Nov 07, 2023 County Council

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EVENING. CHAIR CALLS ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 23-0 32. TAX CREDIT FOR PROPERTIES NEAR REFUGE DISPOSAL SYSTEM, MR SALES , MR RICHARDSON WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECORD, LAURENCE, SAY RICHARDSON JR. HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT OFFICES. EXECUTIVE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE ROBERT SANDLER'S TREASURER FOR HARFORD COUNTY. WHO IS HERE TO PROVIDE, UM SOME INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THE BILL BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A BILL THAT COMES BEFORE THE COUNCIL EACH AND EVERY YEAR, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT IT COMES IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL AND SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE EARLY NINETIES THAT IS TO PROVIDE A FULL COUNTY PROPERTY TAX CREDIT FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NEAR. UH THE COUNTY OWNED REFUSE DISPOSAL SYSTEM UP IN SCARBOROUGH AND MORE OR LESS. THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO HAVE A LANDFILL. AND BUT OF COURSE, A LOT OF THOSE COSTS ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WHO RESIDE NEAR IN THE FORM OF ADDITIONAL, UH TRAFFIC AND NOISE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UM, SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO BRING THIS LEGISLATION BEFORE JANUARY OF EACH YEAR. THIS IS FOR THE UPCOMING UM, TAX YEAR THAT WILL START ON JULY 1 AND THERE ARE 36 PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNER OCCUPIED AND THAT QUALIFY FOR THAT FOR BEING 1000. FT BY THE UM, IN PROXIMITY TO THE LANDFILL . THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THIS WILL PROBABLY ABOUT $80,000. THIS YEAR. THERE WERE 35 FOR 74,000. IT FLUCTUATES FROM YEAR TO YEAR BY ONE OR TWO IS PROPERTIES BECOME OWNER OCCUPIED AN AUTO AND ARE OCCUPIED, BUT IT'S GENERALLY IN THAT IN THAT VICINITY. THANK YOU, MR SANDERSON. IN THE PAST, I KNOW WE'VE HAD A TRACK SOME FOLKS DOWN BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT AS UH NOT AS BAD THIS YEAR. WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT BETTER NOW AT GETTING ALL OF THE EMAIL ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEND OUT A COUPLE OF REMINDERS. AND IF ALL ELSE FAILS, WE TURN TO THE LOCAL COUNCILMAN. UM BUT THIS YEAR WE DID NOT HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT STAY TUNED FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW. OKAY COUNSEL AT THIS TIME, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR BELL. THIS IS MORE SO CURIOSITY, BUT WITH THIS GOING ON FOR SO LONG HAS YOU OR ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY NOTICE ANY TREND FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AS FAR AS LIKE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE MOVED. HAS THIS TAX CREDIT MAY BE EASIER FOR THEM TO MAKE THE PROPERTY? UH DESIRABLE TO PURCHASE OR HAS IT BEEN A BENEFIT TO THE HOMEOWNERS AND THOSE KINDS OF WAYS TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING? UM YOU KNOW, A FEW $1000 TAX CREDIT THAT'S CERTAINLY BENEFICIAL AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF HOMES I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD SAY LET ME LET ME GO OUT OF MY WAY TO BUY THERE SO THAT I DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTY TAX. UM PROPERTY TAX CONCERNED, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF NEGATIVE EXTERNALITIES THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. AND WE GENERALLY BOUNCES AROUND THAT 3536 NUMBERS. SO SOME YEARS 37 7 YEARS 34, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ABOUT 60. WHAT DO I HAVE 6060 OTHERS 65 TOTAL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE 1000 FT. UM AND YOU'RE THE MAXIMUM, THOUGH THAT COULD BE OWNER OWNER OCCUPIED BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THAT ARE OWNED BY THE COUNTY. UM IS 51 SO AGAIN, IT BOUNCES AROUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT.

ANYONE ELSE? MYSTICS AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS, MR PRESIDENT. VERY GOOD. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND WILL TAKE THIS UP AT A LATER DATE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A D EVENING CHAIR CALLS ORDER

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. LORD WE ASK YOU TO HELP ORIENT ALL OUR ACTIONS BY YOUR INSPIRATIONS. CARRY THEM ON BY YOUR GRACIOUS ASSISTANCE THAT EVERY PRAYER AND WORK. AND WORK OF OURS MAY ALWAYS BEGIN FROM YOUR FROM YOU AND THROUGH YOU BE HAPPILY ENDED. I ASKED YOU TO LOOK OVER A VETERANS AS WE HONOR THEM THIS UPCOMING SATURDAY. AMEN. AMEN. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR PRESENTATION OF

[4. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS]

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SO IF I MAY I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR YOUR EFFORTS, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU HERE AT HOME AND TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU AND YOUR FELLOW DEPUTIES DUE TO PROTECT AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY EVERY DAY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE SHERIFF. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FIRST FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE DEPUTY MARKS. DEPUTY FIRST CLASS MARKS AND AS WE WILL CAPTAIN SCOTT WALTER IN A FEW MINUTES STANDING ON NOT JUST THE NATIONAL STAGE IS ROUGHLY 3500 SHARES OFFICES ACROSS THE STATE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. UM AND THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT A MEMBER OF THE HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN THE LAST NINE YEARS HAS ONE DEPUTY OF THE YEAR. UM BUT THIS ONE WAS FOR VALOR AND WHICH IS, UH, OUTSTANDING STANDING ON THE STAGE WITH NICK AND HIS WIFE, HEATHER, HIDDEN BACK HERE AT THE GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN DURING THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE WAS AN HONOR AND THEN TO BE A TO BE NOMINATED. THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE IS JUST WHAT IT SAYS. INTERNATIONAL GLOBAL TO BE ONE OF THE TOP FOUR POLICE OFFICERS IN THE WORLD IS REMARKABLE TO COME FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND INDICATIVE OF THE WORK DONE BY OUR MEN AND WOMEN EVERY SINGLE DAY, SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE NICK AND YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT A GREAT FAMILY, AND HEATHER, WHO'S HIDING BACK THERE AND AGAIN THE COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE HIM TODAY. I JUST THINK IT'S AN AMAZING THAT WE HAVE SUCH DEDICATED OFFICERS THAT JUST DISREGARD FOR THEIR SEEMS LIKE ALMOST LIKE A DISREGARD FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY. YOU RAN INTO THAT FIRE. YOU TOOK ONE PERSON OUT AND YOU REALIZED THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE THERE AND YOU WENT BACK IN. I MEAN, I JUST SAID SAYS JUST UNBELIEVABLE COURAGE AND VALOR. YOUR TO DO THAT, AND, UH YOU KNOW, JUST SHOWS WHAT WHAT LOVE WE HAVE IN THIS IN THIS COUNTY, SO WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD EFFORTS.

REPRESENTING THIS ONE FIRST.

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PHOTOSHOP OKAY? YES. NERVOUS. IF I MAY, CAPTAIN SCOTT. OKAY? WHERE IS CAPTAIN SCOTT WALTER JR . HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS BEEN WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR OVER 20 YEARS DURING HIS CAREER. HE HAS SERVED IN VARIOUS DIVISIONS WITH THE ORGANIZATION, INCLUDING TRAFFIC UNIT GANG UNIT. SPECIAL OPERATIONS, DIMINISHING MOTORCYCLE UNIT AND PATROL DIVISION. IN ADDITION TO WORKING WITHIN THESE DIVISIONS, CAPTAIN WALTERS ALSO A MOTORS.

INSTRUCTOR DEFENSIVE. TACTICS INSTRUCTOR, DRILL INSTRUCTOR, FIREARMS INSTRUCTOR AND POLYGRAPH EXAMINER AND WHEREAS BEYOND SERVING HARFORD COUNTY'S LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, CAPTAIN WALTER IS A ROLE MONITOR AND PILLAR OF HIS COMMUNITY. HIS DEVOTED HOURS TO WORKING ON CHARITABLE EVENTS AT THE MOOSE LODGE FOR FUNDRAISING EVENTS, VOLUNTEERING FOR THE VALOR PRO PROGRAM AND MAKING COUNTLESS PRESENTATIONS ON HIS OWN TIME. ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT HIS DISTINGUISHED CAREER, CAPTAIN WALTER HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS ACCOLADES.

COMMENDATIONS AND AWARDS FOR HIS OUTSTANDING SERVICE, INCLUDING THE HARTFORD HCS O VALOR AWARD AND THE MARYLAND SMOOTH OPERATOR ENFORCEMENT AWARD. HE HAS DEMONSTRATED A REMARKABLE ABILITY TO INSPIRE AND MOTIVATE HIS SUBORDINATES TO ACHIEVE THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. HIS LEADERSHIP STYLE IS CHARACTERIZED BY COMPASSIONATE RESPECT FOR THOSE UNDER HIS COMMAND. AND ITS TIRELESS DEDICATION TO THEIR WELFARE AND PROFESSIONAL GROWTH. AND WHEREAS CAPTAIN SCOTT WALTER JR WAS RECENTLY NAMED ONE OF THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS, I A C P 40 UNDER 40 POLICE LEADERS WORLDWIDE NOW THEREFORE WE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND, ON THE SEVENTH DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2023 TO HEREBY SALUTE CAPTAIN SCOTT WALTER JR 40 UNDER 40 POLICE LEADERS WORLDWIDE AND EXTEND OUR SINCEREST APPRECIATION FOR HIS DEDICATION FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE CITIZENS OF HARTFORD COUNTY.

YEAH SO CONGRATULATIONS AS WELL TO YOU. AND I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND ALL OF YOU THE INVOLVEMENT THAT YOU HAVE THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY AND THE VALUE THAT YOU BRING TO ALL OF US, AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. UH, AND WITH THAT AGAIN, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE SHERIFF.

AND I'LL JUST OFFER AGAIN. TONY G. SAID IT, UM AGAIN WORLDWIDE AND NATIONAL INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION CHIEFS OF POLICE RECOGNIZE SCOTT IS BEING ONE OF THE TOP 40 FUTURE LEADERS IN THIS PROFESSION. NONE OF US ARE GETTING ANY YOUNGER. WE HAVE TO TURN TO THE NEXT GENERATION AND HAVING THIS LEVEL OF TALENT AND OTHERS AMONGST OUR COMMAND STAFF HERE AND THEN FUTURES UM, LIKE DEPUTY DEPUTY FIRST CLASS MARKS SHOWS ME AS SHERIFF, THAT OUR FUTURE HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY IS IN GOOD HANDS. AND AM I ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT HANDS? JUST ONE GOOD HAND. JUST ONE GOOD HAND.

SCOTT FELL LAST NIGHT AT HOME. SO AMONG ALL HIS TRAINING THING WAS NOT HOW TO WORK A LADDER AT HOME IN THE GARAGE, HIS HANDS BROKEN IN THREE PLACES. AND YET HE THOUGHT ENOUGH OF THIS PRESENTATION BY THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL TAKING THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE HIM AND THE INTERNET.

THE TCP AWARD WITH THEIR OWN PROCLAMATION THAT HE PUT ON HIS UNIFORM AND CAME OUT TONIGHT TO BE WITH US. HE WON'T BE ALLOWED TO WEAR THAT UNIFORM TICKETS TO HAND FIXED AFTER TONIGHT, BUT THAT'S HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO HIM TO BE A MEMBER OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND MEMBER OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO WHICH HAND IS IT? RIGHT SO I'M LEFT HANDED. SO WHAT? WE'LL GO LEFT? THERE WE GO THERE.

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I THINK THAT. YOU MUST DO THAT MATTERS. WE ARE TALKING ROOM FOR US.

HEY, GUYS. HIGHLY CENTRAL. I'M SORRY. JACOB KEEPS CALLING. HERE. YOU WANT ME TO GO? SEE I MOVED VERY PLEASED. RIGHT? OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY WELCOME. THANK YOU, SHERIFF. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT. AGENDA ITEM WHOOPS. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? AGAIN IF I MAY. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MR RYAN IN THE AUDIENCE. UM AND, UH, MR LAMB BACK AS WELL, WHO SERVES ON THAT BOARD. I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. AND MR RYAN, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY NOT ONLY AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER BUT ALSO IN YOUR VOLUNTEER WORK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT,

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[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[9. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS]

PLEASE READ FOR INTRODUCTION. BILL 23-0 34. 23 DOWN LAST YEAR 34 DISTRIBUTION HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REVENUE INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS GUTHRIE, PENMAN, RILEY BOIL SADDLES AND PRESIDENT VINCENTI, AN ACTOR, REPEAL AND RE ENACT WITH AMENDMENTS SECTION 1 23-68 DISTRIBUTION OF REVENUE OF ARTICLE SEVEN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. OF CHARTER 123 FINANCE AND TAXATION OF THE HARFORD COUNTY CODE AS AMENDED TO REQUIRE 50% OF HOTEL TAX REVENUE COLLECTED FROM HOTELS AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY TO BE EXPENDED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT WHERE THE HOTELS ARE LOCATED AND GENERALLY RELATING TO HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND FINANCE TAXATION. PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER, 5TH 2023 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE EAST COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU, MR JANITOR. DENNIS PLEASE READ BUILD 23-0 35 INTO THE RECORD 23 DASH YEAR 35 COUNTY EMPLOYEES MIDYEAR PAY INCREASES INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI REQUESTED THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. AN ACTOR MAKE AN APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS OF THE GENERAL FUND, HIGHWAY FUND PARKS AND RECREATION FUND WATERSHED MANAGEMENT FUND AND WATER ENSURE FUND FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY FUNDING TO COVER ESTIMATED EXPENSES TO BE INCURRED DURING FISCAL YEAR.

2024 ATTRIBUTED TO ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE PAY INCREASES FOR EMPLOYEES OF HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT. PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER. 5TH 2023 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL

[10. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]

GARDEN DEPARTMENTS ARE LIMITED SOLELY TO THE LOCATIONS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CHESAPEAKE SCIENCE AND SECURITY CORRIDOR. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ON PAGE TWO IN LINE 13 AFTER APARTMENTS INSERT AND THE B THREE ZONING DISTRICT GARDEN APARTMENTS USES SHALL BE PERMITTED AS A SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT ONLY IN THE CHEST SPEAK SCIENCE AND SECURITY CORRIDOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE ON PAGE THREE AND 911 STRIKE THE OPENING BRACKET AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR ON PAGE THREE AND LYING 14 STRIKE THE CLOSING BRACKET. AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE ON PAGE THREE AND 911 AFTER DEVELOPMENT INSERT OF GARDEN APARTMENTS AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX ON PAGE

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AMENDMENT NUMBER 10 ON PAGE FOUR IN LINE 20 STRIKE SEVEN AND SUBSTITUTE EIGHT. AMENDMENT NUMBER 11 ON PAGE FIVE AND LINE ONE STRIKE AND BRACKETS AND IN THE SAME LINE STRIKE DELETIONS AND SUBSTITUTE CHANGES. AMENDMENT NUMBER 12 ON PAGE FIVE IN LINE EIGHT. STRIKE THREE AND SUBSTITUTE FOR AND THEN NUMBER 13. ON THE TITLE PAGE STRIKE BEGINNING WITH UNLESS IN THE SIXTH LINE DOWN THROUGH TO $67.76 IN THE SEVENTH LINE AND SUBSTITUTE EXCEPT FOR GARDEN APARTMENTS, LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CHESAPEAKE SCIENCE AND SECURITY CORRIDOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 14 ON THE TITLE PAGE STRIKE BEGINNING WITH UNLESS IN THE 11TH LINE DOWN THROUGH PLAN IN THE 12TH LINE AND SUBSTITUTE EXCEPT FOR GARDEN APARTMENTS, LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CHEST, SPEAK SCIENCE AND SECURITY CORRIDOR. AND THEN AT NUMBER 15 ON ATTACHMENT, A PERMITTED YOU START TITLE TO 67 ATTACHMENT 19. UH COLON DASH 12 IN THE USE CLASSIFICATION LINE TITLED GARDEN APARTMENT DWELLINGS AND THE B THREE COLUMN STRIKE THE BRACKETS. AND AFTER THERE'S MORE TO IT. AND AFTER SD INSERT THREE THANK YOU. UM. DUE TO THE TIMING . THESE AMENDMENTS WILL BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING. SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION. TO ACCEPT AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH 15 TO BUILD 23-0 27 COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH 15 TO BUILD 23-07 2ND. SECOND THANK YOU, MR RILEY. MOVED TO A SECOND MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH 15 TO BUILD 23-0 27. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR BENNETT, UM. I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCE NBC SITTING DOWN WITH ME TONIGHT TO TALK ME THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS. UM I FOUND THAT REALLY HELPFUL TO LOOK AT A MAP TOGETHER AND IDENTIFY THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED FOR GARDEN APARTMENTS ACROSS ROUTE 40 IN THE SCIENCE AND SECURITY CORRIDOR. BUT I WAS JUST THINKING OF SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL THIS TO SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT. SOME JUST THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, ONLY LISTENING. WHAT WHAT IT IS WILL BE VOTING ON IN JUST A MINUTE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAD WELL, YOU WANT ME TO? YEAH, SURE. SO IT IN OUR TIME LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS ACROSS THE COUNTY. IT'S VERY EVIDENT THAT THERE IS A PLACE AND A TIME FOR APARTMENTS AND WE FEEL LIKE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALLOWED. IT IS ALONE. THE CHESAPEAKE SCIENCE SECURITY CORRIDOR. UH NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD A HOME. WE DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, APARTMENTS ARE NEEDED. STILL HERE IN THE COUNTY. WE DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENED IN HICKORY. UM, IT'S VERY EVIDENT. IT'S OUT OF PLACE. AND NO ONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO BELIEVES THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD FIT. SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THESE AMENDMENTS. ANYONE ELSE, MR. DANIEL DENNETT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I KNOW WE WORKED PRETTY HARD ON THIS PROBABLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS FROM BEFORE. I THINK IT WAS EVIDENT AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT SAID NOBODY LIKED THE IDEA OF ALL OF A SUDDEN FINDING OUT THAT THERE WAS A FIVE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX IS BEING BUILT IN HICKORY. UM THAT WAS TO MY SURPRISE, AND COUNCILMAN RILEY'S WHEN WE WENT IN TO LOOK AT ANOTHER PROJECT THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT ON ON ROUTE 24, AND WE HAPPEN TO NOTICE WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND WE ASKED THE QUESTION. WHAT IS THAT? AND SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, THAT'S

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THERE WAS NO APARTMENTS LOUD AND THE B THREE ZONING. UM THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING BACK THEN THERE WAS A BUNCH OF LAWYERS THAT CAME AND TALKED ABOUT IT. UM, AND ONE OF THEM SAID THAT AH! YOU KNOW THE PROPOSED CODE IS BALANCED AND THAT CHANGES COULD BE MADE IN THE FUTURE. SO THIS IS CHANGES BEING MADE IN THE FUTURE TO BRING IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS BEFORE SO THAT THERE'S NO APARTMENTS BEING BUILT AND IN THE B THREE ZONE, UM SO COUNCIL PRESIDENT THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR. RILEY YES. ONE WHEN ME AND COUNCILMAN, UH JORDANA WENT TO LOOK AT THOSE MAPS. I TRY TO DO EVERYTHING I COULD TO STOP IT AND ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN 2017, SO THERE'S NO WAY IS DISTRICT D BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT HAPPENS TO RESIDE THAT I COULD STOP IT. UH BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. GOING FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE? MR MR BENNETT AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE CHESAPEAKE SCIENCE AND SECURITY CORRIDOR THAT'S LOCATED DIRECTLY AROUND ROUTE 40. SO YOU KNOW THAT'S UH, YOU KNOW, PROPER PLACEMENT TO HAVE RESOURCES NEAR APARTMENTS, TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BUS SUPPORTS NEAR APARTMENTS. UM YOU KNOW AMPLE SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES AND GROCERY STORES NEAR APARTMENTS. THAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND BEHIND ALLOWING GARDEN APARTMENTS ACROSS THERE, IN CASE ANYBODY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE CHESAPEAKE SCIENCE AND SECURITY CORRIDOR IS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO IN THE IN THE NEGATIVE AMENDMENTS, ONE THROUGH 15 ARE HEREBY APPROVED. UM COUNCIL MEMBER OF PENMAN, PLEASE READ AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH THREE INTO THE RECORD. REMEMBER NUMBER ONE ON PAGE ONE AND LINE NINE AFTER FOUR. STRIKE THREE AND SUBSTITUTE TO AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ON PAGE ONE. ONLINE 13 STRIKE THREE AND SUBSTITUTE TO REMEMBER NUMBER THREE ON PAGE ONE AND LINE 15 AFTER FOUR. STRIKE THREE AND SUBSTITUTE TOO, MR PRESIDENT. TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S THESE ARE MEMBERS 123 FOR BILL 23, 0 28. MY APOLOGIES. MY APOLOGY THAT'S CORRECT. UM. SO AGAIN, UH, WITH A TIMING ISSUE. THESE AMENDMENTS WILL BE CONSIDERED THIS EVENING TO SO IS THERE A MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? THANK YOU. MR HODDLE'S. HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. UH TO AMEND OR THE AMENDMENTS ONE THROUGH THREE TO BUILD 23-0 28. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR JAN JORDANIAN. SO THIS THIS TAKES THE BILL THAT THAT I INTRODUCED THAT HAS THREE TERMS WITH ONE TERM COMING OFF. UM AND THEN COMING AND THEN YOU CAN RUN AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S FOUR YEARS, EIGHT YEARS 12 YEARS 20 YEARS TO COME BACK WHEN IT COUNCIL UM IF THE CITIZENS CHOOSE TO PUT YOU BACK ON THE COUNCIL, THEN THEY'LL PUT YOU BACK ON THE COUNCIL. UH ORIGINALLY COUNCIL, PENMAN CAME OUT WITH THREE TERMS IN FEBRUARY LAST YEAR. THAT BILL NEVER MADE IT TO THE FLOOR. HE PULLED IT THE NIGHT BEFORE IT DID COME OUT A SECOND TIME. FEW MONTHS LATER, THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN AMENDMENT THEN TO MAKE THE TERM THREE YEARS WITH SUCCESSION, AND HE DECIDED TO PULL THAT BILL AT THAT TIME AS WELL. SO THIS BILL GOES BACK COMPROMISE. IT IS THREE TERMS. AND IT IS WITH SUCCESSION MEANING THAT YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMES BACK. IF JACOB HAS, YOU KNOW, GETS OFF THE COUNCIL IN 20 YEARS LATER, HE WANTS TO RUN AGAIN. HE COULD DO THAT F. DIONNE'S OFF THE COUNCIL IN 20 YEARS HE WANTS TO RUN AGAIN. PUSHING UP DAISIES SO , BUT I THINK IT LET'S I THINK IT LEADS TO PEOPLE CHOOSE WHO THEY WANT TO RUN. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO COUNSEL HIM TO BE HERE, HE'S NOT GONNA BE HERE.

CURTIS WAS ON THE COUNCIL. UM JACOB HAD VERY LITTLE MONEY. JACOB ONE. CURTIS IS NOT HERE ANYMORE. ROB WAGNER WAS ON A COUNCIL MANY TIMES HE RAN AGAIN. JESSICA BEAT HIM. HE'S NOT ON THE COUNCIL ANYMORE. SO IT'S A IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM THE WAY IT STANDS WITH PEOPLE VOTING FOR WHO THEY WANT AND NOT WHO THEY WANT. SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ERRANDS. AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MR PENMAN. UM LOOK, I APPRECIATE UH TONY, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION OF TERM LIMITS BECAUSE PRIOR TO TAKING OFFICE AND THIS COUNCIL, THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ON TERM LIMITS. AND UH, TONY'S RIGHT. I INTRODUCED THIS BILL ON TWO OCCASIONS. THE

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REMEMBER NUMBER ONE ON TITLE PAGE AND 3RD, 4TH AND 5TH LINES IN EACH INSTANCE AFTER THE WORD REAL INSERT AND PERSONAL PROPERTY AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ON PAGE ONE ONLINE, 14 AFTER COUNTY INSERT REAL AND PERSONAL THANK YOU, UM IS THERE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO PASS MEMBERS NUMBER ONE AND TWO TO BUILD 23-0 TO 9. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, MR GUTHRIE. WAS THAT YOU? YES.

THANK YOU. HE MADE A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO TO BUILD 23-29. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT HIGH. MR GUTHRIE. MR PENMAN, MR. CHAN GIORDANO. HI MR RILEY. SADDLES, MR BENNETT. BEING SEVEN VOTING AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE AMENDMENTS, ONE THROUGH TWO ARE HEREBY APPROVED. 11 CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS. BUILD 23-0 27

[11. CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS]

THANK YOU, MR RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE. EXCUSE ME? YES TO PROVE BILL 23 DESKS. YOU'RE 27 AS AMENDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM THIS BILL ALONG WITH 2311. THE ORIGINAL VERSION HAS BEEN DIFFICULT LEGISLATION. BILL 2311 WAS FUNDAMENTALLY FALLED. AND UH, THERE WAS SOME UNINTENDED ERRORS IN THERE THAT WOULD HAVE STILL ALLOWED APARTMENTS IN MID RISE APARTMENTS AND B THREE YOU NEEDED SOME REVISIONS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE FOREVER AGO, MYSELF AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI STOOD IN FRONT OF THE FOSTER COMMUNITY GROUP WITH KATE AND WE JUST DISCUSSED REVISITING 2311 IN A DIFFERENT VERSION. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THEIR PASSION AND INPUT ON THIS LEGISLATION. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THEIR HELP AND INPUT IN THE WORKGROUP. I BELIEVE THE WORK ROUTE PRODUCERS SOLUTION WITH REDUCING THE FOOTPRINT AND IMPACT FROM THE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND IF THIS BILL WERE NOT TO PASS, I WOULD, UH I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A VIABLE OPTION WHILE THE WORKGROUP SOLUTION WASN'T PERFECT. I THINK THIS LEGISLATION ISN'T NECESSARILY PERFECT. THIS BILL PUSHES STANDALONE APARTMENTS AND THE B THREE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ALONG THE ROUTE 40 CORRIDOR. IN ADDITION, IF THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO STOP GROWTH, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WILL BE CRIPPLING WITH THAT SAID, I DO BELIEVE THIS BILL IS STILL COMPROMISE AND STILL ALLOWS APARTMENTS NB THREE UNDER SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT AND MIXED JUICE AS IT RELATES TO THE MOUNTAIN ROAD PROJECT TO BUILD DOES NOT STOP DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M CONCERNED OVER THE IMPACT OF THE OTHER B THREE PERMITTED USES. OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THOSE WAS SUGGESTED LAST WEEK, WHICH IS TRANSIENT HOUSING FOR REHAB FACILITY. IF THAT WERE TO COME TO FRUITION, I WOULD WONDER HOW MANY WOULD PREFER THE 48 SENIOR LIVING APARTMENTS WITH ALL THAT SAID, MR PENMAN. HOLD ON. JUST A MINUTE. I'M GOING TO REMIND EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF OR I'LL ASK YOU TO LEAVE THESE CHAMBERS. WITH ALL THAT SAID, I DO UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ISSUE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IS PRESIDENT, MR ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT. MR GUTHRIE. MR PENMAN , MR. JAN GIORDANO. HI MR RILEY. SADDLES. MR BENNETT. I. YOU'RE

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WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. TOMORROW. SOMEONE WILL UM. MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO. HI MR RILEY. MR BULL SADDLES. NO, MR BENNETT. SO WE HAVE FIVE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ONE NEGATIVE. ONE ABSTENTION BUILT 23 DASH YEAR, 28 IS HEREBY APPROVED. BILL 23-0 29. TAX CREDIT, NONPROFIT SWIM CLUBS. AS AMENDED. THEY HAVE EMOTION. MAKE A MOTION, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN SECOND. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. THEY MADE US INTO A PERSON TO APPROVE. YES. THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE BUILT 23-0 29 HAS AMENDED IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JAN GIORDANO, MR RILEY SADDLES, MR BENNETT. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN. VOTING AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO NEGATIVE. BILL 23-0 29 AS AMENDED IS HEREBY APPROVED. UM BILL 23-0 30 RESTAURANTS MORATORIUM CONTINUATION MAY HAVE EMOTION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT MAY MOVE TO APPROVE BILL 23-030 AS AMENDED. THANK YOU, MR PEMON MAY HAVE A 2ND 2ND. THANK YOU, MR DANIEL DENNETT. NOT AS AMENDED NOW. I'M SORRY. IT'S OK. WANT TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION? YES, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE BILL 23-030. THANK YOU SECOND. THANK YOU, MR CHANDRA. DINNER. IT'S BEEN MOVING A SECOND TO APPROVE BILL 23-0 30 RESTAURANTS, MORATORIUM CONTINUATION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS TODAY WITH MR RICHARDSON IN A MEMO THAT WE RECEIVED FROM PLANNING AND ZONING AND POSSIBLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS WELL, SO I THINK IF THIS IS GOING TO SOME POINT JUST BE STANDARD PRACTICE DOWN THE ROAD. WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS TO ZONING CODE. UM SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT? OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO. UM. ANYONE ELSE, MR. GUTHRIE, THIS TAKES THIS OUT OF ANOTHER YEAR,

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23-0 30 RESTAURANTS, MORATORIUM CONTINUATION OR CERTIFIED AS BEING THE TEXT FINALLY PASSED.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13 UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE 14 NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE. 17

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FALLSTON MARYLAND TO TOWN FOR SEVEN. CAN YOU TELL? I LIVE IN BOSTON? UM THE CLOCK'S ALREADY STARTED, OKAY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT ONLY LISTEN BUT TAKING ACTION TO HELP EACH DISTRICT IN HARFORD COUNTY AS A WHOLE TO HELP PRESERVE ITS CHARM AND HELP CATCH UP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE. I'D LIKE TO THANK EACH OF YOUR AIDS FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE. THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL THROUGHOUT THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, ESPECIALLY SAMANTHA HARRIS. MR BEEN SENT TO SHE'S BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL. UM SHE HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING WITH COMMUNICATION AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SHORTAGE OF IT. UM I SINCERELY APPRECIATE HER AND ALL OF YOUR AIDS. I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE GOTTEN BACK TO ME. I KNOW I AM DOGGEDLY PERSISTENT. UM I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT OVER DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY IN FALLSTON, BUT IN HARTFORD COUNTY AS A WHOLE. IN MY OPINION, IT'S TOO MUCH WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE BEING CAUGHT UP. UM INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST NOT HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE HAVE IF YOU GOT ALL HAVE TALKED MORE ABOUT BUILDING MORATORIUMS, MR. GUTHRIE, I KNOW YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT IN THE PAST. UM I DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING WRITTEN DOWN THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. AND I DROPPED MY SPOTTED LANTERN FLY. UM I AM INFORMATION WHEN I WAS LEAVING NONETHELESS. UM. OH I WANTED TO SPEAK JUST VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT THE APARTMENTS IN BELLY ARE NOT NOT AND YOU'RE THE BALL. NOT NOT THE FIRST ONES. UM EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT THE TOWN OF BEL AIR IS ITS OWN ENTITY, EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED IN HARFORD COUNTY. AND THAT CONCERNS ME. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE NOT THE DECISION MAKERS ON THAT, BUT IT'S STILL IMPACTS. INFRASTRUCTURE TRAFFIC ROADS, SCHOOLS, UM, THE HOSPITAL, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. SO I. I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT THAT THUMB. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW YOU CAN HELP ON THAT. BUT I'M SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE SMART SO WE CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. I DO HAVE RESEARCH ABOUT SPOTTED LANTERN FLIES, SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FROM THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE COLLECTED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. BUT THERE'S A CONNECTION BETWEEN SPOTTED LANTERN FLIES AND OVERDEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY QUITE INTRIGUING. I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF YOU EITHER IN THIS ROOM UP THERE HAVE NOTICED AN INFLUX IN SPOTTED LANTERN FLIES RECENTLY. IN MARYLAND AND IN PARTICULAR, HARFORD COUNTY.

UM THERE ARE THESE TREES THAT ARE CALLED THEIR NICKNAME. TREE OF HEAVEN. I'D HAVE TO LOOK UP THE SCIENTIFIC UM, NAME BECAUSE I JUST DON'T RECALL, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH MORE LIKE A TREE OF HELL. UM AND THE SPOTTED MENTOR. IF I REALLY REALLY LIKES THIS PARTICULAR TREE, AND IF THEY'RE NOT DISPOSED OF PROPERLY, UM DURING EXCAVATION OF PROPERTIES. THE LARVA CAN LIVE FOR AN A SURPRISINGLY LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN WHEN LOGS AND OTHER DEBRIS IS TRANSPORTED THROUGHOUT

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. EVENING DEBBIE SCHREIBER. 1114 STRUM. GO DRIVE, PFOSTEN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR LANGE'S TO SPEAK. I JUST WANTED TO READ THE IMPORTANCE OF COUNCIL DISTRICT BE IN HARTFORD COUNTY. THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

CAN YOU SPEAK UP TO THE MICROPHONE? A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLETE BETTER? YES I CAN'T SEE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF DISTRICT BE DESERVED A REPRESENTATIVE THAT'S IN THE POSITION FOR THE RIGHT REASONS TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND NOT BE SELF SERVING. YOU AND YOUR PIGEON OPINIONS MATTER AND SHOULD BE HEARD. AS YOUR COUNTY COUNCILMAN. I AM ACTIVE AND PRESENT IN THE COMMUNITY TO LISTEN TO YOUR TO YOUR CONCERNS AND ISSUES. AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL. I SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR VOICE ON THE IMPORTANCE. AND PRESSING ISSUES THAT AND WILL MAKE POSITIVE CHANGES. I JUST WANTED TO READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT A YEAR AGO. THANK YOU, MA'AM. DIANA SADOWSKI, FOLLOWED BY JOHN MILAM. L. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. DIANA SADOWSKI 1113 STRONG CO DRIVE FALLSTON, MARYLAND TO 1047. ACROSS OUR STATE, WE CAN SEE THE RESULTS OF BAD POLITICS AND HOW IT'S DESTROYING THE CITIES THAT DESTRUCTION IS NO LONGER LIMITED TO THAT AREA, BUT IT'S SPREAD TO THE SUBURBS AND BEYOND. JUST LOOK AT RISING CRIME JUST THIS PAST SUNDAY IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, PEOPLE WERE ROBBED IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE WALMART IN NOTTINGHAM, NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE. THIS IS JUST AN INCIDENT THAT MADE LOCAL NEWS HOW MUCH MORE IS HAPPENING THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING ABOUT? RISING CRIME ACCOMPANIES HIGH DENSITY HOUSING PROJECTS. SO BY ALL MEANS, LET'S BUILD MORE VOUCHER.

I MEAN LUXURY APARTMENTS. CAN WE NOT LEARN FROM SURROUNDING COUNTIES EXPERIENCES? FOR EXAMPLE, APARTMENTS VILLE? I MEAN, COCKEYSVILLE. PARCO WILL EXPERIENCE THEIR SAME WOES AS THE APARTMENTS RISE OUT OF HARFORD MALL AND THE BEL AIR TOWNSHIP. NOW WHAT I FIND TRULY DISTURBING AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD, TOO, IS THAT OUT OF STATE INVESTORS ARE DICTATING WHAT THE GROWTH OF OUR COUNTY SHOULD LOOK LIKE. THEY DON'T KNOW HARFORD COUNTY. THEY DON'T KNOW ITS RESIDENTS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN STATES INFLUENCES, ALBEIT MASSACHUSETTS, VIRGINIA OR ANY OTHER STATE, AND I SAY, STAY PUT AND IMPROVE YOUR OWN STATE. MR PENMAN FOR WEEKS NOW WE'VE HAD TO ENDURE YOUR EXCITEMENT ABOUT YOUR DEVELOPER FRIEND, LOWERING THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES AND ADDING THE 55 PLUS DESIGNATION TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN FALLSTON. WELL AFTER LAST FRIDAY'S AEGIS ARTICLE, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THAT I'M SURE WE'VE ALL KIND OF SCENE THAT MISS SADOWSKI? YES. I THINK YOU SHOULD HOLD UP THERE. YOU'RE GETTING TOO CLOSE TO WHAT WE TOOK CARE OF THIS EVENING. SO I'D RATHER YOU GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, PLEASE. OKAY WELL, MR PENMAN BROUGHT IT UP, SO I FIGURE IT'S FAIR GAME. WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS SAID IN THAT ARTICLE. LEGISLATION HAS BEEN SETTLED THIS EVENING. YOU CAN BRING IT UP NEXT WEEK. OKAY? UM. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PANTS OF LEAST RESISTANCE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY. YES, MA'AM. WHICH I THINK IS TOTAL HOGWASH. AND FOR ANYONE TO BE EXCITED. ABOUT PUTTING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. IN THE FOSTER COMMUNITY. IRREPARABLE. AND TO THINK THAT THEY WANT TO PUT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING CLOSE TO WHERE A LIQUOR STORE IS IN WALKING DISTANCE OR BARS AND RESTAURANTS. THAT'S DELUSIONAL. OUR COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN OUT AND STILL, YOU DON'T LISTEN OR CARE. YOU'VE GOT TO STOP THE GAME PLAYING. THERE ARE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED THAT NOT ALL INVESTMENTS ARE GOOD ONES OR GUARANTEED SUCCESSFUL. WE'VE ALSO INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING A FAST OR GUARANTEED BUCK OFF THE BACKS OF THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S PAST TIME YOU PUT THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS FIRST, BUT THAT REQUIRES LISTENING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. THAT'S NOT YOUR INTEREST. OUR QUEST FOR HAPPINESS IS TRULY AN INDIVIDUAL THING. FOR SOME, IT'S A NEW

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTE CALLED ME THAT EVENING AND TOLD ME THAT HE WAS TAKING NOTES ON MY COMMENTS AND THAT I OWED HIM APOLOGIZE. REQUESTED THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENT TO ACT TO RESOLVE MY CONCERNS REGARDING THE ZONING AND LAND ISSUES IDENTIFIED HE AGREED TO DO SO. I AGREED TO APOLOGIZE AT THE 15 DECEMBER 2020 COUNCIL MEETING. I DID APOLOGIZE TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI. WE HAD TWO MEETINGS REGARDING THE ISSUES I RAISED, THEN NOTHING. ON 10.

AUGUST 2021. I SENT AN EMAIL TO MR VINCENTI REQUESTING AN UPDATE ON HIS EFFORT TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES THAT I PRESENTED TO HIM AT OUR LAST MEETING ON 10. AUGUST 2021. I GOT A REPLY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR REMINDER AND PATIENTS WILL SET SOMETHING UP IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO AND THEN NOTHING. THOSE ISSUES ARE STILL UNRESOLVED, AND REQUESTS FOR FURTHER UPDATES ARE LEFT UNANSWERED. ON 8 FEBRUARY 2023. I SENT AN EMAIL TO COUNTY EXECUTIVE KATHLEEN OUTLINING LAND USE AND ZONING ISSUES, AND I GOT AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. DEAR FRIEND, THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO MY OFFICE TODAY VIA EMAIL. YOUR CONCERNS AND NEEDS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO MY OFFICE AND TWO HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT. IF YOU HAVE EMAILED US TODAY ABOUT A CONSTITUENT SERVICE ISSUE, A MEMBER OF MY CONSTITUENT SERVICES TEAM WILL RESPOND SHORTLY TO FURTHER ASSIST YOU. IF YOU HAVE EMAILED ME ABOUT ATTENDING AN EVENT OR ASKING FOR A PROCLAMATION CERTIFICATE. HEY MEMBER OF MY SCHEDULING TEAM WILL REACH OUT TO YOU. WHEN REGISTRATION IS MADE. ALL OF THE REQUEST WILL BE REVIEWED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO BUSINESS DAYS AND RESPONDED TO APPROPRIATELY. WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO EMAIL MY OFFICE TODAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO RESPOND IN A TIMELY MANNER. I KNEW IMMEDIATELY THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MR CASTELLI, THE NEW GUY AND HIS PREDECESSOR, MR. GLASSMAN, THE LAST GUY MR CASHLEY IS TALLER AND MOST LIKELY SPENDS LESS TIME COMBING HIS HAIR. THE REST. MAYBE NOT SO MUCH. I KNOW MR. CASTELLI IS THE NEXT GUY. I'M NOT SURE HE'S THE RIGHT GUY. BETTER GUY OR JUST ANOTHER GUY. I NEVER DID GET AN ANSWER OR RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL. ANOTHER THREE TYPES OF STORIES. THE FAIRY TALE OPENS WITH ONCE UPON A TIME. USUALLY FILLED WITH PERSONAL SADNESS AND TRAGEDY AND ENDS HAPPILY EVER AFTER. THE WAR STORY OPENS WITH THIS IS NO FOOLING, FILLED WITH EPIC BRAVERY AND COURAGE AND ENDS WITH EVERYONE A HERO. THE POLITICAL PARODY BEGINS WHEN I'M ELECTED. FILLED WITH MISCHIEF AND SILLINESS AND ROAD APPLES. AND IT DOESN'T END SOON ENOUGH. THERE ARE BRIGHT LINES BETWEEN HOPE, REALITY AND EXPECTATIONS. AND FINALLY LIKE TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE. TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES. IN THIS COUNTO THE FAMILIES WHO SUPPORT THEM. GOODNIGHT. THANKS, SIR. KATE HER BELSKI, FOLLOWED BY MATT CHANDLER. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING AND ADDRESS, PLEASE . MY NAME IS KATE. PROBABLE SKI. I LIVE AT 2217 EDINBURGH DRIVE AND PFOSTEN. UM I AM ALSO THE TREASURER. SECRETARY OF THE MOUNTAIN ROSE JOANIE BOOK WOODCREST IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE ELDERLY OR IN POOR HEALTH AND WOULD LOVE TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GET HERE AND THEY ASKED ME TO SPEAK FOR THEM FIRST. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR VOTING FOR THE BILL. UM, THAT, UH SOME OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO SAY, UM, IT'S A START. IT'S A START, AND IT'S A START IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM BECAUSE WE SAY NO TO MORE TRAFFIC. WE SAY NO TO MORE ACCIDENTAL MOUNTAIN ROAD AND EVERY INTERSECTION WE SAY NO TO PAVING OVER THE WILDCAT BRANCH OR DAMAGING IN IT IT IN ANY WAY. WE SO NO, NO TO SCHOOL OVERCROWDING. WE SAY NO TO OVERCROWDED REC PROGRAMS, COMMUNITY AND OUR CHILDREN ARE TOO IMPORTANT TO US. I'M QUOTING HERE FROM THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING MODELS AND GUIDELINES NUMBER 24. IN PLAIN ENGLISH, ENGLISH AND A P F O ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES ORDINANCE SAYS IF THE ROADS ARE TOO CONGESTED IF THE SCHOOLS CLASSROOMS ARE TOO CROWDED IF

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LAUREN HEUSER FROM BOSTON ARE FAST IN PERSON. SHE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB RESEARCHING THIS TOPIC EXTENSIVELY, AND I FOUND THE FACTS ASTOUNDING THAT OTHER COUNTIES COLLECT SO MUCH MORE FROM DEVELOPERS. JUST ONE EXAMPLE IS THE 184 APARTMENTS AT HICKORY. IF THIS THESE SAME APARTMENTS WERE BUILT IN FREDERICK COUNTY, THE IMPACT THE WOULD BE $1.6 MILLION IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY. IT WOULD BE $3.1 MILLION IN P. G COUNTY. IT WOULD BE $3.65 MILLION, AND IN HARFORD COUNTY, IT WOULD BE AMAZINGLY $220,800. THAT'S $1200 TIMES 184 APARTMENTS. HARFORD COUNTY HAS AN UPDATED IMPACT FEES AND 2004 WHEN WE WERE INSTALLED, STILL USING A FLIP PHONE, AND BIEBER'S COUNCIL HAS DROPPED THE BALL, IT'S BEYOND TIME TO MAKE CHANGES TO IMPACT THESE IN ORDER TO SLOW GROWTH AND GENERATE FUNDS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES BEFORE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR VOTES TONIGHT AND FOR LISTENING TO US. THANK YOU, MA'AM. PLEASE. NO CLOTHES, PLEASE. PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. MATT CHANDLER 841 RIPPLE STREAM COURT, MARYLAND TO 1085. THERE'S 3200 AND 99 HOMES IN BOSTON. I THINK THE NUMBER OF ATTENDINGS ATTENDEES FOR COMMUNITY INPUT MEETING ON AUGUST 11TH WERE ABOUT 750. THOSE ARE ONLY THE ONES THAT COULD FIT IN THE GYM.

THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY. WHETHER IT BE PERRIMAN, PFOSTEN OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY OR COUNTY AS A WHOLE. WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE BURDEN ON OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. WHEN CONSIDERING FUTURE BILLS. I IMPLORE YOU TO FOCUS ON THESE CONCERNS THAT WE ALL BRING UP FUNCTIONING HOSPITALS, TOP SCHOOLS, KEEPING CRIME IN CHECK USABLE ROADS, FUNCTIONAL PUBLIC UTILITIES AND A SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT. YOU HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO ENACT LAWS AND PROTECT THESE VERY BASIC BUT CRITICAL FUNCTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC. PLEASE CONTINUE TO TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY REFLECT ON CONCERNS CITIZENS HAVE AND WHY SO MANY HAVE SHOWN UP OVER THE MONTHS WHERE A FEW KEY BILLS THERE IS MUCH IN COMMON. I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S LIKE THIS EVERY TUESDAY, BUT I'VE ONLY BEEN TO THREE OF THESE MEETINGS. MR VINCENTI, MR. BENNETT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROMPT RESPONSES. I'M STILL WAITING ON MR PENSIONS CALL FROM MID OCTOBER FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT BILL 23 OR 27. THERE IS NO NEED TO CALL BACK AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. BRIANNA COLEMAN, FOLLOWED BY RICK METZNER. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, BRIANNA COLEMAN 2347 ENGLE ROAD IN BOSTON. GOOD EVENING. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. I WANTED TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR BUSY SCHEDULES TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH ME PERSONALLY OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS. I HOPE THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF MORE CONVERSATIONS AND LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT BENEFIT ALL OF HARFORD COUNTY. I'VE BEEN COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, SINCE SEPTEMBER BECAUSE I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE NEED TO AND CAN MAKE POSITIVE CHANGES TOGETHER. I HOPE TO SEE THE LEGISLATION ON LOWERING THE A P. F. SCHOOL THRESHOLD. COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE PROMISED SOON AS WELL AS HOPEFULLY COMING BACK NEXT WEEK TO LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE HOSPITAL. I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE IMPACT FEES, WHICH WE JUST DISCUSSED. THOSE ARE THE FEES PAID BY DEVELOPERS FOR THE IMPACT OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY WITH A LARGE PORTION GOING TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF SCHOOLS. THE IMPACT FEES FOR APARTMENTS IN HARFORD COUNTY ARE CURRENTLY ON CLEARANCE. COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTIES. AS YOU JUST HEARD. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT A STUDENT LIVING IN AN APARTMENT HAS THE SAME IMPACT AS A STUDENT LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND THE FEES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THAT HARFORD COUNTY IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE WORK, RAISE A FAMILY AND TO VISIT I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT, AS WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IN THIS ROOM IF WE DIDN'T AND THE SCOPE OF THE WORLD THE ISSUES AT HAND OR MINUSCULE, BUT THEY ARE STILL ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND CORRECTED, AND I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE POSITIVE CHANGES THAT BENEFIT THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE WORK AND CHOOSE TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. YES RICHARD METZGER 24 OF FIVE. EDWARDS MANNER DR FORREST HILL,

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HERE'S WHAT I KNOW. I LIVE IN EDWARDS MANNER, WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD SITUATED IN FOREST HILL. IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, WE'VE HAD FOUR BREAK INS IN TWO STOLEN VEHICLES. CRIME IS ON THE RISE, WHETHER WE WANNA FACE IT OR NOT, THESE THINGS SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. IMAGINE FOR A MOMENT. THE ALTERNATIVE IF WE CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT THESE WAREHOUSE SPACES OFFER, WE RISK STARRING THE ECONOMIC HEARTBEAT OF OUR COUNTY. WE DON'T WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS TO RISE, BUT THERE IS A GAP BETWEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITH THE RAIDS AND THE CURRENT MARKET THAT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN TO DISCUSS WHAT IT MEANS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED AND I HAVE A TODDLER. SUPPORTING AND CHOOSING TO SUPPORT WAREHOUSES. WE MAKE A DELIBERATE CHOICE TO SHAPE OUR OWN DESTINY, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE FUTURE OF COMMERCE LIES IN THE DIGITAL REALM AND WAREHOUSES. OTHERWISE WE RISK BECOMING LIKE ROUTE 66 IF ANYBODY STUDIED ROUTE 66 ROUTE, 66 WAS TAKEN OVER IN THE IN THE MODERN AGE BECAUSE THEY FAILED TO ADAPT. AND THEY WERE TAKEN OVER BY THE ROAD SYSTEM, NOT ADAPT, NOT ADAPTING, SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT IT CAN MEAN FOR THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU, SIR. IN THE LAST SPEAKER THIS EVENING, BILL WHELAN. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. DAVIS PHIL WHELAN, 415 CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD BEL ARE MARYLAND, 21015. MY TOPIC TONIGHT IS AFFORDABLE APPEALS AUTHORITY FOR ZONING CASE DECISIONS MADE IT'S NOT A NEW SUBJECT, AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION VIA MEETINGS FOR SOME TIME. AND MY COMMENTS TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD BOARD TO MEAN THE BOARD OF APPEALS AND COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE BY THE CHARTER AND THE ZONING CODE COUNTY COUNCIL IS THE BOARD OF APPEALS SO THAT WILL BE EASED. THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW DEPARTMENT STATED. THE BOARD DOES NOT HAVE ANY OF FOURTH AUTHORITY FOR THE SITUATION MAKES GOING TO SAY THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS NOT OBLIGATED. TO ENFORCE FINAL DECISIONS, THE BOARD AND PURSUIT OF ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS OR A POLICY LEFT TO THE DISCRETION EXECUTIVE BRANCH. THIS IS NOT DEFINED ANYWHERE AND THE HARFORD COUNTY CHARTER OR CODE. THE COUNCIL ATTORNEY HAS STATED THE ENFORCEMENT POWERS THE ZONING CODE THAT'S GIVEN TO THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

UNFORTUNATELY THE ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR NON COMPLIANT OR NOT CARRIED OUT. THERE'S EVIDENCE TO THAT. IN FACT, THE BURNING QUESTION IS WHETHER THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH MUST UPHOLD

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QUESTION WHY DOES THE COUNCIL ALLOW THE ADMINISTRATION TO CONTROL THEIR DECISIONS? WHAT IS THE POINT IN HAVING THE BOARD MAKE DECISIONS? MY EMAIL IN OCTOBER 18TH. I REQUESTED AN ANSWER TO TWO QUESTIONS. ONE DO YOU BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THE UNILATERAL RIGHT TO IGNORE THE FINAL DECISIONS? OF THE HEARING EXAMPLE IN TO DO YOU BELIEVE THE COUNTY COUNCIL SHOULD CONTINUE AS THE BOARD OF APPEALS? I RECEIVED NO RESPONSE TO THOSE QUESTIONS FOR MANY COUNCIL MEMBER EXCEPT A REPLY FROM MR BENNETT. I RESPONDED AND THANKED HIM WITH COMMENTS.

HERE'S SOME FINDINGS. THERE'S 23 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND. HARFORD COUNTY IS THE ONLY COUNTY WHERE THE COUNCIL IS DESIGNATED AS THE BOARD OF APPEALS FOUND THROUGH RESEARCH THAT THE MARYLAND CODE LAND USE SUBTITLE THREE BOARD OF APPEALS SECTION FOURTH AT 301 STATES, AND I QUOTE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY BY NOT SERVE AS THE BOARD OF APPEALS. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE THE ONLY NON COMPLIANT COUNTY. IN CONCLUSION. I THINK THERE'S TWO CHOICES GOING FORWARD AS THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH TO COUNSEL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE THAT GIVES THE COUNCIL THE POWER AND AUTHORITY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF BORDER SEALS, DECISIONS OR FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE OF MARYLAND AND ALL THE OTHER COUNTIES IN MARYLAND, ESTABLISH A BOARD OF APPEALS. THAT IS INDEPENDENT OF BOTH THE LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTIVE BRANCHES OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT. GIVING NOBODY AUTHORITY TO MAKE AND ENFORCE FINAL TONY DECISIONS. OF COURSE, THIS WILL REQUIRE A CHARTER AND CODE AMENDMENT AND MAYBE THE BEST CHOICE AND MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITIZENS WHOM YOU SERVED. CONTINUING AS IS IT'S NOT AN OPTION, AND WE ALREADY KNOW THE PROBLEMS THAT CAUSE I BELIEVE PURSUE IT TO THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION I THINK OF RESPONSE IS DUE TO ME. THANK THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR WHELAN. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS. MR PRESIDENT. ALRIGHT LET'S MOVE TO AGENDA NUMBER 16 BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, MR BENNETT. HELLO UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO COVER A FEW THINGS I'VE BEEN UP TO, UM, AND A FEW THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP. UM FARMERS TOWN OPENED JUST THIS PAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO AND HAVE DEGREES WITHDRAW ALLEY. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN TO DOWNTOWN HABIT, YOU, GRACE TO SEE GROW.

AALIYAH IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. UM AND ALL THE MURALS THAT ARE UP THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SEE SOME OF THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY. UM AND JUST THE ART SPACE IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR ARTISTS IN, UH, HAVING THE GRACE TO DISPLAY THEIR ART AND WORK ON THEIR ART. IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE HOW FAR THAT'S COME. UM ALSO, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE HISTORICAL MARKER INSTALLATION CEREMONY WITH THE HAVE ANY GRACE COLORED HIGH SCHOOL ON 1028. AND THAT WAS REALLY EXCITING TO BE THERE FOR THAT MOMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF THE HEAVENLY GRACE COLORED SCHOOL, WHICH CARRIES A LOT OF PRIDE IN OUR COMMUNITY. UM AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT HISTORY ISN'T WASHED AWAY THE TIME DOCTOR STANSBURY AND ALL THE WORK OF THE STAFF AND THE STUDENTS OF THE COLORED SCHOOL SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE RECOGNIZED. SO THAT WAS GREAT. I WAS THERE WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTI. UM AND SO THAT WAS A REALLY NICE DAY, WITH BEAUTIFUL WEATHER CONTINUING TO BE PART OF THE VEHICLE HEIGHT MONITOR WORK GROUP. UM YOU KNOW THAT WORK IS MOVING, SLOW AND STEADY. I'M HOPING TO HAVE LEGISLATION SOON THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO PUT VEHICLE HEIGHT MONITORING SYSTEMS IN PLACE IN HARTFORD COUNTY. UM WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY TO KEEP TRUCKS OFF OF ROADS WHERE THEY DON'T BELONG. UM UH. AND IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE LIBRARY FOUNDATION GALA THIS PAST WEEKEND, WHICH WAS, UM IT WAS A NICE EXPERIENCE. IT WAS GOOD TO SUPPORT OUR LIBRARIES AND LIBRARY WORKERS FOR ALL THAT THEY DO. I KNOW THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING LEGISLATION TO GIVE OUR COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND 1.5% COLA. UM AND I'M I KNOW OUR LIBRARY WORKERS AREN'T CONSIDERED IN THAT AND HOPEFULLY OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE COULD SEE WITH, YOU KNOW, A SLIGHT, UH HIGHER THAN EXPECTED, UH, SURPLUS IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET

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SHE DOES. UM AND SO I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT COMES NEXT FOR HER AND ALL THE WAYS THAT SHE SUPPORTS HARTFORD COUNTY. UM AND JUST HER DOING, HARFORD LEADERSHIP ACADEMY AND ME NOT IS LIKE EXHIBIT Z OF HOW SHE IS OFTEN TIMES BETTER THAN ME. SO THANK YOU, HEATHER. UM AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO YOU KNOW, IT'S PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE SO IMPORTANT AND I LEARN A LOT. UM I HAD HAD PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES AFTER THE AH LISTENING SESSION IN BOSTON.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT CAREFULLY. BUT WHEN YOU PUT THE NUMBERS TOGETHER LIKE THAT REALLY PAINTS A PICTURE OF HOW DESPERATELY IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S MONEY THAT THE COUNTY CAN BRING IN THAT OFTEN TIMES DOESN'T EVEN IMPACT. OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT'S BEING PAID BY ALICE STATE DEVELOPERS AND SO ADDRESSING THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE AND THAT WAY, BUT THEN ALSO IN COMMENT FROM MR WHELAN ABOUT THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND OUR FUNCTION AS THE BOARD OF APPEALS AND HOW THAT COMPARES TO OTHER COUNTIES. I ALWAYS FIND THOSE COMPARISONS SO HELPFUL BECAUSE, LIKE WE ARE IN OUR BUBBLE AND THEN OUR WORK. BUT TO LOOK OUTSIDE OF THAT TO SEE HOW OTHER PLACES ARE OPERATING, I THINK GIVES US A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT BEST PRACTICE SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND BE LIKE, UM, SO I'LL BE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THAT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO SEE YOU KNOW, HOW WAS THE SET UP ACROSS THE STATE? AND WHAT DO OTHER COUNTIES LOOK LIKE ? UM TO SEE IF HARFORD COUNTY NEEDS TO CHANGE, AND IF SO, HOW? SO? I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS TONIGHT AS WELL, THAT'S ALL FOR ME TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. MS SADDLES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. UM AS WE KNOW, VETERANS DAY IS ON SATURDAY AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK ANY SERVICE MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. AND WE DO HONOR YOU THIS VETERANS DAY AND ALWAYS THANK YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, MR MODELS. MR RILEY? YES, I WANT TO THANK COMMANDER HERMANN SQUYRES FOR THE 22ND HONOR GUARD ANNIVERSARY FOR THE M S FIRE WARD CEREMONY. UM. GREAT WORK THAT THOSE FOLKS DO ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COMPANY HUMPTY DUMPSTER FOR THE EMPTY STOCKING FUN 150 BICYCLES, THE DUMPSTER FOR TOYS. AND THEN LASTLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TROIA ROAD, ESPECIALLY MY RESIDENCE AND DISTRICT D. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE COUNTY TO HURRY UP ON THAT ROAD AND WE GOT IT A MONTH EARLIER BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE INTERSECTION THERE AND, UH, BLACK WORSE. SO THANK THE COUNTY FOR THAT. AND I DO ALSO APPRECIATE OUR VETERANS. NOT ONLY HERE TONIGHT BUT IN HARTFORD COUNTY, AND, UH, USA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR RYLAND. MR MR GUTHRIE. COME. YOU JUMPED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END. YOU FORGOT. TONY YES, G WE'RE COMING BACK THIS WAY. YOU'RE COMING BACK? YES. LET US KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR DIRECTION. UM COUPLE OF THINGS. I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE

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EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON THERE AND THEY SAID SHE TOLD ME AND MR GUTHRIE, EVERYTHING YOU TOLD US AH, IT'S TRUE AND MORE SO. THAT THERE ARE VIOLATIONS GALORE THERE AND THAT WE INTEND TO BRING UP SUIT WITH THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE CAN FIND THESE CONTRACTORS UP TO $100,000 PER INCIDENT. AND SHE SAID, THERE IS ALL KINDS OF INCIDENTS WITH THIS RUNOFF. UM AND THE BIG THING CAME FROM IN 2017 THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION SENT AN AMENDMENT OVER TO THIS COUNCIL THAT COUNCIL THEN TO STRIKE THE 20 ACRE REQUIREMENT THAT WAS IN THE LAW. THE 20 ACRE REQUIREMENT WAS THAT ANY CONSTRUCTION IN THE COUNTY THAT WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING HOUSES OR WHATEVER THEY'RE BUILDING THEY CAN ONLY BUILD ON THE 1ST 20 ACRES AT A TIME. WHEN AT 20 ACRES DONE, THEY CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT. WELL UM, SOMEHOW THE MINISTRATIONS SENT OVER AMENDMENT. AND THEY OF A 55 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT TELLS YOU ALL ABOUT ALL THE AH, WORDS THEY USE IN THE COUNTY AND DEFINITIONS. SOMETHING LIKE STARTS OFF WITH ACCOUNTING AND GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LINE, YOU KNOW, WAY UP TO Z AND IT'S 57 PAGES SOMEWHERE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, THERE'S THIS LITTLE WORD. IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN ONLY CONSTRUCT 20 ACRES AT A TIME. WELL THE AMENDMENT CAME OUT FROM THE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION ACROSS THE STREET TO STRIKE THAT 20 ACRES OUT OF THAT, AND OF COURSE, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE. BUT THEY STRUCK IT AND WHAT HAPPENS THAT TURNED OUT TO BE THIS THIS BIG CONSTRUCTION JOB ON 152 WHERE THIS GUY IS CONSTRUCTING. 100 ACRES AND 388 HOUSES. SO INSTEAD OF JUST DOING 20 ACRES AT A TIME HE TORE DOWN THE WHOLE AREA AND THIS IS WHAT'S CAUSED US IN THE LAST TWO SUMMERS TO BE FLOODED WITH MUD AND COOK AND EVERYTHING IN OUR WATERWAYS IN JOPPATOWNE AND RAMSEY ON AND THE GUNPOWDER RIVER ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE RAILROAD BRIDGE. IT SEEMS ALMOST INCREDIBLE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU COULD TAKE THAT HUGE BODY OF WATER AND TURNED THE WHOLE THING INTO A MUD BATH. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. HE'S BEEN ON HIM TOO. AND WE'VE HAD, UM AH, LOTS OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, CHECKING ALL THE ALL THE FOOTBALL RIVERS COMING DOWN AND ALL THE WATER COMING DOWN THE AREA AND ALL COMING FROM THERE, AND THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. SO I BRING IT UP NOW BECAUSE WE DID HAVE OUR IT WOULD JOPPATOWNE COMMUNITY BEING LAST NIGHT, WHICH WAS ALWAYS WELL ATTENDED. WE HAD ABOUT 40 OR 50 PEOPLE

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I'M A FIRM BELIEVER AND INVESTING IN OUR WORKFORCE. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO A BETTER JOB SPECIFICALLY MORE THAN 1.5% I THINK WE CAN DO IT AN EASIER JOB CONCENTRATING IF WE CONCENTRATE ON SMALL, SMALLER GOVERNMENT AND FOCUS ON SUCCESSFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MYSELF AND CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISOR ACTIVELY REVIEWING AND ANALYZING THE RECENT RELEASE OF THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE REPORT FOR FY 23. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING SOME CRITICAL CLARIFICATION, AND WE'LL HAVE AN EVALUATION OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I DID WANT TO COMMENT JUST ON ONE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WAS MENTIONED NO POINT THAT I'D SAY A. I WAS IN

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COUNCILOR IMPAIRMENTS. A VETERAN DEANA WHERE YOUR VETERAN, OKAY, WELL, I WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

COUNCILMAN PENMAN FOR HIS SERVICE. UM AND I WANT TO THANK MY DAD WAS A KOREAN WAR VET. MY SISTER WAS IN THE NAVY. MY BROTHER IN LAW WAS IN THE ARMY. MY NEPHEW IS ON A NUCLEAR BALLISTIC SUB. HE'S A NUCLEAR MISSILE TECH AND MY OTHER NEPHEW JUST LEFT THE NAVY. SO I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THE FAMILY. THAT WASN'T IN THE SERVICE. UM, BUT I WANT TO THANK ALL THE SERVICEMEN APPRECIATE ALL THEIR EFFORTS AND AH, SAD DAY. UM SAD TIME IS THAT GOLD BAKERY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE FOR GOOD. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REOPEN ONE OF MY CLIENTS FROM YEARS AGO. UM VERY DISAPPOINTING . I KNOW THEY TRIED HAD SOME HARD TIMES AND THINGS JUST WEREN'T DONE. BUT SORRY FOR THEIR CLOSING, AND I DO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS WENT UP 7% FOR THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES THIS PAST YEAR AND THE COUNTY ABSORBED ALL THAT COST. OKAY, SO I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING THE OTHER 1.5% BUT THERE WAS A 7. INCREASE IN THE COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE, AND IF ANYBODY'S IN THE PRIVATE MARKET, THEY KNOW WHAT THE COST OF HEALTH INSURANCE IS FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IT'S SIX TIMES EIGHT TIMES WHAT A COUNTY EMPLOYEE PAYS. UM A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THEY'VE NEVER HAD A BUSINESS OR WORK FOR THEMSELVES. THE AVERAGE COST FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IS ALMOST $3000 A MONTH FOR HEALTH INSURANCE. SO UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S ALMOST UNSUSTAINABLE. IF YOU'RE YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPANY THAT PAYS FOR IT, BUT THE COUNTY DID PAY THE 7% INCREASED LAST YEAR, SO YOU KNOW THAT IS PART OF A RACE SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR JAN GIORDANO. UM. AGAIN I'M GONNA START MY COMMENTS BY SAYING WHEN YOU LISTEN TO EACH ONE OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY'RE OUT EVERY DAY, UH, WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS CHECKING IN OUR BUSINESS IN ORDER BUSINESSES AND SUPPORTING THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. AND YOU KNOW. WE'RE BY

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