Apr 01, 2025 County Council

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SOMETHING. I WENT TO TONI. YOU GUYS READY? YEAH. SO IF I MAY HAVE YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE WE START HERE, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THE CHAMBERS BEFORE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES. THERE WILL BE NO APPLAUDING. THERE WILL BE NO OUTBURST. IF SO, I WILL CLEAR THIS CHAMBER. AND YOU WILL ALL STAND OUT ON THE STREET UNTIL IT'S YOUR TURN. ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER, AND YOU BE RESPECTFUL OF THE SPEAKER. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, SIR. STAND BY. FIVE, FOUR. GOOD EVENING. CHAIR. CALLS

[a. Resolution 004-25 (Master Water and Sewer Plan Update Spring 2025) ]

PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL FOR THE NOW ENTITLED PROSPECT WOOD SUBDIVISION CREATES FIVE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. THEREFORE, THIS PROPERTY IS BEING MOVED FROM THE SEWER SIX CATEGORY INTO THE SEWER THREE CATEGORY. NEXT IS CHAPTER THREE, SECTION 3.13 ENTITLED PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS.

THIS WAS REVISED TO REFLECT NEW AND COMPLETED DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS. THESE REVISIONS INCLUDE NEW DEVELOPMENTS WITH PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL. DEVELOPMENTS WHICH APPROVE PRELIMINARY PLANS HAVE EXPIRED, CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED OR THE PROJECT IS NO LONGER ACTIVE. ONE NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN ADDED THAT IS PROSPECT WOODS SUBDIVISION, PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED IN REVISION ONE, AND THE ADDITION OF TWO PROJECTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED EVERMORE DUE TO THE PURCHASE BY THE COUNTY AND JOPPA CROSSING, WHICH CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE NEXT THREE PAGES IN THE WORKBOOK COVER TABLE THREE ONE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS.

TABLE THREE ONE IS A TOOL USED BY THE DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER TO ASSESS THE AVAILABILITY, DEMAND AND CAPACITY OF OUR SYSTEM WITH PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNITS OR TO USE TO EASILY ACCOUNT FOR THE PROJECT'S DEMAND AND CAPACITY NEEDS. THIS TABLE WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS FOR SEVEN PROJECTS. THOSE PROJECTS BEING THE REMOVAL OF THE EVERMORE AND JOPPA CROSSING, THE ADDITION OF PROSPECT WOODS, AND THE ADJUSTMENTS TO JAMES RUN, RIDGLEY RESERVE, TREMBLE MEADOWS AND VAN BIBBER TO REFLECT DEVOTE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. THE FINAL PAGE OF TABLE THREE ONE SHOWS THE REVISIONS TO THE SUMMARY OF THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL, BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIAL ZONED UNITS WITH APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLANS. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NET CHANGE IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS WAS A REDUCTION OF 512 UNITS, WITH 1623 UNITS REMAINING. THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A BUSINESS ZONE WAS REDUCED BY 60 UNITS, FOR A TOTAL OF 399 UNITS, AND THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE ACREAGE. THE NEXT THREE PAGES ARE FOR TABLE THREE EIGHT PLANNED WATERWORKS, IMMEDIATE FIVE YEAR AND TEN YEAR PRIORITIES. THIS TABLE WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT PROJECTS FOR THE DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER, AS WELL AS REQUESTS MADE BY THE CITY OF HAVERTY, GRACE AND THE CITY OF ABERDEEN AND MARYLAND. AMERICAN WATER, WHICH IS THE WATER PROVIDER FOR THE TOWN OF BEL AIR. THE TABLE IN THIS WORKBOOK INCLUDES ONLY THE PROJECTS TO WHICH CHANGES ARE PROPOSED. A COMPREHENSIVE TABLE SHOWING ALL CAPITAL WATER PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY AND THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER THREE OF THE OVERALL WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT. EXHIBIT THREE ONE HARFORD COUNTY HYDRAULIC DIAGRAM AND MAJOR COUNTY WATER FEATURES, EXISTING AND PROPOSED, WAS MODIFIED TO CONVERT THE RIDGELY'S RESERVE AND GRACE HALL WATER BOOSTER STATIONS FROM PROPOSED TO EXISTING. DUE TO THE COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION. NEXT IS CHAPTER FOUR TABLE FOR TWO PLANNED CAPITAL SEWER PROJECTS, IMMEDIATE FIVE YEAR AND TEN YEAR PRIORITIES. THE NEXT TWO PAGES, LIKE THE PROVISION FOR WATER, WERE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE REQUEST MADE BY THE TOWN OF BEL AIR AND THE CITY OF ABERDEEN. THE TABLE IN THIS WORKBOOK INCLUDES ONLY PROJECTS TO WHICH CHANGES ARE PROPOSED. A COMPREHENSIVE TABLE SHOWING ALL THE CAPITAL SEWER PROJECTS CAN BE FOUND IN THE OVERALL WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT. THE NEXT TWO

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EXHIBIT 4-1 HARFORD COUNTY. EXISTING AND FUTURE SEWER SYSTEMS WAS MODIFIED TO REMOVE THE HARFORD SQUARE PUMP STATION AND ADD THE FOREST HILL ESTATES AS A FUTURE PUMP STATION DUE TO APPROVED CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. THE FINAL SECTION IN THE WORKBOOK IS INCLUDES THE REQUEST MADE BY THOSE BY THE PROSPECT WOODS DEVELOPMENT AND THEN ALSO THE TOWN OF BEL AIR, MARYLAND, AMERICAN CITY OF HAVRE DE GRACE AND CITY OF ABERDEEN. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPRING 2024 WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, CHRIS, FOR YOUR UPDATE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THAT YOU SPENT WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING OVER THE UPDATE IN A MUCH MORE THOROUGH FASHION. COUNCIL AT THIS TIME QUESTIONS MR. BENNETT. HELLO. GOOD TO BE WITH YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR MEETING EARLIER TODAY WITH ME, SO THAT WE COULD DISCUSS THIS ALL IN DETAIL.

YOU'RE WELCOME. I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS THEN, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM. YOU KNOW, ONE POINT IN OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS I WAS ASKING ABOUT. HOW WE CAN GET PEOPLE ON WELLS TO BE HOOKED UP WITH WATER AND SEWER IF THEIR WELLS WERE TO EVER, YOU KNOW, BECOME CONTAMINATED OR A HEALTH RISK. AND YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TREMENDOUS COST INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY ONCE PEOPLE ARE OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE ON GETTING THEM HOOKED UP TO WATER AND SEWER. AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THE WORK TO PREVENT WELLS FROM BECOMING CONTAMINATED SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE SAFE DRINKING WATER IN THEIR HOMES. AND SO WE'RE NOT RUNNING MILES AND MILES OF PIPE ACROSS THE COUNTY.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE? WHILE THERE IS A RELATIVELY LARGE AUDIENCE ON GOOD PRACTICES, AS FAR AS PRESERVING OUR WELLS AND TAKING GOOD CARE OF OUR SEPTIC SYSTEMS? SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP THOSE THINGS RUNNING SMOOTH ACROSS THE COUNT, THAT WELLS AND PRIVATE SEPTIC WOULD REALLY BE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT. QUESTION. WE DEAL WITH WATER AND SEWER, WHICH IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ENTITY. MAINTENANCE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE. AND IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS WITH YOUR SYSTEM, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO WATER AND SEWER AND SEE IF THERE'S AVAILABILITY OR WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANKS. MR. BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE, MR. GINGER? SURE. CHRIS, THANKS TO YOU AND BILL.

AND TODAY FOR UPDATES ON THIS. I KNOW I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND APPARENTLY YOU GUYS DID DID A GOOD JOB ANSWERING THEM. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS THOROUGH. SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS. I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK WITH ME ON THE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE RED PUMP. SO SOME OF THE STUFF ON HERE, LIKE YOU SAID, EXPIRED. WE JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK I'M ALL GOOD. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, MR. GINGER. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO BILL

[b. Bill 25-002 (Comprehensive Zoning-Harford County Zoning Maps) ]

AND WITH ME TONIGHT, I HAVE TO MY LEFT, ALEX RAWLS, WHO IS CHIEF OF LONG RANGE PLANNING,

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THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT INFLUENCE THAT. AND ALSO, WHILE IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, THE COUNCIL OR COUNTY EXECUTIVE CAN INITIATE A COMPREHENSIVE ZONING AT ANY TIME FOR ANY AREA OF THE COUNTY, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE ENTIRE COUNTY, AND IT ALLOWS AT THAT TIME FOR CITIZENS TO REQUEST ZONING CHANGES TO THEIR PROPERTY. IN ESSENCE, WHAT THE PROCESS IS, IS THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAPS AND EVALUATING THEM, BUT ALSO ALLOWING THE CITIZENS TO REQUEST REZONING OF THEIR PROPERTY. AND WE REVIEW ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS. AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT TO ENSURE AND TRANSPARENCY, WE MADE SURE THAT WE PUBLISHED ALL THE APPLICATIONS ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. ALL THE INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE FOR THE CITIZENS TO VIEW. WHAT WE HAD IS WHAT THE CITIZENS HAD THAT WAS VERY BENEFICIAL DURING THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE ZONING. WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ON THAT, SO WE KEPT IT THE SAME. ANYBODY COULD RECEIVE WHATEVER WE SAW, THE CITIZENS SAW, WE CAREFULLY REVIEWED THOSE APPLICATIONS. THE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES WITHIN THE COUNTY, AG PRESERVATION, HEALTH DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, WATER AND SEWER, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, ROADS AND OTHER VARIOUS COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM INTERNAL AS WELL AS WE REVIEWED CITIZEN COMMENT AS WELL THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US IN VARIOUS MEANS, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH EMAIL, SNAIL MAIL, OR COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED AT THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS. WE DID RECEIVE A TOTAL OF 66 APPLICATIONS. ONE WAS WITHDRAWN. SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAD 65 APPLICATIONS THAT WE WERE REVIEWING. THIS IS A HISTORICALLY LOW NUMBER GIVING PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE ZONING REVIEWS. I'VE BEEN IN EVERY COMPREHENSIVE ZONING REVIEW SINCE 2005. THE LAST TIME AROUND, WE HAD ROUGHLY 115 APPLICATIONS. THERE WERE A COUPLE COUNTY ISSUES THAT WE DID HAVE IN THERE, BUT 115 THAT WE DID RECEIVE FROM CITIZENS. AND BY MY COUNT, IN 2008, WE HAD 327 APPLICATIONS AND OVER 400IN 1997. IN 2005, THAT COMPREHENSIVE ZONING WAS VETOED BY THEN COUNTY EXECUTIVE CRAIG. THAT'S WHY WE DID IT AGAIN IN 2008. THE SIGNIFICANT LACK OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THIS TIME AROUND, COMPARED TO PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE ZONING, TELLS US A STORY THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS REDEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY AS RAW LAND WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR REZONING BECAUSE

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THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, MR. GRIMM. COUNCIL QUESTIONS. MR. BENNETT. HELLO. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU FOR MEETING AND TALKING THROUGH ALL THESE APPLICATIONS AND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. ONE BY ONE. I WAS CURIOUS AGAIN, JUST WITH THE AUDIENCE WE HAVE, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO, IT'S TEN OR SO PLACES WHERE PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE PAB DIDN'T ALIGN IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION. AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST RELEVANT PIECES FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, SINCE THERE WAS A DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO BODIES. AND IF YOU COULD MAYBE TALK THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE EXAMPLES JUST FOR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THOUGHT IN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? SURE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BENNETT. THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DEBATE OVER THOSE APPLICATIONS. AND WHAT I'LL SAY IS, IN MY OPINION, AND I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT THAT MAY SPEAK. I CAN SPEAK FURTHER TO THAT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I THINK THEY TOOK A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO LOOKING AT THE REZONING REQUESTS. AND IN CERTAIN INSTANCES, THEY FELT THAT WHERE THERE WERE POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS, THEY DID NOT WANT TO RECOMMEND REZONING OF THOSE PROPERTIES. SO AGAIN, THAT IS REALLY A BROAD BRUSH. BROAD BRUSH. LOOK AT WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED AND WHY THEY RECOMMENDED THOSE OR DID NOT RECOMMEND IN FAVOR OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, OR DIFFERENTLY THAN THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING. BUT AGAIN, THOSE QUESTIONS MAY COME UP OR THOSE COMMENTS MAY COME UP FROM SOME PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON, HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE 45 THIS EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT. OKAY, SO WITH 45 SPEAKERS, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS TIME AT THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER AGAIN AND LET'S MOVE ALONG. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE YOUR FULL THREE MINUTES, WE GET IT. WE UNDERSTAND IT. CALL YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JOHN GAFFNEY, FOLLOWED BY NANCY DANCE. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS. AND THE PROPERTY NUMBER THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO. MY NAME IS PATRICK GAFFNEY. MY ADDRESS IS 2501 OLD JOPPA ROAD, JOPPA, MARYLAND.

21085. I AM OPPOSING APPLICATION B-009. SO. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANKS FOR SEEING ME. I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT I SUPPORT BILL 25 002 AND THE MOTION THAT NO REZONING CHANGES SHOULD BE MADE TO THIS LAND. WE ASK THAT NO AMENDMENTS BE MADE AND THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, DISTRICT B ASSESSMENT SHOWS THAT THE ZONING REQUEST IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE MAP, AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. ANY CHANGES TO THIS PROPERTY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING AND ILLEGAL. THIS AREA CANNOT HANDLE REZONING DUE TO LACK OF COUNTY RESOURCES. NO WATER AND SEWER SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE OR PLANNED FOR THIS AREA. TRAFFIC ASSESSMENTS SUBMITTED TO YOU BY SENATOR JENNINGS SHOW THIS AREA CANNOT HANDLE INCREASED TRAFFIC OF ANY SORT. ALSO, THE STATE OF MARYLAND ACKNOWLEDGES A CONCERNING TREND IN FOREST LOSS AND HAS A GOAL OF NO NET LOSS OF FOREST AND LEGISLATES MAINTAINING 40% OF TREE CANOPY COVER. THE TREE SOLUTIONS NOW ACT SUGGEST THIS COULD SUCCEED IF EXISTING TREE CANOPY IS PROTECTED. MARYLAND'S GOAL IS TO PROTECT EXISTING FORESTS, NOT

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40 ACRES OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE WOULD BE DISASTROUS. TOXIC RUNOFF WOULD BE SENT THROUGH THESE WETLANDS INTO THE GUNPOWDER RIVER, JUST A FEW HUNDRED YARDS AWAY. FROM THERE, IT FLOWS INTO THE BIRD RIVER, WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE MOST SEDIMENT IMPAIRED RIVER ON THE WESTERN SHORE OF MARYLAND. SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE. LIKE THE EMBARRASSING CONSTRUCTION SITE AT RIDGELY'S RESERVE. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ECOLOGICAL DISASTER IN OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY. LEAVE THIS FOREST ALONE, PLEASE. SO IN SUMMARY, I'D SAY THERE'S NO NEED TO BUILD HERE. THERE'S SO MANY EMPTY BUILDINGS AND UNUSED PARKING LOTS CLOSE BY WHICH SHOULD BE USED INSTEAD OF RE. INSTEAD OF DESTROYING CRITICAL FORESTS AND WETLANDS, JOPPA IS PEACEFUL AND ENJOYABLE. IT'S WHY WE LIVE HERE. REZONING THIS PARCEL WOULD DESTROY ALL THAT WE LOVE AND HOLD DEAR. IT SHOULD BE LEFT AS AGRICULTURAL AND NEVER REZONED. SO PLEASE STAND BEHIND THE PEOPLE OF JOPPA AND PLEASE OPPOSE B009 AND SAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MA'AM.

NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE PROPERTY YOU'RE SPEAKING TO, I AM NANCY DANCE, 4051 NORTHVILLE ROAD. AND THAT'S IN JARRETTSVILLE, BUT CLOSEST TO THE CROSSROADS KNOWN AS MADONNA.

I AM SPEAKING TO APPLICATION D-003. I'M HERE TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT THE LEGISLATION AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED. AS IT IS WRITTEN NOW, I SUPPORT THE DENIAL OF APPLICATION. B-003. IT IS MY HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL VOTE YES AS FAR AS THAT GOES IN THE LEGISLATION, AND THAT WILL HELP KEEP MADONNA RURAL. I HAVE SPOKEN AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE CITIZENS ADVISORY, AND WE'VE WRITTEN LETTERS AND I'VE SUBMITTED A PETITION WITH OVER 250 SIGNATURES, ALSO OPPOSING APPLICATION. D-003. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MA'AM. CAROL HICKMAN, FOLLOWED BY JUDITH BALDWIN AND KATHLEEN LEWIS. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. I AM CAROL HICKMAN. 3854 JARRETTSVILLE PIKE IN JARRETTSVILLE. AND I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION OF THE UP ZONING OF D003. AND I'M THANKFUL THAT AS I READ THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, THEY ALSO RECOMMEND NO CHANGE. AND I RECOMMEND NO CHANGE. ALSO FROM THE LITTLE TOWN OF LITTLE INTERSECTION OF MADONNA. LET'S KEEP IT AG AND KEEP MADONNA RURAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. CALL YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. JUDITH BALDWIN. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. JUDITH BALDWIN, 4140 NORRIS VILLE ROAD. AND I AM OPPOSED TO D003. AND I WAS OPPOSED BEFORE AND I'M OPPOSED AGAIN. AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING US. THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. AND PROPERTY NUMBER KATHLEEN LEWIS, 2506 LADY ANNE COURT, CHURCHVILLE, MARYLAND. I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO E-001. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT ZONING ISSUE E-001. THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF RAINSFORD DRIVE AND CHURCHVILLE ROAD. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ADDITIONAL RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL, OFFICE OR BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES ARE NECESSARY. THERE ARE CURRENTLY AT LEAST EIGHT VACANT BUSINESS PROPERTIES IN PROXIMITY TO THE LOT, UP FOR REZONING FROM RR TO B-3. THESE VACANT PROPERTIES ARE AT THE CORNER OF CAMPUS HILLS SHOPPING CENTER. THE FORMER RITE AID PHARMACY, THE FORMER CALIBER SEVEN POLICE

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SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT APPLICATION, ASK THAT THERE'S NO AMENDMENTS. AND I DO REALLY APPRECIATE HOW PLANNING AND ZONING HAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THE MASTER PLAN. AND I THINK JARRETTSVILLE IS KEY TO ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THERE THAT HAS TO REALLY BE TAKEN CARE OF. SO AS FUTURE GOES ON TO, IF YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT FOR JARRETTSVILLE THAT IT'S ACCOMMODATED. SO I JUST WANTED TO REASSESS THAT. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE 11 BEING REZONE, WHICH IS AT THE RECOMMENDATION THE BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER PLEASE. HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KATIE NOVOTNY. I LIVE AT 844 STEPNEY ROAD, ABERDEEN, MARYLAND, AND I AM HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK AGAINST AD018. THIS IS THE ALDINO AIRPORT UP ZONING. GENERAL INDUSTRIAL IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THAT AREA. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION. I GREW UP IN THIS AREA. MOST OF MY LIFE WAS SPENT JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OVER ON BOWMAN ROAD, AND AS A KID SURE WAS EXCITING TO SEE THOSE BIPLANES TRIPLANES WE HAD SOME AIR SHOWS, LIGHT AIR TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T DISRUPTIVE. IT IT WAS PEACEFUL.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A NEAT THING TO HAVE. AND NOW IT'S GROWN INTO, YOU KNOW, ALREADY INTO THIS, THIS MASSIVE AIRPORT WITH, YOU KNOW, A TON OF TRAFFIC. I KEEP A HORSE OVER AT A STABLE IN ALDANA, SORRY, ON OLD LEVEL ROAD. AND WHEN I'M RIDING THERE, IT'S ON A NICE DAY. THERE'S CONSTANT AIR TRAFFIC FLYING OVER. IT FEELS LIKE EVERY FIVE MINUTES THERE'S A PLANE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO REACH MAXIMUM ALTITUDE WITH THEIR ENGINE SCREAMING NO EXHAUST. JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE INSIDE THE BARN AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WHEN THERE'S A PLANE FLYING DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. THAT'S ALREADY A PROBLEM. RIGHT. SO WE DON'T NEED MORE NOISE, MORE TRAFFIC, MORE BUILDING ALL THAT IN THAT AREA THAT'S OTHERWISE AGRICULTURAL. THE CHURCHVILLE LEVEL ALDINO AREA IS JUST ISN'T THE PLACE FOR MORE GROWTH AT THAT TIME. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER LORRAINE JENNINGS. MY ADDRESS IS 1207 WISHING WELL COURT, BEL AIR, MARYLAND 21015.

THIS IS IN REGARDS TO FOR APPLICATIONS B3, B6, B7, AND B8 THAT ARE TO UPGRADE ZONING ALONG ROUTE ONE SOUTH OF ROUTE 152 FROM AGRICULTURAL TO B3. GENERAL BUSINESS. I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL REJECT ALL FOUR APPLICATIONS, SINCE THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC FLOW WOULD FURTHER ENDANGER PUBLIC SAFETY AROUND AN ALREADY UNSAFE INTERSECTION. I GREW UP AT 2900 RECORD ROAD IN FALLSTON, ONE HOUSE AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION OF ROUTE ONE AND RECORD ROAD. SO I BEAR WITNESS WITH NEARLY 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE LAND AND ROADWAY, A MAJOR CONCERN IS THE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC AT AN ALREADY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION OF ROUTE ONE AND RECORD ROAD. RECENT ACCIDENTS INCLUDE A HEAD ON COLLISION IN 2024, WHERE ONE PERSON HAD TO BE TAKEN TO A TRAUMA CENTER. A FOUR VEHICLE CRASH IN 2018 WHERE SEVEN PEOPLE WERE TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL, AND

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MY HOME WAS LOCATED AT THE BASE OF THIS CURVE. DURING MY RESIDENCY. THERE WERE THREE MAJOR CAR ACCIDENTS AT THIS CURVE WHERE PEOPLE FLIPPED THEIR VEHICLES MULTIPLE TIMES. TWO OF THESE ACCIDENTS RESULTED IN CRASH VICTIMS BEING FLOWN TO SHOCK TRAUMA. IN ONE INCIDENT, MY MOTHER WAS A REGISTERED NURSE AND SHE TREATED THE CRASH VICTIM. BEFORE THE AMBULANCE CAME. MY MOTHER MENTIONED THAT THE WOMAN'S SPINAL CORD WAS RESTING ON THE ROAD PAVEMENT.

SOON AFTER, THE VICTIM WAS TAKEN TO SHOCK TRAUMA. MY POINT IS THAT THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC FROM BUSINESS ZONING WILL WORSEN MAJOR SAFETY HAZARDS IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY AT THE RECORD ROAD AND ROUTE ONE INTERSECTION, BUT ALSO ALONG RECORD ROAD ITSELF. IN LIGHT OF THESE ISSUES, I ASK THAT ALL FOUR APPLICATIONS TO REZONE THE AREA ALONG ROUTE ONE SOUTH OF ROUTE 152 FROM AGRICULTURAL TO BUSINESS BE REJECTED. THE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC SAFETY ARE JUST TOO RISKY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MA'AM, BEN RIGDON, FOLLOWED BY BRUCE ROSE AND DOCTOR ALICE. OH. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE.

WELL, BEN RIGDON AND THE MY HOME ADDRESS IS 2001 GLENVILLE ROAD. THE PROPERTIES THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARE 3740 NORTHVILLE ROAD. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE APPLICANT NUMBER, SIR? D004 AND D005. THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE TOGETHER. IT'S THE CORNER OF SCHUSTER ROAD AND NORTHVILLE ROAD. THANK YOU. I'M THE LANDOWNER AND I JUST WANTED TO TRY TO UPGRADE THE ZONING FROM VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL TO VILLAGE BUSINESS. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN SPEAKING AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE WHAT THAT ZONING ALLOWS. PRIMARILY, I GUESS I'M ALLOWED TO HAVE AN OFFICE, WHETHER IT BE AN ACCOUNTANT, AN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A MAJOR CHANGE TO THAT AREA. AND I THINK IT'S INFORMATIVE TO WHAT'S THERE. I MEAN, WE HAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ON THAT STRIP THAT GOES FROM KEENE DODGE AT THE INTERSECTION OF JARRETTSVILLE AND THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD TO JARRETTSVILLE FEDERAL, THE DUNKIN DONUTS. HARFORD COUNTY PUT UP A LIBRARY THERE. HARFORD COUNTY HAS A SHERIFF'S PRECINCT THERE, AND IT'S ONLY ABOUT FOUR HOUSES. SO I THINK IT'S INFORMATIVE TO WHAT'S THERE.

THERE'S A DENTIST ON THE OTHER CORNER. SMITH HARDWARE IS ACROSS THE ROAD. I KNOW TRAFFIC IS A PROBLEM IN JARRETTSVILLE. I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I'M SURE THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO OPPOSE IT. BUT THIS IS NOT I'M NOT GOING TO PUT SOME KIND OF A NURSERY OR SOME KIND OF A SHOPPING CENTER OR WHATEVER. I'M JUST IT'S JUST TO ZONING TO MAKE THAT PARCEL TO BE USED, WHETHER IT BE FOR AN OFFICE OR EVEN AT THIS POINT, IT'S PROBABLY WILL STILL BE USED AS RESIDENTIAL.

FROM WHAT I'VE, WHAT I UNDERSTAND, FROM WHAT I'VE GOT FROM THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT I'D JUST LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION. I'VE LIVED IN HARFORD COUNTY ALL MY LIFE. I KNOW JARED'S, I KNOW JARRETTSVILLE, I KNOW IT VERY WELL, AND I KNOW IT CAN BE A PROBLEM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S THAT MUCH IMPACT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING, WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED BETWEEN VILLAGE BUSINESS AND VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL, IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT. AND THAT MUST HAVE BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH, I GUESS, WHEN THEY PUT IN THE HARFORD COUNTY LIBRARY THAT'S IN JARRETTSVILLE, AND ALSO WHEN THEY PUT IN THE SHERIFF'S PRECINCT, WHICH IS IN JARRETTSVILLE AND THE DUNKIN DONUTS, I DON'T THINK I MEAN, MOST, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AN OFFICE LIKE I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT BE AN ATTORNEY, WHETHER IT BE AN ENGINEER OR WHATEVER, THAT THERE'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE THAT MUCH MORE TRAFFIC. AND I WAS TOLD A LONG TIME AGO AND I REALLY I TRULY BELIEVE THIS DON'T BE THE LAST ONE IN AND SHUT THE GATE. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM IN THE COUNTY. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE FOR TOO MANY YEARS, PROBABLY. BUT ANYHOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND I'D JUST LIKE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND REALLY THINK IT THROUGH. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CALL YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, BRUCE ROSE, FOLLOWED BY DOCTOR ALICE. OH. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. BRUCE ROSE. RESIDE AT 207 LUCAS HILL DRIVE, CHURCHVILLE. I'M HERE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OF ZONING. REQUEST FOR D-018, I'M GOING TO REFER TO THE 2025 COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ASSESSMENT REPORT, SECTION FIVE. THIS IS JUST ONE CONFLICTING AREA IN THE

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MY NAME IS DOCTOR ALICE. OH, I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF ISSUE NUMBER A-003. I'M A DENTIST CURRENTLY PRACTICING IN JOPPA, MARYLAND. OUR OFFICE, JOPPA FAMILY DENTISTRY, HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN SERVING THE JAVA COMMUNITY SINCE 1963. THIS REQUEST FOR REZONING FROM R3 TO B1 BRINGS THE 62 YEAR OLD USE TO CONFORMING STATUS. A DENTAL OFFICE SUCH AS OURS IS PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED IN THE B1 ZONING DISTRICT. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPERTIES WITH B2 COMMERCIAL ZONING TO THE REAR OF OUR DENTAL PRACTICE. WE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR B2 ZONING IN LIGHT OF OUR B2 NEIGHBORS, BUT WE ARE APPRECIATIVE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDATION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO B1. MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE CURRENT PATIENTS AT THE OFFICE. WE HAVE MANY PATIENTS WHO HAVE BEEN COMING TO OUR DENTAL CLINIC THEIR ENTIRE LIVES SINCE THEY WERE YOUNG CHILDREN AND CONTINUED TO COME AS ADULTS. WE PLAN TO CONTINUE PROVIDING EXCELLENT DENTAL CARE IN OUR COMMUNITY, CHANGING THE ZONING FROM R3 TO B1 WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE OUR DENTAL PRACTICE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING OUR B1 ZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. ROSE, ARE YOU STILL LOOKING FOR YOUR SEAT? HELP YOURSELF. SORRY ABOUT THAT. MARK KAPLAN, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS FRY AND STEPHEN HARRIS. CALL HIM AGAIN. MARK KAPLAN, FOLLOWED BY THOMAS FRY AND STEPHEN HARRIS. HOW COME SOMEBODY. ON THE LAST ONE. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. YES, SIR. MY NAME IS THOMAS FRY. 3421 MCCUBBINS ROAD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU REGARDING THE ZONING CHANGE. D018. MY FAMILY AND I LIVE ON A FARM OF MY IN-LAWS FARM HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 1960. THE SLEEPY, PEACEFUL AREA OF LOVELL HAS TOTALLY BEEN DISRUPTED BY THE AIRPORT CHANGES, AND THEY CONTINUOUSLY WANT MORE. THE WEEKEND AIRPORT WITH LOCAL CITIZENS USE AND STORAGE HAS NOW BECOME A 24 OVER SEVEN OPERATION, WITH MOST AIRPLANES OWNED BY OUT OF STATE MILITARY

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GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE PROPERTY YOU'RE SPEAKING TO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JAMES THOMAS. I'M AT 2315 PLEASANTVILLE ROAD, FALLSTON, MARYLAND. I'M SPEAKING TOWARDS B-005. SINCE 1933, MY FAMILY HAS OPERATED FRANK THOMAS SAWMILL AND FARMED THE LAND AT 2019 FALLSTON ROAD. OVER THE PAST CENTURY, MY FAMILY HAS HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO PROVIDE LUMBER AS WELL AS VARIOUS AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS TO LOCAL FARMS, MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY BUSINESSES AND GOVERNMENT MUNICIPALITIES. OVER THE YEARS, THE BUSINESS HAS GROWN AND THE GOAL OF THE REZONING IS TO ENCOMPASS THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF OUR LUMBER PRODUCTION, LUMBER STORAGE, HAY STORAGE BUILDINGS INTO BE ONE ZONING. WE ARE PROUD TO BE ONE OF ONLY TWO REMAINING SAWMILLS LEFT IN HARFORD COUNTY. WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE OR THE USE OF THE PROPERTY. I AM THE FOURTH GENERATION TO BE INVOLVED IN THE LUMBER MILL AND FARMING OPERATIONS. I CURRENTLY FARM THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY TO PRODUCE HAY FOR LOCAL HORSE FARMS. OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE THE FAMILY LEGACY OF THE MILL AND THE FARMING. THE LAND, LIKE THE PREVIOUS GENERATIONS HAVE DONE, AND IN HOPES TO PASS IT ON TO THE NEXT GENERATION. THE REZONING APPROVAL ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS WHILE ALLOWING US TO POSSIBLY EXPAND AND DIVERSIFY WITHIN OUR BUSINESS TO HELP US STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE EVER CHANGING MARKETS. IT'S MY GOAL TO KEEP US THE SAME AS WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, BUT TO HAVE THE OPTION IF WE NEED TO, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE PROPERTY IN THE FAMILY TO DIVERSIFY, I THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER KELSEY WEISNER, 2000 HIGHLAND AVENUE IN BEL AIR. AND THIS IS FOR E009. I OPPOSE THIS REZONING REQUEST AND SUPPORT THE LEGISLATION AS WRITTEN FOR NO CHANGE. I'VE GIVEN MY FAIR SHARE OF COMMENTS SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE ZONING REVIEW CYCLE. SO TODAY I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND SHARE THE VOICES OF 503 OTHER CITIZENS, THESE CITIZENS WHO HAVE HAD FAITH IN THEIR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION I CREATED IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING REQUEST, AND HAVE PROVIDED COMMENTS THAT ECHO THE FINDINGS CITED IN E009 PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEW.

THESE INCLUDE THE MAJOR UNFORESEEN INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE SUCH A DEVELOPMENT, RAISING SAFETY AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS, STRAINING RESOURCES AND CREATING COSTLY BURDENS ON THE COUNTY. HISTORICAL PRESERVATION IS AT

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BUT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST HAS TAKEN A TOLL ON OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE IN OUR GREENHOUSES DOING WORK TALK, TALKING WITH CUSTOMERS, AND HAVING TO PAUSE OUR CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE AIRPLANES AND HELICOPTERS ARE TAKING OFF. THERE ARE OVER A THIRD OF A MILE AWAY FROM US. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH IS SWAN CREEK STARTS ON MY FAMILY'S FARM AT 218 HOPEWELL ROAD. MY KIDS LIKE TO PLAY IN THE WOODS IN THE CREEK. LAST YEAR IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD A WATER SAMPLE TAKEN OFF THE WEST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY UP AGAINST THE AIRPORT. THERE WAS TRACES OF LEAD IN THAT RUNOFF WATER. I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE STRONGLY CONSIDER NOT APPROVING THIS APPLICATION FOR THE SAFETY OF MY CHILDREN. ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SCHOOL THAT IS WITHIN TWO AND A HALF MILES OF THE REC CENTER, AND THE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF HARFORD COUNTY. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. YES, THANKS. THIS IS DAVE FAISAL, 2400 CABERNET COURT FALLSTON. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF CASE NUMBER E002. WE ARE REQUESTING THE CHANGE AT THIS SITE FROM B1 TO B3 ZONING. THIS IS A CORNER SITE AT A LIGHT CONTROLLED INTERSECTION IMMEDIATELY OFF OF INTERSTATE I-95, WHICH IS VERY RARE. PROPERTY, SITS ACROSS ROUTE 22 FROM THE HEAT CENTER DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO OUR SITE. ON THE SAME SIDE OF ROUTE 22 IS A BRAND NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING A ROW OF FARMS, TROPICAL SMOOTHIE CAFE, MINI GOLF COURSE, AND A MULTIPLE STRIP CENTERS. BEHIND BOTH OF THESE SITES IS THE RIPKEN STADIUM, ALONG WITH THOUSANDS OF NEWLY CONSTRUCTED RESIDENTIAL HOMES, WITH MORE BEING BUILT EVERY DAY. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ABILITY THAT COMES WITH B3 ZONING TO DEVELOP A SIMILAR SITE TO OUR NEIGHBOR, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE RETAIL SHOPS, RESTAURANTS AND SERVICES TO HELP SERVE ALL OF THESE NEW HOMEOWNERS, ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. EXIT RAMPS ALONG I-95 ARE TYPICALLY SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY, ALLOWING FOR HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL USAGE. IN OUR RESEARCH, WE HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIND ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL SITES WITH SIMILAR PROXIMITY TO AN OFF RAMP OF I-95. WITH THE TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS THAT OUR SITE HAS AT THE B1 ZONING LEVEL, NEARLY ALL SITES OF SIMILAR PLACEMENT HAVE A COMPARABLE ZONING TO WHAT B3 WOULD PERMIT IN HARFORD COUNTY. WE ARE ASKING TO BE GIVEN THAT SAME CONSIDERATION AND ABILITY AT OUR SITE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER PLEASE. YES. WOODY HOWARD, 3520 OLD LEVEL ROAD. I'M SPEAKING ■IN OPPOSITIN OF D018 RIGHT NOW. NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE'RE EVEN HERE DISCUSSING THIS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR RECOMMENDED 27 ACRES TO BE UP ZONED WHEN THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD UNANIMOUSLY SAID NO, IT MAKES NO SENSE. THE AIRPORT IS SUBJECT TO SPECIAL EXCEPTION 35 CASE 3514.

THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS CASE, NOT EVEN BY LITTLE, BUT BY A LOT. THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH IT. THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES, WHICH MOST OF US WILL DISCUSS HERE TODAY OR THIS EVENING, WHICH THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED FOR. THEY OPERATE BUSINESSES OUT OF THIS

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IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT THAT WAS RELEASED, THEY HAVE LISTED AS A LEAKING UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK. THERE'S NO ANSWER TO THIS. THERE'S NO ANSWER TO, WELL, WILL WE FIX THIS BEFORE WE DO WHATEVER ELSE WE WANT TO USE, THE 66 OR THE 27 ACRES THAT THEY HAVE ASKED TO HAVE UP ZONED. YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE ITEMS, AND YET THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR WANTS TO AWARD THEM. IT'S LIKE TAKING A KID THAT'S BEEN BAD AND GIVING THEM A COOKIE. IT'S RIDICULOUS. THAT SAID, THEY'RE STILL SUBJECT TO 58, 14, 58, 14 DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE RIGHTS TO DO ANYTHING WITH ANY OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'VE ASKED TO HAVE UP ZONED. THEY SHOULD MAKE THE APPLICATION AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY DID MAKE THE APPLICATION FOR 59.99 AND THEN RESCINDED. THEY SHOULD MAKE ANOTHER APPLICATION AGAIN FOR ANOTHER SPECIAL EXCEPTION HEARING. IF GRANTED, THEN APPLY FOR REZONING WITHOUT PERMISSION. YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. IF UP ZONING IS APPROVED WITHOUT A NEW SPECIAL EXCEPTION, THEY WILL JUST CONTINUE TO BREAK THE RULES AND DO WHAT THEY WANT.

THEY ARE NOW AND THEY WILL JUST CONTINUE THAT. AT SOME POINT THEY NEED TO BE STOPPED, AND THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND TO MADE TO FOLLOW THE RULES LIKE THE REST OF US IN THE COUNTY. I ASK THAT YOU DENY THE UP ZONING REQUEST, MAKE THEM REAPPLY FOR A NEW SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS HEARING, AND IF THEY DO GET THAT APPROVED, THEN THEN THEY CAN ALLOW AND REQUEST FOR REZONING OF THAT PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. KELLY HOWER, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT TIBBS, FOLLOWED BY PAUL FALACCI. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KELLY HICKS HOWER AND MY ADDRESS IS. WELL, I REPRESENT MY FAMILY AT 3514 AND 3520 OLD LEVEL ROAD. WE'RE IN OPPOSITION OF D018. MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNTY COUNCIL, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN OWNED BY MY FAMILY FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS. WE STRONGLY, STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS EXPANSION. WE DO NOT WANT THIS UP ZONING OF THIS LAND. YOUR PAB HAS RECOMMENDED NO CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF THIS. THIS PROPERTY AND PLANNING AND ZONING HAS REQUESTED 27 ACRES MOVED FROM AG TO GI. THIS IS IN THE AREA OF THE AIRPORT THAT HAS BEEN UNDERGOING MAJOR CONSTANT RENOVATIONS AT THE DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. THE NEVER ENDING FLOW OF DUMP TRUCKS WITH SLAMMING TAILGATES AND BACKUP ALARMS, AS WELL AS EXCAVATORS OPERATING AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, IS GREATLY DISRUPTING THIS QUIET AND QUAINT COMMUNITY. THIS RECOMMENDATION ALLOWS WORK ALREADY TO BE COMPLETED THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN TO AN ALREADY NON-COMPLIANT OPERATION. WE ARE CURRENTLY SUBJECTED TO THE NEVER ENDING TOUCH AND GOES FROM THE FLIGHT SCHOOL AND WE. WE ALSO NOW HAVE BEEN GIFTED WITH BLACK HAWK HELICOPTERS FROM ABERDEEN PROVING GROUND, WHO HAS TWO AIRFIELDS, BUT THEY ARE USING THIS AIRPORT TO ALSO DO TOUCH AND GO'S. IF ANYONE HAS BEEN AROUND APD AND HAVE HEARD THESE HELICOPTERS TAKING OFF, THE NOISE IS DEAFENING AND IN JUST THREE DAYS, SKYDIVING AND HARFORD COUNTY WILL BEGIN. THIS IS AN OPERATION THAT RUNS WEEKENDS AND THEN IT WILL BE DAILY UP UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 2ND. THESE PLANES RUN NONSTOP FROM THE HOURS OF 9 TO 4. THE NOISE AGAIN IS DEAFENING. IF YOU'RE IN THE FLIGHT PATH OF THESE TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS, YOU CAN NO LONGER ENJOY YOUR OWN PROPERTY. AS A SIDE NOTE, ACCORDING TO INFORMATION OBTAINED THIS MORNING FROM FLIGHTAWARE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC SITE THAT ANYONE CAN GO TO, THE NUMBER OF DEPARTURES AND ARRIVALS FROM THIS AIRPORT IS UP 73% FROM 2023. LAST COUNT WAS OVER 32,000 FLIGHTS, AND THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FLIGHTS WHO HAVE THEIR INDICATORS TURNED OFF. AND THAT IS DONE INTENTIONALLY TURNING THEM OFF. IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT DISTRICT A ASSESSMENT. THERE ARE A FEW POINTS OF CONCERN. AS MY HUSBAND SAID, LUST AND UST, FOR THOSE NOT AWARE, ARE LEAKING UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS AND UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS.

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CHURCHVILLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THESE NONSTOP FLIGHTS FLYING DIRECTLY OVER THE SCHOOLS AND THE PLAYGROUND. MA'AM, PLEASE BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO A CLOSE. OKAY? TRAFFIC AS WE KNOW, IS NOT SUPPORTED. WE JUST ASK THAT YOU LISTEN TO US. IT'S IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA. THANK YOU MA'AM, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER PLEASE. BOB TIBBS, 3545 OLD LEVEL ROAD. HOW MANY? GRACE? I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO D018. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY HAS CONTESTED THE EXPANSION OF THE ALDAN AIRPORT FOR OVER TEN YEARS. I'VE TALKED TO MOST OF YOU ABOUT THE EXPANSION, INCLUDING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, AS LATE AS LAST FALL AFTER A COMMUNITY INPUT MEETING LAST FALL, THE AIRPORT WITHDREW THEIR RECOMMENDATION. THEIR APPLICATION TO EXPAND THE AIRPORT. AFTER I TALKED TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, HE TOLD ME THAT THERE WOULD BE NO UPZONING AT THE AIRPORT. I SPOKE WITH SOME OF YOU ABOUT THE ABSURDITY AT FROM AG TO GI, AND YOU SAID IT WOULD COME FROM THE COUNTY. IT WOULD NOT COME FROM THE COUNCIL, BUT FROM ACROSS THE STREET. WELL, THAT HAS HAPPENED. THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDED NO CHANGE TO THE AG ZONING. HOWEVER, PLANNING AND ZONING HAS MADE THE CHANGE FOR 27 ACRES. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND IS UP TO YOU AS THE COUNCIL TO VOTE THIS DOWN. THERE WAS A MEETING, I'M NOT SURE WHEN IT WAS HELD THAT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF EXTRA STOREFRONTS AND BROWNFIELDS IN THE ROUTE 40 CORRIDOR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I WAS TOLD THAT THIS IS ONE REASON THAT THE AG ZONING WOULD BE CHANGED, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. WE DO NOT NEED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS BUSINESSES ARE CONCERNED, IN A AREA WHERE THERE IS NO PUBLIC SEWAGE, NO PUBLIC WATER, PERCOLATION IS NOT VERY GOOD AS FAR AS THAT IS CONCERNED. AND I WOULD ASK MR. GRIMM TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE CANCEL THIS 27 ACRES FROM AG TO GI. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU, MR. TIBBS. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER PAUL FALACCI, 320 MARINA AVENUE, PERRYMAN.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PAUL FALACCI. AGAIN. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON BILL 25 002, HARFORD COUNTY'S 2025 COMPREHENSIVE ZONING LEGISLATION. SPECIFICALLY, I'M TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UP ZONING OF PARTIAL F002 IN DISTRICT F FROM AGRICULTURAL AND BUSINESS TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. THIS APPLICATION WOULD CONVERT OVER 50 ACRES OF PRIMARILY RURAL LAND TO A MORE INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL USE IN THE AREA THAT LACKS APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS SETS A CONCERNING PRECEDENT, ESPECIALLY WHERE NEARBY AREAS LIKE PERRYMAN HAVE LONG CARRIED A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN HARFORD COUNTY. I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND ADJACENT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARCELS IN PERRYMAN TO AGRICULTURAL. THIS CHANGE WOULD REFLECT ACTUAL LAND USE, REDUCE INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN AND PROMOTE MORE CONSISTENT BALANCE THROUGHOUT DISTRICT F. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF £0.03 PROTECT PERRYMAN PENINSULA. MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO PERRYMAN SIX YEARS FROM BEL AIR AFTER LIVING THERE FOR 15 YEARS. BECAUSE WE LOVED THE WATER. WE LOVE THE BUSH RIVER. WE'RE OUT IN OUR BOAT EVERY CHANCE WE GET WHEN IT'S WARM ENOUGH. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT NOT ONLY AS A RESIDENT, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES DEEPLY IN STEWARDSHIP OF LAND, OF COMMUNITY, AND OF PUBLIC TRUST.

THAT IS A VALUE I LEARNED AT THE NAVAL ACADEMY IN THE MILITARY, AND IT'S ONE CARRIED THROUGH EVERY PART OF MY LIFE. ZONING IS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL TOOLS A GOVERNMENT HAS, BUT IT MUST BE USED WISELY AND CONSISTENTLY. ZONING IS NOT A PERSONAL ASSET. IT'S A PUBLIC POLICY, AND ITS PURPOSE IS TO SERVE THE GREATER GOOD. IN PERRYMAN, THE CURRENT INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS OUT OF STEP WITH THE LAND, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE PEOPLE. MEANWHILE, PROPERTY OWNERS ACROSS THE COUNTY ARE SEEKING CHANGES, SOME UP, SOME DOWN. WE RESPECT THAT, BUT WE ASK THAT THE SAME FAIRNESS BE EXTENDED TO THE RESIDENTS OF PERRYMAN WHO ARE ASKING FOR A ZONING CORRECTION THAT REFLECTS THE LAND'S HISTORICAL AND CURRENT USE AND A MAJOR OBSTACLE TO ROADS MINISTER THAT WAS NEVER COMPLETED AND PERRYMAN WEST THAT WILL NEVER BE

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THAT'S WHAT STEWARDSHIP LOOKS LIKE. I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND SURROUNDING PARCELS TO AGRICULTURAL. LET'S HONOR OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO EACH OTHER AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. THANK YOU. CHERYL COLE, FOLLOWED BY GREG PISANO, FOLLOWED BY HOLLY MCCOMAS. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. AND PROPERTY NUMBER. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHERYL COLE. I LIVE AT 1918 PARK BEACH DRIVE IN ABERDEEN, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON BILL 25 002, THE HARFORD COUNTY 2025 COMPREHENSIVE ZONING LEGISLATION. SPECIFICALLY, I'M TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION TO PROPOSED UPZONING OF PARCEL F002 AND DISTRICT F FROM AG AND B1 TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. THIS APPLICATION WOULD CONVERT OVER 50 ACRES OF PRIMARILY RURAL LAND TO A MORE INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL USE IN AN AREA THAT ALREADY LACKS APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS SETS A CONCERNING PRECEDENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN NEARBY AREAS LIKE PERRYMAN HAVE LONG CARRIED A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. I AM REQUESTING THE COUNTY COUNCIL AMEND THE BILL TO HOPEFULLY REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND ADJACENT LAND PARCELS IN PERRYMAN TO AGRICULTURE. THIS CHANGE WOULD REFLECT THE ACTUAL LAND USE, REDUCE INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN AND PROMOTE MORE CONSISTENT, BALANCED PLANNING THROUGHOUT DISTRICT F. I'M A PERMANENT PROPERTY OWNER, AND I PREVIOUSLY HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING IN THE MARYLAND LEGISLATURE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO WEIGH PUBLIC INPUT, PLANNING DOCUMENTS, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS OF EVERY VOTE. CONCERNS STILL EXIST TODAY THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPAIRMENT CANNOT SUPPORT ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THE MITCHELL FARM ZONING NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED TO REFLECT THAT REALITY. I'M A CONSERVATIVE. I BELIEVE IN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, GOOD GOVERNANCE AND SMART LONG TERM PLANNING.

THAT MEANS ACKNOWLEDGING WHEN SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING AND HAVING THE COURAGE TO FIX IT.

THE ROADS IN PERRYMAN WERE NOT BUILT FOR THE VOLUME OF TRUCK TRAFFIC THE ROADS LACK.

SHOULDERS ARE NOT EVEN SAFE FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. LAST NIGHT, TWO PEOPLE WALKING ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN A DOWNPOUR WITH NO SHOULDER. THAT'S THE CONCERNS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. EMERGENCY ACCESS IS VERY COMPROMISED BACK THERE. IT'S DIFFICULT FOR TWO TRUCKS TO PASS ON A ROAD WITH NO SHOULDERS. ZONING SHOULD FOLLOW INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. PRETENDING OTHERWISE ISN'T ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT'S MUNICIPAL NEGLIGENCE. I URGE THIS COUNCIL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THE BILL, REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM, AND ALSO DEVOTE AN OPPOSITION ON F0 ZERO TWO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. AND PROPERTY NUMBER GREG PISANO, 1826 PARK BEACH DRIVE, ABERDEEN. PERRYMAN. PROPERTY IS S002 OPPOSING MOVING FROM AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS TO COMMERCIAL. THE PROPOSAL TO CONVERT 50 ACRES OF RURAL LAND INTO HIGH IMPACT INDUSTRIAL USE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS AREA LACKS THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT SUCH A CHANGE. BUT BEYOND ROADS AND ZONING MAPS, THIS IS ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE MORE CRITICAL OUR HEALTH. I LIVE IN PERRYMAN WITH MY WIFE, WHO SERVES AS THIS COUNTY AS A FUNERAL DIRECTOR. I WORK IN MEDICAL SALES AND HAVE DEDICATED MY CAREER TO HEALTHCARE. I VOLUNTEER WITH A LOCAL ORGANIZATION, EXTREME FAMILY OUTREACH, PARTICIPATE IN TRASH PICKUP AND SUPPORT OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY AND THE WELL-BEING OF ITS PEOPLE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. THE SCIENCE IS UNDENIABLE.

DIESEL TRUCK TRAFFIC RELEASES PARTICULATE MATTER, TINY INVISIBLE PARTICLES THAT ENTER OUR LUNGS AND BLOODSTREAM, EVEN OUR BRAINS. THE POLLUTANTS ARE DIRECTLY LINKED TO ASTHMA, HEART DISEASE, AND COGNITIVE DECLINE. THEY DO US HARM. THEY KILL US. PERRYMAN IS ALREADY OVERBURDENED. THE TRUCK TRAFFIC WE ENDURE DAILY ISN'T THEORETICAL. IT'S RELENTLESS.

IT'S CHOKING OUR AIR, DEGRADING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND PUTTING OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS, CHILDREN, SENIORS AND THOSE WITH RESPIRATORY CONDITIONS AT SERIOUS RISK. AND YET WE'RE BEING ASKED TO ABSORB MORE MORE TRUCKS, MORE POLLUTION, MORE INDUSTRIAL SPRAWL. WHILE OUR ROADS DETERIORATE, WATER SUPPLY REMAINS UNCERTAIN WITH OUR INCREASING DEPENDANCE ON FOREIGN COUNTRIES FOR FOOD. WHY WOULD HARFORD COUNTY WANT TO? WHY WOULDN'T HARFORD COUNTY WANT TO PROTECT OUR FARMLANDS? WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, OUR COMMUNITY CAN'T HANDLE ANY MORE. NOT PHYSICALLY, ENVIRONMENTALLY OR MORALLY. THAT'S WHY I'M URGING YOU TO

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER PLEASE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS HOLLY MCCOMAS, 1826 PARK BEACH DRIVE, PERRYMAN, MARYLAND. I AM HERE TONIGHT TO VOICE MY STRONG OPPOSITION. ON THE PROPOSED UPZONING OF PARCEL F002 DISTRICT F FROM AGRICULTURAL AND BUSINESS TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, AS OUTLINED IN BILL 25 002, HARFORD COUNTY'S 2025 COMPREHENSIVE ZONING LEGISLATION. THIS PROPOSAL WOULD CONVERT MORE THAN 50 ACRES OF PREDOMINANTLY RURAL LAND INTO INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL ZONE. DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE AREA LACKS APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT CURRENT TRAFFIC. ROADS ARE NARROW, ALREADY OVERBURDENED EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES ARE SUFFERING. SCHOOL BUSSES MUST CAREFULLY NAVIGATE TIGHT CORRIDORS AND RESIDENTS, MANY OF THEM ELDERLY, FACE INCREASED DANGERS ON A DAILY BASIS. TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, NEARBY COMMUNITIES LIKE PERRYMAN HAVE LONG SHOULDERED MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF INDUSTRIAL GROWTH.

THIS PROPOSED ZONING WOULD ONLY DEEPEN THAT IMBALANCE. IN LIGHT OF THIS, I AM ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL AMEND BILL 25 002 TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND ADJACENT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARCELS IN PERRYMAN TO AGRICULTURE. THIS ADJUSTMENT WOULD BETTER REFLECT THE ACTUAL LAND USE RELIEF, MOUNTING INFRASTRUCTURE STRESS AND BRING A SENSE OF EQUITY AND LONG TERM VISION TO PLANNING. IN DISTRICT F, I SPEAK TO YOU TODAY NOT ONLY AS A PERRYMAN PROPERTY OWNER, BUT ALSO AS A FUNERAL DIRECTOR WHO HAS SERVED HARFORD COUNTY FAMILIES FOR GENERATIONS. MY FAMILY'S ROOTS RUN DEEP. SO DEEP, IN FACT, THAT SOME OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS WERE SIGNERS OF THE BUSH DECLARATION. THEIR LEGACY WAS A PROMISE TO PROTECT THE LAND AND WATER OF THIS COMMUNITY, A PROMISE I STILL BELIEVE IN TODAY. THAT'S LEGACY. THAT LEGACY ISN'T JUST HISTORY.

IT IS RESPONSIBILITY. AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS WITH GRIEVING FAMILIES, I THINK EVERY DAY ABOUT DIGNITY, PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS. AND WHAT I SEE IN THIS ZONING PROPOSAL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE PLANNING. IT IS SHORTSIGHTED AND UNSUSTAINABLE.

LET ME BE CLEAR. I'M NOT AGAINST GROWTH. I'M AGAINST UNCHECKED INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT IGNORES BOTH THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR SHARED HISTORY. THIS IS A MOMENT TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, OUR ROADS, OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND OUR LEGACY. I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE UP ZONING PARCEL OF PARCEL F002 AND AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND SURROUNDING PARCELS TO AGRICULTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMITMENT TO HARFORD COUNTY. THANK YOU MA'AM. GLORIA MOON, FOLLOWED BY MELVIN HAGER AND ELLEN SHANLEY. GOOD EVENING MADAM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. SURE. GLORIA MOON, 2519 JERUSALEM ROAD IN JOPPA. A SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN. THOSE FOUR PROPERTIES ARE THE AUSTIN LLC AND SURROUNDING. THEY'RE ASKING FOR GI FROM SCI. THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY SCI. THEY RUN A VERY NICE BUSINESS GRINDING TIRES, AND I THINK THE COUNTY IS ONE OF THEIR CLIENTS. AND WITH THEIR ZONING THAT THEY HAVE NOW, THEY'RE QUITE ABLE TO EXPAND. SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR THEM. THE PROBLEMS ON ROUTE SEVEN, THERE WERE 17 PROPERTIES ON ROUTE SEVEN THAT PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND PLANNING AND ZONING DENIED. PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD DENIED THESE FOUR FOR AUSTIN LLC AND ENVIRONS AND PLANNING AND ZONING SAID YES, GO AHEAD WITH IT. THEY HAVE CONSTRAINTS. THEY HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE STEEP SLOPES. THEY HAVE DNR PROPERTIES. I THINK TWO OF THEM ARE IN THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN FOR AQUATICS AND FORESTRY. IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD. THEY'RE BACKED BY THE CSX. IT'S STEEP

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OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO VERIFY THAT NOW WITH THE DEPUTIES. OKAY? I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. CALL YOUR NEXT SPEAKER. OH. MELVIN HAGER. FOLLOWED BY ELLEN SHANLEY. GOOD EVENING, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. PLUS THE PROPERTY NUMBER 3633 OLD LEVEL ROAD. AND I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE ON D018. IF THIS ZONING IS APPROVED, AIR TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE CONSIDERABLY. THIS IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN. KEEP IN MIND THE RECENT ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED AT DC AIRPORT BETWEEN A JET AND A HELICOPTER, AND THEY HAD AIR CONTROL. THIS AIRPORT HAS NO AIR CONTROL. ALSO, SOMEHOW THEY WERE ALLOWED TO OPEN A NORTH SOUTH RUNWAY THAT'S OVER 4000FT WITH NO CONCERN OR CONSIDERATION FOR THE RESIDENTS LIVING AT THE ENDS OF THE NEW, IMPROVED RUNWAY. THAT WAS A GRASS FIELD. PREVIOUS RUNWAY WAS EAST WEST. THERE IS NO APPROVED TAKEOFF OR LANDING AIRSPACE BY THE AVIATION ADMINISTRATION. THEY CONTINUE TO FLY ABOUT 500FT ABOVE OUR HOMES. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW HOW BUSY OR THE TYPES OF AIRCRAFT THAT FLY IN AND OUT OF THIS AREA, OR THIS AIRPORT TYPES OF AIRCRAFT USING THIS ONE RUNWAY INCLUDES SMALL PRIVATE PLANES, MULTIPLE PASSENGER TYPE PLANES, CROP SEEDERS, DOUBLE WINGED ACROBATIC PLANES AND EXPERIENCED PILOTS FROM THE TRAINING SCHOOL. DRONES, HELICOPTERS AND JETS.

THERE ARE PRIVATE JETS RUNNING IN AND OUT OF THERE NOW, AND A TURBOPROP PLANE THAT WE HEARD EARLIER WILL BE STARTING UP HERE SOON. THAT DOES ABOUT SIX PARACHUTE JUMPS EVERY 20 MINUTES. THESE PILOTS CONTINUE TO JUMP IN FRONT OF ONE ANOTHER, TAKING AND TRYING TO GET THEIR PLACE INTO LANDING. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THERE'S ANOTHER ACCIDENT THAT RESULTS IN A DEATH. THAT WAS THERE LAST YEAR WHEN THEY HAD AN ACCIDENT. THAT PLANE THAT TOOK OFF WENT LEFT, CRASHED IN A FIELD. HAD HE GONE RIGHT, COULD HAVE BEEN MY HOUSE. ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORS HERE. AND I WOULDN'T BE HERE SPEAKING. PLEASE BE CONSIDERATE OF MY FAMILY, NEIGHBORS AND LIVES. NOW, BEFORE YOUR HEARING ABOUT OUR DEATHS ON THE NEWS, YOU DON'T LIVE THERE. I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF AIR TRAFFIC, A LOT OF NOISE. AND WHEN WE COMPLAIN TO THE AIRPORT, IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS. THEY DON'T CARE. HE DOESN'T CARE HOW THEY OPERATE. HE DOESN'T CARE HOW THE PARACHUTE PLANE OPERATOR WORKS. AND THEY ALL TRY TO HIT THAT RUNWAY, PROBABLY IN LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE. IF YOU GOT THAT JET COMING IN, HE'S COMING IN FROM TWO MILES OR BETTER OUT STRAIGHT. SO IN THAT TIME, THERE ARE OTHER PLANES THAT ARE CUTTING IN FRONT OF HIM. IT'S JUST A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN, AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE IF WE ALLOW THEM TO BRING MORE PLANES IN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ELLEN CHANEL. I LIVE AT 1704 PARK BEACH DRIVE IN PERRYMAN. I'M TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UP ZONING OF PARCEL F-002 IN DISTRICT F, FROM AGRICULTURAL AND BUSINESS TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. THIS

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PLEASE TURN THAT OFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SCOTT. OKAY. HELLO. MY NAME IS SARAH GONZALEZ. I LIVE AT 1636 PERRYMAN ROAD IN ABERDEEN, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UPZONING OF PARCEL F-002 FROM AGRICULTURE AND BUSINESS TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. I AM ALSO REQUESTING THAT COUNCIL AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND THE ADJACENT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARCELS IN PERRYMAN TO AGRICULTURE. I'M A GEOSPATIAL ANALYST, ENGINEER AND RESIDENT OF PERRYMAN, AND MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE MITCHELL FARM, AND I WAS PROUD TO BE A NAMED PLAINTIFF IN THE £0.03 NUISANCE LAWSUIT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, YOU DON'T SIT BACK, YOU ACT. WE PURCHASED OUR HOME IN PERRYMAN A FEW YEARS AGO AT A VERY HIGH. AT A VERY HIGH INVESTMENT, BECAUSE WE BELIEVED IN THE PROMISE OF THIS PLACE. WE BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY. WE BELIEVE IN THE QUIET, THE ACCESS TO NATURE AND THE BALANCE OF RURAL AND PROFESSIONAL PROXIMITY. I BELIEVED I WAS INVESTING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT AN INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR. AND NOW THAT INVESTMENT, ALONG WITH THE WELL-BEING OF OUR NEIGHBORS, IS BEING THREATENED BY A ZONING LEGACY THAT NO LONGER MAKES ANY SENSE. AS A GEOSPATIAL ENGINEER, I KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON A MAP WHEN LAND USE GETS OUT OF ALIGNMENT. I ALSO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN REAL LIFE THE TRUCKS, THE NOISE, THE RUNOFF, THE RISK. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT INCONVENIENCE, IT'S ABOUT INCOMPATIBLE ZONING AT THE EXPENSE OF ACTUAL HUMAN LIVES. AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO BOUGHT HERE IN GOOD FAITH. AND AFTER ALMOST 19 YEARS IN THE MILITARY, MY HUSBAND AND I CHOSE THIS PLACE TO CALL HOME, TO SETTLE AND TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN. SO I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE, TO AMEND THE BILL TO

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM. YOU OKAY? SORRY. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. JANINE LACOUR, 1820 PARK BEACH DRIVE. THAT'S IN PERRYMAN. I'M TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UPZONING OF PARCEL F002 IN DISTRICT F, FROM AGRICULTURAL TO AND BUSINESS TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. THIS APPLICATION WOULD CONVERT OVER 50 ACRES OF PRIMARILY RURAL LAND TO A MORE INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL USE IN AN AREA THAT ALREADY LACKS APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND IS SURROUNDED BY AG ZONED LAND, ESSENTIALLY CREATING COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF A DONUT. THIS IS NOT ONLY CONCERNING, BUT IS REFLECTIVE OF HISTORICAL PATTERNS OF REZONING AND UP ZONING, WHILE FAILING TO ENSURE THE EXISTENCE OF ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S PLOPPING COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL IN THE MIDDLE OF AG BASED AND RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL SHAPED DONUT WITH THE EVENTUAL COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING CREEP THAT OVERTAKES THE WHOLE DONUT ITSELF. IT'S ALSO INCONSISTENT WITH THE HARTFORD NEXT MASTER PLAN OF 2016, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WILL NOT BE UPDATED UNTIL 2027. THE 2016 PLAN SEEKS TO PROMOTE HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES, ESTABLISH HARTFORD COUNTY AS A BLUE ZONE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE LIVE MEASURABLY LONGER, HEALTHIER AND HAPPIER LIVES, AND DEVELOPING A GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN TO IDENTIFY AN INTERCONNECTED, ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE SYSTEM TO SUPPORT THE MIGRATION OF NATIVE PLANT AND ANIMAL SPECIES, WHILE FOCUSING RESTORATION EFFORTS TO HELP IMPROVE AIR AND WATER QUALITY. THE UP ZONING CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION IS CONCERNING WHEN NEARBY AREAS LIKE PERRYMAN HAVE EXPERIENCED NEGATIVE AND HARMFUL IMPACTS OF UP ZONING AMID AG AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. ADDITIONALLY, BLUE ZONE COMMUNITIES WILL NOT OCCUR FOR COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THOSE WITHIN DISTRICT F, WHICH HAVE LONG CARRIED A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND HAVE HIGHER RATES OF SERIOUS HEALTH CONDITIONS. ADDITIONALLY, I'M ALSO REQUESTING THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND ADJACENT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARCELS IN PERRYMAN TO AG. THIS CHANGE WOULD REFLECT, REFLECT ACTUAL LAND USE, REDUCED INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN AND PROMOTE MORE CONSISTENT BALANCE PLANNING THROUGHOUT DISTRICT F, I'VE STUDIED THE HISTORY OF DISTRICT F PERRYMAN. I'VE READ THE PLANS, THE PROMISES, THE PROPOSALS AND ALL I SEE IS OVER THREE DECADES OF UNFULFILLED PROMISES. WATER SOURCE STUDIES THAT WERE NEVER UPDATED, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE NEVER BUILT, ROADS THAT REMAIN ON PAPER BUT NOT ON PAVEMENT. AND YET, WITH ALL THESE UNFULFILLED OBLIGATIONS, THE PEOPLE OF DISTRICT F AND SPECIFICALLY PERRYMAN, ARE STILL BEING ASKED TO BEAR MORE TO CARRY MORE WAREHOUSES, MORE TRUCKS, MORE NOISE, MORE BURDEN. PLEASE BRING YOUR COMMENTS TO A CLOSE, MA'AM. IT'S UNWISE AND IT'S UNSUSTAINABLE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. GREG LACOUR, 1820 PARK BEACH DRIVE IN PERRYMAN. I'M GOING TO TRY MAKING IT QUICK SINCE SHE WENT OVER BY A COUPLE SECONDS THERE. THANKS, GREG. YOU GOT IT. I'M GOING TO BE GOING ON THE SAME THEME HERE. SPEAKING ON OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UP ZONING OF THE PARCEL F-002 IN DISTRICT F, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THIS SPEECH, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE JUST A COMMENT.

I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR OVER THREE YEARS NOW, TRYING TO FIGHT SOME OF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN OUR AREA, AND NOW I SEE THAT THERE'S A NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME OUT, AND I JUST WISH YOU THE BEST. YOU GOT TO STICK TO IT. PERRYMAN HAS WE'VE LOOKED AFTER THIS AREA BECAUSE OF JUST THE WILDLIFE. IF ANYBODY KNOWS ME ON FACEBOOK, I'D LOVE TAKING PHOTOS OF THE EAGLES. THERE'S EAGLES OUT THERE. THERE'S HERONS OUT THERE. I'M JUST GOING TO LET YOU KNOW, JUST THIS PAST YEAR, I MEAN JUST OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE HAVE A NEST THAT WE THOUGHT WAS EGGS UP THERE. IT WAS DISTURBED BY PEOPLE TEARING DOWN TREES, AND IT WAS JUST A COUPLE

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WHY DO WE ALWAYS PICK ON THESE PEOPLE FROM THE ROUTE 40 CORRIDOR TO HAVE THIS OVERBURDENING? I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THIS. AND PEOPLE SAID, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE ZONING OF THE METRO PROPERTY. IT'S AGRICULTURAL. IT'S GOT ROADS THAT ARE NEVER GOING TO BE BUILT. PLEASE JUST LOOK AT THAT FOR ME. THANK YOU. I GOT IT AT LEAST A MINUTE LEFT. THANK YOU SIR. BETH POGGIOLI, FOLLOWED BY KEN SHANNON AND BO JARRETT. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER, PLEASE. HI. BETH POGGIOLI, 2740 GREEN ROAD, BALDWIN, MARYLAND, TWO 1013. I OPPOSE THE CHANGE IN ZONING FOR APPLICATION B005. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT. I'M GRATEFUL TO FOR THE WORK DONE BY THE CURRENT PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AND THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING. THEY HAVE MADE THIS PROCESS ACCESSIBLE AND TRANSPARENT. I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO GROWTH, SENDING OVER ONLY A SMALL NUMBER OF PROPERTIES RECOMMENDED FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING. I OPPOSE THE CHANGE OF THE ISSUE FOR B005. THE THOMAS SAWMILL AT THE CORNER OF PLEASANTVILLE AND MOUNTAIN ROADS. AFTER MUCH DUE DILIGENCE, I WANT TO OFFER A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PARCEL. BACK IN 2017, THE CURRENT B1 ZONING WAS 1.2. THE CURRENT B1 ZONING WAS 1.295 ACRES. DURING THE 2017 COMPREHENSIVE ZONING REVIEW, A REQUEST WAS MADE BY THE OWNER TO INCREASE THE B1 ZONING BY 5.48 ACRES. THIS REQUEST WAS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR CHANGE BY COUNTY EXECUTIVE GLASSMAN. HOWEVER, DURING THE AMENDMENT PHASE, COUNCILMAN WOODS VIA EMAIL BECAUSE HE WAS ABSENT FOR MOST OF THAT YEAR, REQUESTED 0.75 ACRES TO BE UP ZONED TO B1. THAT AMENDMENT PASSED, AND CURRENTLY THE SAWMILL HAS A TOTAL OF 2.505 ACRES OF B1 ZONING. OUT OF THE 48 ACRE PARCEL. NOW IN 2025, THE OWNERS HAVE REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL 1.97 ACRES OF B1 ZONING. IF APPROVED, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 4.02 ACRES OF B1 ZONING. IN THE MIDDLE OF FALLSTON, A QUIET AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. MY CONCERN IS THE PATTERN OF EXPANSION OF A BUSINESS USE OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. THAT IS IN CONTRADICTION TO THE HARFORD COUNTY MASTER LAND USE PLAN. I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD AS STATED QUOTE FOR ISSUE B005, THE PAB VOTED 5 TO 0 IN FAVOR OF RETAINING THE PROPERTY'S EXISTING B1 OR R ZONING. OUR VOTE IS STILL QUOTING. OUR VOTE IS LARGELY REFLECTIVE OF OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL B1 ZONING WOULD NOT REMEDY THE EXISTING NON-CONFORMING USE ISSUE, AS SAWMILLS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN B1 ZONING. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WISH TO DIVERSIFY AND EXPAND AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS, ETC. I PROPOSE THAT THEY CAN DO THAT NOW WITH THE EXISTING B1 ZONING AND LARGE RURAL RESIDENTIAL ACREAGE. THERE ARE OPTIONS HERE. THE FALLSTON COMMUNITY WOULD EMBRACE AN EXPANDED AGRICULTURAL ENTERPRISE. I ASK THAT WE PAUSE AND REEVALUATE, CONTINUING TO EXPAND MORE INTENSE USES OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THIS APPLICATION BE AMENDED TO NO CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. IN PROPERTY NUMBER KEN SHANNON. I LIVE AT 2044 PARK BEACH DRIVE IN PERRYMAN, AND I'M TESTIFYING IN RELATION TO PARCEL F002. I'M OPPOSED TO THE UP ZONING OF THAT PARCEL IN DISTRICT F FROM AG TO B, ONE FROM AG AND B1 TO CY. THIS PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY A

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SIMILARLY, I AM ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND ADJACENT LAND PARCELS IN PERRYMAN TO AG. THIS CHANGE WOULD REFLECT ACTUAL LAND USE, REDUCE INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN AND PROMOTE MORE CONSISTENT BALANCED PLANNING THROUGHOUT DISTRICT F.

I'VE SPENT A LARGE PART OF MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE WORKING IN DATA ANALYSIS AND SYSTEMS EVALUATION. I'VE REVIEWED THE NUMBERS AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE WHAT THEY SHOW. NOT OPINIONS, NOT EMOTIONS. FACTS. PERRYMAN HAS MORE WAREHOUSE SQUARE FOOTAGE PER PERSON THAN ANY OTHER COMMUNITY IN HARFORD COUNTY. 20 TIMES MORE. WE ALSO HAVE THE HIGHEST POVERTY RATE AMONG THOSE COMMUNITIES AND NONWHITE POPULATION 25% HIGHER THAN THE COUNTY AVERAGE. WE DON'T HAVE A REC CENTER. WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS ON SPESUTIA ROAD. THIS IS NOT BALANCED PLANNING. THIS IS INSTITUTIONAL OVERBURDENING. AND IT'S HAPPENING AT THE EXPENSE OF A COMMUNITY THAT'S ALREADY UNDERSERVED. I DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT THE PLAN TO PUT MEGA WAREHOUSES ON THE MITCHELL FARM FROM MY COUNCILMAN, BUT FROM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS. THAT SAME COUNCILMAN HAD PREVIOUSLY INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO MAKE THE MITCHELL FARM AN ENTERPRISE ZONE, ALTHOUGH I WAS LIVING IN PERMANENT AT THE TIME, AND I'M LESS THAN A MILE FROM THE EZ AND WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH IT EVERY TIME I ENTERED OR LEFT PERMANENT PENINSULA. I WAS NEVER ADVISED ABOUT THIS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE ENTERPRISE ZONE FOR DECADES, THE DISTRICT OF COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAVE SERVED DEVELOPERS INSTEAD OF CONSTITUENTS. THERE WAS NO TRANSPARENCY, AS THEY QUIETLY TURNED PERRYMAN INTO A DUMPING GROUND FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE NOW FORTUNATE TO HAVE JACOB BENNETT AND BOB CASSILLY LISTENING TO PERRYMAN'S ISSUES AND WORKING TO SUPPORT OUR NEEDS. THERE ARE ALREADY 10,000,000FT■!S OF WAREHOUSES AND ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, AND A WASTE TREATMENT CENTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT BISECT PERRYMAN PENINSULA. THAT IS ENOUGH. THE MITCHELL FARM SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF HOMES IN A RURAL AREA, AND SHOULD NOT BE A SITE FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS A TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE OF A DONUT HOLE OF THE TYPE THAT PLANNING AND ZONING TYPICALLY DEALS WITH ADMINISTRATIVELY AS A ZONING ISSUE. I URGE YOU TO AMEND THIS BILL, REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND THE SURROUNDING PARCELS TO AGRICULTURAL, NOT JUST TO CORRECT THE MAP, BUT TO CORRECT THE INEQUITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROPERTY NUMBER PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. BO SHARRETT, SEVEN SHALON HILL ROAD, OWINGS MILLS, MARYLAND. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON D-011. I'M HERE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT MY REZONING APPLICATION. D011. I'M IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING THE LAND IN THE JARRETTSVILLE LIONS CLUB, WHICH WILL ULTIMATELY BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, IF THE LIONS CLUB IS UNABLE TO RAISE THE NECESSARY FUNDS TO PURCHASE ALL 38 ACRES, WE NEED EQUAL ZONING SETBACKS TO THOSE OF MY NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. THIS WOULD PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY TO KEEP THE LIONS CLUB IN ITS CURRENT DESIRED LOCATION. THE LIONS CLUB IS ABLE TO BUY THE ENTIRE FARM. MY ZONING REQUEST IS A MOOT POINT AND NOT NEEDED. LAST FALL, I WAS CANDID AT A LIONS CLUB BOARD MEETING STATING IF THEY COULD FIND ANOTHER LOCATION, IT WOULD RESOLVE MY CHALLENGES WITH THE LAND. HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT A REALISTIC OPTION GIVEN OUR SHARED GOAL OF KEEPING THE LIONS CLUB WHERE IT IS. WHILE I INVITED THEM TO BE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, THEY PREFER TO REMAIN APOLITICAL, A DECISION I RESPECT EVEN IF I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND IT. WHAT WE DO AGREE ON IS RELOCATING THE LIONS CLUB WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY HARM, IF NOT CRIPPLE, THEIR ABILITY TO RAISE MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY. NO ONE WANTS THAT. NOR DO WE WANT TO DISPLACE THE BELOVED SUNFLOWER FESTIVAL. I WANT TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE. BUT I NEED YOUR SUPPORT. WHEN I CONTACTED SHANE GRIMM'S OFFICE AT HARFORD COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING, I ASKED WHY MY NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED THE VB ZONE DEPTH THAN I DO. HE COULDN'T PROVIDE AN ANSWER BECAUSE THOSE BOUNDARIES WERE DRAWN LONG AGO.

HOWEVER, HE CONFIRMED THAT THE LAND USE MAP SERVES ONLY AS A GUIDELINE FOR ZONING DECISIONS, NOT A FIXED BOUNDARY, WHICH IS WHY I WOULD WANT TO ADDRESS TWO ERRORS IN MY APPLICATIONS.

COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ASSESSMENT REPORT PAGE TWO INCORRECTLY DESCRIBES THE LAND USE ADJACENT TO MY PROPERTY. IT FAILS TO MENTION CA GRAVEL PAVING AND EXCAVATING COMPANY AS A VB ZONE PROPERTY, AND ONLY REFERS TO GRIMMEL FARM, LLC AS A 129 ACRE FARM FURTHER NORTH. PAGE THREE.

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PLUS THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JERMAINE STANLEY, AND I LIVE AT 2010 PARK BEACH DRIVE, PERRYMAN, ABERDEEN. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON BILL 25 002. HARFORD COUNTY'S 2025 COMPREHENSIVE ZONING LEGISLATION. SPECIFICALLY, I'M TESTIFYING IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UPZONING OF PARCEL F002 IN DISTRICT F FROM AGRICULTURE AND BUSINESS TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. THIS APPLICATION WOULD CONVERT OVER 50 ACRES OF PRIMARY RURAL LAND TO A MORE INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL USE IN AN AREA THAT ALREADY LACKS APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS SETS A CONCERNING PRECEDENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN NEARBY AREAS LIKE PERRYMAN HAVE LONG CARRIED A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. I'M ALSO REQUESTING THE COUNTY COUNCIL AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND ADJACENT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARCELS IMPAIRMENT TO AGRICULTURE OR AGRICULTURAL.

THIS CHANGE WOULD REFLECT ACTUAL LAND USE, REDUCE INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN AND PROMOTE MORE CONSISTENT, BALANCED PLANNING THROUGHOUT DISTRICT F. I MOVED TO PERRYMAN MORE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WITH MY WIFE, JENNA. I'M A TECH LEADER IN THE CYBERSECURITY INDUSTRY. WE MOVED HERE FROM THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY REGION, WHICH IS THE GREATER WASHINGTON, DC AREA, LOOKING FOR A QUIETER AND MORE GROUNDED PLACE TO LIVE. WHAT WE FOUND WAS SURPRISED.

WHAT HAS SURPRISED US? NOT IN A GOOD WAY. DESPITE PAYING SIGNIFICANT TAXES THAT ARE ON PAR WITH MONTGOMERY COUNTY. THE TAXES, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, INVESTMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPAIRMENT IS SHOCKINGLY LOW. ROADS ARE WORN DOWN, AS YOU'VE HEARD. NO SHOULDERS. FLOODING IS FREQUENT AND THE COMMUNITY FEELS FORGOTTEN. NOW, I'M A TECH LEADER WHO HAS SAID ON SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL TECH BOARDS, NON-PROFITS I'VE LED, LARGE TECH NONPROFIT AND GREATER WASHINGTON DC, AND I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF LISTENING TO YOUR MEMBERS OR YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND I URGE YOU TO AMEND THIS BILL. COUNTY COUNCIL AND REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND SURROUNDING PARCELS TO AGRICULTURAL SHOW. THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE INVESTING IN THIS COMMUNITY, LIKE YOU'VE HEARD FROM US ALL THIS EVENING, THAT THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO INVEST TO NOT JUST CONCRETE AND TAX REVENUE, BUT IN LIVABILITY, STABILITY AND LONG TERM VISION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. IN PROPERTY NUMBER. YES.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE FLASH, 1902 NORWOOD COURT, A FALLSTON. I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF HARFORD, SO I WILL GO THROUGH QUICKLY TEN PARCELS IN WHICH WE OPPOSE THE UP ZONING OR CHANGE IN ZONING. AS I SAID, I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF.

CAN I HAVE THE NUMBERS FIRST, PLEASE? A SEVEN THROUGH A B1, B4 B5, D18 E5 AND E6. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE IS HEARD ON THE DECISIONS THAT WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE OF HARFORD COUNTY. SO A7 THROUGH A10, THE ONE REFERENCING PAUL'S LANE. THESE PROPERTIES ARE NEAR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND ARE ACCESSED BY A NARROW ROADS LIKE ROUTE SEVEN AND PAUL'S LANE. REZONING TO THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL WOULD PERMIT INTENSE AND POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS USES THAT MAY IMPACT SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND ROAD CONDITIONS. SO WE DO ASK THAT YOU DENY GI AND RETAIN ITS SCI

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GOOD EVENING, BETH SHEAR 2814 CROSS COUNTRY COURT IN FALLSTON, MARYLAND. I AM OPPOSED TO ANY CHANGE TO THE ZONING OF B00 FOUR, B005 AND B001. IN THE CASES OF B004 AND 005, THE FOLLOWING ASSESSMENT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED BY THE HARFORD COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.

THESE REQUESTED UP ZONING ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE HARFORD COUNTY LAND USE PLAN. HARFORD NEXT, THE GUIDE IN PLACE TO DIRECT RESPONSIBLE PLANNING FOR THE COUNTY. THESE PROPERTIES ARE OUTSIDE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA WITHOUT PROGRAMED OR PLANNED FUTURE SERVICE, AND THESE PROPERTIES ARE OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. ADDITIONALLY, AS IT RELATES TO B004, IT LIES ADJACENT TO. IT IS ALREADY A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT LIES ADJACENT TO ALL AG ZONED PROPERTY WITH HOMES ON THEM. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THERE. THAT OWNER HAS BEEN OPERATING AS A NONCONFORMING USE BY CHOICE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. B005 HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.

B005 RECEIVED ALREADY IN EXPANSION OF ITS B1 ZONED AREA IN THE LAST COMPREHENSIVE REZONING. THESE FOLKS, AS MR. MISS POGGIOLI MENTIONED, CAN DO A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND WE'D LOVE TO SUPPORT THAT ON THE CURRENT PROPERTY AS IT IS ZONED. IN GENERAL, THERE SHOULD NEVER BE AN EXPECTATION FROM ANY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER THAT THERE CAN BE A MODIFICATION OF A COUNTY LAW TO CREATE SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY PURCHASED AND AGREED TO BY SIGNING A DEED TO A PROPERTY AND THEN FILING THAT DEED. THAT IS, WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO A HABIT OF ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS VERSUS PERMISSION. THIS SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO HAPPEN BY WAY OF A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, OR AN UP ZONING IN AN AREA WHERE IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE COUNTER TO THE MAJORITY OF PARAMETERS IN PLACE THAT GUIDE THE ZONING OF A PROPERTY OF THAT AREA AND ANY SURROUNDING AREA. THIS BRINGS ME TO B001. THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY FAIRLY INTENSE. IT'S A FAIRLY INTENSE BUSINESS USE. IT WANTS TO BE MORE INTENSE. ITS BOUNDARIES ARE SURROUNDED LARGELY BY RESIDENTIAL USE AND SMALL RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS USE. THE IMPACT TO THE GREATER COMMUNITY OF INCREASING THIS ZONING WILL

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JEFF BECK, 102 SHELL ROAD IN JOPPA, MARYLAND. DISTRICT A SPEAKING TO APPLICATIONS A002005013016 AND 017. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ESTEEMED COUNCIL PERSONS, I STAND BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT A IN HARFORD COUNTY, IN OPPOSITION OF THE FOLLOWING.

ZONING REQUEST FOR TWO, FIVE, 13, 16 AND 17. IN DISTRICT A, ALL FIVE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED R1.

FOUR OF THEM ARE REQUESTING UP ZONING TO R4. A FIVE THE EXCEPTION REQUESTING R2. WHEN WE SEE THE R4 ZONING DESIGNATION, WE KNOW THAT MEANS THAT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IS COMING. FOUR OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOPPA FARM ROAD AND PHILADELPHIA ROAD, WHICH IS AN ALREADY TREACHEROUS INTERSECTION ALLOWING FOR HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN THIS LOCATION WITHOUT FIRST HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE AND INTENSE CORRECTIONS MADE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. SIMILARLY, A002 IS CURRENTLY A SMALL MOBILE HOME PARK OFF OF A STRETCH OF TRIMBLE ROAD THAT HAS SEVERAL SEVERAL SHARP CURVES, NO SHOULDER AND NO SIDEWALK. NEITHER OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE SUITABLE FOR HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, AND THE LARGE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THAT WE ALL KNOW WOULD FOLLOW CLOSE BEHIND. ADDITIONALLY, EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE FULLY SURROUNDED BY R1. AS PER ZONING DIRECTOR GRIMES REPORT, THE REQUESTED UP ZONING FOR EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES IS INCONSISTENT WITH THEIR SURROUNDINGS. WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENTS FOR ROADWAYS, AS WELL AS FOR WATER AND SEWER SERVICE, AND WOULD LIKELY CONTRIBUTE TO AN INCREASED BURDEN FOR OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, WHICH IS ALREADY OVERBURDENED, AS WE KNOW. AS SUCH, I URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS THE PLANNING ADVISORY BOARD, AND STICK WITH NO CHANGE FOR THESE APPLICANTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. KENYA HARRIS, FOLLOWED BY DAGMAR SACHS AND GEORGIE ELWOOD. MISS HARRIS. CALL YOUR NEXT SPEAKER. DAGMAR SACHS, FOLLOWED BY GEORGIE ELWOOD. GOOD EVENING, MADAM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. AND PROPERTY NUMBER. THANK YOU.

I'M DAGMAR SACHS AND I LIVE AT 1808 PARK BEACH DRIVE, PERRYMAN PENINSULA IN ABERDEEN. I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY TO TESTIFY MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED UPZONING OF PARCEL F-002 IN DISTRICT F FROM AG, AG AND BUSINESS ONE TO COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL. WE'VE SEEN WHAT CAN ALREADY HAPPEN WITH THIS. THIS APPLICATION IS GOING TO BE PUSHING INDUSTRIAL EXPANSION INTO AREAS THAT SIMPLY CANNOT HANDLE IT. THE ROADS ON OUR SIDE OF 95 ARE FALLING APART. THE GPS ROUTES DON'T WORK. TRUCKERS DON'T USE TRUCKER GPS. THEY USE CAR GPS AND IT PUTS THEM ON ROADS THEY DON'T BELONG ON. OKAY, RESIDENTS LIKE ME AND A NUMBER YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM ARE PAYING THE PRICE OF THIS. WHILE I'M AT IT, I'M ALSO GOING TO REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL AMEND THE BILL TO REZONE THE MITCHELL FARM AND THE NEARBY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARCELS BACK TO AGRICULTURE. THAT LAND HAD NO BUSINESS BEING ZONED INDUSTRIAL, AND WE CONTINUE TO TREAT IT IN A WAY THAT IS BOTH RECKLESS AND INSULTING TO THOSE OF US WHO LIVE HERE, NOT JUST THE HUMANS.

THAT INCLUDES THE ANIMALS AND THE EAGLES. I'M ANGRY AND I'M NOT SUGARCOATING IT. JUST THREE WEEKS AGO, AN 18 WHEELER TOOK OUT MY MAILBOX AT 9:00 AT NIGHT. OUR ROAD IS BARELY ONE CAR WIDTH WIDE, AND AT 9:00 I WAS EATING DINNER AND I SAW AN 18 WHEELER GO BY MY HOUSE, AND HE COULDN'T MAKE THE TURN. SO CHUCK MIZEN HAD TO HELP HIM BACK DOWN THE ROAD THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE, BACKING AN 18 WHEELER DOWN A SINGLE COUNTRY ROAD WITH NO LIGHTS, NO SIDEWALKS AND NO CURBS. AND HE BACKED INTO MY MAILBOX TWICE. I DON'T THINK ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER HAD TO DEAL

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THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE? AND THE PROPERTY YOU'RE SPEAKING TO. MY NAME IS GEORGIE ELWOOD. I LIVE AT 3822 BELMONT DRIVE IN JARRETTSVILLE, MARYLAND. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT D DASH O 11. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE THIS, SO PLEASE BE PATIENT WITH ME. TAKE YOUR TIME, MA'AM. ONE. IT'S THE FLOWERS I WOULD MISS. BUT SECOND, WE'RE A SMALL COMMUNITY. WE ALREADY HAVE HEAVY TRAFFIC, AND FOR THAT TO BE APPROVED, IT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT WORSE. I DID LISTEN TO THE GENTLEMAN. I WASN'T AWARE THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO PURCHASE IT.

MEANING? BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER IT. OR SMALL TOWN. PLEASE DON'T APPROVE IT. WE NEED IT TO STAY AS IT IS AGRICULTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MA'AM. NICOLE MAGUIRE, FOLLOWED BY KATIE MEAD AND MARY LYNN. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

NICOLE MAGUIRE, 1315 EMMAUS COURT, JOPPA. I AM HERE TO OPPOSE THE REZONING OF A012 PARCEL 59. I AM A MEMBER OF CLAYTON VISTA HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND WE OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE LOT ON THE CORNER OF CLAYTON ROAD AND PHILADELPHIA ROAD FOR SEVERAL REASONS. NUMBER ONE, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE SCHOOL CHILDREN OF ALL AGES OUTSIDE PLAYING, ENJOYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS ALREADY A SPEEDING ISSUE THAT WE ARE FIGHTING BY CONSTANTLY POSTING SPEED LIMIT SIGNS AND CHILDREN AT PLAY SIGNS. THE SCHOOL BUS STOP IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE TO THE WANTED BUSINESS. REZONING. REZONING THE AREA WILL ADD TO THE RISK FOR OUR CHILDREN. TWO THAT CORNER IS A KNOWN LOCATION FOR TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THAT STRIP OF PHILADELPHIA ROAD IS AN I-95 DETOUR FOR CONSTRUCTION AND ACCIDENTS, THERE IS ALWAYS A HEAVY FLOW OF TRAFFIC. CLAYTON ROAD IS ALSO A DETOUR FOR ONGOING CONSTRUCTION ON 152. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF CLAYTON ROAD AND PHILADELPHIA ROAD. BECAUSE OF THIS, WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES ON 152 OR I-95, ACCIDENTS ALWAYS OCCUR. REZONING THIS CORNER WILL ADD MORE TRAFFIC ISSUES TO THE INTERSECTION. NUMBER THREE, CLAYTON ROAD COULD NOT WITHSTAND EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC. THE MATERIALS CLAYTON USED. EXCUSE ME. THE MATERIALS CLAYTON ROAD IS MADE OF ARE FOR LOW TRAFFIC AREAS. THE REZONING. REZONING THE AREA WILL CAUSE MAJOR DAMAGE TO THE ROADS. AND NUMBER FOUR, THE MOST COMPELLING REASON FOR THE OPPOSITION IS THEY ARE ALREADY VACANT. BUILDINGS ON NEARBY PULASKI HIGHWAY THAT ARE AVAILABLE USING BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED AS B3 PARCELS WILL ADD TO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT TAKING AWAY THE BEAUTY OF THE AREA AND CAUSING RISK TO OUR CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY. SO IN ALL, PLEASE AGREE WITH THE WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AND VOTE NO ON A012. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

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WE'VE HAD FLOODING BESIDES THE BESIDES THROUGH THE FARM. BUT THAT WHOLE ROUTE SEVEN HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN MULTIPLE TIMES. BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR IT WAS A LITTLE BETTER LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEY DID A THEY DID A LITTLE BIT OF CORRECTION ON ROUTE SEVEN. BUT IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A LOT YOU KNOW, A LOT. IT'S I THINK THE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ON THE MASTER, THE COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN. THIS THING THIS THING AND IT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING LIKE, IS IT GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE FROM 95 OR THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A NEW EXIT, OR IS IT GOING TO COME FROM EXIT 80 AND COME DOWN INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND OR, YOU KNOW, IS IT GOING TO COME? IS IT GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE FROM THE DEAD END, FROM OUR CURRENTLY DEAD END STREET, YOU KNOW, UP TO THE FARMLAND? AND THEREFORE HAVING LIKE, VALLEY FORGE IS DEAD ENDS RIGHT INTO THAT. AND THEN SO ARE THEY GOING TO COME OFF OF 95 AND COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE WHOLE STOP THE IRON PIPELINE PIECE OF THINGS AS WELL? THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN. SO THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF HOUSING, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, IT'S ALSO AMERTON REC AND BELCAMP RECS DEVELOPMENT SO FAR IS NOT AND IT'S NOT MEANT TO SUPPORT THAT AT THIS POINT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I JUST HOPE YOU WILL CHOOSE AGAINST F001. THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT. GOOD EVENING MA'AM.

NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. AND APPLICANT NUMBER. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARY BOLAND. I LIVE AT 3332 COOL BRANCH ROAD IN CHURCHVILLE. AND I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT TO YOU TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION OF D018. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE. I'M 21 YEARS OLD, AND I AM MAKING 90% OF THIS UP ON THE FLY, SO BEAR WITH ME. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER, LARSON SAYER, MOVED TO HARFORD COUNTY IN 1960 AND PURCHASED 600 ACRES CALLED WAFFLE HILL FARM OUT IN CHURCHVILLE. AND MY GREAT GRANDFATHER, WILLIAM MCGURK, MOVED TO MARYLAND FARM IN 1941. SO WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. AND I WANT TO COME TO YOU GUYS TONIGHT AND ASK YOU, WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING FARMERS WITH THIS CONSTANT REZONING OF AGRICULTURE? THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FIRST. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES. WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING TO THE PEOPLE THAT PUT THE FOOD ON YOUR PLATE? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS TONIGHT. I WANT TO KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO END. WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR HARFORD COUNTY? DO YOU WANT THESE FARMERS HERE FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS, OR DO YOU WANT IT TO TURN INTO TOWSON OR BALTIMORE CITY? WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR HARFORD COUNTY? THE APPEAL OF HARFORD COUNTY IS THE AGRICULTURE, ITS LANDS, ITS STREAMS, ITS CREEKS. IT'S WHY MY FAMILY PLANTED THEIR ROOTS HERE. AND LOOK WHAT IT'S TURNING INTO.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVERY TIME WE LOSE AN ACRE OF FARM, EVERY TIME WE LOSE AN ACRE OF FARMLAND, SO DOES OUR SECURITY AND HEALTHY FOOD AND RESPONSIBLY, ETHICALLY FARMED LAND. 75% OR MORE OF THE MONEY THAT YOU SPEND WITH A SMALL FARMER RECIRCULATES IN THE COMMUNITY SEVEN TIMES OR MORE, COMPARABLE TO 15% AT THE SUPERMARKET. I ASK YOU GUYS TO BEAR IN MIND WHEN VOTING ON THESE BILLS, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FIRST, THE PEOPLE WHO FEED YOU, THE PEOPLE WHO PUT FOOD ON YOUR PLATE TONIGHT WHEN YOU GO HOME, IF YOU'RE GOING TO

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ADDRESS 3095 BEL AIR ROAD. ONE I VERY MUCH RESPECT FARMERS AND FARMING LAND. THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF GROUND IS RIGHT ON ROUTE ONE A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. WE HAD SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS I GUESS, ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A GOLF DRIVING RANGE, A MINIATURE GOLF COURSE, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES THERE. THROUGH ALL THE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO.

KRAUSS WAS DOING A STRAIGHTENING, STRAIGHTENING AND ALIGNING OF ROUTE ONE AND PERRY HALL, AND THERE WAS ALL KINDS OF ROCK. AND BECAUSE THE PROPERTY I HAVE, YOU COULDN'T FARM IT IF YOU HAD TO. IT'S NOTHING BUT ROCK AND GARBAGE GROUND. SO IT ISN'T LIKE I UPSET ANY KIND OF FARMLAND. SO THEY TRUCKED OUT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 30,000 LOADS OF PRIMARILY ROCK AND DIRT BECAUSE IT WAS GARBAGE GROUND. THE STATE WANTED ME TO GO ALONG WITH KRAUSS AND SO DID HARFORD COUNTY. AND THEY MADE IT QUITE CLEAR. IT'S A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THEY'RE FINE WITH MY INTENT. THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T PURSUE UPGRADING THE ZONING A LONG TIME AGO, I HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES, AND IT KIND OF THREW ME OUT OF THE SADDLE. SO I'M BACK IN THE SADDLE. PLUS, SOME OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS WANT TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SEEKING AN UPGRADING ON THE ZONING. THERE AGAIN, IT'S COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. IT'S GARBAGE GROUND. IT'S ROCK UP THE GAZOO IF YOU EVER TRAVEL DOWN ROUTE ONE. SO YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS. IT'S WHERE THE GOLF DRIVING RANGE IS AND THE MINIATURE GOLF FACILITY. AND WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION, STORAGE. ALL THESE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS HAPPEN MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO STAY UP ON THINGS.

BUT I'M SEMI BACK IN THE SADDLE WORKING ON THIS. SO ALL I ASK IS YOUR CONSIDERATION. USE A LITTLE COMMON SENSE. I'M NOT UPSETTING AN APPLE CART. EVERYBODY I KNOW IN THAT AREA HAS NO PROBLEM WITH CHANGING THE ZONING. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU SIR. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MISTER PRESIDENT.

FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE THIS EVENING. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH 45 SPEAKERS IN A RELATIVELY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE OF YOUR PARTICIPATION.

SHANE. MATT. ALEX, WANT TO THANK YOU, AS ALWAYS. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD BEFORE WE GO? NO, NO, I JUST THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND I'M HAPPY THAT THIS WILL BE MY LAST COMPREHENSIVE REZONING. WITH THAT, WE WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 25.

CONTINUED UNTIL. OH, HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT? I FORGOT WE HAVE ONE NEXT WEEK TOO. WE HAD SO MUCH FUN TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING YOU GUYS BACK ON THE EIGHTH. SO YES, IT WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING. WE'LL RETURN ON AND I. FIVE. CHAIR CALLS TO ORDER.

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[4. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS ]

AND FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPORTING SO MANY. I ESPECIALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE MILITARY CHILDREN THAT WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT. HEARING THE STATISTICS OF OVER 3000 CHILDREN IN HARFORD COUNTY THAT ARE MILITARY CHILDREN, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ALWAYS IN FLUX. AS PEOPLE COME AND GO, IT JUST REALLY TOUCHES UPON WHAT A HUGE IMPACT THAT IS ON THE COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU CHILDREN PERSONALLY WHO CAME INTO MY CLASSROOM AND THEN MOVED AWAY AND THEN SURPRISINGLY CAME BACK EVEN AFTER BEING IN MY CLASSROOM. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, IN MY TIME AS AN EDUCATOR, THE FAMILIES THAT YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH AND THEY MOVE ON TO LOUISIANA OR GEORGIA OR HAWAII AND, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS THINK, OH, ARE YOU EVER GOING TO COME BACK? AND SOMETIMES THEY DO AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T. SOMETIMES THEY DO AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND CROSS EACH OTHER. IT IS A BIG TOLL TO HAVE TO LEAVE A PLACE, TO HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR FAMILY, TO HAVE TO, TO START OVER. NEW FRIENDS, NEW SCHOOLS. AND IT'S A SACRIFICE THE WHOLE FAMILY MAKES TOGETHER TO HELP OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S SOMETHING WORTH CELEBRATING AND SOMETHING WORTH RECOGNIZING. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS A COUNTY COUNCIL IN A COMMUNITY LIKE HARFORD COUNTY, THAT WE TAKE TIME TO RECOGNIZE OUR MILITARY CHILDREN THROUGHOUT THIS MONTH. SO WE GET A PICTURE. I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS PROFESSIONALLY, MISTER RILEY. ONE LITTLE TINY DAY AND THEN. YEAH. I'M NOT MOVING. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, ALLISON, AND I'LL INVITE YOU TO SPEAK. AND THEN IF ANY OF OUR MILITARY CHILDREN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MELISSA SANTIAGO, AND I'M THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UPROOTED CHESAPEAKE. AND I'M TRULY HONORED AND GRATEFUL TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF THE MONTH OF THE MILITARY CHILD. IT IS TIME TO CELEBRATE AND HONOR ALL KIDS CONNECTED TO MILITARY SERVICE, WHETHER THEY'RE CHILDREN OF ACTIVE DUTY SERVICE MEMBERS, RESERVE VETERANS, OR GOLD STAR FAMILIES. THESE KIDS OFTEN FACE CHALLENGES LIKE FREQUENT MOVES, LONG SEPARATIONS FROM PARENTS AND THE EMOTIONAL WEIGHT OF THEIR PARENTS SERVICE AND SACRIFICES. BY CELEBRATING THEM, WE RECOGNIZE THEIR STRENGTH, RESILIENCE, AND THE UNIQUE ROLE THEY PLAY IN SUPPORTING OUR MILITARY COMMUNITY. IT'S A CHANCE TO SHOW APPRECIATION FOR THEIR COURAGE AND REMIND THEM NOT THAT THEIR SACRIFICES ARE VALUED NO MATTER WHAT THEIR FAMILY SITUATION IS OR TO CHESAPEAKE'S MISSION IS TO EMPOWER MILITARY CONNECTED AND ENGLISH LEARNER STUDENTS BY ORGANIZING INCLUSIVE EDUCATIONAL AND CULTURAL EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. ADVOCATE FOR THE NEEDS OF BOTH GROUPS WHILE EDUCATING BOTH THE SCHOOL AND LOCAL COMMUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF OUR YOUTH COMMITTEE THAT ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE THIS

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THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PROCLAMATION, AND DON'T FORGET TO WEAR YOUR PURPLE SHIRT ON APRIL 15TH IN HONOR OF MILITARY CONNECTED KIDS IN HARFORD COUNTY.

JUST SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND SEEING US TODAY. IT'S REALLY BEEN NICE TO GO UP HERE AND DO ALL THIS AND HAVE IT ALL WORK OUT. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING. I MIGHT LOOK YOUNG, BUT THAT YOUNG MAN WAS ONCE A KINDERGARTNER IN MY CLASS, SO CLEARLY I'M NOT THAT YOUNG. THANK YOU FOLKS. SO, CHRISTY, SHERIFF. COLONEL. MAJOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SEE YOU LATER. HI. HOW ARE YOU? I STAND ON THE SIDE OF THIS SPECIAL INVITATION OR WHAT? HI, CHRISTY. NICE TO BE HERE. A COUPLE TIMES. THIS WAS UNEXPECTED. I HAD NO IDEA YOU WERE LEAVING UNTIL YOU MENTIONED IT THIS PAST WEEK. AND WE COULDN'T LET YOU GET AWAY FROM HERE WITHOUT RECOGNIZING YOU FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE. NOT ONLY THE SHERIFF AND THE DEPUTIES, BUT FOR THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE TO CITIZENS ON SOME OF OUR DARKEST DAYS. YOU WERE THE VOICE THAT THE CITIZENS HEARD. AND SO WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THE SHERIFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING. I DIDN'T SAY WHERE YOU WERE GOING BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT YOU CAN. YOU CAN SPEAK TO. BEFORE HE DOES. I WILL SAY CHRISTY IS NOT BEING FIRED BECAUSE THAT RUMOR RAN AROUND APPARENTLY A LITTLE BIT. I WOULD BE A FOOL TO LET HER GO VOLUNTARILY. THIS IS HER CHOICE TO MOVE ON TO BIGGER. AND I WON'T SAY BETTER. I'M A LITTLE BIASED AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BUT TO BIGGER THINGS AND MORE TO COME ON THAT LATER. SHE'S BEEN ASKED NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THE NEW ASSIGNMENT IS, BUT SHE'S MOVING ON. AND AS YOU HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, SHE HAS SEEN US THROUGH SOME HORRIBLE EVENTS. CHRISTY HAS BEEN MY DIRECTOR OF MEDIA AND COMMUNITY PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. SHE RIGHT. SHE ASSUMED THAT JOB RIGHT BEFORE I CAME INTO OFFICE, AND I WAS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO MAKE A STUPID DECISION AND REPLACE HER. SHE STAYED IN PLACE, AND SHE HAS BEEN A SUPER INVALUABLE.

ALTHOUGH WE ALL HAVE TO BE REPLACED AT SOME POINT IN TIME. MEMBER OF THE COMMAND OF THE HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. SHE ACTUALLY HAS A JOB THAT HER HUSBAND, WHO ONCE HELD AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND NOTHING AGAINST EDDIE SERVICE, BUT SHE WAS PUT THROUGH SOME VERY CHALLENGING THINGS THAT WE SAW AT VANCE GRANITE, THE LOSS OF OUR DEPUTIES IN 2016, THE RITE AID SHOOTING, THE JOPPATOWNE SCHOOL SHOOTING, EVEN THOUGH YOU DID THAT MORE REMOTELY, BUT JUST SO MANY TRAGIC EVENTS THAT STRUCK OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU WERE HOW THIS OFFICE RESPONDED OUT IN THE PUBLIC, YOU WILL BE MISSED. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.

WE'VE BEEN HERE 250 YEARS, BUT YOU MADE THIS A BETTER PLACE. AND I SAY THAT'S THE GOAL FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT I HIRE. PLEASE LEAVE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE A BETTER PLACE THAN WHAT YOU FOUND IT. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THIS YOUNG LADY IS LEAVING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE A BETTER PLACE THAN WHAT? SHE FOUND IT. OH, WELL, YOU CALLED ME YOUNG. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW EVERYONE'S BEEN HERE A LONG TIME TONIGHT. AND I REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS SO VERY KIND. AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S TOTALLY UNNECESSARY. I LIKE TO BE IN THE BACKGROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS WHAT THEY NEED. THIS JOB HAS BEEN ONE OF THE GREATEST HONORS OF MY LIFE AND SERVING THIS COMMUNITY, AND IT IS MY SINCERE PROMISE THAT WHEN YOU HEAR FROM ME AGAIN NEXT WEEK, I WILL BE CONTINUING TO SERVE CITIZENS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE. SO THANK YOU, SHERIFF. THANK YOU, MAJORS COLONEL AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN JORDAN, BE IT HEREBY KNOWN THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND, ON THIS FIRST DAY OF APRIL 2025, RECOGNIZES AND CONGRATULATE CHRISTY HOPKINS, DIRECTOR OF MEDIA AND PUBLIC RELATIONS, HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 12 YEARS OF

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AND FOR NOT AS GOOD AS SHELBY. OKAY. AND, SHELBY, IF I MAY, CAN I BRING MY COUNCIL MEMBER DOWN AND TAKE A COUPLE PICTURES? MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW, RIGHT? I USED TO DO COMMERCIALS. OH, I LIKE THAT, I LIKE THAT. HE'S GOING TO GET HIM. OKAY. DO YOU WANT US? YES YES YES YES YES. I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD THEM WITH YOU. I'M SORRY. NO NO NO. DARKSIDERS. WHAT PEOPLE TELL ME. STEP BACK FOR A MINUTE. YEP. YOU GOT IT. COME ON IN HERE. STANDING HERE. TELL ME, HOW MANY CAN YOU GET? I CAN'T GET ANYONE FROM. THE YOUNG GUYS. THE YOUNG GUYS CAN KNEEL. HOW'S THAT? BACK HERE? OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. APPRECIATE YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU. BROTHER. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT. NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT OKAY. THANK YOU, MY FRIEND. GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD TO SEE YOU. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU YOU BIND, SHERIFF. YOU BIND. NO. OKAY. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS,

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS ]

HARFORD COUNTY CULTURAL ARTS ADVISORY BOARD. MISS SERTEAUX, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE. MICHAEL MICHAEL BAILEY. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. I'M MR. JAN GIORDANO. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE NEW APPOINTMENT OF MR. BAILEY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR. BENNETT? I JUST LIKE TO SAY HIS WHOLE FAMILY HAS BEEN SUCH A GREAT RESOURCE TO OUR COMMUNITY. WITH MR. BAILEY SERVING THE COMMUNITY AT APG AS A CIVILIAN EMPLOYEE AND HIS WIFE SERVING IN COMMUNITY GROUPS. IT'S JUST WONDERFUL THAT THEY GIVE SO MUCH BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON, MR. PRESIDENT, I MRS. ROBERT I, MR. GIORDANO I MR. RILEY I MRS. BORSATO I MR. BENNETT I THERE BEING SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ONE VACANT. THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED TURNING TOWING APPEALS BOARD. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MR. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF RICHARD LYNCH TO THE TOWING APPEALS BOARD. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE MR. LYNCH TO THE TOWING APPEALS BOARD. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT, MRS. BENNETT OR. NOT MARRIED TO NALANDA? GOOD LORD, ROBERT, I, MR. GIORDANO, I MR. RILEY. MR. RILEY I SAID I OH I'M SORRY

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[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS ]

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE RESOLUTION, AND I'M HOPEFUL FOR A SUCCESSFUL VOTE THIS WEEK. THE EYES OF OUR NATION ARE FOCUSED ON HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY, WHERE THE MURDER TRIAL OF RACHEL MARTIN'S KILLER IS MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO LOOK NO FURTHER THAN RACHEL'S CASE OR THE CASE OF YOUNG KAYLA HAMILTON TO UNDERSTAND THE TRAGIC IMPACT OF IGNORING OUR NATION'S IMMIGRATION LAWS. THESE TWO INNOCENT HARFORD COUNTY WOMEN WERE SENSELESSLY, SENSELESSLY MURDERED BY HARFORD COUNTY BY CRIMINAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY. AS SOME OF YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE, THE 287 G PROGRAM IS A PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE THAT WAS CREATED BY PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON IN THE 1990S. OUR OFFICE WAS ACCEPTED INTO THE PROGRAM BY PRESIDENT OBAMA, WHO EXPANDED THIS IMPORTANT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PARTNERSHIP. WE WERE ONE OF 33 AGENCIES ADDED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA. TO BE CLEAR, OUR 287 G PROGRAM DEALS ONLY WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES IN OUR COMMUNITIES, WHO ARE ARRESTED FOR THOSE CRIMES AND THEN BOOKED IN TO OUR DETENTION CENTER.

ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME WHO SEEK TO DISTRACT FROM THIS PARTNERSHIP, CLAIMING IT TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, IT IS NOT IN MARYLAND. THERE IS ONLY THE CORRECTIONAL BASED PROGRAM, AND IT IN NO WAY INVOLVES LAW ENFORCEMENT. CLAIMS TO THE CONTRARY ARE EITHER THOSE WHO ARE UGLY, UNEDUCATED, OR MISINFORMED ON THE ISSUE, OR THOSE WHO WISH TO SELL A DIFFERENT NARRATIVE. WE HAVE NOW WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH EACH PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION OVER ROUGHLY THE PAST DECADE TO REMOVE CRIMINAL OFFENDERS WHO ARE IN OUR COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AND WHO, ACCORDING TO OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, POSED A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND OR NATIONAL SECURITY. DURING THIS TIME, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND REMOVED HUNDREDS OF CRIMINAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM OUR COUNTY HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY. WE NEED TO NOT ALLOW OURSELVES TO BE DISTRACTED BY THOSE WHO FEIGN OUTRAGE BASED ON WHO WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES, WE MUST BE ALLOWED TO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS ALL OF OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION HAS UNDERSTOOD RELATED TO IMMIGRATION SINCE PRESIDENT CLINTON. AND RECOGNIZING THIS IS SIMPLY PUBLIC SAFETY 101. THIS RESOLUTION DEMONSTRATES THAT THIS COUNTY AND THIS COUNCIL TRULY STANDS WITH THE 76% OF MARYLANDERS, INCLUDING 65% OF DEMOCRATS, WHO WANT ENFORCEMENT OF OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS AND WHO TRULY CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK MR. ROBY TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WHERE THIS BILL STANDS CURRENTLY IN ANNAPOLIS. THANK YOU, SHERIFF, FOR THE RECORD, ERIC ROBY, DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS FOR THE HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, HB 1222 WAS PUT IN THIS SESSION. IT HAS PASSED THE MARYLAND HOUSE OF DELEGATES AND HAS MOVED OVER TO THE SENATE. SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE A BILL IN ANNAPOLIS TO GIVE YOU YOUR BILL LESSON, IT'S GOT TO PASS BOTH CHAMBERS. IT'S ALREADY PASSED THE HOUSE. IT'S CROSSED TO THE SENATE. IT'S HAD ITS HEARING IN THE SENATE LAST WEEK, AND WE'RE STILL WAITING TO SEE THE SENATE JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS COMMITTEE'S WHERE THE BILL, THE COMMITTEE THAT HEARD THE BILL AND HEARD

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ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GIORDANO? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DO HAVE. JUST THANK YOU FOR THE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN IT STARTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT CLINTON STARTED IT, OBAMA PUT IT IN FORCE. AND WE'VE BEEN I KNOW ON THIS COUNCIL I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT SINCE, SINCE THE BEGINNING. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, TOO, IS THAT MY GIRLFRIEND'S FROM SOUTH AMERICA.

SHE STRONGLY SUPPORTS THIS. SHE WAS WORRIED AFTER THE DEATH OF RACHEL MORAN. SHE DID NOT WANT TO GO OUT, DID NOT WANT TO GO ON THE TRAIL. I'VE HEARD HER TALK TO MANY PEOPLE, SPANISH PEOPLE, AND THEIR CONCERN IS TO COME HERE TO BE SAFE. YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY COMMITS A CRIME AFTER THAT, THAT YOU KNOW THAT, THAT THEY LOOK AT THEIR STATUS AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE. SO HER CONCERN, YOU HEAR THAT FROM HER? SHE TALKS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND I HEAR WHAT THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE COME HERE BECAUSE THEY THEY WANT TO FEEL SAFE. THEY WANT TO BE SAFE. SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE IT. I REACHED OUT TO YOU WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS, AND DEFINITELY I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING WORKING. SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND YES, YOU DID. AND YOU OFFERED ALL YOUR SUPPORT. AND YOU TOUCHED ON ONE THING IN THERE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, THAT THIS PROGRAM IN NO WAY REMOVES EVERYBODY THAT WE ENCOUNTER. IN FACT, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 35% ROUGHLY, THAT ICE DECIDES TO TAKE NO ACTION ON. SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VIOLATING OUR LAWS WHO ARE HAVE ALREADY ENTERED THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY OR OVERSTAYED A VISA OR DONE SOMETHING ELSE. AND STILL, ICE IS TAKING NO ACTION ON ROUGHLY 35%. SO THOSE PEOPLE, AGAIN, DON'T POSE A THREAT IN ISIS DETERMINATION TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND OR NATIONAL SECURITY. AND THEY ARE RELEASED ONCE LOCAL CHARGES ARE SATISFIED. MR. BENNETT, HELLO.

GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY PHONE CALL THIS PAST WEEKEND AND FOR TALKING WITH ME.

I'VE BEEN TAKING A LOT OF TIME TO LEARN ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST NOT SOMETHING I'VE EVEN EVER THOUGHT ABOUT BEFORE HEARING ABOUT THE RESOLUTION. AND I'VE GONE THROUGH AND I'VE READ AND LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY THAT WAS SHARED FOR THE BILL IN ANNAPOLIS. AND I HAD NOTICED THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT GROUPS AND AGENCIES THAT HAD SPOKEN IN FAVOR OF THE LEGISLATION THAT THE RESOLUTIONS AGAINST. AND I WAS HOPING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN I DO AS FAR AS THE WORLD OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, IF I COULD SHARE SOME OF THE QUOTES FROM THE AND POINTS FROM THE TESTIMONY OF THOSE GROUPS, AND IF MAYBE YOU COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THOSE QUOTES. SURE. SO JUST TO NAME SOME OF THE GROUPS FOR CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION PARTNERSHIP, THE MARYLAND CORRECTIONAL ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION, THE MARYLAND STATE BAR ASSOCIATION, THE MARYLAND OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER, AND THEN NOT NECESSARILY LAW ENFORCEMENT ADJACENT, BUT LOCAL JURISDICTION ADJACENT MAKE THE MARYLAND ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. SOME OF THE QUOTES THAT I'LL JUST DO ONE AT A TIME. BUT THIS SAYS THAT THE MAIN TASK OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IS PREVENTING, REDUCING AND INVESTIGATING VIOLENT CRIMES. SUCCESSFUL CRIME INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVE WITNESS

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IT'S NOT ALLOWED, AND A CORRECTIONAL DEPUTY CANNOT GO OUT AND GRAB A POLICE CAR AND RESPOND TO CALLS OR PULL PEOPLE OVER. THIS IS NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, PERIOD. THIS IS NOT PEOPLE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR ON CALLS BEING ASKED ABOUT THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS. THIS IS WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL, ANY INDIVIDUAL, IS ARRESTED FOR A VIOLATION OF LAW OR OR SENTENCED TO JAIL AND BOOKED INTO THE JAIL, THAT THEY ARE SCREENED. YOU ALSO HEAR THE ATTACKS, THAT IT'S DISCRIMINATORY. IT'S NOT DISCRIMINATORY. EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT IS ARRESTED IS SCREENED. MAN OR WOMAN, REGARDLESS OF YOUR DEMOGRAPHIC BACKGROUND, EVERY PERSON IS SCREENED JUST LIKE WE DO, TO SEE IF SOMEBODY WANTED IN PENNSYLVANIA OR IN DELAWARE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF STATE, OUT IN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION. WE GO THE EXTRA STEP THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP OF CHECKING TO SEE IF THE PERSON IS IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AND IF FOUND TO BE, THEN THAT IS REPORTED TO ICE. AND AGAIN, ICE MAKES THE DECISION BASED ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND NATIONAL SECURITY, WHETHER THAT PERSON IS GOING TO FACE DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT'S NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT THE FEAR IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S ALL SOMETHING TO SELL A FALSE NARRATIVE AGAINST THE BILL. I THINK HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY, WE'VE DONE TWO DIFFERENT SURVEYS TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALONG WITH OUR MUNICIPAL AGENCIES, HAVE OVERWHELMING PUBLIC SUPPORT, AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME TERRIBLE INCIDENTS WHERE WE'VE HAD MEMBERS OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY INVOLVED, ADVANCED GRANITE SHOOTING BEING ONE OF THEM, THE RACHEL MORAN CASE BEING ANOTHER ONE. I HAVE NEVER IN MY IN MY YEARS, TEN YEARS OF EIGHT YEARS WITH THE PROGRAM, TEN YEARS BEING SHERIFF, SEEN ANY DATA OR OR FACTUAL SUPPORT THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE AFRAID TO COME FORWARD AND REPORT THINGS TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT MEN AND WOMEN, IN FACT, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE A VICTIM OF A CRIME OR A WITNESS, THEY CAN ALSO APPLY FOR A US VISA, WHICH PROCESSES THROUGH OUR OFFICE, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO ACTUALLY STAY. AND MOST OF THE CRIMINALS, WHEN YOU HAVE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT LIKE WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, MOST OF THE CRIMINAL OFFENSES, WHEN YOU HAVE GANG MEMBERS WHO ARE WHO ARE HERE, WHO ARE ILLEGAL OR OTHER VIOLENT SORTS OF CRIME, USUALLY HAPPENS TO THAT IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE VICTIMIZED. SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A VISA. BUT IT'S LIKE YOU GAVE THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE AGGRESSOR AND THAT PERSON WOULD FACE DEPORTATION. THERE'D BE NO ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THE OTHER PERSON. THE CON, THE COUNTER TO THAT IS AND WHAT I FEAR IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF THIS BILL PASSES THAT ICE IS GOING TO COME IN, AS WE'VE SEEN IN ILLINOIS AND MASSACHUSETTS, AND ICE IS GOING TO COME IN AND START HITTING DOORS AND TAKING EVERYBODY INSTEAD OF BEING SELECTIVE AND JUST TAKING THE CRIMINALS IN A VERY SAFE ENVIRONMENT. WHEN SOMEBODY IS ALREADY BOOKED INTO A DETENTION CENTER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ARMED. YOU CAN SAFELY TRANSFER THEM TO ICE CUSTODY. I THINK ICE WILL COME IN. AND IT JUST HAPPENED THE OTHER DAY IN BOSTON, WHERE THEY CAME IN IN FORCE AND THEY STARTED KNOCKING, YOU KNOW, KNOCKING ON HOUSES.

AND EVERYBODY GOES, THOSE, THOSE WHO HAVEN'T WHO ARE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY BUT MAYBE HAVEN'T COMMITTED ANY OTHER OFFENSE. SO THAT QUICKLY ON ON I GUESS THAT WASN'T TOO QUICKLY

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COUNCILMAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THE HEARING. I WAS ACTUALLY AT THE HEARING IN ON THE HOUSE SIDE AND THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, AND YOU'D MENTIONED THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND THOSE GROUPS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE MARYLAND CORRECTIONAL ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION, THEIR POSITION WAS SUPPORT WITH AMENDMENTS. AND WHAT THEY WANTED WAS THEY WANTED THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HOLD INDIVIDUALS FOR 48 HOURS AFTER THEIR RELEASE DATE, SO THAT THEY COULD COOPERATE WITH IMMIGRATIONS AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT AND NOT HAVE ISSUES. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ISSUED AN OPINION A FEW MONTHS BACK, SAYING THAT THERE COULD BE ISSUES IF YOU HELD SOMEBODY PAST THEIR RELEASE DATE ON A DETAINER. THEY WANTED THAT PUT IN LAW, SO THAT'S WHY THEY WERE WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT, KNOWING FULL WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ONLY THREE AGENCIES AT THE TIME. THERE ARE ONLY THREE AGENCIES IN THE STATE THAT HAVE THE 287 PROGRAM. THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE THAT PORTION UP TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THOSE INMATES AND COOPERATE WITH ICE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT YOU SAW A CONTINGENCY OF SUPPORT FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ALL ON THIS LEGISLATION. I THINK YOU SAW THE EXACT OPPOSITE. THE MARYLAND SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION HAS TAKEN A POSITION OPPOSED TO THIS. WE HAD CHIEFS, CHIEFS OF POLICE THAT WERE WERE PERMITTED BY THEIR MAYORS AND COUNTY AND THEIR COUNTY EXECUTIVES COME DOWN AND TESTIFY OPPOSED TO THE LEGISLATION. SO I THINK THE I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S CAME INTO PLAY AND WHERE MAKO CAME INTO PLAY, BUT BUT AND THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATION, I'M NOT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM. LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION PARTNERSHIP. YEAH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM AT ALL. OH, IT'S RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT, I THINK. OKAY. FROM THE I THINK THIS WAS THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. THEY SAID SUCH AGREEMENTS REQUIRE STATE AND LOCAL AGENCIES TO USE THEIR OWN FUNDS TO CARRY OUT FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO CARRY OUT ITS OWN ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS WITHOUT MARYLAND DOING SO AND PAYING FOR IT THEMSELVES. AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ON MANPOWER PER YEAR TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM? IF YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE, I DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE. IT'S VERY THE COST IS MINUTE. IN FACT, ICE PAYS FOR EVERYTHING. THEY PAY FOR THE TRAINING. THE ONLY THING THEY DON'T PAY FOR IS THE ON DUTY TIME TO FACILITATE THE PROGRAM. THEY PAY FOR ALL THE TRAINING, ALL THE MATERIALS, THE COMPUTER. THEY RAN A T1. I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TERM T1 LINE INTO THE JAIL. SO THREE WEEKS OF TRAINING IS OUR BIGGEST COMMITMENT THAT WE SEND A DEPUTY DOWN THERE FOR THREE WEEKS TO TRAINING DOWN TO CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA, TO BE TRAINED AS A TO BE CERTIFIED AS A DEPUTY.

I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE TERM THEY USE UNDER THE FEDERAL CERTIFICATION, BUT BASICALLY SO THAT THEY CAN FULFILL SOME OF ICE FUNCTIONS ON THIS SCREENING PROCESS. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S AN ANCILLARY ASSIGNMENT WHEN THEY COME BACK. SO IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THE PROCESSING CENTER, THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO SECURITY. AND WE HAVE SOMEONE COME IN, THEN THEY GO DO THE SCREENING. IT'S A SMALL COMMITMENT OF THEIR WORKDAY BY DOING AWAY WITH IT.

WE DIDN'T NEED TO HIRE ANYBODY TO HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP. WE DON'T NEED TO TERMINATE. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TERMINATE ANYBODY IF WE DON'T HAVE IT. IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A COMMITMENT. THE VERSUS THE PUBLIC SAFETY VALUE OF MAKING SURE THAT ME AS SHERIFF AND THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY, THAT I DON'T HAVE TO OPEN THE JAIL DOORS TO SOMEONE THAT A FEDERAL PARTNER IS SAYING POSES A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR NATIONAL SECURITY. I, I EASILY JUSTIFY, YOU KNOW, ANY EXPENSE, BUT THE EXPENSE IS VERY MINUTE. I KNOW FREDERICK COUNTY HAD AN AUDIT A FEW YEARS BACK AND HE SPOKE ABOUT IT. IT WAS LESS THAN ONE, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS LESS, LESS THAN ONE TENTH OF 1% OF THE OF THE CORRECTIONS BUDGET IS WHAT HE DID. HE AGAIN, HE'S BEEN IN FOR 16 YEARS. LONGEST SERVING, LONGEST PROGRAM IN THE COUNTRY OPERATING. SO AGAIN, I THINK IN MY ROLE AS SHERIFF, THIS IS THERE ARE HARD DECISIONS EVERY DAY. SIGNING UP FOR THIS PROGRAM WASN'T ONE OF THEM. AND IT'S BEEN, I THINK, INVALUABLE TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND TWO LAST QUESTIONS. HOPEFULLY THIS ONE'S VERY QUICK. THE FIRST ONE IS MAYKO, IN THEIR TESTIMONY FOR THE LEGISLATION, SPOKE TO HOW THIS PROGRAM OPENS UP LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO INCREASE LIABILITY AS FAR AS LAWSUITS OR THE LIKE. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECENTLY GONE THROUGH THE HARDSHIP THAT CAN COME FROM THAT. IN YOUR EYES, WHAT WOULD BE THE INCREASED LIABILITY OR HOW COULD IT DECREASE LIABILITY TO NOT HAVE THE PROGRAM? AND THIS IS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH ICE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING THE PROGRAM THE WAY OUR DEPUTIES ARE WITH THE DEPUTIES WHO ARE TRAINED TO DO IT, WHICH ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT INTERACT, WE YOU KNOW, THEY THEY WOULD ASSUME THOSE SORTS OF LIABILITY. I THINK THAT GOES TO THE EXTENT IF WE TRY TO DO ICE'S JOB FOR THEM. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING ICE'S JOB FOR THEM. I AM INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH

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MISS ROBERT, GOOD EVENING. HOW ARE YOU DOING? WELL, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO START BY SAYING AYE. I AM MARRIED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, RETIRED 23 YEARS. AND SO MY QUESTION IS COMING FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AND FROM BEING IN THE COURT SYSTEM AND THEN DOING MY OWN RESEARCH ON 287 G. AND WHAT I'VE FOUND IS THAT IT'S NOT A MANDATORY PROGRAM FOR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT IT'S VOLUNTARY, AND THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES KIND OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM. BUT IT'S ALSO SAYING THAT EVEN IF AGENCIES AREN'T PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM, THEY CAN STILL COOPERATE WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES THROUGH OTHER MEANS, SUCH AS HONORING THE JUDICIAL WARRANTS, DETAINERS WITHOUT ANY FORMAL DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY FROM THE 287 AGREEMENTS PROVIDE. SO MY QUESTION IS, IF THE 287 G WAS NOT IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW, COULDN'T YOU STILL DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE DETENTION CENTER AS WHEN THEY COME IN, PROCESSING THEM AND FINDING OUT THE SAME INFORMATION WITHOUT NEEDING THE 287 G. I HAD THIS EXACT SAME QUESTION DURING THE SENATE. I TESTIFIED ON THE SENATE HEARING LAST WEEK, LAST WEEK, LAST WEEK, AND THE EXACT SAME QUESTION. NO, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE ICE DATABASES. SO IF SOMEONE HAD ENTERED ILLEGALLY AND OVERSTAYED A VISA, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND THAT OUT THROUGH A FINGERPRINT CHECK. BUT IF SOMEBODY HAD ENTERED THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AND WERE NEVER FINGERPRINTED, THEN WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHO WHO IS HERE ILLEGALLY. IT ALSO OPENS US UP TO THE LIABILITY I THINK GOES IT GOES IN CONTRADICTION. CONFLICT WITH THE GUIDANCE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT WE WOULD BE PERFORMING ISIS FUNCTION INSTEAD OF WORKING AS A PARTNER AGENCY WITH ICE BY

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NOW THAT WE'VE HAD A METHOD, WE KNOW THAT MORE THAN 1000 IN 8 YEARS HAVE COME THROUGH OUR DOORS, AND ICE HAS TAKEN ACTION ON MORE THAN 100. YOU HAVE THE NO, I DON'T, IT'S MORE THAN 100, 100, ALMOST 300 INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY HAVE EARMARKED FOR DEPORTATION. AGAIN SAYING THAT THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY OR NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT. SO YEAH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT. AND I THINK WE WOULD BE OPENING OURSELVES UP TO THE LIABILITY OF TRYING TO DO SOME JOB WITHOUT THE OVERSIGHT AND THE GUIDANCE, THE AUDITS THAT COME FROM BEING WITH ICE. WE, YOU KNOW, WE AGREE TO BE AUDITED EVERY THREE YEARS. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH TWO AUDITS AND WE'VE WE'VE DONE FINE, BUT THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING. AND WE I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ONE COMPLAINT FROM AN INMATE.

THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE EIGHT YEARS. I DON'T WANT TO JINX MYSELF, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ONE COMPLAINT. IT WOULD GO TO ICE TO BE INVESTIGATED BY ICE ABOUT ANY IMPROPRIETY WITH THE PROGRAM IN EIGHT YEARS. OKAY. AND I KNOW IF I CAN GIVE YOU JUST JUST ONE EXAMPLE AND THIS THIS IS A PUBLIC EXAMPLE. AND IT HAPPENED THREE WEEKS AGO IN CECIL COUNTY. THEY HAD AN INMATE THAT THEY ARRESTED ONCE THEY RAN THIS INMATE THROUGH THE 287 G PROGRAM, THEY REALIZED THAT THE INDIVIDUAL WAS IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. THROUGH FURTHER INVESTIGATION, THEY REALIZED THIS INDIVIDUAL HAD COMMITTED CRIMES IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. IN OTHER STATES, 11 DIFFERENT TIMES, 11 DIFFERENT CRIMES. SO THIS IS SOMEONE THAT HAD BEEN THROUGH THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, HAD BEEN BOOKED INTO DETENTION FACILITIES. BUT BECAUSE THOSE FACILITIES DIDN'T HAVE THE 287 G PROGRAM, THIS INDIVIDUAL NEVER CAME UP ON THE RADAR FOR IMMIGRATIONS AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S WHAT THE 287 G PROGRAM DOES. THIS INDIVIDUAL IS ALSO SOMEBODY THAT WAS CHARGED WITH SEXUAL TOUCHING OF A MINOR. THESE AREN'T PEOPLE WE WANT IN OUR COMMUNITIES. THESE THESE INDIVIDUALS, IF THEY WOULD GET ARRESTED IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY OR PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THEIR VERSION OF COOPERATION WITH IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, THEY'RE NEVER SCREENED THE WAY THAT THEY ARE IN CECIL COUNTY AND HARFORD COUNTY AND FREDERICK COUNTY. SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, IF THEY'RE NOT ON ICE'S RADAR, THEY'LL NEVER BE DETECTED. SO THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, AS I SAID, LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND SO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE IS ARRESTED. AND THE FEAR, I BELIEVE, OF WHAT'S GOING ON IS THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET PULLED OVER, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE. THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE A US CITIZEN. AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE US CITIZEN STATUS IS GOING TO BE INCARCERATED, HELD AND SENT TO IMMIGRATION? I THINK THAT IS LIKE THE BIGGEST QUESTION MARK THAT THE PUBLIC HAS. AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SO MUCH DISCUSSION AROUND THIS ISSUE. AND I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE THINGS IN PURSUING THIS AS A CANDIDATE AND AS AFTER I BECAME SHERIFF, I WANT THEM. I WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE CRIMINAL, ILLEGAL ALIENS TO FEAR COMING TO HARFORD COUNTY. I WANT THEM TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. I WANT THEM TO GO TO BALTIMORE CITY. I WANT THEM TO GO SOMEWHERE THAT WANTS TO ACCEPT MORE CRIME AND NOT BE HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY. YOU DON'T GET LOCKED UP FOR DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE. YOU GET A TICKET AND THEN YOU GO TO COURT. AND IF THE COURT SENTENCED YOU TO JAIL AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEN YOU MIGHT GET SCREENED IN, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET SCREENED IN FOR GETTING PULLED OVER WITHOUT A LICENSE. THE MARYLAND LEGISLATURE HAS MADE IT SO YOU CAN ARREST ON MANY OF THE SUSPENDED CHARGES DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED CHARGES. SO IT REALLY TAKES SOMETHING. AND I DON'T LIKE TO USE THE WORD MINOR. TAKE SOMETHING LIKE A DRIVING WHILE IMPAIRED. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST IN THIS COUNTRY EVERY YEAR TO IMPAIRED DRIVERS, BUT IT TAKES SOMETHING LIKE DRIVING WHILE IMPAIRED FOR YOU TO BE BOOKED, TAKEN TO THE JAIL, AND THEN THE COMMISSIONER SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU ON A BOND FOR SOME REASON. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE EVEN INTOXICATED DRIVERS, IMPAIRED DRIVERS ARE CUT LOOSE FROM THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE IF NOT FROM THE ROADSIDE. SO THEN YOU GET INTO THE TRUE CRIMINAL OFFENSES, THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SELLING DRUGS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WHERE THEY GET BOOKED IN AND ACTUALLY HELD. AND BUT I WILL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE DRIVING WHILE SUSPENDED GET EARMARKED FOR DEPORTATION, WHERE SOMEONE WITH A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MAYBE DOES NOT. AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT BASED ON WHAT THEIR LOCAL CHARGES IS. IT'S BASED ON WHAT ICE KNOWS ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL AND THOSE TWO PRIORITIES OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND NATIONAL SECURITY. AND I GIVE THE I GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO TOOK RACHEL MORAN'S LIFE.

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THE DATA FROM THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE PROGRAM. AND I CAN TELL YOU AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE BIGGEST COUNTRY FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE ENTERING ILLEGALLY OR HERE ILLEGALLY WAS GERMANY. THIS WAS 2022. THAT WAS THE 2020 COVID. BUT GERMANY WAS THE BIGGEST COUNTRY. YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY JUMP TO MEXICO OR EL SALVADOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WAS GERMANY AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. MISS ADAMS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. IN MY OPINION, WE'RE SEEING FAR TOO MANY HORRIFIC CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING BY ILLEGAL INDIVIDUALS. JUST IN MY DISTRICT ALONE, THE MURDER OF KAYLA, IT'S HORRIFIC. AND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO STOP THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS PROGRAM IS WHAT WE NEED, AND I FULLY SUPPORT IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK ANYONE ELSE WHILE WE WRAP THIS UP. SHERIFF, AS ALWAYS, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

APPRECIATE THE JOB THAT YOU AND YOUR MEN AND WOMEN AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DO FOR US EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. JORDAN. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 007 DASH 25. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 007 25. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION, MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT, I MRS. ROBERT NAY, MR. GIORDANO, I MR. RILEY I MRS. WILSON I MR. BENNETT. NO. THERE BEING FOUR VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, TWO IN THE NEGATIVE ONE VACANT RESOLUTION 007 25 IS HEREBY APPROVED. AND AS A REMINDER, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM TONIGHT, CITIZENS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO IT. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK. AGENDA NUMBER NINE, INTRODUCTION OF BILLS. WE HAVE NONE. TEN INTRODUCTION IN CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS. NONE. CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS. NONE 12. ENROLLMENT OF BILLS NONE 13. UNFINISHED BUSINESS WE HAVE NONE 14. NEW BUSINESS ALTERNATE HEARING

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AND THE TIMING OF THAT, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BECAUSE THE CONTRACT ENDS ON JUNE 30TH, WE COULD VOTE PRIOR TO JUNE 30TH WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JULY 1ST. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO FOR ALL OF THOSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOON COMING BEFORE YOU, THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL AND MR. KEHOE'S CONTRACTS. THAT WILL ALL BE DONE PROBABLY IN MAY WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF JULY 1ST.

WE'LL DO THE SAME THING WITH THIS NEXT YEAR. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON, MR. PRESIDENT, I MRS. ROBERT I MR. GIORDANO I MR. RILEY I MRS. SEIDEL I MR. BENNETT I THERE BEING SIX VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ONE VACANT THE ALTERNATE HEARING EXAMINER AGREEMENT FOR MR. PLITT IS HEREBY APPROVED. WE'RE GOING TO

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IT WAS VERY NICE. THEY HAD NICE PORTRAIT. IT WAS IT WAS REALLY NICE EVENT AND PRESENTED A PROCLAMATION THERE FOR THE ANNIVERSARY COMMITTEE. AND THEN THAT NEXT DAY, ON SUNDAY, I ATTENDED THE BUSH DECLARATION CELEBRATION DINNER, AND MY FRIEND AND I ENDED UP SITTING NEXT TO FOUR OF ROBERT E LEE'S RELATIVES, AND THEY WERE A HOOT, FOR THEY WERE FOUR SISTERS OUT OF 16. IT'S CRAZY, BUT IT WAS A REALLY NICE EVENT AND SO I WAS HAPPY TO BE THERE AND CELEBRATE WITH THEM. AND I LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DID I DO? I HAVE ATTENDED THE MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTIONS ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING, AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO STREAMLINE HOW THAT LOOKS FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION AS WELL AS CRISIS MANAGEMENT, PUTTING CASE MANAGERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TOGETHER TO KIND OF RESPOND TO CRISES. AND. I ATTENDED THE CHOSEN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WOMEN'S HISTORY AND RECOGNITION PROGRAM. THAT WAS VERY NICE, HONORING CHILDREN FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE TO A LEGACY. AND ON A SIDE NOTE, I ACTUALLY KNEW ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS AND DIDN'T REALIZE IT UNTIL AFTER SHE WAS GONE THAT I WORK WITH HER SISTER. SO I CONGRATULATED THAT MOTHER TODAY WHEN I SAW HER. SO. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH FOR ME, EXCEPT FOR I WILL SAY THAT ON A FUN NOTE, THE NAACP FREEDOM FIVE-K RACE REGISTRATION OPENED TODAY, AND WE DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET SCHOLARSHIP MONEY FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE. SO YOU CAN RUN, YOU CAN WALK. IT'LL BE AT THE MONPA TRAIL. AWESOME. THANK YOU, MR. GINGER. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ON MARCH 20TH, I ATTENDED THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES ANNUAL ANNUAL AWARD CEREMONY UP AT LEVEL FIRE HALL, ALONG WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTE, I'M SURE WILL MENTION SOME SPECIAL GUESTS THAT GOT SOME SPECIAL AWARDS THERE. SO WE HAD ON MARCH 22ND THE SIAB GALA, WHERE WE DONATED $25,000. WE DO THAT ANNUALLY EVERY YEAR. IT WAS HELD AT WATER'S EDGE. THEY DID A FABULOUS JOB AND I THINK THEY SURPRISED EVERYBODY WITH 20 MINUTES WORTH OF FIREWORKS. SO THAT WAS QUITE NICE. AND THEN ON MARCH 31ST, WE DID THE FIRST TONY TALK. WE HIGHLIGHTED LET GO. WELLNESS CENTER OFF OF GATEWAY DRIVE. THEY HAD THEIR ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. SO IF YOU VISIT MY COUNCILMAN FACEBOOK PAGE YOU WILL SEE OUR INTERVIEW WITH WITH BRENDA. SO THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR. GINGER. MR. RILEY. TONY TALK REALLY TOOK IT TO I WAS LIKE TONY TALK I HEARD. GEEZ. HEY HERE'S MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE RACHEL MORAN'S FAMILY AS THEY NAVIGATE THE TRIAL UP THE STREET. PLEASE PRAY FOR THE FAMILY AND HOPEFULLY SOME JUSTICE WILL COME. THANKS.

THANK YOU, MISS SALES. THANK YOU. LAST WEEK I ATTENDED THE ABERDEEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LUNCHEON AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT RON FILLING THE CHAMBER PRESIDENT WITH THE COUNCIL CITATION FOR HIS 75TH BIRTHDAY. HE HE DOES SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT WAS A PLEASURE. AND I HAVE BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD MEETINGS WITH CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUES WITHIN THE DISTRICT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERYONE'S INPUT AND FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SADDLES. MR. BENNETT.

HELLO. YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN RILEY, IF YOU'RE JEALOUS OF THE TONY TALKS, MAYBE YOU COULD DO THE GYM JAB. OR YOU COULD DO THE RILEY RAMBLE. YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO SAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE JEALOUS. I DON'T DO MUCH RAMBLING. I'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY MEETING WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND HIS STAFF, MEETING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING TO GO OVER ALL THE ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS AND DETAIL, MEETING WITH WATER AND SEWER TODAY. LATE LAST WEEK, I MET WITH THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE REGARDING THE UPCOMING BUDGET AND SHARED WITH HIM SOME OF MY PRIORITIES FOR DISTRICT F, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I MADE SURE TO EXPRESS TO HIM IS WHILE I VOTED NO ON THE PAST TWO BUDGETS, IT'S NOT MY GOAL TO VOTE NO ON A BUDGET. MY GOAL IS TO HAVE A BUDGET I CAN VOTE YES ON. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT WITH AMPLE COMMUNICATION AND WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN GET TO A POINT THIS YEAR WHERE THERE'S A BUDGET THAT I CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING MY NAME BEHIND. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH MY LOCAL VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES IN MY DISTRICT, ASKING THEM WHAT THEY

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WEDNESDAY, APRIL 23RD AT 9 A.M. THURSDAY, APRIL 24TH AT 9 A.M. MONDAY, APRIL 28TH AT 10 A.M.

AND TUESDAY, APRIL 29TH AT 9 A.M. ARE IN THIS CHAMBER. THEY'RE ALL WORK SESSIONS WITH ALL OF OUR COUNTY PARTNERS AND DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ALL OF OUR OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY BUDGET. ALSO, OUR BUDGET BUDGET, OUR PUBLIC, OUR BUDGET, PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE MAY 5TH OR EXCUSE ME, MAY 7TH AND THURSDAY, MAY 15TH AT 7 P.M. ALSO IN THESE CHAMBERS. WE ATTENDED THE HARFORD COUNTY CHAMBER ECONOMIC OUTLOOK BREAKFAST AT THE COUNTRY CLUB THIS PAST WEEK WITH THE ACTING SECRETARY FOR MARYLAND OF COMMERCE, HARRY COKER, DOCTOR DARIUS IRANI AND MISS KAREN HOLT, WHO SPOKE ABOUT ECONOMIC THEIR ECONOMIC FORECASTS FOR THE COUNTY AND THE STATE. WE ALSO ATTENDED THE ABERDEEN ROTARY BULL ROAST. IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT CROWD, HUGE CROWD. ALL OF THE MONIES THAT BENEFIT THAT ORGANIZATION GO OR RAISE THAT.

THAT ORGANIZATION BENEFIT THE NORTHERN CHESAPEAKE REGION, THE HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY SUMMER READING PROGRAM, AND THEN SCHOLARSHIPS ACROSS THE COUNTY THAT ALSO INCLUDE NEW SCHOLARSHIPS FOR HARFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE, FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE LOOKING TO GET INTO TRADES, ALSO ATTENDED THE ABERDEEN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LUNCHEON, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH COLONEL MILTON. WELL, HE'S A GARRISON COMMANDER AT APG. HE WILL BE COMING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE AND PRESENTATION BEFORE HE LEAVES APG VERY SOON. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT ON THE BOOKS. AND THEN ALSO MAJOR GENERALS SCHEDULED TO COME AS WELL. SO WE'RE TRYING TO LINE ALL THAT UP TODAY. AFTER THIS PAST WEEK, WE RECEIVED THE FORMAL NOTIFICATION FROM THE REPUBLICAN CENTRAL COMMITTEE THAT THE THREE NAMES THAT THEY PICKED ARE MR. RUSS ENGLISH, MR. JOSEPH XAVIER, AND MISS ALLISON INHOFE. COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED ALL THAT INFORMATION.

THEY'RE LINING UP INTERVIEWS AS WE SPEAK. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO AND INTERVIEW ALL THREE TODAY. AND I BELIEVE THAT MY IDEA OF MOVING FORWARD IS THAT WE WILL HAVE THEM INTERVIEWED BETWEEN NOW AND THE 15TH, HAVE THEM SIT WITH US ON THE NIGHT OF THE 15TH TO GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE ABOUT THEMSELVES. INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT FOR SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO BE APPOINTED TO REPRESENT A DISTRICT, THE CITIZENS SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO AND SEE THAT PERSON BEFORE THAT PERSON MOVES FORWARD. IF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, INDEED. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. ALSO, COUNCILMAN JOHN GIORDANO TALKED ABOUT THE DES AWARDS. BOTH OF MY GIRLS RECEIVED AWARDS THAT NIGHT, ONE FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND ONE FOR THEIR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. AND THEN FINALLY, JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYONE AND THANK THEM FOR THE ANNIVERSARY. WELL WISHES FOR JEANNIE AND I. YESTERDAY WE CELEBRATED OUR 50TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY AND JUST HAD A VERY NICE QUIET DAY WITH DINNER FINISHING AT ACAPELLAS.

SO IT WAS JUST A GREAT EVENING AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE

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