Apr 07, 2026 County Council

[a. Resolution 007-26 (Master Water and Sewer Plan Update Spring 2026) ]

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FOUR. THREE. TWO. GOOD EVENING. CHAIR. CALLS TO ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESOLUTION 007 26.

MASTER WATER AND SEWER PLAN UPDATE 2026. GOOD EVENING. MR. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING. VERY WELL. YOURSELF. I'M GOOD. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THE FIRST SECTION WE HAVE IS TABLES AND GRIDS. REVISION NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED AT 310 NILES LANE AND FALLSTON, ZONED CI. IT IS SHOWN ON GRID A4 OF THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE AREA MAPS AND IS IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL TAX MAP 55. PARCEL 363. IT RECEIVED SITE PLAN APPROVAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON OCTOBER 10TH, 2025 FOR A 5000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL TRADE SERVICE BUILDING. THEY ARE REQUESTING A SEWER CATEGORY CHANGE FROM THE S6 CATEGORY TO THE S3 CATEGORY. OKAY, NEXT IS CHAPTER THREE, SECTION 3.15. TABLE 3-1 PLAN DEVELOPMENTS.

TABLE 3-1 IS A TOOL USED BY THE DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER TO ASSESS THE AVAILABLE DEMAND AND CAPACITY OF OUR SYSTEM. CURRENT AND PAST PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAD APPROVAL FROM FOR DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES WITHOUT SPECIFIC USES HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNITS OR USE TO EASILY ACCOUNT FOR THE PROJECT'S DEMAND AND CAPACITY NEEDS. THIS TABLE WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. FOR ONE PROJECT, THE GRACE HALL SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN REVISED TO REFLECT THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES CONNECTED OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. THE FINAL PAGE OF TABLE THREE ONE SHOWS THE REVISIONS TO THE SUMMARY OF THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL, BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIAL ZONED UNITS WITH APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLANS. THE NET CHANGE IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS WAS A REDUCTION OF 120 UNITS, WITH 1439 UNITS REMAINING. THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A BUSINESS ZONE OR THE INDUSTRIAL ACREAGE ZONED. THE NEXT TWO PAGES ARE FOR SECTION 3.20. TABLE 3-8 PLANNED WATERWORKS. IMMEDIATE FIVE YEAR AND TEN YEAR PRIORITIES. THIS TABLE WAS UPDATED TO REFLECT PROJECTS FOR THE DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER, AS WELL AS REQUESTS MADE BY MARYLAND AMERICAN, THE WATER PROVIDER FOR THE TOWN OF BEL AIR. THE TWO COUNTY PROJECTS BEING REMOVED ARE THE WILLOUGHBY BEACH ROAD EXTENSION, WHICH WAS A DEVELOPER FUNDED PROJECT TO EXTEND WATER TO WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS THE COPPER MINE RECREATION FACILITY. THAT FACILITY IS A CURRENT WATER AND SEWER CUSTOMER. THEREFORE, THE EXTENSION IS NO LONGER NEEDED. THE 250 FOOT LINEAR FEET OF JOPPA ROAD TRANSMISSION MAIN WAS EVALUATED AND FOUND TO BE UNNECESSARY. DURING OUR 2020 WATER SYSTEM STUDY. THE TIMING SCHEDULES FOR THE REMAINING PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED, AND THIS TABLE IN THE WORKBOOK ONLY INCLUDES PROJECTS TO WHICH CHANGES ARE PROPOSED. A COMPREHENSIVE TABLE SHOWING ALL CAPITAL WATER PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY AND THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER THREE OF THE OVERALL WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT. CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION 4.04.07 COUNTY SEWAGE SYSTEM TREATMENT FACILITIES. THE JOPPATOWNE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT DESCRIPTION IS BEING REVISED TO INCLUDE INFORMATION REGARDING THE UPGRADE TO THE PLANT'S DISINFECTION PROCESS THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2017.

SECTION 4.14. TABLE FOUR TWO PLANNED CAPITAL SEWER PROJECTS. IMMEDIATE FIVE YEAR AND TEN YEAR PRIORITY. THE NEXT TWO PAGES, LIKE THE REVISION FOR WATER, WERE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE DIVISION OF WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS, AS WELL AS REQUESTS MADE BY THE TOWN OF BEL AIR.

THE TIMING SCHEDULES ARE BEING UPDATED AND ONE NEW COUNTY PROJECT IS BEING ADDED. THE MAGNOLIA SEWER PETITION PROJECT. THE TOWN OF BEL AIR REQUESTED ONE NEW PROJECT TO BE ADDED.

THE BALTIMORE PIKE PUMP STATION AND FORCE MAIN REPLACEMENT. AND AGAIN, THE TABLE IN THIS WORK WORKBOOK INCLUDES ONLY PROJECTS TO WHICH CHANGES ARE PROPOSED. A COMPREHENSIVE TABLE SHOWING ALL SEWER PROJECTS FOR THE COUNTY AND THE THREE MUNICIPALITIES CAN BE FOUND IN CHAPTER FOUR OF THE OVERALL WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT. THE NEXT TWO PAGES IN THE WORKBOOK ARE FOR SECTION 4.15. TABLE 4-3 DISCHARGE RECORD OF SEPTIC HAULERS. THIS WAS REVISED TO SHOW MONTHLY DATA FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2025 FOR ALL SEPTIC HAULED TO SOD RUN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. THIS REVISION IS A STANDARD REQUIREMENT FROM THE MARYLAND DEPARTMENT OF THE ENVIRONMENT TO DOCUMENT CURRENT DATA FOR EACH SPRING MASTER PLAN REVISION. AND THE FINAL SECTION IN THE WORKBOOK INCLUDES THE WRITTEN REQUEST

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SO THEY ARE ABLE TO ASK FOR A REQUEST TO MOVE TO THE THREE. IF THEY DECIDE THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THE SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY NEED TO TO SERVE THIS PROPERTY, THEY NEED TO HAVE IT IN S3 CATEGORY FOR US TO APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. AND DOES THAT MEAN MORE USED, LESS USE, YOU KNOW, OR ALLOWABLE USE? IT'S THE CATEGORIES ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN. SO A THREE CATEGORY IS 0 TO 5 YEARS. A FIVE IS 6 TO 10. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. MR. RILEY. YEAH, CHRIS. WE APPROVED WARGO'S GETTING WATER AND SEWER. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT PROJECT IS? I DO NOT, IT'S ACTUALLY THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN INTO OUR OFFICE FOR APPROVAL, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THEM. THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU CHRIS.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE HOOPS. WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? WE DO HAVE ONE. SPEAKER, JOHN MALLAMO. OH, MY APOLOGIES, MR. MALLAMO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOT QUITE THAT GENEROUS, THOUGH, SIR. GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES. JOHN MALLAMO, 2402 EAGLEVIEW DRIVE, BEL AIR, MARYLAND. NOW, I APPRECIATE THE NICE THE NICE PICTURES AND THE DISCUSSION OF THE WATER AND SEWER PLAN, BUT I'M DISTURBED THAT THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF THE SITUATION AT THE GREEN RIDGE SUBDIVISION. THOSE PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM EXCESSIVELY HIGH WATER BILLS, WATER THAT'S UNFIT TO DRINK. THEY USE BOTTLED WATER MOSTLY, AND LOW PRESSURE. IT'S SERVICED BY A PRIVATE COMPANY. BUT IT'S ATTACHED TO THE HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM. NOW, I KNOW IN ALLEGHENY COUNTY THEY'RE CONSIDERING CONDEMNATION THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN TO DISPLACE THAT WATER SERVICE COMPANY IN HARFORD COUNTY. THERE'S NOT A PEEP FROM ANYBODY. YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES ATTEND THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD, AND I EXPECT THAT THEY BRING THE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU. BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT TONIGHT. AND COUNCILWOMAN EMHOFF, THE WATER AT ONE PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION IN FALLSTON HAD THE SAME SITUATION, AND THEY GOT PUBLIC WATER. AND MR. RILEY, YOU ASKED ABOUT THE MOOSE LODGE. YOU SPONSORED LEGISLATION TO INCLUDE THAT PROJECT THAT YOU ASKED ABOUT IN THE COUNTY WATER AND MASTER PLAN, AND I'M WONDERING WHY NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS. ABOUT A THOUSAND IN GREEN RIDGE SUBDIVISION. AND THAT'S EASY TO SAY. THIS IS BUREAUCRATIC INCOMPETENCE, BUT

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[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

[5. CONSIDERATION OF PETITIONS, APPLICATIONS, APPOINTMENTS AND NOMINATIONS ]

THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? HI, MRS. ROBERTS. MRS. EMHOFF, MR. GIORDANO, MR. RILEY, MRS. ABSTAIN. MR. BENNETT, I WITH SIX VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE ONE ABSTENTION. THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED. THE APPOINTMENTS ARE HEREBY APPROVED. ANYONE HERE THIS EVENING IN THAT GROUP. OKAY.

COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, HARFORD TV. MISS, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF DON KERSTETTER TO THE HARTFORD TV. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU. MR. RILEY MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE A HARTFORD TV'S APPOINTMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? HI, MRS. ROBERTS. MRS. EMHOFF. HI, MR. GIORDANO.

HI, MR. RILEY. MRS. HI. MR. BENNETT, I YOU'RE BEING SEVEN VOTES IN. AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO.

NEGATIVE. THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED. DON, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY. EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENTS, PUBLIC LIBRARY, BOARD OF TRUSTEES. MISS EMHOFF, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JONAS VOGEL. HUT. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, TO APPROVE THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MISS HIM AS A AS A MEMBER OF THE LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES. I JUST APPRECIATE MR. VOGEL ATTENDANCE AND WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE ON DOING THIS WORK. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? HI. MRS. ROBERT.

MRS. EMHOFF. HI, MR. GIORDANO. HI, MR. RILEY. HI, MRS. HI, MR. BENNETT, I MEAN, SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO IN A NEGATIVE. THE APPOINTMENT IS HEREBY APPROVED. MR. VOGEL. OKAY.

COMMISSION ON WOMEN, MR. GIORDANO. OKAY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT MOVED TO APPROVE THE

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IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS EMILY, AS A THE COUNCIL APPOINTEE TO THE WOMEN'S COMMISSION AND A THE FORMER CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL ALSO FOR YOUR TIME AND DEDICATION. I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK THE WOMEN'S COMMISSION IS AND HOW MUCH YOU GUYS HAVE GROWN IT. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT, HI, MRS. ROBERT.

HI, MRS. EMHOFF. HI, MR. GIORDANO. HI, MR. RILEY. HI. MRS. POSTAL'S I MR. BENNETT, I BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE. ZERO NEGATIVE. MISS FLINT, I SEE YOU HERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED, PLEASE? OH. YOU'RE WELCOME. ADVISORY BOARD FOR AGING, MR. JORDAN, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF VICKI BARNES, MICHELLE BROUSSEAU, DEBORAH HANLEY, BARRY KLEIN AND JANET PARKER. AND THE NEW APPOINTMENTS OF HEATHER CLAPPER, MEREDITH GROFF, KATHERINE KENDRICK KONDRACKE, LINDA MYERS, PAUL ORLANDO, AND PAMELA BRACKET. GOOD FOR YOU. SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. RILEY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT AND NEW APPOINTMENTS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS DIXON? MR. PRESIDENT? HI. MRS. ROBERTS.

MRS. EMHOFF, MR. GIORDANO. HI. MR. RILEY, MRS. SEIDEL, MR. BENNETT A BEING SEVEN VOTES IN AFFIRMATIVE ZERO AND A NEGATIVE. THE APPOINTMENTS ARE HEREBY APPROVED. MISS HALEY, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE. I SAW YOU IN THE AUDIENCE. ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED. THANK

[6. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS ]

THANK YOU. AND GENTLEMEN, IF YOU JUST PULL THOSE MICS IN A LITTLE CLOSER. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING AND WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. THANK YOU. I GUESS I'LL START. AUSTIN GAVE ME THE PRIVILEGE OF STARTING BECAUSE I'VE. THIS IS MY FIRST ONE I'VE DONE IN PROBABLY FOUR MONTHS SINCE I RETIRED. REAL QUICK BACKGROUND ON ME. RETIRED RECENTLY, NOVEMBER 1ST WITH 32 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE, THE LAST 15 OF WHICH WERE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK. BY FAR THE MOST REWARDING WORK I'VE EVER DONE IN MY CAREER. AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, LOCKED UP MURDERERS, RECOVERED DRUGS. BUT JUST THE THE FEELING OF BEING ABLE TO HELP CHILDREN HAS BEEN THE MOST REWARDING. I PERSONALLY LIKED IT BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOUR POLITICAL BELIEFS OR WHETHER YOU LIKE POLICE OR HATE POLICE, THIS WAS A CRIME THAT EVERYONE GOT BEHIND WAS SAVING CHILDREN. SO BY FAR THE MOST REWARDING WORK THAT I'VE DONE, AUSTIN, I WE KNEW I WAS GOING TO BE RETIRING, SO WE KIND OF HANDPICKED HIM TO TAKE MY SPOT. AUSTIN WENT AND GOT PROMOTED AND NOW HE IS PATROLLING THE MEAN STREETS OF I-95 IN HOWARD COUNTY TEMPORARILY. I'M HOPEFULLY COMING BACK SOON. BUT AGAIN, AUSTIN'S BEEN WORKING WITH ME FOR THE PAST 3 OR 4 YEARS. BUT TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF. AUSTIN. YEP. AUSTIN MUELLER BEEN A TROOPER FOR ALMOST 14 YEARS AND WITH MARYLAND STATE POLICE, I WAS 14 YEARS. I CAME TO A CHILD SEX ABUSE UNIT OF THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE, MET CHRIS HYDE, SAW THE THINGS THAT HE WAS DOING, HELPING OUT KIDS AND LOCKING UP HUMAN TRAFFICKERS AND SAID, OH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO GET BEHIND AND I NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO THAT.

AND THEN JUST WAS VERY PRIVILEGED, PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO BE TRAINED BY CHRIS AND GO OUT THERE AND DO A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS AND HELP A LOT OF REALLY COOL KIDS AND, AND KIND OF LEARN A VERY NASTY UNDER SIDE OF THE SOCIETY. SO VERY GRATEFUL TO BE HERE. SO, SO REAL QUICK, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF IF I KEEP SAYING WE, I APOLOGIZE. IT'S THE FIRST

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SO I CALLED DOWN THERE. IT WAS STILL ASSIGNED TO A PATROL OFFICER WHO I KNEW WASN'T DOING ANYTHING. AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, HEY, LIKE, I SEE THIS MISSING GIRL. LIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP YOU? I SEE SHE HAS TIES TO MARYLAND. HE'S LIKE, HEY, MAN, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO, HIS WORDS KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF. HE'S LIKE, SHE ALWAYS COMES BACK. AND I'M LIKE, BUT IT'S BEEN NINE MONTHS AND SHE'S STILL NOT BACK. SO ANYWAY, IT BASICALLY TOOK AND I DON'T SAY ANYTHING TO BRAG ABOUT THE WORK WE DID BECAUSE THE WORK THAT WE DO IN THIS UNIT I USED TO DO IS IT'S, IT'S JUST TIME, VERY TIME CONSUMING. THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO IS AFTER THE FACT. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT I SPENT ABOUT TWO WEEKS DOING SUBPOENAS THROUGH FACEBOOK. I GET A PHONE NUMBER FROM FACEBOOK, SEND THE FACEBOOK, THE PHONE NUMBER OFF, AND I GET A HIT ON A PROSTITUTION WEBSITE, CONTACT THEM, GET A NEW SUBPOENA OUT, AND I GET A NEW PHONE NUMBER WITH A CURRENT AD THAT'S POSTED IN COLLEGE PARK, MARYLAND. SO WITHIN HOURS WE GO DOWN WITH THE FBI. WE ARREST THE PIMP, WE ARREST THE BOTTOM GIRL, AND WE RECOVER THE JUVENILE WHO HAD BEEN MISSING FOR NINE MONTHS OF EIGHT AND A HALF, WITH WHICH SHE HAD BEEN PROSECUTED, PIMPED OUT BY A PIMP. AND I DON'T SAY THAT TO TO JUST, YOU KNOW, TALK BAD ABOUT THE OFFICER THAT HAD THE CASE. THAT'S JUST THE WAY OLD SCHOOL POLICING WAS. SO AFTER THAT CASE, AND AGAIN, WE WERE JUST A MISSING KID UNIT AT THIS TIME, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT PROSTITUTION WAS. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING WAS. IF YOU ASKED ME WHAT IT WAS, THEN I WOULD SAY, OH, THAT'S LIKE GIRLS THAT DRESS PROVOCATIVELY, MAYBE HANG OUT AT THE STRIP CLUB. I WOULD NEVER IMAGINE THAT IT WAS A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL THAT WAS BEING PIMPED OUT, SO IT KIND OF GOT THE WHEELS GOING. WE GOT REALLY INVOLVED AND WE STARTED THIS THING WITH A VICTIM CENTERED APPROACH WITH THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE. AND IT WAS BASICALLY SAYING LIKE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ARREST THESE PEOPLE. WE'VE MET. I'VE PERSONALLY MET THOUSANDS. AUSTIN'S MET HUNDREDS, IF NOT A THOUSAND. WE GO OUT AND WE MAKE THESE DATES AND WE'RE OUR GOAL IS OUR GOAL WAS MY GOAL WAS WAS TO. NUMBER ONE WAS TO RESCUE CHILDREN. NUMBER TWO WAS TO ASSIST ANYONE THAT NEEDED HELP. AND NUMBER THREE WAS TO ARREST A PIMP OR TRAFFICKER. AND IT WAS IN THAT ORDER. I DIDN'T WANT TO MESS UP ONE AND TWO TO GET TO THREE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. LIKE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PERSON WAS STABLE. SO WE STARTED THIS THING AND WE'RE LIKE, HEY, LET'S GET THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS OUT WITH US. SO WHEN WE GO OUT AND MISS EMHOFF'S BEEN OUT WITH US BEFORE FROM HER PRIOR WORK THAT SHE DID, AND WE WANT THAT HELP OF THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'LL GO OUT, WE MAKE THESE DATES. AND IT'S, IT'S FUNNY GOING INTO THESE ROOMS AND YOU MEET THESE YOUNG LADIES, AND I CAN SAY THAT OUT OF THE THOUSAND THAT I'VE MET, MAYBE ONE HAND THAT I CAN COUNT WHERE I WALKED OUT AND I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? LIKE THAT PERSON ACTUALLY IS DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO IT. IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE OR SOMETIMES SOMETHING, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S SOMEONE THAT'S MAKING THESE THE GIRLS TO DO THIS STUFF. AND SOMETIMES MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO IDENTIFY A TRAFFICKER. BUT IN THE CASES THAT WE DO AND WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOVERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT CASE AND IT REALLY GOES A LONG WAY. ONE OF THE PARTNERSHIPS WE BUILT WITH THE MSP IS WITH THE FBI. WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS WORK WITHOUT THE FBI'S INVOLVEMENT. WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE MOST OF THESE TRAFFICKERS WILL TAKE YOUNG LADIES OR BOYS TO OTHER STATES. SO ANYTHING WITH A NEXUS I 95 PERFECT EXAMPLE. I MEAN, THEY CAN BE FROM NEW YORK DOWN TO VIRGINIA A MATTER OF HOURS. SO WE NEED THOSE CONTACTS. SO I WOULD SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THIS YOUNG LADY THAT'S DOWN IN FLORIDA RIGHT NOW. CAN YOU GIVE ME THE AUSTIN MUELLER OF THE FLORIDA STATE POLICE OR WHATEVER, OR, YOU KNOW, NORTH CAROLINA, WE WANT TO GET THESE OTHER INVESTIGATORS THAT ARE LINKED TOGETHER. AND THE FBI WAS VERY GOOD WITH PROVIDING THAT TYPE OF THING. I HAVE A SLIDE UP HERE WITH THE I DON'T KNOW IF THESE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT. THIS WAS CORRECT AS OF ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 15 TASK FORCE OFFICERS BECAUSE AUSTIN'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. THE NUMBERS HAVE DWINDLED UNFORTUNATELY. SO IT'S DEFINITELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT STAFFING. IT'S SO YEAH, SO WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AVAILABLE

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EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT BEING THEY'RE HELD IN CHAINS LIKE A LOT OF THESE MOVIES PORTRAY, RIGHT? THERE IS THERE IS THIS DRIVE, THERE'S THIS FACTOR, THERE'S THIS FEAR OF IF THEY LEAVE THAT PERSON THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE BEING HELD THERE, RIGHT? THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF HARM THAT IS THAT IS TRAFFICKING RIGHT? BY BY EVERY POINT OF THE WORD WE CAN, WE CAN ARTICULATE THAT THAT IS TRAFFICKING. WE SEE THAT IN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIMES. VERY LITTLE DO WE SEE THE, AGAIN, THE HOLLYWOOD SIDE OF THINGS WHERE IT'S PEOPLE BEING CHAINED IN A BASEMENT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T SEE IT. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S VERY, VERY LITTLE.

WE SEE THE THE FEAR OF THE. FOR ALL THE COERCION OF MAINTAINING THESE VICTIMS BY THESE TRAFFICKERS, AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH AND JUST COMPLETELY READ OFF ALL THE SLIDESHOWS. AND I APOLOGIZE IF THE VIEWERS AT HOME CAN'T SEE IT, BUT I WOULD BE DOING A GREAT DISSERVICE TO YOUR CITIZENS IF I SAT HERE AND TRIED TO READ THE POWERPOINT 30FT AHEAD OF ME. SO ONE OF THE OTHER GREAT THINGS ABOUT WORKING AGAIN WITH THE FEDERAL PARTNERS IS THE FEDERAL LAWS ARE SO MUCH STRICTER, AND THERE'S THAT MINIMUM MANDATORY.

I THINK IT'S AT LEAST TEN YEARS IN MOST CASES 15 YEARS IF IT'S JUVENILE. BUT THOSE THOSE SENTENCES ARE VERY SEVERE. WE INTERVIEW PIMPS AS WELL. AND THE PIMPS WILL TELL YOU BACK WHEN WE INTERVIEW THEM. LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, WE HAD A PIMP ONE DAY THAT HAD 218 YEAR OLD GIRLS WITH HIM. AND TO US, LIKE, YOU'RE DESPICABLE. BUT TO HIM, HE'S LIKE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A KID LIKE I HEARD ABOUT MARILYN. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE REAL STRICT ON KIDS. AND I'M LIKE, SO IT'S 17. IT'S OKAY. I MEAN, 18 IS OKAY, BUT 17 IS PROBLEM. BUT YEAH, THAT'S JUST THE MENTALITY OF THESE, THESE INDIVIDUALS. BUT WE DO LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE FEDERAL LAWS AND I KNOW IN CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW HARFORD COUNTY SPECIFICALLY, BUT I KNOW IN CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS IT IS MORE OF A PENALTY, A SEVERE PENALTY. BUT THE FEDS IS DEFINITELY WITH THE PIMPS ARE WORRIED ABOUT. SO HERE ARE THE VICTIMS. AND I PUT THIS IN HERE AND I WE WE'VE TAUGHT THOUSANDS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HERE IN MARYLAND. WE'VE TAUGHT IN OTHER STATES AS WELL. WE TAUGHT ONE IN ARKANSAS. AND LITERALLY FIVE MINUTES INTO IT, A DEPUTY RAISED HIS HAND. HE SAID, WE ONLY GOT THAT PROBLEM DOWN HERE IN ARKANSAS. AND I WENT UP ON THE WEBSITE AND I PULLED IT UP. AND WITHIN TWO MINUTES, I MEAN, I HAD HUNDREDS OF ADS, PROSTITUTION ADS. AND I SAID TO HIM AT THAT POINT, I WAS LIKE, IF YOU HAVE DRUGS, IF YOU HAVE PROSTITUTION, YOU HAVE HUMAN TRAFFICKING. I DON'T CARE WHERE IT IS. THE ONLY PLACE I CAN SAY THAT I'VE BEEN. WE DID AN OPERATION OUT IN DEEP CREEK LAKE ONCE AND I, WE FOUND LIKE ONE AD, BUT THERE'S STILL SOMETHING GOING ON OUT THERE WHERE WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR. LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT'S BEING ADVERTISED, BUT THE VICTIMS THAT WE TYPICALLY FOCUS ON ARE THE FOSTER YOUTH. WE HAMMER THAT IN, IN OUR TRAININGS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE TAKING MISSING PERSON REPORTS.

AND EVEN WHEN WE DO, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF PRESENTATIONS FOR VICTIM ADVOCATES IS THOSE ARE THE KIDS THAT GET LOST. EVERY SINGLE CASE THAT I'VE WORKED, EVERY JUVENILE VICTIM, AUSTIN'S WORKING AS WELL. IT'S NEVER BEEN A MOM AND A DAD INVOLVED. LIKE PARENTS ARE LIKE, WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP TO PROTECT MY KIDS? I'M LIKE, YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE INVOLVED IN YOUR CHILD'S LIFE. YOU A MAN AND A HUSBAND OR A HUSBAND AND WIFE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. TWO PARENTS, YOU'RE SO FAR AHEAD OF THIS, RIGHT? THE KIDS THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED ARE THE FOSTER YOUTH, BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF THE CASES. AND I ALWAYS USE THE WORD NO CONSTANT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A CONSTANT IN THEIR LIFE. I STILL HAVE A CONSTANT IN MY LIFE. I'M I'M 52, I'M 51, 51 YEARS OLD. I STILL HAVE PARENTS THAT ARE ASKING ME WHERE I AM EVERY DAY. SO I HAVE THAT CONSTANT AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REWARDING, BUT IT ALSO SUCKS WHEN YOU GO INTO A GROUP HOME AS AN OLDER MAN, TWO OLDER WHITE MEN, AND YOU MEET A 15 YEAR OLD YOUNG AFRICAN AMERICAN FEMALE WHO'S IN A GROUP HOME WITH HER PEERS, AND SHE COMES RUNNING ACROSS THE HALLWAY TO GIVE YOU A HUG BECAUSE SHE'S JUST SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU AND YOU FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF. AND YOU'RE LIKE, YOU FEEL REALLY BAD, TOO. LIKE THAT'S WHAT THIS POOR KID'S GOT TO LOOK FORWARD TO. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? NOBODY ELSE PAYS ATTENTION TO HER. NOBODY ELSE ASKED HER A WEEK AGO, WHAT DO YOU WANT? WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE LUNCH? AND SHE SAYS, CHIPOTLE. AND THE NEXT TIME YOU COME, YOU BRING HER CHIPOTLE. SO SHE'S NOT USED TO THAT. AND I WANT TO GET IN ON SOCIAL SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE TEACH THAT AS WELL, BUT LIKE IT JUST NEEDS TO BE THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE, MORE AWARENESS, MORE WORKING WITH CHILDREN. I WAS ON A PANEL WITH SAFE HARBOR AND I KEPT BEATING THE DRUM. THEY'RE LIKE, WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, PASS THE LEGISLATION THAT YOU CAN'T LOCK UP KIDS FOR PROSTITUTION. I'M LIKE, WE'RE NOT. I SAID, CAN WE TALK ABOUT SERVICES? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY LACK HERE IS WE LACK SERVICES FOR THOSE CHILDREN. WE CAN FIND THEM ALL WE WANT. BUT GUESS

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HOW MANY TIMES? FOR THREE, FOUR TIMES? 3 OR 4 TIMES. AND IT JUST IT'S A CONSTANT STRUGGLE TO GET THE HELP THEY NEED. BUT SIDEBAR ANYWAY. BUT MOST OF THE VICTIMS HAVE LOW SELF-ESTEEM. I KIND OF LIKE TO LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA. AND I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND THIS TO SOUND DISRESPECTFUL AT ALL WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR LIKE, OH, THAT GIRL'S A TEN OR THAT GUY, HE'S A TEN. THE PIMPS AND TRAFFICKERS ARE NOT GOING AFTER THE TENS.

THEY'RE GOING AFTER THE ONES AND TWOS. THEY'RE STALKING THESE FACEBOOK PAGES, THESE SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES OF THESE YOUNG LADIES SAY, YOUNG LADIES, IT COULD BE ANYTHING BUT MAINLY THE YOUNG WOMEN WHO DON'T HAVE ANY LIKES. SO IF SHE'S POSTING A SELFIE AND IT'S GOT ZERO LIKES, THAT'S A TARGET BECAUSE ALL IT'S GOING TO TAKE IS THAT PERSON TO SEND A MESSAGE SAYING, HEY, I THINK YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL. AND IT'S THEY'RE HOOKED. AND AGAIN, INDIVIDUALS IMPAIRMENTS.

AND AGAIN, WE SEE LOTS OF MANIPULATION TECHNIQUES, INDIVIDUALS WITH ADDICTION ISSUES. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER BALL GAME TRYING TO GET THOSE PEOPLE HELP BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TREAT THE ADDICTION BEFORE YOU CAN TREAT THE TRAUMA OR VICE VERSA. AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THING THAT'S, THAT'S HARD TO WORK THROUGH. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. SO SOME INDICATORS THAT YOU'LL SEE, WE'LL HARP ON A LOT OF IT. AND I MENTIONED THE LICENSE THING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT JUST NO IDENTIFICATION ON THE, ON THE PERSON. WE TRY TO TEACH THIS A LOT FOR OUR GUYS, ESPECIALLY BEING MARYLAND STATE POLICE. THEY'RE OUT THERE MAKING A TON OF TRAFFIC STOPS, UNDERSTANDABLY SO. AND WE'RE LIKE, HEY, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE WITHIN THE BUILDING, WITHIN A WITHIN A VEHICLE OR WITHIN A SCENE AND THE GUY HAS, YOU KNOW, NUMEROUS IDS OR A LOT OF THE BELONGINGS OF THE FEMALE, THAT THAT'S A CLUE AND JUST KIND OF RAISE THE EYEBROW, RAISE A RED FLAG. BRANDINGS WHEN WE SAY BRANDINGS, WE'RE REFERRING TO TATTOOS, WE DON'T MEAN ACTUAL LIKE BURNT BRANDS, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE SEEN THAT AS WELL. BUT MORE MORE ABOUT CROWNS, POWER, MONEY, RESPECT, AND, AND THE PIMP'S NAME OR WHATEVER THEIR STREET NAME WOULD BE. OR SOME, SOME VARIATION OF THOSE OF THOSE ITEMS WITHIN TATTOOS ON THEIR BODY. IT'S PRETTY EASY FOR US TO ASK THEM. MOST, MOST IN OUR, IN OUR EXPERIENCE, MOST WOMEN ARE PRETTY FORTHCOMING WITH SHOWING US THEIR TATTOOS. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S HOW WE IDENTIFY BODIES AND, AND THAT KIND OF WHEN WE ASK THINGS LIKE, HEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY TATTOOS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO YOU THAT WE CAN SEE TO, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID ANYTHING HAPPENS TO YOU AND THEY AND ALSO AS A GUY WHO HAS A LOT OF TATTOOS, I LIKE TO JUST SHOW OFF MY TATTOOS TOO. SO THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY. BUT ALSO WE TALK ABOUT LIES QUITE OFTEN, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF GET HONED IN ON AND ON COURT PREFERENCES, RIGHT? OR COURT PROCEEDINGS BECAUSE EVERYBODY LIES IS KIND OF, WE DON'T REALLY BELIEVE MANY PEOPLE WHEN WE FIRST WALK INTO A ROOM. FAIRNESS. I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE TALKING TO COPS EITHER. I GET IT, WE UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THAT THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN AND AND WE KIND OF HAVE WAYS TO COMBAT THAT. CHRIS AND I LIKE TO THINK WE'RE FUNNY. SO ANYTIME WE WENT INTO A ROOM, WE ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH AND RELAX THEM A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN THEY'D STOP LYING. AND IT KIND OF TOUCHES ON OUR, OUR FEARFUL THING. OBVIOUSLY, IF THESE THESE YOUNG VICTIMS HERE ARE DOING THIS, THEY'RE SCARED.

THEY'RE WHETHER THEY'RE SCARED OF US OR SCARED OF THE TRAFFICKER OR SCARED OF WHAT THE TRAFFICKER IS GOING TO DO TO THEM IF THEY THINK THEY TALK TO US. IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY STUFF THAT WE'VE WE'VE HAD TO GO WE'VE HAD TO GO AROUND AND IN SOME CASES, EVEN FAKE ARREST GIRLS TO GET THEM OUT AND THEN JUST TAKE THEM TO DINNER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST LET THEM, LET THEM GO FROM THERE. AND UNDER THE, THE GUISE THAT THEY'RE BEEN ARRESTED SO THEIR PIMP DOESN'T GO AFTER THEM AND THEY GET A BREAK. BUT YEAH, SO SOME OF THE DIFFERENT HOTSPOTS AND AGAIN, WE TALKED THE HOTELS AND MOTELS ALONG THE HIGHWAYS, AIRPORTS. BWI IS A MAJOR HUB.

PEOPLE FLY IN AND OUT OF THERE. THEIR PIMPS WILL SEND GIRLS FROM SURPRISINGLY TO ME WAS NEVADA. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE AN EASY ONE. THEY'RE LIKE, NO, NO, LIKE, YOU MAKE MORE MONEY HERE IN THE BALTIMORE METROPOLITAN AREA THAN YOU WOULD IN NEVADA. I THINK AT THIS POINT, MARYLAND. I MEAN, MARYLAND'S LIKE NUMBER FOUR IN THE COUNTRY AS FAR AS MAKING MONEY IN THIS THIS TYPE OF WORK. AGAIN, DRUGS LEAD TO PROSTITUTION, PROSTITUTION LEADS TO TRAFFICKING. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER. AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS EVERYWHERE. IT'S, IT'S IT'S IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I HAVE A SLIDE COMING UP ON THAT. AND I KNOW IN THE INTEREST OF, OF SAVING SOME TIME, I WANT TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THE HOTELS THAT WE GO THROUGH. WE'VE DONE TRAININGS FOR HOTELS.

WE GO IN AND TALK TO THESE HOTELS. WE GET AND AGAIN, EVERYBODY BUYS IN. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER HAVE ISSUES WITH HOTELS COOPERATING WITH US SAYING, HEY, I THINK THIS YOUNG LADY IN THIS ROOM MAY BE A VICTIM OF TRAFFICKING. THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US OUT. SO WE USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE. HOW DO THEY POST THIS STUFF? BACKPAGE USED TO BE THE SITE. BACKPAGE WAS A LEGITIMATE WEBSITE. THEY WERE VERY LAW ENFORCEMENT FRIENDLY. I HATE TO SAY IT OUT LOUD, BUT LIKE WHEN BACKPAGE WENT AWAY, LIKE THE GOVERNMENT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOT INVOLVED AND THEY THEY SHUT IT DOWN. BUT IF WE FOUND LIKE THAT 15 YEAR OLD GIRL THAT I FOUND DOWN IN PRINCE GEORGE'S COUNTY, I SENT AN EMAIL, A SIMPLE EMAIL TO IT WAS RECORDS AT BACKPAGE.COM. I SAID, EXCELLENT REQUEST. HEY, I'M OUT WITH A 14 OR 15 YEAR OLD YOUNG LADY, AND WITHIN FIVE MINUTES I HAD A RESPONSE FROM THEM. SO YEAH, THEY WERE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS IT WAS ONE CENTRAL WEBSITE THAT WAS ALL THESE GIRLS WERE POSTING. SO WE HAD A YOUNG LADY THAT RAN AWAY FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY. WE RECOVERED HER. SHE PUT HER IN PLACEMENT. SHE RUNS

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WE ENDED UP MEETING THESE YOUNG LADY. I SAID, CAN I SEE YOUR TATTOO? SHE PULLED HER HAIR UP AND LIKE THE HAIR ON MY ARM STOOD UP. I WAS LIKE, OH, LIKE WE GOT THIS GUY NOW BECAUSE SHE HAD TOLD US SHE GIVES A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS VERY VALUABLE TO SENTENCING THIS YOUNG MAN TO LIKE 15 YEARS IN PRISON AGAIN, SOME MORE. THIS WAS A DATE WE MADE AT A HOTEL.

WE WENT DOWN TO THE FRONT DESK, HEY, WE'RE IN THIS ROOM. THIS GIRL WAS LIKE 19. I'M LIKE, OH, YEAH, SHE CHECKED IN WITH ANOTHER GIRL. SHE'S IN ANOTHER ROOM. WE WENT UP TO THAT YOUNG ROOM TO THAT ROOM, KNOCKED ON THAT DOOR, SAME EXACT TATTOO. THEY SWORE UP AND DOWN. THEY DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER. BUT AGAIN, THEY WERE SO SCARED OF THESE PIMPS. THIS WAS A PIMP THAT WAS OUT OF TOLEDO, OHIO, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PUT INFORMATION TOGETHER THAT GOT HIM SENTENCED OUT THERE SHOWING THAT HE WAS THAT HE TRANSPORTED VICTIMS TO ANOTHER STATE. AND HE HAD FEDERAL A FEDERAL CASE OUT THERE. SOME OF THE EVIDENCE YOU SEE IN THE INTEREST OF THERE WERE LIKE 20 MINUTES NOW, BUT OBVIOUSLY CONDOMS, SOME JOURNALS, LUBRICANTS, PHYSICAL NEGLECT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS DO WHEN WE GO IN IS AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A VICTIM IS WE SAY, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU ATE? BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE TIME, THESE GIRLS HAVE WHAT THEY CALL A QUOTA. IT'S EITHER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY REQUIRED TO MAKE OR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DATES THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. SO WE SAY LIKE, I JUST, CAN I SEE YOUR MONEY? BECAUSE IF I DON'T SEE MONEY, YOU CLEARLY ALREADY TOLD US YOU MADE 3 OR 4 DATES TODAY. I DON'T WANT YOUR MONEY. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR MONEY. BUT IF YOU HAVE MONEY, THAT'S GOOD FOR ME TO SAVE. IF YOU DON'T, THEN I'M PRETTY SURE YOU HAVE A PIMP. SO WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS TIMES WHERE WE'VE GONE LIKE WE HAVEN'T EATEN DINNER YET. LET'S GET A PIZZA. AND THE GIRL'S LIKE, I HAVEN'T EATEN IN TWO DAYS. OKAY, COOL. LET'S SIT DOWN. I HAVE A PIZZA ROLL, SIT ON THE FLOOR AND EAT A PIZZA WHILE THE GIRL SITS IN THE CHAIR. AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BUILD RAPPORT. WE'RE TRYING TO GET AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE IF WE CAN, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE MAKE SURE SHE'S OKAY. OFTEN BROUGHT UP FAKE ARRESTING. WE'VE DONE THAT NUMEROUS TIMES WHERE I'M LIKE, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME. I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE A PIMP SITTING DOWN IN THE CAR IN THE PARKING LOT. LET'S DO THIS. HOW ABOUT I THROW YOU IN HANDCUFFS? WE'LL PUT YOU IN MY CAR, BECAUSE HE AIN'T GOING TO BELIEVE THAT THE POLICE SHOWED UP AND DIDN'T ARREST YOU, RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING TO THINK YOU DIDN'T GET ARRESTED. IF THEY'RE GOING TO THINK THAT YOU ROBBED THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE STEALING MONEY. SO WE'VE DONE THESE THINGS BEFORE WHERE I'M LIKE, LET'S PUT YOU IN HANDCUFFS. LET'S GET YOU OUT OF HERE. AS FAR AS HE KNOWS, YOU'RE YOU'VE BEEN ARRESTED. THE OTHER THING IS, WHILE WE'RE SITTING THERE SOMETIMES MAKING THESE DATES AND I MISS HIM, CAN ATTEST TO THIS, THAT PHONE WILL START RINGING AND IT'LL SAY, DADDY. AND I'M LIKE, I KNOW WHO THAT IS. LIKE, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO TELL ME WHO IT IS. I KNOW WHO IT IS. LET ME JUST SAY THIS. WE'RE IN THIS ROOM, WHETHER WE ARE POLICE OFFICERS OR YOU'RE IN HERE BEATING YOUR BUTT. HE'S NOT COMING BACK. AND I, IN 15 YEARS, NEVER ONCE HAS A PIMP COME BACK TO A ROOM. THEY'RE LONG GONE. SO WE USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE AS WELL TO SHOW THESE THESE YOUNG LADIES THAT THESE MEN ARE NOT YOUR BOYFRIENDS. THEY'RE NOT.

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU. WE'VE HAD OTHER GIRLS THAT WILL SAY, NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

LIKE I GET MY NAILS DONE, I GET MY HAIR DONE. HE BUYS ALL THAT FOR ME. I'M LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? WELL, HE HE BUYS IT FOR ME. I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S HIS JOB? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE, WHAT IS HIS JOB? LIKE? YOU'RE TELLING ME HE'S GETTING YOUR NAILS, GET YOUR HAIR DONE. BUT YOU MADE THAT MONEY AND YOU GAVE IT TO HIM AND HE GAVE YOU MONEY BACK. AND THEN IT'S JUST LIKE THIS MANIPULATION THAT THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY'RE LIKE, FINALLY, LIKE A LIGHT BULB. LIKE, OH MY GOD, LIKE I'M BEING MANIPULATED. SO WE AGAIN, THINGS THAT WE USE TO OUR ADVANTAGE, PHYSICAL TRAUMA. WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALL DAY. THE MENTAL TRAUMA IS A WHOLE NOTHER THING. THIS CASE THAT AUSTIN'S WORKING RIGHT NOW. IT WAS A YOUNG LADY THAT WAS RECOVERED, A JUVENILE AT A HOTEL IN BALTIMORE COUNTY, AUSTIN. DID.

I RETIRED A COUPLE DAYS LATER. AUSTIN'S DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB IN THIS CASE. ENDS UP GETS A WARRANT FOR TWO PIMPS. AND WHEN HE LOCKS UP THE PIMP, GUESS WHAT HE'S GOT WITH HIM? ANOTHER JUVENILE. SO AGAIN, THAT TRAUMA THAT THIS YOUNG LADY AND I'VE MET HER AND THAT GIRL'S GOT A LONG ROAD AHEAD OF HER. AND THE THING THAT SUCKS IS WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HELP HER.

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I'M SORRY. YOU WANT TO JUMP IN? NO. THIS IS WHEN WE INTERVIEW VICTIMS AGAIN. I SAID BEFORE, CHRIS, AND I LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'RE PRETTY FUNNY. SO WE TRY TO UTILIZE HUMOR TO BREAK THROUGH BARRIERS. IT'S REALLY TOUGH. THESE THESE KIDS, A LOT OF THESE VICTIMS, THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH MORE GROTESQUE THINGS THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. AND WE FIND THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY GO UNDER. THEY'RE THINKING LIKE WEARING A UNIFORM AND THEN THINKING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD REACTION OUT OF PEOPLE. YOU GOT TO BE HUMAN. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WORST DAY OF THEIR LIFE. ALL THE TIMES THAT THEY SEE A COP. AND THAT'S NOT GOOD, RIGHT? SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE TREAT THEM ALL WITH RESPECT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO BE DOING IN THEIR LIFE, RIGHT? DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DISRESPECT THEM IN ANY WAY. WE JUST TRY TO BE HUMOR. WE DON'T JUDGE THEM. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THAT. WE JUST TRY TO HELP THEM THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN HELP THEM. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST GETTING THEM RESOURCES. AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, ESPECIALLY EVEN MORE SO WITH OUR JUVENILES, WE FOLLOW UP. A LOT OF OUR JOB IS SPENT GOING BACK AND JUST SPENDING TIME. IT'S JUST GENUINELY JUST TAKING AN INTEREST IN PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS FORTUNATE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT YOU HOPE THEY HAVE A GREAT OUTCOME AND THEY CAN KIND OF SPREAD THE WEALTH TO SOMEBODY ELSE. WE HAD AN INTERVIEW THIS MORNING WITH A YOUNG GIRL WHO WAS IN THE SYSTEM AND IS LUCKILY GOT RESOURCES, AND SHE'S GOING TO SHE'S IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING HER MASTER'S DEGREE FOR SOCIAL WORKING DEGREE. SO THAT WAY SHE CAN GO BACK AND HELP THE VICTIMS THAT LIKE, LIKE HER. AND IT'S JUST IT'S BEEN VERY REWARDING. BUT IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WIND UP IN THIS, THEY ARE WORTH, THEY'RE WORTH SAVING. IT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN, THAN, THAN HALF OF SOCIETY EVEN KNOWS. AND WE TEACH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SOCIAL WORKERS ESPECIALLY IS THE FOLLOW UP THING IS LIKE, IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE DONE. LIKE YOU'RE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PERSON THAT LET THAT CHILD DOWN. SO IF YOU TELL THEM YOU'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE YOU BETTER. AND IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE DONE. YOU BETTER, YOU BETTER AT LEAST MAKE A PHONE CALL AGAIN. I HAVE SOME PHOTOS HERE. SOME OF THE VICTIMS, NOTHING SPECIFIC. IT'S ALL DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'VE RUN ACROSS. WE'VE GOTTEN YOUNG GIRLS AS YOUNG AS 12 AND AS OLD AS 76, 76. NOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES OF THE FIVE THAT SAID THAT SHE CAME UP FROM TEXAS BECAUSE SHE NEEDED INSULATION FOR HER HOME. AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE HAD A LOT OF MEN UP HERE THAT PAID HER FOR THAT. AGAIN, WE DIDN'T TREAT ANY DIFFERENTLY. WE OFFERED HER RESOURCES, BUT SHE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR SO LONG.

BUT BUT YEAH, 12 YEARS OLD WAS ACTUALLY THE PIMP'S IDEA WAS THAT HE HAD NO IDEA, EVEN THOUGH HER IDEA OF FUN WAS COLORING IN A COLORING BOOK. I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT MASSAGE PARLORS. WE DON'T DO A LOT OF WORK WITH MASSAGE PARLORS BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR CHILDREN. I DON'T KNOW OF A CASE ANYWHERE RECENTLY WHERE WE'VE HAD CHILDREN LOCATED IN A MASSAGE PARLOR, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THAT, AGAIN, IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EVERYWHERE. I DO KNOW THAT THEY JUST RECENTLY HAD SOMETHING UP HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY, AND THEY DO. I KNEW THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. GET THROUGH HERE. SO SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THIS IS LIKE PROBABLY ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES HERE. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T DO THIS WORK WITHOUT VICTIM PARTNERS. VICTIM ADVOCATES. I WILL SAY IN CLOSING, ONE OF THE THE MOST REWARDING CASE THAT I'VE EVER HAD DID NOT INVOLVE AN ARREST. IT INVOLVED A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS 23 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME THAT I ENCOUNTERED HER.

SHE WAS BEING TRAFFICKED, QUITE OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT TOOK ABOUT FOUR INTERACTIONS WITH HER BEFORE WE FINALLY GOT HER TO GET THE HELP THAT SHE NEEDED. SHE ENDED UP. SHE HAD A. SHE WAS A. AND SHE WAS COMING FROM A VERY WELL. FAMILY UP IN MONKTON, MARYLAND, WENT TO A VERY PRESTIGIOUS HIGH SCHOOL, ENDED UP AT A VERY NICE COLLEGE, HAD A CAR ACCIDENT, AND ENDED UP ON. PAIN MEDICATION. PAIN MEDICATION GOT CUT OFF. SHE ENDS UP DOWN IN BALTIMORE AND GETS HOOKED UP WITH A GUY FOR OXYCONTIN AND THEN HEROIN. HE STARTS PIMPING HER OUT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. LONG STORY SHORT, AGAIN, WE JUST STAYED AT IT, KEPT MAINTAINING CONTACT, KEPT INTERVIEWING HER, KEPT MEETING WITH HER, HAD OTHER DETECTIVES MEET WITH HER TO THE POINT WHERE SHE FINALLY SAID, OKAY, I WANT TO GET THE HELP I NEED. SHE WENT AWAY FOR NINE MONTHS AND DID FANTASTIC, DID AMAZING ACTUALLY, AND I NEVER. I KNEW THE PIMP WAS, BUT SHE NEVER WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT. I SAID, IT'S FINE. LIKE THE BIGGEST THING IS YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED. FAST FORWARD TO LAST SEPTEMBER. I WAS INVITED TO A WEDDING. MY WIFE AND I WERE INVITED TO OUR WEDDING WHERE SHE MET A YOUNG MAN WHO'S FACING SIMILAR STRUGGLES, AND THEY'RE DOING REMARKABLY WELL. I JUST GOT A TEXT TWO MONTHS AGO THAT SHE HAD HER FIRST CHILD. I ASKED HER IF SHE DIDN'T NAME IT CHRISTINA AT MY REQUEST, BUT SHE'S DOING FANTASTIC. I STILL TO THIS DAY, KEEP IN CONTACT WITH THIS YOUNG LADY WHO I MET IN 2015. IT DOESN'T COST ME ANYTHING OTHER THAN SOME TIME ON THE PHONE. I DIDN'T PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT OTHER THAN SHOWING COMPASSION. LAST SLIDE HERE. WE PICKED UP THIS YOUNG LADY. THIS

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WE STILL ALSO KEEP IN TOUCH. SHE'S GOT THE HELP SHE NEEDS. SHE ACTUALLY GOT IT ADOPTED AT AGE 17.5 YEARS OLD IN FREDERICK COUNTY. AND WE WERE INVITED TO THAT AS WELL. SO AGAIN, JUST DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. IT IS HERE. AND AGAIN, THE STATE POLICE WOULD, WOULD OFTEN GETS BACK, WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP YOU. AND THERE'S AUSTIN'S INFORMATION.

AUSTIN IS AT THE WATERLOO BARRACK IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL AND TALK. HE LOVES TO CHAT ON THE PHONE. SO IF YOU JUST GOOGLE THE WATERLOO BARRACK, YOU'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ON THE PHONE AS WELL. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US. SO THANK YOU FOR INVITING US, ME ESPECIALLY. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATION TO THE KIDS. I MEAN, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. YOU SAID 30 YEARS, 14 YEARS FOR YOU, AUSTIN. THAT'S AMAZING. BUT WHEN YOU GO HOME AT NIGHT, HOW DO YOU GET AWAY FROM IT? I THINK IT'S MY WARPED SENSE OF HUMOR. IT'S LIKE I USE THAT KIND OF LIKE A, I THINK A SHIELD. LIKE I JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IT'S, I TRY TO SEE THE BEST IN EVERYBODY. AND LIKE, AND AGAIN, I THINK AUSTIN'S DONE THE SAME THING IS LIKE WE TRY NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT. LIKE WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO AND SEE THESE THINGS. IT'S HORRIBLE. BUT I THINK THEN SEEING THE POSITIVE IMPACT YOU HAVE, I THINK IT MAKES IT THAT MUCH EASIER. BUT MY WIFE KNOWS NOT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. SO WHEN I HAVE IN MOST CASES, I HAVE A 45 MINUTE TO AN HOUR RIDE HOME, SO I HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DECOMPRESS THINKING OF THAT. I MEAN, MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD I'LL NEED SOME HELP, I DON'T KNOW. BUT RIGHT NOW I FEEL LIKE I'M OKAY. I CAN ATTEST TO THAT. CHRIS NEEDS HELP IMMEDIATELY, BUT HAVING HAVING A SUPPORTIVE SPOUSE, I COULDN'T IMAGINE DOING THIS WITHOUT A SUPPORTIVE SPOUSE AT HOME TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. JUST WORK IN CHILD CRIMES FOR AS LONG AS WE BOTH HAVE. AND THEN DEALING WITH KIDS THAT HAVE BEEN ABUSED SEXUALLY AND PHYSICALLY AT THE EXTENTS OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU DEVELOP A WARPED SENSE OF HUMOR AND IT'S REALLY HARD NOT TO SIT HERE AND CRACK JOKES THIS ENTIRE TIME, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT GETS LIKE WAY TOO SERIOUS. SO BUT BUT NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S VERY REWARDING. SO IT KIND OF HELPS. WELL, I RECENTLY WAS ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND I WASN'T REALLY PREPARED TO ANSWER IT FULLY BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

AND WHEN I CAME BACK TO THE OFFICE AND I SPOKE TO BOTH ALISON AND NALANDA, THEY BOTH SAID, OH, WELL, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT. AND SO THAT BROUGHT US TO TONIGHT. SO, ALISON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT. SURE. SO HARFORD COUNTY IS SOMETIMES A VERY OLD SCHOOL COUNTY. AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE THAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS HERE.

THE YOUNG LADY WHO WAS JUST RECOVERED THIS PAST FALL THAT YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THE CASE. SHE WAS A RUNAWAY FROM HARFORD COUNTY AND SHE HAD BEEN MISSING. WE FOUND HER IN SEPTEMBER AND SHE HAD BEEN MISSING SINCE MAY, AND PEOPLE STOPPED LOOKING FOR HER. AFTER A MONTH, SHE WAS IN A HOTEL IN TOWSON. SHE WAS A YOUNG LADY WHO HAS A LOT OF ISSUES, BUT SHE WAS A REALLY SWEET YOUNG. SHE IS A VERY SWEET YOUNG LADY. AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT, ESPECIALLY AUSTIN. YOU GUYS HAVE MAINTAINED A REALLY GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH HER. SHE'S GOT A LOT OF ISSUES. THEY GIVE ME GRIEF BECAUSE I WAS OUT WITH THEM EARLIER THAT EVENING, AND THEN I ENDED UP LEAVING BEFORE THEY TOOK HER TO A PLACEMENT OUT IN FREDERICK, HAGERSTOWN, HAGERSTOWN. AND I DIDN'T GO ALONG WITH THEM FOR THAT RIDE, BUT THEY HAVE MAINTAINED REMARKABLE RELATIONSHIP WITH HER. AND I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT CASE, BUT YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO GET CHARGES PRESSED AGAINST TWO TRAFFICKERS IN TWO SEPARATE STATES. FOR ONE YOUNG LADY WHO ENDED UP, YOU END UP RECOVERING ANOTHER YOUTH.

YEAH, THAT CASE IS WE CAN'T TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT IT. IT'S STILL ONGOING. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL VICTIMS. IT'S KIND OF IT'S STILL BEING WORKED. IT'S. BUT IT WAS A YOUNG LADY, A TEENAGER, ONE OF OUR TEENAGERS. AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THEM. THE IRONY OF THAT CASE IS WE HAD GONE OUT THAT NIGHT AND WE WERE KIND OF WRAPPING THINGS UP. AND AUSTIN JUST HAPPENED TO BE SCROLLING THROUGH ADS, AND WE WERE PARKED IN A PARKING LOT AND HE GOES, OH, I GOT ONE HERE. SO YOU CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT IT WAS RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME. BUT THEY'VE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB WITH THAT CASE, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING A CONCLUSION TO IT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU NALANDA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

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LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU USING NOW? SO WE'D HAVE TO REACH OUT AND LIKE, LEARN FROM THEM. LIKE, WHAT APPS ARE YOU USING? I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT'S HIDDEN, LIKE SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE ON LIKE SNAPCHAT NOW OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, LIKE ONLYFANS, WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT THAT. BUT THE THAT GETS YOU HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THAT.

YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. AND THEN YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE LIKE AN UNDERCOVER IDENTITY ON THERE.

SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME. I THINK IT'S JUST THE, THE LIGHT THAT'S BEING SHINED ON IT IS SO MUCH GREATER, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, YOU KNOW? AND AGAIN, LIKE WE TALKED TO THE PIMP AND HE'S LIKE, I DON'T MESS WITH KIDS IN MARYLAND. LIKE, OKAY, BUT IT'S OKAY. LIKE, BUT JUST EVEN THAT'S A WIN. YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT THAT GUY'S LIKE, YEAH, I DON'T, I'M NOT TAKING MY CHANCES. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN, I THINK WE CAN SAY THAT WE'VE SEEN AN UPTICK IN KIND OF A QUASI TRAFFICKING OF JUST PEDOPHILIA.

AND LIKE DAD'S PROSTITUTING THEIR DAUGHTERS WITH OTHER PEDOPHILES. I MEAN, I TRAFFICKING IN A SENSE. SO YOU CAN GET THOSE CHARGES, WE CAN GO AFTER THAT SIDE OF THINGS.

WE SEE THAT HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY OVER OVER TIME. EVEN JUST THE LAST EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN DOING CHILD SEX CRIMES, CHILD SEX ABUSE, THAT'S BEEN VERY PREVALENT. BUT I AGREE WITH CHRIS IN THE SENSE OF THE, THE MORE TYPICAL COMMERCIAL SEX TRAFFICKING IS.

I THINK IT'S JUST GETTING A LOT MORE PRESS, WHICH IS GOOD, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING UP ANY. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS, DO YOU THINK THE AVERAGE AGE HAS GONE DOWN? I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF 11 YEAR OLD AND 12 YEAR OLDS ARE MORE INVOLVED IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND ACTUALLY DOING A LOT MORE TEXTING OF OLDER GENTLEMEN TO GET THAT WHERE MY FOSTER CARE KIDS, WHAT I USED TO WORK WITH WANTED WAS THE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. THEY WEREN'T GETTING IT AT HOME, SO THEY WERE LOOKING FOR LOVE IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES. TECHNICALLY. DO YOU SEE THAT AGE GOING DOWN? I THINK SO, I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK WHEN I FIRST STARTED DOING THIS BACK IN 2011, I MEAN, IT WAS NEW THEN. I MEAN, IT'S ONLY BEEN A FEW YEARS, BUT I THINK NOW LIKE, YES, THE AGES HAVE COME DOWN BECAUSE I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY GIRLS THAT ARE SEXUALIZED AT A YOUNG AGE. AND AGAIN, AGAIN, YOUR FOSTER KIDS ARE JUST, THEY'RE JUST NOT BEING MONITORED LIKE, AND AGAIN, EVEN TEACHING INTERNET SAFETY CLASSES, IT'S LIKE, WHAT CAN I DO? AND I'M LIKE, JUST, JUST BEING THAT INVOLVED IN YOUR LIFE, CHECK YOUR KID'S PHONE ONCE IN A WHILE JUST TO TRY AND STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING. BUT YES, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. OKAY. AND DO YOU FEEL LIKE ANY OF THEM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY DATA ON RETURNS HOME TO ACTUAL FAMILY MEMBERS, OR DO THEY END UP USUALLY JUST THE, THE UNFORTUNATELY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE GIRLS AGE OUT OF THE SYSTEM. OKAY. AND WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE BECAUSE I THINK THEY CAN STAY IN 2021, WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE THAT. I'M LIKE, LISTEN, LIKE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY USE THE WORD PLAY THE GAME, BUT I'M LIKE, LOOK, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT YOU LIKE, LIKE, JUST STAY IN THAT SYSTEM AS LONG AS YOU CAN AND A LOT WILL. BUT SOME UNFORTUNATELY, LIKE AS SOON AS I TURN 18, I'M CHECKING MYSELF OUT AND THEN THE CYCLE REPEATS AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY. AND WE HAVE ONE THAT'S RECENTLY UP THIS WAY THAT WAS PLACED UP HERE, AND I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO STAY. I THOUGHT WE HAD HER CONVINCED THAT AT 18 IN 1 DAY SHE WAS GONE. SO YEAH, I THINK I DON'T KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY. I THINK IT'S HIT AND MISS. I THINK IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE CHILD. AND THEN WHATEVER ASSETS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SOCIAL WORKERS ARE ABLE TO GET TO THEM TO HOPEFULLY MAKE A GOOD ENOUGH IMPACT FOR HIM TO STAY. IT'S VERY RARE, THOUGH, THAT I MEAN, IT'S VERY RARE TO HAVE ONE WITH A FAMILY THAT IS INVOLVED IN IT TO BEGIN WITH. THE YOUNG LADY THAT I BROUGHT UP THAT I WENT TO THE WEDDING, THAT WAS VERY RARE. AND AGAIN, SHE WAS 23 AT THE TIME THAT WE MET HER. I THINK SHE'S ABOUT 30 NOW. YEAH.

HER AGE. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, MR. BENNETT? YEAH. THANK YOU

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AND I THINK AS SOON AS YOU SAY THAT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, OKAY, I'M AN ADULT, I'M LIKE, OKAY, COOL. LOOK, ALL I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS LIKE, DON'T PUT ME OUT THERE. LIKE, PLEASE DON'T PUT US OUT THERE ON BLAST THAT WE'RE OUT HERE. DON'T BURN OUR PHONE NUMBERS. AND THEY WILL SOMETIMES, BUT UNLESS THEY HAVE A WARRANT, WE TELL THEM THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT BEING PLACED UNDER ARREST. SO I THINK, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING, LIKE PEOPLE RALLY BEHIND THAT. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING THAT YOU'RE OUT HERE LOOKING FOR POLICE OFFICERS. AND THERE'S, THERE'S MESSAGE BOARDS OUT THERE THAT THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TALK ON AS WELL. AND YOU'LL SEE IT. THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THESE GUYS ARE ACTUALLY REALLY COOL.

LIKE, THEY'RE NOT HERE TO ARREST YOU. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR KIDS. AND WE, AGAIN, WE LEAVE OUR PHONE NUMBER AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. AND LIKE THE LAST SIX MONTHS I WAS LEAVING AUSTIN, IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M LIKE, I'M GONE, BUT IT'S LIKE, JUST IF YOU SEE THIS, CALL US BECAUSE WE ARE INTERESTED. AND IT'S INTERESTING, LIKE WE'D LIKE TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL WHEN WE LEAVE BECAUSE LIKE, I STILL THINK THAT UNTIL THEY CLOSE THAT DOOR, THEY'RE LIKE, THESE COPS ARE STILL LYING TO ME. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO ARREST ME. AND THEN FINALLY, WHEN THEY CLOSE THE DOOR, THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T ARREST ME BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN TREATED IN THE PAST IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN ARRESTED FOR. YES. FOR WHAT? PROSTITUTION. OKAY. WHAT HAPPENED? AND THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING THIS. AGAIN, WE GOT A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. I'M LIKE, THIS IS THE WAY I'M SAYING WE'RE DOING IT IS WE'RE NOT ARRESTING THESE GIRLS. WE ARE LITERALLY GOING IN. WE'RE TRYING TO OFFER SERVICES. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM THE HELP THEY NEED TO STOP IT. BUT OTHER JURISDICTIONS DID ARREST AND WE USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE. WE I TAUGHT A TRAINING IN SALISBURY, AND BEFORE I GOT ACROSS THE BRIDGE, I WAS GETTING A CALL SAYING, DID YOU TELL THEM THEY COULDN'T? I'M LIKE, NO, IT'S A LAW. YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ARREST. I SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE DO AND THIS IS WHAT WORKS FOR US. AND IT'S BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL WITH INFORMATION. WE'VE RECOVERED NUMEROUS KIDS BASED OFF OF ADULT GIRLS IN THE IN THE GAME THAT HAVE PROVIDED INFORMATION TO US. SO WE USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE. SO, SO YES, AS FAR AS BEING LIKE BURNED OR NOW WE DON'T, I MEAN, AND WE'RE ALL OVER THE STATE TOO. NOW, IF WE'RE IN A SMALL JURISDICTION, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE ALL OVER THE STATE. SO WE MIGHT BE WE I'M NOT ANYMORE. IT MIGHT BE IN SALISBURY ONE DAY AND FREDERICK THE NEXT DAY. SO IT'S A YOU KNOW, IT'S A BROADER. AND THANKS TO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FBI THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE ABLE TO SWAP OUT VEHICLES PRETTY REGULARLY IF WE WOULD LIKE. AND THEN JUST THE NATURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, THEY DON'T REALLY SEE US UNTIL THEY OPEN THE DOOR. A LOT OF TIMES THE PIMPS ARE POSTING THE ADS, MAKING THE CHATS, TEXTING US BACK AND FORTH. WHEN WE'RE DOING IT. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY EASIER, OBVIOUSLY, TO OBSCURE YOURSELF AND, YOU KNOW, IN AN ONLINE PRESENCE, BUT BY THE TIME WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER, RIGHT? IF THEY DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOOR, WE'LL WAIT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT REALLY HARD TO GET THROUGH THAT BARRIER, IF YOU WILL. AND WE ONLY HAD THE ONE THAT DIDN'T OPEN THE DOOR. SHE JUMPED OUT. SHE JUMPED OUT THE WINDOW. YEAH. THE OTHER ONES, THEY OPEN THE DOOR. SO AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT I THINK THE ACRONYM IS C S A M.

LIKE CHILD SEX, SEXUAL ABUSE MATERIAL. YES. IS THERE OVERLAP IN THE, LIKE PRODUCTION OF THAT CONTENT AND THIS WORK AND LIKE, DO YOU FIND THAT OFTEN IT'S THE SAME KIDS THAT ARE BEING ABUSED IN THAT WAY TOO? WAIT, THAT'S KIND OF A LOADED, THAT'S A BIT OF A LOADED ONE, WHICH WE COULD PROBABLY DEFINITELY, WE COULD DEFINITELY TALK OFFLINE MUCH CLEARER AS SOON AS WE START GETTING INTO THE CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE MATERIAL. IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND MAINTAIN LIKE A CLEAN PRESENTATION FOR FOLKS AT HOME, JUST BECAUSE THE NATURE OF IT IS GROTESQUE. BUT. THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN PEDOPHILIA AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. NOW, IF YOU ARE PAYING TO HAVE SEX WITH WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS AN UNDERAGE PERSON, THE LIKELIHOOD OF YOU RECORDING THAT, IF YOU'RE AWARE, IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER AND THEN OBJECTIFYING THAT VICTIM ALL OVER THE INTERNET THAT THEY, THEY TYPICALLY OFTEN GO BACK AND SELL IT. AND WE INVESTIGATE THAT SIDE OF IT. AND SOMETIMES OUR CASES COME THROUGH THROUGH THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN, NICK, NICK FOR SHORT. AND THEN BASED OFF OF CSAM. AND WE'RE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE IT THAT WAY. BUT AGAIN, FOR THE PURPOSES OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I DON'T THINK YOU WANT ME TALKING ABOUT THAT STUFF. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, I WILL, BUT I GOTTA WARN YOU, IT'S BAD. YEAH, I DREW A LINE AT THAT. I WAS LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GET THAT KIND OF. I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS THE SAME POPULATIONS OF CHILDREN. I UNDERSTAND, SIR, I UNDERSTAND AGAIN, IT'S A IT'S A LOADED QUESTION. AND AGAIN, AS AS MISS EMHOFF HAS COME OUT WITH US, WE LIKE TO OPEN OUR DOORS IN OUR ARMS WILLINGLY. IF ANYBODY EVER WANTS TO COME ON OUT AND SEE THE DIFFERENT SIDE OF SOCIETY AND KIND OF GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR YOURSELF, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BENNETT. ANYONE ELSE? GENTLEMEN, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDE OUR

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AGENDA NUMBER SEVEN APPROVAL OF MINUTES. LEGISLATIVE DAY 20 5-0

[7. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

[9. INTRODUCTION OF BILLS ]

[15. COMMENTS AND INPUT FROM ATTENDING CITIZENS ]

EVERY YEAR, THE COUNTY SENDS A LIST OF INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED PROJECTS TO THE STATE FOR CONSIDERATION OF STATE AND OR FEDERAL FUNDING. THE PROJECTS ARE LISTED IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE TO THE OVERALL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK IN THE COUNTY. A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO, A PROJECT WAS ADDED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST REQUESTING FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION ADMINISTRATION FTA GRANT FUNDING TO ACQUIRE, LAND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT A NEW HARFORD TRANSIT LINK OPERATIONS CENTER AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY TO REPLACE THE AGING, DETERIORATING AND INSUFFICIENTLY SIZED AND POORLY LOCATED CURRENT FACILITY. THIS PROJECT, ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER PROJECT ON THE LIST, HAS RECEIVED BROAD SUPPORT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, FROM THE HARVARD DELEGATION TO ANNAPOLIS AND FROM THIS COUNCIL. UNTIL THIS YEAR, THIS REQUEST FOR FTA FUNDING WILL GO A LONG WAY TO SUPPORT THE SERVICES OF HARFORD TRANSIT LINK BY PROVIDING A BUILDING THAT IS CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING THOSE SERVICES, A BUILDING THAT CAN ADEQUATELY STORE, REPAIR AND MAINTAIN OUR COUNTY BUSSES WHILE PROVIDING SUFFICIENT AND SAFE PARKING FOR OUR LINK EMPLOYEES. A BUILDING IN A LOCATION THAT DOESN'T STOP TRAFFIC QUITE LITERALLY, ANY TIME A BUS NEEDS TO COME OR GO. A BUILDING THAT ALLOWS TRANSIT LINK TO BETTER SERVE ITS CLIENTS RIGHT HERE IN HARFORD COUNTY, MANY OF WHOM ARE STUDENTS, SENIORS, DISABLED OR DISADVANTAGED. WHAT IT DOES NOT DO IS EXPAND MTA SERVICES FROM BALTIMORE CITY AND COUNTY INTO HARFORD. NOR DOES IT EXPAND THE LINK SERVICES TO OUT OF COUNTY DESTINATIONS. SUPPORT FOR THIS GRANT REQUEST IS SUPPORT FOR TRANSIT LINK. IT. SUPPORT FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT SUPPORT FOR HARFORD COUNTY RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT SPEAKER MATTHEW BROWN. GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MATTHEW BROWN, 1837. STILL POND WAY. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNED. EVERYONE. HARFORD COUNTY, REGARDLESS OF PARTY.

OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN A SUSTAINED POLITICAL PRESSURE CAMPAIGN AIMED AT OUR SCHOOLS, OUR OFFICIALS AND OUR LOCAL INSTITUTIONS. A LARGE PART OF

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PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO CRITICIZE AND SPEAK TO THE GOVERNMENT AND RAISE CONCERNS.

PART OF OUR GREAT DEMOCRACY. WHEN A PRIVATE LAW FIRM LOCATED OUTSIDE OUR COUNTY BEGINS RUNNING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE A POLITICAL MESSAGING OPERATION AIMED AT SHAPING PUBLIC OPINION AND INFLUENCE THE DIRECTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT, IT RAISES SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS BECAUSE HARFORD COUNTY GOVERNMENT SHOULD ULTIMATELY ANSWER TO THE VOTERS WHO LIVE HERE, NOT THE PRESSURE OF CAMPAIGNS THAT ORIGINATE BEYOND OUR BORDERS. WE OFTEN HEAR A SLOGAN KEEP BALTIMORE POLICIES AND CRIME OUT OF HARFORD COUNTY. IF WE BELIEVE THAT SLOGAN, THEN IT SHOULD ALSO BE AS IMPORTANT TO KEEP BALTIMORE COUNTY POLITICAL PRESSURES OUTSIDE OF HARFORD COUNTY. BECAUSE LET ME ASK THIS HONEST QUESTION. I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT THIS IF THE ROLES ARE REVERSED. AND THERE WAS A LIBERAL LAW FIRM FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY POSTING DAILY POLITICAL MESSAGES TARGETING OUR OFFICIALS, AMPLIFYING CONTROVERSIES AND PROMOTING WILL BE CONSIDERED DEMOCRATIC TALKING POINTS ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR GOVERNMENT. WOULD THAT BE CELEBRATED? WHAT YOU'LL BE RAISING ALARMS ABOUT OUTSIDE INFLUENCE AND MANIPULATION? BECAUSE THE PRINCIPLE SHOULD NOT CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHO YOU AGREE WITH POLITICALLY. HARFORD COUNTY DESERVES DEBATE AND FAIR, TRANSPARENT AND GROUNDED IN FACTS. WHAT SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED AS A POLITICAL CLIMATE THAT WHERE SOCIAL MEDIA PRESSURES CAMPAIGNS TRY TO DRIVE PUBLIC POLICY OR PUSH INSTITUTIONAL DECISIONS, FACTS ARE NOT YET CONFIRMED. OUR SCHOOLS, OUR COUNCIL AND PUBLIC OFFICE BELONG TO THE PEOPLE OF HARFORD COUNTY. NOT THE LOUDEST VOICES ONLINE, NOT THE PRESSURES OF CAMPAIGNS RUN FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, AND NOT TO ANY PRIVATE ORGANIZATION ATTEMPTING TO SHAPE OUR POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE VOTERS WHO LIVE HERE, THE COUNCIL HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE INSTITUTION AND THE TRUST IN ITS RESIDENTS. BECAUSE WHERE I HEAR FROM COMMON SENSE LEADERSHIP IS TO NOT ALLOW SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF YOUR BORDERS TO DICTATE THE WAY YOU RUN YOUR COUNTY, BECAUSE THE FUTURE OF HARFORD COUNTY SHOULD BE DECIDED BY THE PEOPLE OF HARFORD COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. DOCTOR FRED SARKIS, FOLLOWED BY CAROL BRUCE.

GOOD EVENING SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. DOCTOR. FRED SARKIS, 1114 STRZEMPKO DRIVE, FALLSTON, MARYLAND. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TWO ISSUES. THE FIRST. CURRENTLY SPEAKERS NEED TO STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE WE SPEAK. WE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THIS SHOULD CONTINUE. I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE FOR WOMEN TO BE STATING THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE TRAFFICKING. EVERYTHING WE JUST HEARD FROM THE OFFICERS, I THOUGHT, AND ALSO I'VE SEEN THAT OR HEARD THAT SOME WOMEN HAVE BEEN DOXED AFTER THEY'VE PROVIDED THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS. I THOUGHT THE COUNCIL VOTED ON THIS IN THE PAST TO, TO POSSIBLY STOP THAT. EVERYBODY DOES GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN THEY SIGN THE BOOK. I KNOW THE BOARD OF ED PEOPLE JUST SAY THAT EVERYTHING. SO YOUR ADDRESS IS ON FILE. SO IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT, PLEASE. THE SECOND ISSUE WITH ALL THE CAMPAIGNING GOING ON LATELY AND ALL THE FACEBOOK POSTS, EVEN AS LATE AS TODAY, THERE'S BEEN A MENTION OF EMPLOYEES OF HARFORD COUNTY ALSO BEING MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT OCCURS IF THEY'RE VOTING ON ISSUES PERTAINING TO THEIR OTHER PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT. AND IS THE COUNTY COUNCIL PLANNING TO CONSIDER INTRODUCING A BILL TO CLARIFY THE COUNTY CHARTER REGARDING THIS ISSUE OF DUAL EMPLOYMENT? AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERING THESE TWO ITEMS. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. CAROL BRUCE, 525 OAK STREET, ABERDEEN. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL DELAY THE PROCESS FOR FILLING THE VACANCY OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. THE POSITION WAS LAST FILLED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND THE INDIVIDUAL MISSED AT LEAST SIX MEETINGS PRIOR TO THE NOTIFICATION OF HIS RESIGNATION.

DURING THIS TIME, THE BOARD HAS ALSO BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE SEARCH CONSULTANT TO FILL THE VACANCY FOR THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT. THIS INVOLVED ESTABLISHING CRITERIA FOR RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION OF CANDIDATES. IF THE VACANCY IS FILLED, CAN THE COUNCIL. IF THE.

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THANK YOU MA'AM. THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU MA'AM. SO 16 BUSINESS

[16. BUSINESS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ]

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY SUPPORT IN PRACTICE. VERY MUCH SO FOR WHAT YOU SPOKE TO. I THINK IT'S FOR ANYONE. YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE FEEL SAFE SAYING THEIR ADDRESS, BUT THERE'S ALSO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS WHO MIGHT NOT WANT TO STATE THEIR ADDRESS TO THE PUBLIC ON SOMETHING THAT WILL BE TELEVISED. AND I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, WRITING DOWN YOUR ADDRESS AND HAVING IT ON FILE SHOULD SUFFICE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. I HAVEN'T BUILT THE SUPPORT TO INTRODUCE THAT RULE CHANGE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT. NOW TO MY REMARKS. I ATTENDED REVEREND DOCTOR BARRON YOUNG'S LAST SERVICE AT SAINT JAMES AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH BEFORE HIS RETIREMENT. IT WAS REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT VINCENTE, TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT A PROCLAMATION AND CELEBRATE HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I WAS AT THE ABINGDON FIRE COMPANY'S EASTER BREAKFAST, WHICH WAS ALSO A LOT OF FUN. IT WAS FUN FOR ADA TO MEET THE EASTER BUNNY, WHICH WAS VERY SCARY. IT WAS ALSO FUN FOR HER TO SIT ON A FIRE TRUCK, WHICH WAS MUCH LESS SCARY, AND IT WAS GOOD TO BE IN COMMUNITY WITH THE VOLUNTEERS AT ABINGDON FIRE COMPANY. COUNCILWOMAN IMHOFF, COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MYSELF ATTENDED THE ABERDEEN FIRE DEPARTMENT'S AWARDS BANQUET, WHICH WAS A REALLY GREAT EVENT, AND IT WAS REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO BE THERE TO MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO HEAR JUST THE SHEER NUMBER OF HOURS THAT ALL THOSE VOLUNTEERS PUT IN EACH YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REMARKED BY THE POLICE CHIEF OF ABERDEEN JUST HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS REALIZE HOW MANY HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS THESE VOLUNTEERS GIVE EACH YEAR. BECAUSE EVEN FOR HIM WHO RESPONDS TO THE CALLS ALONG WITH THEM, IT'S HARD TO WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND HOW MUCH HOURS THEY GIVE UP, YOU KNOW, UNPAID TO THE COMMUNITY. I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND BEYOND THE BORDER, WHICH WAS A SPECIAL TALK AT HARTFORD COMMUNITY COLLEGE, LOOKING AT HARFORD COUNTY'S CONNECTION WITH THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD.

MISS BRUCE WAS THERE AS WELL, AND IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE. DOCTOR IRIS BARNES WAS THERE,

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SO IT'S NOT PAYING OUT FOR ANY ADDITIONAL VEHICLES AS WELL. AND THEN UPCOMING UP TOMORROW NIGHT, APRIL 8TH IS RAISING HEALTHY KIDS IN A DIGITAL AGE. IT'S GOING TO BE AT BEL AIR HIGH SCHOOL AT 630. AND IT'S GOING TO TRAIN PARENTS ON UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE DOING ON THE INTERNET AND ON TEXTING AND SOCIAL MEDIA. AND THEN WE HAVE.

THE EDGEWOOD'S FARMER'S MARKET FINALLY STARTING BACK UP ON SUNDAY, APRIL 12TH. AND ACCORDING TO 755 THAT WE HAVE, SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE VENDORS THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR. SO THAT'LL BE A REALLY NICE TIME. AND THAT'LL BE AT THE AMERICAN LEGION IN EDGEWOOD.

AND FINALLY, I HAVE THIS NICE VASE OF PINWHEELS. I STARTED THE CASA PROGRAM IN CECIL COUNTY, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH, WHICH IS WHAT APRIL IS. AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SURROUNDING THE COURTHOUSE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN CECIL.

WE STARTED DOING IT THAT WAY, BUT WE EXPANDED THROUGHOUT ALL THE GIVEN TOWNS AND HAD PEOPLE TAKE THEM HOME. SO I'M DISTRIBUTING THEM TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAD PEOPLE TAKE THEM HOME LAST NIGHT AT THE CAB MEETING, AND THIS IS REALLY A VISIBLE SIGN OF PROTECTING CHILDREN AND STRENGTHENING FAMILIES. AND THIS IS THE NATIONAL SYMBOL FOR CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. SO FEEL FREE TO TAKE ONE TONIGHT. AND IF YOU WANT, WE HAVE MORE IN MY OFFICE.

AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ROBERT. MISS IMHOF, GOOD EVENING. I WAS SINCE OUR LAST LEGISLATIVE HEARING, I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AWARDS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND, IT IS A REMARKABLE REMINDER OF THE QUICK RESPONSE AND THE LIFESAVING MEASURES THAT SO MANY OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR PARAMEDICS DO. THEY ACTUALLY GAVE OUT AWARDS AND TOLD STORIES ABOUT QUICK RESPONSES AND LIFE SAVING MEASURES THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO DO FOR DOZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND WHAT WAS EVEN MORE REMARKABLE IS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SAVE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO BE THERE AND PRESENT. WHEN THESE FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS WERE RECEIVING THEIR AWARDS, I WAS ALSO ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN AGRICULTURAL LITERACY EVENT. I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, USE BENEFIT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. APRIL IS CHILDHOOD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. I WAS HONORED TO SUPPORT CASA'S ANNUAL PINWHEEL PLANTING CEREMONY ON APRIL 2ND. THE BLUE PINWHEELS YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY THE CIRCUIT COURT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND ALONG MAIN STREET. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALSO PUT SOME OUT. RECENTLY. I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE OPEN HOUSE AND DEDICATION FOR THE ABINGDON FIRE COMPANY'S NEW BELL CAMP STATION ON APRIL 4TH.

IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED, VERY CEREMONIAL AND A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE TO PUT IN A PLUG. IT'S ONE THING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THESE REMARKABLE FIRE STATIONS. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO BE ABLE TO STAFF THEM. AT THIS TIME. OUR COUNTY HEAVILY RELIES ON VOLUNTEERS, SO FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS THE TIME AND THE BANDWIDTH AND THE INTEREST, I PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOU TO EXPLORE IF VOLUNTEERING AT YOUR LOCAL FIREHOUSE IS IN THE CARDS FOR YOU THIS.

UPCOMING EVENTS. FRIDAY, APRIL 10TH IS OUR ANNUAL HARFORD COUNTY FAMILY AND TRAUMA CONFERENCE, FORMERLY KNOWN AS CHERISH THE CHILD SYMPOSIUM HELD AT MOUNTAIN BRANCH. IT IS A FULL DAY CONFERENCE WHERE WE WILL HAVE TONS OF BREAKOUT SESSIONS FOR SOCIAL WORKERS AND AND CLINICIANS. YOU CAN GET CONTINUING EDUCATION CREDITS. IT IS A GREAT DAY TO BE AROUND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DEDICATED TO PROTECTING THE KIDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. ON APRIL 11TH, THERE ARE A TON OF EVENTS, INCLUDING THE OPENING OF OUR BEL AIR FARMERS MARKET.

THERE'S ALSO AN EVENT CALLED EMPOWERED PLANNING YOUR JOURNEY TO ADULTHOOD, HELD AT BEL AIR HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS FOR TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO HAVE SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES AND ARE GROWING INTO ADULTHOOD. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, ON APRIL THE 11TH, A RUN TO HONOR FIVE K RUN WALK. THIS EVENT HONORS SURVIVING FAMILY MEMBERS OF FALLEN SERVICE MEMBERS AND

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WE HAD THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE HAD 50 YEARS OF SERVICE, SO EVERYBODY WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS. SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS FALLSTON GENERAL. NOW UPPER CHESAPEAKE ALSO DID ADD LITERACY WEEK, RED PUMP AND FOREST LAKES DEFINITELY LEARNED THAT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PRODUCTS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH BEES. AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN THINK A LEATHER SOCCER BALL DOES. BUT IT IT IT DOES.

SO HARFORD COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE AWARDS DID THAT. AND THEN CONGRATULATIONS TO RICH TRUITT DID HIS RETIREMENT THE OTHER DAY. SO WISH HIM BEST OF LUCK IN HIS NEW VENTURE.

BELLA'S FARMER'S MARKET STARTS AGAIN AND ALSO THE SPRING NATIONALS, WHICH ARE SPEEDBOAT RACES AND FLYING POINT PARK. THEY'RE GOING TO BE MAY 16TH AND 17TH. THE BOATS GO ABOUT 160 MILES AN HOUR. THEY'RE STILL LOOKING FOR SOME SPONSORS. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A FRIDAY NIGHT PARTY FOR ALL THE SPONSORS, AND THEN EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE FREE TO GET IN OVER THE WEEKEND FOR ALL THE PARTICIPANTS WILL HAVE MUSIC AND EVERYTHING. SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, LOOK AT THAT. I ALSO, JACOB, I'LL TALK TO YOU TOO ABOUT I'M AGREEING WITH YOU THAT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH PEOPLE BEING DOXXED, THAT MAYBE TIME NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE SAY THEIR ADDRESSES WHEN THEY COME UP, IF THEY. ESPECIALLY IF THEY WRITE THEM OUT DOWN THERE. AND I'M ALSO WORKING ON A BILL TO STRENGTHEN OUR CHARTER AMENDMENT AND SHOULD HAVE THAT NEXT MEETING'S NEXT WEEK'S MEETING. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. NOT NEXT WEEK'S MEETING. NEXT WEEK'S 14TH. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE IT NEXT WEEK. OKAY. MR. RILEY? YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT ALSO ON THE ADDRESS. NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT COUNTRY THEY'RE FROM BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET INPUT, ESPECIALLY ON TELEVISION, FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OUR COUNTY THAT WANT TO INFLUENCE WHAT GOES ON INSIDE OUR COUNTY. TALKING ABOUT INFLUENCE INSIDE OUR COUNTY, THE GENERAL ASYLUM IS AT IT AGAIN. I HAPPEN TO BE THE MAKO REP AND HOUSE BILL 1532.

HOPEFULLY THIS DIES SOMEWHERE ALONG THE PATHWAY AGAIN AS POOR LAND USE PRIORITIES DOWN THERE IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. THEY CALL IT THE SESSION ON ENERGY. THAT'S WHAT THEY THEY NAMED THIS SESSION DOWN THERE. I THINK MY WIFE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THERAPY WHEN SHE GETS BACK NEXT WEEK, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT 90 DAYS, TO DEAL WITH THE 90 DAYS THAT SHE WAS DOWN THERE. CRAZY STUFF COMING OUT OF ANNAPOLIS. BUT THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO KILL THINGS DOWN THERE. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR BOY SCOUT TROOP 265 IN JARRETTSVILLE. THEY CELEBRATED 50 ANNIVERSARIES BY THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU AGAIN, I'M. I'M A BIG BOY GIRL SCOUT LOVER. IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. IT REALLY DOES HELP OUR KIDS. AND SO ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO TO SUPPORT.

WHEN YOU SEE THE YOUNG LADIES OUT THERE WITH THE COOKIES. THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. I PERSONALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR.

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WE WILL HAVE OUR BOOKLETS ON THE 15TH. I'M SURE OUR FIRST WORK SESSION WILL START ON THE 23RD, SO IT DOESN'T GIVE US A WHOLE LOT OF TIME TO PREPARE FOR IT. I HAD THE HONOR TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE WITHIN THE CHOSEN WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH PROGRAM. ALWAYS A GREAT, GREAT PROGRAM. ATTENDED BRIEFLY, THE ABERDEEN VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY BANQUET, THE ABERDEEN ROTARY BULL ROAST, WHICH IS A HUGE SUCCESS WITH OVER 500 IN ATTENDANCE AND THAT MONEY IS USED TO GIVE SCHOLARSHIPS AND OTHER NON PROMOTE OTHER NONPROFITS ACROSS THE COUNTY.

THE ABINGTON VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY RIBBON CUTTING. YES, WE DEPEND HEAVILY ON OUR VOLUNTEERS FOR SURE, BUT THAT HOUSE IS THE FIRST START OF A PART TIME PAID FIRE SERVICE. WE

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