN. REAL QUICK, PLEASE 46 49 1 OF 71 10 1 11. I GUESS I JUST NEED A REQUEST ON EMOTION. DO WE HAVE TO MAKE IT? I WILL VOTE ON A SEPARATELY. ARE YOU SAYING AS A GROUP AS A GROUP? OKAY? SO. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION ON AMENDMENTS 40 THROUGH 1 12, EXCLUDING 46 49, 1071, 10 AND 1 11. COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS 43. THROUGH 1 12 40 OR 40 40. YEAH. 40 THROUGH 1 12. WAS IT 40 THROUGH 42 43 42 40 THROUGH 1 12. OKAY. 43 1 12 46, 49, 1071 10 AND 1 11 EXCLUDING EXCLUDING 46, 49 1071 10 AND 1 11 2ND. SECOND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. SMOOTHING SECONDED TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS 40 THROUGH 1 12, EXCLUDING 46 49

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[11. CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS]

BECAUSE OF THE INADEQUATE BASIS FOR THIS LEGISLATION. WE ARE LEFT WITH A TERRIBLE PRODUCT.

THAT AGAIN. EVERYONE LOSES. THIS BILL WILL NOW PUT REQUIREMENT DEMANDS ON THE PROJECT THAT WILL REQUIRE MORE INTENSE AND IMPACT THE FULL PRODUCT I CAN TELL YOU I SAW TODAY A POSSIBLE FUTURE

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ROADS WILL NOT BE IMPROVED. THIS IS A BAD PRODUCT. BUT MEANWHILE YOU HAVE OVER 1 MILLION SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSING. THIS IS A TERRIBLE BILL. I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL TO VOTE. NO THANK YOU, MR PENMAN AND WANT ANYONE ELSE. MR BENNETT. YOU KNOW THIS LEGISLATION DOESN'T DO NEARLY ALL THAT I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD DO IN MODERNIZING OUR CODE WITH WHAT WE NOW KNOW ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE WAREHOUSING INDUSTRY. REALLY? DRIVEN BY E COMMERCE. BUT, UM. IT DOESN'T DO NEARLY ALL THAT THE LEGISLATION MY OFFICE PREPARED OVER THE SUMMER. IT'S A COMPROMISE. IT'S IMPERFECT. IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT'S NO SILVER BULLET FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL PROJECT ACROSS THE COUNTY WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE A SILVER BULLET. UM HOPE WAS TO MODERNIZE THE CODE. AND IF THAT'S SO HAPPENED TO IMPACT ANY PROJECTS , THAT'S THE NATURE OF SOMETIMES A MODERNIZING THE CODE. WHAT COUNCILMAN PENMAN HELD UP JUST NOW IS A HYPOTHETICAL PRINT OUT OF THE DESIGN PLAN THAT REALLY HAS NO REFLECTION ON ANYTHING ACTUAL OR TANGIBLE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING SCARY. SOME PEOPLE HELD UP AT FIVE O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON. AH AND TRYING TO CONVINCE THE COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND IN MY OPINION IF PEOPLE ARE RUSHING OVER HERE TO TRY AND SCARE US TO VOTE AGAINST THE BILL, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD SIGN THAT THE BILL DOES SOMETHING GOOD IF PEOPLE ARE RUSHING OVER TO SHOW US A BUNCH OF RECTANGLES ON A SHEET OF PAPER, SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE BILL, IMPERFECTIONS AND ALL WARTS AND ALL BECAUSE I LIKE STEPS OF PROGRESS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION . THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MR GUTHRIE? JUST A QUICK I KIND OF AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ON THIS. IT'S THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGHER BILLS, AND I IT'S MY 13TH YEAR ON THE COUNCIL, AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF TOUGH BILLS IN OUR TIME, BUT THAT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOUGHEST BILLS WE'VE EVER HAD BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE AND SO MANY SIDES OF SO MANY ISSUES ON THIS BILL, I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU. WE'VE ALL MET WITH THE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME , AND WE'VE HAD AMENDMENTS FLYING PAPERS FLYING. ARGUMENTS AND DISCUSSIONS AND JUST DISCUSSIONS. NO ARGUMENTS. AND, UH, SO IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THAT CAN BE DONE AT THIS POINT OF AND REMEMBER IF IT'S BILL PASSES, UM. YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING WE FIND SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD THAT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE AREA. AH THAT LET US KNOW. BECAUSE IF HE REPAIRS CAN BE AMENDED NOTHING'S INGROWN.

NOTHING'S CARVED IN GRANTED, YOU KNOW, UH FOREVER. SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING. YOU LET US KNOW.

AND WE'LL PUT AN AMENDMENT IN AND CHANGE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. MISSILES. UM YEAH, I GO BACK TO MY COMMENTS PREVIOUSLY MADE ABOUT THE PATTERN OF PIECEMEAL AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING CODE. IT IS TIME TO LOOK AT A COMPLETE CODE REVIEW AND REWRITE AND I URGED THE ADMINISTRATION TO BEGIN WORKING ON THAT PROCESS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. UM THIS BILL WILL AFFECT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TAX BASE AND JOB CREATION, WHICH DOES AFFECT ALL OF US. IT COULD BE LONG LASTING AND RESULTS IN THE CUTTING OF SERVICES AND TAX INCREASES WERE BOTH. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS SADDLES. MR. GINGER DANA. UM. THERE'S BEEN CHANGES IN THE IN THE ZONING CODES. THERE'S BEEN CHANGES IN THE BILLS. LOOK BACK IN 2008. THERE WERE SOME CHANGES IN THE B THREE, ALLOWING APARTMENTS. THERE'S BEEN CHANGES, UM TO VARIOUS BILLS ALONG THE IN THE PAST YEARS. UM I'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY, I GUESS BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I'VE GOT SOME FRIENDS THAT ARE VERY HIGH UP AND AMAZON JUST TO SAY AND WHAT? AMAZON IS LOOKING TO DO NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS AN AMAZON IS AMAZON IS LOOKING FOR THE 1.41 0.5 VERY LARGE WAREHOUSES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY ORDER AT 9 A.M.

DELIVERED BY 5 P.M. THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN DO THAT IS ECONOMICS OF SCALE HAVE THESE LARGE FACILITIES WHERE THEY CAN BE ABLE TO GO AND DRIVE WITHIN A 30 30 MILE RADIUS AND HAVE IT DELIVERED ON THAT ON THAT SIDE, SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO THIS, UH, IN METROPOLITAN AREAS WHERE

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SO JUST LIKE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I WAS ABLE TO AND THEY'RE STILL LOOKING IS THAT BOEING WAS LOOKING AT THE MANUFACTURING SITE IN HARTFORD COUNTY. UM THEY WANT SOMETHING CLOSE. THEY'VE GOT A FACILITY IN PHILADELPHIA. THEY WANT SOMETHING CLOSE TO THAT FACILITY. THAT IS ON THE 95 CORRIDOR. SO YOU KNOW THESE ARE THINGS THAT THAT I'VE FOUND THROUGH PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT ARE VERY HIGH UP AND THEY TOLD ME. HEY WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS. THIS IS YOU KNOW, AND I PROPOSE THAT YOU KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND BROUGHT THAT TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. HEY, LOOK, HERE'S THE PERSON TO CONTACT. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. SO UM , WE DON'T HAVE MUCH LAND LEFT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BEST USE POSSIBLE THAT LAND ON THE SAME TOKEN. I TALKED TO ALL MY COMMERCIAL CLIENTS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF THEM AND THEY ARE IN DIRE NEED OF WHERE HOUSING FROM 25,000 SQUARE FEET UP TO 202 150,000 SQUARE FEET THERE.

THERE'S PEOPLE LOOKING TO DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS. THEY CAN'T FIND THEM. THEY'VE SPLIT. THEY JUST RECENTLY SPLIT UP WAREHOUSING AND BELCAMP TO SMALLER UNITS. BECAUSE THEY HAD LARGER UNITS.

THEY COULDN'T SELL THEM. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW THE INDUSTRY IS NOW IS CHANGING. UM I THINK DURING COVID YOU HAD YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT WERE LOOKING TO BUY STUFF AND THEY WERE FULFILLMENT CENTERS AND EVERYTHING. NOW, THINGS ARE STARTING TO CHANGE BACK. UM YOU KNOW, AND THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. AND I THINK THINGS ARE GONNA CHANGE AGAIN. SOUND ANYWAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR CHANGER, DANIEL. UM AND JUST A FEW SHORT WEEKS. THIS BILL WOULD HAVE BEEN BEFORE US FOR TWO YEARS. AND UM, AS EVERYONE SAID, THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT PUT IN THIS LEGISLATION. BUT IF MY TIME ON THE COUNCIL HAS TAUGHT ME ANYTHING THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS NOT DONE, WE'LL BE REVISITING THIS AGAIN. I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT FAIRLY SOON. SO, UM IT IS. BASICALLY FINISHED FOR THIS EVENING. BUT I DO BELIEVE IT. IT BREATHES AND WE'LL HEAR. SEE IT AGAIN. SO WITH THAT, UM MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT. MR GUTHRIE. MR PENMAN? NO. MR JAN GIORDANO. MR RILEY. THIS IS BULL SADDLES. NO MR BENNETT. I. THEY'RE BEING FIVE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, TWO VOTES IN THE NEGATIVE. BUILD 23-0 26 AS AMENDED IS HEREBY APPROVED. AGENDA NUMBER 12 ENROLLMENT OF BILLS. BUILD 23

[12. ENROLLMENT OF BILLS]

[14. NEW BUSINESS]

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ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL THIS IS A NATIONALLY IN FOR THIS EVENING. SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE PRESIDENT AND MOVED TO APPROVE THE ORDER. AUDITORS REQUEST FOR AUDIT EXTENSION EXEMPTION REQUEST FISCAL YEAR 2023 SECONDS. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. IT'S BEEN MOVING, SECONDED. THE AUDITORS EXTENSION REQUEST. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MISS DIXON? MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR JAN GIORDANO. ALRIGHT RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO AND NEGATIVE, THE OTHERS REQUEST FOR ALL OF THE EXTENSION EXEMPTION REQUEST FISCAL YEAR, 2023 IS HEREBY APPROVED. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE INTO AGENDA

[17. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS]

THERE'S NO RECORD IN THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC DATABASE. IT WAS EXTENDED. THERE IS A NOTE IN THE PERMIT REQUEST FILE THAT THERE IS A BORDER OF APPEALS CASE ACTIVE ON THE SITE AND THAT I HOLD IS ACTIVE ON 30, AUGUST 2023 PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVED THE REQUEST FOR A PERMIT, COMMENTING DIRECTOR WAIVER APPROVED 29 AUGUST 2023. THIS IS THE DIRECTOR WHO, IN A PREVIOUS CAPACITY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION. TO OPERATE A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT WITHOUT ANY APPROACH AND LANDING PATH WHO HAD THE DARK MEETING STATED AIRPORT EXPANSION AND OPERATION IS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF BOARD OF APPEALS CASE 58 14 AND IS NOW APPARENTLY IGNORING THOSE CONDITIONS AND THE COUNTY CODE. I WONDER. IS THERE A REASON THE AIRPORTS ACTIVITIES ARE OUT OF THE PUBLIC VIEW AND KEPT AWAY FROM THE REVIEW BY THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. IS THERE SOMETHING TO HIDE? VERY CURIOUS . I WONDER WITH NO APPROVED SITE PLAN AND WITHOUT ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS APPROVAL, WHO AUTHORIZED THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. WHO AUTHORIZED THE EXTENSION OF RUNWAY 01 19. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT ANY OF THIS. WHAT IS DISTURBING IS THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IN HIS STAFF FOR APPARENTLY MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE BOARD OF APPEALS WITHOUT INPUT FROM THAT BODY. THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE BOARD OF APPEALS AS IT'S A BORDER AGENCY, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IF THE COUNTY COUNCIL ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS DOES NOT POLICE ITS DECISIONS ACTIONS AND CANNOT HOLD THEIR AUTHORITY. WHO IS LEFT TO DO SO, WHEREAS THE WHOLE FUNCTION BEEN DISMISSED BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS IRRELEVANT. MAYBE THERE'S

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAVE BEEN SENT TO YOU ARE THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS.

THIS IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. COULD YOU PLEASE PROVIDE AN ANSWER? MA'AM, GENTLEMEN. THIS IS ALL ABOUT YOU. IT'S NOT HISTORICAL. IT'S TODAY. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. DOUG SHAMBERG, 11 12 J DRIVES BEL AIR MARYLAND. 21014 THAT'S FALSENESS SCHOOL DISTRICT. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND FELLOW CITIZENS, UH, MISSED THE LAST FEW WEEKS. I WAS BUSY. WORKING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING ACTS. 2035 IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN RECEIVE. UM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK THE PAST FEW WEEKS WITHIN TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT BILLS. UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON, AND A LOT OF MY FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB COMING HERE SPEAKING BEFORE YOU ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, INCLUDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, TRAFFIC CONCERNS, SCHOOLS CONCERNS ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED YET. OR IS THIS STRAIN THAT IS PUTTING ON A WRECK PROGRAMS. UM I HAVE 34 KIDS ONCE NOW OUT OF THE WRECK PROGRAM IN HIGH SCHOOL, I GOT THREE. THEY'RE ALL INVOLVED IN TRAVEL BASKETBALL BASEBALL. SOCCER FOOTBALL, SO I STAY QUITE BUSY TRAVELING AROUND MARYLAND, NORTHERN VIRGINIA, PENNSYLVANIA, AND I GO TO THESE FIELDS AND I SEE WHAT HOWARD COUNTY GUNNERY HAS AS FAR AS THEIR BASEBALL FIELDS, SOCCER FIELDS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT OURS, OURS ARE JUST THEY'RE VERY SO FAR. TO SAY THE LEAST. SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN WITH IN ADDITION WITH THE INFLUX OF NEW RESIDENTS IS INTO COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY CHILDREN. THAT ARE COMING IN, BUT WE DON'T REINVEST INTO OUR FACILITY. WE HAVEN'T IN THE LAST SIX YEARS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE FALSE AND COMMUNITY. WE HAVE NO NEW BASEBALL FIELDS. NO NEW SOCCER FIELDS, NO NEW BASKETBALL FACILITIES. SO ARE. PROGRAMS ARE CONTINUALLY STRETCHED THIN. I AM THE FOSTER AND BASKETBALL COMMISSIONER. AND LAST YEAR WE HAD 539 BOYS REGISTERED AND 336 GIRLS, SO WE HAD 875 KIDS PLAYING BREAKFAST SKIT BALL, UM IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S A LOT OF KIDS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SCHOOLS LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS THEIR POPULATIONS. UM YOU KNOW, IT GOES BEYOND THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS IN ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT OUR GOVERNMENT PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THEY ALSO USE DIRECT PROGRAMS. UM THIS YEAR ALONE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 541 BOYS. THAT'S TWO MORE THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR, AND WE STILL HAVE A WEEK LEFT.

REGISTRATION I'VE HAD TO CLOSE TWO OF OUR AGE GROUPS, WHICH EACH YEAR I HAVE TO CLOSE AGE GROUPS EARLIER AND EARLIER EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FACILITY. USED WE USED FALSE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE CHANNEL WITH CENTER USE BENEFIT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, SOMETIMES WE GET THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND WE ALSO RENT PRIVATE GYMS IN THE AREA SO THAT WE CAN WHY'D YOU KNOW? DIRECT PROGRAM FOR THE KIDS? UM. IN AND TODAY I HAD TO TELL TWO MOMS. YOUR KIDS ON A WAITING LIST. SO WE HAVE KIDS THAT WANT TO PLAY BASKETBALL. THEY WANT TO PLAY OTHER SPORTS, BUT THEY CAN'T BECAUSE WE JUST SIMPLY FACILITIES. UM AND AS I SAID, EACH YEAR I SEE NEW KIDS INTO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS GREAT. IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, IT'S BRINGING DIVERSE GROUP OF KIDS.

I LOVE IT. IT'S GREAT. BUT EVERY YEAR WE GOT JUST TELL MORE AND MORE KIDS THAT THEY CAN'T PLAY.

UM SO I'M A LITTLE LONG WINDED HERE. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S TIME THAT WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR PLANS AND THEIR RIGHTS INSTEAD OF THE OVER DEVELOPERS. RIGHT UM, FALSE AND NEEDS THAT ATHLETIC FIELD HOUSE THAT WAS PROMISED. PLEASE BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO A CLOSER 2035. IT'S MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN RECEIVE. THANK YOU, SIR. DIANA SADOWSKI FOLLOWED BY CHUCK ME, ZAN. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. DIANA SADOWSKI 11 13 STRUM COULD DRIVE FALLSTON, MARYLAND. I WANT TO SAY THAT I CAN'T BE ANY MORE PROUDER OF MY FELLOW HARFORD COUNTY INS WITH THEIR IMPRESSION. IMPASSIONED COMMENTS AT THE OCTOBER 2ND MEETING HERE. BRAVO AND BRAVA. IT'S LIVING PROOF THAT ONE VOICE WHEN COMBINED, BECOMES A ROAR THAT CANNOT BE IGNORED. NOW I PRAY THAT EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE HEARD OUR VOICES. AND ALTHOUGH YES, ON THESE BILLS NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR COWARDICE BY VOTING, NO OR ABSTAINING. I COME NOW TO AN UNCOMFORTABLE ISSUE. I'VE ATTENDED NUMEROUS MEETINGS

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IN THE UPTICK BETWEEN CRIME AND APARTMENTS. I HONESTLY WISH I COULD HEAR THAT SAME PASSION REGARDING THE PRESERVATION OF OUR RURAL COMMUNITY IS SIMPLY NOT THERE. YOU SIR AND OTHERS ON THE COUNCIL ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH CONTINUING THE POLICIES AND AGENDA OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. AND IF NOT HALTED, HARFORD COUNTY WILL NO LONGER BE RECOGNIZABLE. WHAT WILL YOU DO, THEN? MOVE ON, I SUPPOSE PERHAPS WE'RE JUST A STEPPING STONE INTO SOMETHING ELSE POLITICALLY, BUT I GUESS YOUR POLITICAL HAND OR HAND DRILLERS HAVE A GRIP ON THAT AND YOU YOU, SIR. COULD BE A VERY VALUABLE ASSET TO YOUR DISTRICT . HOWEVER YOU'VE CHOSEN TO WALK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. SPEAKING AND WRITING TO YOU IS LIKE TALKING TO A BRICK WALL. YOUR CANNED RESPONSES ARE A JOKE. YOU SAID YOU WERE EXCITED THAT THE DEVELOPER REDUCED THE APARTMENTS FROM 100 TO 48. SIR, YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE SAYING NO, EVEN TO THAT. BUSINESS ZONES ARE FOR BUSINESSES, NOT RESIDENCES. HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE BLACK AND WHITE SIGNS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY OR HAVE THEY ALL DISAPPEARED? FROM WHERE? WHERE YOU LIVE? THAT'S FURTHER PROOF THAT YOU'RE OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE COMMUNITY YOU REPRESENT. EARLIER THIS YEAR , I SPOKE WITH STEPHANIE TAYLOR AT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT HARFORD COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A RECALL PROVISIONS AND THAT ONLY THE COUNCIL CAN REMOVE A COUNCIL MEMBER. MR VINCENTE. THERE IS A LOT OF VERY UNHAPPY CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE WHO FEEL THEY HAVE NO REPRESENTATION IN AARON PENMAN. MR VINCENTI, WILL YOU WORK WITH OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO HELP US OBTAIN THE REPRESENTATION WE TRULY NEED THANK YOU. MR TAOS SKI JUST BEFORE YOU WALK AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE. THE COUNCIL HAS NO AUTHORITY TO POLICE ITS MEMBERS. WELL, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND. I'M JUST SAYING THAT NOW, SO YOU UNDERSTAND? WE SENT A RESPONSE BACK TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. IT'S IN HIS CORNER NOW, MA'AM. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. AND EATING CHUTNEYS AND 18 12 FOR PEACE DRIVE. UM I'M OUT. I'M OUT. I'M NOT ABLE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUES THAT I WANTED TO TODAY, WHICH IS FINE, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK EVERY DAY. UM I DON'T GET THIS. DON'T GET TO HEAR THAT ENOUGH, I THINK AND APPRECIATE YOU. UM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE HARFORD LAND TRUST ATTENDED EVENT AND THEIR PARTY TO PRESERVE IN ELKRIDGE HARFORD HUNT CLUB ON SATURDAY. UM I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT THAT ORGANIZATION. THEY'VE DONE A LOT TO SAVE. UH THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF PROPERTY IN THIS COUNTY AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP. DOING MORE MORE OF, UM LAST YEAR FROM JULY 2022. AH TO SEPTEMBER 30TH 2023. THEY'RE PERMANENTLY PRESERVED 2638 ACRES IN HARFORD COUNTY. THOSE ARE LANDOWNERS WHO DECIDED TO PRESERVE THEIR LAND TO GIVE UP THE PROFITS STILL STILL RECEIVE SOME PROFITS, BUT GIVE UP THE BIG PROFITS. AND SAVE THEIR LAND FOR GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS. I KNOW THE COUNTY, HARFORD COUNTY HAS ALSO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM HARVARD LAND TRUST IN THE PYRAMID AREAS RECENTLY, UM FOR PARKS. UM, SO HARTFORD LAND TRUST IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT IS A MIDDLEMAN FOR A LOT OF THESE. UM, TRANSFERS. I KNOW JIM, YOU WERE THERE. JUST A GREAT EVENT UP THERE. UM. AND THEY HOPE TO SETTLE ON 1082 MORE ACRES THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. SO I URGE MORE LANDOWNERS TO CONSIDER PRESERVING THEIR PROPERTY AND REACH OUT TO HARVARD LAND TRUST TO DISCUSS ALL THE PROFITS YOU DO RECEIVE AND PRESERVING YOUR LAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. LEE MADDOX, FOLLOWED BY STACEY STONE. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MR PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I AM WRITING. I AM A SPEAKING HERE TONIGHT, UH, AS AN ACTIVELY INVOLVED RESIDENT OF HARFORD COUNTY, DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, TRANSPARENCY AND ETHICAL CONDUCT SURROUNDING COUNCILMAN PENDANTS, DUAL ROLES. RECENT EVENTS HAVE AMPLIFIED THESE CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY DURING THE MONDAY OCTOBER 2ND 2023 PUBLIC HEARING

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UM, THAT SAME. INCIDENT THAT BLOCKED ME FROM LEAVING WOULD HAVE ALSO BLOCKED IN THE AMBULANCE OR FIRE TRUCK SHOULD THE NEED B. I HAVE A YOUNG LADY THAT'S STAYING WITH ME. UM TELL HER APARTMENT'S READY NEXT WEEK . SHE HAS A HEART CONDITION IF SHE HAD HAD A CARDIAC INCIDENT HOW WAS AN AMBULANCE SUPPOSED TO GET TO ME? SO I URGE YOU AS A BODY. TO CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IMPAIRMENT. WE NEED THIS COUNCIL TO STAND STRONG WITH US TO GET IMPROVEMENTS, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. TO KEEP THESE TRUCKS OUT OF WHERE THEY DON'T BELONG AND ALLOW US TO COME AND GO FROM OUR HOMES IN A SAFE MANNER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. RYAN STEWART OSHINSKY, FOLLOWED BY JILLIAN MILLER. GOOD EVENING, SIR. MR KINSKY 3 19 MARINA AVENUE PYRAMID. UM I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO SAY TONIGHT I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT'S PUT FORTH THE EFFORT AND HARD WORK. TWO. HELP THE ZONING CODES MOVE ALONG IN THEIR CORRECT DIRECTION. UM I APPLAUD THOSE OF YOU THAT MET WITH NOT ONLY THAT THEY DEVELOPERS AND LANDOWNERS BUT ALSO TOOK THE TIME TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS. CONCERNS UM AND I WOULD ASSUME THE FIVE OF YOU THAT VOTED FOR THE BILL DID THAT AND THE TWO THAT DIDN'T DIDN'T UNDERSTAND CITIZEN CONCERNS. BUT WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS WHERE THE REASON YOU GUYS ARE UP THERE TO REPRESENT US. NOT PEOPLE THAT COME FROM OUT OF TOWN. PEOPLE THAT COME UP HERE WITH AND I THINK AARON SAID IT BEST WITH, UM ECONOMIC NUMBERS OR WHAT HAVE YOU I KNOW YOU KEEP QUESTIONING

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MY EX FIANCE THROUGH THAT. I THINK YOU NEED TO STOP RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING LOVE IT. GOOD LORD. DIGNITY TO SAY HIS EX WIFE. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, JILLIAN MILLER FOR A WEEK. CRISFIELD DRIVE. ABINGDON, MARYLAND. UM I'M HERE TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY EXTREME DISAPPOINTMENT IN HARFORD COUNTY POLITICAL OFFICIALS SPECIFICALLY, COUNCILMAN PENMAN AND RILEY. WHO HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION TO REVERSE THE DECISION , WHICH CHANGED THE NAMES OF OLD POST ELEMENTARY IN HARTFORD ACADEMY. WOULD YOU WANT YOUR CHILD TO ATTEND A SCHOOL NAMED AFTER TED BUNDY? DOUBTFUL. I MEAN, YES, HE IS A PART OF HISTORY AND WE CAN STILL TEACH ABOUT HIM. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN OUR CHILDREN HAVE TO GLORIFY HIM BY ATTENDING A SCHOOL NAMED AFTER HIM. THE CURRICULUM HASN'T CHANGED TO REMOVE THE HISTORY OF JOHN ARCHER OR WILLIAM PEKKA. BUT WE SHOULD BE LEARNING FROM HISTORY AND MOVING FORWARD BY MAKING BETTER DECISIONS. THIS NAME. CHANGE IS A LEARNING STEP FOR US ALL AND SHOULD BE VIEWED AS SUCH. DID YOU KNOW THAT 76% OF THE STUDENT POPULATION AT OLD POST ELEMENTARY ARE MINORITY CHILDREN? DO YOU THINK THAT COMMUNITY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THEIR CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL, NAMED AFTER A SLAVE OWNER WHO OWNED OVER 100 SLEEVES? IT SEEMS QUESTIONABLE THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS OTHER THAN THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNTY EXECUTIVES, POLICE OFFICIALS, STATE'S ATTORNEY'S SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO EXERT CONTROL OVER AN ENTITY THAT WAS RULED SEPARATE BY THE MARYLAND SUPREME COURT. DO ANY OF YOU EVEN HAVE ANY TIES TO EITHER OF THOSE COMMUNITIES. PLEASE DO NOT USE OUR CHILDREN AS POLITICAL CHESS PIECES. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE ORIGINAL DECISION WAS BEING MADE TO CHANGE THE NAMES? I REMEMBER THE FIASCO BECAUSE I WAS THERE. I DON'T RECALL SEEING YOU ALL. WHEN IT WAS TIME TO EXPRESS YOUR DISCONTENT. ARE YOU ONLY INTERESTED WHEN YOU GET TO BE IN THE POLITICAL SPOTLIGHT? PLEASE ASK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH THOSE SCHOOLS FOR INPUT, NOT MOMS FOR LIBERTY AND FRIENDS , WHO ARE JUST LOOKING FOR THEIR NEXT EXCITING TOPIC IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO DISMANTLE THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM SO THAT OUR GOVERNMENT CAN PAY FOR THEM TO INDOCTRINATE THEIR CHILDREN. THE NIGHT THE NAME CHANGES WERE DECIDED. BOTH PRINCIPLES CALLED INTO THE BOARD OF ED MEETING AND CHOSE THEIR NEW SCHOOL NAMES FROM THE NAMES THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED WHEN THE TOPIC WAS AT HAND. THESE PRINCIPLES AND THEIR SCHOOL COMMUNITIES WERE SO EXCITED AFTER COMPLETING SURVEYS AND SHARING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CHANGES, SO IT SEEMS THIS IS A GOOD DECISION. ON THAT NIGHT, THE BOARD OF ED DECIDED AT THAT POINT TO NO LONGER CHOOSE PEOPLE PEOPLE'S NAMES FOR SCHOOLS, SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS ISSUE GOING FORWARD. THIS IS SENSIBLE AND THE RIGHT WAY TO LEARN FROM HISTORY. SO IN CONCLUSION GOING FORWARD BEFORE YOU ALL SIGNED PETITIONS. I EXPECT THAT YOU DO BETTER RESEARCH AND NOT BE ONE SIDED AND BLINDED BY YOUR OWN PERSONAL PREJUDICES. SOME OF YOU UP THERE KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE PERSECUTED. AND YET YOU ARE ADVOCATING TO LEAVE A SCHOOL NAME IN PLACE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ALL OF OUR CHILDREN TO POSSIBLY FEEL THAT WAY. IF IT'S NOT A GOOD FEELING FOR YOU IMAGINE HOW ARE YOUTH WHO ARE STILL LEARNING APPROPRIATE EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT FIELD? THANK YOU, MA'AM. THE LAST SPEAKER THIS EVENING, BILL MONTAIGNE, ERI HE'S DONE. HE'S NOT GOING TO SPEAK. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. THANK

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IT'S IMPORTANT. BEYOND THAT, I DO JUST WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO OUR VOTES ON THE AMENDMENTS. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SPOKE TO EARLIER. I DIDN'T EXPECT EVERYTHING THE PAST. ANYTHING THAT WE DID GET PAST WAS A WIN. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE WIN I WANTED, BUT WHEN WE GOT, UM I DO JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO AMENDMENT 39, WHICH FAILED WITH A 34 VOTE. UM YOU KNOW, I KNEW AND EXPECTED THAT OUR COUNCILMAN PENMAN COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VINCE ANY AND COUNCILWOMAN BOIL SADDLES WOULD VOTE NO ON AMENDMENT 39 THAT I WAS HOPEFUL THAT I WOULD HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM A C AND D ALONG WITH ME TO GET A 43 VOTE. I HAVE HAD PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE THREE MEMBERS OF OUR COUNCIL, UM AND KNEW FOR SURE THAT I HAD THE SUPPORT OF COUNCILMAN, UM OF A COUNCILMAN G AND COUNCILMAN RILEY. UM THIS AFTERNOON, I WENT TO COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE'S OFFICE AROUND 4 30 JUST TO CHECK IN WITH HIM ONE LAST TIME, BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE HAD TALKED, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I JUST NEED TO LOOK AT SOME MORE AND THINK IT OVER. UM WHEN I WENT TO HIS OFFICE TO TALK WITH HIM UM I SAT DOWN AND ASKED IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT FOR A FEW MINUTES. HIS RESPONSE WAS. WELL THAT DEPENDS . HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT MY HOTEL TAX BILL COMING UP? I SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TWO MONTHS AWAY. I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON TONIGHT AND FOCUS ON WHAT'S AHEAD OF US . UM HE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE YES, ON MY HOTEL TAX BILL, I'M NOT SUPPORTING YOUR AMENDMENTS. I LET HIM KNOW I DO NOT TRADE VOTES. THIS JOB IS TOO IMPORTANT AND TOO SERIOUS FOR ME TO PLAY VOTES LIKE CHESS PIECES. IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR MY COMMUNITY. STEP BY STEP. I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT HIS HOTEL TAX BILL. I WANT TO HEAR THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE MEETINGS WITH CONSTITUENTS COMING UP TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE. I WASN'T WILLING TO GUARANTEE A VOTE TWO MONTHS IN ADVANCE. THAT'S NOT HOW I GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE RAISED HIS VOICE AT ME.

HE CURSED AT ME AND TOLD ME THAT HE WOULD NOT SUPPORT ANY ACTION THAT I PUT FORWARD FROM HERE ON OUT IF I DON'T GUARANTEE MY SUPPORT FOR HIS HOTEL TAX BILL, SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO BE AGAINST AN AMENDMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF HOW IT WORKS, BUT TO USE SOMETHING THAT'S SO VITAL TO A COMMUNITY'S WELL BEING, AS UPON TO GET SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON. I TAKE ISSUE TOO. AND I'M NOT GONNA BE PUSHED AROUND. I'M NOT GONNA BE BULLIED AND I'M NOT GONNA BE MANIPULATED AND TO DO SOMETHING DOING SOMETHING I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH JUST TO TRY AND MAKE A WIN FOR MY COMMUNITY.

I DON'T WANT TO BEND MY MORALS OR MY BEST PRACTICES IN THAT WAY. THAT'S NOT HOW I'M GOING TO GOVERN, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE SHAMED FOR DOING THAT. BUT I DO THINK IT'S SHAMEFUL THAT TONIGHT. I VOTE COULD HAVE BEEN TARNISHED AND MAY HAVE BEEN TARNISHED BECAUSE I WASN'T WILLING TO PLAY BALL AND TRADE VOTES. I MIGHT VERY WELL VOTE YES ON THAT HOTEL A TAX BILL IN NOVEMBER. IT COULD HAPPEN. IF IT'S WHAT I FEEL IS BEST FOR MY COMMUNITY. I'LL VOTE YES, ONCE WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. THIS ISN'T GONNA IMPACT WHETHER I VOTE YES OR NO ON THAT BILL BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS TOO IMPORTANT FOR ME TO PLAY THAT TYPE OF GAME BUT SHAMEFUL THAT TONIGHT THAT'S THE TYPE OF ACTION AND I WOULD EXPECT FROM SOMEONE WITH 13 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BETTER DECORUM THAN THAT. SO I HOPE THAT LESSONS LEARNED THERE AND THAT YOU DON'T SHUT OFF DISTRICT F FROM SUPPORT FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. BECAUSE I'M NOT WILLING TO GIVE YOU A TWO MONTH GUARANTEE ON A BILL THAT HASN'T HAD A HEARING YET. I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CARE FOR THE 40 PLUS 1000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT DEATH AND NEIGHBOR YOUR DISTRICT ENOUGH THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS SO IMPORTANT AND I'M NOT WILLING TO PLAY THAT GAME. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL FOR ME TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH. MS

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MR. JAN JORDANA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. UM SO I KNOW THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER THAT LIVES IN BEL AIR FIELD DURING THE FALLSTON, SO I DID JUST TEXT OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECS AND LIKE TO TALK WITH HIM FURTHER, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT SPORTS ABOUT YOUTH SPORTS ABOUT WRECK FIELDS. AND SEEING IF WE CAN LOOK AT SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN UPGRADE OUR FIELDS. I GREW UP IN NORTHERN NEW JERSEY AND OUR FIELDS UP. THERE WERE FANTASTIC 40 YEARS AGO I'VE DRIVEN AROUND THAT DIFFERENT STATES AND I'VE SEEN BETTER REDFIELD'S BETTER FIELDS AND ALWAYS AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT, SO I'M GOING TO LOOK AT AT THAT AND SEE. HOW WE CAN MAYBE GET THOSE BUILT UP AND GET SOME MORE MONEY INTO THOSE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR JANE. JORDANA MR PEMON. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. JUST TWO QUICK ITEMS . UM MR RICHARDSON, IF YOU GET HIS CONVEY, I KNOW THAT WE'RE APPROACHING. THEY DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS YET, BUT THE COAL WAS AND THE 1.5% THAT WE WERE WAITING ON FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES. I'D LIKE TO SEE KIND OF WHERE THAT IS IN DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLY WITHOUT STATE RUNNING A SURPLUS. MAYBE EVEN ADD TO THAT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO A FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND ADMINISTRATION ON THAT REGARDING THE 3 15 3 17 MOUNTAIN ROAD PROJECT THAT DECK HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED PUSH BACK WITH THE NEW PROPOSED PLANS THAT WERE DISCUSSED GOING TO BE SUBMITTED. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO FOLLOWING THAT PROGRESS AS WELL. SO THAT'S ALL HAPPENED TO PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR PEMON, MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. I AGREE WITH JIM RILEY. UH, UNFORTUNATELY, MR CANNOT GET HIS FACTS STRAIGHT FOR HIM TO MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT HE MADE WAS UNHEARD OF HATEFUL. THAT STUFF IS A LIE. AND I WAS SO MANY FRIENDS IN DISTRICT F AND I MET WITH A LOT OF YOU THAT IN THIS ROOM OVER THEM SAME BILLS ON THE SAME AMENDMENTS. IT'S COME TO ME THREE DIFFERENT TIMES ON HIS AMENDMENTS, AND I TOLD HIM ALL THREE TIMES THAT I COULD NOT SUPPORT THEM AMENDMENTS THAT IT WAS NOT FAIR. TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPENDING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN IN THE PYRAMID PLACE, BUT PUTTING UP THOSE BUILDINGS AND IT'S UNFAIR TO TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN ONLY GET X NUMBER OF VEHICLES IN THERE ON A DAILY BASIS. SO IF YOU DID, IF YOU DID SAY WELL, JUST AS AS A GUEST THERE'S A YEAR ONLY ALLOWING 100 A DAY, FOR INSTANCE. AND THE GUY NEEDS TO BRING IN 120. HE CAN'T BRING IN THE OTHER. 20. WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY GOING TO GO? THAT EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. AND THEN THE NEXT DAY THAT HE ONCE BOUGHT. BRING IN 65. DO YOU WEIGH IT OUT? I MEAN, AND WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP BE ABLE TO KEEP TRACK OF IT. SO IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT HE'D COME OUT HERE AND LIE ABOUT OUR CONVERSATION. AND I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED. I'VE TRIED TO HELP HIM SINCE HE'S COME IN AND GOT HERE. I KNOW HE'S IN AN EXPERIENCE. I KNOW HE TEACHES KINDERGARTEN. AND HE IS UP AND EXPERIENCE IN HERE AND TRIED TO HELP HIM AND, UH, IT'S WENT TO, UH, IT'S ONE TO KNOW THAT MEAN THAT I TEACH KINDERGARTEN. ARE YOU CALLING ME DUMB BECAUSE I HELPED FIVE YEAR OLDS EVERY DAY. PLEASE, PLEASE. MR GUTHRIE, BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO A CLOSED THROUGH. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UH, UH, WEDNESDAY.

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ALSO THEY'RE CONCERNED AS WE ARE BECAUSE WE HEARD A REPORT IN HERE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE HOSPITALS AND THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSING THE HOSPITAL AND HAVE ANY GREASE AND TALKING ABOUT MOVING 70 SOME BEDS, BUT IT'S GOING TO GO, BUT IT'S ONLY GOING TO BALANCE OUT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN IMPROVEMENT ON THE BEDS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY. AND SO WE REALLY GOT TO THINK ABOUT, UH, HOW WE'RE GOING TO EITHER BUILD HOSPITALS OR BUILD ADDITIONS OR ADD BEDS IN OUR COUNTY. WE HAVE OVER 200 LAST COUNT OVER 266,000 PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY AND WE REALLY NEED TO PROVIDE BETTER. HOSPITALIZATION FOR THE HOSPITAL RIGHT HERE IN BLAIR.

UNFORTUNATELY AS AS REPORTED TO US HAS A 2 TO 3 HOUR WAIT IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. YOU GO TO EMERGENCY ROOM FOR EMERGENCY AND YOU HAVE TO 10 HOURS. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? LOOK. MA'AM MA'AM, MR. GUTHRIE. I'M SORRY THEY THEY'RE TELLING ME 10 HOURS IT IS IT IS. IT IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE ANIMAL LAST TIME MY WIFE HAD TO GO IN THERE. SHE WAS SIX HOURS BEFORE SHE GET IN THE ROOM. SO WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THE SITUATION IN OUR COUNTY FOR THE HOSPITALS BECAUSE THE RECEIVER OF THE BUILDING AND ALL GOING ON AROUND WITH THE ALL THE APARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING IS 5 43 TREMENDOUS UP THERE. UM WE NEED TO FIND OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA EXTEND SOMEBODY'S HOSPITALS SO WE CAN PROVIDE BEDS FOR PEOPLE WHO GET SICK. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. UM HMM. IF I MAY. I'D LIKE TO TALK TO BOTH YOU AND MR BENNETT AFTER THIS MEETING. PLEASE. UM. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE ON OCTOBER THE 12TH

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WE ALSO SUPPORTED CLIENTS IN THEIR BAGGING FOR HUNGARY OR FOR THE HUNGER EVENT. UM AND WHERE THEY MADE SEVERAL DONATIONS TO A COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN THE COUNTY. UH, THE FOOD BANK.

HORFORD FAMILY HOUSE AND RIVERSIDE ELEMENTARY, PTA, A ALSO ATTENDED HARVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, TRUNK OR TREAT EVENT. WE ALSO HOSTED A TOURISM MEETING IN HERE ON MONDAY MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK AND PREPARATION FOR THE TOURISM BILL. THAT MR GUTHRIE, UM PULLED LAST WEEK SO THAT WE COULD HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH OUR PARTNERS IN TOURISM. AND THEN FINALLY, THIS MORNING, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE I GUESS THE FIRST SHIFT AT THE HARTFORD UM COUNTIES E. M S UNIT AT SUSQUEHANNA HOSE COMPANY AT HOUSE THREE ON MARKET STREET.

THIS WILL BE THE SECOND HARFORD COUNTY UNIT IN HAVRE, GREECE. AND WITH THAT, MISS DIXON, I'D LIKE TO BRING THIS MEETING TO A CLOSE. THA

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