Nov 04, 2025 County Council

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EVENING. CHAIR CALLS TO ORDER THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION ZERO 1525 THROUGH RESOLUTION 033 25. TONIGHT, COUNCIL, IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO WELCOME JEN WILSON, CAITLIN LEE AND BILL AMOS TO PRESENT ON THE AG PRESERVATION PIECES. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ALSO WITH US TONIGHT WE HAVE SOME OF OUR LANDOWNERS WHO ARE COMING INTO THE PROGRAM THIS ROUND. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM WITH US AS WELL. A LOT OF SLIDES, MOSTLY TRYING TO GET SOME PICTURES SO YOU CAN SEE THESE PROPERTIES AND GET A LOOK AT THEM. SINCE MOST OF US WON'T EVER GET A CHANCE TO ENJOY THEM. SO I'LL TRY TO BREEZE THROUGH THEM. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I REALLY WANT TO SHOW YOU THOSE PICTURES. WE ALWAYS START WITH WHY DO WE PRESERVE? AND THE OVERARCHING IDEA IS THAT LAND PRESERVATION IS A MASTER LAND USE PLANNING TOOL. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO OUR MASTER PLAN TO SEE HOW WE WANT TO DEVELOP THE COUNTY. AND LAND PRESERVATION IS ONE OF THOSE TOOLS THAT WE USE TO GUIDE THE COUNTY FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. OUR PRESERVATION GOAL WAS LAST SET IN OUR 2016 MASTER PLAN OF 75,000 ACRES BY 2040. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 66,000 ACRES CURRENTLY PRESERVED. SO THAT'S PRIVATE LAND THAT IS PRESERVED. THAT DOESN'T COUNT PARKS. AS WE MOVE INTO OUR NEXT MASTER PLAN UPDATE IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER UPDATING OUR GOAL TO MEET THE STATE'S, WHICH IS 30% BY 2030, 40% BY 2040. SO THOSE WOULD THEN INCLUDE PARKLAND. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN ALSO WHY WE DO LAND PRESERVATION TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. SO LANDOWNERS ARE GETTING EQUITY FROM THIS PROGRAM OUT OF THEIR LAND WITHOUT SELLING FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE COUNTY ALSO HAS A CHANCE TO PUT A PERMANENT LIMIT IN ON SUBURBAN SPRAWL. WE KNOW ZONING CAN CHANGE. WE JUST WENT THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE REZONING. WE KNOW REGULATIONS AROUND DEVELOPMENT CAN CHANGE, BUT THESE EASEMENTS ARE IN PERPETUITY, SO THEY LAST FOREVER. AND THIS IS ALSO A COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO LIMIT THAT GROWING NEED FOR SERVICES LIKE FIRE, EMS, SCHOOLS, WATER AND SEWER, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT'S ALSO HOPING TO PROTECT AGRICULTURAL LAND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A LOCAL SUPPLY OF FOOD AND FIBER INTO THE FUTURE. I ALWAYS LIKE SHOWING THE CHART WITH THE TIMELINE. SINCE WE STARTED PRESERVATION, WE USE A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS AND WE'VE ADDED SEVERAL THROUGHOUT THE YEARS USING BOTH LOCAL, STATE, AND EVEN FEDERAL MONEY. THE BARS INDICATE HOW MUCH LAND HAS BEEN USED BY EACH PROGRAM, HOW MUCH IS PRESERVED, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PURPLE IS OUR COUNTY PROGRAM. BY FAR, THIS IS OUR MOST SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM IN TERMS OF ACRES. WELL OVER HALF OF OUR 66,000 ACRES HAS BEEN PRESERVED USING THE COUNTY PROGRAM. AND THEN ALSO THIS PROGRAM IS VERY DETAILED AND A BIT COMPLICATED, HAS A LOT OF MATH INVOLVED, AND WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY HUMAN BIAS OR CALCULATION ERRORS. SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO, ONE OF OUR NOW RETIRED PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF, MR. BRUCE JOHNSON, CREATED WHAT WE CALL ALVIN. IT'S AN AUTOMATED PROGRAM THAT WE USE TO DO MEASUREMENTS AND CALCULATIONS ON THESE PROPERTIES DOCUMENTS THE WHOLE PROCESS A LOT FASTER AND A LOT MORE ACCURATE THAN ME WITH PENCIL AND PAPER. WE GO THROUGH EACH APPLICATION WITH OUR RANKING, AND THIS IS ALL PART OF THE COUNTY CODE THAT WE UPDATED LAST YEAR WITH OUR RANKING CRITERIA. WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, THE QUALITY OF THE SOIL, AND EVEN THE QUALITY OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES ON SITE.

THINGS LIKE THE HABITAT OR MAJOR STREAMS THAT MIGHT BE ON OR NEAR THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF MATH FOR EACH ONE. I'VE INCLUDED THE DETAILS OF HOW EACH PROPERTY COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, HOW IT RANKED. THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT THE VALUE OF THE EASEMENT. THIS IS A BIT MORE COMPLICATED. WE DO THREE CALCULATIONS FOR EACH PROPERTY. IT'S ALWAYS THE LOWEST VALUE IS WHAT THE OFFER IS TO THE LANDOWNERS. IT'S BASED ON FIRST A FORMULA WHERE WE TAKE A POINT SYSTEM LOOKING AGAIN SIZE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, QUALITY OF THE SOILS. AND WE CONVERT THAT INTO A DOLLAR VALUE. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO MAXIMUMS IN PLACE CAP VALUES.

SO WE DON'T HAVE RUNAWAY NUMBERS. SO WE HAVE A MAXIMUM PER ACRE AND A MAXIMUM BASED ON THE LOTS THAT COULD BE CREATED. SO AGAIN IT'S ALWAYS THE LOWEST OF THOSE THREE. AND THEN LAST YEAR IN OUR UPDATE WE REDESIGNED OUR INCENTIVE AREAS OR WHAT WE CALL THE BONUS AREAS.

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IN CASE ONCE THE LANDOWNERS DO THE SURVEYS THEY COME BACK WITH MORE LAND. WE DON'T WANT TO BE BACK OVER HERE IN A MONTH OR TWO BECAUSE WE UNDERESTIMATED HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEEDED. SO THERE IS A CUSHION TO THOSE PRICES AND THOSE NUMBERS IN THE RESOLUTIONS. BUT THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT THE LANDOWNER SAW. SO UP FIRST IS THE BAUER PROPERTY. THIS IS IN FOREST HILL, KIND OF BETWEEN ROCK SPRING AND JARRETTSVILLE ON EAST WEST HIGHWAY THERE, AND 57 ACRES FOR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW HOW GORGEOUS IT WAS UNTIL YOU DROVE BACK THEIR DRIVEWAY. THIS ONE IS ELIGIBLE FOR TWO DIFFERENT BONUS AREAS. THEY ONLY GET CREDIT FOR ONE. AND AND HERE WE USE THE FORMULA VALUE. UP NEXT IS THE BERKHEIMER FARM. THIS IS JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY OF ABERDEEN. THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN A PRESERVATION DISTRICT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THAT'S A TEMPORARY FORM OF PRESERVATION.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THE BERKHEIMER FAMILY HAS CHOSEN TO MOVE INTO A PERMANENT PRESERVATION EASEMENT. THIS IS 113 ACRES WITH TEN DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. AND AGAIN, RIGHT ON THE DOORSTEP OF THE CITY OF ABERDEEN. SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FARM AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT COME IN AGAIN. IT'S IN THAT MOST AT RISK ONE MILE BUFFER AREA WITH THE BONUS AREA.

UP. NEXT WE HEAD TOWARDS WHITEFORD WITH WENDY BURNS AND STEVEN GRAYBILL. THIS IS A 20 ACRE PROPERTY WITH ONE EXTRA DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ON COOPER ROAD. THIS IS A PROPERTY WITH A LOT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON INCREASING THE FOREST AND PROVIDING SOME GREAT HABITAT AND NATURAL RESOURCE OUT THERE. SO THIS PROPERTY IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE IT HITS THE DEVELOPMENT RATE CAP. SO BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAD ONE EXTRA DEVELOPMENT RATE. WE HAD BACK SOUTH OF BEL AIR IN DISTRICT F TO DANNY FLAX FARM ON NOVA SCOTIA ROAD. THIS IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE STONEY DEMONSTRATION FOREST. SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO PRESERVE SOME LAND ADJACENT TO THAT STATE FOREST AND PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION TO THAT 39 ACRES WITH TWO EXTRA DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FLOWER FARM. AND AGAIN, DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT CAP. AND IT'S IN THAT ONE MILE BUFFER FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. AND BACK NORTH IN WHITEHALL TO THE KEARNS FAMILY. THIS IS ADJACENT TO A DIFFERENT STATE PARK. THIS IS NEXT TO THE HIDDEN VALLEY AREA OF ROCK STATE PARK ON KOREA ROAD, 17 ACRES. THIS ONE

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NEXT, BACK TO BEL AIR IN DISTRICT E AT THE LOMAX PROPERTY. THIS IS ON CALVARY ROAD JUST NORTH OF SCHUCKS ROAD, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. WE BROUGHT IN TO THE PROGRAM LAST YEAR, SO IT'S ABOUT 20 ACRES, ONE EXTRA DEVELOPMENT RATE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE IN THAT ONE MILE BUFFER FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO TO SEE THESE LANDS COMING IN.

I'M HEADED BACK NORTH TO JARRETTSVILLE MADONNA AREA TO THE LOMBARDO FARM. THIS IS A 30 ACRE HORSE FARM WITH TWO EXTRA DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON MADONNA ROAD. THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF STREAMS AND IT'S JUST OUTSIDE OUR PRIORITY PRESERVATION AREA, AND IT'S NEXT TO SOME RR ZONING, SO THEY HAVE A BONUS AREA THERE AND THEY ARE HITTING THE FORMULA VALUE. AND NEXT THIS IS IN THE JOPPA AREA, DISTRICT B, THE NIELSEN FARM. THIS IS A LOVELY HORSE FARM, 38 ACRES TWO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE COME IN. AND IT'S ON CLAYTON ROAD. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, MORE RURAL AREA THAT EVERYBODY KIND OF FORGETS ABOUT AS BEING RURAL. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL ENCOURAGE SOME OTHER NEIGHBORS TO CONSIDER PRESERVATION. IT'S WITHIN THAT ONE MILE BUFFER. SO AGAIN, A BONUS THERE. AND IT'S USING THE DEVELOPMENT RATE CAP. BACK UP TO WHITEHALL AT THE PARKS PROPERTY. THIS IS A 12 ACRE WOODED PROPERTY WITH ONE EXTRA DEVELOPMENT RIGHT. IT'S ADJACENT TO SEVERAL OTHER PRESERVED PROPERTIES THERE. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO BE EXPANDING THAT PRESERVE BLOCK OF LAND.

THERE'S A LARGER BLOCK OF FOREST THERE, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO PROTECT THAT FOR WATER QUALITY VALUES. THIS ONE USES THE FORMULA VALUE. THEN WE HEAD OVER TO DARLINGTON. THIS IS THE PATRICK FARM ON PATRICK ROAD, 32 ACRES FOR DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. WE HAVE A LOVELY FARM THERE WITH A MARKET. THIS IS THE PER ACRE CAP AND THIS IS IN AN AREA OF OF THE COUNTY AND THAT KIND OF BROAD CREEK AREA. WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE PRESERVATION HAPPEN. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THEM COME IN. NOW BACK TO WHITEHALL. THIS IS JUST NOT JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THE PARKS PROPERTY.

THIS IS THE PURDUE FARM, 88 ACRES, FIVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, BEAUTIFUL FARM, REALLY PRODUCTIVE CROP FIELDS OUT THERE. AND HERE AGAIN, WE'RE USING THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS CAP BUT ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL FARM. AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY OTHER PRESERVED LAND. AND NEXT WE'RE BACK TO THAT ABERDEEN AREA CHURCHVILLE ABERDEEN DISTRICT E IT'S NORTH STEPHANIE ROAD WITH A SCARBOROUGH FAMILY. THEY ALSO HAVE SOME ROAD FRONTAGE THERE ON 22. SO WE'RE WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THEM CHOOSE PRESERVATION INSTEAD OF DEVELOPMENT. 150 ACRES, 14 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND OVER A MILE OF STREAMS. WHEN WE MEASURED ALL THE TRIBUTARIES IN THE FOREST THERE. SO REALLY IMPORTANT PROPERTY FOR WATER QUALITY AND FOR EGG PRODUCTION.

THIS ALSO IS IN THE BONUS AREA. IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO SOME NON AG ZONING. SO GLAD TO SEE THEM COME IN. AND WE'RE USING THE PER ACRE CAP. NEXT WE'RE IN DARLINGTON WITH THE SHIVERS FAMILY ON POOL ROAD. THIS IS 55 ACRES WITH FIVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. THEY'RE A BIT OF A HOLE IN A DONUT THERE. THEY'RE SURROUNDED COMPLETELY BY PRESERVATION EASEMENTS. SO WE'RE GLAD TO COMPLETE THAT. DARLINGTON HAS OUR LARGEST BLOCK OF PRESERVED ACRES THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS, SO WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO ADD TO THAT. AGAIN, BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY, VERY PRODUCTIVE SOILS. NEXT IS THE SMUCKER FARM. THIS ONE IS VERY UNIQUE. THEIR FARM IS ACTUALLY CUT IN HALF BY THE MASON-DIXON LINE. SO HALF OF IT IS IN PENNSYLVANIA AND HALF OF IT IS IN MARYLAND. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE ONLY PUTTING AN EASEMENT ON THE MARYLAND HALF. IT'S 21 ACRES WITH ONE EXTRA DEVELOPMENT RATE. AND THIS IS AN AMISH FAMILY. SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL AMISH FAMILIES MOVE INTO THE COUNTY. THEY'VE PURCHASED FARMS THAT ARE ALREADY PRESERVED. SO THEY'RE NOT THIS IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT TO THE AMISH COMMUNITY, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE WORKED WITH AN AMISH FAMILY TO BRING IN A NEW EASEMENT, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED

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THIS WAS OUR HIGHEST RANKING FARM BECAUSE THEIR SOIL PRODUCTIVITY WAS WAS SO HIGH.

AND THIS IS USING THE PER ACRE CAP. WE HEAD BACK TO WHITEHALL. THIS IS HARFORD CREAMERY ROAD, DONNA TOOLS HORSE FARM, 60 ACRES FIVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, TWO FAMILY CONVEYANCES. AGAIN, NOT AS MANY FAMILY CONVEYANCES AS WE HAVE OWNERS SELLING THEIR PROPERTIES. AND WE'RE BASICALLY SEEING THOSE FAMILY CONVEYANCES GO AWAY. BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY. THE PICTURES DON'T DO IT JUSTICE. AND WE HAVE THE LOTS OF PRESERVED LAND IN THAT AREA, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THEM COME IN. AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE WHITE PROPERTY BACK IN THE BROAD CREEK AREA OF THE COUNTY ON PADDOCK ROAD, 33 ACRES, TWO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. IT'S MAINLY A WOODED PROPERTY JUST OUTSIDE OF THE VICINITY. MAP. IT'S JUST UPHILL FROM BROAD CREEK WHERE THE BOAT LAUNCH IS, AND THE CABINS ARE THERE ON FLINTVILLE ROAD AND JUST A STONE'S THROW AWAY FROM THE SUSQUEHANNA. SO VERY HAPPY TO PRESERVE THOSE WOODS. AND THEY HAVE A SMALL OPERATION UP FRONT FOR THE AG OPERATION. SO THAT WAS A VERY QUICK NUTSHELL OF ALL THE PROPERTIES. SO I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME, AND ALSO FOR MEETING WITH ME OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GO OVER THE REALLY NUTS AND BOLTS AND DETAILS, AND I WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT IN JANUARY WE'LL BE HAVING SOME PRESERVATION SEMINARS FOR LANDOWNERS. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SPREAD THEM AROUND THE COUNTY, TRY TO DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO PRESERVATION OPTIONS, AND HOPEFULLY DRUM UP SOME MORE INTEREST FOR THE NEXT ROUND.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, JEN. AND AS ALWAYS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME TO COME VISIT NOT ONLY WITH MYSELF, BUT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO JUST A QUICK RECAP. 8.9 MILLION THOUSAND ACRES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 8.9. SO IT'S AN ADDITIONAL 1000 ACRES. ADDITIONAL THOUSAND ACRES OKAY. BILL, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? CAITLIN. COUNCIL. TONY. JEN, THANKS A LOT. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE. ENVELOPE. IT'S $3,000 AN ACRE ACRE. BUT WITHIN ONE MILE IT'S 4000. IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE INTO THE PROGRAM AND OFFERING A LITTLE BIT MORE? YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF CREATE THAT BUFFER AND HOLD THE LINE ON THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE AND REALLY ENCOURAGE THEM. WHAT WAS IT BEFORE WE UPDATED THIS? PREVIOUSLY, THERE WERE TWO CIRCLES ON THE MAP. NO DOLLAR AMOUNT, OH DOLLAR AMOUNT, $1,000. SO IT WAS $1,000. YEAH OKAY. NOW THAT NOW IT'S KIND OF.

SO IT'S 1000 FOR BOTH. WE INCREASED IT TO 3004 THOUSAND LAST YEAR. IT WAS 1000 LESS FOR THOSE TWO AREAS. BUT I WAS THINKING PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY. SO LAST YEAR WAS 4005 THOUSAND 2000 OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHAT MADE IT GO UP A THOUSAND. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP PACE WITH THE MARKET OKAY. YEAH. SO WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE NEXT YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT'S GOING TO GO UP OR NOT I GOT YOU. IT'S GOING TO SEE WHAT THE MARKET'S DOING. HOW MANY HOW MANY FARMS DO YOU HAVE IN THE QUEUE ALREADY FOR NEXT GO ROUND. WE HAVE ABOUT TEN

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SO WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO. AND SO YOU YOURSELF AND WHO ELSE IS HELPING YOU OKAY. IT'S JUST US. SO I SEE MR. AMOS OVER THERE. IS HE IS HE NOT HELPING AT ALL. WELL HE'S RETIRED, SO I UNDERSTAND HE'S RETIRED, BUT HIS VOICE HOLDS A LOT OF WEIGHT. WHAT? A LOT OF FARMERS. I WONDER IF HE GOES OUT AND HE TALKS TO THEM. I'M SURE HE MUST STILL DO THAT.

AND WE ASK HIM TO DO THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WELL, I'M GOING TO ASK HIM TO DO THAT TOO.

SO SO THANK YOU. SPEAKING OF THE PROPERTIES, LIKE HE JUST MENTIONED HOW MANY YOU HAVE IN THE QUEUE, WHAT'S THE BALANCE IN THE FUND THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE? OH, I GOT THAT INFORMATION THE OTHER DAY AND I FORGOT. YEAH I FORGET WHAT IT IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

ROBBIE, WHAT IS IT YOU WOULD KNOW? STEP ON UP, YOUNG MAN. YOU BROUGHT ME THAT INFORMATION THE OTHER DAY, I FORGOT IT. I KNOW YOU DID. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL FROM THE DEDICATED HALF OF THE TRANSFER TAX. SO AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2025, THE FUND BALANCE IN THAT FUND WAS ABOUT $40 MILLION. NOW ABOUT 24 OF IT IS IN STRIPS THAT ARE FOR IPA ARRANGEMENTS. SO ALL OF THESE DEALS ARE ALL CASH DEALS. BUT IN THE PAST WE WOULD DO THESE INSTALLMENT DEALS AND WE WOULD WE WOULD PURCHASE TREASURY STRIPS FOR THE BALLOON PAYMENTS. SO THERE'S ABOUT 15 MILLION OR SO OF KIND OF AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF THESE AG PRICE EXPENDITURES. THANK YOU ROBBIE. ARE MOST PEOPLE TAKING DIRECT PAYMENTS. ARE THEY ARE THEY SPLIT IN HALF? IN HALF. WHAT'S THE CENSUS RIGHT NOW? MOST PEOPLE TAKE THE LUMP SUM.

LUMP SUM OKAY. YEAH. ESPECIALLY NOW WITH INTEREST RATES GOING DOWN. THERE WAS PROBABLY TALK THAT MAYBE WHEN THE INTEREST RATES WERE STARTING TO GO UP, THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT GO BACK TO THE IPAS, BUT THE INTEREST RATE THAT IS DETERMINED THAT THAT THEY GET OVER THAT COURSE OF THAT TEN YEARS OR WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS, IS BASED ON WHATEVER THE TREASURY STRIP RATE IS. SO NOW THAT THEY'RE KIND OF COMING BACK KIND OF IN THAT BELOW FOUR AREA, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE IT'S NOT AS ATTRACTIVE AS GETTING THAT MONEY UP FRONT. AND THEN YOU CAN INVEST IT IN WHATEVER YOU YOU WISH TO. MR. BENNETT, HELLO, ROBBIE. THIS ISN'T A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO GO AWAY, BUT JUST DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO SPEAK IN RESPONSE.

BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE COULD GO BACK TO RESOLUTION 27 DASH 25. YOU WERE SPEAKING SOME TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE FILLING THE DONUT HOLE AND CONTIGUOUS LAND. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I OFTEN GET QUESTIONS ABOUT FROM JUST THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHO MAYBE ISN'T AS INFORMED ON THE ON THE PRACTICE OF AG PRESERVATION. WHAT'S THE VALUE OF FILLING THAT EMPTY SPACE, AND WHAT'S THAT VALUE IN PRESERVING BEYOND THE BUFFER? YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE'VE ALREADY CREATED THAT WALL, SO TO SPEAK, BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY AT LARGE. YOU KNOW, WHAT? WHAT IS THE VALUE IN PRESERVING THOSE SPACES THAT ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN OTHER PRESERVED SPACES OR BEYOND OTHER PRESERVED SPACES? WELL, IDEALLY WE WANT LARGE BLOCKS OF PRESERVED LAND. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR FARMERS TO FARM IF THEY CAN GO NEXT DOOR AND NOT ACROSS TOWN WITH A LARGE COMBINE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING THAT CAPACITY, AND THOSE CONTIGUOUS ACRES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THAT. SO HAVING THOSE LARGE BLOCKS OF LAND ARE VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT. AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THINGS LIKE SOIL QUALITY. YES, YES. AND THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS VERY PRODUCTIVE SOILS. SO KEEPING OUR BEST SOILS FOR FARMING AND NOT FOR COMMERCIAL OR HOUSES IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE AFTER, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUTSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT ENVELOPE, IT COULD TURN INTO RURAL RESIDENTIAL OR AND THEN WE COULD HAVE LARGE RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND NO MORE CROP PRODUCTION. SO I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD TO TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING I OFTEN GET QUESTIONED. WHY ARE WE PRESERVING THESE SPACES SURROUNDED BY PRESERVED SPACES, AND THEY ARE OFTEN HIGHLY DESIRABLE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, SO THEY ARE EVEN MORE AT RISK SOMETIMES BECAUSE EVERYTHING AROUND THEM IS PRESERVED. THANK YOU, MISS IMHOFF. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW THE AMISH FARM. HOW DID THEY COME TO THIS PROGRAM? THERE IT WAS ACTUALLY. THEIR FATHER HAD BOUGHT THE FARM AND THEY WERE JUST LOOKING TO TO GET SOME MONEY OUT OF IT AND NOT DEVELOP IT, YOU KNOW. SO IT'S IT IS A PROGRAM THAT IS USED IN OTHER COUNTIES WITH AMISH, BUT THEY DON'T SEE THAT THEY WORK WITH THE GOVERNMENT.

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NOT NOT SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE GOING INTO PRESERVATION, BUT THAT THEY'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH US. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE THREE THIS EVENING. KRISTIN KIRKWOOD, FOLLOWED BY BILL AMOS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. HI, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KRISTEN KIRKWOOD AND I RESIDE AT TWO 603 BRANDENBURG ROAD IN WHITEHALL. I OFFER MY COMMENTS TONIGHT AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HARFORD LAND TRUST, WHICH IS HARFORD'S ONLY COUNTY WIDE NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO LAND PRESERVATION.

HARFORD LAND TRUST STRONGLY SUPPORTS THE AGRICULTURAL PRESERVATION BILLS PRESENTED TONIGHT. WE THANK THE LANDOWNERS FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO PRESERVE TO PERMANENT LAND CONSERVATION IN THE FUTURE OF HARFORD COUNTY. WE ALSO SINCERELY APPRECIATE THE STRONG SUPPORT FOR LAND PRESERVATION SHOWN BY THIS COUNCIL. TODAY WE HAVE ABOUT 100,000 HOUSEHOLDS FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN HARFORD COUNTY, BUT WE ARE PROJECTED TO ADD ANOTHER 15,000 HOUSEHOLDS BY 2045. PRESSURES ARE ALSO INTENSIFYING FOR OTHER USES. SOLAR FIELDS, DATA CENTERS, WAREHOUSES, TRANSMISSION CORRIDORS AND ON AND ON. WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SPRAWL TO MEET EVERY DEVELOPMENT NEED UNTIL EVERY LAST PIECE OF UNPROTECTED LAND IS GONE. THIS IS HOW WE KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE THAT IS HARFORD COUNTY. LAND PRESERVATION AND OPEN SPACE IS NOT A LUXURY. IT TRANSLATES TO REAL DOLLARS TO. IN ADDITION TO THE NEARLY $1 BILLION IN ANNUAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY CREATED FROM HARFORD COUNTY AGRICULTURE, FORESTRY AND RELATED BUSINESSES, LAND PRESERVATION CREATES A HOST OF OTHER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND QUALITY OF LIFE BENEFITS. THE BILLS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WILL ERASE A COMBINED 82 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON LARGE LOTS. AND TO ALSO ADD TO JEN'S COMMENTS TO COUNCILMAN BENNETT'S QUESTION, THIS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN OF THE HAPHAZARD EXTENSION OF PUBLIC SERVICES AND COSTLY PUBLIC WORKS IMPROVEMENTS. IN AN ERA WHERE DIVISION IS OFTEN MORE VISIBLE THAN COMMON GROUND, HARFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY SUPPORT LAND PRESERVATION AND SMART GROWTH. THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF HARFORD COUNTY, THE WORKING LANDS THAT SUSTAIN US, OUR BELOVED PUBLIC OPEN SPACES AND THE RURAL LANDSCAPES THAT ANCHOR OUR TRADITIONS. THESE ARE TREASURES THAT TRANSCEND POLITICS AND RESONATE WITH ANYONE WHO CALLS HARFORD COUNTY HOME. ONCE THE LAND IS GONE, WE CAN'T GET IT BACK. WITH EVERY ACRE OF LAND LOST TO DEVELOPMENT, WE WIPE OUT FAMILY FARMS, DESTROY VALUABLE WILDLIFE HABITATS, AND ROB FUTURE GENERATIONS OF ACCESS TO NATURE. INCLOSING HARFORD LAND TRUST ENCOURAGES THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE PRESERVING THE FARMS AND FORESTS, AS IT IS ONE OF THE BEST INVESTMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE IN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE FUTURE OF HARFORD COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU KRISTEN. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS BILL AMOS AND I LIVE AT 2031 OAKMONT ROAD, FALLSTON, MARYLAND. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SUPPORT ALL 19 FARMS. I AM HERE REPRESENTING OUR AGRICULTURAL LAND PRESERVATION ADVISORY BOARD. AS A MEMBER OF THAT, WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF REVIEWING ALL THE APPLICATIONS, PARTICIPATING IN THE RANKING AND THE PRICING, AND REALLY WANT TO SHOW IT'S A TREMENDOUS GROUP OF FARMS THAT ARE COMING IN. AND JUST LIKE JEN SAID, IT'S SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. IT'S NICE TO SEE THE UPDATED LEGISLATION IS REALLY WORKING. THANK YOU. COUNTY PAT AND COUNTY COUNCIL FOR UPDATING THAT. AND WE WE DID NEED THAT. AND IT CERTAINLY IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND SUPPORTING IT TONIGHT. AND ALL OF OUR FIVE MEMBERS REALLY SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR MARY MCCAULEY. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MARY SCARBOROUGH MCCAULEY. I AM MY RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS IS 16625 BOWMAN SCHOOL ROAD IN NEW FREEDOM, PENNSYLVANIA. I AM THE DAUGHTER OF JOHN AND MARGARET SCARBOROUGH. I'M HERE THIS EVENING WITH MY MOM, MARGARET, MY SISTER, SUZANNE STAUFFER, AND MY BROTHER JOHN SCARBOROUGH. FIRST, WE WANT TO THANK JEN WILSON AND BILL AMOS AND JEFF HOLLOWAY FOR ANSWERING OUR MANY QUESTIONS. OVER THE YEARS. WE'VE DELIBERATED ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME ON WHETHER TO ENROLL OR NOT. AND AFTER, DESPITE RECEIVING A TON, A TON OF SOLAR COMPANY MAILINGS, EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, OUTRAGEOUS OFFERS, WE DECIDED TO PRESERVE OUR FARMLAND AND TO BENEFIT OUR FAMILY, COMMUNITY, COUNTY AND STATE. WE FEEL THE AG COMMUNITY

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I'M IN. ANY MORE SPEAKERS? THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS. ALL RIGHT. WITH NO MORE SPEAKERS.

THIS WILL CONCLUDE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON AG PRESERVATION RESOLUTION ZERO 1525 ZERO 3325.

[t. Bill 25-013 (Zoning - Outdoor Dining Moratorium Extension)]

ANYONE ELSE? MR. BENNETT, COUNCIL PRESIDENT I KNOW WHEN WE WORKED ON THIS BILL A YEAR AGO FOR THE LAST TEMPORARY EXTENSION, PART OF THE CONVERSATION AT THAT TIME WAS WE WERE LOOKING TOWARDS A PERMANENT SOLUTION. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, HAS ANYTHING COME TOGETHER IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS TOWARDS THAT, OR ARE WE STILL KIND OF IN THE SAME PLACE WE WERE A YEAR AGO? I THINK WE'RE IN THE SAME PLACE THAT WE WERE IN. YOU COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN ME. I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE HEAVY LIFT THAT WILL HAVE TO COME FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND OTHERS INVOLVED. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DONE FIVE YEARS AGO BY THE, YOU KNOW, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THIS OVER. IT'S IT'S A LOT OF CODE SECTIONS THAT ARE TOUCHED.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THERE'LL BE A BILL PREPARED OR DRAFTED. I'M HAPPY TO HELP WITH THAT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. SO I CAN'T I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE ADMINISTRATION'S POSITION ON THAT AND WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IT OR SENDING SOMETHING OVER. BUT I THINK THAT'S HOPEFULLY THE GOAL AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. IT'LL BE PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS.

YOU'LL HAVE THE ULTIMATE SAY, YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE BECAUSE I JUST THINK FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY AND FOR FUTURE PLANNING, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO JUST SAY THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, BECAUSE WE NO LONGER HAVE A PANDEMIC AS AN EXCUSE FOR TEMPORARY ACTION.

IT'S JUST NOW THE NORM. SO I THINK CODIFYING THAT AND JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, OUTDOOR DINING IS A ACCEPTED PRACTICE AND THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY RATHER THAN EACH YEAR JUST HAVING THIS BE ANOTHER THING WE DO ONCE A YEAR. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. ANYONE ELSE? MR. RILEY? MR. LEGGIT, WHY COULDN'T WE DO IT AS A COUNCIL? WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT? IT'S IT'S IT'S THE COUNTY'S ZONING CODE. IT'S ALL IT'S IT'S THEIR CODE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ENFORCE IT, RIGHT? WE HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT POWERS WHATSOEVER. SO IF THERE'S THERE'S SO MANY SECTIONS THAT ARE TOUCHED AND IF THERE'S A VIOLATION, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES ENFORCING THAT. SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS LEGALLY WE CAN'T. BUT CERTAINLY I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A VERY BIG PART

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MY NAME IS DANIEL WILLIAMS. I LIVE AT 3608 ROXBURY ROAD. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I AM A CO-OWNER OF DOUBLE GROOVE, ALONG WITH KYLE. AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF EXTENDING THIS BILL FOR OUTDOOR SEATING. IT'S BECOME ESSENTIAL FOR OUR BUSINESSES, OUR BUSINESS, AND OTHER BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THEY GENERALLY CUSTOMERS GENERALLY APPRECIATE AND ALMOST EXPECT US TO HAVE THE OUTDOOR SPACE. AS KYLE MENTIONED, WE OPENED VERY SHORTLY BEFORE COVID AND OUR CUSTOMERS DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO NOT HAVE THIS AT OUR BREWERY. IF THIS WERE TO NOT GO THROUGH, THEY WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CAN'T GO OUTSIDE, CAN'T GO TO THE FOOD TRUCK THAT WE HAVE, CAN'T SUPPORT THAT LOCAL FOOD TRUCK, YOU KNOW, SO IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR BUSINESS.

AND I THINK TO OTHERS WHO HAVE THIS IN THE COUNTY AND LIKE I MENTIONED, NOT ONLY HELPS US, SUPPORTS EVERYBODY ELSE RIGHT NOW, THINGS ARE KIND OF UNCERTAIN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES KEEP RUNNING THE WAY THAT THEY ARE, THE WAY CUSTOMERS WHO SUPPORT THESE LOCAL BUSINESSES. IS BENEFICIAL. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT AFTER WITH THE EXTENSION THIS YEAR, WE CAN WORK TOWARDS NEXT YEAR. HAVING THIS A PERMANENT FIXTURE AT OUR BUSINESS AND OTHER BUSINESSES LOCALLY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, JEFFREY BECK. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING. I'M JEFFREY BECK, RESIDING AT 102 SHELL ROAD, JOPPATOWNE, MARYLAND, HERE IN FAVOR OF BILL 25 OH 13. YOU GUYS ACTUALLY ALREADY ADDRESSED MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, THAT WE STARTED THIS BACK DURING THE PANDEMIC TO HELP OUR BUSINESSES KEEP THEM AFLOAT, FOSTER THAT ECONOMIC ACTIVITY THAT WE NEEDED. BACK IN 23, WE PASSED 23 OVER 30, AND IN 24 WE PASSED 24 OVER 26. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO PASS 25 OVER 13. AND I SUPPORTED ALL THREE OF THEM. THE ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD THAT MISS KIND OF ANSWERED WAS THEY ALL MENTIONED DIRECT LANGUAGE ALLOWS ALLOW MORE TIME TO STUDY AND ANALYZE WHAT, IF ANY, MODIFICATIONS TO THE CODE SHOULD BE MADE PERMANENT. I THINK THEY ALL SHOULD. SOUNDS LIKE MOST PEOPLE AROUND HERE DO. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAVEN'T, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT. BUT WHAT WHAT'S THE STATUS OF ANY STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE? WHO'S BEEN CONDUCTING IT? LIKE I SAID, CLEARLY WE'RE ALL ALL SEEM TO BE PRETTY MUCH IN FAVOR OF MAKING IT PERMANENT.

SO LET'S LET'S HOP TO IT, WHOEVER IT NEEDS TO BE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE?

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[u. Bill 25-014 (Approval of Multi-Year Fleet Service Agreement)]

THE CONTRACT, 25 045, IS FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE SERVICES THAT SUPPORTS HARFORD COUNTY.

HARFORD COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE, HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY, HARFORD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND HARFORD TRANSIT LINK. THIS IS ESSENTIAL TO SAFEGUARDING PUBLIC SAFETY, SUPPORTING ESSENTIAL COUNTY SERVICES, AND MAINTAINING RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES FOR OUR COUNTY RESIDENTS. THE CONTRACT WILL COMMENCE ON MARCH 1ST, PENDING APPROVAL OBVIOUSLY THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2028. THE TERM THE INITIAL TERM IS FOR TWO YEARS AND FOUR MONTHS AND PROVIDES FOR ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR OPTIONS SUBJECT TO A 3% ANNUAL CPI INCREASE. THE INITIAL TERM COST IS $9,925,968.62. THANK YOU. YOUR COLLEAGUES HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I HAVE TIFFANY FITZPATRICK HERE AND LEROY FLEMING HERE AS WELL. FROM, YES.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? OKAY. COUNCIL. MR. SO GOOD EVENING. IS THERE PERFORMANCE TIED INTO THIS CONTRACT AND WHERE ARE THEY DOING THE WORK OUT OF? AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYED IN THIS CONTRACT TO WORK ON THESE? SURE. SO YES THE I'M SORRY. LET ME GO BACK TO IT. SO THE. I'M LIKE LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. THAT'S OKAY. I'M SO SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SO IS THEIR PERFORMANCE. YES. PERFORMANCE MEASURES. YES. SO THERE'S EXTENSIVE PERFORMANCE MEASURES IN THIS CONTRACT. WE ACTUALLY CREATED A WHOLE SECTION IN THE RFP TO DETAIL THE SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE MEASURES PER VEHICLE TYPE TO ENSURE THE MOST EFFICIENT UPTIME OF THE VEHICLES OF THE COUNTY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT IT. THE CONTRACT WILL BE OPERATED OUT OF THE FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING. THAT'S OVER ON 30TH. IT'S AT IT'S AT 1304 ENTERPRISE COURT IN BELLAIRE. OKAY. AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL BE WORKING ON THESE VEHICLES? WE HAVE 19 TECHNICIANS TO 19. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE PEOPLE IN TRAINING AS WELL THAT ARE THAT ARE DOING THAT? AND IT'S FOR ME, IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM DOES ON VEHICLES. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM ON VEHICLES, VEHICLES TEND TO BREAK DOWN, HAVE ACCIDENTS, WHICH COSTS US MONEY. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE VEHICLES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE, THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINED BECAUSE ACCIDENTS DO HAPPEN. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS ON MY OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD IS HOW ARE VEHICLES MAINTAINED? ARE THEY MAINTAINED ON A REGULAR BASIS, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A SAFETY CHECK. SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I'M ALSO ASKING HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRAINING AND AND EVERYTHING. DO YOU GET ANY OF THESE EMPLOYEES THAT COME FROM HARTFORD TECH, BY ANY CHANCE? WE ACTUALLY DID GET ONE. ONE PERSON CAME FROM HARTFORD TECH FOR AN INTERNSHIP THROUGH TRANSDEV. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE INTERNSHIPS FOR THESE? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT. ABSOLUTELY. SO TRANSDEV HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, ENGAGED WITH HARTFORD TECH AT SOME OF THEIR TECHNICIANS COMING OUT. WE DID HAVE A TECHNICIAN COME IN AS AN INTERN AND WE ENDED UP HIRING HIM. SO IS THAT NOT PART OF THEIR CONTRACT THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE HARTFORD TECH STUDENTS COME IN AND SHATTER OR ANYTHING? NO, THAT IS NOT IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO, BUT WE COULD ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO SO. SO WAS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD NOT PUT IN THE CONTRACT TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO THAT, SINCE THEY'RE WORKING ON ON COUNTY? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT DEPENDS. SO WITH THIS CONTRACT WE HAD TO SOLICIT.

SO WE REALLY WEREN'T SURE WHO WE WERE GOING TO GET. WE DID HAVE TWO COMPETITORS ON THE

[00:45:01]

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WE DID PREVIOUSLY HAVE A HAVE A TALK WITH TRANSDEV. AND WE EXPRESSED TO THEM THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WAS LOOKING TO DO MORE OF THAT TYPE OF THING, HIRING PEOPLE WITHIN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS THAT ARE TRAINING FOR THESE TYPES OF JOBS. AND THEY DID ACTUALLY MEET WITH HARTFORD TECH, HARTFORD TECHNICAL TECHNICAL SCHOOLS EMPLOYEES, AND THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. AND THAT RELATIONSHIP IS THEY MIGHT BECOME THEY MIGHT DO INTERNSHIPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MOSTLY. CORRECT. OKAY. BUT THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US ANY KIND OF, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE INTERNS A YEAR. NOTHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. CAN THAT QUESTION AT LEAST BE ASKED TO THEM? MAYBE WE CAN GET AN ANSWER BACK ON THAT. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TO KNOW WHAT THEIR WHAT THEIR IS ON FOR THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT YOU SAID WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. WHAT DIFFERENT SAID SHERIFF'S OFFICE. YES, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE LIBRARY. HOW MANY VEHICLES DOES THE LIBRARY HAVE? THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND 40 VEHICLES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WHO ELSE? HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE. HOW MANY DO THEY HAVE? ABOUT MAYBE 30. OKAY. HOW MANY DID SHERIFFS HAVE? THE SHERIFF HAS A LITTLE OVER 400. YEAH, THAT'S A LOT. AND WHAT WHAT'S THE LAST ONE OR IS THERE ONE MORE TRANSIT? TRANSIT LINK. TRANSIT LINK. AND THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND 40. WHO DOES THE FIRE TRUCKS. THEY THEY'RE NOT DOING THE FIRE TRUCKS. THAT'S SOMEBODY DIFFERENT. WELL, THE FIRE TRUCKS. I MEAN AMBULANCE AMBULANCES ARE UNDER HERE. SO IS THIS IN ALSO IN THIS CONTRACT? THE AMBULANCE. YES. CORRECT. OKAY, OKAY. THE TOTAL FLEET SIZE IS AROUND 1300 VEHICLES, I BELIEVE. AND WHO WAS DOING IT PRIOR TO THIS GROUP? WAS IT ANOTHER COMPANY OR SAME PEOPLE? TRANSDEV IS THE INCUMBENT. AND HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN HERE? OVER 15 YEARS.

YEAH. OVER 15, 15 YEARS. LONG TIME. YEAH. AND EVERYTHING'S GONE WELL FOR 15 YEARS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. YEP. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? THERE IS NO ONE SIGNED UP, MR. PRESIDENT. ALL RIGHT. WITH NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP, THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL TAKE IT UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

[v. Bill 25-015 (Supplemental Appropriation – Foster Branch)]

MR. STANLEY, IT'S YOUR TURN AGAIN. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ASKING FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL CAPITAL BUDGET APPROPRIATION IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000, WHICH WILL BE $125,000 OF COUNTY FUNDS, AND THEN $125,000 OF STATE FUNDS UNDER THE WATERWAY IMPROVEMENT FUNDS. AND THIS IS TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE NECESSARY DREDGING AT THE FOSTER BRANCH DREDGING PROJECT. SO THE ESTIMATES CAME IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE $500,000 APPROPRIATION THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD. OF COURSE, WITH DREDGING, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DO IT ALL. IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO DREDGE HALF A CHANNEL. SO WE WANTED TO DO THAT. AND ALSO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE COUNTY, BY PUTTING FORWARD $125,000, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME FINES AND THE LIKE FROM FROM THE ORIGINAL RESERVE PROJECT IN THAT AREA, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT OBVIOUSLY, I THINK, RELATED TO SOMETIMES THE NEED FOR FOR DREDGING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WE ARE SEEING THIS AS, AS LIKE MORE OR LESS A CONTRIBUTION OF THOSE FUNDS GOING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY SHARE. SO WHAT WE DO KNOW ABOUT THIS IS THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE UNDER A RELATIVELY TIGHT TIME FRAME, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE IT COMPLETED BY BY MID-FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR, BUT THIS WILL CERTAINLY BE OF OF ASSISTANCE TO THE BOATING COMMUNITY DOWN THERE. DO WE KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTRACT WITH A LOCAL CONTRACTOR? YOU KNOW, I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY THE THE INS AND OUTS OF THAT. WE CAN WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AS TO AS TO HOW THAT THAT PROCESS DOES, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY. SO, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP AND ALL WITH THE STATE AND ALL BUT OKAY. COUNCIL ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP. WE HAVE ONE SIGNED UP THIS EVENING. OH I SEE HIM GETTING UP. JEFFREY BECK. NO, NO. MR. TIMOC HOW DO HOW ARE YOU SIR? NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. BILL TOMEK, 425 LATIMER ROAD, JOPPA, MARYLAND.

[00:50:02]

THE CHANNEL IS SLIGHTLY NARROWER. AND THE WATERS, FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH FOSTER BRANCH, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE BECAUSE IT'S A NOTHING LITTLE STREAM. WHEN THE WATERS TURN ORANGE, IT IT IT TURNS GUNPOWDER ORANGE ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE BAY. LET'S GET THIS STUFF OUT OF THERE. THANK YOU. SIR. ANYONE ELSE, MISS DIXON? YES, YES, MR. BECK. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. HI, GUYS. ME AGAIN? JEFF BECK, 1 OR 2 SHELL ROAD, JOPPATOWNE, MARYLAND. LIKE BILL, I AM IN FAVOR OF THE COUNTY ALLOCATING THIS ADDITIONAL FUND TO PROPERLY DREDGE FOSTER BRANCH. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT JUST ONE THING THAT I LEARNED VERY RECENTLY. JUST READING UP ON THIS. OBVIOUSLY, DREDGING IS IMPORTANT. IT IMPROVES THE HEALTH OF THE ENTIRE STREAM AND ECOSYSTEM, AS WELL AS HELPING FOR BOATING NAVIGATION. ALL I BOAT IS A KAYAK SO IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT ME IN THAT REGARD. I FOUND OUT ACTUALLY JUST THIS WEEK THAT BACK IN 2013, THIS VERY COUNTY COMMISSIONED BAY LAND CONSULTING TO COMPLETE A 140 PAGE, NOT INCLUDING APPENDICES REPORT ENTITLED FOSTER BRANCH WATERSHED SMALL WATERSHED ACTION PLAN. FOLLOWING THAT ACTION PLAN, THE COUNTY THEN COMPLETED NO LESS THAN HALF A DOZEN STREAM RESTORATION AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROJECTS, AND THEY WERE ALL COMPLETED BEFORE D.R. HORTON PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND. SEND HIM THE WHOLE BILL.

ALL OF IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR. PRESIDENT, WITH NO MORE SPEAKERS. THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BILL 2515. THIS HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

WILL BE TAKEN UP AT A AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A RECESS FOR'RE READY. R

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[4. PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATIONS]

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THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR DEDICATION REALLY SHOWS WITH ALL OF YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES COMING OUT TONIGHT. THANK YOU, COACH DAVE AND COACH CHAD FOR EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE I THINK I THINK YOU'RE GOOD WHENEVER THE PHOTOGRAPHER IS READY. I GOT YOUR VOICE. ALL RIGHT. IF I CAN HAVE THE WHOLE TEAM SHIFT THIS WAY, A COUPLE STEPS. OKAY? IT'S LIKE A SOCCER BACK UP HERE. ONE OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. CERTAINLY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE BACK. IF YOU COULD COME AS FAR FORWARD AS YOU CAN. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A DESK THERE, BUT. I CAN STAND ON THE DESK, SQUEEZE IN. WITH EACH OTHER. YEAH. NO, I'M LIKE I LIKE, SHIFT IT AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THEY TOOK SHOWERS.

THAT IS YOU. COME ON. OKAY. YEAH. LET'S SEE EVERYBODY. THAT'S IMPORTANT. YOU GOTTA GET THE PHOTOS FOR ALL THE MOMS. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, GET YOUR BLINKS OUT. NOW, WHEN I SAY THREE, YOUR EYES BETTER BE OPEN. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ONE, TWO. THREE. UGLY. ALL RIGHT. 1231.

TWO THREE. ONE MORE. 123. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS.

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO TALK. I CLEANED OUT A WHOLE BUNCH. AND I WILL GET YOU. RIGHT. OKAY.

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS]

BOARD OF HEALTH, APPOINTMENT. OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH CORE SERVICE AGENCY. MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF LAUREN LEVY.

THANK YOU. MAY HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE MISS LEVY TO THE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH CORE SERVICE AGENCY. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT, I THIS IS ROBERT I, MRS. EMHOFF I MR. GIORDANO I MR. RILEY I MRS. SEIDEL I MR. BENNETT I THERE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE ZERO TO NEGATIVE.

THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED COUNCIL NOW BACK AS THE COUNTY COUNCIL SIX SPECIAL

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[8. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTIONS]

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COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AS SPONSOR OF THIS RESOLUTION, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH BALTIMORE COUNTY AND WORKING WITH COUNCILMAN DAVID MARKS IN LOOKING AT HOW THIS DISCHARGE, WHICH IS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS TRASH JUICE, AFFECTS THE GUNPOWDER RIVER SYSTEM. THEY'RE LOOKING AT 12% IS WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THEY WANT TO INCREASE IT TO 25%. ANY RUNOFF OR DISCHARGE ENTERING THE BALTIMORE GUN, ENTERING THE GUNPOWDER IN BALTIMORE COUNTY ACTUALLY FLOWS DOWNSTREAM DIRECTLY INTO HARFORD COUNTY'S TIDAL WATERS, IMPACTING COMMUNITIES SUCH AS JOPPATOWNE, EDGEWOOD, AND OTTER POINT CREEK. THESE ARE AREAS ALREADY VULNERABLE TO FLOODING AND STORM SURGE. WHEN POLLUTANTS ENTER THE SYSTEM, THEY CAN TRAVEL THROUGH THE TIDAL MOVEMENT AND WIND CURRENTS INTO THE BUSH RIVER AND THE UPPER CHESAPEAKE BAY, THREATENING AQUATIC LIFE, RECREATION, AND OUR DRINKING WATER SOURCES. AS WE JUST HAD A STORM WITH HIGH WINDS AND RAIN LAST WEEK. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS TRASH JUICE WOULD BE CIRCULATED THROUGH AND INTO OUR WATERS. THIS IS NOT JUST AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. AND HARFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS DESERVE ASSURANCE THAT WHAT HAPPENS UPSTREAM WILL NOT ENDANGER THEIR HOMES, THEIR WATER OR THEIR FUTURE. DAVE'S COVE HAD HAD REPEATED VIOLATIONS SINCE 2023 AND MDE, ALTHOUGH THEY'VE NOTED THESE VIOLATIONS, IS STILL LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF PERMITTING THEM TO HAVE THE PERMIT. THE BALTIMORE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ENACTED UNANIMOUSLY TO OPPOSE THIS PERMIT, AND I BELIEVE HARFORD COUNTY SHOULD STAND WITH THEM. OUR MESSAGE TO THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT MUST BE CLEAR. WE SUPPORT STRONGER ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, INDEPENDENT REVIEW AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ANY OPERATION THAT IMPACTS OUR SHARED WATERWAYS. BY PASSING THIS RESOLUTION, WE UNITE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS OF BALTIMORE COUNTY TO DEFEND THE GUNPOWDER AND BUSH RIVERS, INCLUDING THE CHESAPEAKE BAY AND THE PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON THEM EVERY DAY.

THANK YOU, MISS ROBERT. AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION ZERO 38 DASH 25. THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU, MISS IMHOF. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION ZERO 3825. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. BENNETT? I'M JUST REALLY GLAD THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERT IS MOVING THIS FORWARD. I JUST THINK IT'S SUCH A CRITICAL ISSUE. IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THINGS CROSS COUNTY LINES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO WATER, CAN IMPACT US ACROSS STATE LINES, CAN IMPACT US. BUT THE IDEA THAT THAT THEY WOULD EVEN CONSIDER DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF TRASH JUICE THAT'S ABLE TO FLOW INTO OUR WATERWAYS, WHERE WE PLAY, WHERE WE DRINK, WHERE WE LIVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE ENVIRONMENT, NOT THE ENVIRONMENT. YOU KNOW, LET'S TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE. AND I'M REALLY GLAD, YOU KNOW, DAVID MARKS IS A GREAT COUNCILMAN WHO'S SUPER ON TOP OF THIS KIND OF STUFF. AND I'M THANKFUL THAT DAY'S COVE IS IN WHITEMARSH TO KNOW THAT HE'S FIGHTING IT ON BALTIMORE COUNTY SIDE. BUT I'M VERY THANKFUL TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERT FOR TAKING THE HOLD OF THIS OVER IN HARFORD COUNTY TO FIGHT THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON, MR. PRESIDENT? HI, MRS. ROBERTS. HI, MRS. EMHOFF. HI, MR. GIORDANO. HI, MR. RILEY. HI, MRS. HI, MR. BENNETT. HI. THERE.

BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE, ZERO IN A NEGATIVE RESOLUTION. ZERO 3825 IS HEREBY

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THANK YOU. MR. SANDERS I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ATTENDING THIS EVENING. AND THIS WILL BE TAKEN UP AT A FUTURE MEETING. RESOLUTION ZERO 4025. RESOLUTION ZERO 4025, INTEREST RATE OF REDEMPTION FOR INTRODUCTION INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VICENTE AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE INTEREST RATE OF REDEMPTION FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED IN HARFORD COUNTY THAT ARE SOLD AT TAX SALE. PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2ND, 2025 AT 6:30 P.M. IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. RESOLUTION ZERO 4125 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY LOAN FUND RPM TECH LLC, AS INTRODUCED INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VICENTE AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE A LOAN THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY LOAN FUND TO RAPID PROTOTYPING AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGIES, LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF 200,000 FOR THE PURPOSE OF RENOVATING DEVELOPING PROPERTY LOCATED AT 12 EAST JARRETTSVILLE ROAD, FOREST HILL, MARYLAND. 21050, INCLUDING CONVERSION OF EXISTING BARN TO OFFICE AND LABORATORY SPACE, INTERIOR ELECTRICAL WORK, HVAC ALARM SYSTEM AND INSTALLATION OF OFFICE AND LABORATORY EQUIPMENT AND TO PROVIDE THAT SUCH LOAN BE MADE UPON SUCH TERMS AND CONDITIONS WITH SUCH SECURITY AND INTEREST RATE, WHICH MAY BE APPROVED BY THE RESOLUTION OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL OF HARFORD COUNTY, MARYLAND. PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER

[10. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS]

BILL 20 5-01 16 ANIMAL SHELTER AS INTRODUCED INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS ROBERT AND EMHOFF. AN ACT TO REPEAL AND REENACT WITH AMENDMENTS TO DEFINITION OF ANIMAL SHELTER OF SECTION 267 FOR DEFINITIONS OF ARTICLE ONE. GENERAL PROVISIONS OF PART ONE. STANDARDS OF CHAPTER 267 ZONING OF THE HARFORD COUNTY CODE, AS AMENDED, TO ALLOW ANIMAL SHELTERS TO PROVIDE SPAYING AND NEUTERING SERVICES AND WELLNESS VACCINES TO DOMESTIC ANIMALS AND LIVESTOCK OWNED BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND GENERALLY RELATING TO ZONING. PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2ND, 2025 AT 6:30 P.M. IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. BILL 2517 FINANCE AND TAXATION AS INTRODUCED. INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTE AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE. AN ACT TO REPEAL AND REENACT WITH AMENDMENTS.

SECTION ONE, 2333. REDEMPTION RATE OF INTEREST TO REPEAL AND REENACT WITH AMENDMENTS.

SECTION ONE, 2335 NOTICE TO DELINQUENT TAXPAYERS PROCEDURE FOR SALE OF REAL PROPERTY TO REPEAL AND REENACT WITH AMENDMENTS. SECTION ONE, 2336 EFFECTIVE LEGAL HOLIDAY ON DATE OF REAL PROPERTY TAX SALES. ALL OF ARTICLE ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 123 FINANCE AND TAXATION OF THE HARFORD COUNTY CODE, AS AMENDED, TO REVISE CERTAIN PROCEDURES RELATED TO REAL PROPERTY TAX SALES AND GENERALLY RELATING TO FINANCE AND TAXATION. PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2ND, 2025 AT 6:30 P.M. IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU.

[11. INTRODUCTION AND CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS]

[01:10:11]

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO TO BILL 2511. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME, MISS ALLEGY? WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK TO THE REASON? SURE. THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE. I THINK AT THE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. STANLEY SPOKE TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS ONE MORE PROPERTY THAT APPLIED TO GET THIS TAX CREDIT BECAUSE OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND GOT ALL THE INFORMATION. THEN THERE'S TWO AMENDMENTS BECAUSE NOW THERE'S 36 APPLICATIONS INSTEAD OF 35 APPLICATIONS. SO THAT HAD TO BE AMENDED TO REFLECT THE NUMBER.

AND THEN ALSO OBVIOUSLY THE TAX ID NUMBER AND THE PROPERTY ADDRESS WAS ADDED TO THE BILL TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROPERTY GOT THE TAX CREDIT. THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE TWO AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE ANY QUESTIONS OR. ALL RIGHT, MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT, I MRS. ROBERT I, MRS. EMHOFF MR. GIORDANO I MR. RILEY I MRS. I MR. BENNETT I THERE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND A NEGATIVE AMENDMENTS ONE AND TWO ARE

[12. CALL FOR FINAL READING OF BILLS]

SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE BILL 2511 AS AMENDED. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT, I MRS. ROBERT I MRS. EMHOFF, I. MR. AJA. AYE. MR. RILEY. MRS. I MR. BENNETT I YOU'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ZERO TO NEGATIVE BILL 25 ZERO 11 AS AMENDED, IS HEREBY APPROVED. 12 ENROLLMENT

[13. ENROLLMENT OF BILLS]

[15. NEW BUSINESS]

[18. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS]

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NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PATRICK GAFFNEY. I LIVE AT 2501 OLD JOPPA ROAD IN MARYLAND. 21085. AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF. HAREWOOD PARK I LIVE IN JOPPA, OBVIOUSLY, OLIVER BEACH, ALL THE PLACES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY COVE. AND I'M REALLY BUMMED OUT BECAUSE I HAD THIS DRAMATIC SPEECH AND SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD SOME OF MINE IN THE PAST. THIS WAS A GOOD ONE, BUT I'M GOING TO SAVE YOU ALL THE TROUBLE AND JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE EARLIER TONIGHT. DAYS COVE IS A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, A GOOD FRIEND OF OURS WAS JUST WAITING IN THE RIVER, AND THAT'S PROBABLY 2000FT FROM DAYS COVE. SHE ENDED UP IN THE HOSPITAL TO BE TREATED FOR BACTERIAL INFECTIONS AND ALL THE FOODS TESTING POSITIVE FOR PCBS AND MERCURY AND STUFF. SO IT IS A BIG DEAL. IT'S A HEALTH THREAT, YOU KNOW, AND JUST THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS THERE, YOU KNOW. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK. SINCE YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS AND THE OTHER THINGS I'VE COME UP HERE AND ASKED FOR, YOU GUYS SEEM TO REALLY SEE THE VALUE IN THE ECOLOGY AND THINGS LIKE THAT AROUND THE COUNTY. SO I APPRECIATE IT AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE NIGHT. THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. MY NAME IS CARL BARKEY. I'M MY ADDRESS IS 2823 CHEN OAK AVENUE, PARKVILLE, MARYLAND. AND I HAVE A LITTLE SHORE THAT WAS GIFTED TO ME BY MY MOTHER IN HAREWOOD PARK. I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE 70S, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE OPPOSED THIS. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE COMING HERE TO SEE A RABBLE ROUSER OF SOME SORT, WHERE THERE WOULD BE BOTH SIDES VOICED. THIS IS AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE FROM HAREWOOD PARK. IT KIND OF SCARED ME. I THOUGHT I WAS IN THE WRONG PLACE. SO AT ANY RATE, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN DAYS COVE OVER THE YEARS, SINCE THE 70S. AND TO ME, THERE'S A I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT IT'S A SIMPLE THING. MY FATHER WAS A RESPECTED CIVIL ENGINEER. HE TOLD ME HOW MONEY WORKS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN BUILDING ROADS AND BRIDGES. AND QUITE OFTEN I'VE, I'VE COME UP AGAINST HAVING TO TANGLE WITH EMD, DNR, MVA. AND IT'S ALWAYS STIFLING TO ME TO FIND OUT HOW MANY HOOPS I HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH TO GET ANYTHING DONE. SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, BEING RIGHT DOWN THE LINE FOR STOPPING THESE PEOPLE, WHOEVER IS INVOLVED IN IT, FOR WHAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE THIS INSIDIOUS PRESUMPTION THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT TO TAMPER WITH A SYSTEM. I WAS BROUGHT UP IN MY IN THE FOURTH GRADE. I'M 70 NOW. IN THE FOURTH GRADE, I LEARNED ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION AND DUMPING EVERYTHING INTO THE STREAMS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE FIRST RUN THROUGH WITH ECOLOGY.

AND I WOULD THINK THAT AWARENESS WOULD. I'M APPALLED THAT ANYTHING WAS EVEN. LOFTED TO DUMP MORE RATHER THAN LESS OF ANYTHING INTO THE BAY. I PICK UP, I PICK UP TRASH EVERY DAY WHEN I WALK AROUND, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE TO ME, IT'S JUST APPALLING HOW LOW WE FAR LOWERED THE BAR ON EVERYTHING. SO AT ANY RATE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR. BEING ACROSS THE BOARD FOR OPPOSING THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAMPER WITH GOD'S CYCLE OF WATER. IT'S HYDROLOGY 101 IS WATER FLOWS DOWNHILL AND SO DOES EVERY PROBLEM THAT IS DILUTED WITHIN IT. SO KUDOS TO UNITED FORCE HERE. OUT OF CURIOSITY, I DON'T I'M NOT A

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[17. BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS]

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AND THEN I HAD THE CAB MEETING LAST NIGHT, AND I THINK I ONLY HAD ONE MORE THING TO ANNOUNCE, AND THAT IS THAT WE ARE CELEBRATING NATIONAL SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGY WEEK. SO THANK ALL THE SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS. IT IS THE WEEK OF NOVEMBER 3RD THROUGH SEVENTH, AND WE ALL NEED A LOT OF OUR THERAPISTS IN THOSE SCHOOLS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ROBERT. MISS IMHOF, GOOD EVENING. SO ON OCTOBER 22ND, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY FOR HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S EARLY LEARNING CENTER, AS WELL FOR THEIR NEW INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND. ON OCTOBER 23RD, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE HARTFORD SOIL CONSERVATION DISTRICT'S ANNUAL DINNER, WHICH RECOGNIZES LOCAL FARMERS AND ADVOCATES DEDICATED TO PRESERVING OUR FAMILY FARMS, PROTECTING OUR SOIL, AND SAFEGUARDING OUR LAND AND WATERWAYS. ON OCTOBER 25TH, I ATTENDED THE RIBBON CUTTING AND FALL FEST AND THEN ALSO ATTENDED THE THE HARTFORD COMMUNITY, THE HARTFORD COUNTY FARM FAIR, FALL FEST AS WELL.

ON OCTOBER 23RD, I ATTENDED THE HARTFORD COUNTY COMMISSION FOR WOMEN'S PERSONAL SAFETY PRESENTATION LED BY THERESA WALTERS. AND THEN ON OCTOBER 30TH, I ATTENDED THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES ANNUAL EMPLOYMENT LUNCHEON FOR UPCOMING EVENTS. WE HAVE THE IU MATTER YOUTH SYMPOSIUM FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST AT THE Y IN ABINGDON. FROM 4 TO 1030. THEY ALREADY HAD 90 GIRLS SIGNED UP. AS OF NOW THEY DO HAVE 100. NOW THEY HAVE 100 GIRLS SIGNED UP AND WE'RE STILL THREE WEEKS OUT. ON OCTOBER 19TH, THE FINAL COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AND REPAIR FUND COMMUNITY INPUT SESSION ■IS BEING HELD AT THE BEL AIR LIBRARY BEGINNING AT 6 P.M. THIS IS THE FUNDS THAT COME FROM CANNABIS TAX, AND WE WANT TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET INPUT, GIVE INPUT AS TO HOW YOU WISH US TO SPEND THAT MONEY. THE HARFORD COUNTY THANKSGIVING FOOD DRIVE RUNS FROM NOVEMBER 1ST TO NOVEMBER 22ND 21ST. ALL DONATIONS WILL BE SUPPLEMENT WILL SUPPLEMENT HARFORD COMMUNITY ACTION AGENCY FOOD BANK. WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, HEADS UP BASTA PASTA IN FALLSTON IS ALREADY PARTNERING WITH TOYS FOR TOTS, SO PLEASE BRING YOUR UNWRAPPED GIFTS TO BASTA PASTA AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET TO SOME LITTLE FRIENDS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT REALLY NEED IT. ALSO, HEADS UP, THERE'S A VETERANS FAMILY RESOURCE FAIR AT THE BEL AIR ARMORY NOVEMBER 15TH FROM 10 A.M. TO 1 P.M. AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET THEIR TICKETS FOR THE HARFORD COUNTY FARM BUREAU'S ANNUAL BANQUET, WHICH IS ALSO ON FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST AT PINE VIEW FARM. THANK YOU, MISS EMHOFF. MR. GIORDANO, THOSE TWO HAVE A LOT GOING. WE GET AROUND. SO GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. BEL AIR TOWN, MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS TONIGHT. POLLS ARE CLOSED NOW SO GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE CANDIDATES. ALSO ATTENDED THE BEL AIR AWARDS AT THE ARMORY. ALSO WAS DOWNTOWN HAVRE DE GRACE FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING. THE ROAD LOOKS GREAT. AND THEN WE STOPPED AT LA CUCINA AND SAW GINO AND GOT A SLICE OF PIZZA. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO LA CUCINA, STOP DOWN THERE. STUFF IS GREAT. ATTENDED THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES ANNUAL EMPLOYMENT RECOGNITION LUNCHEON, ALSO AT THE BEL AIR ARMORY, AND THIS PAST SATURDAY I ATTENDED THE LIBRARY GALA AND REPRISE MY ROLE AS JAKE ELWOOD, BLUES BROTHER. SO HAD A LOT OF FUN MAKING A VIDEO, HAD A LOT OF FUN BEING THERE DRESSED AS JAKE ELWOOD, AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT.

AND ALSO, MY CONDOLENCES AGAIN TO MARY HASLER. SHE HAD FALLEN AFTER UNFORTUNATE WITH HER HER HUSBAND AND SHE WAS ABLE TO BE THERE. SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE MARY THAT DAY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTE AND MY OTHER COUNCIL MATE JIM RILEY WAS THERE AS WELL. OKAY. AND SO THE VETERANS RESOURCE FAIR IS, COUNCILWOMAN IMHOFF SAID, IS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH AT THE BEL AIR ARMORY. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FOOD FROM MISSION BARBECUE PROVIDED BY HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT. WE WERE OUT LAST SATURDAY AT THE FARMERS MARKET, TRYING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THE VETERANS FAIR, AND I'LL BE THERE AGAIN THIS SATURDAY WITH A TABLE SET UP. I'M HOPING WITH THE VETERANS FAIR. SO ANYBODY THAT'S A VETERAN COME BY, I PROBABLY HAVE SOME NICE AMERICAN FLAGS FOR YOU THAT I'LL GIVE OUT. AND LAST FIRST FRIDAY IS COMING THIS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR. JORDAN AND MR. ROWLEY. SO CONGRATS TO THREE FOLKS FROM THE HARTFORD SOIL CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THEY GOT AWARDS FRANK RICHARDSON, MELVIN HOOVER AND ANNETTE ENZOR. ALSO IS

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LAST NIGHT IN ABERDEEN, THERE WAS A BIG OPEN HOUSE. THEY SPOKE ABOUT BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS, COMMUNITY PROJECTS AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES WITH SEVERAL BG STAFF THERE TO ASSIST. SINCE WE DON'T HAVE COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK AND HONOR OUR VETERANS FOR THEIR SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SILOS. MR. BENNETT, HELLO. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO REAL QUICK. IT WASN'T ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT MY HOME CHURCH IS SAINT JOHN'S, OVER IN HAVRE DE GRACE. AND WE SUPPORT AND HOST SAINT JOHN'S CUPBOARD EVERY FRIDAY. TWO YEARS AGO, WE WOULD SEE 80 TO 90 PEOPLE COME THROUGH FOR GROCERIES ON FRIDAY. THIS PAST FRIDAY, 150 PEOPLE CAME TO OUR CUPBOARD LOOKING FOR GROCERIES FOR THE WEEK. 30 OF THOSE PEOPLE HAD NEVER COME BEFORE. THINGS ARE REALLY TOUGH FOR PEOPLE RIGHT NOW FOR FOOD. YOU KNOW, IN MY DAY JOB, I WENT ON A FIELD TRIP AND WE HAD SEVERAL FAMILIES NOT COME BECAUSE THEY SAID, WE CAN'T SPEND $19 ON A FIELD TRIP RIGHT NOW. WE NEED THAT MONEY FOR FOOD. AND SO I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WHO'S ABLE TO GIVE TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL FOOD PANTRIES, WHICHEVER ONE IS, YOU KNOW, CLOSEST TO YOU OR MOST MEANINGFUL TO YOU. THEY ALL NEED THE SUPPORT RIGHT NOW, EVEN WITHOUT EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THINGS HAVE BEEN REALLY TOUGH THIS YEAR FOR PEOPLE. SO JUST KEEP THOSE PEOPLE IN MIND. BUT I ALSO ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO'S IN ARMS LENGTH OF ANYONE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE ENCOURAGING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT USE PEOPLE FOR POLITICS AND LET'S TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU INTERACT DAILY WITH PEOPLE WHO JUST NEED HELP, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE THEM NOT RECEIVING THAT HELP. VETERANS DAY IS NEXT WEEK, AND THERE WILL BE VETERANS DAY PARADE IN HAVRE DE GRACE, RAIN OR SHINE, AT 11 A.M. IT WILL GO FROM HUTCHINS PARK OVER TO THE AMERICAN LEGION, AND IT'S A VERY FUN EVENT THAT I'M THANKFUL SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED SO THAT I'M ABLE TO BE THERE AT 11 A.M. AND ENJOY THAT. THE ROUTE 40 BUSINESS ASSOCIATION WILL MEET AT THE VANDIVER INN ON 1112 AT 11 A.M. AND MAYOR MARTIN WILL BE THE GUEST SPEAKER. THE CHARLIE RILEY SCHOLARSHIP AWARDS WILL HAPPEN THAT SAME DAY AT 6:30 P.M. AT THE LEVEL VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY. AND THEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT TWO IMPORTANT EVENTS COMING UP. DPW WILL BE HOSTING AN UPDATE MEETING ON 1112 AT 6 P.M. AT ABERDEEN HIGH SCHOOL TO UPDATE ON ROAD ON TRUCK RESTRICTION SIGNAGE THAT'S GOING UP ON VEHICLE HEIGHT MONITORS AND WOODLEY ROAD, WHICH ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PROJECTS TO THE PERRIMAN COMMUNITY. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH DPW, TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THEM WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHEN THINGS WILL GET DONE. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING NIGHT, IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT ON THE 12TH, ON THE 13TH AT THE ABINGDON BELCAMP PERRIMAN CAB MEETING AT 630 AT ABINGDON FIRE COMPANY, MY OFFICE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY AND THE THE BOARD CO-CHAIRS TO SCHEDULE DPW TO PROVIDE UPDATES THEN AS WELL BOTH ON ALL THE ISSUES I JUST DESCRIBED IN PERRIMAN, BUT ALSO ON THE BOX HILL FLOODING MITIGATION EFFORTS. SO AGAIN, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH DPW DIRECTLY, TO ASK QUESTIONS, TO SHARE YOUR CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS RIGHT AWAY. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS WITH DPW ON ROADS FLOODING AND BEING TOLD, OH NO, IT'S JUST BEAVERS.

AND IT'S LIKE, ACTUALLY, NO, THERE WAS A SITUATION THAT NEEDED TO BE SOLVED AND YOU NEEDED TO BE THERE TO SOLVE IT. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ADDRESSED.

ENGAGING WITH OUR COUNTY IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, AND THESE ARE TWO REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO JUST THAT. SO I HOPE PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY COME TO EITHER THE

[16. BUSINESS FROM THE PRESIDENT]

[01:35:06]

WILL WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM SMITH AND TYSON? YEAH, THEY SAID ABOUT FOUR WEEKS. THEY SHOULD EXPECT THE DRAFT REPORT. OKAY, SO AND THEN FINALLY, CONDOLENCES. JEAN AND I WISH TO EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF ARTHUR GREENWOOD. HE WAS A DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WORKER HERE IN HARTFORD COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS AND UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY SUDDENLY. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANT TO OFFER OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE FERRERO FAMILY. THE FAMILY, THE MCILHENNY FAMILY IN GREECE, THE BURCH FAMILY IN ABINGTON. AND UNFORTUNATELY TO MICHELLE CASKEY, MOM PASSED AWAY RECENTLY. SO JUST WANT TO EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO ALL, AND WE ASK YOU THAT YOU KEEP YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. SO

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