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HURRY. MY. GOOD EVENING CHAIR CALLS THE ORDER LEGISLATIVE SESSION DAY 24-006. I WOULD ASK

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YOU TO PLEASE JOIN US IN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE. THOUGHT BY THE OPENING PRAYER BY COUNCIL MEMBER BENNETT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND THE PUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. OH, THIS IS ANOTHER DAY. OH LORD, I KNOW NOT WHAT IT WILL BRING FORTH BUT MAKE ME READY FOR WHATEVER IT MAY BE IF I AM TO STAND UP, HELP ME STAND BRAVELY. IF I'M TO SIT STILL HELP ME TO SIT QUIETLY. IF I AM TO LIE LOW HELP ME TO DO SO PATIENTLY AND IF I AM TO DO NOTHING, HELP ME TO DO IT GALLANTLY MAKE THESE WORDS MORE THAN WORDS AND GIVE ME THE SPIRIT OF YOUR LOVE. AMEN. AMEN.

SOMETHING'S GOING ON HERE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT COUNSEL AT THIS TIME. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MR FALACCI AND THE Y MC YOUTH AND GOVERNMENT GROUP THAT'S WITH US THIS YEAR THIS EVENING. UH, COULD YOU PLEASE STAND RELIEF. THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. I HOPE IT WAS BENEFICIAL TO YOU AS IT WAS FOR US. SO, UH, THANK YOU. AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS.

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HIGH SCHOOL BOYS SOCCER STATE CHAMPION CLASS ONE A. THE SOLES. WANT TO INVITE THEM UP. COULD WE HAVE? UH PAUL DANIELLE, THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR. AND THE BOYS SOCCER STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 118 COME FORWARD, PLEASE. OH, YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THERE? WELL THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ROOM YOU'RE GONNA GET OUT WITH I WAS GONNA STAND UP. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA STAND UP HERE. WHY DON'T I WAIT TILL I GET DOWN HERE? I'LL SEE YOU IN A MINUTE. HAIL TO THE COBRAS. OK? HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND PROCLAMATION BE IT HEREBY KNOWN THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARTFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND, ON THIS 20TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2024 RECOGNIZES AND CONGRATULATES HARTFORD TECHNICAL HIGH SCHOOL VARSITY BOYS SOCCER TEAM CLASS 18 STATE CHAMPIONS. ON THEIR DEDICATION, DILIGENCE AND COLLABORATION, WHICH RESULTED IN A SUCCESSFUL SEASON ENDING IN A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP WIN. CONGRATULATIONS. ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND DISTRICT E. I'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS PROCLAMATION. CONGRATULATIONS FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? YES I JUST WANNA SAY HOW PROUD I AM THE BOYS. YOU KNOW, TECH. IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SCHOOL. IT'S A SCHOOL WHERE KIDS WANT TO GO THERE, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY LIVE NEARBY. AND YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE WERE IN A NEW DIVISION ENCOUNTERED A LOT OF CHALLENGES, WITH KEY PLAYERS GETTING INJURED, UNFORTUNATELY IN THE SEASON, AND IT WAS THROUGH DETERMINATION AND GREAT AND HARD WORK THAT WE REACHED THE TOP OF THE TABLE HERE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, AND I THINK THAT REALLY REPRESENTS HARFORD TECH.

IT'S ABOUT GREAT AND DETERMINATION. THAT'S WHAT THAT SCHOOL IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S A SPECIAL SCHOOL AND I'M HONORED TO COACH THE TEAM. THANK YOU. BUT I HAVE TWO ROWS. PLEASE.

SOME PEOPLE. YEAH. YEAH. ONLY A YEAR, BUT. I MEAN, I. OH, THAT'S . HAVE YOU EVER NOTICED HOW I SEE. SURE. AND THEN EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT. I'M SORRY. NOT YOU GUYS. UH, MR PENTON. GUTHRIE.

YOU'RE. ALL THE WAY TO THE WALL. KEEP GOING. MR RILEY, CAN I HAVE YOU WITH STEP ONE OVER. V. JUST

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A BIT. PERFECT. UM GREAT. OK? ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS. ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY.

MAN CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THESE KEPT THE SECRET OF MY WIFE. I'M GONNA KILL HER. IF YOU JOIN YOU FOR DINNER. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I HEARD MORE OF THAT. I DON'T SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE. WE GOT TO GO. FOR PEOPLE.

NERVOUS. COOL. SO, COUNSEL. IF I MAY. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNTY EXECUTIVE CALEY IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, SIR. FOR COMING. FEBRUARY 2024 BLACK HISTORY MONTH, MR BENNETT. UH THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. UH, TONIGHT IN HONOR OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WE WOULD LIKE TO CELEBRATE THE HAPPY GRACE COLORED SCHOOL. UM IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO COME ON DOWN IN ANY REPRESENT REPRESENTATIVES WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THEM? WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH WAS FIRST RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY BY PRESIDENT GERALD R FORD IN 1976 DURING THE UNITED STATES BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION. PRIOR TO THIS OFFICIAL NATIONAL SELF CELEBRATION. CARTER B. WOODSON DESIGNATED THE SECOND WEEK OF FEBRUARY AS HISTORY WEEK IN 1926 . AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR A THEME IS ESTABLISHED FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH, THE THEME FOR 2024 IS AFRICAN AMERICANS AND THE ARCH, WHICH EXPLORES THE CREATIVITY, RESILIENCE AND INNOVATION FROM A CULTURE THAT HAS UPLIFTED SPIRITS AND SOOTHED SOULS IN COUNTLESS WAYS ACROSS CENTURIES.

IT ALSO PRES UN REPRESENTED. REPRESENTED IN WAYS ACROSS CENTURIES. UH STORIES OF THE RIGHTS OF PASSAGE AND A SHARED HOPES OF LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. AND WHEREAS IN 1910 HARTFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT ACQUIRED THE PARCEL OF LAND ON STOKES AND ALLI STREETS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING A GRAMMAR SCHOOL FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS IN HAVERTY GRACE, MARYLAND, IT WAS CALLED THE HAVER DEGREES COLOR SCHOOL AND BECAME ONE OF THE MORE THAN 14 GRAMMAR SCHOOLS FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN IN HARTFORD COUNTY DURING THE ERIE OF JIM CROW IN 19. THE COUNTY SELECTED THE SCHOOL TO BECOME THE FIRST PUBLIC SCHOOL FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS WITH WITH MR LEON STANSBERRY ROY SERVING AS PRINCIPAL AND THE FIRST CLASS GRADUATING IN 1932 IN 2019, THE PROPERTY WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE COMMUNITY PROJECTS OF HAVER GRAS FOUNDATION, THE HAVERTY GRACE COLORED SCHOOL MUSEUM AND CULTURAL CENTER, WHOSE MISSION IS TO REMEMBER, PROMOTE AND PRESERVE THE HISTORY AND LEGACY OF THE AVERAGE OF GRACE CO. SCHOOL NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARTFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND ON HIS 20TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2024 TO HEREBY RECOGNIZE BLACK HISTORY MONTH FEBRUARY 2024. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. AND UM, FOR JUST ALLOWING FOR US TO CELEBRATE YOU THIS YEAR AS A PART OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER INSTITUTION IN MY DISTRICT OR IN THE COUNTY TO CELEBRATE BLACK HISTORY THAN THE HAVE GRACE COLORED SCHOOL. UM, IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN VERY LUCKY TO COME TO SEVERAL OF YOUR EVENTS, INCLUDING THE LANGSTON HUGHES EVENT. UM THE JUNETEENTH EVENT THAT HAPPENED? UM UH, LAST LAST YEAR. UM WERE YOU ALL PLAYED TESTIMONIAL VIDEOS OF PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE SCHOOL AND GOT TO HEAR THEIR STORIES? UM AND YOU KNOW, NOT JUST NOW AS A MUSEUM BUT AS A AN EDUCATE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION. WHAT THE COLORED SCHOOL HAS DONE FOR HARTFORD COUNTY IS TREMENDOUS, AND I WANTED TO SHARE A QUOTE. THAT CAME UP WITH THE LANGSTON HUGHES EVENT IN TWO YEARS AGO BY UM CLAYTON C STANSBERRY, WHO IS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE COLORED

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SCHOOL, PT, A FOR HARTFORD COUNTY, AND HE SAID, NO PROGRESSIVE COMMUNITY CAN REMAIN PART LITERATE AND PART ILLITERATE. IGNORANCE IS A MENACE TO ANY PEOPLE AND SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED. SOME HAVE SAID IT WOULD COST THE COMMUNITY TOO MUCH MONEY TO EDUCATE ALL OUR CHILDREN. I REPLY TO THAT STATEMENT. WE WISH TO SAY THAT EDUCATION WILL NEVER COST THIS.

OR ANY COMMUNITY WERE IGNORANCE WILL IF THE LATTER IS PERMITTED TO PREVAIL. LET'S ALL JOIN HANDS IN HELPING TO MAKE THIS COUNTY ONE OF THE BEST COUNTIES NOT ONLY FOR THE STATE OF MARYLAND BUT IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES BY GIVING OUR CHILDREN THE BEST EDUCATION OBTAINABLE, AND I MEAN , I LOVE THAT QUOTE SO MUCH THAT AFTER THAT EVENT, I EMAILED YOU TO ASK FOR IT IN WRITING BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HOLD IT IN MY HANDS, AND IT'S ONE THAT I QUOTE OFTEN. UM AND THAT I MEAN TO THINK THAT WAS SOMEBODY WHO HAD FOUGHT YEARS TO GET A HIGH SCHOOL IN HARTFORD COUNTY. AND I MEAN THAT WAS BETWEEN WHEN THE WORK GROUP STARTED IN THE CITY TO THE FINISHING WAS LIKE FOUR YEARS TO GET THAT THERE AND WHAT A TREMENDOUS TREMENDOUS LEGACY FOR HIS FAMILY AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. SO THANK YOU FOR HOLDING ON TO THAT HISTORY AND NOT LETTING US LET IT GO AND NOT LETTING IT BE FORGOTTEN. SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS LIKE MISTER CLAYTON, C, STANSBURY AND MEN LIKE ABEL CROMWELL, WHO HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS. UH IN I.

THE FIRST PRINCIPLE OF THAT GRAMMAR SCHOOL THAT YOU HEARD OF THAT WAS, UH, BUILT, UM, IN IN THE 19 AROUND 1910, AND, UH, WE ARE PROUD OF OUR ACHIEVEMENTS AND PRESERVING THIS, UH, LITTLE KNOWN PIECE OF HISTORY, 100 AND 12 YEARS HISTORY THAT WE HAVE, UM, THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN BENNETT FOR, UM, ACKNOWLEDGING US ON THIS SPECIAL OCCASION. UH, PRESIDENT. UH VINCENTI. WE THANK YOU. OUR COUNTY. UH EXECUTIVE HAS BEEN REALLY A GREAT CHAMPION OF OURS. WE COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO PRESERVE THIS HISTORY AND THANK YOU. I HAVE. I'M TRYING ALL THE YEARS I RUN AWAY. OK? AWESOME. PAT. CONGRATULATIONS, KIDDO. SEE ANYBODY. IN COUNCIL. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE FORMER SHERIFF BAIN IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING. AT THIS TIME. MAY I HAVE GENERAL CONSENT TO MOVE TO ITEM FIVE A ON THE AGENDA AND RETURN BACK TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR. C THEREAFTER. THANK YOU. THE GIN ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS,

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]

APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS. HARFORD LIVING TREASURE. MR RILEY. YES I LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE DION GUTHRIE FOR, UH, HARTFORD COUNTY LIVING TREASURE.

OK? THANK YOU, MR JORDANO. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO RECOGNIZE, UM COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE AS A HARVARD LIVING TREASURE. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS, MR RILEY? I'LL MAKE MY COMMENTS DOWN ON THE FLOOR, MR PRESIDENT ANYONE ELSE? MISTER PENMAN. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, COUNCIL MC GUTHRIE. UM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN THE COUNCIL. YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COUNTY. UM WE BECOME FRIENDS. IN ADDITION TO COLLEAGUES, UH, IN YOUR IN YOUR INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE HERE HAS BEEN, UH, VERY HELPFUL TO ME AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. UH AND YOUR DEDICATION TO THE COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN. MISTER BENNETT. YOU KNOW, I JUST LIKE TO SAY BEING ON COUNTY COUNCIL. IS VERY HARD. EVEN AFTER A YEAR AND A FEW MONTHS CHANGE, IT'S HARD AND, UH, COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE HAS BEEN SHOWING UP CONSISTENTLY SINCE 2002. AND I THINK THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO HIS COMMITMENT TO HIS COMMUNITY THAT EVEN AFTER 23

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OR 22 YEARS OF HAVING PEOPLE SHOW UP HERE TO YELL AT YOU, YOU STILL GO. I WANNA DO THAT AGAIN.

SO YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO HARTFORD COUNTY FOR ALL THESE YEARS. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. MR JANE JORDANO. I'M GOING TO MAKE MY COMMENTS LATER, TOO DOWN KIND OF FRONT. THE SADDLES. UM CONGRATULATIONS. COUNCILMAN GOT GUTHRIE. AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HELP THAT YOU GIVE ME. AS A VETERAN, YOU'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND I CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON YOU TO GIVE ME THE ADVICE OR HELP I NEED SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU, MISS SADDLES. AND IF I MAY I HAVE TO COMMENT ON BEING ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT'S HAD THE PLEASURE AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE WITH TWO OF THE OLDEST COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH SINCE WE BECAME CHARTER GOVERNMENT, MR WAGNER IN THE AUDIENCE. AND MR GUTHRIE. AND I WANT TO THANK THEM BOTH FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP FOR THEIR INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO COLLABORATE AND WORK TOGETHER WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.

AND WITH THAT UM M DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR GUTHRIE. I. MISTER P. MR JORDANO, MR. RILEY MRS. B, MR. BENNETT, YOU'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE. THE APPOINTMENT OF DION GUTHRIE. DION F GUTHRIE AS A HARVARD LIVING TREASURE IS HEREBY APPROVED. AGENDA. ITEM

[4.c. Harford Living Treasure]

NUMBER FOUR C. HARFORD LIVING TREASURE. UM. NOT BEING KEPT CONFIDENTIAL IN MY NOTES ANYMORE . EVERYBODY KNOWS. UH, MR RILEY, WOULD YOU TAKE THE FLOOR, PLEASE? MR GUTHRIE, WOULD YOU INVITE YOUR FAMILY UP FRIENDS? THERE'S A LOT OF THEM HERE, WHICH WHERE THEY CAME FROM. I'M UH MR. I'M NOT SHOCKS. GOT ME. YOU DRESS FOR MY WIFE'S GOING TO GET IT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA READ NOW, DION, SO THAT MEANS YOU NEED TO BE YOU COMING UP. OK? A ST ORNAMENT. AND, UH, MY, UH DAUGHTER AND MY SON. AND WE'LL BRING EVERYBODY UP FOR WHAT ABOUT. SNUCK OUT AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE EMPTY HE ASK, WHY ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE SO LAID OFF FOR THE BANK ANYWAY? OK? YOU KNOW? DO IT. YOU'RE THE. ONE I KNOW THAT TA TA THERE YOU ARE. INJURED IN WHEREAS DNF GUTHRIE RECEIVED THE HARTFORD COUNTY CULTURAL ARTS BOARD RECOMMENDATION TO THE HARTFORD COUNTY COUNCIL FOR RECOGNITION AS A HARTFORD LIVING TREASURE. AND WHEREAS ME, MISTER GUTHRIE MOVED TO HARTFORD COUNTY IN 1966 , HE AND HE AND HIS WIFE, DIANA, HAVE SIX CHILDREN, FOUR GRANDCHILDREN AND TWO GREAT GRANDSONS. HE WAS ELECTED IN 2002, 2006, 2010 AND 2022 TO SERVE AS HARTFORD COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTING DISTRICT A, WHICH INCLUDES ABINGDON, EDGEWOOD, JPA, JPA TOWN AND MAGNOLIA. COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE HAS ALSO SERVED ON MANY ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES. HARTFORD CABLE NETWORK ADVISORY BOARD COMMUNITY MEDITATION COMMISSION, AUDIT COMMITTEE AND BOARD OF GREATER EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION FOUNDATION. AND WHEREAS COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE INTRODUCED A BILL TO REDUCE THE ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES ORDINANCE FROM 120% TO 105, WHICH DICTATES THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE SCHOOL CROWDING BEFORE BUILDING PERMITS ARE DENIED HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE REPLACEMENT OF OUTDATED, OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT AND FOR THE ADDITION OF A SPECIAL NEEDS RAMP AT JOB TOWN HIGH SCHOOL. AND WHEREAS MR GUTHRIE WAS INVOLVED IN CLOSING DOWN THE INCINERATOR PLANT ON MARYLAND ROUTE 152 BETWEEN EDGEWOOD AND JIT TOWN, WHICH WAS CAUSING AIR POLLUTION, HE WAS ALSO APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR AND COMMISSIONED ADMIRAL OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY FOR HIS MARITIME SUPPORT FOR THE PROTECTION AND CLEAN UP AT THE CHESAPEAKE BAY AND HIS VOLUNTEER. WITH SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN NOW, THEREFORE WE , THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARTFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND, ON HIS 20TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2024 DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DION F GUTHRIE, HARTFORD. LIVING TREASURE AND BE IT FURTHER KNOWN THAT HIS LIFETIME EXPERIENCE AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO HARTFORD COUNTY COMMUNITY WILL PROVIDE A PERMANENT RECORD, WHICH WILL RECALL THE PAST INFORM THE PRESENT AND GUIDE THE FUTURE OF HARTFORD COUNTY. AND THAT IS MEMORIES AND HISTORY WILL RECORD WILL BE RECORDED BY HARTFORD COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY ORAL HISTORIAN AND WILL BE BECO BECOME PART OF THE ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION TO THE LIBRARY.

COUNCIL. IF COUNCILMAN UH GIORNO. JOIN ME HERE. THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS. FIRST OFF

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ME AND TONY. WE TRY TO LOOK AROUND THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING FOR HARFORD'S LIVING LEGEND, AND THERE WAS NO SUCH TITLE. SO UH, WE SELL WITH HARFORD COUNTY'S LIVING TREASURE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, ON BEHALF OF ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, IN FACT, I THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE MORE FOLKS COME UP, BUT WHO KNOWS? UM WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU, DION.

JUST SOME THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW. UH DION WAS HONORED AND BEEN NOMINATED TO CARRY THE OLYM. TORCH DOWN, UH, THROUGH DOWNTOWN BALTIMORE FOR THE 2002 WINTER, UH, GAMES IN SALT LAKE CITY, AND ALSO YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND PRIVILEGE TO DRIVE CAL RIPKEN AROUND CAMDEN YARDS IN BALTIMORE ON THE DAY OF CAL'S RETIREMENT. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING THAT DION DID WAS IN 1966. AND THAT'S WHEN HE MARRIED DIANA AND SO. OH, HE MOVED HERE IN 66. I WAS BORN IN 61, SO I DON'T THINK THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHAT DO I KNOW? THEY HAVE FOR ALL OF US. UH THOSE WERE A LOT OF US THAT ACHIEVEMENTS THAT HE DID AS COUNTY COUNCILMAN AND OTHER THINGS HE DID FOR SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT ALSO IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IS, UH, 91 YEAR OLD MOTHER-IN-LAWS LIVING WITH YOU. YOU'RE TAKING 98. OK 90 YOUR OLD MOTHER IN LAW. IS SHE HERE? OK AND ALSO HE HAS A GRANDSON THAT HE TAKES CARE OF, AND SO ME AND TONY I. I JUST GOT THEM AT DION. MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THAT I'M JUST KIDDING FROM THE DAY I KNOW MANY, MANY TIMES AS WE CAMPAIGNED TOGETHER, UH, HE WAS IN THE OPPOSITE PARTY. BUT WE STILL BECAME FRIENDS AND LOVED EACH OTHER. AND HIS, UH, PRECIOUS WIFE, DIANA. UH BUT DIANE, I MEAN, UH, DI, ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I THINK DISTRICT NOT IS, UH, SPECIAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE DION AND ELECTED HIM SO MANY TIMES, AND HE'S DONE SO MUCH FOR THEM. SO DION, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE HARDY HARTFORD COUNTY COUNCIL, ALL OF US, NOT JUST ME AND TONY, WE WANNA GIVE YOU THIS PROX PROCLAMATION AS A LIVING TREASURE. SO TONY, IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IF I DON'T GET FALL, COME ON UP HERE TO WE WILL. WE WILL HOLD UP. STICK WITH THE PROGRAM. DIANA SHE WANTS TO BE IN CHARGE. I UNDERSTAND. SO HERE IF YOU HOLD THAT, AND SO IF YOU'LL GET A PICTURE OF US ALL RIGHT. TO I GOT SO. YEAH YOU DO. AND I'M ON THAT TO SAY A FEW HOURS. AND IF YOU INTRODUCE OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE WE'LL GET YOU. THIS HASN'T WORKED TOO WELL DOES IT? IT'S WORKING. I. I MET DION.

PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS, UH, I. I MEET HIM UP AT LIBS. I DON'T THINK THINGS WORKING OR NOT. SO IT IS. OK SO I IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO GET TO KNOW DION TO WORK WITH DION.

HERE, UM I THINK NOBODY REALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW MUCH WORK WE PUT INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND IT'S I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, I'VE HAD PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL THAT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE ROBERT WAGNER, DION GUTHRIE, AND AS I SAID BEFORE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SOMEBODY LIKE DION WAS OFF FOR A LOT AND THEN CAME BACK ON. SO ONE OF MY PUSHES BEFORE WAS THAT. HEY YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA COME BACK. THE COMMUNITY WANTED DEION. THERE WAS OTHER PEOPLE THAT RAN AGAINST DION AND DION. WEALTH AND KNOWLEDGE. WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I LIKE THAT WE ARGUE, WE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE GET ALONG AND HE'S DIRECT.

I'M DIRECT. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM WHEN DION WAS SICK, I CAME OUT STOPPED TO SEE HIM. OF COURSE HE WAS. HE WASN'T AROUND. HE WAS OUT BACK AND I DROPPED HIM OFF DONUTS. I SHOULD HAVE SAID DION. I STOPPED AND I TOOK THE DONORS WITH ME. BUT ANYWAY, SO I'M GLAD HE'S HE'S HEALTHY AND FINE AND GLAD TO SEE YOU, TOO, AS WELL. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE. UH, MR CAS. I THINK HE'D LIKE TO SAY A WORD WORD OR TWO, AND HE'S GOT SOMETHING FOR YOU. BUT YOU HAVE THE REST OF THIS MOVIE. I GOOD TO SEE YOU, MY FRIEND, UM YEAH, I, I WE GOT A CITATION FOR YOU. IT'S ODDLY IT SORT OF MIRRORS. WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES FUNNY HOW THAT ALWAYS WORKS OUT. UM SO YOUR DN I CAME. WE REALLY MET IN EARNEST . UH, WE BOTH CAME ON AS FRESHMAN COUNCIL MEMBERS. BACK IN 2002. WE HAD A HEAVY LINE UP ON THAT SIDE OF THE DA IS WITH ME, RONNIE, CHENOWETH AND DION. UM, IT WAS, UH P ROB WAGNER OUT THERE WHO WAS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT WHO WAS KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH THAT PIECE, I THINK, BUT IT WAS IT WAS GOOD

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TIMES. UM DION, YOU KNOW, I. I CAN'T THINK OF ANYBODY WHO'S FOUGHT AS HARD OR HARDER THAN YOU HAVE, UH, TO SUPPORT. UH, A TOWN EDGEWOOD AND REALLY HARTFORD COUNTY IN GENERAL, UH, FOR SO MANY YEARS ON THE COUNCIL OFF THE COUNCIL ON THE COUNCIL, UM, YOU YOU YOU'VE REALLY BEEN A STELLAR LEADER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. UM A ALONG WITH YOUR COURAGEOUS WIFE. UM UH, YOUR YOUR YOUR LOVELY BRIDE. UM AND I JUST ON BEHALF OF THIS IS HARFORD COUNTY. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR ALL OF US FOR SO MANY YEARS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MANY MORE.

UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. I READ THIS. I AIN'T GET THAT MICROPHONE BACK. I NEED TO. I NEED TO, UH, I NEED TO READ THIS . UH, OF COURSE. I'VE BEEN CALLING PEOPLE REALLY? I'M THE CHIEF OF BEING SNEAKY. THANK YOU , JIM. YOU MORE THAN WELCOME. I KEPT IT QUIET. I GOT IN TROUBLE ON THEN HE SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON MY PHONE? I? I COULDN'T THINK OF ANY AS I KNOW. WHAT ARE YOU HIDING? I WANNA JUST SAY THIS, UH, ONE OF A DEAR FRIEND OF OURS THAT WE MET. FOR UM, THE COUNTY COUNCIL. UH, HE WAS A PRESIDENT AT THAT TIME HE SENT.

OF COURSE I CONTACT HIM. HE'S IN KRAKOW, POLAND. AT THIS TIME, SO HE SAID, I WANNA SEND SOMETHING I SAID, WELL, SEND IT IN MY BIRTH A BIRTHDAY CARD. DON'T PUT YOUR ADDRESS ON IT. PUT IT WITH A KISS. HE'LL THINK IT'S MY COUSIN. SO YOU WANNA READ THIS, DION? OK YEAH, IT'S UH, BEARD DION. IT'S WITH GREAT REGRET THAT I MISS YOUR CELEBRATION. AND I WITH ALL MY LOVE, AND IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT SOMEBODY IS RECOGNIZED YOU AND NOT KEEP BEATING YOU UP. I AM IN KRAKOW, POLAND, AND YOU HAVE REACHED ME AT THIS TIME. I WILL SEE YOU WHEN I GET HOME. YOU HAVE BEEN A LIVING TREASURE TO ME PERSONALLY FOR 34 YEARS NOW, AND IT'S ABOUT THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY CAUGHT UP WITH WITH US, UH, NOT FOR THE FIRST TIME, EITHER. CONGRATULATIONS UH, ON THIS WONDERFUL, UH, RECOGNITION THAT YOU WILL BE GETTING AND I WANT DIANE TO READ THIS, UH, AT THE MEETING SINCERELY, JEFFREY WILSON. SO HE WAS A GREAT GUY LOVING AND. ANYWAY I THINK I RUINED EVERYTHING I TOUCH I RUIN OK, SO YEAH. I CRIED LIKE A BABY WHEN YOU DID THIS AND EVERYBODY ELSE AND I'M JUST SO THRILLED. I KNOW MICHELLE AND SHE'S CRIED TOO. SO UH, WITH THIS, I THANK EVERYONE AND ANYBODY WANT? THIS IS THIS IS BEYOND YOU SPEAK DEAD. AND YOU, TONY. WHEN TONY SAYS HANDS GUTHRIE TO MIKE, HE JUST CRINGES INSIDE. I KNOW HE JUST WELL. WELL YOU GOT ME SPEECHLESS AND TONY'S LOOK, HE'S APPLAUDING. I MEAN, UH UM. SURPRISE IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD.

SHAQ IS A BETTER ONE, YOU KNOW? AND I LOVE HER. LOOK AROUND THIS ROOM AND UP HERE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HEAR, UM YEAH, AND SHE IS RIGHT OVER HERE. UH, YEAH. AND UH, MY YACHT CLUB. UH UH, IN PROJECTS FROM FROM UH, WHY THEY'RE HERE IS, I GUESS, UH, I WAS, UH COMMODORE OF THE CHESAPEAKE YACHT CLUBS ASSOCIATION. UH, PLUS, UH, TROJAN HARBOR. UH, BEFORE THAT, AND, UH THE, UH AND THE GOVERNOR RECOGNIZED ME AS ADMIRAL OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY. UH, FOR WHAT WE DID. WHEN I WAS COMING, WE TOOK, UH, WE TOOK ABOUT 35 BOATS DOWN TO THE HARBOR AND, UH, TO GET ALL THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS AND TAKE THEM FOR A BOAT RIDE. SO WE GOT ABOUT 70 OR 80 SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN AND WE LOAD THEM UP ON A 35 BOATS, AND WE TOOK THEM FOR A THREE HOUR CRUISE AROUND THE HARBOR, THE OUTSIDE AND THE GOVERNOR RECOGNIZING I GOT A PLAQUE OF HANGING IN MY BASEMENT FOR ADMIRAL DE DEBATE. UM BUT, UH UH, THAT THAT JUST FOR YACHT CLUB IS, BY THE WAY IS THE POLITICAL ARM OF THE VOTERS, AND NOT ONLY STATE OF MARYLAND, BUT IT'S FIVE STATE AREA WHERE IT'S ALL THE STATES THAT ATTACH TO THE CHESAPEAKE BAY AND WE HAVE ABOUT. UH UH UH TO I WHEN I WAS COMING. WE HAD ABOUT 100 AND 30 CLUBS WHICH HAD ABOUT 50,000 MEM. UH, MEMBERS, UH, COVERED THE FIVE STATE AREA SO UM, THIS IS CERTAINLY AN HONOR PRIVILEGE. UH, I NEVER EXPECTED. YOU REALLY

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KNEW HOW TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HOLD IT TO MY LAST DAY. YOU KNOW, UH, ON THE COUNCIL WHEN I RESPECT THEY PROBABLY WOULD DO SOMETHING TO ME. BUT UH, I JUST WANT TO TELL ROB WAGNER THAT DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR 20 YEAR. UH, ANNIVERSARY BECAUSE, UH, I'M NOT GOING AFTER IT. OK I'LL HAVE MY 16 YEAR OLD, UH, IN AT THE END OF THIS, UH IN THE, UH, OF COURSE. I DID SAY THAT THE LAST TIME I WASN'T RUNNING AGAIN. I RETIRED FROM THE JOB, BUT, UH UH, PEOPLE CAME AROUND AND SAID, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE. NOW YOU YOU'RE YOU'RE RETIRED FROM THE JOB. LET'S RUN BACK. YOU CAN DO THIS FULL TIME, YOU KNOW, AND BELIEVE ME. THIS IS FULL TIME. I'LL TELL YOU, UM BUT BOB AND THE TERRY WILL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW THAT I'M ON THERE. UH, TELEPHONE OR EMAIL THEM, YOU KNOW, AND DRIVING THEM NUTS. UH, UH AND IF I GO AROUND HERE, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T. THEN MY SON IN LAW'S SONNY HERE. UM UH, MY DAUGHTER'S MY DAUGHTER, MICHELLE , THIS IS MY SISTER, ELLEN. UH, TA CUT. WE HAVE A FACT THAT THERE WAS FOUR OF US. AND UNFORTUNATELY MY OTHER TWO SISTERS, UH, HAVE PASSED AWAY AND WE'VE OUTLIVED THEM. YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE WE NEVER SMOKED. THAT'S FUNNY TO BRING IT UP AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO MY, UH, MOTHER ALSO, BUT, UM, UH, IF YOU LOOK AROUND HERE, THIS IS ALL MY FRIENDS. AND UH UH, DANNY JOHN WAY BACK THERE. UH HE HE NEEDS TO BE HONORED. HE HE HE'S GOT. HE'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST VOLUNTEERS IN THE IN IN THE DISTRICT. A HE HAS SPENT 35 YEARS OF REPRESENTING, UH, DISTRICT A IN ON THE FOOTBALL. AND UH UH, COACHING TEAMS, EVERYTHING ELSE HIM AND HIS WIFE AND HIS FAMILY. THEY BASICALLY RUNNING, UH, THE JOB OF TOWN REC COUNCIL. UH, AND I KNOW HE'S UH, GIVE HIM A HAND. UH UH. SO AGAIN , SEE, TONY, YOU GOT ME. UH SO I I'VE LOST TRACK OF, UH, WHERE I'M AT. BUT ANYWAY YEAH. IT WAS GREAT SERVING ON THE COUNCIL FROM 2002 TO 2014. WE GOT A LOT DONE. UM UH, I FOUGHT WITH THE THOSE TWO COUNTY EXECUTIVES LIKE CRAZY. I'M NOT FIGHTING WITH THIS ONE. WE AT LEAST WE HAD SOME TIME ON THE COUNCIL TOGETHER, SO WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN, UH, HE GOT TAPPED ON THE SHOULDER OF BEING A JAG. YOU KNOW, HE, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT? JACK IS A LAWYER WHO I GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO, AND THEY TAPPED HIM AND SENT HIM TO WAS IT IRAQ? WAS IT IRAQ, WASN'T IT? YEAH FOR THREE YEARS. AND UH, OF COURSE I KNOW YOU WHEN YOU GO OVER THERE AS AS A, UH UH UH UH, AS A JAG YOU GET ASSIGNED TO SOMEBODY NOT OUT THERE, BUT YOU GET ASSIGNED SOME HUGE PERSON OR SOME, UM, POLITICIAN OR WHATEVER THAT'S GOING OVER THERE AND THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO REPRESENT THEM. SO UH, NOW BOB DOESN'T WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHO HE REPRESENTED. HE'S GOT THIS, UH, SMILE ON HIS FACE. SO, UM. SHOULD I, BOB, YOUR FACE IS GETTING RED. SO I SHOULD I NOT SAY NOTHING, UH, LET YOU GUESS. BUT THE ONLY HINT I'LL GIVE YOU, UH, WAS A WOMAN. WHAT'S THE HINT? I GOTTA GIVE A HINT, HUH? I'M SURE I'M SURE. AT LEAST THREE OF YOU UP HERE KNOW ANYWAY, SO, UH, I. I KNOW IN. UH UH. YEAH MY EIGHT. I INHERITED ALL HER FROM FROM MY WAGNER TO BE, UH, TO AND LETTING WAY OUT DOWN THE END. THAT WAS MY, UH, THAT'S MY WE GOT, MIKE. WE GOT EVERYBODY HERE, SO I DON'T WITH, UH, NOTHING MORE TO LEFT TO SAY. BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO BEHAVE MYSELF BEFORE TONY BEATS ME UP. UH, HOLD ON. ONE MINUTE. I KNOW WHY HE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE HIM THE MIC BECAUSE HE NEVER SHUTS UP. YES. IT. UM I'M NOT. I'M THE ONLY ONE. PROBABLY MY SIDE OF THE FAMILY IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES NOT CALL HIM. DION. I DON'T KNOW WHY MY PARENTS NAMED HIM DION WHEN THEY ALWAYS CALLED HIM. DON, SO DON OR DONNIE? UM BUT, UH, MY FRIENDS, THEY SAY WHO'S DION? BUT HE IS REAL NAME. SO I'M HONORED TO BE HERE. BUT IT JUST OH, EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD BAIL OUT. BUT WE KNEW THIS DAY WAS COMING. NO YEAH, IT UH, CONGRATULATIONS. WE'RE HAPPY FOR YOU. AND YOU'VE DONE A LOT FOR THE COUNTY AND CERTAINLY FOR THE OUR FAMILY, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD

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OF YOU AT THIS MOMENT IS VERY PROUD. WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD THAT THAT YOU'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR THIS LONG. THANK YOU. JESSE JESSE. THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU GUYS GO. I THINK THEY WANT TO GET A PICTURE. WE JUST PUT OUT ALL THE POLITICIANS IN THERE, BUT ONE NO, WE NEED TO YOU.

YEAH, WE TOOK THE I TOOK VIDEO OF YOU. I'LL GO IN THE BACK BEHIND YOU. IS THAT OK? POSSIBLY YEAH. I DON'T GO ANYWHERE. TT. IN YOUR CHILDREN. GO THERE A THE . MICHAEL JACKIE AND I'LL HAVE A LITTLE. I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT MUCH MORE YOU TO FRONT. PLEASE SWITCH PLACES.

A SHOT. HERE. JUST A TAD, PLEASE. AND I KNEW. I'LL GONNA BE SMALL. YOU.

OK? AWESOME. THANK YOU. I. JUST BE. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY MUCH. I'M NOT GONNA.

LEAVE YOU. ALL.

RIGHT? YOUNG.

I GOT. THAT GUY. THANK YOU. OH, OH, OK. WITH MY HAIR. OH, YEAH. I FOR YOU, MA'AM. STILL GOING ON. SMILE. RIGHT? OH, YEAH, THAT WAS FUN WITH DION. HE WAS REALLY UPSET. UPSET I LOOK AT LAST WEEK WE. I CAN STAND. OH, YOU GOT ME ON MY BACK. THANKS A LOT. HEY JIMMY TISSUES. YOU'RE THE CAR.

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SO IF I COULD HAVE EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, PLEASE. WE'D LIKE TO MOVE ON. CUT MY GROUP UP. YOU'RE

[6. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS]

DOING GOOD AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. HARTFORD TV FOUNDATION FACING ADDICTION IN HARTFORD COUNTY. A COMMUNI COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, MR MATHIS. MHM. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. PRESIDENT I JUST NEED TO COMMENT TO MY FRIEND DION, WHO I'VE SERVED ON A BOARD WITH 25 YEARS. THAT WAS THE SECOND BIGGEST CROWD AFTER TAYLOR SWIFT TICKETS.

CONGRATULATIONS SIR. HOW YOU DOING? UH, PRESIDENT VICENTE. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ARE GOOD TO BE HERE. I'M JOINED BY THE HARTFORD TV EXECUTIVE KELLY JARRA, WHO WAS A CREDIT TO GOVERNMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. I I'M, A VOLUNTEER BOARD MEMBER OF THE HARPER TV FOUNDATION. DON CAN I GET YOU TO PULL THAT MICROPHONE? JUST A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. SO KELLY KELLY JAR IS JOINED HERE. I THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT IN SANE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM IT'S IRONIC I'LL BE BRIEF. I HAD MY PHYSICAL TODAY WITH MY DOCTOR AT UPPER CHESAPEAKE. I TALKED TO A DOCTOR AND TWO DIFFERENT NURSES, AND ALL OF THEM RAISED THE ISSUE OF THE DRUG CRISIS IN HARTFORD COUNTY. AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE IS FAMILIAR WITH IT. AND UM , IT JUST SHOWS UH THAT IT IT IS PERVASIVE. WE'RE DOING A LOT TO MAKE IT BETTER ON ALL FRONTS. BUT WE CAN DO MORE. SO IN WORKING WITH WITH KELLY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FOUNDATION, WE DECIDED WE WOULD DO A TELEVISION SHOW AT THE CULTURAL CENTER AT THE OPERA HOUSE IN HAVERTY GRACE ON MARCH 13TH. I BELIEVE I EMAILED ALL OF YOU IN THE LAST DAY OR SO. AND AS AS, UH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, SUNNY SAID. IT'S FACING ADDICTION IN HARTFORD COUNTY, FINDING FACTS, SOLUTIONS AND HOPE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. UH WE'RE GONNA YOU KNOW, START AT 630. WE'LL GO LIVE ON THE AIR AT SEVEN, AND, UH, THE PROGRAM CONSIST OF BASICALLY THREE PANELS. WHAT THE STATUS OF DRUGS AND ADDICTION ISN'T HARTFORD COUNTY TO WHAT WORKS AND WHAT'S EFFECTIVE WITH THAT, AND THREE WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? HOW CAN EVERYBODY HELP? UH, I'VE GOT A GREAT ARRAY OF PANELISTS, UH, JUDGE MAHONEY FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT'S GOING TO SPECIALIZE. KIMBERLY JUSTICE FROM THE WORKFORCE BOARD NETWORK IS GONNA TALK. JONATHAN COHEN, WHO'S A MEDICAL PERSON AT PYRAMID HEALTH IN HARVARD IN HARTFORD COUNTY IN IN JOB IS GONNA BE ONE. WE HAVE A LOT OF SPONSORS. UH PART PANELISTS. RATHER WE HAVE THREE SPONSORS, SO IT'S NOT COSTING THE FOUNDATION ANYTHING. ADDICTION CONNECTION RESOURCES, WHICH IS IN F AND AS A SPONSOR, VOICES OF HOPE, WHERE I WORK IN ABERDEEN, MISS. IS A SPONS. AND PYRAMID HEALTHCARE. JPA IS A SPONSOR AND THEY'RE PUTTING UP THE MONEY FOR THIS SO THE GIST OF IT IS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE AND THE PROBLEM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE AND WHY WE CAN OFFER HOPE. AND UH, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO UM INTO THE WEEDS WITH RESEARCH ON THIS, BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY FINE, THOUGHTFUL, RIGOROUS, RIGOROUS EVALUATION OF WHAT HOPE MEANS TO A PERSON GETTING INTO RECOVERY, AND IT'S NOT SO MERRY FAIRY CONCEPT. IT'S SOMETHING CAN BE MEASURED. IT CAN BE INSTILLED AND IT CAN BE PROMOTED. SO IF YOU COME TO THE SHOW OR YOU WATCH IT ON ON ON HARFORD TV, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE PEOPLE WITH NEEDLES IN THEIR ARMS DYING. YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE UGLY WOUNDS FROM Z. I THE DRUGS. YOU'RE GONNA HEAR SUCCESS STORIES FROM SOME PEERS. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR WHAT WORKS AND WE'RE GOING TO OFFER SOME SOLUTIONS THAT CAN REALLY ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM. SO I, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME AND WATCH AND, UM IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD THING. I THINK THAT THE CULTURAL CENTER HOLDS 203 PEOPLE . I THINK WE HAVE 60 TICKET. HA 60 TICKET HOLDERS ALREADY. WE JUST WENT LIVE WITH THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS WEEK, SO THAT'S MY PITCH. THANK YOU. DON TWO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS JOKINGLY. I ASKED MR MATHIS IF HE WAS PREPARED FOR HIS PRESENTATION EARLIER THIS EVENING, AND HE SAID, UH, AFTER FIVE OR 600 TIMES, I THINK I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. YEAH I WAS TELLING KER KELLY FROM DAYS GONE BY WHEN YOU'VE HAD 10 KENNEDY, JOHN MCCAIN AND BARBARA MIKULSKI LOOKING AT YOU AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? UM THIS BECOMES MUCH EASIER AND MORE PLEASANT. WELL I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION. UH, TO ALL OF HARTFORD COUNTY. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO SEE YOU WORK AND WORK WITH YOU ON CERTAIN THINGS, AND WE WILL DO OUR PART IN PUSHING THIS OUT. OK COUNCIL? ANYONE ELSE? COMMENTS MR

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GUTHRIE? YEAH, DON. THANKS A LOT FOR BRINGING US TO ATTENTION, I. I CERTAINLY UH UH, WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT. I SIGNED UP. I'LL I'LL BE AT THE EVENT. THANK YOU. I KNOW, UH, DON AND I HAVE SERVED ON THE, UH UH, WORKFORCE INVESTMENT BOARD FOR C OF COUNTY FOR GOD KNOWS HOW MANY YEARS I KNOW I'VE BEEN ON IT NOW FOR OVER 25 YEARS ON THAT POOR I WAS ON IT BEFORE I GOT ON THE COUNCIL. UM BUT IT'S A IT'S A HARD WORKING BOARD. I PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST IN THE STATE AND THERE'S ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY. IT IS. IT'S A THIRD. IT IS 30 SOMETHING.

PULL OUT A BLOW ON THE BOARD OR ON THE BOARD IT JUST ABOUT ALL OF THEM COME TO THE MEETINGS BEFORE THE EPIDEMIC. YOU KNOW, WE HAD. UH BUT, YEAH, THANKS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND, UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO COME TO THAT MEETING AND LISTEN TO, UH, UH, AND SEE ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING, SO I KNOW YOU'RE DOING JUST WANT TO TAG ON TO THE WORKFORCE BOARD. ONE OF OUR PRESENT PRESENTERS IS KIMBERLY JUSTICE CT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THE SUSQUEHANNA WORKFORCE NETWORK. WE JUST GOT A GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR CALLED RECOVERY FRIENDLY WORKPLACES, AND WHAT THAT GRANT WILL DO IS THEY'LL HAVE A PERSON WHO'S A PURE PEER SPECIALIST THAT THE WORKFORCE NETWORK GO TO EMPLOYERS SAY. CAN WE HELP YOU HIRE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL IN RECOVERY TO DO YOU HAVE ANY OF YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES WHO MAY HAVE PROBLEM SO WE CAN BE RESOURCED TO AND THREE WILL PROVIDE FREE NARCAN TRAINING TO THE EMPLOYEES. NARC IS A DRUG THAT REVERSES THE OPIOID OVERDOSE. COME TO THE LITTLE BOXES TWO DOSES EACH. IF YOU HAD TO BUY THAT AT A PHARMACY, IT WOULD COST YOU $42 FOR TWO DOSES. THIS PROGRAM WILL GIVE IT OUT FREE TO EMPLOYERS AND TRAIN THEM TO DO THAT. AND KIM KIMBERLY IS ONE OF OUR PRESENTERS ON OUR SESSION BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE SECOND DRUG PREVENTION GRANT. THAT'S JOB WORKFORCE RELATED THAT CY HAS GOTTEN WITH CECIL COUNTY. SO UM, THIS WILL NOT BE A WASTE OF ANYBODY'S TIME. IT'S GONNA BE A TIGHT HOUR. I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, MR PEN. UH, DON, THANK YOU, UH, IT WAS A PLEASURE MEETING YOU NOT ONLY TODAY, BUT WHEN WE HAD A MEETING WITH YOUR TEAM, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU HAVE, UM, HAVING THE EXPERIENCE I HAVE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT, 12 YEARS UNDERCOVER. UH, AND THEN EDUCATION OUTREACH. UH, WHICH IS PROBABLY JUST AS IMPORTANT. ABSOLUTELY SO, UM, YOUR TEAM.

UH, IS GOD SENT, UH, THE NARCAN YOU SPEAK OF? I'VE SEEN IT. UH I'VE SEEN IT WORK. I'VE SEEN IT.

SAVE LIVES. UM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO RECOVERY COUNCILMAN PIT. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN WHAT YOU SAID, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE'S BEEN AAA FALSE DICHOTOMY BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT IS THE LOCK THEM UP GUYS AND THE TREATMENT. PEOPLE ARE THE FUZZY HAIRED DO GOODER GUYS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER. WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. WE WANT SAFE COMMUNITIES. WE WANT HEALTHY COMMUNITIES AND WE CAN DO THAT. SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, ESPECIALLY YOUR UNDERCOVER WORK AND HOW CRITICAL THAT IS. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE IS WHEN PEOPLE AND GROUPS COME TOGETHER. PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES. POLICYMAKERS ELECTED OFFICIALS, PEOPLE OF FAITH, THE SCHOOLS LAW ENFORCEMENT. WHAT HAVE YOU NONPROFIT CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE. WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MISTER MATHIS. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN APPROVAL OF MINUTES

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

LEGISLATIVE DAY 24-006 FEBRUARY 13TH 2024. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES?

[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS]

THERE BEING NO CORRECTIONS STAND APPROVED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATIONS OF RESOLUTIONS RESOLUTION 004 24 THOROUGHBRED TRAINING FACILITY IN PERRYMAN WAS INTRODUCED LAST WEEK. MR BENNETT, YOU'LL SPEAK TO IT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THE ENTIRE COUNCIL SUPPORT ON THIS RESOLUTION TO LET THE STATE KNOW THAT WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF 97 ACRES BEING USED FOR HORSE TRAINING FACILITY. UM, RIGHT HERE IN IN. UM I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I WAS VERY THANKFUL THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE SENT A LETTER OF SUPPORT AND, UM AND LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW HE DID THAT TODAY . UM YOU KNOW, THESE 97 ACRES BEING TURNED INTO A HORSE TRAINING FACILITY. IT WON'T SOLVE THE LARGER SYS. SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT WE KNOW EXIST IN PERRYMAN. UM BUT IT'S A, UH, IT'S A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM TO ADDRESS A PIECE OF THAT, AND TO, UM, BRING SOMETHING REALLY POSITIVE. THE COMMUNITY. UM SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN SEE IT HAPPEN. AND BY PASSING THIS RESOLUTION, WE CAN LET THE STATE KNOW THAT HARTFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT STANDS IN UNISON IN SUPPORT OF, UH, OF THIS POSSIBILITY. SO UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S SUPPORT TONIGHT IN THIS, UH, RESOLUTION. AND I HEAR A MOTION, MR BENNETT. UM I, I MOVE THAT WE VOTE IN

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SUPPORT OF THE, UH, RESOLUTION. UH 004-24 MAY HAVE A SECOND. THANK YOU, MR RILEY. THEY MOVED IN A SECOND AND TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 004 24 ANY MORE DISCUSSION. MR GUTHRIE, UH, JUST TO PIGGYBACK, UH, EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN BENNETT SAID, UH UH, IN MY OTHER LIFE FOR 62 YEARS, I WAS, UH, INVOLVED IN A HORSE RACING INDUSTRY THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. UH WE SHOULD INSTALL THE BEDDING EQUIPMENT AND ALL THE RACE TRACKS ON THE GAMBLING SIDE. AND UM SO I. I KNOW A LOT ABOUT THOROUGHBREDS AND ABOUT, UH, RACING. UH AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS PARTICULARLY HARTFORD COUNTY. WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF HORSES UP HERE. THEY DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO GO SO FAR TO DO TRAINING. THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ABSOL. ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS. SO THIS CERTAINLY HAS MY FULL SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. ANYONE ELSE? MR PENMAN? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM I WANNA THANK UH, COUNCILOR BENNETT FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD THIS RESOLUTION SO WE CAN NOTIFY, UH, THE STATE, UH , IN THE TRAINING FACILITY, UH, THAT WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. I THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT ASSET, UH, TO OUR COMMUNITY, UH AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN PROPER RIGHTS, AND THIS IS A GREAT FIT. UM YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS, UH, THAT ARE ALL, UM, IN SUPPORT OF THIS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU, MR BEN. BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS COMING TO FRUITION. THANK YOU, MR PENMAN. I SEE NO ONE ELSE.

MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN MR. JORDANO MR. RILEY HI, MR BENNETT. YOU'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE RESOLUTION, 04 24 IS HEREBY APPROVED. UM. MISTER JORDANO, PLEASE READ RESOLUTION 005-24 INTO THE RECORD FOR INTRODUCTION. A RESOLUTION IN THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARTFORD COUNTY, OPPOSING THE PASSAGE OF HOUSING EXPANSION AND AFFORDABILITY ACT SB 44 AND HOUSE BILL 538 BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF MARYLAND. THANK YOU. WE'VE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE RECENTLY FROM THE CITY OF HAVE GRACE AND SOME OTHERS ASKING US TO, UH, CONSIDER SUPPORTING THEIR LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.

BILL MARTIN MAYOR MARTIN, I SHOULD SAY, AND, UM COUNTY EXECUTIVE SPOKE YESTERDAY, UH IN OPPOSITION TO IT AND SENT A LETTER TODAY. UH, WE FEEL THE SAME THAT, UM, OUR ZONING, OUR ZONING LAWS SHOULD BE CONTROLLED BY HARFORD COUNTY, NOT BY THE STATE. SO THIS RESOLUTION BASICALLY SAYS THAT AND, UM I HOPE THAT WE HAVE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT ANYONE ELSE. WANT TO SPEAK TO IT, MR PENMAN? THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM WELL, WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS, UH, BILL AND THE ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT THIS WILL CAUSE NOT ONLY ON OUR COMMUNITY BUT ACROSS OUR STATE, UH, WHERE THE STATE CAN COME IN AND INCREASE THE DENSITY, UH, ON CERTAIN AREAS OF OUR COUNTY, SO, UH, IT'S NEVER A GOOD, UH, IDEA FOR THE STATE TO COME IN AND IMPOSE, UM, ZONING REGULATIONS ON OUR COUNTY. THAT'S A DECISION AS YOU ALLUDED TO MR PRESIDENT THAT WE SHOULD BE MAKING FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF HARFORD COUNTY. SO I, I LOOK FORWARD TO OPPOSING THIS LEGISLATION. ON THE COUNCIL AND SENDING THAT TO ANNAPOLIS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MR BENNETT? UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO READ MAYOR BILL MARTIN'S LETTER THAT HE SENT, UH IN AND SHARED ONLINE . UM YOU KNOW HIM AND I SHARE A COMMONALITY AND THAT OUR CAREERS HAVE BEEN SPENT, UH, SERVING CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, UH, IN ECONOMICALLY TOUGH SITUATIONS AND IN POVERTY, AND WE BOTH SEE IT DAY IN AND DAY OUT THAT OUR FAMILIES DO NEED HOUSING AND WE NEED A PLACE FOR IT. UM, BUT THERE A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE POINTED OUT THAT I FOUND MOST TROUBLESOME, UM IS YOU KNOW , UH, WE'VE STARTED THIS INITIATIVE OF, UH, MIXED INCOME HOUSING, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT WHERE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF, UH HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS SET ASIDE FOR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES, BUT THEN THE REST IS GENERAL HOUSING. UM THERE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT AND HAVE THE GRACE NOW RIGHT OFF OF ROUTE 40.

THAT JUST, UH, WENT UP WHERE I THINK IT'S 10% OF THE HOUSING IS SET. FOR FIXED INCOME AND THEN THE REST IS GENERAL, UH, APARTMENT HOUSING, BUT THIS LEGISLATION INCREASES THAT PERCENTAGE THAT WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES TO SUCH A HIGH LEVEL THAT YOU END UP JUST MAKING AAA PLACE WHERE ONLY LOW INCOME FAMILIES ARE LIVING. AND THEN YOU END UP CREATING A ISOLATED POVERTY WHERE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE NOT ACCESSING THE SAME RESOURCES. UM AND SO THAT LEGISLATION FROM ANNAPOLIS WILL END UP SEGREGATING THOSE WHO ARE IN GREATEST NEED, UM, INSTEAD OF INTEGRATING THEM INTO OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, UH,

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ALONG WITH OTHER ISSUES THAT HE BROUGHT UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO OVERRIDE, UM, SCHOOL LIMITATIONS. IF THE SCHOOL IS AT CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU HIT 100 AND 10% IN HARTFORD COUNTY, YOU CAN'T BUILD ALL THIS LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE OVERRIDDEN AND YOU COULD STILL BUILD IN AN AREA THAT'S AT 100 AND 10% CAP. THE UM SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES LIKE THAT. THAT UM, THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS AND IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING AGAINST, UM MORE HOUSING OR AGAINST HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT'S AFFORDABLE, BUT IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S RESPONSIBLE, AND THAT KEEPS THE COUNTY AND OUR MUNICIPALITIES IN CHARGE OF THOSE DECISIONS. SO THANK YOU, MR BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE ELSE. MS. DIXON. MR. PRESIDENT. EXCUSE ME. OH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? HOUSE PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 005-24 OPPOSING SENATE BILL 484 AND HOUSE BILL 538. MAY I HAVE A 2ND? 2ND? THANK YOU, MR PENMAN.

BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. APPROVE RESOLUTION 524. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. MS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, I MR. GUTHRIE MR. PENMAN, MR. MR. MR MR BENNETT. SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO IN THE NEGATIVE RESOLUTION, 005. 20 FOURS HEREBY APPROVED. NUMBER NINE

[9. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS]

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS BILL 24-007 ZONING REVIEW PROCESS. UM MR J, ANDREA BILL 24-007 COMPREHENSIVE ZONING REVIEW PROCESS IN. INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VICENTE AT THE REQUEST OF COUNTY EXECUTIVE CALEY AN ACT TO INITIATE THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING REVIEW AS PERMITTED UNDER HARTH COUNTY CODE AS AMENDED TO SUSPEND SECTION 2 67-12 OF THE HARTFORD COUNTY CODE AS AMENDED FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME TO PROVIDE THAT CERTAIN ZONING RECLASSIFICATION APPLICATIONS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED DURING THE PERIOD. THAT SECTION, 2 67-12 IS SUSPENDED WITH CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS AND GENERAL GENERALLY RELATING TO ZONING PUBLIC.

SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY, MARCH 19TH 2024 AT 7:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU.

[10. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]

NUMBER 10 INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS. MISTER PENMAN, PLEASE READ AMENDMENTS THREE THROUGH SIX TO BILL 24-001. MR PRESIDENT. UH, THANK YOU. IF I 1ST MAY REQUEST TO WITHDRAW AMENDMENT TWO AND SUBMIT AMENDMENT THREE IN ITS REPLACEMENT. COUNCIL AND ANYONE IN OPPOSITION TO THAT WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THESE AND I CORRECT. WE ARE VOTING ON THE ONES THAT HE'S READING IN. YES, OK, MY AGENDA ARE BEING MOVED. YES. SO YOU WITHDRAWING NUMBER TWO? CORRECT. I'M WITHDRAWING. NUMBER TWO, OK? I GOT THAT'S RIGHT. YOU WANT TO READ YOUR AMENDS, PLEASE ON PAGE TWO OF LINE 12 AFTER REQUIREMENTS, INSERT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIRED FOR A DETACHED , ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN ONE ACRE AND ATTACHED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS LOCATED ON A LOT OF LESS THAN ONE ACRE IN EXISTENCE PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE COUNCIL, BILL 24-001 IS GRANDFATHERED AS A PERMITTED USE AND NOT SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF ARTICLE FOUR NON CONFORMING LOTS, BUILDING STRUCTURES AND USES OF THE ZONING CODE. AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. ON PAGE THREE. AFTER LINE FIVE INSERT, UH, THE RENTAL OF ANY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR PORTION THEREOF, FOR A PERIOD OF LESS THAN 30 DAYS IS PROHIBITED. AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE ON THE TITLE PAGE AND LINE EIGHT AFTER A UNIT INSERT TO PROHIBIT THE RENTAL OF A ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT FOR A PERIOD OF LESS THAN 30 DAYS. AN AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX ON PAGE TWO LINE 17 STRIKE 1500 SUBSTITUTE WITH 1200. THANK YOU. UM AGAIN. MR PER AND YOU WANT TO MOVE THESE THIS EVENING. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? YES MR PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS ALTOGETHER. 1345 AND SIX MAY HAVE A SECOND SECOND. AMENDMENTS 1345 AND SIX TO BUILD 24-001. UM. HAVE BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR J? UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. SO WE HAD AN AD U

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MEETING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO IN THAT AD U MEETING. WE HAD 21 PEOPLE WHO SPOKE ABOUT AD OS 14 OF THE CITIZENS WERE OPPOSED TO THE BILL. SEVEN WERE FOR THE BILL OF THE SEVEN THAT WERE FOR IT. FIVE WERE REALTORS. THE OTHER TWO WAS AN A ARP REPRESENTATIVE AND SOMEBODY WHO WAS AN ARCHITECT WITH EMAILS RECEIVED BY ALL COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH OVER 20 INDIVIDUALS WERE AGAINST THE BILL. ONE BEING A REALTOR. THREE INDIVIDUALS ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL OF THE THREE ONE WAS FROM THE MARYLAND BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, AND ONE WAS A REALTOR. UM AFTER SPEAKING WITH MULTIPLE CONSTITUENTS, INCLUDING REAL ESTATE AGENTS, BUSINESS OWNER THE BILL ALLOWS FOR GARAGES AND BASEMENTS TO BE TURNED INTO RENTAL UNITS, REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF THE LOT, UH, AND DECREASES THE PROPERTY VALUE. OK IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH PLANNED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES WHERE FAMILY HAVE INVESTED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THEIR DREAM HOMES TO BE CONFRONTED WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS, PROPERTY BEING TURNED INTO RENTAL UNITS, ACCORDING TO ZILLOW. RESEARCH HOUSING MARKETS WITH STRICTER LAND USE REGULATIONS EXPERIENCE THE HIGHEST GROWTH IN HOME VALUES, IN FACT, THE MOST RESTRICTIVE METROPOLITAN AREAS WITNESSED AN AVERAGE APPRECIATION OF 23.4% MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT OF THE LESS LEAST RESTRICTIVE METROS. UM. THIS IS A RAIN REASON I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST AMENDMENTS. UM I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE BILL. I ASK COUNCILMAN PENMAN TO WITHDRAW THE BILL. UM I THINK IT'S A BAD BILL. I'VE TALKED TO CHAD RHODES , WHO WAS THE INITIAL PERSON OF THE BILL THAT WE APPROVED IN 2019 THAT ALLOWED FOR AD U FAMILY MEMBERS TO, UM, LIVE IN A PERSON'S HOME. CONVERT THOSE INTO, UH, FULL UNITS WITH KITCHENS AND EVERYTHING. WHEN SOMEBODY SOLD THE HOUSE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE TORN BACK. UM SO A LOT OF THE REALTORS DON'T WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS OPPOSING THIS BILL BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OSTRACIZED BY THE BY THE COMMUNITY. BUT IN WHOLE AND FULLY PEOPLE THAT CAME TO HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT. PEOPLE THAT EMAILED US HAVE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE AD US, NOT JUST THE BUILDINGS, THE OUTBUILDINGS, BUT THE FACT THAT THESE BUILDINGS CAN BE CONVERTED INTO RENTAL. UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM NOW I SPENT TWO COLD SATURDAYS, WALKING MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOCKING ON DOORS. AND AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, 30 OF THE PEOPLE ANSWERED THE DOOR, NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE FOR A US. I'VE HEARD PEOPLE IN HERE NOT FOR AD. US I'VE I'VE GETTING CALLS EVERY DAY FROM PEOPLE CALLING ME NOT FOR YOU TO USE. WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THIS COUNTY? WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMEBODY SPECIAL INTEREST. I'M NOT SURE WHY WHO? WHAT THIS IS FOR REALTORS DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS. UM YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN PENMAN WENT TO THE REALTORS AND SAID HE WAS GONNA DO THIS. SO, UM SO, I. I CAN'T IN ANY GOOD CONSCIOUSNESS VOTE FOR AN AMENDMENT FOR THE A DS. UM SO AGAIN, I ASK THAT IT BE WITHDRAWN. AND, UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. MR PENN. I APPRECIATE, UH.

YOUR POSITION COUNCILOR. ME, ARDO. UM. BUT HERE'S THE THING WE ARE DEALING, UH, WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS. UM OBVIOUSLY THE STATE THE GOVERNOR, UH HA HAS TRIED TO PUSH ON SOME BURDEN BURDENSOME REGULATIONS ON THE COUNTIES. BUT THIS IS A SMART WAY TO DEAL WITH OUR HOUSING CRISIS IN HARTFORD COUNTY. THIS IS GONNA BE NEED BASED FOR SENIORS. PREDOMINANTLY FOR SENIORS. UM THERE WERE MANY TALKING POINTS. UH, DURING OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOWING OUR PUBLIC HEARING WHETHER IT'S THROUGH EMAILS, CONVERSATIONS ON PHONE OR MEETINGS, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL ELEMENTS NOT ONLY WITH THOSE BUT OUR COLLEAGUES, AND THEY WERE ALL ADDRESSED BASED OFF OF THOSE COMETS, CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS. LOT SIZE ONE ACRE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE, I THINK THERE'S AN ESTIMATED 800 LOTS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE THAT ARE ONE ACRE AND ABOVE RIGHT. 400 OF THEM PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO BE QUALIFIED BASED OFF OF THE SETBACKS, THE FOREST CONSERVATION SO IT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY LIMITED EVEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. SECONDLY ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THIS BILL IS IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON ENVELOPE. UH, SO NOT SEWER, SEPTIC IN WELLS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SO IF THE CAPACITY DOESN'T HAVE THE AVAILABILITY FOR AN ADDITIONAL 2 TO 4 PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLY IN A SMALLER AD U. THEY'RE JUST NOT

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GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT. SECONDLY THE PRICE OF THESE A TO IMPLEMENT ON THEM ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY ARE ARE RANGING FROM A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS. YOU'RE NOT BUILDING AN AD U ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. FOR A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO RENT THEM OUT. RIGHT. IT'S GONNA BE NEED BASED. IT'S GONNA BE FOR OUR SENIORS. WE NEED PLACES FOR OUR SENIORS, SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE LOT SIZE. THAT WAS A REQUEST OF MINE. UH, FROM TO ME. WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT FEES RIGHT. WE'VE ASSESSED THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE A US. WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SIZE 1500 SQUARE FOOT BEING TOO LARGE FOR AN A SO WE'VE COMPROMISED THE 1200 SQUARE FOOT FOR THE AD U. AND THEN THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. DM BS ARE NOT REGULATED IN HARTFORD COUNTY AT ALL. WHY WE PUT AN ELEMENT IN THIS BILL TO PREVENT SHORT TERM RENTALS OF AD. US THIS IS A THIS IS A COMPROMISE. THIS IS A GOOD BILL. THIS WILL HELP ON A VERY SMALL SMALL SCALE OUR HOUSING CRISIS OUR SENIOR HOUSING CRISIS HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY, SO FINALLY LET ME JUST CLOSE WITH THIS. WE'RE JUST VOTING ON AMENDMENTS, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE BILL. SOME MAY NOT LIKE THE BILL, BUT IRREGARDLESS. YOU CAN'T ARGUE THAT THESE AMENDMENTS IMPROVE THE BILL. RIGHT. WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND TELL THE BILL WAS ACTUALLY VOTED ON. BUT WE ARE ONLY VOTING ON THE AMENDMENTS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR PRESIDENT. UM, MR RILEY. YEAH I. I TAKE EXCEPTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THESE WERE BEING VOTED ON TONIGHT. UM, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE WERE EVEN BEING INTRODUCED. THE LATEST AGENDA I GOT. THEY WEREN'T ON THERE. SO UH, THEY WERE CHANGED ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK THIS AFTERNOON. OK, WELL, I APPARENTLY DIDN'T GET IT. IN ANY CASE. UM I. I DO BELIEVE THEY MIGHT MAKE THE BILL BETTER AGAIN. I. I THINK THE BILL HAS A LOT MORE TO, UH, AMENDMENTS. THEY GOTTA COME FORWARD TO MAKE THIS A BILL THAT I WOULD AT LEAST VOTE FOR. I. I ALMOST WANT TO SAY, UH, COUNCILMAN PAYMAN. I WOULD WITHDRAW THESE TONIGHT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'M GO. I CAN VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WERE BEING INTRODUCED. AND I'M THE ONE THAT ASKS YOU FOR NUMBER ONE. THANK YOU. MR BELL. UM I JUST HAVE A REQUEST FROM COUNSEL IN HIM AND IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE SUBSTANTIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMENDMENT TWO WHICH YOU'RE WITHDRAWING AN AMENDMENT THREE, WHICH YOU INSERTING, UM AT FIRST GLANCE, THEY READ ALMOST IDENTICAL, AND I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR PUBLIC CLARITY TO SPEAK TO WHY YOU'RE DOING THAT. AND WHAT THE CHANGE IS NOW. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME BECAUSE I PLANNED ON ADDRESS AND THEN I TOLD THE, UH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AND I DIDN'T SO A AMENDMENT TWO WAS WITHDRAWN. AMENDMENT THREE WAS BROUGHT FORWARD. THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL, BUT, UH, MEN WITH THREE ENCOMPASSES MORE OF A DESCRIPTION THAT IS IN THE ACTUAL CODE ITSELF. SO REALLY, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, UM AS PERMITTED USE AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF ARTICLE 49 CONFORMING LOTS, BUILDING STRUCTURES AND USES OF THE ZONING CODE. SO IT'S STRAIGHT OUT OF THE ZONING CODE. UH, CODE MORE COMPREHENSIVE. MHM M BENT.

AND THEN I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONVERSATION TO BE HAD AROUND AD U. UM MY VOTING TONIGHT IS STRICTLY JUST ON THESE AMENDMENTS, WHICH I DO THINK ARE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ALTHOUGH I DO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE THOUGHT OF YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TAKING THIS ACTION IN THE MIDST OF THE STATE PREPARING TO GIVE RECOMMENDATION AND I DO THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO HEAR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN FULL VOTING ON LEGISLATION THAT YOU KNOW THE STATE COULD GIVE US RECOMMENDATION THAT DIFFERS FROM THIS GREATLY. UM AND I ALSO AM TAKING MORE TIME TO LOOK AT OTHER COUNTIES. YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT ANN ARUNDEL COUNTY THAT ALLOWS FOR NON FAMILY USE OF AD US, BUT ALSO ANUND COUNTY HAS A 950 SQUARE FOOT LIMIT ON THEIR AD US AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE GOING FROM 1500 TO 1200, BUT AS SOMEBODY WHO USED TO OWN A 700 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON BAY BOULEVARD I KNOW. YOU KNOW, 1200 SQUARE FEET IS STILL PRETTY BIG COMPARED TO MY OLD 700 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO UM, THERE'S STILL A LOT FOR ME TO CONSIDER. I JUST DON'T I WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY THINKS THAT, UH I'M VOTING TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF THESE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE I'M IN FAVOR OF THE LEGISLATION. IT'S JUST ABOUT I THINK, MAKING THE LEGISLATION. UH, BETTER TOWARDS THE NEXT STEP. THANKS, MR BENNETT. MR. JANER, DENNE. SO I UNDERSTAND THE AMENDMENTS. WHAT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY

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IS CLEAR. HE DID NOT MENTION THAT THE AD US ALLOW SOMEBODY WITH A BASEMENT TO CONVERT THAT INTO LIVING QUARTERS OR GARAGE. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE IT'S AN ACRE OR AN ACRE LESS. YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS THE FACT THAT IT TAKES A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU CAN CONVERT THAT HOME THAT BASEMENT INTO A FULL LIVING QUARTERS FOR SOMEBODY SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN OPPOSITION NOT ONLY OF THE AMENDMENTS BUT OF THE BILL BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT A FAMILY RELATIVE, NOT A GRANDFATHER, GRANDMOTHER, NEPHEW OR SOMETHING. IT ALLOWS IT TO BE RENTED TO WHOEVER THEY WANT TO RENT IT TO. OK SO THAT YOU DID NOT ADDRESS THAT IS CLEARLY IN THE BILL, AND EVERYBODY IS LISTENING TO ME AND EVERYBODY OUT IN THE AUDIENCE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CLEAR OF THAT. THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE BILL. THE BILL SAYS. YOU CAN PUT A RENTAL UNIT AND YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THEIR HOMES DON'T WANT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TO TURN INTO RENTAL RENTAL UNITS. THEY JUST DON'T OK, DIFFERENT STORY IN A IN A FACILITY WHERE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, AN ACRE OF LAND, AND YOU'RE YOU'RE GONNA LOOK ON SOMETHING. BUT THE BILL STATES THAT YOU CAN IN THE BASEMENT OF YOUR HOME AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AN EGRESS AND ENTRY. THERE THAT IT MEETS THAT IT MEETS, UH, CODE FOR THAT, SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR OF THAT. MY VOICE IS HEARD. OK AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THE BILL, AND THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE BILL. MR P. JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UM, AS IT SITS NOW, IF YOU WANT TO LET SOMEONE LIVE IN YOUR BASEMENT, WHETHER IT'S YOUR FAMILY OR NOT YOUR FAMILY YOU CAN DO THAT NOW, BUT ONE ELEMENT THAT YOU DID DISCOVER WHICH I THINK IS IF YOU WANNA PUT THIS A TO YOU IN THE BASEMENT AND YOU WANT TO APPLY, AND YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT OVERSIGHT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EGRESS ROUTE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXIT DOWN DOWN IN THE BASEMENT. SO IF ANYTHING, IT PROVIDES MORE RESTRICTION. IT PROVIDES MORE OVERSIGHT. SO THE COUNTY KNOWS WHO HAS THE AD US. THE COUNTY KNOWS THAT THEY'RE COLLECTING THE IMPACT FEES AND THAT YOU THEN IF YOU SELL THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER COMES IN AFTERWARDS STILL HAS TO APPLY FOR THE A US. SO IT'S I THINK IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN ALLOWING ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY TO LIVE IN YOUR HOUSE. YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT NOW. THAT'S WHY, MR GUTHRIE. UM UH, A LOT OF GOOD POINTS ARE MADE HERE AND I, I THINK, I KIND OF AGREE WITH MR BENNETT. UH, COUNCILMAN BENNETT. ALSO THAT, UH, UH, IF THESE AMENDMENTS ARE PASSED SINCE THEY'RE NOT THE BILL, WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE BILL ITSELF. UM I THINK MAYBE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH UH, ONLY SENIOR CITIZENS HERE. MAYBE THEY OUGHT TO BE AN AMENDMENT SAYS THIS ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE 65 AND OVER. I SAID, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT. UM NOT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT ME IN FRONT OF US. BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE THAT. THE BILL ACTUALLY COMES UP IN FRONT OF US, AND WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. ANYONE ELSE? SO FOR ME. THIS IS THIS IS A BILL THAT, UH. MAKES ME WANT TO GIVE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ATTENTION TO NOT THAT ALL DON'T BUT THIS ONE DOES. WHEN WE FIRST PASSED, UH, THE AD U BILL. UH, BILL 19 0 29. I WAS EXTREMELY IN SUPPORT OF THAT BILL. OF PERSONALLY I MEAN, II. I WAS ONE OF THE SUPPORTERS AND IT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AT THE TIME BY ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT ALLOWED US TO BRING A SENIOR INTO THE HOUSE AND HAVE THEM LIVE WITH US, AND WE WERE THE CAREGIVERS FOR THEM. AND IN MY CASE, MY MOTHER DID THAT. AND SHE WAS NOT ONLY THE WE WERE NOT ONLY THE CAREGIVERS FOR HER, BUT SHE ALSO WAS A CAREGIVER TO MY GRANDCHILDREN. SHE WAS ABLE TO LIVE THERE AND WE EXTENDED HER LIFE. QUITE A BIT BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO BRING HER IN WITH US.

SO WITH THAT SAID. WHEN THIS BILL WAS INTRODUCED. UM. I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A CONTROVERSIAL BILL. OUR TRAFFIC, UH, EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, CONVERSATIONS STARTED PICKING UP AND, UH IMMEDIATELY AND I HAVE TALKED WITH COUNCILMAN PENMAN THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AND YOU KNOW IT. IT SEEKS TO, UH, EXPAND THE USE. OBVIOUSLY IT IT HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE ANSWERS TO YET, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE REQUESTED WAS A FISCAL IMPACT. NOTE, UH FROM PLANNING AND ZONING AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM A WHILE TO DO THAT. AND SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THEIR RESPONSE. PATIENTLY. UM THE. I THINK ONE

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OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO SAY, TOO, IS THAT I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT COUNCILMAN PENMAN HAS DONE TO TALK WITH THE COLLEAGUES WITH MAKING CONCESSIONS WITH TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING HE COULD DO TO MAKE THIS BILL A BETTER BILL. UM ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES THAT I HAVE IS I SIT AS THE CHAIR TO THE, UH, ADEQUATE PUBLIC, UH, FACILITIES ORDINANCE ADVISORY BOARD AND FOR THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OR EVEN LONGER. SIX MONTHS. I GUESS I'VE MET WITH PARENTS AND THE BOARD OF ED THE SUPERINTENDENT AND WERE TALKING ABOUT CAPACITY ISSUES IN OUR SCHOOLS. TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPACT FEES. THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE JUST PUT TOGETHER A GROUP TO WORK AND LOOK AT OUR IMPACT FEES. UM AND, UH, THAT WAS JUST THIS THIS WEEK OR THIS.

YEAH, THIS PAST WEEK. UM AND THE LAST TIME THAT WAS DONE WAS IN 2004. SO UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWN HERE, UM BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN PENMAN HAS DONE. UM. THE RESEARCH THAT HE'S DONE, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES AND ALL OF THEIR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS AS WELL. UM I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NEXT. UM.

COUNCILMAN RILEY HAS ASKED ABOUT THESE AMENDMENTS TONIGHT. AND THE REASON WHY MR PENMAN WANTED TO VOTE ON THESE AMENDMENTS TONIGHT BECAUSE HE HAD TWO INTRODUCED AT THE LAST MEETING.

OUR NEXT MEETING IS TO DROP DEAD DATE FOR ACTION ON THIS BILL MARCH 5TH. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY HE MOVED THEM FORWARD. MR RILEY. NOW MR RILEY HAS ASKED YOU TO PULL SO UM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA CONSIDER THAT UH, YOU AND I TALKED TODAY ABOUT THIS. AND MY GUT TELLS ME THIS BILL NEEDS MORE WORK. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT TODAY AND WE HAVE TWO MORE WEEKS AFTER THIS. IT'S YOUR CALL TO EITHER BRING THESE UP FOR A VOTE TONIGHT. AND BASED WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN, OR CONSIDER MISTER RILEY'S OPTION. AND REVISIT THEM ON THE YES. MR P? YES JUST A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO DISCUSS HERE. UM ONE OF THE EARLIER, UH, THINGS THAT COUNCIL BENNETT MENTIONED AND I APPRECIATE HIM MENTIONING THAT IS ABOUT THE, UH, TASK FORCE THAT THE STATE HAS HAD. UM MYSELF, AND LEGISLATIVE AID HAVE BEEN A PART OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS TO FULLY UNDERSTAND, UH, THE STATE'S DIRECTIONS. UH, THE AD ADVANTAGES THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE AD U BILL. UH, BUT WE JUST GOT DONE VOTING A RESOLUTION THAT THE STATE SHOULDN'T DETERMINE WHAT'S GOOD FOR HARFORD COUNTY, RIGHT? WE NEED TO DETERMINE THAT RIGHT? SO AND I THINK I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME MISINFORMATION THAT WAS PUT OUT THERE AS WELL BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE THAT SENATE EMAIL. OBVIOUSLY HE'S IN OPPOSITION TO THIS LEGISLATION INDICATING OR PRESENTING FALSE INFORMATION THAT MIKO WAS AN OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. WE HAVE CONFIRMED ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT LEVELS THAT THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. NOT REMOTELY TRUE.

MEKA WAS NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THIS. MIKO WANTS WHAT EACH COUNTY WANTS. WE MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS. SO MR RICHARDSON, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE WITHDRAW THAT COMMENT, OR AT LEAST SP SEND AN EMAIL TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WAS MISINFORMATION BECAUSE IT MISLED COLLEAGUES HERE ON THE COUNCIL, AND IT MAY HAVE MISLED, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS WELL. UM MR RILEY, II. I APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERSHIP AND OUR CONVERSATION . YOU ARE ZACH, YOU WRITE. A LOT OF THESE AMENDMENTS WERE BASED OFF OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK GENERALLY YOU LIKE THE CONCEPT, BUT IT NEEDED SOME WORK, RIGHT? I DID TRY TO MAYBE YOU YOU DIDN'T GET THE MESSAGES OR THE PHONE CALL. I DID TRY TO REACH OUT TO YOU. AND WITH THE AMENDMENTS INTRODUCED LAST WEEK IN THESE NEW AMENDMENTS BASED OFF OF CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I WANTED TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE'VE CHANGED THE BILL BE BASED OFF OF THOSE CONVERSATION, AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE. I UNDERSTAND. IT'S KIND OF PUT ON YOUR LAST MINUTE. I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OF THE, UH, CO. UH, COLLEAGUES, NOT TONY , BECAUSE I KNOW TONY IS IN OPPOSITION OF IT. SO UM JUST TO BASE OFF OF WHAT THEY FEEL ABOUT THESE THINGS. SO I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY BE UPSET THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE PRE-K. BUT I PROMISE YOU AND I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE. AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THESE IMPROVED THE BILL. I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE

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CONVERSATION. JIM I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND TO FIND SOME RESOLUTION, BUT IN THE END, THESE FOUR AMENDMENTS IMPROVE THE BILL SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. SO WHEN WE ARE FACED WITH THE DROP DEAD DATE ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WE CAN SET ASIDE ALL OF THESE AND LOOK AT THE AS AMENDED VERSION AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO GO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR PEN, MR. GUTHRIE. UM WHEN I FIRST LOOKED THIS BILL OVER AND, UH YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UH MY MOTHER IN LAW MOVED IN WITH US, UM, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. SHE'S NOW GOING TO BE A 98 IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND SO WE'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF HER . AND UH, SHE BASICALLY HAS HER OWN ROOM, THOUGH. AND HER OWN BATHROOM. UH UH. SO I THOUGHT ABOUT HER AT THE TIME WHEN THIS BILL WAS, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BILL. UM I UH UM, MR PRESIDENT, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. UH, IS, UH, A AT THE AT THE DROP. DATE WHICH IS THE 35. WILL ANY AMENDMENTS BE ALLOWED TO BE BROUGHT IN AT THAT TIME? I BELIEVE WE TYPICALLY DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE CITIZENS DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO VISIT THEM AND REVIEW THEM. BUT IN THIS CASE, UM IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM YOU KNOW IS LOOKED AT TO MAKE THIS BILL EVEN BETTER. I MEAN, I WOULDN'T SEE WHY WE WOULDN'T. IF MR KEARNEY TELLS ME THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE, THEN I WILL FOLLOW HIS LEAD. NO IT IT. IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR WHETHER THE AMENDMENTS CAN COME IN OR I, I WILL POINT OUT THAT IT IF AMENDMENTS ARE REPORTED IN ON MARCH 5TH AND OBVIOUSLY ON MARCH 5TH AND MAY ARE APPROVED. UH, THAT.

CONSIDERATION WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT OFF. WHY I PREPARE AN AMENDED VERSION OF THE BILL.

CORRECT. MR PRESIDENT. UM. I THINK I CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT. I CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE BILL RIGHT HERE FROM THE FLOOR. HAS BEEN WRITING YOU SCRATCH IT. UM. OK, BUT I, I THINK I WILL BE PUTTING AN AMENDMENT IN ON THE FIFTH. UH AND SO EVERYBODY CAN THINK IT OVER THAT THE BILL SHOULD APPLY TO PEOPLE ARE 65 AND OVER. THAT'D BE MY AMENDMENT. SO I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GET IT TO US BEFORE THE FIFTH. YOU GET IT TO US JUST AFTER THE FIRST OF THE MONTH SO THAT WE HAVE A CHANCE TO BRING IT TO THE AGENDA CATCH UP MEETING. AND DISCUSS IT BEFORE I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. I WOULD DO THAT TOMORROW, WOULD YOU? SO WE CAN ALL HAVE IT IN TIME. 65 AND OVER, HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO WRITE. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. MR JORDANA. UM SO I. I KNOW AARON SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON THIS BILL. BUT I ALSO KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF CITIZENS. UH, YOU KNOW, ONE THERE WAS AN OLDER GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, MR. LYONS, MR LYONS. WHO SAID HE WANTED TO LIVE ON HIS DAUGHTER'S PROPERTY AND BUILD A UNIT. WHAT. HE DIDN'T SAY WAS THAT HE COULD LIVE IN HIS DAUGHTER'S UNIT. HE COULD LIVE IN A IN A SEPARATE UNIT IN HIS DAUGHTER'S HOUSE. HE WANTED A SEPARATE UNIT. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE PASSED IN 19 WHEN WE PASSED A BILL, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE THAT WERE IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL THAT I'VE HEARD OR TALKED TO WAS SIX REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND A ARP MEMBER AND AN ARCHITECT. I. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY. THAT IS FOR THIS AD BILL. THIS IS HARTFORD COUNTY.

IT'S NOT ANY OTHER COUNTY I. I UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER COUNTIES MIGHT BE LOOKING AT. BUT THIS IS HARTFORD COUNTY. OK, UM, I KNOW THAT HOUSING IS TOUGHER AND TIGHTER. AND BUT THAT GOES BACK TO 2008 WHEN THEY STOPPED BUILDING SPEC HOUSES. OK UM AND THEY STOPPED BUILDING THEIR SPEC HOUSES AND EVERY AND YOU KNOW, ALSO WITH THE LAND, BUT I, I STILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO SAY I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME NOBODY'S FOR THIS A BILL I. I CAN'T FOR ADAM. IT'S I WALKED. I KNOCKED ON DOORS. NOT ONE PERSON SAID. OH, YEAH, OK. OH YOU COULD PUT A YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING IN MY NEIGHBORS AND THEY CAN LIVE THERE. THEY THEY DON'T LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. RIGHT NOW. THANKS, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MR BENNETT. UM THANK YOU, MISTER PRESIDENT. UM, JUST, UH FEW QUESTIONS. UM, LIKE THINKING BACK TO LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THE WAREHOUSE LEGISLATION I KNOW MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS WERE CONSTANTLY REACHING OUT TO PLANNING AND ZONING TO ASK QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, UH, MR GRIMM AND I MET SEVERAL TIMES AND OFTEN. IT WAS VERY CONTENTIOUS BECAUSE WE

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DISAGREED. BUT HE'S THE EXPERT IN PLANNING AND ZONING. SO WE WERE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION BECAUSE I NEEDED HIS GUIDANCE. UM, WITH THIS LEGISLATION, AND WITH THESE AMENDMENTS WE'RE VOTING ON. AND I HAVE YOU DONE ANY OUTREACH TO THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND ZONING TO GET THEIR GUIDANCE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN PLANNING AND ZONING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CAUSING ANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BY, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST, UH MI WORDING SOMETHING OR PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE WRONG SPOT, OR, YOU KNOW ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES AND MAKING SURE YOU'RE TALKING WITH SHANE GRIMM AND HIS STAFF HAS THAT HAPPENED. MR PERM. I'VE I'VE ATTEMPTED TO REACH OUT TO PLANE AND ZONING, UH, IN THE ADMINISTRATION. UM THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED. I ASKED FOR ANY FEEDBACK WHATSOEVER. UH, IN DECEMBER. AND THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAS REQUESTED AGAIN THAT FISCAL IMPACT AND WE HAVE NOT ANY RESPONSE WHATSOEVER, SO I UNDERSTAND I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO BASE IT OFF OF BUT THE LACK OF TRYING FOR THEM OVER OVERSEE THAT THIS BILL JUST DOESN'T GO FORWARD. WE'VE DONE THE RESEARCH. WE KNOW WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING. NOT THAT WE HAVE TO EMULATE THEM. BUT WE CAN LEARN FROM THEM AND YOU ARE A GREAT RESEARCHER ON EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO TO FIND OUT WHAT WHAT IS WORKING IN OTHER JURISDICTION, AND HOW DOES IT APPLY TO HARFORD COUNTY? SO THE RESEARCH THAT I HAVE IN THIS PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE, AND THESE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE INTRODUCED AND HOPEFULLY PASS. WE'LL GET IT AT A POINT TO WHERE IT'S A BETTER BILL, AND WE HAVE TWO WEEKS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT DURING THE WAREHOUSE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BILL WE INTRODUCED AND VOTED ON BILLS AMENDMENTS THAT DAY. SO IF THERE IS DISCUSSION ON THAT I WELCOME THOSE DISCUSSIONS. I AM ALWAYS OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS FOR ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL OR ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR KEARNEY. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE TIMELINE AGAIN ON THE FISCAL IMPACT NOTE THAT I REQUESTED THROUGH YOU? LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL OUT THE I'M TALKING ABOUT A TIMELINE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING TO RESPOND. RIGHT. IT'S FOUR. WE M. SO WE'RE ABOUT 2.5 3 WEEKS INTO THAT. YEAH, I. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE PROBABLY OVER THAT. PROBABLY CLOSER. NOTHING 2 TO 3 WEEKS. IT WAS REQUESTED ON JANUARY 24TH. OK? OK, MR JEN. UM I DID REACH OUT TO SHANE GRAHAM.

I ACTUALLY CALLED HIM TODAY. HE CALLED ME BACK. I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE PRIOR BILL BEFORE 2019 THAT ALLOWED COTTAGE HOUSING. UM HE DID TELL ME THERE'S THREE COTTAGE HOUSES, UH, IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AND APPROVED, AND THE COTTAGE HOUSING WAS THAT INCLUDED, UH, CARETAKERS AND, UM, LIKE NANNIES AND STUFF AND SO FORTH. SO THERE IS THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THAT PEOPLE DID TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. THAT THAT PART COTTAGE HOUSING WAS CHANGED WHEN WE INTRODUCED THE BILL IN 2019, SO I DID TALK TO SHANE ABOUT THAT TODAY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR JANNO. UM. AGAIN. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE. IF THE BILL NEEDS TO HAVE THIS MUCH WORK DONE TO IT THAT MANY AMENDMENTS AND NOT THAT WE DON'T WORK ON AMENDMENTS ON EVERY PIECE OF LEGISLATION. BUT, UM IT JUST SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ME. AND IF THIS BILL WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, OR THESE AMENDMENTS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD THIS EVENING, I WOULD HAVE TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE. UM I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT HIM. SO, UM. ONE LAST TIME, MISTER PENMAN. UM, WOULD YOU CONSIDER PULLING THESE AMENDMENTS TONIGHT? MR PRESIDENT . I APPRECIATE THE OFFER. UH, I, I WELCOME. UH, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ON THE BILL. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS. AND THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE, UH, A BILL THAT HAS AMENDED AND I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER IN OUR CONVERSATION. FAIR ENOUGH ANYONE ELSE FOR COMMENTS? MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT. I'M GOING TO PASS RIGHT NOW. MISTER GUTHRIE. MR PENMAN, MR. JORDANO NO, MR RILEY , NO. MRS BOLS SOLES. MR BENNETT. I MR PRESIDENT ABSTAIN. SO THERE'D BE FOUR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. AND TWO IN THE NEGATIVE, WITH ONE ABSTENTION. AMENDMENTS. NUMBER 1345 AND SIX ARE APPROVED. AGENDA NUMBER 11 CALLED FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS. WE HAVE NONE. 12 ENROLLMENT OF BILLS. WE HAVE NONE. 13 UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE NONE. 14 NEW BUSINESS. A

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COUNCIL YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A LETTER OF SUPPORT. FOR HOUSE BILL 0899 AND SENATE BILL 0691.

THIS IS FOR HIGHER EDUCATION, FIREFIGHTERS AND EMS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, SCHOLARSHIP AND LOAN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. NOW WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM MAO WITH THIS LEGISLATION.

AND THEY ARE ENCOURAGING US AS THEY DID OTHER ALL OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. AND WITH THAT , I'D LIKE TO TURN OVER MR PEN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. UM THERE'S NO SECRET THAT RECRUITMENT OR RETENTION, UH FOR BOTH CAREER AND VOLUNTEER, FIREFIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES PERSONNEL POSE AN URGENT AND HIGH PRIORITY CONCERNS FOR MARYLAND, THEIR SAFETY AND SECURITY IN THE SHORT AND THE LONG TERM, AND THAT'S WHY, UM FIREFIGHTER RETENTION RECRUITMENT WAS ONE OF MAKO'S PRIMARY. UH SIBIL, OR GENDER ITEMS THIS YEAR, AND HOUSE BILL 899 AND SENATE BILL 691 IS THE FIRST STEP IN INCREASING THAT CAPACITY OF MARYLAND'S FIREFIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY SERVICES WORKFORCE, WHICH IN TURN WILL KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. UH BY MAKING SCHOLARSHIPS APPLICABLE TO ALL COURSES AT SIX INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION IN THE STATE OF MARYLAND, ESTABLISHING, UH, AN AND ESTABLISHING A MARYLAND LOAN REPAYMENT. UH UH. SYSTEM PROGRAM FOR FIREFIGHTERS AND EMERGENCY PERSONNEL. UH, I SEE MR SOLID HERE IN THE AUDIENCE LIFELINE. UH, LIFETIME, UH, MEMBER OF THE OF THE FIRE COMPANIES IN HARTFORD COUNTY, DEDICATED, UM SO AND I I'M SURE IF HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE. HE WOULD TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT THIS LEGISLATION WILL THIS A LETTER OF SUPPORT IS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SENDING THAT TOWN TO ANNAPOLIS AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THIS BILL PASSED. HE'D BE SPEAKING ABOUT SMOKE DETECTORS. UM THANK YOU, MR PENMAN. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS? MAY HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE. I MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU, MR RILEY.

THANK YOU, MR GUTHRIE. YES I'M SORRY TO PROVE MR CARNEY. JUST SO THE MOTION IS SECOND HAS, UH, FOR HOUSE BILL 899 AND SENATE BILL 691 ISRAELI DISCUSSION ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. SEEING NONE, MISS DIXON. MR PRESIDENT, CATHERINE MR. PENMAN DAN O REILLY, MR BENNETT. THEY'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO AND NEGATIVE. THE LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR HOUSE BILL 0899 AND SENATE BILL 0691 IS HEREBY APPROVED. AGENDA NUMBER 17 COMMENTS AND INPUT

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FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS. MS DICKSON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP MR PRESIDENT WE HAVE FOR THIS EVENING. RON SALAD RUN SOLID, FOLLOWED BY JOHN MALLAMO. MR SALEH, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, JUST REMEMBER YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND I NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I HAVE TO GO WATCH COUNCIL PRESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT COUGHING WANNA THINK I JUST WANT TO TALK TO THAT PRESIDENT CITY SAID. YEAH I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT SMOKE ALARMS AGAIN, AND I WANT TO SAY YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THESE SMOKE ALARMS IN THEIR HOUSE. YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THEM ACTIVE. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL FIRES IN HARFORD COUNTY AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT COMES OUT OF FARMERS REPORT. NO WORKING SMOKE ALARMS WHEN I MEAN WORKING IS THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING. THEY'RE DISCONNECTED. THEY'RE JUST HANGING THERE. YOU MUST HAVE SMOKE ALARMS IN YOUR HOUSE TO BE SAFE. THEY DO SAVE LIVES TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICK IS ON FEBRUARY 8TH AT APPROXIMATELY 312 PM WE HAD A FIRE IN ALBANY SINGLE FAMILY. IT'S A RENTAL, ONE LEVEL. GIRL. SAVED HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO SAVOR DOG DOWN 911. NOW I SAY THAT BECAUSE SHE'S 11 YEARS OLD WHEN I LISTENED TO THE DISPATCH COMMENTS AND LISTEN TO HER CONVERSATION WITH THE DISPATCHER, THIS COULDN'T HAVE BEEN SCRIPTED ANY BETTER. THIS 11 YEAR OLD CRYING AS SHE WAS SAFER DOG. IT WAS SO UPSET BECAUSE HER MOTHER WAS WORKING AND THEY HAD TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HER AND EVERYTHING TO A T.

SHE KNEW WHAT TO DO. SHE KNEW HOW TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. SHE KNEW IT STARTS SIZE. YOU'RE STANDING NOW WITH THE DISPATCHER. AND SHE SHE SPELLED HER NAME AND EVERYTHING AND GAVE DISPATCH OF IT KEPT CALM THE WHOLE TIME, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS CRYING EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE GAVE HER AN AWARD TWO GOLDEN BOARD UP THERE 911 CENTER AND REPRESENTATIVE. SOMETHING'S BECAUSE THEY LOST EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE. MY POINT IS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY WORKING, SMUGGLE

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ARMS. I'M GOOD AT STARTING A HOUSE, AND THIS CAUSED THE FIRE WAS UNLOCKED TO A FAULT IN HER BEDROOM. THANK GOD SHE WAS AWAKE AND NOT ASLEEP AT THE TIME. SHE HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO GRAB THIS BIG PAPER. WHEN I SAW WE GOT TO MEET THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN £70. SHE PICKED IT UP AND CARRIED OUT OF THE HOUSE. I SAY THIS BECAUSE WE ALL NEED TO KNOW THIS AND THERE ARE TWO WAYS OUT OF YOUR HOUSE. NOW WHAT DID YOU DO IN CASE OF FIRE, AND WHEN YOU DO CALL 911 CALL KIND OF COLLECTED. GIVE THE DISPATCHER INFORMATION. YOU GOT TO GET THIS BATCH OF CREDIT TO, UH, FOR BEING SO CALM AND TALKING TO THIS YOUNG LADY AT 11 YEARS OLD, AND I'M GOING TO PUSH US AS MUCH AS I CAN, BECAUSE I PREACHED THIS ALL THE TIME, AND I TALKED TO PEOPLE IN SAFETY HAD MY SAFETY HOUSE OUT THERE. WHEN I GO TO YARD DOG BE VERY CALM WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THE DISPATCHER. BUT GET THOSE SMUGGLERS NECK MARK. THERE'S NO REASON IN THE WORLD. ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE WORKING SMOKE ALARMS IN YOUR HOUSE. WE GIVE THEM OUT. WE PUT HIM IN FOR FREE. WE CANNOT DO THE HARD WIRED. WAS IT HARD WIRED ONES CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER. BUT WE CAN PUT IN A 10 YEAR BATTERY ONLY OPERATE OPERATED SMOKE ALARM. THAT'S FRANK, WE CAN WE PUT THEM IN, AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE SAFE. THEY WILL GO OFF THEY WILL OPERATE PROTECTORS. THE FUMES. AFTER 10 YEARS WE'RE JUST REPLACING FOR YOU, PLEASE. WOULD YOU MAKE SURE YOU HAVE WORKING SMUGGLE ARMS IN YOUR HOMES? MR. PRESIDENT THANK YOU A BIT ABOUT ALL I CAN TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW. A FAVOR COUNCILOR ATTORNEYS TELLING ME HE DIDN'T HEAR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. COULD YOU SORRY. ITS ROUNDS. HARPER COUNTY OPERATIONS 20 TO 2080 ROAD AND FLOWERS TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S NOT YOUR THAT'S NOT YOUR RESIDENCE, THOUGH, IS IT, SIR? I NEED YOUR RESIDENCE. YES, SIR. 337 LITTLE PLACE IN ABINGTON. THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. SIR. GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

JOHN P. MALAMBO 24 02 EAGLE VIEW DRIVE. I STILL REMEMBER THAT REVIEWING COUNCILMAN GUTHRIE PROPOSAL LEGISLATION TO DISTRIBUTE 50% OF THE HOTEL TAX REVENUE GENERATED FROM HOTELS AND EDGEWOOD JOPPATOWNE TO THE COMMUNITY, OFFERING THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE TREATED AS A MUNICIPALITY WITHOUT ANY OF THE ASSOCIATED OBLIGATIONS OR RESPONSIBILITIES. WITHOUT ANY PLAN, OR NECESSITY, DESCRIBED FOR DISPERSING THOSE FUNDS AND NO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ENTITY FOR RECEIVING, DISPERSING, HOLDING OR ACCOUNTING FOR FUNDS AND NO METHOD OF INDEMNIFYING THE COUNTY AGAINST MISCHIEF AND MISCONDUCT. THAT LEGISLATION WAS AMENDED PAST VETOED IN THE COUNCIL VOTED TO OVERRIDE THE VETO. COACHMAN BENJAMIN DID NOT LIKE THE VETO LANGUAGE DETERMINE THE TAX IS ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE RESIDENTS DO NOT PAY THE TAX COULD NOT GET A FOREVER GUARANTEE THAT VISIT HARVARD FOUNDED WOULD NOT BE CUT NEVER ADDRESSED THE LEGAL PRINCIPLES IN THE VETO AND VOTED TO OVERRIDE THE VETO. NOW SIR, WHAT IS THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR DISPERSING PUBLIC FUNDS TO A PRIVATE PERSON? HOW ARE THOSE BONDS ACCOUNTED FOR COUNCILMAN PENMAN WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF STATUTES. I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU DID NOT OFFER OBJECTIONS TO THE AMENDMENTS AND VOTE TO UPHOLD THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES VETO. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU ENUMERATED VISITORS RESTAURANT REVENUES AND STATED THAT VISIT HARFORD SHOULD GET PUBLIC FUNDS BECAUSE THEY DO. GOOD WORK, SIR. WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF YOUR DATA? WHAT WAS THE METHODOLOGY USED WHO ARE CREDITED VALIDATED OR VERIFIED? THE NUMBERS OF METHODOLOGY. COUNCILMAN JUNE GIORDANO, YOUR ENTIRE BUSINESS AND PROFESSION IS BASED ON STATISTICS. I'M SURPRISED THAT YOU DID NOT REQUEST A SOURCE AND METHODOLOGY FOR THE NUMBERS CITED. AS FOR VISIT HARFORD THEIR GOOD WORK AND GIVING PUBLIC FUNDS TO A PRIVATE PERSON . WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THAT DETERMINATION? WHAT ARE THE METRICS? RESIDENTS IN HARPER COUNTY GET TO SEE A REPORT ON VISIT HARFORD'S WORK. WHAT EXACTLY DOES VISIT HARFORD DO FOR HARFORD COUNTY? HOW ARE THE FUNDS JUST TRANSFERRED IN ACCOUNTED FOR? WHAT IS THE LEGAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN VISIT HARFORD AND HARFORD'S COUNTY? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THOSE FUNDS? HOW DOES YOUR REVENUE ESTIMATE DISTINGUISHED SPENDING BETWEEN THAT OF RESIDENTS? PERSONNEL HERE ON BUSINESS PERSONNEL ARRIVING OFF 95 ON THEIR WAY SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND TOURISTS ARRIVING FOR SOME EVENT. ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN AMUSING TO WATCH YOUR ACTIONS. UNFORTUNATELY THIS WHOLE EPISODE ONCE AGAIN DEMONSTRATES THE SHALLOWNESS OF GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNANCE IN HARFORD COUNTY.

GOODNIGHT. DIANA SADOWSKI, FOLLOWED BY SYRIA, BEN. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND

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ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, DIANA SADOWSKI 1113 STRUM CO DRIVE FALLSTON, MARYLAND. I'VE HEARD WASHINGTON D. C S REFERRED TO AS THE LOGIC FREE ZONE. WHILE IT APPEARS THAT THAT ZONE HAS SPREAD TO ANNAPOLIS AND BEYOND TO THE COUNTIES HERE IN MARYLAND THE LOGIC FREE TITLE SHOULD INCLUDE COMMON SENSE ZONE, TOO. DURING HIS SUPPORTERS ARE HELPING ON THE RUINATION OF THIS STATE WITH HIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVE, ALSO UNDER THE GUISE OF AGING IN PLACE.

IT'S A NICE NAME TO MAKE IT PALATABLE TO UNSUSPECTING TAXPAYERS. THIS IS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S MOVING RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS INTO STABLE COMMUNITIES.

MANY BEING SINGLE FAMILY HOME AREAS. THIS SOCIAL EXPERIMENT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, WITH GREAT DETRIMENT TO THE LOCALE. DOES ANYONE AMONG YOU REMEMBER HOLLANDER RIDGE? HERE'S A QUICK HISTORY LESSON FOR THOSE WHO DON'T IT WAS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENCES THAT WERE BUILT SNUG UP AGAINST THE ROSEDALE COMMUNITY IN BALTIMORE COUNTY ROUTE 4095. IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT TO SURFACE AND TAKE OVER. IT WAS THE DOWNFALL OF THE COMMUNITY UNTIL IT WAS RAISED IN 2000. I PERSONALLY KNOW INDIVIDUALS WHO KISSED THE GROUND THE DAY OF THE RAISING RESEARCH IT. HER PICTURE WAS PRINTED IN THE SUN PAPERS AND KEEP IN MIND THAT HISTORY HAS A TENDENCY TO REPEAT ITSELF. PROUD THAT THE MAYOR OF HAVERTY GRACE STOOD UP TO ANNAPOLIS. I'M PROUD THAT OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE IS STANDING UP TO HIM. AND TONIGHT I LEARNED THAT I'M PROUD THAT YOU GUYS ARE STANDING UP ALSO FOR US. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I WANTED TO COME ON RECORD AND SAY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TUNING IN AND LISTENING AND WATCHING, AND MAYBE THIS IS THE ONLY INFORMATION THEY GET. THE BOW ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT IF COUNTIES AREN'T WILLING TO PARTICIPATE, ANNAPOLIS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH OUR COUNTY'S PROPERTY PROVED ME WRONG. I WISH THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE. PUT PERSONALITIES ASIDE, PUT THE EGOS ASIDE AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR HARFORD COUNTY. THERE'S MOTTO IS LEAVE NO ONE BEHIND AND HE'S CERTAINLY BENDING OVER BACKWARDS FOR THE ILLEGAL LAWBREAKERS COMING INTO THE STATE. HE'S GOT THE FUNDING FOR THEM FOR HOUSING FOR MEDICAL PRESCRIPTION DRUG BENEFITS, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME HE'S ACTUALLY REMOVING PRESCRIPTION DRUG COVERAGE FOR STATE GOVERNMENT RETIREES. AT THE END OF THE SHOOTER, THEY WILL NO LONGER HAVE STATE GOVERNMENT PRESCRIPTION DRUG COVERAGE. IT APPEARS SAYS THAT IT WASN'T HOLDING UP AS THERE'S RETIREES ARE BEING REPLACED WITH LAWBREAKERS. YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW THAT THE HARFORD COUNTY CONSTITUENCY IS UNHAPPY AND ANGRY ABOUT ALL OF THIS, SO I LEAVE YOU WITH THE WORDS OF SAINT THOMAS AQUINAS. HE WHO IS NOT ANGRY WHEN THERE WAS JUST CAUSE FOR ANGER IS IMMORAL. WHY BECAUSE I DON'T LOOKS TO THE GOOD OF JUSTICE. AND IF YOU CAN LIVE AMID INJUSTICE WITHOUT ANGER, YOU ARE IMMORAL AS WELL AS UNJUST. THANK YOU. AT SCHOOL SUPPLIES SCHOOL. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME IT ADDRESS, PLEASE. BEN TO 25 FARM ROUTE ROAD.

ABERDEEN MARYLAND. ACTUALLY I'M TALKING NOT ON A PERSONAL NOTE. I'M TALKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION.

I'M SORRY, JUST HAS TO BE ADJUSTED. UM I CAN'T BECAUSE THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND THERE'S NO ORGANIZATION THAT I'M, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR PREVENTION OF SINGLE SALMANIYA IZATION THAT AGAIN THE YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T HEARD VERY MUCH ABOUT RECENTLY.

UM ORGANIZATION HASN'T DONE A VERY GOOD JOB BEING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS IT USED TO BE. AND SO I WANT YOU TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SICKLE SOUND BECAUSE IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THIS AREA. THE NUMBERS ARE RISING, SO I STAYED WITH YOU. DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL. UM FORMWORK AND URGENT NEEDS OF THE ASSOCIATION OF PREVENTION OF SICKLE CELL ANEMIA MPS SEE A INCORPORATED IN DEEPLY ROOTED IN HARVARD CATTLE HAD A HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENS, UM, JUST ANY TYPE OF ADVOCACY THAT YOU CAN THINK OF IN THIS AREA AS WELL AS CECIL CANNON IN MR INSHORE. THIS NONPROFITS, ELLEN. IT IS CLEAR TO SERVE AS A BEACON OF HOPE AND SUPPORT FOR THOSE AFFECTED WITH SICKLE CELL ECONOMIA. MISSION NOT HAS CONTINUED AND POSES SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES TO OUR COMMUNITY AND RICE AND LIE ABOUT TO JOIN SOUTH EUROPE THERAPIES, BUT NOT EVERY SINGLE SIGN HERE ACTUALLY CAN UTILIZE THAT. WHOLESALE AND AMY AS A DISEASE THAT EFFECTS. BLACK INDIVIDUALS,

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HOWEVER, IT AFFECTS ALL CULTURES , AND IT SHORTENS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY BY MORE THAN 20 TO 30 YEARS. IN FACT, IT'S WHEN I WENT DOWN TO THE AVERAGE AGE IS 34. UM FEWER THAN TWO AND 16 RECEIVED THE RECOMMENDED SCREENING. BUT 2019. ASSOCIATION IN THE PAST YEAR WE'VE LOST MORE THAN FOUR OR FIVE WARRIORS. TOTAL EQUITY IS CENTRAL CHAIRMAN MISSION WITH THE ENSURES THAT EVERYONE HAS A FAN JUST OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THEIR HARDEST LEVEL OF HEALTH.

UNFORTUNATELY, MARGIN. WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THAT BECAUSE IT IS SPECIALIZED CARE TO UNDERSTAND.

IT'S UH, IT'S VERY SPECIALIZED CARE IN AMERICA ACCESS PERPETUATES DISPARITIES IN HEALTH OUTCOMES AND AS LAST REVISED CHALLENGES FACED BICYCLE CELLAR. IN THEIR FAMILIES, AND MANY TIMES THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY BE HELICOPTERED ALL THE WAY OUT OF, UM EASTERN SHORE, AND EVEN FROM HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY TO LIKE BALTIMORE, D, C AND OTHER STATES, AND WE HAVE TO TRY TO HELP. FOR THAT, OR AT LEAST GET THE RESOURCES TO DO THAT. UM INVENTIONS. A FUTURE WHERE EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO SPECIAL CARE, OR AT LEAST GETTING CLOSER TO WORK HERE. UM TO ACHIEVE THIS VISION MORE ACTIVELY SEEKING THE MURDER LOCATION. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD MORE. UM. WORRY ABOUT THIS HOTEL TAX AND WE'VE HEARD THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS BEEN, I GUESS ADVOCATING FOR IT. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PHYSICAL SPACE AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF ABERDEEN BECAUSE ONE OF OUR HISTORIC WALKER PONDS, AND I'M GONNA JUST FINISHING THE 30 SECONDS SECONDS. MISS BEN, YOUR TIME'S UP, OKAY, OKAY. WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO IS REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE. OKAY MORE THAT INFORMATION. WE'LL TRY TO WORK WITH YOU AS BEST WE CAN. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT. NO MORE SPEAKERS

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, MR PRESIDENT WITH NO MORE SPEAKERS WILL MOVE TO AGENDA NIGHT. EXCUSE ME, 16 BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR BENNETT. HELLO UM, IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK. SORRY TO MISS LAST WEEK . I HATE TO MISS HATE TO BE SICK , BUT IT IS GOOD TO BE BACK. UM TONIGHT WE WELCOME THE WHY YOUTH AND GOVERNMENT WAR DELEGATION TO THE COUNCIL LEGISLATIVE AIDE TOOK THEM ON A TOUR OF THE FACILITY AND WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED FOR A GOOD WHILE AND I ANSWERED SOME OF THEIR QUESTIONS. WHICH WAS A LOT OF FUN. IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH THEM. I THINK THE ADULT VOLUNTEERS THAT, UM THAT SUPPORT THEM EACH AND EVERY MEETING AND HELP MAKING TONIGHT NIGHTS LIKE TONIGHT. POSSIBLE THAT WAS REALLY SPECIAL. UM I WANT TO CONGRATULATE COUNCILMAN DEON GO THREE FOR HIS CELEBRATION TONIGHT. UM I WAS SICK LAST WEEK, SO I WASN'T REALLY ABLE TO DO MUCH, THEN BESIDES COUGH AND SNEEZE, UM AND TO COUNCILWOMAN BOIL, SADDLES CHAGRIN. I'M CONTINUING TO COFFIN SNEEZE ALL NIGHT TONIGHT, BUT I DON'T HAVE A FEVER. SO UM, I WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHY ATTENDED THE ABINGTON FIRE COMPANY AWARDS BANQUET. UM, BEFORE I WAS SICK UM, AND THAT WAS A REALLY SPECIAL NIGHT. REALLY, UH, BEAUTIFUL VENUE WITH GREAT FOOD. UM I WISH I HAD BROUGHT TUPPERWARE BECAUSE THEY WERE CRAB CAKES. AND BUT I WANT TO CONGRATULATE TINA IRVIN, NOAH DOTSON, JOSEPH DAVIS AND KENNETH VANDER WHEEL ON THEIR RECOGNITION AND CELEBRATION. I ALSO WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE ABBOT IN BELCAMP. PERRIMAN RIVERSIDE EMERTON CAB MEETING. AH WHICH SOME OF YOU IN ATTENDANCE WERE THERE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, UM, I WANT TO JUST REALLY STRESSED THESE CAB MEETINGS ARE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT AND, UH MUCH MORE UNSTRUCTURED SETTING WHERE WE HAD THE HEAD OF DEALT WITH US, AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A GREAT BACK AND FORTH. ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY DO. UM AND ALSO JUST AS A COMMUNITY SHARE CONCERNS. SHARE. UPDATES UPDATES FROM ANNAPOLIS UPDATES FROM THE COUNTY COUNCIL UPDATES FROM THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE, UM THESE CAB MEETINGS ARE REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES. SO IF YOU LIVE IN ABINGTON, BELCAMP, PERRIMAN, RIVERSIDE OR EMERTON, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, UH CONSIDER COMING TO THE NEXT CAB MEETING NEXT MONTH. UM, NEXT WEDNESDAY, IS THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS BY MAYOR BILL MARTIN THAT WILL BE AT THE VANDERVEER IN AND, UM I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET TICKETS AND TO COME TO HEAR FROM OUR MAYOR IN TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND HAVE DEGREES. UM THAT'S IT FOR ME TONIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR

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PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR BENNETT . MISS OTTO'S THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE THIS MORNING I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HIGHLANDS SCHOOL, READ A THON WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ TWO BOOKS. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK CLAUDIA TO THE HEAD OF THE SCHOOL FOR THAT INVITATION. THE HUMANE SOCIETY SHELTER HAS REACHED CRITICAL CAPACITY AFTER TAKING IN 34 NEW DOGS LAST WEEK.

UM IN ADDITION TO ADOPTERS, THE SHELTER'S LOOKING FOR FOSTER PARENTS WHO CAN GIVE HOMELESS DOG A TEMPORARY SPACE, UM, FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE INTERESTED. PLEASE CHECK THEIR WEBSITE FOR MORE DETAILS, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISSILES MR RILEY. TWO THINGS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO CARL DEMOS OF TROOP 809, WHO EARNED HIS EAGLE SCOUT. UM AND ALSO THE LAST THING I KNOW. TONY MENTIONED IT, BUT MY GRANDSON SAID POP, YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT. HARFORD TECH WRESTLING. THEY WON THEIR REGIONAL FINALS. SO TONY, THANKS . I WAS SICK LAST WEEK, BUT I APPRECIATE IT AND, UH, BILL HARFORD TECH. YOU MR RILEY, MR GINGER DENNIS. SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE DEANNE AGAIN ON ON A LIVING TREASURE. UM, I, UH I WISH HIM ALL THE BASKET MOVING FORWARD. I'M JUST HOPING HE KEEPS IT SHORT AND SWEET TONIGHT LIKE I AM. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR JANITOR, MR PENMAN. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT TO WANNA CONGRATULATE YOU, DION ON ON IT. AN AWARD. WELL DESERVED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. I'M GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LONG WINDED. UM AS, UM AGO. REP. THERE'S SEVERAL LEGISLATIVE AH, INITIATIVES DOWN ANNAPOLIS, AND THE THEME OF THIS IS GOING TO BE TAXATION AND FEES. WE'VE SEEN IT ON THE COUNTY LEVEL, WHETHER IT'S TRASHED E, UH 911 FEES, THOSE YOUR TAXES AND THIS IS WHAT THE STATE IS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING OR TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. LET'S HOPE MOST OF THESE DON'T PASS. HOUSE BILL 909 PROPERTY TAX COUNTY AUTHORITY TO SET SPECIAL RATES OF AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILS OF ANWAR CITY OR ANY GOVERNING BODY OF THE COUNTY TO SET SPECIAL PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR CERTAIN SUB CLASSES. SO THE STATE IS TRYING TO INVENT WAYS TO CREATE TAX DOLLARS AND YOU'LL SEE A TREND HERE. UH HOUSE BILL 924 ESTABLISHING THE BALTIMORE REGION CAPITAL REGION AND SOUTHERN MARYLAND REGION TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES TO DEVELOP UH WELL, THIS IS A GOOD ONE. HERE EXCUSE ME, HB 924 TRANSPORTATION REGIONAL, UM, TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES ESTABLISHING THE BALTIMORE REGION CAPITAL REGION IN SOUTHERN MARYLAND REGION TRANSPORTATION AFTERWARDS TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT CERTAIN CONGESTION RELIEF PLANS AND THAT WE WOULD APPLY FOR THAT. AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, INFRASTRUCTURE IS AN ISSUE, SO WE'LL LOOK TO SEE HOW THAT BILL GOES FORWARD. GOING BACK TO FEES. H BILL 940 AUTHORIZING THE USE OF REVENUE FOR DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES TO FINANCE THE CAPITAL COST FOR REPLACEMENT MAINTENANCE AND EXPANSION. PUBLIC WORKS. UM ACTUALLY, MAKEOVER IS SUPPORTING THAT ONE. THAT'S JUST SENDING MONEY BACK TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE. HOUSE BILL 1215 TRANSPORTATION FINANCING RETAIL DELIVERY FEE, ESTABLISHING A RETAIL DELIVERY FEE AND TRANSPORTATION NETWORK COMPANY IMPACT THE ACCOUNT AND THE TRANSPORTATION FUNDS. SO YOU GET SOMETHING DELIVERED. THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEE. UM H BILL HB 1407 PROHIBITING COUNTIES FROM ESTABLISHING ZONING LAWS OR OTHER REGULATIONS THAT WERE STRICT OR PROHIBIT THE CONSTRUCTION OR OPERATION OF TIER ONE RENEWABLE SOURCES, GENERATING SYSTEMS AND FACILITIES. SO AGAIN STATE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT OUR ZONING LAWS HERE IN THE COUNTY, UM.

ANOTHER ZONING BILL, SENATE BILL 906 HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONVERSION OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS FOR RESIDENTIAL USE, REQUIRING EACH COUNTY IN BALTIMORE CITY TO INVENTORY VACANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES DEVELOP A PLAN TO CONVERT VACANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. SO WHAT'S A VACANT? IS IT 1234 YEARS? WHEN DO WE ESTABLISH THE VACANT PROPERTY TO TURN OVER TO HOUSING, SO WE'LL LOOK TO SEE HOW THAT BILL GOES IN ANNAPOLIS? SENATE BILL 1092, INCREASING THE MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION EMERGENCY MEDICAL SYSTEM SURCHARGE TO $40 PER YEAR FOR CERTAIN MOTOR VEHICLES AND PROVIDING FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF REVENUE DERIVED FOR THAT FROM THAT SURCHARGE SO AND THEN CLOSING ON SENATE BILL 766. WE SHOULD ALSO KNOW TO SENATE BILL 766. IT IS SAD THAT BIG GOVERNMENT ALWAYS FOCUSES ON TAXES INSTEAD OF REVENUE STREAMS . WE SEE THAT HERE IN A COUNTY BILL 766 THE FAIR SHARE FOR MARYLAND ACT OF 2024 IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE AFFAIR. THIS BILL IS IN A ATTEMPT TO INCREASE THE TAX RECEIPTS FOR PROFITING FROM THE DEATH OF MARYLANDERS. THE BILL REDUCES THE ESTATE TAX EXCLUSION FROM 5 MILLION TO 2 MILLION, MEANING IF YOU'RE COMBINED ASSET IS WORTH MORE

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THAN $2 MILLION OF BENEFICIARY WILL OWE TAXES TO THE STATE UPON YOUR DEATH, AND THAT MAY SOUND LIKE THE 1% RICH PROBLEM, BUT AS A HOME VALUES OF PROPERTY VALUES CONTINUE TO RISE. THIS BECOMES A MIDDLE CLASS PROBLEM. FOR EXAMPLE, AVERAGE HOME SALE PRICE IN MARYLAND IS AROUND $401,000 IN BOSTON. IT'S ABOUT $685,000. WE MUST ALSO CONSIDER THE RURAL FARMING COMMUNITIES. THE AVERAGE FARM PRICE SELLS FOR ABOUT $1.1 MILLION. THIS LAW WILL EXPLODES THOUSANDS OF MORE HARD WORKING SPOUSES, FAMILIES, FRIENDS TO INCREASE DEATH TAXES. WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT BE ABLE TO TAX YOU UP TO 16% OF YOUR STATE AFTER YOUR DEATH? IMAGINE YOUR HOME PROPERTY INVESTMENTS AND FAMILY ESTATE BEING WORTH TOO MUCH TO KEEP. IMAGINE HAVING TO SELL YOUR HOME OR FARM TO PAY THE DEBT TAXES IN YOUR INHERITANCE. UM THE THIS BILL DOES NOT CREATE REVENUE. IT CREATES CAPITAL FLIGHT. PEOPLE WILL NOT BE COMING UP TO MARYLAND AND THEY WILL BE LEAVING JUST LIKE THEY'RE LEAVING A CALIFORNIA AT THIS BILL. UM YOU WILL DRIVE AGAIN.

MARYLANDERS OUT. AH MORE TAXES ON SHRINKING TAX BASE DOES NOT CREATE REVENUE. UM AND I'M HOPING THE DELEGATION FOR HARFORD COUNTY OPPOSED THIS IN THIS BILL DIES WITH THAT, MR PRESIDENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MR PEN AND MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT . FAIL UM, AT LEAST WE CAN THANK OUR RESIDENT COMPLAINER WHO COMES HERE EVERY WEEK AND GETS UP ON MICROPHONE PICKS ON SOMEBODY. THIS WEEK. HE GOT ON ALL SEVEN OF US EQUALS SO WE REALLY WE MUST HAVE REALLY GOT TO IN THIS TIME. HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT ME, DEAR. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR HAT ON. AH LISTEN, I YOU KNOW, I GOTTA THANK MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE. I KNOW THEY WERE PROBABLY FROSTING AT THE BIT TRYING TO KEEP QUIET ABOUT THIS ALL WEEK, BUT UM, YOU REALLY PULLED IT OFF. I MEAN, I WALKED IN HERE AND THEN MY WIFE WAS COMING BECAUSE SHE SAW ME AT THE MEETING TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND EAT LATER. SHE'S GOING ALREADY. WELL PROBABLY BECAUSE HER SISTER'S WATCHING MOM AND SO OF COURSE I KNOW YOUR MOM'S 98. SHE PROBABLY HAD TO GO AND TAKE CARE OF MOM. UH, BECAUSE SISTERS GOT GOT TO DRIVE UP TO PENNSYLVANIA. BUT I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES. UH, AND YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I STAYED IN COUNTY BUSINESS AND DIDN'T GO TO ANNAPOLIS STORE GOT UM BATED IN THE SAME THING AND IN D C, BUT YOU KNOW JUST WHAT I LIKE ABOUT COUNTY POLITICS IS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE UP TO THE ELECTION DAY. YOU MAY HAVE YOUR DIVIDED THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS. UH, OPINIONS. BUT AFTER THE ELECTION, WHICH ALWAYS LIKED ABOUT THE COUNTY ABOUT THE COUNCIL, AND, UH, IS THAT THAT WAS OVER FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, UM THREE YEARS AND 29 DAYS. AH! UH BECAUSE WE WORK TOGETHER ALL OF US WORK TOGETHER. REGARDLESS OF PARTY. WE KNOW THAT SUBJECT DOESN'T EVEN COME UP. SO THAT THAT. WHAT WAS DONE UP HERE TONIGHT WITH SHOWED THAT THE EFFECT OF UH WHAT GOOD IT IS IN POLITICS IN HARFORD COUNTY THAT PEOPLE ARE ALL HERE FOR THE PEOPLE. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT ON THE BILL AND SOME AMENDMENTS. NOT UNUSUAL. UM, WELL, EVERYBODY HAS THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE AT HEART AS WE ALL DO, UH, AGAIN . THINK ENOUGH FOR I'LL GET EVEN WITH MY WIFE. WHEN I GET HOME. HE PULLED THIS OFF AND THAT'S UNUSUAL FOR HER BECAUSE SHE CAN'T SHUT UP. KNOW WHO SHE IS WATCHING US. UH OH, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE ANY TIME THERE'S A GIFT COMING UP BIRTHDAY COMING OR ANNIVERSARY OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, SHE'LL GET A GIFT AND SHE'LL HAVE IT. A WEEK THREE OR FOUR DAYS AHEAD OF TIME, AND SHE CAN'T STAND IT. YOU KNOW, SHE CAN'T KEEP HER MOUTH QUIET ABOUT THE GIFTS YOU GOT, AND HE WANTS TO GIVE IT TO YOU BEFORE AND I THINK YOUR TIME'S UP FOR YOU GET IN TROUBLE. MY WIFE THINKS I THINK YOU'VE SAID ENOUGH WIFE'S DOWN. BETTER LET THAT GO, BUT, YEAH, I THINK AND I THINK ALL THE PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE. I COULDN'T BELIEVE THE CROWD OF PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE. I CERTAINLY CAN'T THANK YOU.

ENOUGH AND AGAIN. I WASN'T SURPRISED. I WAS SHOCKED. I THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON LAST THURSDAY, TONY AND I, WE WENT UP TO THE GREAT WITH LODGE BECAUSE, UH, 40 BUSINESS ASSOCIATION HAD THEIR MONTHLY MEETING UP THERE AND WE HADN'T BEEN SO I WANTED TO SEE GRAY WOLF TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE AND ALL IT'S CERTAINLY IT'S QUITE A PLACE PARTICULARLY IF YOU TAKE YOUR KIDS AND YOUR CHILDREN THERE. IT'S FABULOUS, YOU KNOW.

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FOR US OLD TIMERS. IT'S NOT SUCH A GOOD PLACE FOR US, BUT, UM, TAKE YOUR CHILDREN. YOUR GRANDCHILDREN HAVE TAKE THAT GONNA HAVE A GREAT TIME. BUT WHAT? WHAT A COUPLE OF THINGS SURPRISED ME. ONE IS THAT, UH SO YOU'LL KNOW IF YOU EVER GO UP THERE AND MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT SOME CREDIT CARDS BECAUSE THEY TAKE NEW CASH. NOTHING THAT THEY SELL. TAKES UH ANY CASH BECAUSE THEY ROUTE 40 BUSINESS SEARCH. YOU HAD A BAR SET UP FOR US. I GO OVER TO BUY A BEER. AND WITH SIX BUCKS, I PUT SIX BUCKS DOWN. WOMAN SAID TO TAKE IT BACK. WE DON'T TAKE ANY CASH PERIOD. AND THEN I NOTICED. COMING HERE TONIGHT. I WANTED TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF THE MACHINE IN THE OTHER ROOM TO PUT IT WOULDN'T EVEN TAKE MONEY THAT EVEN THE MACHINE OUT HERE WOULDN'T TAKE MONEY ONLY TAKES CREDIT CARDS, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING. UH, I HOPE NOT. BUT UM THE, UM. I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME PEOPLE UP UPDATE OWNS MARINE MAX, YOU KNOW, AND THE JOB OF TOWN MARINA , WHICH IS YOU KNOW THEY DECIDED TO CLOSE DOWN ON MAY 1 WE'RE TRYING TO FIND SOME INVESTORS IS SOMETHING TO GO AND TO BUY THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US THAT SOMEHOW A RUMOR WENT AROUND THAT THE MARINE MAC WAS GOING TO DONATE THAT TO CHARITY. THAT'S A BEAR RUMORED BECAUSE REMAX. DON'T GIVE ANYTHING ANYBODY. UM AH. BUT WE HAVE I FOUND ABOUT TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED. IT DEPENDS ON MARINE MAX AND HOW THEY REALLY WANT TO SELL. THEY WANT TO SELL IT. I TALKED TO THE REAL ESTATE GUY FOR MARINE MAXIMUM.

CLEARWATER FLORIDA HIS NAME'S SAM LOWRY, AND THEY SAID THAT THERE IS CONFINED MILLION DOLLARS SORT OF PLACE. I THINK THEY'RE ABOUT ME AND A HALF TO 2 MILLION OVER PRICED A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH ANYWHERE NEAR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE MARIE MAX HASN'T DONE IT. HOPEFULLY, UH AH, THE BRIDGE AS YOU PROBABLY HEARD.

THEY'RE GOING TO REPLACE ALL THE RAILROAD BRIDGES FROM BALTIMORE ALL THE WAY UP TO NEW YORK. IT'S A $6.9 BILLION WITH A B PROJECT. THE GUNPOWDER RIVER BRIDGE IS GOING TO COST 30 MILLION BUSH RIVER BRIDGE IS GOING TO COST 18 MILLION. IT'S NOT AS LONG AS THE OTHER ONE. THE BIG ONE, THOUGH.

UH UM MR BENNETT PROBABLY KNOWS THIS. THE BRIDGE OF THE BIG BRIDGE IN HAVE GO OR HAVING GRACE TO CECIL COUNTY UNDERSTAND AREA. THEY'RE ALREADY DOING SOME WORK ON THAT. AH OF COURSE YOU KNOW HOW TALL AND BIG IT IS THAT THAT BRIDGE ALONE IS GONNA COST $1.9 BILLION. SO IT'S A HUGE PROJECT WE'RE FIGHTING TO GET IT RAISED. THAT'S THE CONCERN WE HAVE FOR BOTH BUSH RIVER AND IN THE GUNPOWDER AND PEOPLE BECAUSE . IF YOU KNOW WHEN HE BUILT IT 125 YEARS AGO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A BIG BOATS, YOU KNOW? AND THEY HAD ROBOTS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT RAISED UNLEASHED UP ABOUT 10 FT. DO THAT, THEN IT WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THE MARINA MUCH MORE VALUABLE AND HELP OUT.

ALTHOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF VOTERS IN JOPPATOWNE, A LOT OF VOTERS IN THE BUSH RIVER ENTERS TO YACHT CLUBS UP THERE. THERE'S A THERE'S A MARINE UP THERE AND THEY PROBABLY WE ESTIMATE. IT'S PROBABLY 1000 BOATS UP THEIR VOTERS UP THERE, AND THE PROBLEM OF THERE IS THAT BRIDGES UP.

THEY OPENED THAT ONE. IT WILL OPEN THE GUNPOWDER ONE AND ON SUMMERTIME FROM MORE THEY TO LABOR DAY OPENED FOUR TIMES EVERY WEEKEND COST ABOUT 13 $14,000 EVERY TIME THEY OPEN IT.

SO WHEN HE BUILT, THE NEW BRIDGES ARE GOING TO BUILD IT UP 3 FT. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. BAD NEWS, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN IT. SO THE PEOPLE DO ALL THE VOTERS UP. THERE WERE ONLY REALLY RAISING HELL, BECAUSE THEY NOW IT OPENS ON THE WEEKEND SO THEY CAN TAKE THE THROUGH ANY SIZE BOOT. AND SO THEY PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO VOTE. UM, TO FINISH IT, UM. OUR NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING. WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITIES THERE. IT'S ON MARCH 4 AS OUR NEXT MEETING. AND I JUST I'M GLAD THAT KRISTEN KIRKWOOD IS GOING TO BE THERE. SHE SECTOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HARFORD LAND PREFER LIVING TRUST. AND ALSO TERRY TERRY HANLEY'S COMING DIRECTOR OF PARTS. UH DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, AND SHE'S GONNA SHOW US OVERHEAD VIDEO AND, UH, ON THE LAND PURCHASED AT 129 ACRES. THEY PURCHASE A JOPPATOWNE AND THE 98 ACRES THAT THEY HAVE IN EDGEWOOD. BOTH THOSE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO BE, UM UH, CHANGE TO OUR ABSOLUTELY OPEN UP AS BRAND NEW PARKS IN BOTH PLACES, SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY ABOUT BOTH OF US.

THANK YOU, MR PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE COUNCIL HERE FOR WHAT YOU DID

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TONIGHT. I DON'T BELIEVE IT. MR GUTHRIE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS OF FEW MINUTES AGO

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BECAUSE YOU'RE CORRECT. THIS COUNCIL WORKS TOGETHER EVERY DAY ON EVERY ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE THEM. I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING ABLE TO TALK TO EVERY ONE OF THESE MEMBERS ON EVERY ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE US AND UM, LIKE YOU SAID, SOMETIMES YOU AGREE, AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WORKED TOGETHER TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS HARFORD COUNTY. UM AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN ON YOUR LIVING TREASURE. IT IS WELL DESERVED. AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. THERE'S AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE THERE'S MEETINGS ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY, BUT I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE PLANNING. EXCUSE ME, PLEASE ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGING COMMITTEE MET LAST WEEK IN MY OFFICE ALONG WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, MR BLOOM, QUIST. MR CARNEY FOR THE COUNCIL , MS DIXON FOR THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE BUDGET ITEMS MISS SPENCE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE BUDGET ITEMS NESTS NECESSARY FOR THE COMMITTEES TO MOVE FORWARD AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THEM HIRING AN ADMIN FOR THOSE BOARDS. ALSO ATTENDED THE HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. COMMUNITY BOARD MEETING. UM ALSO LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT THE RIGHT TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. THE IMPACT THE WORK GROUP THAT MET OVER AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING. WE TALKED ABOUT THESE, THE SURVEY THAT WE DID IN 2004, THAT COMPANY ACTUALLY IS STILL AVAILABLE. THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE POSSIBILITY OF USING THEM AS A GOOD SALT. AND AGAIN. I THINK IT WAS TISCHLER BUYS. UM AND IN THAT MEETING WHERE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES FROM PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT LICENSES AND PERMITS, UM. OBVIOUSLY THE ADMINISTRATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE BOARD OF ED AND, OF COURSE, MYSELF AS A COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE, UM A LOT OF THINGS WERE DISCUSSED AND I'M SURE THERE WILL BE OTHER MEETINGS TO FOLLOW SUIT. UM. THE ONE THING THAT I DID THURSDAY EVENING. I BELIEVE IT WAS, WHICH WAS A GREAT, UH THING TO BE A PART OF AS WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED OVER THE YEARS, AND MR RILEY TALKED ABOUT ONE EARLIER WAS THE EAGLE SCOUT COURT OF HONOR FOR YOUNG JASON MOSES TROOPS TO 38 AT ST IGNATIUS CHURCH, AND MISS SADDLES WAS OUT OF THE OUT OF AWAY AND I WENT ON HER BEHALF AND, UM YOU KNOW, GREAT CROWD. I THINK THERE WAS 50 OR 60. PEOPLE THERE AT LEAST, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE REALLY PROUD ABOUT IS THAT TROOP TO 38 HAS PRODUCED OVER 150 EAGLE SCOUTS. IT'S AMAZING AND THIS YOUNG MAN'S PROJECT, HIS EAGLE PROJECT WAS A SENSORY GARDEN IN HOWARD AGREES THAT VETERANS PARK BEHIND CITIZENS NURSING HOME SO JUST JUST A GREAT EVENT AND HATS OFF TO ALL OF THEM. AND WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND

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